WEBVTT - Ep. 023 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:11.600 We all learned a new Lavian word. It's blouch. If 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.560 the lavine is telling the hunting story and they get 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.120 to the part where you'd go like, let's say I'm 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.840 telling the hunt the story, I'm like and he ran 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.119 out across the field, and now I was going blam 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:34.040 blam bam. Lavia would say, I went blouch blouch blouch. Right, honey, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:41.240 with a little bit of k in there. Yanni Van's 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.479 Walls brother Martin who tell us, is with us, another 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:50.240 Lavian speaker, joined by Doug Dern. We'll be Doug. We're 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.440 in Doug's Hall of trophies right now. Doug, will I 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.240 go around the room and introducing everybody else. Can you 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.400 count how many deer are in here? Uh? Brittany Brothers 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.160 just got her third, second and third White Tales of 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:10.720 the season, Helen Chow first white tailed buck ever for her. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.240 And then there's a couple of people are just sitting here, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:25.040 Kevin Biermeyer and Jared faint Um. Back to Blouch, say, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.680 I met Janice and Martin's father over a year ago, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.640 but I visited with him yesterday and he shared a 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.199 story with me where he was talking about why deer 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.960 camp is important, and he said that it was helpful, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:48.000 uh to show it was a health of way to 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:54.800 to um demonstrate different kind of social relationships and and 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.840 social interactions to your son, like you bring your son 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.680 to deer camp and he see e's how people relate 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.480 and how people have traditions. And as you tell me 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:09.200 the story is talking about bringing uh young Yanni to 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.840 a deer camp where someone had a lot of girly 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:22.520 magazines stapled up on the walls alight eight or nine. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:29.600 He said, well, I think he was just trying to 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:34.040 clean the story up. So his dad, so you were, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.320 you were you can hunt it twelve years at fourteen, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.400 So that was my first year with a rifle. And 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.560 I definitely came a few years prior to you that. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.720 So so you were twelve No, I'm saying, I don't know. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.920 I don't know. He was between nine and twelve. And 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:53.840 his father's telling me this story and he says, of 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.000 of young Yanni walking into this room. He says, yeah, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.840 and let me I think it was a it was 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.720 a trailer at that time, because it wasn't at the 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.280 camp that we stay at. We would go and visit 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.280 the neighbors, you know, see whatever it was up to 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:14.240 and the guy but he had a he had a 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.079 lab in American. What do you call it helen? When 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:23.000 it's half Korean half English, can you speak oh conglish. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:30.760 There's there's a lot of like languish language taught going on. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.120 But anyway, so this guy had this nickname like they 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.400 speaking a half lav and half English. Yeah, it's probably 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.480 more like a were doing that earlier today. It was 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:50.120 he yesterday, Harry. Anyways, his nickname was two meals, two meals. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.080 Well that's what it was spawned from because he was 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.320 a big guy and he always eight two meals, and 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.960 so that was combined and his nickname was two meals. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.680 For the longest time, I just thought it was that 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.240 was his last name. I thought his name was Yannest 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.960 two meals. I thought that was his last name too, right, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.960 But actually no, his last name. That is just a 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:16.080 nickname because the dude always eight two meals. Because two 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:20.400 meals is a very Latvian sounding name, right, But yeah, 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.120 what's his last name? Put like the flare on it 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:34.240 um in base that want to get back? Sorry, no, 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:38.279 go ahead, okay, so nickname, No, it is a cool nickname. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:39.760 But now you guys are arguing over what his real 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.120 name was. No, I was just just telling me anyway. