Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: drink Chaps. Y'all be yaur now yeah, yappy happy. We're
Speaker 1: are happy today. In case you don't know right now
Speaker 1: right now, UM, I had so much joy Google in
Speaker 1: this person ninety million records sold, fifteen Grammys. I've never
Speaker 1: even been nominated for a Grammy, like so like I
Speaker 1: got person to beef with the Grammy. But you cannot
Speaker 1: have personally because you got fifteen and the mother um
Speaker 1: countless movies, countless, staying relevant, making the best music and
Speaker 1: continuing to make the best music. I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 1: I listened to the new album twice. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the joints that I really really loved. One just
Speaker 1: hit me off top all of them. I mean, you
Speaker 1: still are fine wine. You are fine wine. You are
Speaker 1: getting better with time, You're getting better with subject matter.
Speaker 1: Everything about this this is how did they say it
Speaker 1: in Spanish? Blackuena Atlanta is whatever? This is the time
Speaker 1: on the top. We can't go no further out of this,
Speaker 1: and hopefully this makes us to be more female orientated
Speaker 1: because we need more females. It's not the case. You
Speaker 1: know who you're talking to about. We talked about the
Speaker 1: impeccable Markable. By the way, just say you know, we've
Speaker 1: been doing drink chats for six years. My friend Garcia
Speaker 1: has only been hit three times where he walked in,
Speaker 1: Paul said. Paul said, he didn't even come to my
Speaker 1: son's birthday and my girl and so you so off, Tome.
Speaker 1: I want to ask, I heard this is a rum
Speaker 1: by that you okay drinks drinks a drink. We found out.
Speaker 1: We found out that you like hallapeno to killer. That
Speaker 1: means you are gangster. Are going to be honest. Okay,
Speaker 1: just get her drink. Let's get her. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you. There's a rumor that you and your home
Speaker 1: girl to nasht y'all, no, no, not to not share
Speaker 1: the artist. But it was in a group and y'all
Speaker 1: was Nicia you know, my my, yes, you know, either
Speaker 1: she was Ray and I was Ghost or she was
Speaker 1: Ghost and I was ready. It really depends on the day.
Speaker 1: So y'all was in a rap group and y'all was
Speaker 1: calling yourself right and go. No, we was in a
Speaker 1: singing group, but y'all were rapping on the wrap she rhymes. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I did a little that that that and
Speaker 1: the point was we love Utan. So officially, that's hip
Speaker 1: that Rain, that's she's Ray, I'm Ghost, I'm go, She's Ray.
Speaker 1: Who's ever the loudest at the time, it was usually her,
Speaker 1: It's Ray, And whoever is like the cooler one, which
Speaker 1: is usually me, it's Ghosts And that's the vibe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that would do show. You know. It was just
Speaker 1: like a personal you know, like that farmer that you
Speaker 1: put on when you need to just get your thing. Ghost. Notice.
Speaker 1: I think Ray might know it because Swizze knows it.
Speaker 1: And for one of my birthdays, he had Ray come
Speaker 1: and I was like, big, I mean, I love love
Speaker 1: love Ray and Ghost and woo and and so he
Speaker 1: ended up coming, and so I was able to kind
Speaker 1: of explain to him some of that so he might
Speaker 1: know it. Okay, you know, did you make your purple tape?
Speaker 1: Nobody can make the purpose there's only one. Hey, okay,
Speaker 1: that's so let me ask you another question. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Why is your microphone down? That's
Speaker 1: to tell you gotta keep your because we just everybody
Speaker 1: does supposed to come over and tell you to keep
Speaker 1: it down. Came over and I said, wait, nervous. We're
Speaker 1: all nervous at least making English now, So I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you. How mad was you, a little mama when
Speaker 1: she sunked up your performance? All right? The truth for
Speaker 1: the truth first of all, you know, because I had
Speaker 1: to watch it again, and let me just be honest
Speaker 1: with you, as me watching it again this morning, it
Speaker 1: seemed like you didn't even see her. The truth seem
Speaker 1: that he was eating it was in his face. All
Speaker 1: I know was on that stage, Jay was here, I
Speaker 1: was here. In my head, I was such a gorilla
Speaker 1: at the time. I was my eyes. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening is I'm going to destroy this
Speaker 1: record tonight. That's all I had in my head. Somehow, however,
Speaker 1: she got over here. I didn't even bear witness to
Speaker 1: the whole show. I was ice so focused on making
Speaker 1: it amazing. I went backstage and Jay was like, so
Speaker 1: you ain't You ain't see that, and he was like, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't. Just see what just happened. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we killed it, that's what and he was like, you
Speaker 1: ain't see and I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: The whole time my sister was standing right there, and
Speaker 1: I had no idea that I had to watch the
Speaker 1: playback myself. I had no idea. So so honestly, that's been.
Speaker 1: That's been some time. She's super big. Love to her. No,
Speaker 1: she's good. She's super good. She has you know, sent
Speaker 1: her love, apologies the whole thing. I think she was
Speaker 1: just inspired, inspirational. I got on the stage too, because
Speaker 1: you know what, it's funny, because it's something real New
Speaker 1: York kids like. She could have really started like a
Speaker 1: trend like other people have been, Like yo, like maybe
Speaker 1: a fat Joe jumped on or somebody because everyone is
Speaker 1: filling the same New York spirit. Yeah yeah, but go
Speaker 1: on like that because I looked at his face again
Speaker 1: today and I said that man was he was not happy?
Speaker 1: So so you go back home and didn't you don't
Speaker 1: know to after? That's crazy. I was actually crying. I
Speaker 1: was cracking to me. It was hysterical. I thought it
Speaker 1: was the most funny. I just couldn't believe that I
Speaker 1: was on that stage the entire time and I just
Speaker 1: did not see that. Like that's how focused. Diane went
Speaker 1: out performed. But like you've seen the meme, they put
Speaker 1: her everywhere. Now they put her girl every single where?
Speaker 1: Did this cup right here? She right there? She created
Speaker 1: the memes like the first memes that was like it right,
Speaker 1: you feel like she started at me. I think she
Speaker 1: started this meme is the motherfucker thinks she gets I
Speaker 1: think you right, I think little mama, I'm still okay,
Speaker 1: get over the way and goes think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: picture you as a way. But on the new album,
Speaker 1: Let's start with only you? Is that is that? You know,
Speaker 1: you know, the one that really got me. I wanted
Speaker 1: to make love to my wife immedia, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what you need to do. But I love when you
Speaker 1: called my name that that one was that I was
Speaker 1: like the in the gamest of me left. I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, you're going. First of all, I want to
Speaker 1: tell you, I get my sage just to shot day right,
Speaker 1: And I feel like this album that you got is
Speaker 1: my first time getting shot out of my tape that
Speaker 1: even though it's not a tape that you'll just starts
Speaker 1: worthy every one. I love her so much for you
Speaker 1: to just say hold on, that's a very big deal,
Speaker 1: do you know, like you're the new version hold on
Speaker 1: because that's my big sister in my head my head
Speaker 1: shot it is my big sister, like for sure. And
Speaker 1: have you ever Yeah, we met, We definitely, we met.
Speaker 1: She actually performed on the show with me. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: I had to you know, fix my mouth to ask
Speaker 1: her to come out and perform, because you know, she's
Speaker 1: like a she's like so ethereal she's she's like the
Speaker 1: print she just disappeared and she's just like and then
Speaker 1: she reappeared and it's like that. It's like that, so
Speaker 1: so she uh. I met her in London and we
Speaker 1: connected and at the time, I was doing my organization,
Speaker 1: Keep It Out Alive, and we did something called the
Speaker 1: Black Ball, and so every year we had really powerful performances,
Speaker 1: and so I asked her to be a part of it,
Speaker 1: and so she told me yes. And when I tell you,
Speaker 1: I left the room. I was like, thank you, sister,
Speaker 1: you know, big love and to see you soon. I
Speaker 1: left the room. I went around the corner as fast
Speaker 1: as I could get and then I jumped up and
Speaker 1: down like like I was super And then her assistant
Speaker 1: walked by, some acting crazy. That's like, good to see you.
Speaker 1: So let me ask Let me ask you, because you've
Speaker 1: also met Prince and Michael. Correct, how is it? How
Speaker 1: is it? First of all, we love stories from both
Speaker 1: of them, So whichever way you want to start prints
Speaker 1: Michael Prince um Man, you know, he another one. He
Speaker 1: called me a lot. He would check in on me
Speaker 1: a lot. And I don't even know how he got
Speaker 1: my number, Like he's I don't understand. Tell you how
Speaker 1: the Prince got your number. He's another mysterious. He's another
Speaker 1: one there he come back and and and by the way,
Speaker 1: if you ever want to get him on the phone,
Speaker 1: listen whole different situations. I feel like, Prince, what's a
Speaker 1: gangster on the phone? Is that true? I'm just walking out.
Speaker 1: This is just my imagination. He was definitely very directs,
Speaker 1: very very direct, you know. So he would he would
Speaker 1: call me on the phone like after you heard you
Speaker 1: don't know my name? And he was like, you don't know,
Speaker 1: you get checking it out of me? Called me it's
Speaker 1: like I just heard your new record. And I was
Speaker 1: like hello, and you know it's him because he's the
Speaker 1: only one that sound like that, and so he so
Speaker 1: he was like, I love what you're doing. I love
Speaker 1: that sound that you're doing. I love how you're producing
Speaker 1: all your records, Like this is powerful. Keep doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing. So he would hit me like that and
Speaker 1: I said, so, what did you say his name as
Speaker 1: in your phone? He always called me from like some
Speaker 1: old to call it back, you can't And I wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to be so it wasn't really I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't you know if I called him, I would, you know,
Speaker 1: call through somebody Lake minnto, some weird crazy definitely somewhere crazy,
Speaker 1: said scare. And then he would pop up on my
Speaker 1: shows and and then you would just know that like
Speaker 1: Princess here right and everything he turned purple purple. It
Speaker 1: definitely had not. So you don't really want to know
Speaker 1: that Princess at your show, because yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: to be performing when Prince is at your show. And
Speaker 1: then Prince called you later and be like you didn't
Speaker 1: hit the high note like he's the voice like that,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's wrong. He will he'd like, your sound
Speaker 1: was sucked up this show, and I'd be like, he
Speaker 1: never told you that you sound. Your sound wasn't right.
Speaker 1: Your sound was sucked up. And I was like, so
Speaker 1: you think it was? But he he tried to work
Speaker 1: through with it. He was like, I think I think
Speaker 1: it's a little bit between the speakers that have happened.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit between how the mixer's treating it.
Speaker 1: And he would actually like big brother Vicus, properly tell
Speaker 1: me some truthful ship. But you really won't get from
Speaker 1: most people, you know what I mean. So he's amazing.
Speaker 1: A lot of people said that he was like an
Speaker 1: artist artist, like like pro artist everything. Okay, But about
Speaker 1: Michael Michael, I only met him one time. What's Bubbles
Speaker 1: the Monkey? I didn't meet the book. I didn't meet
Speaker 1: the monkey. I met his kids, so that was cool.
Speaker 1: And then he was just cool as hell. Man. It
Speaker 1: was so cool. I mean, always saw spoken, always that
Speaker 1: you know, that energy, and always like so curious. I
Speaker 1: remember it might have been March and there was still
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree up, so I remember I was like, wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely not near Christmas. Course I like Christmas
Speaker 1: tree too, so I get it. It's good. It's good.
Speaker 1: So and he was a Reagan thing. You mean, other
Speaker 1: people do this, see because you never take your I
Speaker 1: don't never put it up. Holy, so Michael had this
Speaker 1: Christmas tree in March, so they had like that, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, everything is like kind of whimsical and kind
Speaker 1: of just like dreaming and everything. And I remember he
Speaker 1: was like giving all these this information about Thriller and
Speaker 1: he was like I had all these memories, and that
Speaker 1: big gass plaque that had like four hundred thousand times
Speaker 1: platinum was on the floor. It was like on the
Speaker 1: floor in the corner. So it was. It was so good.
Speaker 1: He was just so full of love and he was
Speaker 1: super sweet and so loving and who would have ever
Speaker 1: thought that was the last I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: only met him one time. But he's amazing. I love him.
Speaker 1: Who don't love Michael? Which is why you love love
Speaker 1: when you call my name? Because I sound like like
Speaker 1: a little Michael vibe. There was just one song on
Speaker 1: the album that it didn't have a feature, four Umla
Speaker 1: produced by Mike will that's crazy crazy Else is on
Speaker 1: that record? The latest s? Oh yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what type of thing you. I feel like
Speaker 1: like three records and that's good. The ain't trust me,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: This is probably the most important. I felt as doing
Speaker 1: an interview when they sent me the album early, because
Speaker 1: you know, we're really not journalists, but we're journalists, right.
Speaker 1: We have to take that that that meaning. But no
Speaker 1: one's ever done that for us. No one's ever sent
Speaker 1: us the album offered. No one of them offered it.
Speaker 1: No one like you guys are really perfumptional because thank
Speaker 1: you for he like the taking clan. It's like fifty
Speaker 1: five of them right now. They just came out, everyone
Speaker 1: masked professional who No one said nothing, just walked through.
Speaker 1: Everything was focused. I like it. This is not rapping,
Speaker 1: not rapists all over the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is not. So do you consider yourself a soul artist
Speaker 1: because you're more than just R and B. I love
Speaker 1: that question definitely. I mean I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: i'm genre list. I don't feel like I'm undefined. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't get defined what I do. But but if
Speaker 1: there was ever a definition, I think it's so artist.
Speaker 1: It's perfect because I think who was So? I think
Speaker 1: Nirvana is soul. I feel like, you know, soul is
Speaker 1: just something that hits you and moves you and you
Speaker 1: feel it in a way that you know you can't describe.
Speaker 1: So I like that. I'm gonna go for that. But
Speaker 1: everything you do is still very hip hop no matter
Speaker 1: what you do. Yeah, you mean it's just in me.
Speaker 1: It's in me. Hip Hop is soul. Hip hop is soul.
Speaker 1: I mean like it's in me. New York born and raised.
Speaker 1: You can't get it out of me, No, don't try.
Speaker 1: I've seen two during One say that you're from Harlem,
Speaker 1: and one says he was born in Hell's Kitchen. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so Hell's Kitchen. One is true. So Hell's Kitchen, well,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, born in health kitchen is right, and
Speaker 1: raising House kitchen and also Harlem Hell's Kitchen is downtown.
Speaker 1: For people that don't he was Kitchen is like no
Speaker 1: Elis is further down. At least it's like twenties. He
Speaker 1: was kitchen. It is like midtown forties, so it's almost sixtees.
Speaker 1: But west side like where it was crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know where you were more from Queen. You were more Queens,
Speaker 1: so you probably did even come to forty second Street.
Speaker 1: That M just have to get you got your I
Speaker 1: used to go to peep shows there, how I was going, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was up. Friends. I never said I had good friends.
Speaker 1: At least we don't. We don't know if you know.
Speaker 1: But our show is about giving flowers, you know. We
Speaker 1: we see so many artists and they want to praise them,
Speaker 1: you know, after they're gone. We wanted to change their narrative.
Speaker 1: We want to give people, literally, they flowers while they alive.
Speaker 1: So we didn't make that statement up, but we're making
Speaker 1: it famous and we're keeping it famous. So we literally
Speaker 1: wanted to give you your flowers so you can know that.
Speaker 1: Let's make a noise. You give this to everybody coming.
Speaker 1: Just but you're the first one of the purple all right,
Speaker 1: this is the first one that's an exclusive one, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is golden. Yes, we got the beautiful They're gonna last.
Speaker 1: And I don't know about that purple one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And the purple one. I didn't even a purple tape.
Speaker 1: Purple tape, and you don't know that. I love purple.
