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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas

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Speaker 2: and a Pod nnescy Hey. Hey, Cynthia's been going non

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Speaker 2: stop fashion week, her betting line one bajillion things you

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Speaker 2: can hear in her voice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm struggling a little bit today, you guys, but

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Speaker 1: I'm here. I didn't want to miss the pod with

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Speaker 1: my girl Teddy, so bear with me. I will try

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Speaker 1: to speak loud, but I am fighting a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a cold.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a cold. Well, I'm fighting a

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Speaker 2: little bit of just mental stuff right now. I promise

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Speaker 2: I will snap out of it after I kind of

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Speaker 2: give you guys the update and the only I really

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Speaker 2: was struggling this morning. I don't want to get emotional,

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Speaker 2: so I'm trying to pull it together right now. So I,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, I don't know if I was on

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Speaker 2: the pod with Tam or if I was on the

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Speaker 2: pod of Cynthia, but I mentioned that I had gotten

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Speaker 2: another biopsy last week. But the doctor had said, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm only biopsy this because it doesn't even

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Speaker 2: look like anything. But just because I'm airing on the

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Speaker 2: side of caution. So I really thought when I was

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Speaker 2: leaving that I was like good to go. Like yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I went and did all the thing, you know, like

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Speaker 2: I've just been living as if this was going to

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Speaker 2: it was going to be nothing. It was going to

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Speaker 2: be benign. And then yesterday at like four o'clock, I

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Speaker 2: saw I had a mis call and I'm like, oh no.

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Speaker 2: I saw it was my doctor's number, and I like

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Speaker 2: call back. I'm like, oh no. They normally text if

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Speaker 2: it's good news, and they call if it's bad news.

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Speaker 2: And they called and said this one is melanoma in

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Speaker 2: C two, which it's good news when it's in C

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Speaker 2: two because it means that it's on a hot we

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Speaker 2: caught it early. But it does mean that I have

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Speaker 2: to have another wide incision surgery. And the other part

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Speaker 2: that makes me worried is that it means that all

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Speaker 2: the spots that they thought were benign and never looked

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Speaker 2: So I go in next Wednesday for surgery, and then

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Speaker 2: they're going to do more biopsies of all the little

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Speaker 2: spots on my shoulder to see just to make sure

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Speaker 2: that those ones are okay. And I mean, I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful that they're catching things early. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: think Cynthia, all of us know regardless, Like the reason

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Speaker 2: I share this is one, get your skin check. No

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Speaker 2: matter what. We're not doctors. People ask me what do

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Speaker 2: the spots look like? We don't know, but I think

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Speaker 2: no matter what it is that we're going through. Like

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Speaker 2: even I posted about it today and Drew made a comment,

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Speaker 2: she just said, you know, thank you for being honest

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Speaker 2: about feeling like sometimes life just feels like it keeps

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Speaker 2: throwing you hit. It's like hit after hit after hit

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Speaker 2: after hit, but you still have to persevere and you

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Speaker 2: can still fight and we're still worth it. And I

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Speaker 2: think that gets lost sometimes on this pod because you know,

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Speaker 2: we can be shady and listen in three minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: I will be, but there is that you have to

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Speaker 2: turn yourself on. We're here to entertain you, guys, We're

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Speaker 2: not here so yes, we want to help change. You know,

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Speaker 2: if one person got checked after listening to this pod,

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Speaker 2: I feel grateful, but like you don't want to sit

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Speaker 2: here and listen to our SOB stories for the entire hour,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, yes, we want to give you the information,

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Speaker 2: but like no, so now we're gonna have to switch

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Speaker 2: gears and talk a little shit and get into it.

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Speaker 2: But like something that kind of hit me and I

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Speaker 2: know I'm talking a lot Cynthia and then I'll be well,

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Speaker 2: but like something that really resonated with me today is

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Speaker 2: a lot of people commented, I think it might be

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Speaker 2: some of the toxicity you have in your life in

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Speaker 2: regards to talking about drama or being a part of

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Speaker 2: the podcast and doing all these things, And like, I

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Speaker 2: just also want people to hear the other side, Like

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Speaker 2: do you know how stressed I would be if I

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Speaker 2: made zero money?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Do you know how stressed I would be if I

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Speaker 2: didn't have these relationships with people like Cynthia or Tamera

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Speaker 2: or all the other women in my life that are

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Speaker 2: are fighters as well. And we work really hard to

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Speaker 2: do this, so it doesn't matter whether we talk shit

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Speaker 2: we're supporting our families and we're doing what we got

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Speaker 2: time that I get to share with you guys, because

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Speaker 2: at least for this For I may be talking shade

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Speaker 2: for ninety percent of it, but for this little bit

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Speaker 2: worth it, because somebody is going to go to the doctor,

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Speaker 2: somebody is going to get checked. And these relationships to

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Speaker 2: me with the listeners and all with Cynthia, with Tamra,

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Speaker 2: with all of our guests, like it means something to

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Speaker 2: me and I am grateful for it. So I just

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Speaker 1: Can I just say something, I just want to say Teddy,

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Speaker 1: First of all, we love you, Okay. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: sharing this journey because I've learned a lot about what

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Speaker 1: you're going through just from you actually sharing this with

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Speaker 1: the world, and we are praying for you and we

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Speaker 1: are rooting for you. Okay. I just recently had a

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Speaker 1: women's health and wellness retreat in LA and what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about is exactly why I started this retreat. You know,

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Speaker 1: we are boss women who work, who need to work,

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Speaker 1: who are surrounded by the other boss women who sometimes

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Speaker 1: don't pour enough into themselves take the time to focus

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Speaker 1: and take care of themselves, and you know it's so

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Speaker 1: important to get check ups it's so important to share

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Speaker 1: information with other women and other people as things happen

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Speaker 1: to us in our lives. You're human, you are human.

