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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sports sports sports, blah blah blah. We got a

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Speaker 3: It's uh, we're almost down to the nitty gritty in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. The NBA has had its Christmas Day start

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Speaker 3: to the season. If you will, College football is gonna

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Speaker 3: get real good again, real soon. And we have three

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Speaker 3: hours for that. Forget all that for a second. Man,

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Speaker 3: how was the holiday? Happy?

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Speaker 2: Pre New Year?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: How we doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Man, You get you get to you and yours and

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Speaker 3: everything you needed this week.

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Speaker 5: Look, man, I'm happy to be with my family and

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Speaker 5: everything else.

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Speaker 4: Everything was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm the cheesiest dead you ever met. My daughter and

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Speaker 3: I are driving around today going to the grocery store,

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Speaker 3: because that's what you do when someone eats all of

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Speaker 3: the food and you've got to go get more after

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Speaker 3: the holidays, so you go to the grocery store. And

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Speaker 3: she said, okay, Dad, what was your favorite gift? And obviously,

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Speaker 3: like you get to a certain age where the kids are,

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Speaker 3: they're lapping you by about you know, for every one

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Speaker 3: of your gifts, it's about six of theirs. So I

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Speaker 3: only got a couple to choose from, and that's fine.

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Speaker 3: But I looked at her and I said, my favorite

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Speaker 3: gift was that I'm lucky enough to have time off

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Speaker 3: to be with you all this week.

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Speaker 5: Right, great, dad, stuff essy as hell? That's all right,

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Speaker 5: that's all right, but it's true.

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Speaker 2: But it's true.

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Speaker 5: That's what happens once you evolve and once you are

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Speaker 5: responsible for keeping other people alive. Yep, then that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: You're aligned different, right.

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Speaker 2: And it's not anything, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Plus I didn't get anything, so yeah, we don't get anything.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, nobody bought me anything.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you that my wife got me something phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: And it's not about I can buy anything I want

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Speaker 5: for myself.

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Speaker 4: Yes you can, within reason.

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Speaker 5: What she did was my first ever uh like, a

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Speaker 5: picture of me sitting on set from behind on my

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Speaker 5: first episode of television that I was producing. She she

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Speaker 5: took that picture, that silhouette of that picture, and then

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Speaker 5: filled in the picture of me with all the words

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Speaker 5: that I wrote in my first episode of TV.

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Speaker 4: Ever, damn broke me down to my break paths.

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Speaker 3: Man, I was gonna say, that's thoughtful that's like turned

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Speaker 3: all the way up, thoughtful.

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Speaker 5: Broke me down to my break paths, and that's that's

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Speaker 5: who I'm married.

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Speaker 3: Good, good on you, good on you.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. This is night hold. Tonight is the It's night.

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Speaker 3: The twenty ninth, okay, fifth night of Hanukkah. I think

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Speaker 3: I have that right, twenty five three six, Yeah, I think, I.

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Speaker 2: Think I think the first.

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Speaker 5: This is night five, this is night five, the third

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Speaker 5: night of Kwanza.

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Speaker 2: At third night of Kwanta and whatever.

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Speaker 3: Else you're celebrating, even if it's just your people, happy, whatever,

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Speaker 3: And the next time we talk to you, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five will be here. So ring it in and hope

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Speaker 3: it's a lucky one and a beautiful one and a

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Speaker 3: way tire buying should be. I'm so glad you just

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Speaker 3: said what you said about your wife, because I'd like

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Speaker 3: to ask you this, When did you know.

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Speaker 5: She was the one? How long after you met or

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Speaker 5: did you know the next morning was it for real?

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Speaker 5: I went back home and I told, like my little brother,

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Speaker 5: one of my closest friends, Yo, I think I met

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Speaker 5: Wifey the next day. That next day, well technically the

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Speaker 5: same day, because yeah, it was. I mean I met

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Speaker 5: June twenty fourth, and I say goodbye to her when

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Speaker 4: Fifth, six thirty am, so.

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Speaker 5: Six in the morning, and it was like, okay, but

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Speaker 5: I started playing in our engagement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Well I love that because the analogy goes

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Speaker 3: to the quarterbacks we were about to watch, and this

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Speaker 3: and it might be fun to play a little game

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Speaker 3: with the quarterbacks of when did you know or do

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Speaker 3: we know?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I like that game, okay, because Michael Pennix we've watched

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Speaker 3: play one game, and we're about to watch him go

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Speaker 3: against the number two pick in the draft, Jade and Daniels,

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Speaker 3: who have all these first round quarterbacks is definitely the

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Speaker 3: one we're ready to tell mom and dad about the

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Speaker 3: most for sure. Caleb Williams, bow Knicks. Let's put JJ

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Speaker 3: McCarthy aside. That's not fair. But what's the right with

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Speaker 3: Drake May thank you forgotten him and and he's intriguing.

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Speaker 3: What I would say that's nice about this particular class

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Speaker 3: think you can write any of them off.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, not yet, No, you know,

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Speaker 5: because they've all shown bits of promise, and you know,

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Speaker 5: for Michael Pennix, we have a very small sample size,

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Speaker 5: but it was a pretty good taste. It was, it

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Speaker 5: was a pretty pretty good sample of what's to come.

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Speaker 5: And Atlanta has, you know, put a lot on his

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Speaker 5: shoulders Vya for a playoff spot coming down, coming down

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Speaker 5: the stretch, and you know, you scratched your head, is like,

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Speaker 5: could this have been a different scenario?

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Speaker 4: Could they have locked the playoffs up having.

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Speaker 5: Him start earlier? But that's neither here nor there. We're

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Speaker 5: in the now and so moving forward. All eyes of

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Speaker 5: course are on the alam. This is a big game tonight,

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Speaker 5: so I'm excited for it. I love when rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: It adds a little bit of edge because everyone in

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Michael Pennix wants to, you know, show

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Speaker 5: the world he should have been the first pick in

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Speaker 5: both of them should feel great about the situations they're

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Speaker 5: in because Caleb, on the other hand, has lost an

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and a head coach, So who wants to be

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that team because I have and I've

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Speaker 3: been watching a lot of football for a long time

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Speaker 3: now from not maybe not as much as you, but

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Speaker 3: don't know that I've ever seen a team willfully attempt

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Speaker 3: But I want to sit that aside because I'd like

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Speaker 3: to actually talk to you about it for a minute.

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Speaker 3: But back to Pennix, Daniels, bow Knicks, Drake May, Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Is there such a thing with an NFL.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback like there was with your wife, which is I

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Speaker 3: saw him once and I know.

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Speaker 2: Does that exist?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because Jaden to me feels a little bit like that.

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Speaker 3: It feels a little bit like that, Like I remember

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Speaker 3: lot into preseason in terms of the results. What caught me,

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Speaker 3: Like I watched his feet, and the second I saw

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's the one man. That's the guy.

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Speaker 5: We saw it with Russell Wilson, we saw it with

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Speaker 5: who've gone on to be successful. It's something to be

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Speaker 5: is timing. Can a defense speed you up? Now, it's

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Speaker 5: hard to speed up a rookie quarterback in preseason because

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Speaker 5: they're very vanilla defenses. No one is showing anything, which

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: I mean like I get all that, and and and

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Speaker 3: from the standpoint of Michael Pennix, what a perfect situation.

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Speaker 3: You know, I remember talking to you last week. We

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Speaker 3: loved what we saw at first sight. There was a butt,

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Speaker 3: it was a big butt, it was a hold on.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't actually played a real NFL team. He played

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Speaker 3: Giants in a.

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Speaker 2: Weather controlled situation.

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Speaker 3: How wonderful for us, the NFL fans who are interested

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Speaker 3: in this kind of thing, to now immediately game two, Michael,

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Speaker 3: Now you're on the road on the East coast, post

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Speaker 3: December playoff implications all over the place on both sides

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Speaker 2: Tonight's the night, man, Tonight's the night.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying his career is made or broken

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Speaker 3: tonight by any stretch, but this is cool what's about

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Speaker 3: to happen, because this is the night where Panix actually

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Speaker 3: we get to see what he is and he's not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's on a stage right, all eyes

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Speaker 5: on him, only game on, and we want to know.

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Speaker 5: We want to know if last week, playing against the

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Speaker 5: hapless Giants who for whatever reason became not so happless

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Speaker 5: this week would get into that later man misreading of

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Speaker 5: the tea leaves, but it's it's can can he handle

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Speaker 5: the pressures of a must win only in his second start?

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Speaker 5: That's what I want to see.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, Well, and we're about to find out. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to get into that. And while we're watching

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Speaker 3: that get started, we should talk a little bit more

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Speaker 3: about Caleb William because it's been one of the more

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Speaker 3: fascinating starts to an NFL career.

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Speaker 2: And I am trying on.

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Speaker 3: A weekend and week out basis to figure out what's

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Speaker 3: And from someone who's been in huddles with two minutes

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Speaker 2: You finna get loose, now, that's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 3: We're in the tyreq dot com studios. I want to

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Speaker 4: Of course?

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Speaker 2: Are you watching this? Did you watch the Seahawks play

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a good night for it. Right, it's December

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 3: When there is a minute fifteen to go in the game,

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Speaker 3: Now, it's a miracle that they even still had the

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Speaker 5: NFL is far too complicated for that. Babies must crawl

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Speaker 5: The offense, they have weapons, they have a dynamic running back,

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Speaker 5: that's a problem. That's a problem because it puts pressure

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Speaker 5: And you don't gain any you don't gain any of

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Speaker 3: I hear you, man, I like and you start to

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Speaker 2: But like, all in all, what is going on.

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Speaker 3: Culturally from the inside out that they always seem to

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Speaker 3: This group just literally looks like they've got no clue

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Speaker 3: When it's like I'm not even I'm not even trying

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Speaker 3: that's not it, that's not what you do.

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Speaker 2: And it keeps happening. It's fascinating, it's odd.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's but it starts up top, man, it starts

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Speaker 5: So all of the rookies coming in situations where they're

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Speaker 6: Good evening gentlemen, wondered where that what's going as usual?

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Speaker 4: We'll get to this.

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Speaker 6: the line for Washington They can clinch a playoff berth

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Speaker 6: We'll get to that in a moment. Minnesota won its

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Speaker 6: bushing this year. He had thirty one carries for one

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Speaker 6: hundred and sixty seven yards in this game. He's up

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Speaker 6: at two thousand and five rushing yards this season to

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Speaker 6: be exact. So he's the ninth player in the history

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Speaker 6: of the NFL with a two thousand yard rushing season,

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Speaker 6: first since Derrick Henry in twenty twenty. And as we

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Speaker 6: look toward postseason, and yes, next weekend is the final

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Speaker 6: weekend of the regular season, we don't have any start

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Speaker 6: time yet for any game. Everything is subject to effect scheduling,

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Speaker 6: depending of course, on how things work out which games

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Speaker 6: are more important. We do know there's one AFC playoff

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Speaker 6: spot left because The Chargers already clinched a spot with

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Speaker 6: an easy win yesterday, the Broncos failed to clinch, losing

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Speaker 6: in overtime at Cincinnati. That keeps the Bengals alive. The Dolphins,

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Speaker 6: with a win, are eight and eight. They're still alive.

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Speaker 6: So between the Broncos, Dolphins, and Bengals, one of those

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Speaker 6: three is going to get the last AFC playoff spot.

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Speaker 6: The Broncos are in the best spot because they have

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Speaker 6: the best record nine and seven compared to the other

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Speaker 6: two that are eight and eight. So Broncos win and

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Speaker 6: you're in, or even a Cincinnati loss, they'd be in.

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Speaker 6: For the Dolphins, they need a win and a Denver loss.

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Speaker 6: Bengals not doing quite as well in the scenarios for starters.