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.760 So Yanni's dad's nostalgic, and he says, it's talking about 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.040 Yanni deer Camp and he's explaining Yanni walking into this 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.400 house with all the girly magazines on the wall, and 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:00.800 he goes, I can't remember exactly. He says, uh, this 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.040 was the first time in Yanni's life when he had 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.719 so much pussy laid out before him, and there's a 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:19.440 picture of him right over his head. I love your dad, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.000 and your dad's great. I was just slightly disappointed he 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.800 didn't have an accent, but that's my only I didn't 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.719 think he had an accent. I thought he would have 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:33.680 an accent, an accent. He doesn't have an accent, but 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.479 he loves to do Like at Yanni's wedding, he comes 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.160 out and gives his speech as if he's shows up, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.520 and he goes, I can't really do it real well, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:51.839 but he's like, hello, how everybody doing tonight? My English 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:59.160 not very good. He had a bunch of southerns going 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.479 because they really thought he maybe didn't he was just 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.440 off the boat. YEA, yeah, Well, I think we talked 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.240 about the last time, last time, do you count off 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:14.680 the buck racks in here? Uh, he's too busy taking 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.400 his selfies over there. Good many Helen, can you count 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.839 the buck racks? So last time we were in, last 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.000 time we recorded and here we were talking about the 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.840 buck racks in here. Um, last time we here, we're 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.440 talking about the proximity the Lavian area, the Lavian hunting 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.559 camp area, two dugs place, and we're just here for 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:44.720 to to participate in and and and celebrate the opening 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:51.720 day of Wisconsin's Firearm to Your season. And Yanni's dad 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:57.719 was at with some Latvians eating Lavian rye bread with 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.400 liver worst on it and eating um pet dogs pete 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:08.000 doggins say that ducks ducks And uh, he dropped by 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:13.600 to see us. But we did three days of full 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:22.440 balls with scanny white tail hunting opening day. You guys 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.840 had Helen in Britain. You had never participated in this 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.440 sort of thing. The two when people when it comes 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.160 to the opening day traditions, people bring up people say 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.960 two things. They say that it feels like Christmas and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:43.440 it feels like a war zone. Yes, it feels like Christmas. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.480 Sounds like a war zone. What was your guys, like, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.680 what was your impression? I mean, can you gotta get 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.720 like what the whole opening day deals about? Oh, without 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.760 a doubt. I mean there was a big hullabaloo about 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.640 it the night before. You know, everybody comes into deer camp, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.840 everyone's got their bots and then yeah, I mean we 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.600 got there and even before shooting light we heard doesn't 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:17.880 stop him, right. Some of them they anticipation. There's some 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.040 you know, the Christmas analogy. There's some guys that always peak, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.080 always like to get on the middle of night and peak. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.760 There was a guy. There was a guy, well one 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.240 he was What was unique about the guy that shot 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.679 very early? He was a one shot guy. Most Wisconsin 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:40.680 nights like to clear their magazine before they register about 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.800 whether any of the hits might have hit, because there's 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.160 no way that you could be shooting in red and 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.800 mentally registering the results of the shot as fast as 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.680 what you hear some shooting around here. I wish you 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:59.640 could see I think it would you possibly know if 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.640 any of those shots. I think what you're failing to 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.760 recognize is it's possibly two or three guys standing together 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:15.840 that could be I had yeah, because I had a 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.720 conversation with a with a I'm not gonna name his name, um, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.160 but a man I've come to love over the years 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.080 who just stopped by because people stopped by a lot 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.160 during the opening days of deer season. He stopped by, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.680 and he was saying that the one good, uh, the 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 one nice buck they saw it wasn't big enough to 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:45.440 quote get us out of the truck, which would imply 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.520 if they jumped out, there could have been some bou 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.960 without anyone register what was going on. I'm joking, of course, 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.120 but it's a it's an enormous amount of shooting. I 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:02.160 think Dirk and did. Didn't Dirkin once calculate or he 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:08.640 at least publish this it on open day? Right? A 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:14.559 deer second deer second Wisconsin? That article, Yeah, a second 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.319 deer per second in Wisconsin is the title of that article. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.719 There's hundreds of thousands of deer. How many seconds are in? 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:30.160 How many seconds are in a day? Because you always 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.840 on your your eyes doing a little chores on your phone. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.440 I guess somebody doing that for me over here? Now? No, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.520 and didn't who was it you that brought it up? 