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Speaker 1: You're so strong. You want the strongest women that I know.

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Speaker 1: And for anyone to say anything negative to you in

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Speaker 1: this space that you're trying to share this journey and

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Speaker 1: is just violent. Like, honestly, that's the only word word

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Speaker 1: positive and know that you are surrounded by a lot

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Speaker 1: of love and we are rooting for you and you

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Speaker 1: are going to get on the other side of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. And you know, I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that like that we do have this out, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there is a lot of shade and there is those things,

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Speaker 2: but we get to watch television shows and recap it

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Speaker 2: as a job, like that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: We're just commenting on what everybody else is choosing to

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Speaker 2: Like I'm like, you know, even when we say what

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Speaker 2: And you're like, I'm exhausted because I went to New

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Speaker 2: York Fashion. Yes, it's all work for us, but like

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Speaker 2: things that you can do. Some of them aren't going

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Speaker 2: to always feel the best. Like there are days that

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Speaker 2: I finished work and I'm like, oh, that didn't feel

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Speaker 2: But like, in order to succeed, we have to fight.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, stay in the fight.

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Speaker 2: Stay in a fight, because we're all worth it and

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Speaker 2: you're not alone. It doesn't have to mean that you

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Speaker 2: have a melanoma spot or you're going through divorce, or

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Speaker 2: you have this or whatever it may be. As individuals,

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Speaker 2: like we are going to have highs and lows and

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Speaker 3: Me, speaking of hot mess hot mess, I'm a little

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Speaker 3: upset because I saw on Virtual Reality that you don't

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Speaker 3: see a Housewives return and your life at this point,

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Speaker 3: like this is your quote, Like I just don't have

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Speaker 3: anything else left.

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Speaker 2: To give you guys. I disagree. I want you back.

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Speaker 2: I don't appreciate that kind of negativity about you not

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Speaker 2: having it else to get Okay.

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Speaker 1: You know I always say ever say never, but honestly, Teddy,

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Speaker 1: I can say not. Right now. I'm actually really happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy in the space that I'm in. You know,

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Speaker 1: I get to pop in and out when I want to.

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Speaker 1: I still get to see you guys all the time.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of my friends, I have organic friendships

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Speaker 1: You know, I have sneaking around on dates, not trying

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Speaker 2: Are you dating more in Atlanta or La?

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say Atlanta Atlanta right now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: A couple of guys, Okay, that's it. In Atlanta, La.

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Speaker 1: I did go on a date with someone a while back,

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Speaker 1: just wasn't any real chemistry. Super nice guy. You know.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm looking for my person. I'm not

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not concerned with a serious relationship right now.

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Speaker 1: of a lot of fun trying to find this.

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Speaker 2: Person, trying to find the right one. Well, I have

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Speaker 2: a question. If you go on a date and you

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Speaker 2: don't really feel like there's a chemistry, but he reached

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Speaker 2: in for a kiss at the end, what would you do? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it.

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Speaker 1: Depends on how much I had to drink on the date.

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Speaker 1: It was a non alcoholic date.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna kiss.

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Speaker 1: If some tequila was involved. They may get a kiss,

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Speaker 1: but maybe not any tongue action.

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Speaker 2: Maybe minimal tongue, just like a little lizard a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I remember, I mean, I still remember my first kiss.

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Speaker 2: It was at the movie theater, which is such a

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Speaker 2: weird place to kiss in high school, Like why did

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Speaker 2: we all go to the movie theater to make out?

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Speaker 1: But as it was dark in there and you didn't

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Speaker 2: But I remember he had just had Reese's peanut butter cups.

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Speaker 2: And so my first kiss of life, like with a

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Speaker 2: you know, not a parent, not at my first like

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Speaker 2: still ingrained in my mind to the end of time,

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Speaker 2: this peanut butter kiss. So I'm very particular about a

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Speaker 2: first kiss with somebody and if it has any kind

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Speaker 2: of taste or smell that isn't just.

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Speaker 1: Copa setic you We're not the chocolate to his peanut butter.

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Speaker 1: You guys would didn't make a Reca's come together, No,

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Speaker 1: we did that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you should have chosen a different kid,

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Speaker 2: Sour Patch kids. I maybe could have rolled with.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I hear you. Look, I'm gonna kisser.

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Speaker 1: I love it. There's nothing like a good kiss. And

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Speaker 1: I actually believe that a bad kiss is almost a

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Speaker 1: Which I didn't bite sudden to come on the show.

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Speaker 2: We're not We're not all going to be painting each

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Speaker 1: But I did ask as I was told to do,

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Speaker 2: Every once in a while, just I'll send a little text,

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Speaker 1: Stay on her ass about this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna say, you know what, here's the thing about me.

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Speaker 2: Kim Zulziak.