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Speaker 6: They're currently losing. A tiebreaker had to head with Miami

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Speaker 6: as they have the same record, but Miami has a

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Speaker 6: slightly better conference mark, so the Bengals would need a

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Speaker 6: win against Pittsburgh and the other two to lose. In

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Speaker 6: the NBA, at Boston tonight, Pacers beat the Celtics one

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Speaker 6: twenty three to one fourteen. There was a trade in

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Speaker 6: the NBA, as the Lakers dealt di'angelo Russell to the nets.

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Speaker 6: Among the nine NHL games. Tonight's well, we've got a

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Speaker 6: win for the Red Wings over the Caps four to two,

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Speaker 6: and Montreal won five to two at Tampa Bay. And

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Speaker 6: a reminder, guys, the Hall of Fame finalist list came

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Speaker 6: out this weekend for the NFL. That is, the Pro

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Speaker 6: Football Hall of Fame in candidate includes Eli Manning. Of

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Speaker 6: the fifteen announced yesterday, nine were also finalists a year ago.

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Speaker 6: Luke Keikley is up for the haul this year. The

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Speaker 6: list of finalists also includes Antonio Gates, Tory Holt, Steve Smith,

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Speaker 6: Reggie Wayne, Fred Taylor's on the list, Adam Vinatieri and

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Speaker 6: others as well. The Hall Selection Committee will meet the

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Speaker 6: week of the Super Bowl, will find out the class

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Speaker 6: of twenty twenty five on February sixth at the NFL

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Speaker 6: HONORSPEC To you.

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Speaker 3: Great stepf Steve as always, and good evening and happy

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Speaker 3: holidays and happy New Year to you as well as

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Speaker 3: Steve's going through all of that. E from that AFC

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Speaker 3: playoff scenario, there's one other thing to add, and that

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Speaker 3: is not only do the Broncos simply need to win,

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Speaker 3: they only need to beat the Chiefs backups, which was

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Speaker 3: announced today that the Chiefs in that game, despite the

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Speaker 3: fact that it is the lynchpin for what is left

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Speaker 3: in the AFC, will not be playing their starters. I

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Speaker 3: get it, I agree with it, but I also want

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Speaker 3: to know sort of how how do teams sort of

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Speaker 3: reason with that around the league. The Chiefs have plenty

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Speaker 3: to protect, obviously, and they've got the one seed, and

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Speaker 3: so I'm not suggesting that they go bang their head

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Speaker 3: against the wall on behalf of the Cincinnati Bengals by

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Speaker 3: any stretch.

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Speaker 2: But I do wonder.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder how that sits with the league when

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Speaker 3: Denver like that game sets up everything else, and presumably

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Speaker 3: it'll be Carson Wentz and a bunch of I don't

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Speaker 3: know who's playing in that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can tell you this, the Chiefs don't

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Speaker 5: care what the league feels about it. Are in your

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Speaker 5: team because they got their work done. You get your

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Speaker 5: work done early, you get to do what you want

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Speaker 5: to do. That's the bottom line. And they got their

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Speaker 5: work done early. They did everything they needed to do,

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Speaker 5: and so now they're in a situation where you can

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Speaker 5: rest Jones on defense, you can rest Patrick and Kelsey

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Speaker 5: and anyone and Poteco, and you can rest these guys

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Speaker 5: that have given you everything all year to put you

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Speaker 5: in this position and get them healthier. Right, imagine what

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Speaker 5: a two week rested Kansas City Chief their starters will be, like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that is that's an amazing feat And there

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Speaker 5: is no rust. They played too much football this year

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Speaker 5: for it to even be considered rust right now. And

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Speaker 5: so just them having that break, not having to to

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Speaker 5: you know, the mental the mental fatigue at this point

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Speaker 5: in the year is something that is unbelievable. And and

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Speaker 5: the fact that they're not having to deal with that's

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Speaker 5: that's what you want. And so the league can they

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Speaker 5: can feel however they want to feel.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I would do the same. I do

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Speaker 3: have a thought though, that is at least worth considering.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying you don't like maybe pull them early,

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Speaker 3: but when you're the one seed under this new format,

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Speaker 3: it means you automatically don't play Week one in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So if you don't play Week eighteen either, that is

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Speaker 2: a hell of a break.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine ers did the exact same thing last year,

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Speaker 3: and they went to the Super Bowl. I'll also say,

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Speaker 3: though they didn't look very good in the playoffs. They

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Speaker 3: had to rally to beat the Packers, They had to really,

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Speaker 3: really really rally.

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Speaker 2: To beat the Lions.

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Speaker 3: They looked a little shell shocked and never really quite

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Speaker 3: got their swag back. Just to thought, do you play

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Speaker 3: a half so you go get a little sweat going.

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Speaker 5: Nope, you can go to get a sweat on an elliptical.

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Speaker 5: You get your peloton. Shout out to Peloton and get

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Speaker 5: everybody pelotons for the holidays, and they can ride together

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Speaker 5: in the class.

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Speaker 4: You know, all.

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Speaker 5: All the starters. They can have Peloton days. Right Because

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Speaker 5: the one thing I believe, and they've proven it. We

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Speaker 5: don't have to worry about Kansas City. We don't have

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Speaker 5: to worry about their motivation. We don't have to worry

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Speaker 5: about They were in the perfect position to be tired.

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Speaker 5: They've gone to the Super Bowl almost every year.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: They've played more football.

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Speaker 5: Than any other team in the league the last five years,

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Speaker 5: including San Francisco, and they're winning. We just watched them stumble,

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Speaker 5: bumble and fumble all the way to fifteen and one.

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Speaker 5: They won every possible conceivable way you can win.

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Speaker 4: They've earned it.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Chris Jones is gonna be rusty after

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Speaker 5: two weeks of playing of rest?

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Patrick Mahomes is going to be rusty?

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Speaker 2: Probably?

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelce, probably not.

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Speaker 2: But while we're talking about what we think, you think.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna win. I can't bet against him at all.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 5: Anybody saying anything other has not been paying attention and

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Speaker 5: good luck out there and in Vegas, good l fair enough.

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Speaker 3: I still think that no matter all the data and

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Speaker 3: the blocked kicks and the penalties and this that and

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Speaker 3: the other, the Ravens and Bills look more dynamic and

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Speaker 3: better to me, they.

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Speaker 4: Just don't until they don't, until they don't until I.

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Speaker 3: Know we've been through this rodeo before, and it will

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Speaker 3: be in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: So I get it. I get it.

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Speaker 5: Proof is in the pudding, man, what you you you

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Speaker 5: gotta look at? Look man like I always equate football

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Speaker 5: or sports to relationships. Right now, You in a relationship

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Speaker 5: and everything goes good, and then a certain point it

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Speaker 5: just turns left, and then you go to counseling and

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Speaker 5: be like, I'm gonna do better, and then happens again,

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Speaker 5: and then you go to counseling and I'm gonna do better,

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Speaker 5: and then it happens again. Right, We're still waiting for

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, who I believe is the MVP this year.

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Speaker 5: We're still waiting for him to it. It was such

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Speaker 5: a big deal going into the playoffs last year, facing

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs in the playoff. This is Lamar's moment. He

590
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Speaker 5: can snatch back all that negative, the negative connotations about

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00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: him in big games. In the playoffs, he can snatch

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Speaker 5: it away. And we watched him fumble it away then

593
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Speaker 5: wouldn't leave the pocket for whatever reason, didn't use his legs,

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Speaker 5: all of these things. And so to sit here now

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Speaker 5: and be like, oh, Lamar, you gotta show me something,

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Speaker 5: Kansas City has shown me something every single year, and

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Speaker 5: so I don't care what Josh Allen is looking like.

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Speaker 5: When they can't beat Kansas City in the playoffs, they can't.

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Speaker 5: They can beat him in the regular season. We've seen that.

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Speaker 5: We've read that book. But when you get to the

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Speaker 5: playoff portion of the book, what happens one guy on

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Speaker 5: one guy has beaten him in the last lost in

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Speaker 5: the last four years, did that one guy? They're not

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Speaker 5: going to make the playoffs, and that's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to look at some of the things

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen has done in those games and say he

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Speaker 3: can't beat Patrick when he no, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you lose.

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Speaker 3: One hundred to ninety seven, I'm not going to be

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Speaker 3: like Josh is a choker.

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Speaker 5: It's not about Josh. It's not about Josh. It's about

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I hear you. I hear you.

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Speaker 5: Had thirteen seconds to win. The thirteen seconds Buffalo went

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Speaker 5: up and they had thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Seconds, yep, and the Chiefs did it yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's crazy. That's crazy talk.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, let in fact, let's let's continue this crazy

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Speaker 3: talk because I think it's an interesting conversation. Coming up

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Speaker 3: next with e from salam Mark Willard. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Tell me You're young without telling me that you're young.

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Speaker 3: Jade Daniels just went down on a hit that if

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Speaker 3: it happened to you or me. Ephraim, oh my God,

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Speaker 3: they would just order the wheelchair right now and be like,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry about the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And Jenden hopped up and went, all right, third down,

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Speaker 3: Hold on the dude, did your heart skip a beat too?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Oh god?

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Speaker 7: Uh horrible man, it looks horrible and quite frankly, there's

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Speaker 7: something about that uniform, because you know the thighsman's and

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Speaker 7: the Alex Smiths and like that uniform.

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Speaker 3: I got all kinds of PTSDSD oh God.

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Speaker 2: And Jade's just like, yeah, sorry, it's third down.

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Speaker 4: It's cool.

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Speaker 3: Just walked off the field. Go ahead, all right, seven seven,

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you up to date. Steve's going to be

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Speaker 3: along here in ten minutes with all of them.

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Speaker 5: Details Normally, right now, I'm in my cozy confounds of

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Speaker 5: my studio in Los Angeles and Sherman Oaks, but yep,

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Speaker 5: I'm up here in Sacramento, my home away from home

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Speaker 5: where I went to high school and.

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Speaker 4: Was a budd In superstar. Not to toot my own one, but.

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Speaker 5: Our kids are my son's you know, aau and they

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Speaker 5: had a big tournament up here and him and my

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Speaker 5: nephew played for Paul George Elite, the AAU team, and

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Speaker 5: we're at the game today and I want to send

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Speaker 5: a shout out to Jim Smart, who was my high

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Speaker 5: school basketball coach, who came out and watched our sons

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Speaker 5: play Man and it was like it was so crazy

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Speaker 5: because number one gym coach is still angry at my

658
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: parents because I graduated high school at sixteen, and he

659
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: was furious with them because he could have had two

660
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: more years with me, and he is more than sure

661
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Speaker 5: that we would have won state both or at least

662
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: one of those years when I was in high school,

663
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: but I was off in college. So it's funny because

664
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 5: him and our head football coach used to go at it,

665
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: like literally go at it about me. I spent a

666
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 5: lot of my time trying to get better in basketball,

667
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: and football was really sort of a natural thing for me,

668
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: and so there was always arguments about who whose player

669
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: I was. And I was recruited heavily by basketball for

670
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 5: a colleges for basketball and football. And so I want

671
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: to send a shout out to not only Florin High

672
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Speaker 5: whoop woop Panthers in the building, but Jim Smirker, my guy.

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Speaker 3: I love it by the way, you still could be

674
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Speaker 3: the two sports star that you've always wanted to be.

675
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: You still can. I've watched the.

676
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: NBA, and my man, you just need to stand there.

677
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: You know.

678
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: I don't need you to be a star, just to

679
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: be someone's fifth option.

680
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Speaker 2: And all you got to do is just stand there. Man,

681
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: Just stand there.

682
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Speaker 3: Yeah, ball come to you every three possessions. Maybe you

683
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: shoot it.

684
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 5: Maybe if they throw it to me in the post,

685
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get a bucket.

686
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you to go inside the three point arc

687
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: if you want. I just want you to know you

688
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 3: don't have to. You don't have to go in there.