Speaker 1: I love the purple tape fire. I love this much.
Speaker 1: So okay, so we didn't get only you. Let's let's
Speaker 1: get to only you on a new album. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: what made you go on? So, first of all, the
Speaker 1: album is called Keys, right, and and it's the double album,
Speaker 1: and it has two sides. The first is called Originals
Speaker 1: and the other one is called a Lot. So Originals
Speaker 1: is like that classic a K piano songwriter. Those vibes
Speaker 1: was one you could sing at the type of your LANs.
Speaker 1: And then Unlocked, which is the other side, is the
Speaker 1: one me and Mike Will connected and we sampled the
Speaker 1: originals and made a whole another record out of dolts.
Speaker 1: So it's it's sick. So only You was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite songs. But I'm trying to figure out if
Speaker 1: you got both sides, because you just got you. I
Speaker 1: got Scott got best at me I got La La,
Speaker 1: I got nack King Cole, is it insane? Come from
Speaker 1: me with khalil? Which was I forgot? How good khalil is?
Speaker 1: You reminded me it's old memories love when you called
Speaker 1: my name daffa dolls when daffodil you do think, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to google that. That's when
Speaker 1: they ask you that you'll be like diagnosing yourself on Google.
Speaker 1: I'll be messing up when I Google. I'll be getting
Speaker 1: confused and just give up. A lot of daffodils are
Speaker 1: Actually the firstest I just learned is recently it's the
Speaker 1: first flower that booms after the winter. And so the
Speaker 1: life is that you know you you you can come
Speaker 1: back after a dark time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's what Dapford deals is. And it is a flower. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is a flowers, y'all. I was you know you
Speaker 1: got this? Yeah? Yeah, So I'm bouncing all over the place.
Speaker 1: But one of my favorite joints is when you sample
Speaker 1: O D B. That is my sample Brooklyn Zoo and
Speaker 1: it was for girl girlfriend, yes exactly. So what made
Speaker 1: you go into that zone and you actually like song?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean? Like, what made you
Speaker 1: just say you know what? Because that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to recreate a classic record that's already classic,
Speaker 1: and then so many people are going to judge it
Speaker 1: because they're gonna say, well, it's not as good as
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Zoo or this is good. What makes you take
Speaker 1: on that task? I just had no idea at the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I didn't even know people was
Speaker 1: gonna give a funk or not to be honest, because
Speaker 1: it was my very first record, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: love you very much so that that piano was so dirty,
Speaker 1: but it was the piano that I'm so heavy and
Speaker 1: so hard, and for me, it just was ill as
Speaker 1: a as a singer to be able to end who
Speaker 1: play the piano, who take to take those two and
Speaker 1: create a song around it. To me, that was just
Speaker 1: like some brilliant ship. So the last thing I was
Speaker 1: thinking about was was whether I was messing up with
Speaker 1: a classic or anything. I just didn't even know how
Speaker 1: that went yet. You know, it's like at a certain point,
Speaker 1: you don't even have any limitations. There's nothing inside your
Speaker 1: head that's telling you can't do it. You're just gonna try.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you just tried, and I was like, whatever,
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell me that's a classic. But how did
Speaker 1: that get in your head? Because I hate it now,
Speaker 1: Like when people do my record sover, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, people will be sending me record. So
Speaker 1: they were like, look, I think your record over Like
Speaker 1: I didn't get men MC. It's gonna be different, as
Speaker 1: different as an MC to tackle another MC's records. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, but did that's even that's even more hard.
Speaker 1: There might be more creative liberty if you're singing over
Speaker 1: the joint, Yeah I would. I wouldn't mind someone singing
Speaker 1: over my joint as opposed to rapping and trying to wrap.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I think I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's easier for that. It's just different. So okay, but
Speaker 1: we spoke on Empire State earlier, but we spoke about
Speaker 1: the incidental performance. How is this record even put together?
Speaker 1: Jay calls you and he goes, I got to pi
Speaker 1: in tell us just like that. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I keep caging these words. I'm doing all with job
Speaker 1: by the way, but honestly kind of sounding like, so
Speaker 1: does he have the record? Do you have the record?
Speaker 1: Are y'all and Sony? What's going on? In this particular case,
Speaker 1: he had the record. He um, he was reaching out
Speaker 1: for me to do the record for a minute, and
Speaker 1: he was going through you know, he was being respectful,
Speaker 1: going through the proper channels at the time, and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the people that represent me at the time
Speaker 1: did not tell me about the record. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know what if maybe they felt another thing
Speaker 1: or I don't I really don't know. So finally he
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, man, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to get you this record, this record, this special, this
Speaker 1: is it's called Empire State of Mind. I want you
Speaker 1: to hear it. It's about New York and obviously nobody
Speaker 1: can do it, but you know you were married, Like
Speaker 1: there's the only two that could do it. I need yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. It wouldn't make sense, right, yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1: So um So, anyway, I was like, I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that it didn't get to me, and it definitely created
Speaker 1: a whole new thing for me to make sure that
Speaker 1: I was like in front of my ship because so
Speaker 1: many people, you know, you trust them to handle your
Speaker 1: stuff and do do you do their thing for you
Speaker 1: and you don't know what's coming back to it was
Speaker 1: not coming back to you. And sometimes that's crazy because
Speaker 1: could you imagine that empire never got to me when
Speaker 1: you heard the record? Did you know this was immediately
Speaker 1: a monster? Or you was like because you know what
Speaker 1: it is? Sometimes when we make regional records, and although
Speaker 1: New York is is a big market, I'm sure when um,
Speaker 1: people you know from gare making a I Love New
Speaker 1: York record and a lot of people get critiqued of
Speaker 1: us because they you know, they say that we're cocky.
Speaker 1: New York is where cocky? So was there any time
Speaker 1: when you thought like damn, because it is a regional record,
Speaker 1: although it's a global record, but it's regional because if
Speaker 1: you're really not from New York, you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: that little mama spirit to jump on the stage. You
Speaker 1: understand I'm saying she was correct because she felt the spirit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's exactly what you wanted.
Speaker 1: It's just not on the stage at that stage. But
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you first heard it, did you know that immediately
Speaker 1: that this is gonna because I believe they change Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra record. They took it out, and this is the
Speaker 1: new New York City. And did you know that when
Speaker 1: you heard it? I don't think I knew all that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know all that. I definitely felt it. You
Speaker 1: could feel it. You could feel it had a spirit.
Speaker 1: You could feel the way the chord has changed. You
Speaker 1: could feel that that the beginning of that chorus was
Speaker 1: already kind of in the space. You can start to
Speaker 1: feel what it what it felt like. So I already
Speaker 1: I only operate from an emotional space. I don't really
Speaker 1: know how to go from a place where I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a smash just I don't I don't work
Speaker 1: like that. I just don't even know how to think
Speaker 1: like that. So it was emotional for me, and I
Speaker 1: felt it. It's my city. I loved it, and I
Speaker 1: just felt attracted to it, so so I went forward.
Speaker 1: I actually had to record it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: The first time I recorded it in l a and
Speaker 1: the ship just didn't work. I thought it worked, I
Speaker 1: thought it sounded good, but he called me. He was like, um,
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be able to do them vocals
Speaker 1: again and I was like, what I put my vocus
Speaker 1: my vocus a fresh? Yeah, I don't don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to call you. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: he didn't really want to go on. But to be
Speaker 1: honest and to be fair, I was sick, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to turn the record around for him.
Speaker 1: He asked me for it by a certain time. So
Speaker 1: I was sick and I went in and I did it,
Speaker 1: and you could he when he called me, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was mad, and I was like, what you mean?
Speaker 1: But then I agreed. I agreed, and he's like another thing.
Speaker 1: You know how the record joys be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: could you do that? Could you do that on there?
Speaker 1: So he has requests. So I went back in. I
Speaker 1: did it in New York. I was feeling better than right.
Speaker 1: You can't do a New York record in l A.
Speaker 1: That's just like, yeah, that's kind of crazy. This is
Speaker 1: like you can't be at Circle House. And my Ami
Speaker 1: even corded, no, you can't. I don't necord. So yeah,
Speaker 1: now that was so that was the vibe and then
Speaker 1: I flipped it did it again, and it was it
Speaker 1: was what it was. It is what it is right now.
Speaker 1: So but now that it is literally the not only
Speaker 1: New York record. But I'll never forget the biggest moment
Speaker 1: for me was I was in Paris and it was
Speaker 1: the first time I was performing the record. Is the
Speaker 1: first time that I performed the record by myself. And
Speaker 1: if you remember, I did a version of the record
Speaker 1: that was just me on piano because I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do this jay thing
Speaker 1: every time, Like I'm never gonna be able to perform it,
Speaker 1: and so I did a broken down version of it.
Speaker 1: And that's actually when we talked about ease, and we
Speaker 1: talked about original and unlock. We would call the broken
Speaker 1: down version of Empire my original, and we would call
Speaker 1: the original version of Empire my unlocked version. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the concept of what unlocked and keys come from.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, when I when I did when I
Speaker 1: did my version, I was in Paris and I was
Speaker 1: about to perform, and I was like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: how it was gonna go over. I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 1: they speak another language, are they even gonna understand me?
Speaker 1: And then I'm like New York, New York, and we're
Speaker 1: in Paris. I'm like, I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: All I know I went out the entire audience top
Speaker 1: of their loan every word, and I just that was
Speaker 1: one of them records that came out and I knew
Speaker 1: that all the words the same day, like I knew,
Speaker 1: like I was, like I mean, because it was a problem,
Speaker 1: Like I felt a little Mama spirit. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that like being funny. I'm actually like I was,
Speaker 1: like I did too, Like I was like I wanted
Speaker 1: I did in my mind, like I told you I
Speaker 1: did in my mind. It's just one of those like
Speaker 1: in fact every Winner. It's like my tradition. I go
Speaker 1: back to New York, where I'm from, and I have
Speaker 1: to hear that record. I have to hear that record
Speaker 1: going down stret Like I cannot complete my winter without
Speaker 1: riding down thirty four Street. For some reason, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: much and when I'm in New York, I'm pretty much incognige.
Speaker 1: Rob try the truck. I'm probably in the truck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But it reminds me of you know, home Alone and
Speaker 1: these these Christmas spirits, you know, songs that you have
Speaker 1: to hear it, like Christmas. Yeah, it does, it does.
Speaker 1: Did it come out around christ I don't know, but
Speaker 1: you know why, it's just that perfect snow record when
Speaker 1: it's snowing. I just want to hear that. And you
Speaker 1: know what I google to you today, um that all
Speaker 1: of your albums like you're lea Google got OBEs of money,
Speaker 1: but you're really a big dog. Like you know, when
Speaker 1: I was making records, they would keep me in the
Speaker 1: summer because it's easier to push the artist in the summer.
Speaker 1: All of your album October I told you record point,
Speaker 1: but you really only your albums came out within November.
Speaker 1: It's only two of your albums that came out the
Speaker 1: first ye And I'm gonna get each other one maybe
Speaker 1: here and all of the other one. Fourth quarter was
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And what I used to the big, the big,
Speaker 1: the big CEOs to tell me, you can't come out
Speaker 1: fourth quarter? You do, You're gonna say you're asking the
Speaker 1: summer time. I never got orfered and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I said, damn, oh, it was fourth quarter. Because you
Speaker 1: know what that means that when they drop you a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they means that you are the your shot
Speaker 1: for them to make all their money back, so they
Speaker 1: push you J D. M X and all of you
Speaker 1: guys to the fourth quarter because y'all are short shot.
Speaker 1: You know, I happen to be aware of that, of course,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, man, that's a big deal now. But honestly,
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of wild and I putting
Speaker 1: out putting out sounds that I'm a minor. That was
Speaker 1: my first record in the summer. Man, it's something that
Speaker 1: feels so good about the summer record. You got, the festivals,
Speaker 1: you got, the parades, you got I remember being in
Speaker 1: the Puerto Rican Day parade. You can go. You have
Speaker 1: some claiming on time. My godmother, it's for the weekend.
Speaker 1: So we rode him with that. That's just that's that's
Speaker 1: all right. We got Leicia. Yeah, but you and I
Speaker 1: loved it. There was something so good about the summer.
Speaker 1: You could go. You know, there's a different energy in
Speaker 1: the winter. You like trying to figure out where you're
Speaker 1: gonna performing out freeze, it's just different. Everybody's kind of
Speaker 1: rushing to be home. It's it's a different vibe. I
Speaker 1: feel like the summer. So my point is, even though
Speaker 1: maybe you wanted to be off in the fourth court,
Speaker 1: I think the summer was like right, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: was a short shot. I don't mind moving on. What
Speaker 1: was your first acting movie, because like, you have so
Speaker 1: much movies to like Holy Molimo. Yeah, so like and
Speaker 1: they said you were signed at twelve. You was making
Speaker 1: music at twelve, and I had a record at fifteen.
Speaker 1: My first record deal was I guess it was right
Speaker 1: out of right out of high school. Graduated high school early,
Speaker 1: so I was about fifth. I was about sixteen. I
Speaker 1: had a record deal, and I did I had a
Speaker 1: record deal. I was. I was signed to Columbia Records,
Speaker 1: and I was accepted to Columbia University. And I just
Speaker 1: knew that was some ship. I was like, Columbia Record, Colby,
Speaker 1: it's me. Somebody knew in me something you so in
Speaker 1: my total when you was in Columbia at the time,
Speaker 1: it was Donnie. I know, don I think Tommy had
Speaker 1: already maybe not, something had transitioned with with Tommy was
Speaker 1: going through it. You know. At the time, I ain't
Speaker 1: know about that ship. I was like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you got to work with Clive
Speaker 1: Davis and then Columbia fucked it up, and and I
Speaker 1: know that I know they're killing themselves to this day
Speaker 1: because they did it with me, and they did it
Speaker 1: with Aretha Franklin. F y damn. I'm sorry. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what they did to Areta. What did they do
Speaker 1: to her? They didn't know what to do with her.
Speaker 1: They didn't know how to Like she didn't start having
Speaker 1: her She's had her records that didn't really blow on
Speaker 1: Columbia and then she you know, she went on and
Speaker 1: then she started getting those big records. So so they
Speaker 1: just didn't really know what to do with the real
Speaker 1: artists and with an artist that was different. You know,
Speaker 1: they so many of these places they just marketing and
Speaker 1: they just commercialism, and they just don't know how to
Speaker 1: think of nothing new. It was a blessing for them,
Speaker 1: Like it was definitely. Did you see the can versus Auntie?
Speaker 1: Got a little heard her? Auntie was right there. She
Speaker 1: was drinking car. Yeah, I got I think it was.
Speaker 1: I thought they called the Soroka Con. There was so
Speaker 1: but she is a legend and the genius and her
Speaker 1: parents with Stephanie Mills, was like one of the most
Speaker 1: incredible parentings ever. And what I loved from seeing the playbacks,
Speaker 1: I love the sisterhood, like you could see how you
Speaker 1: know certain certain times, and I think sometimes artists don't
Speaker 1: don't necessarily connect so so powerfully, although you do meet
Speaker 1: people that you do connect with, but it's so separate.
Speaker 1: But them, like you could see her like she was
Speaker 1: there for her, you know, she was she was not
Speaker 1: gonna leave her. She was gonna be with her the
Speaker 1: whole time. She was gonna like make it the energy beautiful.
Speaker 1: And I just thought that that sisterhood was really really
Speaker 1: really beautiful. And you know what, that's a big show.
Speaker 1: Like people you get nervous, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and you definitely might need to try to feel like
Speaker 1: you calm down, But that doesn't take away from her
Speaker 1: legendary status. She's so crazy. I see. I was so
Speaker 1: scared to get up and say hi to him right
Speaker 1: because she's gonna she is gonna cut in l A A.