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Speaker 2: She is set to join the eighth season of MTV's

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Speaker 2: puts celebrities together in a house and given group activities

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00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: to accomplish things together. Okay, knowing that Kim never even

436
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: really went on cast trips, how do you think she's

437
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: going to do locked up in a house the other

438
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: people it's not even women.

439
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, hopefully there won't be a cast trip,

440
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: so they'll just take that out of the equation. We'll

441
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: just get to hang out in the house. I don't

442
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: know how it works, but I will say, you know,

443
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: Kim needs to get back to work, like, you know,

444
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: all her you know, businesses have been out there. You know,

445
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: she's obviously going through a divorce. She's obviously going through

446
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: some financial issues and stuff like that. I've been down

447
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: that road divorce and financial issues some at the same time,

448
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: so I completely relate to what's happening, you know. So

449
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm really glad to see her just getting back on

450
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: TV and just put herself back out there. It's it's

451
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: not fun to watch people go through that stuff. At

452
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: the end of the day, regardless of you know, what's

453
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: happening with her. She's great TV. She's a great TV

454
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: and I think she's perfect for a show like this.

455
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: Oh perfect. All right, Well then I'm gonna need to

456
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: tune in. Let's take a little break, and then we're

457
00:23:53,800 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: gonna come back and talk all things Orange County Real

458
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County. Best moments from you guys. The

459
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: first one is Jen asked if she can hear what's

460
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: in the vault in regards to Shannon. She said Shannon

461
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: says that when she and John first got together, they

462
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: spent every day together, but now there's always an excuse.

463
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: John continuously walks out on arguments. Okay, do you feel

464
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: like Shannon's being fully transparent now or is there more

465
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: in the vault?

466
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: No? I do not feel like Shannon's being fully transparent.

467
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: I think she's brick rumming us the whole way here.

468
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: Get a little bit more information every episode about what's

469
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: going on in that relationship.

470
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean, she barely even gave us any spare change

471
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: from the bottom of her purse, Like I was, like,

472
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: John leaves after they are you.

473
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Speaker 1: Know shit, Okay, let's talk about the ball. I think

474
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: there needs to be an episode where the girl go

475
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 1: in and just clean out this damn vault. Already. I

476
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: want to know what's in there, and I want it

477
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: out on this show. I am so sick of hearing

478
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: about how do you have a whole reality show and

479
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: everything gets to stand the vault?

480
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: Like, how does that happen? It's also I would have

481
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: a vault. Nobody's respected my vault. Ever, It's like, I

482
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: think the.

483
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Vault should not be a thing. I think if her

484
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: butt is on a reality show, I can't they're the vault.

485
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: The vault has to go away. And John just really

486
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: quickly about John. So Noel is like studying to be Noel.

487
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: My daughter is sending to me a therapist, right, so

488
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: she's always telling me about all these different things and

489
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: what they mean. Right. So I was just thinking about John. Uh,

490
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: and not that I'm a therapist, but you know, Noel

491
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: was in training to be one. But she was saying

492
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: how she was dating this guy that had an avoided

493
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: attachment style, which means they're just not comfortable like talking

494
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: about their feelings and whatever whatever. So I was like,

495
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: maybe just maybe this is what's happening. But John, maybe

496
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: he just doesn't want to show his emotions and feelings.

497
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out,

498
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: which is why Shanna, you gotta give us a little

499
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: bit more to work with. I cannot have my child

500
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: try to diagnose it. Help me diagnose what's happening now.

501
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: No, well, I'm I so whatever. This is gonna sound

502
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: very healthy. But whenever I'm really stressed, I like to

503
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: watch murder shows. So, oh my gosh, you have to watch.

504
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: It's on Paramount Plus. Yes, I splurge an additional five

505
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: ninety nine a month for another streaming network. Just hand

506
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: over my money. Make it a rain over to Paramount Plus.

507
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: To watch the Fatal Attraction television show remake.

508
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am so on it like a pig.

509
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: As soon as I get done.

510
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: With this, it's so good. So it's gonna make me

511
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: overuse words like, you know, like our favor or gaslight,

512
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: or like narcissism or any of these types of things.

513
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: But as I was watching it, you can see there

514
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: are from Fatal Attraction. The scripted television series told me

515
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: is that when you have a narcissistic parent, you crave

516
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: that like love and attention from the person that you

517
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: end up with.

518
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Yes.

519
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Yes, So now I want to like go back and

520
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: research Shannon's family, Like I need to know every crumb

521
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: of her parents Like this, I'm like, what, because there

522
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: there is you. You watch people's picker and if they

523
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: keep picking the same then you're like, is it your

524
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: upbringing or is it just your choice? Or either way?

525
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: I agree? I agree with your daughter. There's a lot

526
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: to really break down here, which I think will get

527
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: more into it once we get into like the bathing

528
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: suit aspect of what Shannon was going through on this

529
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: trip they go on. But then this part, Shannon asked

530
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Tamra if it is okay to use her daughter's purse.

531
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: Tarmra says, as long as it's not like Jen's fake

532
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Chanel purse. Tamra says that Jen was a yoga mom

533
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden she's covered in fake

534
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: designer clothes. Do you carry their way? Like? Have you

535
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: ever bought a knockoff product? Do you judge people that do?

536
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I truly can't tell if something's from Amazon

537
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 2: or Target, let alone fake Schanel. So I don't know

538
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: the only.