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00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm getting a bucket. You throw it down there. I'm

690
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: getting a bucket jump hook.

691
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Speaker 3: You can play the same way I used to play

692
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: in the Tuesday Night Men's Leagues. Man, I treated that

693
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: three point line like a brick wall. I'm not going

694
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: past that. All that happens in there are torn this

695
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: and pull that. I don't I'm gonna stay right here,

696
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 3: and when it's my turn, I'm gonna pull the trigger.

697
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: So keeps in the prize. Man, you can do it.

698
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: You can do it. My lower back says something else.

699
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: My lower back says Hey, before you get up out

700
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Speaker 5: of the bed, you need to do a series of

701
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: these things.

702
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Got full checklist, so you can, so you can stand up.

703
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: Just a series of these things before we get off into.

704
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: The day, before we're going anywhere. Yeah, yeah, no, that's

705
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Speaker 2: that's the end of my life.

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Speaker 3: Washington is in with a win, the game tied seven

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Speaker 3: to seven as they start the second quarter. By the way,

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Speaker 3: and Atlanta keeps pace at the top of the NFC

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Speaker 3: win away from clinching the division themselves. So a lot

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Speaker 3: on the line for these two young bucks. And it's

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Speaker 3: already been an entertaining first quarter moving up and down

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Speaker 3: We will keep you up to date. Let's move on

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Speaker 3: from old from the young guys and talk about an

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Speaker 3: old one.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do you do about Aaron Rodgers?

730
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: And I mean that if you're the Jets or anyone

731
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 3: else he says he wants to play, is anyone interested.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be a suitor somewhere down.

733
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Speaker 2: Who could it be? Who should it be?

734
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Speaker 5: I may be a Tennessee Are someone in the market

735
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: like that at Tennessee, Indianapolis if they don't get a

736
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins or something like that, someone to, you know,

737
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 5: to try to do what the Jets did in terms

738
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Speaker 5: of infuse some passion in the fan base and stuff

739
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: like that. And you will say, no matter what the

740
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 5: outcome has been the last two years, the Jets fan

741
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: base has been impassioned in the thought of going.

742
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Speaker 4: They weren't saying.

743
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: Playoffs, they were saying super Bowl or bus after not

744
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 5: being in the playoffs for a couple of decades, So

745
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: they were going all the way to the super Bowl

746
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Speaker 5: because of Aaron Rodgers.

747
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

748
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Speaker 5: And so I think there's other fan bases or other

749
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: teams that are in between, maybe not have the right

750
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: draft pick to get somebody. This is a very light

751
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 5: quarterback draft as it stands. So you know, I can

752
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 5: see him in Tennessee. I can see him in NDI

753
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 5: with Jonathan Taylor and Pittman. I think there will be

754
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: a market, not a big market, not an expensive market,

755
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 5: but I think if he wants to play, there'll be

756
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: a place for him to play.

757
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: You want to know what's fascinating about about the Aaron

758
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers situation. It might be less about who wants him

759
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: and more about whether or not he could accept the

760
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: role that I think should be available to him.

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Speaker 2: Aaron.

762
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Speaker 3: I think I'm not stepping out of bounds here from

763
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: is about control, think Aaron. Aaron feels to me, I've

764
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: never met the man, feels to me like a little

765
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: bit of.

766
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: A control freak, A little bit.

767
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 3: A little bit when you look at at the way

768
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: things ended in Green Bay, when you look at even

769
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Speaker 3: the Okay, you go to the Jets and and and

770
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Speaker 3: what do we have through the middle of the sea.

771
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Speaker 3: And we have a coach losing a job, who's a

772
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: good coach by the way, we have a GM losing

773
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Speaker 3: a job, We have the acquisition of what feels like

774
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: a personal wide receiver, and more on that in just

775
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: a second. But all of those things happen and it

776
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: leads to a big, fat, like nothing burger, really really

777
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: in your face kind of of an idea that this

778
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: is not it and you should not be handing these

779
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: kinds of reins over to that guy. So now, wherever

780
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Speaker 3: this next place is, Ephraim, it's got to be a

781
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: place that's like, we'd like for you to come be

782
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Speaker 3: our quarterback very short term.

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Speaker 2: We'd like you to probably help someone else become the

784
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: next quarterback. And by the way, you're calling no shots.

785
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Speaker 3: None is Aaron ready to do that?

786
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: That's my question.

787
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 5: I would say he's not ready to do that. But

788
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: what what happens is you get humbled when you're like that.

789
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: We see it in all sports. We see it in

790
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 5: the NBA, we see it in football when great Hall

791
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: of Fame players have to assume a different role, are

792
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: different than what they're used to. Then there's pushback because

793
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: in their minds there's still those players. They're the last

794
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: to see. They're the last ones to see because mentally

795
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: you're you're there, you can do the same things. But

796
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 5: even with the great Peyton Manning his second year in Denver, right,

797
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 5: it's arm turned off in the middle of the season.

798
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: He was binged and came back and won the Super Bowl.

799
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: We saw with Tom Brady when he took time off

800
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Speaker 5: during training camp. I knew this was the end because

801
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: he had been so locked in his entire year, meaning

802
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 5: sacrificing everything outside of football for so many years. To

803
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: now try to dip your toe into that pool and

804
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 5: stay in the one you've been swimming in for twenty years,

805
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: it's impossible. You can't because you don't know how to

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00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 5: do it. You don't know how to do it. And

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00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: that was a situation we saw. So there are different

808
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: things that show you the end is there. Aaron Rodgers

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00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 5: going to Egypt doing mini camp. Yep, that seems crazy. Well,

810
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 5: I had the trip planned already. Yeah, you're a football player.

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Speaker 5: You play football, you're the quarterback of the team, and

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00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: you're in Egypt during Mini camp, right, So there's little

813
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: signs of guys, you know, drifting away from the level

814
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 5: of effort that they've put into becoming great. And whenever

815
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: you have someone drifting away from that, then you start

816
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 5: seeing the end. The end is there. It's there. And

817
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 5: I really think that's what we got a privy to

818
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 5: coming into this season with Aaron Rodgers and Robert Salo

819
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 5: was like, hey, there's many camp he wanted to go

820
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: wherever he wanted wanted to go, right and and and

821
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: he made sure he let us know it's not excused.

822
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 5: And so that was that was the writing on the

823
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: wall for us. Everybody was excited to see him come

824
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: back from the Achilles injury, and then you start hearing

825
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: different rumblings and you know he's rubbing people the wrong way,

826
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: and and he won't ever have a situation where he's

827
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 5: in complete control and hiring people and bringing people in.

828
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: That's that those days are gone. That experiment did not

829
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 5: work in New York and no one is going to

830
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 5: repeat that.

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Speaker 2: Hmm. I like, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: It seems hard for me to believe that Aaron is

833
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: ready to do what the league is going to need

834
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: him to do and and my god is as much

835
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 3: as we watch football games. We were just talking about

836
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: the Bears last hour, and you you turn on the

837
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: TV and you see things where you're just like, do

838
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: you guys understand football? Like what are you doing? We

839
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: see stuff like that all the time. Yet, if there's

840
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: no way the league makes this mistake again, right, there's

841
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: not a football team that will do for Aaron what

842
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: the Jets just did.

843
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: No right, no, no one.

844
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Right.

845
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: That's how you get right. But you get fired.

846
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: And they all just got fired. So I would argue

847
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: if someone does it again, they should be fired. Yeah,

848
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: And so no one's gonna do that. No one should

849
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: do that. Aaron's gonna have to be a completely different dude.

850
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: Like this next team does not want to see you

851
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: with that look on your face on Pat McAfee every Tuesday,

852
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: that look on your face of I know everything and

853
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: everybody else doesn't. Nobody wants to see that anymore. You

854
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: can't do that anymore. You can't do that and then

855
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: go win four games.

856
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: No, you can't do that.

857
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: You can't do that, and then go get shut out

858
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: in Buffalo. I don't care that they scored fourteen points.

859
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: It was all after Aaron left. By the way, you

860
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: can't spend all week having Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams'

861
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: daydream about his five hundredth touchdown path before the game

862
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: has even started, as if it's just your birthright that

863
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: when you show up, you're gonna get a TV pass

864
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: and you get to pick who you throw it to.

865
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: Like if I'm the Bills, I'm like, who the hell do.

866
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: These two people think they are? Like you got.

867
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Speaker 4: Focusing man, Like I just.

868
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Speaker 3: At a certain point, ownership in the front office with

869
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: the Jets has got to have some self respect and

870
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: you have to be like, what on earth who are

871
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: we letting run this show? So I don't think someone

872
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: makes that mistake again. And I would love to be

873
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: surprised to see that Aaron Rodgers is ready to take

874
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: a humbled role.

875
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: Just think about this, Just listen to this. Aaron Rodgers,

876
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: the Great Aaron Rodgers was twelve for eight f one

877
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 5: hundred and twelve yards and two interceptions M.

878
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: Zero points, zero points.

879
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, one of his interceptions came in

880
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: the red zone when he was targeting DeVante Adams. Because

881
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: I'd argue, if I'm in a Bill's Jersey. I'm like,

882
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: ge wonder who Aaron's going to try to throw the

883
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 3: ball to since they spent all week telling us that

884
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: you're right. Duh Oh, the whole thing, The whole thing

885
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: is a trip, man, It's a total trip.

886
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 4: The way this all played out this year. Yeah, it's.

887
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: It was one of those things you couldn't look away from.

888
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: But then you had to look away because you were

889
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 5: making yourself sad. And it's sad it is, I mean,

890
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 5: and a lot of this he's brought on himself, coming

891
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: off an injury that severe at his age, after not

892
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 5: playing will prior to the injury, In what world was

893
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: this about to be the rebirth?

894
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: Not?

895
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: Just nope, nope, not at all.

896
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: That's a question for the multiverse. Uh.

897
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: Speaking of an alternate reality, the New York Giants now

898
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: have one, and so does Dion Sanders' son, and we

899
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: should talk about it and we will coming up next.

900
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: That's it from Salama, Mark Wellard and Fox Sports Radio.

901
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: Falcon SEGA fourteen to seven.

902
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 5: Lead.

903
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: Do you have Bjon Robinson on your championship Fantasy squad?

904
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: I hope that for you. We're Livingthtireck dot Com Studios

905
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: with me from salam Mark Wellerd, Happy new You're happy

906
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: everything from all of us here at Fox Sports Radio.

907
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: Happy New Year to the New England Patriots, Tennessee Titans,

908
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 3: and Cleveland Browns. Courtesy the New York Giants. Oh now,

909
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: it's funny. We all roll our eyes. It's not like

910
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: we're asking the players to go out there and lay down.

911
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: But the New York Giants won a very, very damaging

912
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: football game today. And I bet if you're like me,

913
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 3: you would look at the standings and be like, well,

914
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how it works with all of these

915
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: three win teams. Well, allow us to tell you head

916
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: to head matchups and all those normal tiebreakers that you're

917
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: used to in playoff football don't matter when it comes

918
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: to the draft. What matters is the strength of the

919
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: schedule that you played. And the New York Giants play

920
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: in a division that's got at least two maybe two

921
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: and a half if you're feeling good, really good teams

922
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: in it, and so your strength of schedule is going

923
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: to be very strong. So when you look at the

924
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Patriots at three and thirteen, the Browns at three and thirteen,

925
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans at three and thirteen, all of those

926
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: teams have quote easier schedules than the New York Giants.

927
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: So as of today, you fell from one to four,

928
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: and maybe more importantly, you fell behind two other quarterback

929
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: needy teams.

930
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: So let me start with this, because I got all

931
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: kinds of questions. What would you have done differently if

932
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: you were the New York Giants?