Speaker 1: I'll forgot who I was what I was like, can
Speaker 1: you see if I could see hot to us? By
Speaker 1: the time they came back, she had already left, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I just gonna take a loss. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna take the loss with the hell, like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm so you watch versus obviously, definitely obvious.
Speaker 1: I was there at the inception. It's part of the family. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was there. Okay, what was the inception of that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just go there. Well, this is my vision
Speaker 1: of the okay, my virgin. The inception was. I went down.
Speaker 1: I went down to the to the garage and I
Speaker 1: walked in and and and you know, he's over there
Speaker 1: on I. But I'm like, ship, if I walk over there,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make me get on the camera. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay were here. So I was watching him,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I wonder they do it? Who's
Speaker 1: he talking to? But if I go over there, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make me get on the camera. Don't want to
Speaker 1: be on the cameras late. So I went upstairs. Next
Speaker 1: time I come back downstairs, Um, he's going And so
Speaker 1: I was like when we went so I got to
Speaker 1: sleep three in the morning. Bag never gonna believe what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened? I was just on I g
Speaker 1: with Tim, me and Tim we went crazy and I
Speaker 1: killed him. I killed them for sure. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I said, what was happening. He was battling like he
Speaker 1: was playing the record. I was playing the record, he
Speaker 1: was playing why, and then everybody was just coming to
Speaker 1: the spot. It was crazy. I started to lose you, suption,
Speaker 1: so I had to go up the street finish in
Speaker 1: the car because I'm like, you finished in the car? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I killed him in the car. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, that's fired. That sounds sick.
Speaker 1: I went to bed and that was literally the beginning
Speaker 1: of versus. Like that transformed into all that you need
Speaker 1: a versus? Are you okay? Because you do? So you
Speaker 1: know where I'm going? You know what? The next question is, Google,
Speaker 1: go ahead, would you do versus? He ain't go all that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but y'all was so friendly. I wanted you
Speaker 1: to do. You need to be a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot it, though, Google. I do think that
Speaker 1: I personally need another another verses. I think we gotta
Speaker 1: do who I want you who? Who would you want
Speaker 1: to battle? Who y'all think I should be with? He
Speaker 1: said Elton John sucking John. He just said Elton John John.
Speaker 1: H um mary on No, definitely, but el John has
Speaker 1: like sixty years in music, Like sixty years. I got
Speaker 1: a lot, But like that's a lot. Wow, But Eric
Speaker 1: about did Joe Scott, which was one of my favorites
Speaker 1: that was like one of my fast Mariah Beyonce Orihanna Orihanna.
Speaker 1: That's hard. I like that me be a ready yeah,
Speaker 1: so um uh we should leave. We had Carye on
Speaker 1: here right and he uh, that's this Sunday Service. Have
Speaker 1: you ever attend this Sunday Service. I have been one
Speaker 1: Sunday Service and I also have watched Sunday Service, and
Speaker 1: I really love I love his vibe with Sunday Service.
Speaker 1: I think it's really really special and he's like the
Speaker 1: only one that could do it, you know, just in
Speaker 1: the way that he does it that makes it such
Speaker 1: a visual experience and then kind of an emotional experience.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, blood At, I'm gonna name your albums,
Speaker 1: and I want you to say something about him as
Speaker 1: I name them. Tell me where you was at when
Speaker 1: you were making of what I was feeling, where I
Speaker 1: was at, what was happening. You know, you jump around
Speaker 1: a lot. I love that. Yes, I gotta keep I
Speaker 1: gotta keep up with you. We ain't even a creeptime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna give me. Okay, songs in the minor. First
Speaker 1: of all, it's a minor. My g oh, yes, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sorry. Dyslexic, that's okay, that's okay, don't worry.
Speaker 1: He's gonna use dyslextive songs and a minor. A hundred
Speaker 1: thirty five between Fifth and Lennox, one six ft walk up,
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment, no heat blazing, MMG cafe, what's the
Speaker 1: cafe that sampans? Yes, in the closet with a blanket
Speaker 1: over recording vocals, listening to the records for hours and hours,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how could I produce them? How
Speaker 1: could I make them sound as good as Isaac Hayes
Speaker 1: and Mary and and and and like you know, Smokey
Speaker 1: Robinson and Marvin Gaye and like those joints that was
Speaker 1: timeless forever and never went to sleep singing at the
Speaker 1: top of my loans. Dude on the corner called me,
Speaker 1: hit a high note every time I walked back to
Speaker 1: the spot. Hit a high note. What I heard you
Speaker 1: last night? That's songs and name the Diary of Alicia Keys,
Speaker 1: The Diary of Alicia Keys. I had just moved to Jersey.
Speaker 1: I thought I was thought I was big time, I
Speaker 1: thought I could get me a little spot. I just
Speaker 1: wanted a little spot of like a little house, like
Speaker 1: a little thing. All of a sudden everything kind of
Speaker 1: turned around. I didn't really have that much money that
Speaker 1: I thought I couldn't make the rent anymore for the
Speaker 1: spot that I was renting. And I got and I
Speaker 1: was stressed out, but I knew that it was gonna
Speaker 1: work out. And I promised I would never live in
Speaker 1: Jersey ever again, because I was never gonna pay to
Speaker 1: get anywhere. Don't charge me to leave or come back again.
Speaker 1: And I never saw went okay, So I went somewhere
Speaker 1: I could get a free bridge, and I ended up
Speaker 1: in Queens Queen, Okay, Jersey. Do you remember the first time? Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was such a blur. It was like such a
Speaker 1: bad time. I just didn't even remember. You was at
Speaker 1: in Queen's Rosedale, Rosdale. O, my first house, Queen's Rose
Speaker 1: From Where are you from? From Left Fra City? Goddamn
Speaker 1: it makes no noise of me? O, holy shit, soft
Speaker 1: from Rosdale? From around there? He's from Roxdale, Rocksdale. Stuff
Speaker 1: that don't add up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So let me finish to finished on the albums Okay,
Speaker 1: Yeah you took me there. I was lost as I
Speaker 1: am as I am. I had a major breakdown. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle all the things. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was supposed to handle everything and I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be perfect. I didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to be it, and I felt
Speaker 1: like I was sinking and I had to leave. I
Speaker 1: just like I couldn't take it anymore. And so I left.
Speaker 1: And it's the first time that I went on like
Speaker 1: a trip from ey Ey. That's when I went to Egypt.
Speaker 1: I actually went to Egypt and Italy. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: half black and half Italian, so I didn't even realize
Speaker 1: when I picked those two there was like a home
Speaker 1: coming in a way, like a you know, like a
Speaker 1: like you know, like a trip for me that was
Speaker 1: going to mean something. And so when I came back
Speaker 1: from that, I started changing everything. I started. I had
Speaker 1: a bunch of fake friends. I had people that I
Speaker 1: just they weren't fake, but they just they just wanted
Speaker 1: what they wanted and it wasn't in line. And I
Speaker 1: had to kind of babysit everybody, and I just cut
Speaker 1: off all the excess energy, and I remember, I just decided,
Speaker 1: like I can create what I want to create. I
Speaker 1: don't have to I don't have to do anything that
Speaker 1: don't feel right for me. And it was the first
Speaker 1: time that I really like expressed my own individuality and
Speaker 1: I and I and I made major changes and it
Speaker 1: changed everything's fire, business managers, lawyers, all these fake as
Speaker 1: people steal from you. And it was finished. It was
Speaker 1: a big, big shift that record, which is why I
Speaker 1: sound like that okay, the Element of Freedom, which is
Speaker 1: kind of ironic because you kind of like describing that
Speaker 1: like leaving that album, so it makes sense that you
Speaker 1: went to the element of freedom. But I want you
Speaker 1: to say, to your word, the element of freedom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know when I think about it, I felt so
Speaker 1: empowered naming the album element of Freedom. It wasn't until
Speaker 1: I looked back on it that I realized, what an
Speaker 1: element don't make no damn sense. This is a tiny
Speaker 1: little bit, like an element is a tiny bit of freedom.
Speaker 1: Him Here I was thinking, I was like having all
Speaker 1: this freedom, but the words I was choosing was small,
Speaker 1: and so that's kind of at the time. I had
Speaker 1: to break out of thinking small. I had to break out.
Speaker 1: Although Element is where Empire was, Element is where I
Speaker 1: try seeking with a broken heart was. Element was like
Speaker 1: a big European record for me to like, Europe went
Speaker 1: crazy over Element of Freedom, and um, it was like my.
Speaker 1: It was like my. It was like my coming out
Speaker 1: of my beginning, of coming out of anything that I
Speaker 1: had maybe held onto before and like leaving it behind.
Speaker 1: But I needed I still needed a lot. I still
Speaker 1: needed a lot of transition. You know, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: so deep drink Yeah yeah, yeah, So that brings me
Speaker 1: Girl on Fire? Oh, girl on Fire. You couldn't tell
Speaker 1: me ship. I remember people was like, you got a
Speaker 1: little bit nervous that you're calling this album girl on fire.
Speaker 1: I was like, why I'm a girl on fire? And
Speaker 1: I didn't even get what they were talking about. They
Speaker 1: were kind of saying, like I guess they were saying,
Speaker 1: if you call, if you say a girl on fire,
Speaker 1: but if it don't end up being that hot, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen to you? Oh? I thought they was talking
Speaker 1: about like the Richard Prior type of fire. I didn't
Speaker 1: know why didn't mean it like that. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want that said, I thought you said. I thought you said,
Speaker 1: you said, that's why people like you. Oh though I
Speaker 1: did throw my brother like his I got a younger
Speaker 1: brother and I threw him like his eighteen birthday and
Speaker 1: and it was fresh. And we went to the um
Speaker 1: the gold car spot, you know, the racing spot. We
Speaker 1: were in the racist s and I surprised my brother,
Speaker 1: like his friends from or wherever the family was there.
Speaker 1: We rented it. How I felt like I was doing
Speaker 1: it big. It was crazy. He was so happy, he
Speaker 1: was so excited. We were in the back of cheers, brother,
Speaker 1: I love you, boom and I went back like this
Speaker 1: and there was a candle behind my hair and then
Speaker 1: my ladies know when you put like the hair, spraying
Speaker 1: all this stuff in. So you was a girl. And
Speaker 1: all I know is that God Swizzy was with me.
Speaker 1: He was like bab bab bab baby, and it was
Speaker 1: on fire. So that was during that album. And to
Speaker 1: your point you wrote that I should, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: the girl on fire was on fire. I had my
Speaker 1: first baby. I got rid of a bunch of negative
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that needed to be out of my life. It
Speaker 1: was about removing a toxic bullshit. And I was on
Speaker 1: fire for real. There was you know, I felt myself
Speaker 1: and I was like, I had a space for myself,
Speaker 1: and nobody could tell me some ship that wasn't right
Speaker 1: because I knew for myself. You just said that title
Speaker 1: was hard, but but this title is harder to me
Speaker 1: here because it's just like to me, that's being cocky
Speaker 1: without being cocky, because because you're saying here and most
Speaker 1: people say I'm here forever. So I think camp with
Speaker 1: those words in your mouth, what were you saying by saying,
Speaker 1: I remember I was gonna name here king in New York. Okay,
Speaker 1: I wanted I've said I'm the King of New York.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I ain't gonna say. I deserve to
Speaker 1: be considered the king, not the queen, not the princess,
Speaker 1: the King of New York. I want to. So I
Speaker 1: started to kind of bring some of the other kings
Speaker 1: in New York, and I was, you know, building with
Speaker 1: nas accuted jay and and I was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? I want to call
Speaker 1: it King of New York. People have such an adverse
Speaker 1: reaction to it. It was so interesting how that rubbed
Speaker 1: people in a certain way. The other kings of New
Speaker 1: York though, and they didn't. I don't feel they It
Speaker 1: was more like they were kind of considering it for me,
Speaker 1: you know, like as a brother, like to their sister.
Speaker 1: More like that, not like they was hating they was,
Speaker 1: you know. Um anyway, So I decided to call it
Speaker 1: here because I realized that that was even more powerful
Speaker 1: to what I was feeling at the time. And that record,
Speaker 1: to me, is one of my most undiscovered jewels. To me,
Speaker 1: that record is my Purple Rain. Like that one is
Speaker 1: one of my most special important records, and it was
Speaker 1: a big transition for me. It's my love letter to
Speaker 1: New York. You really hear it. You hear it in
Speaker 1: every skit. My our brother Pick was on that record
Speaker 1: before he passed. There is a whole energy that's in
Speaker 1: there that's so real and um. And so I decided
Speaker 1: to call it here because not because I'm here, but
Speaker 1: because I'm present, Like I'm here and I'm experiencing myself
Speaker 1: in this moment and I'm being honest with everything that
Speaker 1: I'm going through and feeling, and so I'm here and
Speaker 1: that and that's the way I looked at it, And
Speaker 1: so I love that record. That's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: that's like one of my favorite records, my baby. So
Speaker 1: then you self titled the album Alicia Alicia? What made
Speaker 1: you do that? Alicia came because I realized that I
Speaker 1: started to really know who I was and who I am,
Speaker 1: and Alicia is a very complicated individual. We're all complicated individuals.
Speaker 1: We all got all these different sizes of us. And
Speaker 1: I remember I was having a conversation with my husband
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I haven't tell anybody
Speaker 1: with Italian And I was like, what, why don't you
Speaker 1: tell anybody that you're Italian? And I was like, people
Speaker 1: know what I'm Italian? Were you talking about? He was like,
Speaker 1: I asked anybody, but you don't know your Talian? And
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, what is the point? He's like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like you like not fully sharing everything,
Speaker 1: that there's so many ill parts to you and you
Speaker 1: don't share all of it. And that was the first
Speaker 1: time that I really thought, well, maybe there is stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm holding back that I didn't realize. And so
Speaker 1: Alicia was really about uncovering, like who is Alicia? On
Speaker 1: multiple levels? Who are we all on multiple levels? Like
Speaker 1: we feel like we have to beat this one side
Speaker 1: or this one type or it's one version, or this
Speaker 1: person makes you happy, someone be like that, and this
Speaker 1: person makes my girls happy. Someone be like that. But like,
Speaker 1: who are you? And that to me, that's like that
Speaker 1: was mine. Yeah, that was my steak in the ground,
Speaker 1: like this is who I am? And then the last
Speaker 1: one key and it's a double album. I've never got
Speaker 1: that much thought process. It cut off after d I'm
Speaker 1: fucked up, so Keys. It is really about, like, listen,
Speaker 1: there's two sides of me. There's two sides of all
Speaker 1: of this. There's many sides of all of us. I got.
Speaker 1: I have my original me, I have the one that
Speaker 1: you might expect me to be on behind the keys.
Speaker 1: I got the music, I got the soulfulness, and I
Speaker 1: also have a whole other side of me that you
Speaker 1: probably not expect. And I want to blow your mind
Speaker 1: with both of them. They're going to be all about
Speaker 1: the piano, They're gonna be all about the ship. Only
Speaker 1: I could do this is my world. You can't do
Speaker 1: what I do, and you're gonna love it because it's
Speaker 1: this experience that's just like pure and real and honest,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna feel it right here. I want to
Speaker 1: buy the album. Now yes, original a K unlocked a
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Speaker 1: All right. So look now we were just time in
Speaker 1: the game. We're playing quick time with slie. Where's the slie? Okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's no, it's no slides Why because that's the word
Speaker 1: I made it back in the day. Okay, Look, this
Speaker 1: is what we do. So you can pick one of
Speaker 1: the other one of the other, and it's it's nothing.
Speaker 1: But if you pick both, or you pick you want
Speaker 1: to be political. When you say neither, then you take
Speaker 1: both of you. Okay, okay, well I pick one already.
Speaker 1: Other if I want to be political, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want to be shot, okay, you can pour a shot
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah yeah yeah, And I'm gonna drink Japanese whiskey.