539
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Way I will have a burken bag is this is

540
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: if it's a fake one, because I'm never gonna pay

541
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: the money that it costs to good real one.

542
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: But would you actually carry the fake one? What say?

543
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

544
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: Oh, well I can give you one of those. I know, right,

545
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: where do you get up? Yeah?

546
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Hook me up? Well, you know what, I lived in

547
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: New York, you know, we Connect Street. They had all

548
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: the fig stuff, and look, you gotta start somewhere. If

549
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: you can't afford the real stuff, you start with the

550
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: fake stuff until you can afford the real stuff. And

551
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: then if it's a good fake, you can kind of

552
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: mix it all up, you know, don't just I you know,

553
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I would give my like fake stuff to like my

554
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: mom whatever. After Yeah, it was able to afford the

555
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: good stuff, But don't sleep on a good fake.

556
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Do not question? Would you admit?

557
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: So?

558
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: For example, like the other day, I went out to

559
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: like this tea party event. I wore I like an

560
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: a fairly expensive dress, a nice bag, and my shoes

561
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: were Amazon Botega Venetta Dupes. I linked my shoes because

562
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: there were twenty five dollars. But I made it clear

563
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to pretend these are the real deal. Right,

564
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: do you think that when somebody wears fake, they need

565
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: to do that or is that just my own? Like

566
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm the same way about like having my necklace, Like

567
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: I'm like I have to give people all the information

568
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: because I don't want to feel like I'm a fraud.

569
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: I think if you're on a TV show where you

570
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: have shady bitches that are going to actually an a

571
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: I think you might want to come in with that.

572
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: I think if you wait to let me say it again,

573
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: if you're on show where you have shady bitches analyzing

574
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: everything that you're wearing, I think you might want to

575
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: come in with that disclaimer already. Like, look, I know

576
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: the sweatshirt is fat. I mean you need to come

577
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: in up, just come in out of the gate and

578
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: own it. I know my sweatshirt is fake, but hey,

579
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm loving it.

580
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: It's mine, it's cute.

581
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I can afford the real But here's the thing. You

582
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: know you can some people can afford the real stuff.

583
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out here wearing fake stuff

584
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: who are rich people, and we would never question them

585
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: because they can actually afford it.

586
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I buy fake cheap. I don't know

587
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: if they're fake dupes. It's different. The dupes do not

588
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: there's a difference between dupes and fake. Like my I

589
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: don't wear anything with logos, Like this is not fake

590
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: because it has an actual logo. But if something has

591
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: the same aesthetic and I can find it on Amazon

592
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: for cheaper and it's a sandal that I'm gonna get

593
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: wet and ruin for, damn sure, I'm happy to wear it.

594
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: But if it has a logo, that's kind of where

595
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to necessarily wear the logo.

596
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm cool to just that's true. If it has the logo,

597
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I think you have to stand on it a little

598
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: stronger because you know those air Miss sandals that everybody wears,

599
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: a little flatmos like a little.

600
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Ages with the age. Yeah, that always falls.

601
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Off the Steam Madden version of it. I can't tell

602
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: the damn difference. I can tell the difference. No one's

603
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: ever questioning the no one's ever questioned them, no one's

604
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: ever asked me about those. So I will just keep

605
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: wearing those until somebody calls me out on those. But

606
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: they don't have the logo on them, but they look.

607
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's the I think the general rule.

608
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: But if you're wearing head to toe logos. That's where

609
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: it gets a little iffy for me. Yeah, hedge to

610
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: toe logos if the logos are fake and they don't

611
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: match up, like, I notice it now because after like

612
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: the Balenciaga scandal, then I started noticing when people were

613
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: in fake I didn't actually notice. Bloggers would post it

614
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: and then I would see it and I'd be like, oh,

615
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: who would know? But it is. I feel like it's

616
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: foreshadowing to something else, just like that, there's not full transparency.

617
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: But who on Atlanta War fake and who were real?

618
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

619
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: I'd know that you just dodged another question sent I.

620
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Mean again, I don't know the difference. I just know

621
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody came on the show being able

622
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: to afford. I just thought everyone that was on the

623
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: show probably didn't come on being able to afford everything

624
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: they were rocking. So I'm just owning my shit. I

625
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: know I am the knockof Queen. Thank God. I think

626
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I can pull most things off. I kind of stand

627
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: a safe fashion lane. Just keep it to the basics

628
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: and wear a lot of black. It's hard to clock black,

629
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: It's hard, that's true. Hello, no way logos there you go, okay, black,

630
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: all right? But then and you know, the editing is

631
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: always so shady because they showed jin and with like

632
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: some cape on was it Belinciaga?

633
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was like oh but with like a

634
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: turtleneck that's also matching underneath, and like forty two other

635
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: things like also, I don't know, but I just feel

636
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: like there's something I don't know. I feel like you

637
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: have to take the piss out of yourself at some point.

638
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a British saying or whatever,

639
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: but like you have to be like, how cute is

640
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: this knockoff? Like you have? If you're gonna go for it,

641
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: you have to go for it, but ow it own it.

642
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: But I do need to know before they go on

643
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: this trip. It didn't go unnoticed to me that Tamra

644
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: picked the best body type for her fake swimsuit. Like

645
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: she was ripped in her swimsuit, like the ones with

646
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: all the hair and the tents and the body. I

647
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: was like, tam you picked yourself a good one.