933
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: If anything, I would have rested my guys like neighbors,

934
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 5: league neighbors who had a day day, who went crazy

935
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 5: today he can play, Oh he's got it, but we

936
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 5: can play. I don't know if he was trying to

937
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 5: get it. Thou well, does he have a thousand yards?

938
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: I think he did go over a thousand Let me

939
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 3: let me let me take a little look at that

940
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: while while you're chatting it up.

941
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 5: Maybe that, maybe that's why, And I get that. I

942
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 5: understand that. But you can't, with a team in so

943
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 5: much turmoil, with so much dysfunction and so many bad

944
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 5: decisions the world has seen play out in real time,

945
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 5: you can't allow yourself to be in a position to

946
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 5: give away the first pick in the draft, because that's

947
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 5: how valuable it is to your franchise.

948
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: I answer your question real quick, He's now at eleven

949
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: forty and he had one hundred and seventy one today,

950
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: so yes, he needed about thirty yards.

951
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: After thirty yards and sit over here with me. Ham string,

952
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 5: ham string? What's his name? What's the Italian? The pizza guy?

953
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 5: Tommy DeVito, Tommy DeVito.

954
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: You're up.

955
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he's healthy, but yeah.

956
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 5: Whatever that is, whoever the fourth quarterback is, You're up.

957
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: That's what I would have done.

958
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: And so does the league have anything to say about

959
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: that when it gets well?

960
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 5: No, that you that's why you got to start peppering

961
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 5: the uh the the.

962
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 4: Injury report early in the week.

963
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: Oh got a soft tissue injury, in practice. It's all

964
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 5: part of it. It's all part of it, man.

965
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean this is you're not wrong.

966
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: This is huge business, huge business. Do you understand, Like,

967
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: let's look at this through the eyes of Shador.

968
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: What happened today?

969
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 5: Man?

970
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: He like Tennessee what Tennessee?

971
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: Tennessee? I mean Cleveland?

972
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 5: I don't even he definitely not going to Cleveland. I'm

973
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 5: not going to let that happen.

974
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 3: I don't well, I don't know what Cleveland even has

975
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 3: the power to do.

976
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Because of the Watson contract.

977
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 5: They would take him if they have the first pick

978
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 5: in the draft. They're drafting him if he the quarterback,

979
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 5: that's what they're going to Well like the quarterback, the

980
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: restructure the deal.

981
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: They I understand that, and this is only a rookie deal,

982
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: so you'd be able to fit it anyway. But the

983
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: bottom line is this, as things currently stand, it's the

984
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: Patriots who will end up with the first pick in

985
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: the draft, and what they get to do, having drafted

986
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: Drake May last year, is hold that damn thing hostage.

987
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: Yep, and you're gonna give it. You're gonna give a

988
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: haul up for it.

989
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 3: Somebody is now going to have to totally give up

990
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 3: a haul and compete with one another to get to

991
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: that spot.

992
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Because this is one of those situations.

993
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: I would argue that if you're the Patriots, you're definitely

994
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: moving the pick now. The only fear is can you

995
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: deal with just anyone or can you only move down

996
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: to number two? Because I don't know who the best

997
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: non quarterback in the draft is that the Patriots will

998
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: have their eyes on and they probably don't want to

999
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: mess around with that. But still they get to they

1000
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: get to hold this pick hostage.

1001
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get a bunch.

1002
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 5: More so, whatever guy you think you can get, you

1003
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 5: can still get him, unless there's I mean, I don't

1004
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: see any.

1005
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: You know. I mean, I don't know.

1006
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 5: I got to look at the draft board and look

1007
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: at the look at the guys. But you want to

1008
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 5: get as much as you can as the Patriots. You

1009
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: want to increase your your your picks this draft like

1010
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 5: no one's business.

1011
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: I guess the name.

1012
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: That I'm sure people listening to us right now are

1013
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: probably screaming at their radio or their smart speaker is

1014
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter.

1015
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: Now are you?

1016
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: Are you?

1017
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: If you're the Patriots, are you so enamored with Travis

1018
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: Hunter that you're willing to potentially move out of number

1019
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: one to something beyond number two? And yeah, risk risk

1020
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: someone else jumping in there and taking him.

1021
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think if you moved to three or

1022
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 5: four you can still get Travis Hunter Neil Kim warden

1023
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 5: Shader the first.

1024
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: Two off the board probably probably, So.

1025
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 5: If you land at three, you're still gonna get your

1026
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 5: guy plus whatever you need.

1027
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: Right, But the New York Giants might end up at

1028
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: number four.

1029
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: So if they call and they say we need that

1030
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: number one pick, you can move to number four? Are

1031
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: you comfortable doing that? If you're the Patriots, who's a three? Well,

1032
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: we don't know yet. But the four teams that we're

1033
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: talking about are the Patriots, the Browns, the Titans, and

1034
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: the Giants. Yeah, and in theory, in theory, all three

1035
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: of them need quarterbacks, but there aren't three quarterbacks and

1036
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: that are going to go one to three. I don't

1037
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: think you're right that it's probably one and two and

1038
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: then what do you do from there? And if you

1039
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: are the odd team out like is, let's say the

1040
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: Giants are sitting at four and the Patriots are like,

1041
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: who wants this number one pick? And whoever sitting at

1042
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: number two might be like, eh, we'll just take whichever

1043
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: QB you don't ye, right, and that number three team

1044
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: wants the QB.

1045
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: But they know that.

1046
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: The Patriots are like, well, but you're not going to

1047
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: take them, but they don't want to get jumped. But

1048
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: then they can kind of threaten the Travis Hunter play.

1049
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: If the Patriots were to fall to number four, all

1050
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: New York had to do is lose.

1051
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: All they had to do was lose.

1052
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 5: And we wouldn't even have to have to break this down.

1053
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 5: We're breaking it down.

1054
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: To a team that, by the way, in theory, I

1055
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: know it's a long shot, but in theory still had

1056
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: a shot.

1057
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: They had a lot to play for.

1058
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: They did, they really did. They could.

1059
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: They were just like the Dolphins. They could have they

1060
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 3: could have still been in the playoff mix. Yes, but

1061
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't Flacco. They gave up over forty points.

1062
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: To the Giants.

1063
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: Crazy like they just went up and down the field

1064
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: like they were dynamic and they're not.

1065
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: That's wild. That's wild business right there.

1066
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: Man.

1067
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: It sure is shit.

1068
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: Is that that in itself? I was like, Okay, what's

1069
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 5: what's happening here? I mean flac oh, those those early

1070
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 5: that early in like the interceptions that he just can't

1071
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 5: do it, can't do it, can't do it.

1072
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: You know what else you can't do?

1073
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 5: We can't go over our allotted time to bring on

1074
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: the one and only golden voice of Stephen gv.

1075
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. And by the way, I don't

1076
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 6: think the Giants need a quarterback anymore after today they

1077
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 6: have Drew Locke for crying out loud, a guy who

1078
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 6: in the last four seasons of his NFL career had

1079
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 6: a record of one and seven and then today ended

1080
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 6: the ten game losing streak of the Giants beat up

1081
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 6: the Colts forty five to thirty three. Drew Lock had

1082
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 6: four touchdown passes and a late TD run three hundred

1083
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 6: and nine yards passing. How about this from the league,

1084
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 6: Drew Lock today became the fifth player in the history

1085
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 6: of the NFL to have a game with not only

1086
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 6: at least three hundred passing yards and at least four

1087
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 6: tds through the year, but also a rushing TD and

1088
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 6: a passer rating in the game of at least one

1089
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 6: point fifty five. Josh Allen did that in a game

1090
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 6: last year, Aaron Rodgers in a game five years ago,

1091
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 6: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Drew Brees the others, and of course

1092
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 6: Drew Lock is now on the list as well. The

1093
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 6: Giants led twenty eight to thirteen early in the third.

1094
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 6: It was twenty eight twenty six early in the fourth.

1095
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 6: There were ten touchdowns in that game and only ten

1096
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 6: total penalties. And yes, New England could be drafting number

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Speaker 6: one overall. We still have a weekend to go. Miami

1098
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 6: is still in the playoff chase eight and eight after

1099
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 6: a win at Cleveland twenty to three. Browns have lost

1100
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 6: five in a row. They're three to thirteen. We'll see

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01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 6: if they draft a quarterback. Tyler was a QB for

1102
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 6: the Dolphins today, a touchdown run and a touchdown pass

1103
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 6: as two of Tongua Bay Loo was out with a

1104
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: hip injury. Minnesota won its ninth game in a row,

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01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: beat Green Bay twenty seven to twenty five. Sam Darnold

1106
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 6: three more touchdown passes, one interception. He had three hundred

1107
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 6: and seventy seven yards through the air two minute warning

1108
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 6: late first half of the Sunday Night NFL game in DC.

1109
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 6: The Falcons lead the Commanders fourteen to seven. Atlanta cannot

1110
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 6: clinch its division title tonight because Tampa Bay already won

1111
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 6: today easily over Carolina. Atlanta does have b John Robinson now.

1112
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 6: While Michael Pennix has an interception and just sixty six

1113
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 6: yards passing in the first half, Robinson sixty three yards

1114
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 6: rushing and a couple of one yard tds, so they're

1115
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 6: ahead on the road against Jayden Daniels in company. Daniels

1116
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 6: one touchdown pass, one interception, only one carry so far.

1117
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 6: It was a twenty five yard run. Washington would clinch

1118
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 6: a playoff berth with a win or a tie tonight

1119
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 6: Washington's already ten and five Monday Night Detroit at Sanfrance Cisco,

1120
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 6: the Buffalo Bills clinch the two seed in the AFC,

1121
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 6: beating the Jets forty to fourteen Josh Allen with three

1122
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 6: total touchdowns. In fact, the Buffalo Bills have scored at

1123
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 6: least thirty points in twelve different games this season. The

1124
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 6: Packers did that in twenty twenty, but only eight teams

1125
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 6: in NFL history have had thirty points in at least

1126
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 6: twelve different games, and it's thirteen and three. The record

1127
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: for the Bills. Now that ties a franchise record most

1128
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 6: regular season victories for him. They beat the Jets and

1129
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 6: it was forty to nothing over the Jets mid fourth quarter,

1130
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 6: Philadelphia down Dallas forty one to seven. Philly clinched the

1131
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 6: NFC East title with a win. Jalen Hurts was out

1132
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 6: today with a concussion. Kenny Pickett, the starting quarterback, had

1133
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 6: a touchdown pass touchdown run, left with a rib injury.

1134
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 6: Tanner McKee had two touchdown passes. Saquon Barkley now over

1135
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 6: two thousand yards rushing this year. Today he had thirty

1136
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 6: one carries one hundred and sixty seven yards. The Tampa

1137
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 6: Bay win was forty eight to fourteen over Carolina. Baker

1138
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 6: Mayfield five touchdown pass is three hundred and fifty nine yards.

1139
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 6: Jacksonville beat Tennessee twenty to thirteen in a battle of

1140
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 6: teams that were three and twelve. The Raiders were three

1141
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 6: and twelve but got a victory at New Orleans twenty

1142
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: five to ten. It was thirteen to ten at halftime.

1143
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 6: More on the Saints in a moment in the NBA

1144
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 6: Oklahoma Cities twenty six and five. They just ripped Memphis

1145
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 6: one thirty to one oh six. Shay Giljes, Alexander thirty

1146
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 6: five points, John Moranda, the Grizzlies out tonight with a

1147
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 6: shoulder injury, and we've got finally a win. And there

1148
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 6: was a fight late in the game, so it took

1149
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 6: a while to finish, but Miami Heat did get a

1150
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 6: win at Houston one oh four to one hundred. Earlier

1151
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 6: victories for Indiana, Atlanta, and Orlando. On a last second

1152
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 6: layup by Cole Anthony beat Brooklyn one o two to

1153
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 6: one oh one. The Lakers traded D'Angelo Russell to the Nets.