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.840 That's the third standing army that is such a bullshit. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.640 It's been going on every year. This is the third 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:53.840 large largest army in the world. A lot of Wisconsin. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.680 There's a deer second. Yeah, no, I'm no, because here's 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.240 the thing, the whole thing like that Wisconsin has the 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.880 largest standing it's like, define a standing army. This is 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.400 not a standing army. It's the third largest. That particularly 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.439 on that particular day's third largest army of people seated 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.760 on buckets and I could possibly rise up in arms 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.720 and then it's always and nobody got hurt. Well, somebody 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.640 always gets hurt. I'm guessing that guy that early shot. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.520 I always wonder how does that happen. It's got to 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.960 be somebody loading a rifle. That's well, that's what we 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.240 thought to accident discharge in the morning. You thought it 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.680 was accidental discharge. Yeah, because it was dark. It was 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.560 twenty minutes before shooting light. I mean, but I think 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.880 the statute, I hope the Statute of Limitations is a 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.079 run out on this because I'm gonna tell, like in 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.480 like in Michigan opening Day. So you guys, Wisconsin does 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.719 a wacky words. You know, you can't tell what it's 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:50.600 gonna happen. Third Saturday, in November. Yeah, they confuse it. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.600 In Michigan. It's just like the same date every year, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:12:00.080 which is ridiculous. Third Saturday means third Saturday, which is 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.400 always the Saturday before Thanksgiving. You always know when dear 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.800 season is, I mean the real dear season. I mean 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.439 that bow hunting thing. Yeah, so in Michigan it's not 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.360 like that. So so out of every seven opening days, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.440 five of them requires you to get out of something. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.520 You know. And when I was in college, I went 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.600 briefly to Lake Speare State and in university and this 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.240 guy had Did I ever tell the story? I think 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:36.400 I was talking about this this guy, this professor had 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.560 this thing you can if you miss certain number of days, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.400 you could never get higher than that. Did I tell 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.600 you this story? I've pretty much heard all your stories, 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:49.960 I think, But tell it anyway. It's just killing me 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.360 that I can't think if I told us or not. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.800 Does this ring a bell? The class I'm talking about, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.080 you haven't told it on the podcast. I've heard it 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.120 before in the thousand times in a blind but not. Okay, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.920 So I'll tell So it's a great story. This guy, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.920 this professor had this rule that once you miss a 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.200 certain number classes. You couldn't get anything better than to see, 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.319 no matter how good you did. And it was a 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.720 speak it was a class. It was like a speaking class. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.880 And um, and I missed all my days and then 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.120 opening day comes up, and like if I go deer 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.560 hunting an opening day, I can't get any better to see. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.560 And I was like, I'm not gonna let this man 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.400 steal this from me, this opening day situation. So we 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.640 drove I it was a morning classes at eight am. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.040 Class drove down to hunt and we're hunting on a guy, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:48.200 UM name Herb Scales place and he'd gotten in some 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.800 trouble with some messing up of wetlands at the time, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.720 so we called him her Beside Scales. But he we 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.720 went up to hunt his place and it was kind 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.080 of getting light out, not really by the time. I 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.360 didn't really know about really the what time. I just 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.760 knew this opening day and you didn't. You're not looking 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.520 at your watch, you're looking at that whether you can 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.560 see that. A deer runs out in front of me 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.000 and stops like aware of me in the darkness, and 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.160 it was so dark. I remember that I got down 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.920 with my cheeks like the ground in order to skylight 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.720 the deer's head, and I could skylight the deer and 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.440 see that it was that it had antlers. Then I 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.160 found its white throat patch and my scope, but it 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.320 was so dark I couldn't see the crosshairs, and I 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.720 just imagined centering the throat patch in the center of 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.680 my scope and blouch. Yeah. I was early for class 