648
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Listen, TAM's not a slow bird, Okay, she definitely this

649
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: is not her first rodeo. I think when those when

650
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: those swimsuits were presented, I'm sure I went right to

651
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: the best. One is not a fool, Okay, she's not.

652
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: She's well, she just posted a picture. When you first

653
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: started to like scroll on Instagram, I was like, Dan,

654
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Jam's ripped. I'm like, that's exactly.

655
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that Tammar didn't go for the moment

656
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: with the hairy.

657
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Chance, but I wanted to like tap the link to

658
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: shop on that one because I was like, she got

659
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: a six pack. Okay, So they're on the trip. Vicky

660
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: knocks on the door and surprises Tamar and Shannon. Shannon says,

661
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: having the Trace and me gets back together is everything.

662
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: Then Gina calls him the trace Abuelas, which is Grandma's.

663
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: I have to say, if I opened the door and

664
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: Vicky screamed like that, I would appeed myself to I.

665
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Know, did someone peed himself? So yeah, it will come

666
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: out right.

667
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: Like that was. I was like, ship, I'm not even there,

668
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: and I felt like my pets got sweaty.

669
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Hilarious. I think Vicky was a nice if anything. You know,

670
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: first of all, Vicky is a good time and she's

671
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: always like, you know, she's always seems like a fun

672
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: one to throw it throw in on a girl's trip,

673
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: and a nice distraction for I would say, I don't

674
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: know how happy I was, but I know Heather was

675
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: probably very happy. She's like it was a fun distraction

676
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: away from her because you know, they've just been on her.

677
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. I'm sure Heather was like,

678
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, Victoria, give me a break, come

679
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: in and try to get your freaking orange backed.

680
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: No, Heather probably flew in on her private plane, but.

681
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? She just hung from like for the propeller,

682
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: like on the side.

683
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about that. I was like, I

684
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: love Vicky, but I'm sure Heather is loving her even

685
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: more than I am at this point, just for showing

686
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: up and distracting, you know, taking the heat off of

687
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: her a little bit, because they are just on this Heather.

688
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Heather earlier in the day, Heather said

689
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: that Emily looked like a snuffle up a gus in

690
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: a good way. Okay, just just to be clear, because

691
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: I had to I got platypus and snuffle up a

692
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: gas confused, so I had to just uhalous, snuffle up

693
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: a gush. Snuffle up, I guess.

694
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: Snuffle up a gus.

695
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, snuffle up, I guess it's a hairy elephant

696
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: where a platypus is like those long like my nails,

697
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: like after I bite them, they look like platypuses sometimes

698
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: because they like got it. So I had to google.

699
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: I also had to ask.

700
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Just so I could just know exactly what it because

701
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: I said it was like a big hairy elephant.

702
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: It's from It's from Sesame Street. Yes, yes, essentially, I necessarily,

703
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: I probably don't necessarily want to be compared to any

704
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: of the muppets. Like one of my best friends, like

705
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: her husband, whenever he's in a bad mood, we call

706
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: him Kermit, and like he always I don't know, but

707
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: he's always like, I don't want to be Kermit. I'm like, well,

708
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: then don't be so crouchy.

709
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: Well I will. What I did notice in my Google

710
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: research is that the snuff is and I'm still saying.

711
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: It wrong, but the stuff.

712
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: The snuff guy, the snuff Muffet, is by far the

713
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: most unattractive one in the in the bunch for sure.

714
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: Well he's a big, hairy elephant.

715
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way, even as a joke at this

716
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: point that you could that it'd be a complimens.

717
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, how would you react to be calling to

718
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: be called a snuffle up?

719
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: I guess not well, not well.

720
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: But even when you see Emily, try to like have

721
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: that conversation later, Heather's like.

722
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I m hmm. You look at this thing and like

723
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: you can't say, well, it has a long thing, but

724
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: it has cute eyes. Oh what has this? But has

725
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: nice hair? There's nothing about this character that is attractive.

726
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: Like if you want to compare me to like a

727
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: golden retriever, great, like you're so sweet and loving and kind.

728
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: Granted most people wouldn't. They'd be like, she's like a chihuahuah.

729
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm a part of the birds family. I know I

730
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: look like an ostrich you know what I mean. I

731
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: know that I own that. But don't try to give

732
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: me another animal that I'm not. Don't call me big

733
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: bird exactly, but it's still in the bird family. Don't

734
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: just over to the like the seals and the warricks

735
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because that's not my I know

736
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: my family.

737
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: So well, you're lucky to be tall. I'm more squished

738
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: into the smaller, shorter, more annoying insect family group. But

739
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Emily like gave it. She let her

740
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 2: have it, like kay, like she just let her like Okay, yeah,

741
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: you're not going to take any accountability for this, so

742
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: we're just going to keep it moving. But then then

743
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: we get to what was that lunch or dinner where

744
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: they do the like truth or Dare? Oh yeah, it

745
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: was dinner, So they do truth or Dare and Vicky

746
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: tells Jen that they so Jen draws Vicky or whatever happens,

747
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: and she says, uh, truth or dare and Vicky truth

748
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: chooses truth, and then Jen goes, oh, shoot, well then

749
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: somebody else should ask you because I don't know you that well,

750
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: which I thought was a normal way to handle it.