1154
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 6: NHL wins for Detroit and Anaheim, among tonight's games four

1155
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 6: minutes left second period, Minnesota tied one to one with

1156
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 6: the Senators. Guys, there had been no shutouts in the

1157
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 6: NFL this season until the Saints heard about that said,

1158
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 6: really stay tuned, So the Saints on Monday, we're shut

1159
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 6: out at green Bay. Yes, the first shutout in the

1160
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 6: whole league this season. There's still never been a full

1161
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 6: season without a shutout game now, the previous low was two.

1162
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 6: That's only one so far. We only have just over

1163
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 6: a week left in the season. How rare is this

1164
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 6: if you go back even to nineteen sixty five, In

1165
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 6: all the years since, we've only had two seasons with

1166
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 6: as low as two shutouts. We're standing at one right

1167
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 6: now and there will be no shutout tonight. About a

1168
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 6: minute to go first half, Atlanta fourteen to seven leaders

1169
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 6: at Washington.

1170
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: Back to you, although that said, Steve, the Texans deserve

1171
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: one for their Christmas Day for oh my gosh, they

1172
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: scored two because Derek Henry fell down in the end zone.

1173
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: Their all fense got goosed.

1174
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 6: Are you predicting a San Francisco score for the home

1175
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 6: game against Detroit tomorrow night?

1176
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: There'll be a score.

1177
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean Detroit literally does not have any people that

1178
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: play defense anymore, so I would imagine that the forty

1179
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: nine ers, and by the way, I am local, and

1180
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: the weather will be dry, so we don't have to

1181
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: do the whole thing about Brock Perdy and the wet ball.

1182
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say bet the over tomorrow night.

1183
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 6: The Cleveland Browns are still playing next week, so just

1184
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 6: for that too. We had a Ravens the thirty one

1185
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 6: to two win. As you mentioned, it's the Ravens hosting

1186
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 6: the Browns next week. So if we're looking ahead, that's

1187
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 6: what i'd look ahead too well.

1188
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 3: And the Ravens need that too, right because they got

1189
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: to hold off the Steelers still.

1190
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's a good candidate. I like it.

1191
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: I like it all right, Steve, great stuff, as always

1192
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Tyrack dot Com Studios, Mark Willardy from Salam

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, while we're on that that Texans game, which

1194
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 3: I know gets you a little bit there.

1195
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: He It kind of brings up an interesting.

1196
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: Conversation I think about quarterbacking around the league. I saw

1197
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: this and I think it was Albert Breer who said it,

1198
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 3: and this year has crystallized it for all of the

1199
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 3: quarterback debating that we all do like they just it's

1200
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: everywhere all the time, Right, we're talking about these young

1201
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 3: guys tonight there's been the two years long Rock Purty conversation.

1202
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert I think has dipped his.

1203
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: Toe in the water because he's really good, but he's

1204
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 3: still never won a playoff game.

1205
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts.

1206
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: At the beginning of the year, the Eagle fans were

1207
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: after him, and now he's thirteen and three.

1208
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: All this debate, I think you can say.

1209
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 3: This, there are four dudes who I would argue are different.

1210
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: There are four dudes they all play in the AFC,

1211
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 3: and that's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.

1212
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: And Joe Burrow.

1213
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: Now, outside of that, how much of the production that

1214
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: you get from a QB has to do with that

1215
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: quarterback's talent versus what's really happening around him? Like, explain

1216
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 3: Sam Donald to me this year, Explain Baker Mayfield to me.

1217
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 3: How much is talent versus what is sort of the

1218
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: place setting for said quarterback?

1219
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 5: There's a combination of both. Right, the place has to

1220
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 5: be set to enjoy the meal. So the talent is

1221
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 5: the meal and if the place that the place setting

1222
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 5: is set properly, then the mill can be enjoyed. And

1223
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 5: we've seen it both ways. Take Sam Donald like he

1224
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 5: was in, you know, a messy place to start his career,

1225
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 5: and what happens is you develop messy habits you you

1226
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 5: don't you can't enjoy the pace of learning and getting

1227
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 5: better without you know, the slopping, the grossness of of

1228
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 5: of your situation when you come in and you have

1229
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 5: to be the savior of a franchise. Number one is

1230
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 5: not fair for a young player fresh out of college.

1231
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 5: But more times than not, it doesn't work out in

1232
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 5: your advantage. And that's what we see. So that's why

1233
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 5: I'm always like, hey man, look, just because you draft

1234
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 5: him in the first round doesn't mean you got to

1235
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: put them out there and play. Build up this roster,

1236
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 5: get get people, get make things happen for him. So

1237
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 5: clean up your clean up your area before you set

1238
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 5: the you know, before you serve the meal. We just

1239
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 5: sending these kids out there. It ain't even know, plates

1240
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: and knives and barks on the table. You just like,

1241
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 5: hey man, going out.

1242
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 4: There, and.

1243
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 5: So many more times than not, it has such an

1244
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 5: adverse effect on their abilities and in their careers and

1245
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 5: their trajectory. I love the fact that we're in a

1246
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 5: situation where we get to see a resurgence of guys

1247
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 5: who were thrown away. You know, look at Baker Maker

1248
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield today, like the numbers he put up, like

1249
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 5: he's gonna sling that thing, right. It's it's a it's

1250
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 5: a beautiful thing to see. And I always say, one

1251
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 5: man's trash is another man's treasure.

1252
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 4: It happens.

1253
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 5: Man, if you see something in someone who's like, man,

1254
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 5: I can really work with that, and you create a

1255
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 5: conducive learning environment for him, then you allow the.

1256
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: Talent to surface.

1257
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,520
Speaker 5: Think about if Sam Donald didn't go to San Francisco

1258
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 5: learn how to actually beat a bro and then didn't

1259
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 5: get an opportunity in Minnesota, what will.

1260
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 4: Be saying about his career that would have been it?

1261
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: Well?

1262
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 3: Right, and this is up that Like, I'd love to

1263
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 3: continue this conversation because it's up and down the board

1264
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 3: where it feels like guys moonlight as like, oh, that's

1265
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: a dude, and then the next year it's not a dude.

1266
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1267
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 3: Jared Goff and Tua are making more than fifty mil

1268
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: per pop. Now we've got questions about Brock Purdy and C. J.

1269
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: Stroud and all of a sudden, Sam Donald is amazing,

1270
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: thirty two touchdowns, eleven picks. What does Minnesota do next year?

1271
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: With JJ McCarthy on the way, justin, Herbert Kyler Murray,

1272
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 3: we could do this conversation all over the place. It

1273
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: also leads to a comment you made earlier about the

1274
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: MVP when you said, and I love what you said

1275
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: that why have we all forgotten about Lamar Jackson?

1276
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: And just handed it to Josh?

1277
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 3: Put the numbers side by side and let's talk about it.

1278
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 2: So we'll do all of that. Next E from Salam

1279
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

1280
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: Okay, these arethetyreg dot com studios with E from Salama

1281
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 3: Mark Willin. I'm just playing around with some numbers here.

1282
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: We can do this for a little bit top of

1283
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 3: the hour. You're all voting for the wrong guy for MVP.

1284
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: You are like, I mean, I feel like the two

1285
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: of us could put forth an argument where you're like, oh,

1286
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 3: this isn't an argument, it's just a fact you're voting

1287
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: for the wrong guy.

1288
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: But whatever.

1289
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: But there's also this I'm fascinated by this idea of

1290
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: what's going on around a quarterback and how do we

1291
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: talk about it, how do we make sense of it?

1292
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 3: Because it's the quarterback position, we want that person to

1293
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 3: be superman. Well, that's what we want, and so we'll

1294
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 3: do things like we do in the NBA, where it's

1295
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 3: like you got to elevate the people around you. And

1296
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: if there are injuries around you, or you're coaching is

1297
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 3: having a bad year, or people are dropping balls or whatever,

1298
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 3: it's still your fall this year fault. You've got to

1299
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 3: pick them all up and take them to the Promised Land,

1300
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: as if that exists in football. Meanwhile, Joe Burrow can

1301
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: win four in a row to get to eight and eight. Nobody,

1302
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: nobody says Joe did anything wrong because he's winning games

1303
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: for your fantasy team. Meantime, ready for this number. Sam

1304
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: Darnold and Baker Mayfield two years ago were teammates on

1305
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers, and the Panthers could not figure out

1306
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 3: which quarterback they hated more.

1307
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: Come figure it out. They're like, we don't like that guy,

1308
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: but we really don't like that guy.

1309
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: And then you could just go back and forth, and

1310
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: what did they end up doing with both of them?

1311
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: Kick them out of here. Leave these two men are you.

1312
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 3: Ready have combined this year for seventy eight touchdowns?

1313
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: Wow?

1314
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh and twenty three wins. So tell me again that

1315
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 3: the quarterback is not supposed to be the product of

1316
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 3: an environment. I'll give you the Big four and even

1317
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: Burrow because I just said his record is still not good.

1318
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: He's probably going to miss the playoffs. But if I

1319
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: set aside those four Burrow, Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh, what.

1320
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 2: Are we doing to these other qbs?

1321
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: You know? Is CJ.

1322
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: Stroud now supposedly is he not the answer? In you?

1323
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: Is that what I'm supposed to believe? He not the guy?

1324
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 3: And and and Tua is is not good and and

1325
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 3: and rock Purty is is not good, all based on

1326
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: some clear things I think that have been going on

1327
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 3: around them, starting with major injury.

1328
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I.

1329
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 5: The scope in which we grade our players is always

1330
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 5: out of focus. And what's good for the goose is

1331
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,440
Speaker 5: very rarely good for the gender.

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 6: And.

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01:17:51,080 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 5: Perception is reality. All of these statements are what makes

1334
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 5: evaluating who's what and who even more difficult. Also, we're

1335
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 5: also creatures of the moment. Game by game, week by week,

1336
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 5: you can decide who's good and who's not who's the

1337
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 5: MVP who's not instead of looking at the totality in

1338
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,480
Speaker 5: the body of work.

1339
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 4: On that individual year, and so it's almost like, well.

1340
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 5: Whoever plays last, whoever has the last game, whoever is

1341
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 5: in the MVP running, whoever has the last game next week,

1342
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 5: And if they just continue to do what they've been

1343
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 5: doing all year, they'll be the MVP. If Lamar Jackson

1344
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: plays last and he's out of this world like he's been,

1345
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 5: he'll be the MVP. If Josh Allen plays last and

1346
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 5: he's out of this world like he's been, he'll be

1347
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 5: the MVP. Unless the voting is already done, I'm not

1348
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 5: sure when they turn those ballots in.

1349
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not either, And quite frankly, I mean the Bills.

1350
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,480
Speaker 3: Next week's game is a complete nothing burger for them.

1351
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: He probably should he should not play in that football game.

1352
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 3: Lamar has to play though in his mm HM, so

1353
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: that's interesting.

1354
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 4: Yes he does.

1355
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: They've they've got a division to go clinch now. They

1356
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 3: played the Cleveland Browns.

1357
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: So.

1358
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 3: On paper, maybe it's not that difficult of a game,

1359
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 3: but we'll see. And speaking of that MVP vote, indeed,

1360
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 3: people are you're getting ready to vote for the wrong guy,

1361
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: and we can prove it to you and we will next.

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1369
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Speaker 3: let's ride now, Ephraim. I wish that we were in

1370
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 3: debate class and the teacher said, okay, you over here,

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01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 3: make up two names, Sam and Asha. You guys get

1372
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: to debate Josh Allen and Mark and Ephram. You're over here,

1373
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: You're going to debate Lamar Jackson. I'm like, we win.

1374
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: It's over.

1375
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't understand how anybody.