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.960 that day. Huh. I didn't even gut it. I drug 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.480 it out of the trail where I knew my brother 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.640 would hit it on his way out of his blind 0:14:55.400 --> 0:15:00.000 and boogie it off and made it the class into 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.720 date that class. I'll say this, this will date me 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.120 and date the class. We we had to do. One 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.280 of our speeches we had to give to the class was, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.080 uh speech we try to convince someone of something, And 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.080 there was a dude doing a thing. He was arguing 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.920 that you should not be buying tapes anymore. You should 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:24.040 start buying c D s. Yeah, he was like, man, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.280 tapes are done, dude. C D S is where it's at. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:37.960 The lasts longer, bouch. So opening day, you get up 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.480 and it's gonna be the day if you like, If 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.120 you don't get a deer on every day your chances 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.000 of getting a deer go down. I remember in mission 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.960 needs to say if he didn't kill deer an open day, 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.960 your odds of getting a deer that deer season were 0:15:50.000 --> 0:16:00.120 reduced by we saw an open day three deer. You 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.840 know what I mean. That was sitting. Dawn told us, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.480 so you're sitting in the woods from legal hour, but 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.920 we were there our four legal shooting light. Right, So 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.160 we're there at five thirty UM and we sat till 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.320 legal last legal shooting light ended it like five oh four. Yep, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.880 we're there all day, did all day the next day, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.120 did the whole thing all over again. So twelve hours 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.840 in the blind, not quite eleven hours, eleven and a 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.760 half hours in the blind, back again, eleven and a 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.680 half hours in the blind. The second day of the season, 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.960 we saw two. We're hunting a spot called First Ravine. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.480 I thought of a great book would be from twenty 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:47.760 two to two, the untold story of First Ravine. And 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.280 then the third day I think we didn't see shit. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.840 Oh we saw that button buck that four key ran 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.520 through work, he ran through and came over to me, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.200 then through and then day I saw you push those 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.560 two but that was doing it that was doing a drive, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.359 doing a mooch drive. So open day really like it, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.399 just if you haven't ever experienced anything like And just 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:16.480 imagine that the woods is quiet sixty essentially three sixty 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.040 four days out of the ear. And then there's this 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:26.000 day when all of a sudden, you got what's half 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.199 a million people in this stay have a hunting license. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.720 Over half a million people in this stay have a 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.840 hunting license. And then on that opening day around the 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.840 stay over like a deer second get shot. It has 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:46.959 a profound impact on dear behavior. They just run. Every 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.240 dug's over here, looked like he's in pain hearing that. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.000 But before we get dogs your bottle, let's take a 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:58.960 quick moment to get a word from our sponsors. 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Well, he talked about well, obviously I can't 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.320 disagree with a deer a second. I was thinking about 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:01.760 your comments about um ther their dear behavior changes and 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.160 all that, and the shooting begins, So you go from 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.720 this calmness to the shooting. But there's a lot of 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.119 shooting around here for two weeks before opening day. I 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.639 mean every weekend you hear people, Yeah, a lot of 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.200 bouch bouch. You know, it's not going on out there. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.679 And uh so it's probably the combination of people in 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:24.159 the woods, the shooting and then the gut piles that 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:25.800 freaks the deer out, which is kind of what you 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.919 were getting at. Everything changed. It's it's so dramatic how 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.359 it changes from opening day. The deer activity or the 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.560 deer sightings changed from opening day to the second day. 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:43.879 And m there have been plenty of times where I 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.359 saw as many many deer on the second day as 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:51.200 I did on the first day. But those are doing 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:56.080 their dear thing on this farm. Yeah, like out feeding 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:03.120 in the morning. You're in don't feed nine ten the well, 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:08.719 talking in the woods, they don't. Oh well, okay, I'm sorry. Monday, Well, 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.440 it wasn't nine ten in the morning, it was eight 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.680 nine in the morning. Those deer were feeding through everything 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.879 that rich pounder and I saw up there on the 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.520 pale stand was just going through doing its dear thing. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:25.000 And that was Monday. So are you you feel that 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.200 it doesn't the open day does not have a profound 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.639 impact on the way the dear act. No, I was 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.440 just challenged about apparently having a look on my face 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:39.800 that was um painful, though clearly it does. Clearly it does. 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.399 I guess what I was going to say was it 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.240 made it? You know, feels like Christmas sounds like a 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:55.080 war zone, and it's just doesn't. It's not as war zone, 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.439 you know. It's it's there isn't as much shooting as 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.400 there used to be. There's not as much of that. 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.640 Do your activity, you know, deer running in as there 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:07.240 used to be. Um, the hunting pressure isn't the same, feel, 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.280 it's less hunting pressure these parts. Yeah, I really do. 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:16.320 What do you attribute that too? I think that uh 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.399 uh gun hunting used to be a lot more moving 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.600 deer pretty much right away. Now it's very much a 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.440 challenge of sitting. Uh. People are afraid to push dear 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.359 off their property, and I'm guilty of it too, you know, 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.000 fraids the wrong word, but are reluctant to get up 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.280 and move around and push dear off their property. Um, 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.760 because the neighbor is gonna shoot it. And you know 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.800 that sort of thing. Yeah, I want to let me 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.439 just interject on that thought from it. In this area, 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.360 it's all hunnible ground. I mean, it's just like this 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:52.479 is like dear country. Yeah, houses are very scattered apart. 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.919 The ones that are there are the houses. I mean, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.320 there's a small community near here, but the houses are 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:00.560 very scattered apart. The ones that are are not like 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:05.800 those overly manicured places people kind of have. It's like 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:10.440 a country setting. Agricultural wood lots butt up against everything. 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.399 All the houses around here. You could pretty much have 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.439 probably a great hunt by just opening the window and 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.240 looking out your window. I mean, it's like deer country, right. 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.680 And the plate the plots are people probably own anywhere 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:30.919 from forty acres two acres. There are people more than that, 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.120 and most of the ground is probably in some way 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.480 or another getting hunted. I don't know about that. I 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.840 guess that's a part of what I'm saying. And I 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.360 don't we're talking about earlier. You and I were talking 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.600 about trying to speak to the neighbors and get a 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.240 group together, and and um and that sort of thing. 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.600 I really should take. I have a map of the 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.840 township and every forty or every eighty or every you know, 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.000 ownership is on that and just start really looking, Okay, well, 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.280 who's hunting there? Is there someone hunting there? Um? Is 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.520 there not something to they allow hunting there because they're 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:12.720 one of the complaints you hear often about um private 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.880 land and things like managed forest law and the other 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:21.360 programs as well. People don't the public isn't allowed access 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.920 to that land, and so nobody's in there moving the deer. 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.240 And I think that's probably true because deer aren't going 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.400 to come out of a place. They may go into 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.840 a place where they're not bothered, and they're not gonna 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.679 come out of there if they're not bothered for a 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.359 day or two, and then there behavior has changed. And 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.320 back when I was a kid um and started hunting, 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.600 as we talked about over forty years ago, Um, we 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:54.320 hunted kind of wherever we wanted to, and I mean 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.760 with no thought to who owned what. Yeah, I remember 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.119 seeing the first no trespassing signs in the response was 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.720 a sign that said, if you're land is posted, stay 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.639 the hell off of mine. Yeah, when I was a 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.840 kid in my day, he's just going tear no trespassing 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:15.120 signs now. He learned it from a guy named Eugene Grotors. Yeah, 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.959 and you thought it was ugly someone who put one 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.520 up and they just go and take them all down. 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.280 I thought it was just like it spoiled everything to 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.639 see all those signs everywhere. That's what they thought, well, 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.840