751
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: But then Vicky chose this moment to go over to

752
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: freaking Trader Joe's and grab her orange, rip it out

753
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: of the thing, put it on the scale, and pay

754
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: for it. She's like, evolution and I can still stirt.

755
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna strict when I know it or not.

756
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: And she says with her fifty nine cent orange that

757
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: she's put in her pocket that she's just purchased you know,

758
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: I've gone through a situation where I love a man

759
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: who may not be the right man or love me back,

760
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: or be the right person, and so have you. That's true.

761
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: There, I don't want to play this game, like listen,

762
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I think Vicky actually meant well,

763
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: and it was a moment.

764
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: You know you have to graduate, please, She did not

765
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: mean well.

766
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I do think she because it's true.

767
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: She has you know, she could relate to the situation.

768
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: The problem is she doesn't know Ryan or the.

769
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: Situation so clear.

770
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: How were you speaking on something that you have no

771
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: knowledge or of secondhand knowledge at best, which we all

772
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: figured out. I was not easy to figure out. It

773
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: came from Tamra to have this moment. With this moment,

774
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: it's like me picking up my phone and called and said, hey,

775
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, because I've been doing too Hey, no, you

776
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: don't really know me, but I do a podcast with

777
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Teddy millencare talk about you all the time. I just

778
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: felt like I needed to pick up the phone and

779
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: call you and tell you that, you know, I've also

780
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: been in similar situation and I'm just gonna I'm here

781
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: to just break your whole little situation down like that

782
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like I actually had more right to call

783
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: this woman who I've never met, Jen and talk to them,

784
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: talk to her. I actually had more right to call

785
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Jen than VICKI did to bring it up at the

786
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: tooth of Deer.

787
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: Police are publicly talking about it.

788
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: At least, I feel like I know Ryan. I've never

789
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: met him, but I feel like I talk about his jackets,

790
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: like I feel like I know Vicky wouldn't be able

791
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: to pick this guy out of a lineup. I'm more invested.

792
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: So how the hell is Vicky gonna go and bring

793
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: this up again? Well, how the hell is Bicky gonna

794
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: come show up to the trip that she you know,

795
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: whoever invited her to Tamfrid's Termer's trip of course. Okay, okay,

796
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: and take this moment, this fun moment. How do we

797
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: go from licking nipples face to never back to Jen

798
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: and Ryan?

799
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I hear just then it really escalates from here, shocking

800
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: term of events, Yeah it does. Oh gosh, I haven't

801
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: snorted ever on the pod.

802
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: That's when I like, really, I can't crying, like.

803
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: I've now I've cried twice on the pod. Now people

804
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: are gonna come for me, cry baby all the things.

805
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: But then it's like you start to see like everyone's

806
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: rage is forming, like Victoria has brought the rage. But

807
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: then also the best is like they panned to the

808
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: confessional where Vicky's like, yeah, obviously it starts with the

809
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: t and ends with an amor told me or whatever

810
00:43:53,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: the hell she said, and then Taram was like, yeah, so.

811
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Is the orange in my hand? Anyways, anybody wants to

812
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: vite delicious? Okay, then we get to.

813
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, this is where things Okay. Also, we do

814
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: need to take note that they tried to burn down

815
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: the hotel and then Taylor had to put the candle

816
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: in the champagne ice and then take all the candle wax.

817
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Like all this is happening post shit's going down, I'm like,

818
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: what the hell am I watching here? But somehow Taylor's

819
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: keeping it together. But then the next day, apparently because

820
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: Taylor was on her like she wasn't a post Craig's night,

821
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: she's able to retain information on this current time. She

822
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: shares that Shannon got very emotional the night before because

823
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: she is insecure of her body. Shannon thinks that she

824
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: will be left out of the group if she can't

825
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: wear a swimsuit. Shannon thinks she will be more objectified

826
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: for putting on weight because she used to be very thin.

827
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Emily thinks that John is very critical of her. What

828
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this? Do you think that Shannon

829
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: has the same insecurities that most people have or do

830
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: you think that John amplifies those insecurities the way he's

831
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: like rumored to speak off camera.

832
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: I think us as women, we all have insecurities. Most

833
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: of us have insecurities when it comes to our body.

834
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us go up and down

835
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: or our weight, and obviously everyone feels a little more

836
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: secure when they are at a weight that they want

837
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: to be at. So that's like nothing, you know, that's

838
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: that's all of us. You know, Shannon's exclusive and feeling that,

839
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: But in terms of how John makes her feel, I

840
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: don't really know what he said off camera. I don't

841
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: know if he said something that's in the ball whatever. Yeah,

842
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I just know just watching watch sh trying.

843
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: To lay laugh there For me, I don't know why

844
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: it took me a second.

845
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: Because I was like, I don't know what he said.

846
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe it's in the bolt. I don't know,

847
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: but from what I can tell, just from how Shannon is,

848
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: I definitely for me, it's always Shannon, just any mention

849
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: of his name, just feeling this anxiety and this just uncomfortable.

850
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: This relationship just makes me. I just haven't gotten comfortable

851
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: with them yet because they haven't allowed me to be comfortable.

852
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Because yeah, like anytime his name comes up, it just

853
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: ends up like where's the exit? And I don't know,

854
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, has he said something about her weight?