1376
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: Could even attempt to make an argument for Josh Allen

1377
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 3: as the MVP. What precisely would you start with because

1378
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: you want him to be because Lamar was last year.

1379
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 2: Listen to this.

1380
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: Lamar has more touchdown throws, fewer picks, more rushing yards,

1381
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 3: more passing yards, a significantly higher quarterback rating a higher

1382
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: completion percentage and both teams are in first place, and

1383
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 3: exactly are you arguing?

1384
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 4: And he plays in a tougher division, and.

1385
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: He plays in a tougher division, thank you?

1386
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: Josh gets six games sorry Dolphins, four games.

1387
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 4: Handed to him every year.

1388
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,480
Speaker 3: Like, I don't even understand why we're having the conversation.

1389
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is we're not. People have just

1390
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: moved on. Josh is the MVP, So that's fun. What

1391
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: they explain it to me?

1392
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: Tell me how? And my ears are wide opening from

1393
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: I don't hear it. I don't see it.

1394
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 5: I think people get enamored with a player, right, Josh

1395
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 5: Allen was on the cover of Madden twenty twenty four,

1396
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 5: So people get enamored with with a player and that's

1397
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 5: where they live, and if that player is dynamic and tremendous,

1398
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 5: then it's easy for them to stay there. And there's

1399
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 5: also well Lamar's he won it last year, so it's

1400
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 5: Josh's turn.

1401
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 4: It doesn't really go.

1402
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 5: Like that, No, it doesn't, right, Like we see that

1403
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 5: at the Heisman Trophy. Well, he wonted last year, but

1404
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 5: he's still the best player in college this year too,

1405
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 5: So well we got to spread it around. But why

1406
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 5: do you have to spread it around? Aaron Rodgers went

1407
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 5: it back to back, didn't he?

1408
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: Yep?

1409
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning want it back to back, didn't he yep?

1410
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 5: So what are we talking about? What are we talking about?

1411
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1412
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: And I think what we're talking about is that people

1413
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 3: already decided because five weeks ago, Lamar was mired in

1414
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: second place, and if you had Josh on your fantasy team,

1415
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 3: you were just happy camper. And it looked like Buffalo.

1416
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: You know, Buffalo went and beat Kansas City and that

1417
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: was it. So we just moved on and nobody's watching

1418
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: what's happening anymore. That's what it feels like to me.

1419
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 5: I mean, Baltimore is eleven and five, Buffalo's thirteen and three.

1420
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 5: Baltimore is in a much tougher conference by a mile.

1421
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 5: It's not even close. Even the bad teams in that division,

1422
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 5: excuse me, that division can can get on.

1423
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: You one of them. There's only one of them, so right,

1424
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 3: there's no plural there. The Bengals are not a good defense,

1425
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: but it's not a bad team.

1426
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 4: No, they're not.

1427
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 5: And it's one of those situations where that in itself

1428
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: should be like, oh, okay, well this their road obviously

1429
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 5: is harder because they have to play against, you know,

1430
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 5: a division opponent that is far more superior than the

1431
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 5: one Josh Allen has to play right, eight and eight,

1432
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: ten and six, eleven and five versus eight and eight,

1433
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 5: four and twelve, three and thirteen. That's to me speaks volumes.

1434
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Buffalo plays in a division where they are the only

1435
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: team with a positive point differential. The Ravens play in

1436
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: a division where the Browns are the only team with

1437
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 3: a negative point differential. Another way to say what you just.

1438
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 5: Said, and you flip the coin and you go to

1439
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 5: the NFC and you want to argue, Okay, Philly better

1440
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 5: than Minnesota.

1441
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: Are Detroit?

1442
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 5: Well, Philly has Dallas and New York giants, the giants

1443
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 5: in Minnesota and Detroit have well, Minnesota has Detroit and

1444
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 5: green Bay and green Bay.

1445
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: They're all, they all. This is crazy.

1446
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 5: They all have over eleven wins eleven or more wins

1447
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 5: in that division. That's out of control. Yep, that's out

1448
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 5: of control. No other division has three double digit winners

1449
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 5: in it, and two of them are you know, fourteen

1450
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 5: and one is fourteen and two. Detroit plays tomorrow they're

1451
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 5: thirteen and two and Green Bay is eleven and five.

1452
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 5: That's crazy to me.

1453
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we got it. We gotta start a campaign. Man,

1454
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: it's too late, I really do. I feel like it's

1455
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: too late. But I'm looking at this stuff and I'm like,

1456
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 3: it's not okay. I'm overstating it when I say it's

1457
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 3: not even close. But to me, there is obvious and

1458
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: and it's really difficult because if you watch either of

1459
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: these teams play, I get the same vibe, which is just,

1460
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: oh my god, this team is good, but they're elite

1461
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: because of their QB.

1462
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: That's it.

1463
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: Like they both are centered around this player and they're

1464
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 3: both phenomenal. And so I'm actually not even offended by

1465
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 3: the idea of a campaign for Josh Allen for MVP.

1466
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:30,839
Speaker 4: I'm offended.

1467
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm offended by the idea that it's just like obvious

1468
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: and over.

1469
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's not like.

1470
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 3: Earned justh is incredible. But but somehow Lamar lost that

1471
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 3: game in Pittsburgh like eight weeks ago, which was totally

1472
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: justin Tucker's fault, by the way, and and and somehow

1473
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 3: simultaneously Josh beat Patrick in Kansas City, and we just

1474
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 3: moved on, and I'm like, y'all, come back, come back.

1475
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: You left the game too early.

1476
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: You're the people whose car brake lights we can see

1477
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 3: over the right field fence at Dodger Stadium with kirk

1478
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: Kinson at the home run.

1479
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: You left. You left a game that is still very

1480
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: very much being played.

1481
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not holding it against Lamar because he has

1482
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 3: two MVPs on his mantle already.

1483
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: He has been absurdly good this year.

1484
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 4: It's not even it's crazy to watch.

1485
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: And again, if you're a quarterback rating person, and that's

1486
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: not the end all be all, but I do think

1487
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 3: it is significant when we look at two teams both

1488
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: in first place and all of that, and you can

1489
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: start doing the if and and right, how the team

1490
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: plays football and all that. Josh Allen's quarterback rating is

1491
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 3: one hundred and one point two. That's really good. Lamar's

1492
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: is one hundred and twenty one point six.

1493
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 4: That's all time, Okay, third all time.

1494
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 3: Lamar's is number one in the league, almost by double

1495
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: digits over who's number two.

1496
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Josh Allen is number nine.

1497
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 5: Lamar has more rushing yards, more total tv tds, more hell.

1498
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: The only stat you can come up with in Josh's favor,

1499
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 3: literally the only stat is rushing touchdowns. And that's because

1500
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: he's their biggest back, right, Like, his touchdowns are all

1501
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 3: from one yard almost, you know, Lamar's check Christmas are

1502
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: from fifty five yards away, jogging, jogging and looking at

1503
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 3: people trying to catch him.

1504
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, They're both so stunning to watch.

1505
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 3: I just hate the fact that no one's talking about

1506
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: the season the Lamar is having.

1507
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's outstanding.

1508
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 5: What voters are going to vote they're swayed by the

1509
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 5: the things that you know they're swayed by. Maybe they're

1510
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 5: like the Jets. Maybe all the voters are listening to

1511
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 5: their teenage sons and daughters.

1512
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm going to be the dummy who's gonna

1513
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: bite again, and I'm going to say that one of

1514
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: them is going to represent.

1515
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 4: The AFC in the Super Bowl. Mm yep, I know. Well,

1516
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 4: I think you're on that train alone.

1517
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: No I'm not. I'm not.

1518
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,879
Speaker 3: I'm willing to admit that maybe I'm I mean, quite frankly,

1519
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 3: I might be falling into the same trap that has

1520
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 3: people ignoring Lamar's MVP chase, which is that you get

1521
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 3: bored of seeing the same thing over and over, and

1522
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: so maybe that's why I'm I'm like, no, the Chiefs

1523
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: aren't going great because it's yeah, it's greatness.

1524
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 2: There's no there's no two ways about that.

1525
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: I just happen to think that those guys, if they

1526
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 3: are presented, especially if Lamar is presented, uh, you know,

1527
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 3: something other than snow in Kansas City in a few weeks.

1528
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 2: I think he can get it done.

1529
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, if he uses his legs. Yes, And Derrick Henry

1530
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 5: is going to be that piece, that missing piece, because

1531
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 5: they're going to have a he of a time trying

1532
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 5: to slow him down.

1533
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, I think it's a different team this year.

1534
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: And this is why that Buye's double by is working

1535
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 5: the benefit.

1536
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: It'll help, It'll help, there's no h there's no question.

1537
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 3: All right, glad you are with us tonight, Mark, with

1538
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 3: any from salam I do want to ask you this.

1539
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 3: This is NFL related, but NBA adjacent. Lebron's comments on

1540
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: December twenty sixth are worth our time. Let's let's dive

1541
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: in coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1542
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 3: right now, we are live in the tire rack dot

1543
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: Com Studios, Mark Willardy from Salaam. Shortly after the show,

1544
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 3: the podcast goes up. If you missed any of today's show,

1545
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 3: be sure to check it out on the podcast. Just

1546
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 3: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Why

1547
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 3: you're there, follow rate review the podcast. We'd love that

1548
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 3: if you would again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1549
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. You'll see this show posted right

1550
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 3: after we get off of the air. Eight from the

1551
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 3: Washington Commanders have nine penalties and we are still in

1552
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: the third quarter and they are only down by three,

1553
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 3: and they are driving the.

1554
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: Nine penalties man a lot.

1555
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Man, that's a whole lot of kicking yourself in the shin,

1556
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 3: a whole lot of kicking yourself in the shin.

1557
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 5: It's just undisciplined. Yeah, but that's how dynamic they've been.

1558
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 5: I mean, they're in this game. Oh, they're right in

1559
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 5: this game. Jayden looks fantastic. He did throw one pick.

1560
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 3: Pennix looks a little more like he looks good, but

1561
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:21,879
Speaker 3: he looks a little more.

1562
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,879
Speaker 2: Like, whoa wow, this is the NFL.

1563
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of like, you know, he threw a

1564
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 3: bad pick early, and then he's also thrown a lot

1565
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 3: of like I'm not gonna throw another pick again, throws

1566
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,919
Speaker 3: which are like I'm gonna throw this about five yards

1567
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 3: ten yards over my receiver's head. Also just to make

1568
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 3: sure I don't make another mistake. So anyway, fun watch

1569
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: and the commanders are actually in the process of going

1570
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 3: for it right now and fourth down and oh gosh,

1571
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 3: I think they got it. They did, and so that

1572
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 3: drive is gonna stay alive a couple of minutes to

1573
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 3: go in the third quarter, and we'll keep you up

1574
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: to date there.

1575
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,719
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I loved this. Take a listen

1576
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: to this.

1577
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Here's Lebron James after the NFL waltzed in on a

1578
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 3: Wednesday and said, let's play the NFL. We can play

1579
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: NFL on Wednesday, and he was clearly offended by the

1580
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 3: turf war that has started.

1581
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 2: Take a listen.

1582
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 4: I love the NFL. I love NFL.

1583
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 5: Christmas our day.

1584
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 3: I love the NFL. But Christmas is our day. What

1585
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 3: is your response to that?

1586
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 4: Says who?

1587
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: Well, if I were Lebron, I bet I would.

1588
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 4: Be like, says me, the people, because I can tell

1589
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 4: you what determines your day.

1590
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 5: Yep, the viewers. Now, I'll tell you this. The Lakers

1591
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 5: Golden State game probably had a big number number one

1592
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 5: the two most iconic players we still have left in

1593
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 5: the game playing against each other.

1594
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 4: Because they have a history.

1595
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 5: And all the NBA game, all the NFL games were

1596
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 5: over with. So you're going to get though, but go

1597
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 5: back and check the earlier basketball games.