Speaker 1: Holy sh what's what's what's your drink? He's whiskey obviously.
Speaker 1: Spaces Major. We love space. What do we like it?
Speaker 1: This is one of the best champagne on the planet
Speaker 1: of that space. And we also we also promote rock
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Speaker 1: Wanta Dominican Mama one. What is that? He's just likes
Speaker 1: to be crazy yeah, they're gonna kill you. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna make any more your interviews. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: doesn't be playing. It's no herbal okay, the herb shop.
Speaker 1: Get you do crazy? You could do ceremonies. You have
Speaker 1: a teck Google, don't choose. Oh yeah, we retired, we
Speaker 1: retired Tiger up. That that's the latest. No, we ain't
Speaker 1: been getting the Middle Garden bogy since on COVID because
Speaker 1: it came from China. So they they shot of ship down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we just never conneftence. He was got a
Speaker 1: little scared, like, wait, but what do you do? You
Speaker 1: get a shot. I'm doing what we all dream were drink.
Speaker 1: If I choose the middle ground, if you're really correct,
Speaker 1: then we're drinking. Okay, and I feel like you're gonna
Speaker 1: be this is unlocked, ak unlock Okay. Cool. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends. I don't have a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: I love everybody. This is what it is. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: still friends. We're gonna start out. We're gonna start out.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. You have a drink everybody, you
Speaker 1: can do, it's gonna be you can you can start
Speaker 1: shot in the poor shot in the poor. You can
Speaker 1: shot in the poor, okay, Drake, Oh Wayne, Wayne scared
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Speaker 1: I know you just work with car hard one I
Speaker 1: just spoke to was working with Car in New York. Kane.
Speaker 1: You're asking, he's pretty easy. She's not drinking it all right,
Speaker 1: push your teeth. I got the wrong one. Oh Ship,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Well great, great who answered that one? Yeah? There?
Speaker 1: Question is thank you? I'm so sorry. There's the questions.
Speaker 1: That was okay? Okay? Was that hard crafted just for you?
Speaker 1: Needs guys? Come on and a Dominican. Those two guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: this this is more like Queen Latte or empty like
Speaker 1: la But I love them both, but laugh I said
Speaker 1: that second. Okay, Foxy a little Kim Kim. This one.
Speaker 1: You're taking a shot. Are you ready? Okay, evil Missy
Speaker 1: take a shot. I want to shoes. That was too big. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna smaller next like that, No problem, cam or
Speaker 1: Mace all taking a shot now. I just want to
Speaker 1: think about it for two seconds. All I'm love you
Speaker 1: too much for big. I'm gonna say camp Okay, it's funny.
Speaker 1: What Swerland, The fact that even put that you know,
Speaker 1: next we should drink it for that. Okay, that's w
Speaker 1: B or skate us as the devil to the V
Speaker 1: I was just talking about Coco, okay, O, d B
Speaker 1: or Biz Markey shot. That is a hard one. You
Speaker 1: go poke in your shot. I need a major BOTHO.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Biz because he's classic and he's that
Speaker 1: it is hard classic to take a shot take alright,
Speaker 1: this one were taking a shot? Yes, I'm I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That's big you. This one right here, I don't know
Speaker 1: where you're gonna go with it because it's girl power
Speaker 1: and these are two of the most irrelevant female rap
Speaker 1: artists right now, Cardi B or Nicki Minaj. They both
Speaker 1: got your bone right there. How long this game going,
Speaker 1: don't worry gets easier. I'm not to come with it
Speaker 1: this one. I don't know where you're going with n
Speaker 1: Wa or you wo Tank. It's gonna be because I
Speaker 1: told you, it's like my mom. I respect that. Brandy
Speaker 1: or Monica, I'm cold. I'm gonna go for Monica. Okay,
Speaker 1: Whitney or Janet. You have a question, is that drinking?
Speaker 1: I'm going for Whitney. Okay, I'm going for Whitney Okay,
Speaker 1: rest in peace? Yes, what Biggie or big Al? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just love with my child off. That was hard.
Speaker 1: There's no choosing between big and big Al. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should period. That is the right correct answer.
Speaker 1: Mariah or Mary Jane Mary Okay, Okay, I think I
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna pick on this one at a
Speaker 1: Miami even though we're in Miami right now. That's hard
Speaker 1: New York. I'm taking the shop of that that should
Speaker 1: be think I'm taking this. Listen, how much do you draw?
Speaker 1: How many days for a week? Is this show? This
Speaker 1: is the second time that they're worried about us. You
Speaker 1: got him? Got you? Chris Brown or Usha Ure that
Speaker 1: was Deep Trey Songs or Jeremiah Tray Okay, this one
Speaker 1: it's very tricky, meant to be tricky, DMX or tupap.
Speaker 1: There's no choosing. Yeah, I agree with you and agree. Yes,
Speaker 1: I definitely don't know what we're gonna go with this one.
Speaker 1: Jordan or Lebron Okay, I don't know where you're gonna
Speaker 1: go with this one, neither. This is pretty funny. Salt
Speaker 1: and Pepper or The City Girls. It's pretty uny. I
Speaker 1: like this one. You gotta go Pepper, you got I
Speaker 1: feel like you went to Halloween that salt Pepper. Once
Speaker 1: as the whole group went to what like Halloween, you
Speaker 1: dressed up. I think next year, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need that. Yeah, I never did that. I never
Speaker 1: got into Halloween like that. First I dressed up, but
Speaker 1: I don't go crazy. Not everybody going bananas. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Jesus is like a major thing. That's a scarface. I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to scarface. I went as a dodgeball guy once.
Speaker 1: Feel like that was believable that I could play dodgeball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I said. One show wasn't one video, No,
Speaker 1: I went, I wanted it for thirty minutes and I said,
Speaker 1: let's get it. I took it off. So I did
Speaker 1: dress up one year. I'm gonna try to get into
Speaker 1: it because even jay Z and then I see fabulous dress.
Speaker 1: I said, it's really every the only bows yea, I
Speaker 1: gotta get into get into it. And I'm gonna get Halloween.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. And nobody dresses up as
Speaker 1: Norrie for Halloween. I don't like it. I've been looking
Speaker 1: at your pictures. Nobody wants to be me dressed, Like,
Speaker 1: how could they be when they hold this habiki in
Speaker 1: their head and say they're just let me google. I
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say for this one, but I
Speaker 1: gotta actual You don't know the locks of the me Goes.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jada is one of the greatest of all
Speaker 1: time period and the story so is chic. Okay, even
Speaker 1: though I actually this earlier, I'm gonna reiterator just make
Speaker 1: sure you still um with the same decision for Brello.
Speaker 1: Kanye Ya you said that earlier. Yeah, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you think I'm going for? You know, I love Kanye
Speaker 1: as a person, and I'm about to be down with
Speaker 1: don dust media. I'm about to be with that. But
Speaker 1: I can't erase my history. You know what I'm saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: Friday or house party Friday? I love my love did
Speaker 1: throw me a house party, but that was after I
Speaker 1: threw him to come into America. Party. Who won coming
Speaker 1: to America? Or house party? You know? You know I
Speaker 1: got your back? Okay, all right? This is getting great
Speaker 1: nineties or two thousand any criteria of hip hop. You
Speaker 1: want two thousands music in general nineties or two thousands
Speaker 1: nineties or two thousands, nineties, I think nineties. Okay, coming
Speaker 1: to America or Hall of Nights, that's hard. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: going for Hall of Nights. Yeah, thank you, coming to America.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home nights. I actually, now that I
Speaker 1: think about it, I was gonna come into America. You
Speaker 1: said that, but because you know why everybody's in Harlem,
Speaker 1: everybody that is crazy. Yeah, I actually agree with you. Okay,
Speaker 1: ye ill Matic or Ready to Die. Didn't we ask
Speaker 1: you that in a different way? Yeah? No, didn't you know?
Speaker 1: We didn't say bigger n Nope. Let me just think
Speaker 1: about this. Illmatic already to stay both first two albums.
Speaker 1: It's too classic to pick. Yeah, classics, the classics. You're
Speaker 1: really trying to do me. We're joining you were Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sound like the same question, but it isn't. Now,
Speaker 1: don't ask me some backwards question. It's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: actually sound the same question, but it's not. Nas or Jay.
Speaker 1: You just got you got ready, just like they both
Speaker 1: got your number. You've got to people, literally correct, you
Speaker 1: have to who's so hot? Ok? This must be over soon? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You three? You three crasses left on only three more pages.
Speaker 1: Kiss or push your teeth. I didn't expect that reaction.
Speaker 1: I am not drinking again currently, so I'm going for
Speaker 1: push your teeth. Okay, well over kiss. This is different flowers. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's true. She's balanced podcasts or radio podcast I mean,
Speaker 1: we're using that for a drop, giving me that against
Speaker 1: somewhat a trick question, but it's a very simple way
Speaker 1: to answer this. Loyalty or respect. I love this question.
Speaker 1: It's a highly debated question here. Technically you can't have
Speaker 1: loyalty without respect, so then that means it would have
Speaker 1: to be respect. Okay, yes we should. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: drink this everything, yes, yes, yes, yeah. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you. I love that game. I see the slime
Speaker 1: when the camera, we got it up in the camera.
Speaker 1: Tell me who quick time? It was just it. You
Speaker 1: want to bro they deserved they did it in they
Speaker 1: were about dot X them all owed them like this.
Speaker 1: We called Lamar after the show. He was throwing up
Speaker 1: so much that we didn't even use it. But he
Speaker 1: did talk on the show. No, he finished the show.
Speaker 1: He could believe it was such a g he threw
Speaker 1: up and then continued the interview. Now, I do think
Speaker 1: that you want to missing some buckets like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know, but I really, I really just I want
Speaker 1: to let you know, like Swiss is my brother, Like
Speaker 1: me and Swiss, I've been down with Sin. I was
Speaker 1: the first record outside of Rough Riders, you know that
Speaker 1: that he worked with. It was, you know, because all
Speaker 1: of his first early music was just with Rough Riders.
Speaker 1: And I was down with Swiss so long that they
Speaker 1: used to call Swiss Dee's nephews, like he technology didn't
Speaker 1: even have a name, and um, like that's how you
Speaker 1: knew him? Yeah, I knew him. That's that's what they said.
Speaker 1: They said, the nephew. And I remember Swiss coming to
Speaker 1: the studio and him playing band from TV and I
Speaker 1: never let the beat drop. The beat has you know,
Speaker 1: so it's a loop. And we were too thirsty, like
Speaker 1: we were starving m sees. And it was crazy because
Speaker 1: Nature came, he laid the verse, Cameron came, No, Pun came.
Speaker 1: Pun came and laid the verse, and I went downstairs
Speaker 1: to smoke a cigarette and Pun just laid a verse
Speaker 1: and I was just mad at point. I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm erasing that. He's like, you're gonna erase that and
Speaker 1: then this is the classic cam. And then I always
Speaker 1: say this to people and I say, Swiss me and
Speaker 1: Swiss made that. Swiss is still mad at me to
Speaker 1: to this day. Nothing that everything men. And he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we live. Let the beat drop because what
Speaker 1: I rhyme knowing was the loop that to live from.
Speaker 1: He never drops. So whenever I put somebody on or
Speaker 1: wherever I try to, like you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: put somebody onto game, I say, I go, look at
Speaker 1: Swiss and I showed him. I say, look, this is
Speaker 1: my friend. We're really friends. And he's still mad at me. Look,
Speaker 1: never dropped, never really dropped. Never, he said, the engineer looped.
Speaker 1: So the beat never dropped to the beat, never dropped.
Speaker 1: He's never forgetting. Don't get it twisted. We're friends, but
Speaker 1: never never never. That's yeah, it's just a loop. Yeah
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, I keep on my card. This is
Speaker 1: your right. I say that to say, how passionate he is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, me and him, we moved on. We have
Speaker 1: successful careers. We had, you know, so much beautiful thing
Speaker 1: happened in our lives in our career, and he'll still
Speaker 1: tell me, you know, I didn't like it. Imagine how
Speaker 1: that felt for him as a producer early on too,
Speaker 1: that you didn't even run to the beat, like when
Speaker 1: you just moved your face. It's just like so so sorry.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, get him, why did you
Speaker 1: like the face you made? Just that was like only ship.
Speaker 1: I just felt fucked up, Like imagine earlier was his career.
Speaker 1: And He's like, I'm gonna give my il beat. I
Speaker 1: think you didn't even do Really, do we have a
Speaker 1: version with the beat? Because the beat is I got
Speaker 1: it some rais, I got it somewhere. Listen. I also
Speaker 1: have all right. By the way, this was from TV
Speaker 1: was a record because I made on the firm album.
Speaker 1: I made I'm leaving on the Firm album and that
Speaker 1: was Nature session. So I wanted to repay Nature back
Speaker 1: but put him on my record. So he kept coming
Speaker 1: to the studio Swiss and I knew it was. I
Speaker 1: knew Swiss was the guy wanted to make this record.
Speaker 1: So Swiss would play a beat and Nature would just
Speaker 1: standing there, and you know, Swiss cells to ship out of.
Speaker 1: Swiss can play you mouse's screen and you will buy
Speaker 1: the record. Like the little guy Swiss me look at it,
Speaker 1: and he won't make eye contact. He just looked at you.
Speaker 1: You like this, he wills it and listen. I've done
Speaker 1: I've took beat tapes home. I knew beat was it mine?
Speaker 1: But he just like that, Normy, you need this and
Speaker 1: that's what I can't rb bow you got me. He's like,
Speaker 1: you didn't like you liked it at the studio. I
Speaker 1: said the way you popped your head. Disagree. So now
Speaker 1: he says that he's the most passionate person. He's persuasive. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what virgo, y'all, Virgo is a virgo virgos of fight.
Speaker 1: I loved how he was proud. That's how Virgo. That's
Speaker 1: pretty proud. Sweet, one day you'll connected, what's your son?
Speaker 1: A query is the best song? A curious your what's
Speaker 1: the clarious? She's your wife? Your wife is in a
Speaker 1: cy She's a Gemini the Gemini, Yeah, criminal, criminal, Penny
Speaker 1: has anybody even on a Gemini? Kanye West, it's it's Kanye,
Speaker 1: he made it known andres and Gemina. Ken drink is
Speaker 1: a Gemini. Biggie's a Germinie, not a Germinie. No, just fectary.
Speaker 1: But there's a difference between jun and major. I'm a
Speaker 1: major and I'm biggie, I'm big, okay, amazing, a little different,
Speaker 1: like a little little gentler around the edges. We didn't
Speaker 1: respond to go crazy, so let me ask right because um,
Speaker 1: and this is I just want to just keep it
Speaker 1: on you and Swiss beautiful relationship, Like you have a
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship. I admire that. And you're live in Tony
Speaker 1: Stark's house is sucking fantastic, not to big confusied ghost face,
Speaker 1: not to confusing like this, just take it from that
Speaker 1: because we've see like white living. Oh that was called
Speaker 1: architectural excuse me, that's okay, so and so, because this
Speaker 1: is a really like a dream come true, like like
Speaker 1: like I heard Swiss tell the story I forget where
Speaker 1: interview he said, he said that he wanted this house
Speaker 1: became available, and this is like his dream house. This
Speaker 1: is your dream house as a family, and y'all live
Speaker 1: on the beach and it's Tony stuff. This is iron man.
Speaker 1: The kids always asked me, is Tony Starks suit in
Speaker 1: the house. I was, yes, beautiful house. Listen, listen. I
Speaker 1: grew up with my single mother, who raised me, who
Speaker 1: prayed for my survival, who hoped that I wouldn't get
Speaker 1: trapped in the streets, and like we all did. Yes,
Speaker 1: And here we are today. You're giving me flowers, we
Speaker 1: have a toast, we drinking Dominican herbal excellence. We are
Speaker 1: celebrating the greatness that we've created. We have been able
Speaker 1: to make it out of the mouth of the harshest jungle.