855
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, here's the thing. And I'm

856
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: somebody who has gone up and weight and down and

857
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: weeight my entire life and struggled with kind of figuring

858
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: out where I'm the most comfortable, and like I would

859
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: be bold face lying to you if I said that

860
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: I didn't care what people said about my weight, whether

861
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: it's I'm too skinny, or I'm too big, or I'm

862
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: too this, I'm too that, all of it weighs into it.

863
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's like about like the

864
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: time in which we where I kind of grew up

865
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: where people were more comfortable to say things. So I

866
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: grew up and you know, I grew up in a

867
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: sport where you needed to be a certain aesthetic riding horses,

868
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: and you're wearing these skin tight tan breeches, and anytime

869
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: I would gain a couple ounces, people would comment, and

870
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: so like, I understand all of those insecurities. And something

871
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: I learned when I went on Beverly Hills that I

872
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: would always say to the women was like we would

873
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: we would go to a water feature and nobody would

874
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: get in or nobody would do anything. And I'm like,

875
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: this was off camera stuff, but I would say, like, guys,

876
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: none of us feel good one hundred percent right now

877
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: in our bodies, none of us. But we're all humans

878
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: and we have to get in the water. It makes

879
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: absolutely no sense for seven of us or ten of

880
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: us to sit here covered up on these chairs fighting

881
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: like we have to live a little right, right. So

882
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: I think that that is there is a message all

883
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: of us, no matter how amazing that other people may

884
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: think that we look, or how you know, the terrible

885
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: things we may hear people say about us, like we

886
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: all have those things. But Emily did say in her

887
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: confessional that John called Shannon fat. I don't like that,

888
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: and I don't like that either, and if Edwin called

889
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: me that, especially with all my past struggles. I would

890
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: really have a hard time probably being in a bathing

891
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: suit around him too.

892
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if I was fat and any of my

893
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: exes called me fat, it would be an issue for me.

894
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that is that's just

895
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: not nice. That's not nice. Like we know, like I

896
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: gained a lot of weight over the pandemic, like most

897
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: like everyone else, and I finally I'm at a weight

898
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, I like to you know, have a little

899
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: wiggle room and lose maybe maybe five more panels. But

900
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm finally at a weight where I still have my curves,

901
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: but I'm at a comfortable weight where I feel good

902
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: in my clothes. I feel good, you know, the way

903
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: I look in real life and on TV as well,

904
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of this is you know,

905
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: for us, you know, and our regular lives is one thing,

906
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: but on TV, you know, we're just whole, We're just

907
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, on.

908
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: TV, we're just like dart boards.

909
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Is that a double chin? I see? Yeah? And it's

910
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: like I still don't like to turn the profile, you know,

911
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: I see it.

912
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be so, I mean, that's why

913
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: I got my cut off.

914
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: Well, I need your doctor because I'm like, I've lost weight,

915
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 1: but I'm like it's still trying to hang in there.

916
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: A little some muscle. I know well that it's.

917
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: We got to talk about that. But you know, I

918
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, I understand that insecurity and us

919
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: being on TV kind of makes it worse because we

920
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: you know, in real life, people don't get to get

921
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: picked if they are up or down. We both we

922
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: all go up and down with.

923
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: Our we all go up and down. And here's the thing, Shannon,

924
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: if you're with your person, they are gonna love you

925
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: through it and try to bring you to be your

926
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: best self and not wait wise, but like to feeling

927
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: your best and making you feel sexy and making you

928
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: feel beautiful, and you are you are those things. But

929
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: if you don't believe it, it doesn't matter what anybody else says.

930
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: That's true.

931
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: It definitely sts And I think we all have our

932
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: own insecurities. Weirdly, I'm more comfortable like in a bathing

933
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: suit than I am in like certain like a pair

934
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: of jeans. You've never seen a more uncomfortable human like

935
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: I have sensory issues, so like, oh no, I cannot

936
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: like it really I feel like I look like SpongeBob

937
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: square pants. I have so many issues in geens like you,

938
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: very rarely do you see me in jeans. It's like

939
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: it's a weird thing. And my pose like this, my

940
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: teapop pose is because from so many years of having

941
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: like a super heavy arm, that I learned if I

942
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: posed like this that it looked thinner. And now I

943
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: can't stop. I've been doing it since I was twelve

944
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: years old. Like it's just they ingrained. These are certain things,

945
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: you know.

946
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I think over the past couple of years,

947
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: my back has gotten wider. I feel like I'm a

948
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: little broad.

949
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: Than I used to be.

950
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, when did it become? Like when it

951
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: becomes so broad? And I feel like my neck has

952
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: actually gotten suspiciously shorter as well as well. They call

953
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: it technic technic oh, and I am low key starting

954
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: to get that little nick huk.

955
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: I know me too.

956
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Noticed it. I ordered a pillow off Instagram.

957
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't I tried it. It doesn't work. No, I

958
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: hate to be the bear of bad news. You're seventeen

959
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: ninety nine, just went to shit. But then we get

960
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: into to kind of close out this episode is Alex,

961
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: the girl who previously dated Ryan, told Jen that Tamar

962
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: reached out to her and told her to send her everything.

963
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: Tamra says Alex and Ryan have been hooking up for

964
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: a year during Jen and Ryan's relationship. Jen says it

965
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: was once and they were on a break, and then

966
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Ryan sent Alex a text message while he and Jen

967
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: were together, saying I want to see you naked in bed.