1598
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 4: M see how many people watch the Knicks game? Right?

1599
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 2: That next game got four point nine million?

1600
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 4: What about after that? Who was after that?

1601
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: I believe? Then we went to was that Sons and Nuggets?

1602
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 4: No, that was the Sons and Nuggets were the late

1603
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 4: game after the Sons.

1604
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Sons and Nuggets had three point eight million. You're right,

1605
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 3: that's the late window.

1606
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 4: Ye.

1607
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 3: The Warriors and Lakers, as you mentioned, they had the

1608
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 3: biggest number of the games, seven point seven.

1609
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: And it peaked at eight.

1610
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 8: Point three in the fourth quarter as you got the

1611
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 8: Curry flurry that came back and tied it and send

1612
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 8: it well sent it to the last two seconds that

1613
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 8: is until Austin Reeves got the lay in to win it.

1614
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: The average of the NBA games across the entire day

1615
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 3: was five point two I think five point two million

1616
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 3: across the entire day and best Christmas Day ratings in

1617
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 3: five years for the NBA.

1618
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because that game alone saved them. But it

1619
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 5: was at a time where there were no NFL.

1620
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 4: Games on correct, So.

1621
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Like, if there was an NFL

1622
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 5: game on during that time, do they pull a eight?

1623
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 3: Probably not, almost, definitely not. I mean, here's the real

1624
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 3: you can add all those NBA numbers together. Let's see

1625
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 3: seven plus four plus four and then whatever average five

1626
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 3: point two across five games, so that equals somewhere in

1627
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 3: the neighborhood of twenty five. Yep, yep, that's exactly what

1628
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 3: each NFL game got on its own.

1629
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 2: On a streaming service.

1630
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 5: So ask yourself, who really owns Christmas?

1631
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 2: Wow?

1632
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 3: I would just say this, The NFL owns any day

1633
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,879
Speaker 3: that it plays period.

1634
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. That was on a Wednesday, on a Wednesday, and so.

1635
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1636
01:37:54,600 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 3: It's a rap. It's a rap. The NFL will Yeah,

1637
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 3: the NFL is gonna play every day of the week.

1638
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 5: I they don't care who they who they are.

1639
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: They'll be a leapier in there.

1640
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: But the next four years of our lives, Christmas is

1641
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 3: going to be like on a Thursday and a Saturday

1642
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 3: and a Sunday and a Monday.

1643
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 2: Ye, bye bye NBA.

1644
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: It's going to get even worse because I would argue

1645
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 3: that as it moves over the weekend, if I'm the NFL,

1646
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 3: why would I stop at two games?

1647
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: Why would I do that?

1648
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 5: Oh, once it gets back to Saturday, Yeah, it's gonna

1649
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 5: be four games.

1650
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: That's of course, and it should be and and good lord,

1651
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I know when they play when it

1652
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 3: when Christmas is on a Sunday, they move the whole

1653
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 3: day to Saturday. But they'll they'll save three games. They'll

1654
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 3: save three for Christmas on Sunday. I mean, yeah, it's funny,

1655
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm look, you know you and I are

1656
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,040
Speaker 3: both NBA fans. I'm happy that the NBA had the

1657
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:05,520
Speaker 3: ratings on Christmas Day that essentially erased all the losses

1658
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 3: that they've had up until this point.

1659
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's been awful.

1660
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 3: It's been awful, and this even some things out for

1661
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 3: the NBA. And that's great, But I'm sorry, Christmas is

1662
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 3: not your day. Your chain got took.

1663
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 2: De bo.

1664
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tuck mine in. That's what Lebron basically said.

1665
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tuck mine in. Yeah, it's gonna get snatched,

1666
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 5: got snatched.

1667
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, this is the part that no

1668
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: one will bring up. That headline game is still the

1669
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:50,560
Speaker 3: two ratings drivers in the NBA and one of them

1670
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: is forty and the other one is about to turn

1671
01:39:54,040 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 3: thirty seven, and both teams are kind of, eh, a

1672
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 3: little above average, and that.

1673
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 2: Ain't good because where where's this going next? They can't

1674
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 2: leave like the NBA is moving into the.

1675
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods conversation of like, what the hell are we

1676
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 3: gonna do when these guys are gone?

1677
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be pretty.

1678
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 3: Like who's driving ratings in three years on Christmas? When

1679
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:30,839
Speaker 3: when Christmas is on a Sunday?

1680
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 2: Whoo? Who in the NBA is.

1681
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 3: Like tune in is gonna be Jalen Brunson against Joe

1682
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 3: been Street.

1683
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like from tune in. And Giannis is getting old.

1684
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: We won't be able to watch him much longer.

1685
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 4: Man, they got a serious issue.

1686
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 3: So you know me, I'm not a Lebron hater. I

1687
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 3: love both these players. I love that they gave each

1688
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 3: other big old bear hug before the game. I thought

1689
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 3: it was a great game. It was a great basketball game,

1690
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 3: super entertaining. You get the whole Curry thing at the

1691
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 3: end you're tied with two seconds to go. Like it

1692
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 3: had everything, It had everything, and it added up to

1693
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 3: less than a third of a Texans game at ten

1694
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 3: in the morning, West Coast.

1695
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's but it's your day.

1696
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 5: That's the reality of it. And just because you say it,

1697
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 5: don't make it.

1698
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 3: So if you want something to go up against the NFL.

1699
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 3: To me, there's one thing, and one thing only.

1700
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 4: Oh I know what this is. Oh we Steve Disager.

1701
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That's what I would try.

1702
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 6: IM not sure I would watch that. By the way,

1703
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 6: the man the five Chris NBA games are the five

1704
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 6: most watched NBA games of this season because they all

1705
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 6: surpassed what Opening Night got this year. So the NBA season,

1706
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 6: the ratings were down eighteen percent nationally going into Christmas.

1707
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 4: Now they're down just four percent.

1708
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 6: Can we say though, this huge asterisk on all of

1709
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 6: this where the NBA says, hey, first time in five

1710
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,839
Speaker 6: years that, well all of your games were on ABC.

1711
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 4: That'll only happen once.

1712
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 6: Ever, it's used to be some on cable, some on

1713
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 6: a normal channel. So yeah, ratings are going to be

1714
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 6: up a little bit just because of that, and I

1715
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 6: looked up future Christmas Day, So like next year Christmas

1716
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 6: is gonna be on a Thursday, and the year after

1717
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 6: on a Friday. By the time we get to twenty

1718
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 6: twenty eight, it's not gonna be on a Sunday.

1719
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: It's it's a leap here, leap here.

1720
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 6: It's gonna skip to Monday, December twenty fifth. There's not

1721
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 6: a Christmas Sunday coming in our near future.

1722
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Just for the perfect perfect.

1723
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 6: There'say Saturday in twenty twenty seven, a Christmas Monday in

1724
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight. We do have one week left next

1725
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 6: weekend in the NFL. Can I just say again out loud,

1726
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 6: if they don't pick Minnesota at Detroit for next Sunday night,

1727
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 6: I'm a bit surprised what that's gonna decide the division.

1728
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 4: And the number. You know that's gotta be the game.

1729
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 6: Detroit still has to play tomorrow night at San Francisco.

1730
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 6: If the Lions win that, they'll be fourteen and two.

1731
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 6: For the moment, everything is to be flex. There's not

1732
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 6: a start time for a single game. We don't know

1733
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 6: who's playing on Saturday. We don't yet officially know who's

1734
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 6: next Sunday Night anything but right now in Sunday Night Football,

1735
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 6: the Falcons are holding on to a lead at Washington

1736
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 6: seventeen to fourteen. Atlanta cannot clinch its division title tonight

1737
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 6: because Tampa Bay already won easily today. Washington, though, at

1738
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 6: ten and five, can clinch a playoff berth with a

1739
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 6: win or a tie, and they've just taken the lead.

1740
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 6: Touchdown Commanders Chris Rodriguez two yard TD and extra point

1741
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 6: will make it twenty one seventeen over the Falcons. Earlier

1742
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 6: Jayden Dan Mules with his second touchdown pass of the night.

1743
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 6: It was a ten yard of to zach Ertz. In fact,

1744
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 6: that was a great drive to open the second half

1745
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 6: for Washington in your eight minute drive fifteen plays, sixty

1746
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 6: nine yards. Falcons had led at halftime because Bjohn Robinson

1747
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 6: he had two one yard touchdown runs. He still has

1748
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 6: eighty three yards rushing now on fourteen carries for the night. Again,

1749
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 6: an extra point will make it twenty one seventeen. Washington

1750
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 6: is in the lead. Minnesota won its ninth game in

1751
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 6: a row, beat Green Bay twenty seven to twenty five.

1752
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 6: It was twenty seven to ten with six and a

1753
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 6: half minutes left Miami is still alive for the last

1754
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 6: playoff berth in the AFC after winning at Cleveland twenty

1755
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 6: to three. The Giants ended a ten game losing streak

1756
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 6: beating Indianapolis forty five thirty three. The Colts are eliminated

1757
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 6: from the chase wins for the Raiders and Jaguars. Tampa

1758
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 6: Bay's win was forty eight fourteen over Carolina. Baker Mayfield

1759
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,919
Speaker 6: five touchdown passes three hundred and fifty nine yards. Buffalo

1760
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 6: clinched a two seed in the AFC beating the Jets

1761
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 6: forty to fourteen. More on in a moment, Philadelphia clinch

1762
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 6: the NFC East title with a win over Dallas forty

1763
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 6: one to seven. Saquon Barkley now over two thousand yards

1764
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 6: rushing this year. He had thirty one carries one hundred

1765
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 6: and sixty seven yards. In the NBA, Oklahoma City won

1766
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 6: its eleventh straight game, beating up Memphis one thirty to

1767
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 6: one oh six. The Lake contest has Minnesota had seventy

1768
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 6: one sixty eight on the Spurs. Late in the third,

1769
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 6: the Lakers traded D'Angelo Russell to the Nets and HL

1770
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 6: wins for Montreal and Anaheim, and among the Lake games

1771
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 6: two minutes to go. Ottawa leads at Minnesota two to one.

1772
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 6: And you guys have heard of a thing called QBR.

1773
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 6: There is the passer rating in the NFL, which is separate,

1774
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 6: but the four letter came up with a thing ten

1775
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 6: fifteen years ago called QBR. We're on a zero to

1776
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 6: one hundred scale. Their formula could rate how good a quarterback,

1777
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 6: how good a game he had. For example, Toron Taylor

1778
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 6: of the Jets was great off the bench today his

1779
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 6: QBR was ninety six. The starting quarterback for the Jets

1780
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 6: today not quite as good. Aaron Rodgers, still stuck on

1781
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 6: four hundred and ninety nine career touchdown passes, did not

1782
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 6: throw one today. He did have two interceptions, one safety,

1783
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,839
Speaker 6: He was sacked four times. He was twelve of eighteen

1784
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 6: for only one hundred twelve yards, and they were down

1785
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 6: forty to zhering at Buffalo mid fourth quarter. Aaron Rodgers

1786
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,440
Speaker 6: QBR was one.

1787
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this can't be real.

1788
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 6: Specifically, it was one point two for his efforts today.

1789
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 6: Apparently in their QBR database they have almost ten thousand

1790
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 6: games since they invented this debt, specifically nine thousand and

1791
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 6: six ninety seven. This Aaron Rodgers game today would rank

1792
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 6: as number nine thousand and six seventy seven since they

1793
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 6: invented the QBR stet A one one point two.

1794
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 3: Back to you, well, and to give somebody a frame

1795
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 3: of reference, Daniel Jones QBR cumulative for the season this

1796
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 3: year forty seven point three, So he's forty seven times

1797
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: better than what Aaron was today.

1798
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 2: So there's that.