Speaker 1: And so when when I'm able to and my husband
Speaker 1: and I are able to be in a home that
Speaker 1: really represents our wildest dreams, to me, this represents our beautiful,
Speaker 1: our blackness, our excellence, and what we all have. We
Speaker 1: all have this endless ability to create anything that we
Speaker 1: can imagine, and so and so that's what I believe,
Speaker 1: and that's what that represents to me. It represents to me,
Speaker 1: this this possibility that all of us have. And there's
Speaker 1: nobody that can't tell if they try, they try to
Speaker 1: make us think we can't, we won't, we shouldn't, we
Speaker 1: don't deserve whatever this bullshit is. That narrative is old,
Speaker 1: is fake, it's not even whatever. We can imagine, whatever
Speaker 1: we dream, we have the capacity to create, and I
Speaker 1: feel blessed that we get to represent that. Let let's
Speaker 1: be let's be honest here you seen the picture of
Speaker 1: you when you were young in your room with all
Speaker 1: these with my headphones on, and like the works for it,
Speaker 1: like you worked for it. You were how young you?
Speaker 1: How old were you in that picture? Do you know
Speaker 1: the one with SP behind her SP SP twelve hundred
Speaker 1: which I program personally. Wow, So you were learning how
Speaker 1: to make beats on all those machines a machine and
Speaker 1: had an a SR. We had the aid that. Then
Speaker 1: I transferred to the MP and then I got to
Speaker 1: the three thousand. I'm still one more than envision it.
Speaker 1: Just to think about it. You applied yourself my ask.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a big different that. You're right, you
Speaker 1: definitely have to work for it. For sure. There's nothing
Speaker 1: that's gonna come easy for nobody. You know that. You
Speaker 1: know that, y'all all know that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that we don't have a tenacity,
Speaker 1: the genius, to brilliance, the possibility, to the potential to
Speaker 1: work for what we want. And I love what you're
Speaker 1: saying because that's true because people do think, well, it's
Speaker 1: supposed to fall in my lap, because why, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we definitely do have to work
Speaker 1: for our ship, and we work hard to this day.
Speaker 1: I work my ass off and I but I believe
Speaker 1: in what I do, and I love what I do,
Speaker 1: and I love connecting with my people, and I love
Speaker 1: being able to share, and I love being able to
Speaker 1: write songs that means something to somebody in fifty years
Speaker 1: down the line, that means something to somebody. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm here to do. And I'm and I'm never going
Speaker 1: to jump out my lane. This is my lane, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna always, you know, bring more to it because
Speaker 1: that's how I believe in it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I love what you're saying with Little Wane. The
Speaker 1: song is so why did you wanted to name it
Speaker 1: Na King? So? Na King Cole? Can you explain to
Speaker 1: people who don't know Naing? Which is so fire because
Speaker 1: like even my kids they they mommy, who's Na King Cole?
Speaker 1: And a lot of people won't know who that can
Speaker 1: call this And obviously he's one of the greatest singers,
Speaker 1: you know, black amazing singers that ever existed. Rivals Frank Sinatra,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if there was a if
Speaker 1: there was a rival to Frank Sinatra, to me, it
Speaker 1: would be Nacking Cole and his song is called Unforgettable,
Speaker 1: one of his big, big song you hear that Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's like one of your favorite songs. You might not
Speaker 1: know you love it, but you love it. And Unforgettable
Speaker 1: it's such a sophisticated, elegant song. And unforgettable is the
Speaker 1: is the title of it. And this the concept of keys,
Speaker 1: is that we get to be almost majestic, magnificent version
Speaker 1: of ourselves. Nobody can make us be small, nobody can
Speaker 1: make us not be incredible. And so this side of
Speaker 1: being unforgettable, we are unforgettable. We're amazing. Look what we create,
Speaker 1: Look what we do, Look what we have been through,
Speaker 1: Look what we've come through. We are unforgettable. And so
Speaker 1: that the hook is be unforgettable like that, King Cole.
Speaker 1: And that's why I called it that King Come. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing to learn about who you might
Speaker 1: not know, or who you might forgot or you know,
Speaker 1: because time passes and people forget. But you gotta remember
Speaker 1: that's part of why we do drink champs, to be
Speaker 1: honest with That's that's a really important thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you've got records a little way nah,
Speaker 1: jay Z, is there ever somebody you tried to work
Speaker 1: with and said told you know, well, I'm pissed that
Speaker 1: I ain't get to that I didn't get to perform
Speaker 1: with with Prince. I'm pissed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like we was meant to
Speaker 1: perform together. He came on my shows, he loved me,
Speaker 1: supported me, and I'm you think it's your fault to
Speaker 1: not invite him on stage. Maybe I think maybe I
Speaker 1: was shy. You know a lot of times you feel
Speaker 1: like you don't deserve because he's infamous for impromptu stuff
Speaker 1: and he called me to his his Okay, in that case,
Speaker 1: you're right, because we did have one where he asked
Speaker 1: me to be at one of his kind of after
Speaker 1: party things. But I wanted us to have like a Grammys.
Speaker 1: I want us to have like a moment we deserve,
Speaker 1: the moment in history, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I gotta say we had we had an unforgettable time
Speaker 1: and when his kind of like secret joint switches, which
Speaker 1: was mine, but I have pictures from it. It's crazy, um,
Speaker 1: but but that one, I still feel like me and
Speaker 1: Lauren are meant to know what I mean, yes, why
Speaker 1: has Lauren not come up in this comment? Because she
Speaker 1: is greatness personify, So me and her, there's something that
Speaker 1: there's just such an emotional energy as she brings, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we could have something really really crazy.
Speaker 1: Has anybody told me, no, no, fantastic because we had
Speaker 1: had the same teeople and the only person he said
Speaker 1: that did front on him was friends, and he said
Speaker 1: it wasn't because he didn't want to do the record
Speaker 1: with him master because didn't own his masters, and he
Speaker 1: he was real like that. No. He I had the
Speaker 1: song that I had called like You've Never Seen Me Again,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite songs. It does have
Speaker 1: a progression very close to Purple Rain, and I had
Speaker 1: to go see him. I flew out to London. He
Speaker 1: was in like this hotel and had to find it.
Speaker 1: Like this is never an easy thing when you look
Speaker 1: at for friends, So I had to find him. I
Speaker 1: had to sit with him and I said to him, like,
Speaker 1: I love this record. It's so powerful. I wrote it
Speaker 1: for my grandmother. It's about like taking seizing the moment
Speaker 1: and not letting it go and loving the person like
Speaker 1: you might never see them again, because you know how
Speaker 1: the short life is and so he felt it. He
Speaker 1: was good and he was like, Alicia, I'm not sending
Speaker 1: these people's children to college. All my ship, it ship
Speaker 1: is deep. And he said that to me, it was like,
Speaker 1: how could I argue? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: how could you? I was like, And so he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you need to do. Flip the
Speaker 1: cords up, change them around, make him like close but
Speaker 1: not quite. And I promise you I will be fine
Speaker 1: with it, but but I can't. I can't. We have
Speaker 1: to we have to own our ship. He was he
Speaker 1: was way ahead of his time. He was way ahead
Speaker 1: of his time, Like I feel like he would have
Speaker 1: flourished now now it's now, it's his time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I mean? Because he
Speaker 1: was about this forever we're finally getting around. He'd been there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: it kind of started with Jay with like you know,
Speaker 1: claiming its ownership thing, and it made us like, you know,
Speaker 1: even with us with drink chaps, like we love being
Speaker 1: a revote because vote allowed us to be who we
Speaker 1: want to be. You understand what I'm saying. And they
Speaker 1: do it so um, was that something that changed you? Here?
Speaker 1: And Prince say that like you know it was big. No,
Speaker 1: I definitely think, you know, as a young artist, because
Speaker 1: Michael wasn't as vocal as that. Michael owned the Masters,
Speaker 1: Like I heard, Michael's buying other people's published. He was
Speaker 1: like catalogs of different type of publish type, like some
Speaker 1: type of grazing ship. But even Michael was passive aggressive.
Speaker 1: I would say he didn't want to rattle to the boat,
Speaker 1: but Prince was not. Prince was asked out and everything
Speaker 1: was like maybe Michael didn't care about that portion of
Speaker 1: the business. He's like, all right, whatever the record, but
Speaker 1: he was buying up Michael, he was buying up other
Speaker 1: people's publishing. So in his don't owned like Elvis publish.
Speaker 1: I think he about the Beatles. Yeah, yeah, in his
Speaker 1: mind he's like, that's the way I'm gonna take back. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: He was a silent act of it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like a sign activist where he just move.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something, where do you put
Speaker 1: your Grammys at? Like? Why was that not without expect him?
Speaker 1: So for the for the longest time, I didn't even
Speaker 1: want them. I just I just I just the way
Speaker 1: that I am. I'm such a real person. I don't
Speaker 1: want a bunch of fake statues to represent some something
Speaker 1: that's not real. What's real is you know your passion.
Speaker 1: What's real is how much you put into what you do.
Speaker 1: You yourself said you haven't got a Grammy. You deserve
Speaker 1: a grammytminated. There's so many people who deserve a Grammy.
Speaker 1: I'm so good of good in life because other than that,
Speaker 1: I would be a hater, like I would be hate
Speaker 1: does And so for me, I didn't even want them
Speaker 1: to to to to be a value of value, you know,
Speaker 1: a sense of value for me. So I didn't happen.
Speaker 1: For the longest time. My manager had them all in
Speaker 1: his house. And finally my engineer, who's amazing, she's as
Speaker 1: bad as woman who's a who's just like she runs
Speaker 1: the whole world. She's incredible, she said, where's your Grammys?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I guess they're over at
Speaker 1: that person's. She was like, I need you to get
Speaker 1: your Grammys. Okay, I'm saying you forgot what your grammys
Speaker 1: is that. I just love that floor, So I just
Speaker 1: love that. I love you can see them over pill
Speaker 1: right back there, because I've seen Jay one time he
Speaker 1: posted his Grammys on the floor. Okay, do you ever
Speaker 1: have those type of moments where you're just like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna just use my ship as an ass tray.
Speaker 1: I mean, Swizzy did the dude things where he liked
Speaker 1: I was there. Kanye said he pissed on this. He
Speaker 1: went to Good Luck I did. He say, you want
Speaker 1: to crazy as that boy ship? So what were you
Speaker 1: call working on in New York? Oh man, we was
Speaker 1: working on a zone okay, whole You know, I work
Speaker 1: all the time. I worked to the last minute. I
Speaker 1: keep writing records. Regardless the record drops December tenth, It's
Speaker 1: going to be so crazy. And even after that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's more songs that come. I just I just love music.
Speaker 1: So we were working on a vibe that may or
Speaker 1: may not make the record. We don't know because I'm
Speaker 1: that spontaneous. But he came through. He loved the record.
Speaker 1: Actually that only you record it, really, it really takes
Speaker 1: him to that. He had to rubber boots. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if they were rubber or leather. Are the rubber
Speaker 1: or leather? But they were high. I'm gonna drink to that, so, Alicia,
Speaker 1: because I mean, honestly, this is probably the only question
Speaker 1: I can ask you or bust the rhymes like in
Speaker 1: a real in a way, what are you love more
Speaker 1: making them? I gotta say bust up? First of all, Yo,
Speaker 1: can we please give him his flower? I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: but I just want to get the way that he
Speaker 1: cultivates energy is out of this world. Out of this world.
Speaker 1: So what's my my favorite? Is making the record or
Speaker 1: performing the record? D That's such a good question. I
Speaker 1: feel like making it, you have this personal experience with
Speaker 1: it that really feels magical because it's like you're by yourself,
Speaker 1: where you're with three or four people, and there's something
Speaker 1: about it that you're like, I really feel something in this.
Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know if you're gonna like it,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna like it, you like, you have no idea,
Speaker 1: but there's something magical that exists that you feel like,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something special with here. When you
Speaker 1: perform it and you get a chance to see how
Speaker 1: people actually connect with it, it's it's mind blowing you.
Speaker 1: Like this thing was invisible six months almost like sen
Speaker 1: the gun that you bought because you don't really know,
Speaker 1: is that? Yeah? I kind of like, I'm sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know some people, you know, you buy a gun,
Speaker 1: How did you really know if this work? Like shoes,
Speaker 1: shoes and the shot and then shoot? You like that feeling?
Speaker 1: Like that feeling, because that's always I always felt. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the best anality of her in my life. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was always trying like a motherfucker no that I
Speaker 1: got it, because you know, you're excellent performer, thank you.
Speaker 1: Like I've always watched your performance at these shows. When
Speaker 1: you come out, you got the piano on, I said,
Speaker 1: piano on you. But like you've never had a lame performance.
Speaker 1: That's why I hear you like the Buster rhyn I've
Speaker 1: never seen Buster have friends. He just performed for Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle and he just he just did for twelve minutes
Speaker 1: and I don't know what he did. Yeah, gone, holy ship.
Speaker 1: He said that he never headlined a tour, you know,
Speaker 1: And he told me he never rehearsed. Did you believe that?
Speaker 1: I was like a legend. He literally is the best,
Speaker 1: potentially one of the best mcs that ever ever ever,
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's still could spit just like
Speaker 1: that right now, because you know why motherfucker is scared
Speaker 1: to go after Boston. Oh and you can't go you
Speaker 1: know what. That's it, that's the reasons exactly. That's what
Speaker 1: he should headlined the tour. Yeah, but then anybody never
Speaker 1: come back on Tuesday. He carries on Tuesday. Everybody gonna listen.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I did a show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna ship. I did a show. This is
Speaker 1: real talk, This is real, real talk. In San Francisco,
Speaker 1: Don o'mar came to the promoter and said, if I
Speaker 1: go after North, I'm giving them money back. What what
Speaker 1: he didn't know at the time, Donald War was he
Speaker 1: was bigger than me in this Latino market. But people
Speaker 1: were so scared of that ship. Was smashing ship, he told.
Speaker 1: So he made the promotera make me go, so you
Speaker 1: had to go after him. I had to go after him,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't come after dollar was that ship
Speaker 1: he had? What the funk? I didn't want to perform.
Speaker 1: It's the whole fantasy he did. He got me, He
Speaker 1: got got me. It's okay, but okay, I realized, how
Speaker 1: crazy is there anybody who was scared to perform after
Speaker 1: you every everybody love at least it's going in how
Speaker 1: your live. Like. One of the things that the Locks
Speaker 1: pointed out when they their Bottle with Dip set was
Speaker 1: that there were certain records that they were they were
Speaker 1: going over. You never you never lip sync. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: That is a disrespect to your craft, I feel, you know. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very very serious about auto tune too,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I feel that a lot of I
Speaker 1: just personally me, I'm gonna sing the record and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sing it until it's right, and if it's not right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep singing it. I'm gonna practice it, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fix it, and I'm gonna come back and sing it.
Speaker 1: But the but to me, I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people who use auto tune are actually thinking of
Speaker 1: an instrument called the vote colder, which is which is
Speaker 1: which is where it's an instrument that you play and
Speaker 1: you sing into the microphone for it. And um, I
Speaker 1: think Confunction used to use it a lot Like Confunction
Speaker 1: was the way it goes on love Chain. Okay, then
Speaker 1: all the West Coast joints period in the story what
Speaker 1: a what a what a jew when you play there
Speaker 1: all scared to come on? Mr Leading could come in.
Speaker 1: You're the producer, come anybody. I don't even know why
Speaker 1: I was up, so now you're gonna. But but the
Speaker 1: vote quota is like a son a sonic, it's a sound.