968
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: And then Jen says she knows she's seen it. She

969
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: says she forgave Ryan because she loves him. Tamra tells

970
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: Jen she left for a player and she wasn't the

971
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: only girl Ryan slept with. At this point, Okay, that's

972
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: a lot to unpack in one situation. What we've learned

973
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: is ain't no one being honest in this situation. I mean, yes,

974
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: Tamra is calling out the facts. I don't know if

975
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: it's necessary at this point, Like we already all have

976
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: enough doubt in Ryan, but this is the first time

977
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: we catched Jen in an actual lie.

978
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, now what was so breaking.

979
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: Because she had always said that we were on a break. Yes,

980
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: we were on a break, But then at this point

981
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: we hear that Ryan sent Alex a text message while

982
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: he and Jen were together, and Jim saying I want

983
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: to see you naked in bed, and she says, I know,

984
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: I've seen it, which means if you're together in bed,

985
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're together and someone sends another message,

986
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: I want to see you naked in bed. Yes, whether

987
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: you're split up or not, you're not a.

988
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

989
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't believe in breaks, but if you're on a break,

990
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: you ain't laying together or you're not at a concert together,

991
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: at least for me exactly.

992
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. This is where I'm at with this

993
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: whole thing with Jen and Ryan. I'm done, Okay, we

994
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: have I am. I want. All I want in life

995
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: is for Jen and Brian to get married. And I

996
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: just want to watch this theme play out because at

997
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: this point, she has seen text, she has been forewarned,

998
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: she has seen text, she has been forewarned about him,

999
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: everybody seeing, everybody on the planet seemed to think he's

1000
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: a player of whatever, and she wants to be with him.

1001
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: She's in love with him, and I.

1002
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: Alsough, we've now heard rumors which allegedly she stepped out

1003
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: on her marriage too. Maybe they both just want to

1004
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: freaking go for it. Maybe they're both two hornballs that

1005
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: just want to have fun and they don't give two

1006
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: More power to them, get it and all what you want.

1007
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Listen, kinda, this relationship no longer has to make sense

1008
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: for me. I've unpacked it, I've packed it back up,

1009
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: I've unpacked it again. I am exhausted. All right, I'm

1010
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: here for Gen and Bryan. I'm here for Jen and

1011
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: Ryan at this point wedding. I want them to go

1012
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: through with this, and if it ends up in divorced,

1013
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: it just ends up divorced. At this point, I'm actually

1014
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: all gotten them.

1015
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: You've had two, I've had one. Tras had two. I

1016
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: think I don't know go through it. Everybody's had divorces.

1017
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: Let Jen ride the strain all the way to the

1018
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: last stop. Just let live and ride it out.

1019
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: You know what this kind of feels like. You know

1020
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: when you stay at like a holiday inn or like

1021
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: a Best Western, and you've been there over the amount

1022
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: of nights of the underwear that you've packed, so then

1023
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 2: on the last night you got to get the underwear

1024
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: out and wash them in the same see blow dryer. Yeah,

1025
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: that's what this ship feels like. I'm like, I'm done.

1026
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I I can't like talk to me after the reunion.

1027
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: I also, I feel like at this point we need

1028
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: to see Ryan. Ryan, this is our formal invitation to

1029
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: invite you on the pod and if you and also

1030
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: not only did you not send us a jacket after

1031
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: our last thing, which.

1032
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: We were very clear about that that request.

1033
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah we didn't. We didn't like play it cool.

1034
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: We're like being players. We were straight out we want

1035
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: a jacket. And now we want you on the pod

1036
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: because I need to see if you're actually funny, if I.

1037
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: Like you I think he is. Come on, all right,

1038
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: come and hang out with us on the pod.

1039
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: All right, Ryan, come on, let's we'll grill the ship

1040
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: out of you and SKA.

1041
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: We'll put this whole thing to rest. You. Come on

1042
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: the pod. We will have nothing else to say about

1043
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: you after we unpack everything properly.

1044
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: Until next season.

1045
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Or the renion.

1046
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you for joining us

1047
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: for another episode of two Teas in a Pod. We

1048
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: really appreciate you, guys. Cynthia. I mean, I love you

1049
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: so much. I have so much fun with you, and

1050
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: you gave me my official first snort of the pod,

1051
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: and I am forever grateful.

1052
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah me, Teddy snort. Well, I'm glad because I know

1053
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: you're going through a lot, Teddy, and I'm so glad

1054
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: that I can make you laugh until tears stay down

1055
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: your face today.

1056
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: I had to be honest. When we got on and

1057
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: your voice was hoarse, I was like, oh no, you

1058
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: better bring it right now because I am in no

1059
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: mental capacity to freaking take this on my own.

1060
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not doing any heavy lifting today.

1061
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw out a couple of softballs and that's

1062
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: what I got to give today. And then you come

1063
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: back and you're like, you're like, hold on, I'm big, Ruth.

1064
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: I got your baby, I got your bag, I got

1065
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: your bed. What already knew you needed me to step

1066
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: up today, and I was happy to step up to

1067
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: the plate.

1068
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: Boys, I love you, love you. Thank you so much, sir.

1069
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm praying for you. You are good. Please keep me posted.

1070
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I well, thank you so much. Bye bye,