1799
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 3: By the way, Steve, since you're so smart and on it,

1800
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable asking no, no, no, no, But you mentioned

1801
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 3: that Lions Vikings game and it needs to be flexed right,

1802
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. No matter what the Lions

1803
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:25,839
Speaker 3: do tomorrow night, the same thing holds true for the followers.

1804
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 6: Is there going to be head to head? Some people

1805
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 6: are saying, why don't the Ryans the Lions just rest,

1806
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 6: people like the Chase might be doing next weekend?

1807
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean a fair question, right, Ephraim, Seeing

1808
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 3: as you're saying that, boy, those weeks of rest are

1809
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 3: so incredibly important. Should the Lions create a bye week

1810
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,440
Speaker 3: going into that game against Minnesota?

1811
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 4: Yes, they're already the walking wounded.

1812
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 5: If this game doesn't mean anything, then I would most

1813
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 5: definitely take that approach.

1814
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Take a Listen to what Dan Campbell said earlier this

1815
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 3: week when he was asked about that possible scenario.

1816
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 9: I'll make this easy for everybody. That way, all the

1817
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 9: critics can jump out and start attacking. But that way

1818
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 9: you don't have to debate him anymore. We're bringing everything

1819
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 9: we got to this game and we were playing and

1820
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 9: I don't care what it looks like and where it's

1821
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 9: at or who's this, who's that. We're going out to

1822
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 9: play and win this game out on the West Coast.

1823
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1824
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 3: So, so he's going to handle this game the same

1825
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 3: way he handles fourth down.

1826
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 5: Basically, was there any doubt? No, this is I'm telling

1827
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 5: you this. I knew what the type of coach Dan

1828
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 5: Campbell was three years ago when he gave up the

1829
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 5: first pick picking the draft to win a game against Jacksonville.

1830
01:48:58,920 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 4: For the first pick in the.

1831
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 5: When they clearly had a guy that they wanted that

1832
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 5: Jacksonville could have just taken.

1833
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 4: I knew.

1834
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, oh, he's playing checkers, not chess. He's

1835
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 5: a checkers player, meaning you get do you look at

1836
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 5: the board, you get what you get? Oh that's a

1837
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 5: triple jump. I'm gonna do the triple jump. All right,

1838
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 5: Chess takes a little bit of planning, strategic movements. You

1839
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 5: have to think three four moves ahead. Checkers is like,

1840
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 5: oh okay, I'm just gonna jump this and jump that

1841
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 5: and king me and all of that. That's that's Dan

1842
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 5: Kimpbell's is a great checker player. Well, in the playoffs,

1843
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 5: you need to be able to play chess. That's my opinion.

1844
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I hear you, and and I'm I'm pretty

1845
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 3: sure I might be wrong on this, but I'm pretty

1846
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 3: sure that no matter what the Vikings had done today,

1847
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 3: that was still going to be the case. That this game,

1848
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:15,719
Speaker 3: as it turns out, tomorrow night doesn't matter and next

1849
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 3: week does. That is pure and simple. Such a good game.

1850
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 3: It's going to be such a good game. But you know,

1851
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. I mean, you've got to get

1852
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 3: through the forty nine Ers game with relative health. And

1853
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 3: I understand why, Like there's all this emotional stuff. It's

1854
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 3: a homecoming for Jared Goff, it's the scene of the

1855
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 3: crime last year.

1856
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 2: They want to shake that free.

1857
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 3: At the same time, I'd argue, you're not like, you

1858
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 3: go beat the hell out of the Niners.

1859
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night. And that does not erase like.

1860
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 3: Even a tiny bit of last year because these are

1861
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: both different teams number one and number two. You still

1862
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:04,679
Speaker 3: didn't go to the Super Bowl. So like, I don't

1863
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 3: know how that helps. I love the mentality. I understand

1864
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 3: where he's coming from. But here we are again in

1865
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 3: the like play the scenarios out what happens if somebody

1866
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 3: does get hurt?

1867
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Jamier a Monra Jared.

1868
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 3: What are we doing the conversation then, yeah, we're gonna

1869
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 3: bite a kneecap.

1870
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, your kneecap is the one that got.

1871
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 4: We don't worry about that. We just play next man

1872
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,560
Speaker 4: up Checkers.

1873
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, next man up. That's some blue collar football

1874
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 3: around there, man, I tell you what, I tell you what?

1875
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 3: All right with e from Salama Mark Wellard coming up

1876
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 3: one last thing on the NBA, and it might have

1877
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 3: been one of the most salacious things I've seen happen

1878
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 3: in the NBA of late, and we need to talk

1879
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 3: it out. We're also coming down the stretch in the

1880
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 3: fourth quarter of this very entertaining Commander's Falcons game. We'll

1881
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 3: get you set with all of it coming up on

1882
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:14,000
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1883
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,000
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1884
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 2: Studios, Mark willard E from Salam.

1885
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 3: The Commander's up four and in the red zone, threatening

1886
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 3: for more inside of seven minutes to go in this

1887
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 3: football game.

1888
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 2: And in fact, they're going to get a.

1889
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 3: First down, first and goal down inside the five on

1890
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: a pass from Daniels to Bates and so Washington's trying

1891
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 3: to punch it in and make it a two score game.

1892
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 2: We will keep you up to date on how that

1893
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: drive ends.

1894
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 3: Also, Jayden Daniels has broken Robert Griffin iid's NFL record

1895
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,719
Speaker 3: for rushing yards by a QB as a rookie.

1896
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 2: How about that.

1897
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 5: That's pretty great about that? That's impressive. RG three is

1898
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 5: something special, man, for that. You know that injury for.

1899
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 3: Sure, and I know it's still kind of a kind

1900
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 3: of touchy subject. RG three and running the ball in

1901
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 3: the Washington uniform.

1902
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this this they did it right. The Commander's

1903
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,759
Speaker 5: got it right. They they Yeah, they won the draft.

1904
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, and they are six minutes away

1905
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 3: from a playoff spot because of it.

1906
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 4: Man, that is that is spectacular.

1907
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: You remember our I know you do.

1908
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 3: You remember our conversations about Washington in August.

1909
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 4: Yes, I was. I've told you that. This was my peak.

1910
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 4: I and I.

1911
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 3: The only thing I said was I love everything they're doing.

1912
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 3: It feels like they might be a year away. And

1913
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 3: you could take that to mean whatever you want, Like

1914
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to go to the super Bowl,

1915
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 3: but h and they're not going to win the division,

1916
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,560
Speaker 3: but you know, here we are, and they're gonna be

1917
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 3: a factor in the NFC for a long time now.

1918
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 5: And I think they're going to be so dangerous. You know,

1919
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 5: granted they get into the playoffs, man, you're gonna be

1920
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 5: hard pressed two. I mean you would you want to

1921
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 5: play them?

1922
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 3: No? No, I don't want to see Jayden Daniels. Come

1923
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 3: if I'm if I'm one of these, you know, no,

1924
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 3: tell him what he's gonna do right.

1925
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1926
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like right now, they stand to

1927
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 3: be the five seed, which means you're pro I mean,

1928
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 3: you may see these two teams again.

1929
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 2: Right now. They're going to go on the road to

1930
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: either Tampa or Atlanta, and they.

1931
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 4: Will be favored, Oh my goodness.

1932
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 3: They they will be favored, and and then you may

1933
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 3: see them right after that. That could be Detroit or

1934
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 3: Minnesota's first opponent.

1935
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 5: You don't you don't want, yeah, because you don't want

1936
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 5: somebody with that level of talent and with that little

1937
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 5: inhibitions like they don't he don't. They don't know. I'm

1938
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 5: supposed to be.

1939
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 4: A good right right, right right.

1940
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 5: They don't know what they're doing. It is a big deal,

1941
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 5: like they just playing. He just I remember being a

1942
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 5: rookie and going to the Super Bowl. I was just like,

1943
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 5: this is just what it is.

1944
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: It's like what we do.

1945
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 4: Like it To me, it wasn't.

1946
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, oh my god, we were just we

1947
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 5: were winning and it just was normal. Eleven games in

1948
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 5: a row, all the way up to the Super Bowl.

1949
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 2: It's no stress.

1950
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 3: It's no no, there's no like, there's no that view

1951
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 3: of like, oh my god, this might be my last

1952
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 3: shot or or what does this mean the grand sort

1953
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 3: of sense of things, there's none of that.

1954
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 5: I would imagine. Ignorance is bliss. Yeh, that's what it was.

1955
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 5: Ignorance is bliss. And you know, you you strap talent

1956
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 5: on top of that, then you got a whole different

1957
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 5: ball game.

1958
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 4: This kid is electric. He's electric. Yep.

1959
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, They'll face a third and goal from just about

1960
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 3: the two and a half yard line. We'll keep you

1961
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 3: up to date on that. I wanted to ask you

1962
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 3: this real quick. I don't know if we've had this

1963
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 3: conversation before Heyl. Should players and coaches be allowed after

1964
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 3: NBA games to go just towards the refs or speak

1965
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 3: freely at least without getting fined?

1966
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 4: No?

1967
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 5: Why because it sets the precedent, and you don't want that,

1968
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 5: because now there's got to be some type of like it,

1969
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 5: and it can be blatant, it can be as bad

1970
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 5: as that or whatever that is. You don't want because

1971
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 5: it'll be that every single night, everything, every single night,

1972
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 5: which calls into question caliber of refs, everything else, everything else,

1973
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 5: And you don't want that.

1974
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 4: You really don't. Seriously, that's not something you want. Touchdown.

1975
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 3: Touchdown is gonna get called back though holding Yep, there's

1976
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 3: a holding penalty on Washington and that has defined the night.

1977
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 3: This actually would be a blowout if it were not

1978
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 3: for all of the penalties on Washington. But Jade and

1979
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 3: Daniels with a beautiful touchdown throw is gonna get called

1980
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 3: back and they're gonna.

1981
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,919
Speaker 2: Have to try it again from the twelve yard line.

1982
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

1983
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, like, you don't want after every game, Yes,

1984
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 5: every person, every coach talking about the coaches will never

1985
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 5: agree with all the calls.

1986
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 2: Of course, and so yes, I'm with you. But here's

1987
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: what I also wish.

1988
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: I wish there were a little bit more space and

1989
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 3: room to kind of speak freely on it. Not the

1990
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 3: way that Anthony Edwards did this week because he just

1991
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 3: got fined one hundred thousand dollars.

1992
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 2: But I get it, because.

1993
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 3: It was a rant where you're like, oh, he got personal.

1994
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 3: He started naming you know, he's like, not the female

1995
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 3: ref but the other two. It's a joke, and it

1996
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 3: was profanity laced and it was name calling, and it

1997
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 3: was just he absolutely let it rip.

1998
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 2: And when it comes to that, it's like I get it,

1999
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 2: I get it. You can't, you know, you can't let

2000
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 2: that be the norm.

2001
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 3: I do sometimes wish though, that at a press conference,

2002
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 3: when done with any sort of grace and maturity, if

2003
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 3: you could just say, hey, like I really didn't like

2004
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 3: what I saw there on that call or from the refs,

2005
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 3: like I don't think that kind of stuff should be fined.

2006
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then now you're opening for interpretation. What was

2007
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 5: that great. Right, let's just not do it. You can't

2008
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 5: do it, can't.

2009
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 3: Do it, can't You're right, you can't. It's entertaining when

2010
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 3: they do, and so I wish for there to be

2011
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 3: a little bit more of it. But but not like that.

2012
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 3: That was one hell of a rant. Hey Man loved

2013
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 3: it again. Twenty twenty four was great. Let's rock twenty

2014
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 3: twenty five. Happy new year to you on the other side, brother,

2015
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 3: see you on the other side. Enjoy the rest of it.

2016
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 3: We wish that to all of you as well. On

2017
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