Speaker 1: So I feel like a lot of people that I
Speaker 1: use them. Um, I want to try to the exaggerated version,
Speaker 1: which would like to clear we're trying to say that
Speaker 1: people that use oral tone really can't sing. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm asking that's what you're saying. That's definitely what I
Speaker 1: actually am saying, is that I think that people want
Speaker 1: to use it's like a sonic. And so now there's
Speaker 1: a certain sonic that is created and it actually is
Speaker 1: mimicking an instrument called the vote quota, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what's actually fresh. People are discovering what the original,
Speaker 1: which is like making a completely different instrument of your voice.
Speaker 1: Exactly what you're saying is and this is what it is,
Speaker 1: the original auto tunes. You never you never heard auto
Speaker 1: tunes being used. It just it made Yeah, it helped
Speaker 1: their vocals like match the beat or what you would better,
Speaker 1: you would just make you more on pitch. But I
Speaker 1: actually don't think people are trying to be Yes, they're
Speaker 1: trying to be on pitch to a degree, but more
Speaker 1: it's like a sonic. It's a sound. It's part of
Speaker 1: how it's used. Now nobody heard it at all exactly
Speaker 1: and now it's like intentional, you know, because it's a
Speaker 1: sonic at this point. But it really made the vocoder,
Speaker 1: which is the Roger trout like sonic. Which is fine.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. We had tricked Daddy here
Speaker 1: and tried dad that he thinks Beyonce is a great performer,
Speaker 1: but she can't sang. I disagreed with him, and totally
Speaker 1: I think he said a little differently though what he
Speaker 1: actually said, I think I disagree. No, he didn't say
Speaker 1: it that way. He said in comparison to the great
Speaker 1: But what do you hear when you hear things like
Speaker 1: that and then people compare you to the greats? People say,
Speaker 1: Alicia Kasan San You know, first of all, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of we were talking about some of the singing
Speaker 1: singing singers. We were talking about Whitney obviously as a
Speaker 1: destructive beast monster I did. She was a friend. She
Speaker 1: was a friend, and I really really really loved her,
Speaker 1: and she really came to see me and check on
Speaker 1: me and make sure I was good and visit me
Speaker 1: and like real ship, which is rare. Um. So she's
Speaker 1: definitely a singing sing before. We're talking about SWV Coco
Speaker 1: Coco with I mean, I feel like Coco was singing
Speaker 1: so many people to the day under the table quick fast.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. We're talking about Jasmine Sullivan. I think she's
Speaker 1: like she had those vogos out are so crazy, Fantasia ridiculous,
Speaker 1: you know. So there's a lot of amazing singers. I actually,
Speaker 1: I actually do feel that b is one of those singers.
Speaker 1: If she shipped it all. But she happens to be
Speaker 1: a show woman as well as showman, you know, so
Speaker 1: she does show. You know, she she's visual, so she
Speaker 1: likes to really show how she's expressing. But if she
Speaker 1: sat or sat next to a piano and you and
Speaker 1: I played and she just sang, sing, sing, I do
Speaker 1: believe that she can absolutely hang with the greats. Like
Speaker 1: she has a voice that backs up everything. Like really,
Speaker 1: if she stripped it all back, you would you would
Speaker 1: really hear it, you know what I mean. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think She's one of the greats for sure, Big Love.
Speaker 1: But is it funny when they compare you to the
Speaker 1: to the singer of singers like like and I can
Speaker 1: read the like you know, like like the like classic.
Speaker 1: I just feel so grateful to continue on that legacy,
Speaker 1: you know, that legacy of that songwriter, that that individual.
Speaker 1: Unique artists, you know, like a Nina Simone, you know,
Speaker 1: like these these artist that really they had something to say,
Speaker 1: They had a perspective that they operated from. There wasn't
Speaker 1: backing down for nobody like they wasn't fitting in anybody's box.
Speaker 1: It wasn't trying to be commercial. It wasn't about that.
Speaker 1: It was about like what do you want to say?
Speaker 1: Who are you? And how do you express? And so
Speaker 1: for me to be compared to artists like that, he's
Speaker 1: a lot like means a lot. And I don't take
Speaker 1: that for granted. That's a that's a that's something I appreciated.
Speaker 1: But let me ask, are you so bad? I know
Speaker 1: how you started with the scratch? You know, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's about the because you Swiss and Drake got this
Speaker 1: kind of awkward kindly relationship Swiss Drake and her. Yes,
Speaker 1: you didn't recerenspection. You didn't red Drake. One thing that's
Speaker 1: missing on the tables. Water Yeah, drink your water. We
Speaker 1: got a drink chance water. It's water. It's like it's okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, with a shoutut Tequilas, just like so yeah,
Speaker 1: because you guys did a record three of us. No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you and you, you and Drake right
Speaker 1: the record we did unthinkable, okay, and then Swiss and
Speaker 1: Drake did a record they did which was out of
Speaker 1: this world. Both of those was out of both of
Speaker 1: those was out of this world. But we have Swiss
Speaker 1: on here. And this was when we was in New
Speaker 1: York and he said something about Drake. We edited it out,
Speaker 1: we didn't use it. But I was supposed to say
Speaker 1: that I don't know we're gonna back. No, it's because
Speaker 1: and this is when I was learning how to be
Speaker 1: a journalist. I was learning how So when Swiss asked me,
Speaker 1: I said, no problem. But I knew that when you
Speaker 1: put energy that get that into this world, it comes back.
Speaker 1: So what happened was he had put this energy out
Speaker 1: and I guess he expected Drake toler back and say
Speaker 1: something back. That never happened because we edited it, and
Speaker 1: I told you, as I said, your listen, I would
Speaker 1: never put you in the predicament where I would get
Speaker 1: you in trouble. So I wanted to use it. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy. But it wasn't crazy when he said
Speaker 1: he was put together. Then two months later because he
Speaker 1: put the same energy out, he didn't and then he
Speaker 1: was on Live with Bust the bus and it was
Speaker 1: like I called him immediately. I was like, I told you,
Speaker 1: let me use this ship. You would have never said
Speaker 1: what you said on the bus to live if you
Speaker 1: want to, just let us because because we were literally
Speaker 1: had Drake signed up for like the next two weeks
Speaker 1: or something like that on the next two months. So
Speaker 1: we was we didn't that's go crazy one because that's
Speaker 1: my brother and to like, we're protecting our old prayer.
Speaker 1: So then that's that's that's this comes out. I see,
Speaker 1: I'll see Swiss. I call him. I say, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: this was a little weird energy. It's because you're happy
Speaker 1: at it. He agree with me. It's me and him.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is it's sent a relationship in
Speaker 1: a bad sort of sort of energy. You're in his relationship. No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking okay, okay, Swiss and drinks. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: saying Swissen and dricks because because it's sent where it
Speaker 1: made almost look like Swiss was attacking him, and they
Speaker 1: didn't have the backstory of what happened with Fancy or
Speaker 1: what happened you felt was more explained on drink chairs.
Speaker 1: You basically salty. How he feeling about it didn't get
Speaker 1: me back. I was sent there. I I said that,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know if you could ask
Speaker 1: with it was that morning that came out and I said, Swiss,
Speaker 1: this is what I told him. He said, no, us right,
Speaker 1: I should have just left it. And I said that
Speaker 1: you do not want you to do because the next
Speaker 1: morning after the Bosster thing, what a lot of people
Speaker 1: were saying was, oh, Swiss is hating. You can't hate.
Speaker 1: You can't hate if you up. There's not a up hater.
Speaker 1: It's not really so on losers, there's not really so winners.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, there's not that word. Thank you. You understand
Speaker 1: about dylexia. You are you are connected with me, but
Speaker 1: they can't be really so when it's so, you know
Speaker 1: that said Swiss, can you to be a favor and
Speaker 1: he goes, what's up. I said, post your beautiful wife,
Speaker 1: post your beautiful cause, and post your beautiful house. And
Speaker 1: they don't even a dress it. And I think he
Speaker 1: actually listened to me. But the thing was it sent
Speaker 1: this relationship because all of your three very famous people.
Speaker 1: What is your take on the direct situation? My sake
Speaker 1: on Swiss is that he is the most real human
Speaker 1: on the planet. Ask anybody, there's not he's on the
Speaker 1: phone with people that he loves at three in the morning,
Speaker 1: come to bed. But he's on the phone with people
Speaker 1: because they need him, because they're going through something and
Speaker 1: they need somebody to listen. I probably definitely name of
Speaker 1: name name. He shows up for everybody times a million.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a loyalty or respects being a loyalty
Speaker 1: to respect like him that people people love him in
Speaker 1: a way that I never experienced before. There's a real connection.
Speaker 1: He can call you tomorrow, he can call anybody and
Speaker 1: say my brother blah blah blah blah blah, and it's
Speaker 1: a real thing. There's some fake industry bullshit because it
Speaker 1: serves you at the moment. He's one of the v
Speaker 1: realist person I've ever met. So so my perspective on
Speaker 1: him is that he's always going to speak his truth
Speaker 1: because whatever he's saying, there's their validity behind it and
Speaker 1: beside it. He is absolutely the most genuine person and
Speaker 1: he's he's thorough. You know, he's the realist of the
Speaker 1: real He tells me, the realists of the real can
Speaker 1: go out without a dollar in a pocket and be good.
Speaker 1: And that's who he is. That's that's so um. Hold on,
Speaker 1: when do we get to go to the back? I'm
Speaker 1: going right now, like should we should we be rapping
Speaker 1: up so I can go three? You can take a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, a few more, I got
Speaker 1: more ready. You're really trying to get me chose up
Speaker 1: a little late. I was just be clear, and you
Speaker 1: know what I bet. Let me just say so we
Speaker 1: all let me. That's gonna be honest with you. We
Speaker 1: all said we do this for heavy artists, and we said,
Speaker 1: is Alicia gonna be late? Every one of us said
Speaker 1: she was gonna be on time except for one person
Speaker 1: him right there, boris right, he said she's gonna be
Speaker 1: I was a little late. So he's the only one
Speaker 1: that the only everybody's believing me, thank you, especially me.
Speaker 1: I was like she she's going on time here two
Speaker 1: hours earlier. You can go to the bathroom. Yes you can't. Please,
Speaker 1: let's make sure you're good. Get back. Gonna fill up
Speaker 1: you because you we we realized your drinking is do
Speaker 1: so we're gonna fill you up. Get you got some
Speaker 1: some hallo pegos. You're gonna get you some hollee feneos
Speaker 1: and we're gonna m h. And now for my next number,
Speaker 1: I'd like to return to the class. You want to
Speaker 1: give people they flower. So when you hear people saying
Speaker 1: giving their flowers, and we made that, you made up
Speaker 1: a statement. We made up making that face because we
Speaker 1: wanted to look at in their faces, tell them how
Speaker 1: great they are and not be ashamed. Flower. I love this,
Speaker 1: by the way. I love that this is your house.
Speaker 1: Any time you want to promote, anytime you want, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything. But um, was this intentional for the video?
Speaker 1: You don't know my name when you was the way
Speaker 1: the waitress and you didn't have the name Tad You see?
Speaker 1: Is that very simple? Really? Yeah, because we got to
Speaker 1: picture of it, I just didn't have a name. Because
Speaker 1: is that the reason why I didn't know your name?
Speaker 1: That you know what Chris Robinson direction video. It works. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that's why they hit it. My
Speaker 1: name Name done. You're right, you got something miss let's
Speaker 1: up to. But again, when I'm listening to the new album,
Speaker 1: I'm as a person that's a veteran, as a person
Speaker 1: that's seasoned in this game, I sit back and I
Speaker 1: want to find ross. Sometimes with people that's been in
Speaker 1: this game, what did you say? Ross? Like? I want
Speaker 1: to find something like Sometimes when I look at a
Speaker 1: person that's done incredible albums back to back to back
Speaker 1: to back, I want to say, all right, cool, well
Speaker 1: let me listen to this and let me see where
Speaker 1: you're starting to fall long where and don't have that? How?
Speaker 1: How how do you develop that type of like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make the most incredible product again after all
Speaker 1: these years you've been fifteen, you know, Grammys, ninety million records, soul,
Speaker 1: How do you still have that hunger? How do you
Speaker 1: still have this? You know? Um, this this this this
Speaker 1: classic material with meat and potatoes where it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's exactly what's needed to be heard right now? How
Speaker 1: how do you maintain that? First of all, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for recognizing that, because that takes effort, you know,
Speaker 1: and care, and so I really appreciate you recognizing that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I feel like I've always
Speaker 1: cared about the art. You know, I've never even really
Speaker 1: been here to be It's never been. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be famous, you know. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be like you know. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: know me, just because you can't even realize the reason
Speaker 1: why you know me. I really want what's good. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad look at you. We got big vibes. Nothing
Speaker 1: but real love, nothing but real love. Nothing but thank you, brother,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so happy to see your face.
Speaker 1: That made me smile from real like that was a
Speaker 1: real smile. I didn't expect that. That was a sweet surprise.
Speaker 1: I love it. And they're trying to get me twisted
Speaker 1: over here. But but I'm a champion. They don't know,
Speaker 1: they don't even know. I love you, brother. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to see that's fired. That's fired, you know, to
Speaker 1: piggyback off of what he's asking you right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: I knew I was being a parent. Now how do
Speaker 1: you balance creativity being a parent? Now, you know, I
Speaker 1: probably during the pandemic is when I really learned that
Speaker 1: like I needed, I needed to have to carve out
Speaker 1: time for myself. And you know, you get so worried
Speaker 1: about everybody else and you want everybody be good, and
Speaker 1: the world is so strange and we don't even know
Speaker 1: what's exactly what and what's tough from bottom or what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen tomorrow or whatever and so um, and so
Speaker 1: I just realized that it's just that's important for me
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're good is as important it
Speaker 1: is for me to make sure that I'm good, because
Speaker 1: if I'm good, then they can be great, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's something that I think for
Speaker 1: us as women, especially because we offer all the caretakers
Speaker 1: and we're the ones that's really putting the most time
Speaker 1: in and everybody, you know, creates the energy around the family.
Speaker 1: But I think that it's important for us to know
Speaker 1: that we have to make sure that we're good too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's something that I
Speaker 1: learned recently and just was reminded of, especially with the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and especially when kids was out of school and you
Speaker 1: was trying to be the teacher and the mama and
Speaker 1: my kids were so mad at me. That's like, you're
Speaker 1: so mean, you know. It's like, I'm not me. You
Speaker 1: are trying to play me, and I need you to
Speaker 1: get good done to the pandemic and the way was
Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise for a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so for sure, regards to time,
Speaker 1: in regards to appreciation, and regards to really recognize in
Speaker 1: the real you know, we get so lost, we get
Speaker 1: so lost, and the fakes ship ever, it is fake,
Speaker 1: it really is. There's nothing about it that's actually real
Speaker 1: until you realize that people that actually love you and
Speaker 1: will actually they don't have any profit that they're gonna
Speaker 1: gain from you. They don't have any you know, anything
Speaker 1: that they're going to get from you being good, you know,
Speaker 1: except that you're good. Like that's the most precious thing.
Speaker 1: So with the kids and with the family and balancing that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. I leave and I feel like
Speaker 1: and they're like, mommybody have to leave, and I'm like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure it's worth it because me
Speaker 1: being without them, you know, it's hard, you know for
Speaker 1: any parents to leave their kids and you go to work,
Speaker 1: you going to school, you're trying to put your extra
Speaker 1: work in. It's it's hard, but if it's worth it
Speaker 1: because you you have something to say, and you've got
Speaker 1: something that you represent, and you've got something that you
Speaker 1: want them to learn and see, then you know, then
Speaker 1: it then it feels good. And that's what I can
Speaker 1: tell them. I can tell them going to bring like
Speaker 1: this energy, you know what I mean, so people can
Speaker 1: feel it, so that so that we could keep rowing,
Speaker 1: you know, all of us. Did you find any any
Speaker 1: writer's block moments? Yeah, I couldn't write shit. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, no, the same so much. I mean
Speaker 1: I would be on these because you know, I put
Speaker 1: out the Alicia albums during the pandemic, and at first
Speaker 1: I was like is this right? Is it's not put
Speaker 1: out a book too? And I was like is this right?
Speaker 1: I mean, people can't even pay the rent, Like what
Speaker 1: am I doing? Am I going to ask him to
Speaker 1: buy a book? But I believed in the book, and
Speaker 1: I believe that it was about finding who you are
Speaker 1: and choosing who you are, especially now we got to
Speaker 1: choose who we want to be. So anyway, I'd be
Speaker 1: on these interviews and maybe like, so aren't you just
Speaker 1: so creative Alicia? I mean, my gosh, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all this time at home, you must be writing a song,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hell no, I can't write now one song.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I'm stressed out. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I feel. That ship is crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. I was not only creative, no,
Speaker 1: like not even in the littlest bit. I was grateful
Speaker 1: that I finished the record because I actually just had
Speaker 1: the records already that I could, you know, connect with.
Speaker 1: But like if I was supposed to write new records,
Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't can remix and say this
Speaker 1: diapers on fire and that wouldn't work. That's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: So now, But I definitely felt like confused about how
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be creative and how I supposed
Speaker 1: to find time for myself and that type of thing.
Speaker 1: Do you still feel like that or you feeling like
Speaker 1: you're kind of getting a one year old and a
Speaker 1: three year old. That's just the majors. What's hard of
Speaker 1: being an artist or being a mommy, being a mother
Speaker 1: and be a mother? Yeah, why I think that you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, like you are creating and raising a mind,
Speaker 1: a spirit of being a person. Multiple people who need
Speaker 1: who have from ways of experiencing life. They you know,
Speaker 1: they depend on you to help them equip themselves with
Speaker 1: what it's gonna take for them to survive, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And and and that's a real thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. That's a it's
Speaker 1: a real thing not to be taken lightly. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's everything I say I'm reconsidering.
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I should have talked to him like that?
Speaker 1: I was too hard on him. I should have like
Speaker 1: explained more. Dang, why am I? Why am I so upset?
Speaker 1: When he's laughing, you know, and I'm and I'm piste
Speaker 1: off because he's talking about like this nasty ship because
Speaker 1: he's a six year old boy and they talking about
Speaker 1: all types of crazy ship and I'm mad. But I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been mad. I should just laugh with him,
Speaker 1: like I should just laugh who cared? You know? And
Speaker 1: sometimes there's so much that you're thinking of, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like am I doing it right? And my giving them
Speaker 1: what they need? You know, is it right? And I
Speaker 1: think we're doing our best and doing our best. We
Speaker 1: don't know everything. We boys don't clean their wrong Let's
Speaker 1: be clear, they're gonna clean that wrong clean. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna be some sloppy as boys not having it you
Speaker 1: you'll be check because it's one year old. Side. He
Speaker 1: still don't well he did that, that's his fault. We
Speaker 1: got someone one to three over here. It's so good.
Speaker 1: We haven't such a good time. It's amazing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm loving it. They're really trying to
Speaker 1: get me to do all these toasts and drinks. He knows,
Speaker 1: he knows, he's been three, he said. I look a
Speaker 1: little bit. He does know me, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm still elegant queens, so it doesn't even know. He's
Speaker 1: so sweet to call he over here? Have people called you?
Speaker 1: You're all happy? You know happy? How did they drink
Speaker 1: like this every day? This is a live Should we
Speaker 1: send him to the spa? I'm going whatever he said,
Speaker 1: whatever were going to He's going, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: You're so brilliant, You're so genius, making me about to cry? Good?
Speaker 1: Everything great, We're definitely having fun. My favorite part was
Speaker 1: all the questions he asked me. I think he caught
Speaker 1: me out there with outcasts and mob deep. That was
Speaker 1: a really hard one. Somehow women don't casts. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I heard him the same mob deep until
Speaker 1: after I said outcasts, which is fine? Are they both great? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hold on, Swiss, I'm telling I'm telling something. She pushed,
Speaker 1: she picked, push her t over kiss though kids earlier.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get some phone calls. Get what you said,
Speaker 1: push your well, she's a fat This is dope. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for my brother. You know I love
Speaker 1: you man. I'm told the story how long we know
Speaker 1: each other, how you've always be my brother. But I
Speaker 1: also told the story that you never forgave me for
Speaker 1: not loving to be drop? Do you have the virgin
Speaker 1: where the be drops? Can we find that? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: got it somewhere. You have to I got it somewhere,
Speaker 1: Indi or someone. The greatest thing is I'm great old.
Speaker 1: I never even realized I'm great with all perfectly, perfectly crazy.
Speaker 1: So I want him to find the version with the
Speaker 1: bee dropping. I'll sing you you better find him. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it up, make it recreate. He don't let
Speaker 1: the drink. I'm gonna go back in the studio. Thank
Speaker 1: you for everything, my brother, thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get me back in the studio for real,
Speaker 1: because I wanted rather I can't the next album that's
Speaker 1: my and I know has and SCRAMs here and I
Speaker 1: love y'all want of my like not last album that
Speaker 1: people do um swiss and p. Yeah, I wanted my last.
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna do it. The two of
Speaker 1: my my, my two producers who curated me. I used
Speaker 1: to work here. I just learned that work by the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was about to ask her about the no commission?
Speaker 1: Is a no commission coming to art Basil? Not this year?
Speaker 1: Not this year? Why? Because like I didn't really know that.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta plan ahead, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: plan a head. So I didn't know how COVID would
Speaker 1: would act, you know what I'm saying, and like to
Speaker 1: put all that working for them to shut it down.
Speaker 1: I definitely got Oh, like I'm in Saudi, man, putting
Speaker 1: up all of the um all of the artwork for
Speaker 1: the different artists, you know, on on the F one
Speaker 1: track and stuff like that. So that's pretty big. So like,
Speaker 1: you know, let me give it a break for this year.
Speaker 1: Let's see how the COVID play out and make sure
Speaker 1: you're gonna come back strong. All right, Well, well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for calling this Swiss. We know I
Speaker 1: love you, my brother thinking so much. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the queen is doing the queen head and she's gangster,
Speaker 1: my brother, thank you so much. Really, let me just
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't want to give you your flowers please.
Speaker 1: I like them, I really do. I don't have a
Speaker 1: box made, but I just want to tell you, but
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that I'm super super proud
Speaker 1: of you, like thank you. I know you, and I've
Speaker 1: watched you and I've racked to your music. I've turned
Speaker 1: it up in my six to six on me like
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. The first time the super thunk
Speaker 1: drop and I was in the the damn gas station
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget, I was like, what what? What? What?
Speaker 1: What was this? And that's how I felt? What what?
Speaker 1: And anyway, I just want to tell you I'm super
Speaker 1: super proud of you, and I'm grateful for you. And
Speaker 1: I see a trajectory and it's unlimited to super powerful.
Speaker 1: You are incredible. I see what you're doing. You're consistent
Speaker 1: and you and I love what you're saying about giving
Speaker 1: people their flowers, why they're here. It's supposed to thank
Speaker 1: you so the way, thank you so much. And um,
Speaker 1: let me just be clear. You know, we just looked
Speaker 1: at this game as it's terrible that people have this
Speaker 1: word washed up. Like ten years in this game, people
Speaker 1: will say you're washed stuff like there's no word like
Speaker 1: that in Rock and Rolled up. There's no word like
Speaker 1: that in Jet Jazz, Like like what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say Sam Cook is washed up? How can
Speaker 1: Sam Cook be washed up? So we wanted to change it.
Speaker 1: And you know, the more that you've done in this game,
Speaker 1: we want to praise it, we want to salute it,
Speaker 1: we want to do that to your face. We don't
Speaker 1: want to do that when a person that's passed away
Speaker 1: and you're hands down the biggest artists female artists that's
Speaker 1: ever stepped here. And let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: Although we're friends, I love your husband all that this
Speaker 1: does not go without warranted. This does not mean that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't it means less because we're friends and were
Speaker 1: family and where were This means more because you really
Speaker 1: could have did Oprah like I'm going to your husband earlier,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you listen, you know my wife
Speaker 1: could have did Oprah. And I was like, I got
Speaker 1: to hang up right now because I was like that
Speaker 1: it's actually true. I might have picked open over to y'alla,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like when you would
Speaker 1: have picked up over you, I said me, Oprah, Nori
Speaker 1: maan fuck Nori mean And I come back to them later.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I might have been and
Speaker 1: and this is crazy because I have to thank artists
Speaker 1: like you, Karanye, you know the naz Is, and you
Speaker 1: know who's sitting around and says, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the hip hop media and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: visit that because you know, in the honestest and the
Speaker 1: honest way, when the video, when the interview was so great,
Speaker 1: they take our bits and pieces of the interview anywhere.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to kind of do fifteen different outlets.
Speaker 1: You could do one powerful, great interview and it brings
Speaker 1: the power to I don't want to say black Latino.
Speaker 1: I want to say hip hop because it's bigger than
Speaker 1: a race. To me, It's like it's bigger than just
Speaker 1: claiming to be black or Latino or even white or
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. Remember it's wherever hip hop conversation, a conversation
Speaker 1: one of completely thank you and and and it's so
Speaker 1: professional you did it because, like I said, this is
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. And you could have just
Speaker 1: just hit swears, but you did a professional You had
Speaker 1: management the public. I felt so special. I was like,
Speaker 1: they sent me now. And by the way it took
Speaker 1: me twenty five minutes to download this ship that she
Speaker 1: was the most complicated, by the way I could not
Speaker 1: fold it to nobody to say welcome Nori, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is mad, but I appreciate your team. I appreciate
Speaker 1: I really, you know, thank you. You know what I'm saying, because, um,
Speaker 1: the one thing about us is we have a great platform,
Speaker 1: but it kind of seems like a boys club. And
Speaker 1: this is not a boys club. This is as much
Speaker 1: as your show as anybody. I mean, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is yours working. This is a club. And I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that you chose, Like I really, like, I was
Speaker 1: so happy, Uma. I studied you so much, like I
Speaker 1: can't lie to you, like I'm you right now, Like
Speaker 1: it's gonna take me. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: two days. Like I'm just like I was calling Swiss.
Speaker 1: This was just like what kind of christis? We were
Speaker 1: plotting on you And that's why I knew. Like I
Speaker 1: was like really in, I was like, he's plotting with me, said,
Speaker 1: she's bringing the ice out today, normal and SI, you
Speaker 1: can't ice down, You're ready to go, so let me
Speaker 1: let me just say something. So we got the new album, Yes,
Speaker 1: what's next? After we conquered movies? Um. I had a
Speaker 1: friend say to me the other day, he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I conquered or my bucket listen, And it sucked me
Speaker 1: up because if you conquer your bucket, Liss, where did
Speaker 1: you go from? I'm gonna actually that did you conquer everything?
Speaker 1: When your bucket listen? You know, I always feel like
Speaker 1: there's more to learn. I always feel like a student.
Speaker 1: I always feel excited about what I could bring, what
Speaker 1: new I can experience as well. Um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things up my sleeve, for sure. I got a
Speaker 1: lot coming and a lot of amazing ideas coming. I
Speaker 1: definitely every day I'm learning more about myself and who
Speaker 1: I want to be in the world. You know, and
Speaker 1: it and it shifts and it evolves and it changes.
Speaker 1: So I'm definitely having conquered my bucket list. There's like
Speaker 1: a lot of dream and left. So what's on your
Speaker 1: list that you have a cocket? I want to do
Speaker 1: a really incredible Broadway play like writeing and performance perform
Speaker 1: right create called Alicia. I'm gonna tell you the name. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the name. You're the only person
Speaker 1: that knows it. Yeah, I don't worry about these people here,
Speaker 1: I know you will. But it's such a good name.
Speaker 1: It's called Hell's Kitchen. Killed that killed that. Nobody will
Speaker 1: ever know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, way play. I really
Speaker 1: want to focus on generational wealth. I feel like that
Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn for all of us. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the times we don't have the tools
Speaker 1: or the information that allows us to really get ahead.
Speaker 1: And I really want to focus on that, like in
Speaker 1: a in a major way, so crafting and creating ways
Speaker 1: that that happens and everything I do, but in everything
Speaker 1: that the people that I partner with, in the ways
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people are open to
Speaker 1: really equalizing the scales and and that we understand that
Speaker 1: that there's been years of of incorrectly done ship and
Speaker 1: inside of fixing, you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: really into that. So I really I'm learning about that
Speaker 1: and I'm figuring out how to crack that code and
Speaker 1: really make that a real thing. So that's deep. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there's so much to don't
Speaker 1: want to have a lot of fun too. I just
Speaker 1: want to I want to live and I want to
Speaker 1: be president. I want to be president my kid's life.
Speaker 1: I want them to know me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want them to be like, oh yeah, her who
Speaker 1: was always going you know what I mean. I really
Speaker 1: want them to know me, and they do. I'm good
Speaker 1: at it. I'm really good. I see you doing a
Speaker 1: great job. Crypto are you? Are you in the crypto?
Speaker 1: I am. I'm just getting my wallet, that's what you
Speaker 1: call because they told me get my wallet. I'm meant it.
Speaker 1: I think that I think we just have to diversify.
Speaker 1: I think we have to understand everything. You know, we're
Speaker 1: about to release our cards Culture Fire, So that's like
Speaker 1: the like the Amex that like's it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: trading cards, like n f T trading cards, and you
Speaker 1: can create your virtual record label, shout out to culture
Speaker 1: cards and we're part of that. It was definitely we
Speaker 1: were talking about the meta and all this virtual ship
Speaker 1: that's happening. It's major, it's major, But how do you
Speaker 1: feel about it? Like does it freak you out? Because
Speaker 1: it's kind of freaks me out a little bit. I
Speaker 1: need to understand what freaks you out? I think what
Speaker 1: freaks and maybe it's just I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure that we keep being actually in touch with each other.
Speaker 1: You have to be freaked out, you know what I
Speaker 1: have to know. What I'm saying is that ship actually exists?
Speaker 1: Huh whatta you gotta relax you And and the n
Speaker 1: f T is Netflix. Yeah, yeah, I don't get it. Dude,
Speaker 1: that was Dominican. Here's a question. Can I please taste
Speaker 1: that dag on you to? Oh, I'm gonna take another
Speaker 1: shot in another you just take a show. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a with that. Wait, why why aren't you frecking in?
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. I'm concerned about the metaverts.
Speaker 1: I don't think do you remember when everyone was dying
Speaker 1: and Dominica listen to these guys in my cheer But
Speaker 1: I was in the medic with the head Dominican, wasn't
Speaker 1: we in the Medica where everyone was dying? It's what
Speaker 1: you describe with the tiger bone. No, it is not sweet.
Speaker 1: It's not it is. It's very sweet. I can tell
Speaker 1: you drinking. Do you drink Jaine's whiskey? Sometimes? I like whiskey.
Speaker 1: I like whiskey, like McCallen. McCallen, that's American whiskey. Oh
Speaker 1: that's Irish whisky. All right, that's what I likes. Very
Speaker 1: that's very the best pussy come from. I I like, yes,
Speaker 1: we could tell thank you don't cheap ship. Don't gonna
Speaker 1: be no cheap ship when I get there. But you
Speaker 1: also you also like Delion too. Ye, He's like, are
Speaker 1: we doing this? You are Swiss? Lusk Swiss. Y'all are
Speaker 1: too cute? You like, you're so scared that Kanye smoke
Speaker 1: you run off some dreams. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: the question that I'm wondering. They told me you big
Speaker 1: who WHOA Like? I opened it and there's morning. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't worry. I got your back. I
Speaker 1: got your back. You don't got to do all that
Speaker 1: to get the weather, all right, So here's the question,
Speaker 1: what is this part? It's called would that be tobacco?
Speaker 1: It's called your back on because it's fake tobacco. That's
Speaker 1: a vegan tobacco. Tobacco. I don't know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I think it's true. And then and then what
Speaker 1: great or strange right there? It's a great smoke Champs strain.
Speaker 1: It is called grown in the Mountains of Austria. I
Speaker 1: would prefer the Medican Republic road Roadman Republic next to
Speaker 1: the Mama Hauna Brandon. Now, I do appreciate the wooden filter. Yes,
Speaker 1: we would like for you to a spar that. Because
Speaker 1: Kanye smoked the prototype. This is the actual one, that's
Speaker 1: the real ship. So you will be the first one
Speaker 1: that ever smoked that on smoke chairs. So I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be called finishing. I don't even be calling.
Speaker 1: I don't want to whatever. Whatever. Whatever, Yeah, my god,
Speaker 1: is it going on? Can we play? Yeah, let's make
Speaker 1: sure I'm not gonna cough. No, you ain't gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna we edited that. We have a don't worry me
Speaker 1: and Swiss is edited in this episode. Anyway, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. We got your back I heard, I heard,
Speaker 1: I heard you're a big time smoker. That's what they
Speaker 1: said on the low. So this is actually the awkward question.
Speaker 1: Do you tell me if it's awkward? Would you ever
Speaker 1: think about making a reggae album? Oh my gosh, I love.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a lot of reggae records
Speaker 1: that I've made that it's natural for me. This back
Speaker 1: to the soul vibe that we were talking about. It's
Speaker 1: such a soul that it's such an energy there. No
Speaker 1: one had a crazy reggae remix. You don't know my
Speaker 1: name at a crazy roots remix. There's so many songs
Speaker 1: that I have that I feel like that's natural. I
Speaker 1: actually think a reggae record would be like a zone
Speaker 1: for me. So are you going to change your name
Speaker 1: like Snoop Lion? What would be? What Tiger? It would
Speaker 1: be Alicia Panther's. Yeah, for sure, I'm buying the album already, Panther.
Speaker 1: Let what's pretty smooth? What is your ultimate thank you?
Speaker 1: We ourselves? If we canna work with anybody dead or alive,
Speaker 1: who work with anybody? Who would it be? Let's pick three?
Speaker 1: All right? If it was anybody that are alive, I
Speaker 1: feel like it would be Kurt Cobain, I can see that.
Speaker 1: Nina Simone, Marvin Gays what an amazing wait wait I
Speaker 1: changed it. You go five, okay, Nina Simone, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go high five Marvin Gaye, big Gil. I feel like
Speaker 1: that would be so crazy. And Nipsy she's going Boba beyond,
Speaker 1: she's killing it. That's because I was late. That's fine,
Speaker 1: You've got me so coldly ship. That is a great
Speaker 1: that's a good list. That's all. And you know I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, but I felt like it was obvious.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Bob, Bob is so special, Like
Speaker 1: how can how can one person be so pro thinking,
Speaker 1: like so willing to share the truth? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And and and the thing about this is
Speaker 1: related to you because like it's certain records that you
Speaker 1: can drop at any moment, like you don't know, my
Speaker 1: name can drop right now and they'll be saying real
Speaker 1: like you make timeless like transcend yeah, like like like
Speaker 1: like when I listened to you, and I really did
Speaker 1: a study because, like I said, Jimmy ko Swiss is
Speaker 1: your husband and he's my friend. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do my I wanted to do my due diligence, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to go, and I'm asking them questions, is
Speaker 1: how I got the the the you would rate kwon
Speaker 1: being that I'm going in, I'm going in and I'm
Speaker 1: going in. But it's like, um, like you really make
Speaker 1: timeless music. So as I'm going through, because we had
Speaker 1: the at least the keys are centrals. This is the
Speaker 1: list of just your hits, and it's like when we
Speaker 1: listen to it, because that's what we do before artists
Speaker 1: walk in and we sit there and we're sitting here
Speaker 1: and we're all listening to it because we've all set
Speaker 1: up at three o'clock, so we all set over here three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're here at three. But it was like, damn, your
Speaker 1: music is really timeless, like you could have there's certain
Speaker 1: of your albums you could drop right now and it's
Speaker 1: still relevant, Like how the fund did you do that?
Speaker 1: And now are you doing it on purpose? Or I
Speaker 1: just like kind of what we kind of left off
Speaker 1: on it what you asked me. And I think you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not chasing anything. I'm not chasing a trend, I'm
Speaker 1: not tracing a sound, I'm not tracing anything. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: chasing the truth. You know, I'm chasing my truth, I'm
Speaker 1: chasing my honesty and just following that. So I think
Speaker 1: that that's what allows it to just be honest. When
Speaker 1: someone's honest, you can feel it forever. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like it don't matter. It's just like that was that
Speaker 1: person's feelings in that moment. So I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what it is. But I appreciate you saying that because
Speaker 1: that's actually a really big accomplishment. I didn't know that then.
Speaker 1: I realized that now, like when people can actually be
Speaker 1: six years old, twenty years old, thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: sixty five years old, and they can all relate to
Speaker 1: the same music, that's like, that's something. So I don't
Speaker 1: take that for granted. And let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: Your fans are very nice people. Yes, yes, yes, but
Speaker 1: I you know, I was so open when on Twitter. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was open on Twitter, and um, Twitter is the
Speaker 1: most evilest people in the world. So I go on
Speaker 1: Twitter and I say, we got Alicia. You know, you're
Speaker 1: the only person. That's why I said your fans, you're
Speaker 1: the only person with no negative comments for people were
Speaker 1: first off telling me I was lying, like you ain't
Speaker 1: got ever, and there was a leak there was you
Speaker 1: have a fan page on Twitter, it's like Alicia fans.
Speaker 1: And then they said it's rumored that she's gonna be
Speaker 1: on Drink Chams and everyone's like, yeah, you're fans this
Speaker 1: I know. No they real listen, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: who else. It's Kanye and Little Wayne. Little Wayne has
Speaker 1: nice fans too. Yeah, they asked for permission, like they asked.
Speaker 1: They like, when's the next part of it? Dropping like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're fans, Like, no, no, you're fans. When I put
Speaker 1: and I popped the bottle of Asia Spaine and I said,
Speaker 1: we gotta be prepping for Alicia and I'm playing your
Speaker 1: music in the background, and they just hit me on
Speaker 1: the d M, like, yo, y'all her fans. Yes, they
Speaker 1: I mean in my mind, just let me ride my story.
Speaker 1: They were just like, yo, that's crazy that you got.
Speaker 1: And again, it's just like, I want to reiterate what
Speaker 1: your husband said. It's just like you're really that status
Speaker 1: where you can go do Gail King, you can go
Speaker 1: do Ellen Degeneral, you know, you can go do whoever
Speaker 1: the hell you want, but you picked drink Chick. I believe.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I'm gonna say something this is.
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound weird, but just robbing me for
Speaker 1: the story because my mom's my mom's had never asked
Speaker 1: me to ever meet anybody in this game. And my
Speaker 1: mom's asked me to meet Big Pun and I told her,
Speaker 1: I said, mom, that will always be around. And I
Speaker 1: never did it. And I never got a chance to
Speaker 1: beat my mom's the Big Pun for this. It's another thing.
Speaker 1: My wife never asked me to be any artists, and
Speaker 1: she asked me to be Alicia and I like that,
Speaker 1: and I never got a chance. Look she's blushing over there.
Speaker 1: I never got a chance. I went to um there
Speaker 1: was an art basil show. I know, I pronounced our
Speaker 1: basil and you had just performed and he was in
Speaker 1: the back and I didn't get a chance to to
Speaker 1: do that. So today is my day of my wife
Speaker 1: and my girl came to and she if a girl
Speaker 1: come out for nothing. She was here and she wanted
Speaker 1: time to roster. Girl came out all the females because
Speaker 1: we really this is really daughter. Yeah. Randy AKA came
Speaker 1: out and he was managing and by the way, he
Speaker 1: was made a little mama. At that time, he was
Speaker 1: managing a little mama. I called him so much, y'all,
Speaker 1: what's going? But I called hippify million times, like with
Speaker 1: mad jokes I had sent to every men that ever
Speaker 1: was sent to me. I was like, not, this is
Speaker 1: the look this like, honestly, I'm gonna be honest. Yes, please,
Speaker 1: I have done those shows multiple times. I just have
Speaker 1: to say this is like, this is the vibe. Is
Speaker 1: this it's a real thing. I'm gonna take a shot
Speaker 1: to that. Yes, but Atlicia, let us just say something
Speaker 1: one more time. I really appreciate you showing us this
Speaker 1: love because again, it's bigger than a race thing or
Speaker 1: something like that. It's hip hop. Hip hop is to
Speaker 1: me its own race. I actually want to I actually
Speaker 1: want to get a job, Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: need a job, but I want to get a job.
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, what race, Chill, relax, it's my career, Relax.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a job. And when they asked for
Speaker 1: the box to check, I want to check hip hop, like,
Speaker 1: because there's certain people we should started just doing that,
Speaker 1: started to push that that that's maybe white, there's certain
Speaker 1: people that that but then just as hip hop as me.
Speaker 1: But you know when when Michael Mex would say so called,
Speaker 1: so called, so called white man, so called black man,
Speaker 1: so called, I really that means something to me because
Speaker 1: it is a so called that's a name, that's names
Speaker 1: we've been given by whoever didn't care anything about us,
Speaker 1: any of us, whichever so called we became. So that's
Speaker 1: not so called human. Let's come on, let's just go
Speaker 1: back to the basics. That's for sure. I love that.
Speaker 1: Let's go, cheers, Let's go. What is that is that?
Speaker 1: I actually went back to this one just for safety.
Speaker 1: Mama wanna will take care of you. Trust Now, I
Speaker 1: gotta taste delicious. I just wanted to sake. The mixing
Speaker 1: is because I gotta act. I can't drink tequilla. I
Speaker 1: love tequiller. It's just so smooth, especially with the right
Speaker 1: good tequilla tequila that you need to stop. Okay, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me example of a wrong tequilla. Julio. No, no
Speaker 1: Julio is great. I like Don Julio, I likes I
Speaker 1: like Causto meges and I like I'm getting a little nervous.
Speaker 1: A cast of me goes because every hoody person. I know.
Speaker 1: They're not. You're a mega at a bottle. The worst
Speaker 1: people in the world I know is broken around with
Speaker 1: a bottle of cast of meges. It immediately makes me
Speaker 1: not want to drink back. This one definitely has. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's become universal. Yes, yes, so and look
Speaker 1: congratulate to them. Yes, because a lot of people getting
Speaker 1: money and so you recommend no Cassams, No, that's not
Speaker 1: what I said that you did. This is what we're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he's doing, but nonetheless, that's the
Speaker 1: tequila that I like it when it's you know, when
Speaker 1: it's high quality, is smooth, and it doesn't it can't
Speaker 1: feel like it burns you and hurt you. If it
Speaker 1: hurts you and burns you is the wrong kind. Okay,
Speaker 1: And have you ever mixed your tequila. I'll do soda,
Speaker 1: but I don't like to mix it with like a
Speaker 1: bunch of fruity juices and ship We noticed you put
Speaker 1: halapeeno like a spice margarita. Margarita has too much sugar
Speaker 1: for me. But the halapenios you need to try it.
Speaker 1: You should try it's slowly I'm going to take a
Speaker 1: little bit more vegan. But but it doesn't take a
Speaker 1: little bit before you end the show. Yes, I wait
Speaker 1: for you and when you come back. He he just
Speaker 1: takes random bees. He just does He just does it.
Speaker 1: He just he loves it. He drinks, he drinks blonde ale.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about guys. Yes, yes, yes, it is.
Speaker 1: But I like that you invited the ladies into the zone.
Speaker 1: I like that I'm able to represent ladies in his zone.
Speaker 1: I love that we can talk about different space. You see,
Speaker 1: it's like a protect this safe space. You're treating me
Speaker 1: super queenly, kingly and you know, let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. I was going to have two females throw
Speaker 1: roses at your feet. You walked out, and I was
Speaker 1: trying to do to come into America right right right,
Speaker 1: And at the last end, they was like, but that's
Speaker 1: might be too much showing favoritism to the Yes, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I was wooded. I was going. I was going with it.
Speaker 1: But then it was like, all right, they wage tones down.
Speaker 1: But how I see it, it's never too that's never
Speaker 1: too one. Live boldly, bravely and share shower people shower
Speaker 1: bold bravely, b B. I appreciate the thought no, I
Speaker 1: swear to God, you can not to do it. No.
Speaker 1: By the way Kanye gave his glasses to hed been
Speaker 1: the same sense it shower, don't want to know. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay. No one told me not to
Speaker 1: do it yourself doubting. No. I just was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're sure. And then people was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe don't make it too much because yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I sold. But it's okay, you know why,
Speaker 1: because we really and you really said the president. I
Speaker 1: know I said that word a little wrong that you
Speaker 1: said that President. Yes, but you said want we want
Speaker 1: more female orientation. We understand that we have a lot
Speaker 1: of men. It's because you know, I'm gonna layal man
Speaker 1: and I don't have female numbers. It's just that that's
Speaker 1: a nationally thing. But it doesn't mean we don't want
Speaker 1: females to participate. You understand what I'm saying, that we
Speaker 1: want females to participate. And you you set, you set
Speaker 1: the motherfucking want. Let me be the example. Yes, you
Speaker 1: was so open. I'm still open. I'm still excited. Um.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we have people that's our family that
Speaker 1: never come out and they came out. That's for you
Speaker 1: in here today. I feel like the rest you are
Speaker 1: really feel do you take it on the shot you
Speaker 1: got Wanda left over? Alright, It's just this is this
Speaker 1: our cheers to this is the classic show because you
Speaker 1: gave us everything we needed. We definitely take pictures and
Speaker 1: promo because I don't have people do when they drunk.
Speaker 1: That's the show. By the way, you're I'm not yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm actually okay. I'm gonna go out and get some
Speaker 1: dinner or some ship. But Alicia, I'm so thankful. I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful. Um you know, I'm thinking of this jay
Speaker 1: Z Biggie Small skit where he said you could have
Speaker 1: been anywhere in the world chose to be here tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll never forget this moment. Like I said, my wife
Speaker 1: is so you know, she's so not industry, so the opposite,
Speaker 1: so much about you. She's so not industry and like
Speaker 1: you're literally the only person said I would gotta meet
Speaker 1: to me, and it's like, I remember what I messed
Speaker 1: up with my mother. My mother asked to meet Big Pump,
Speaker 1: and I would never make that mistake again. I love it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying just because I'm close to
Speaker 1: someone doesn't mean I shouldn't, you know, answer to the
Speaker 1: duties of the duties being done. And tonight I would
Speaker 1: like to introduce you to my wife. Let's go, I would,
Speaker 1: but before that, I would like to thank you face
Speaker 1: to face. I know how important you are, I know
Speaker 1: how big you are in this industry. I know how
Speaker 1: you can change a person's life. And you sitting down
Speaker 1: with us, and we had to be worthy to a
Speaker 1: certain extent. But the fact that you chose us and
Speaker 1: we really respect that, We really love that. I want
Speaker 1: to tell you to your face and you're making us
Speaker 1: worthy because, like I said, at any time you ever
Speaker 1: want to promote anything, if you want to promote your
Speaker 1: your little toe pink you want to promote that, paint
Speaker 1: it for you. Don't worry about it. We're paying it
Speaker 1: for you. And we're promoting the ship out of this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell a little pink toe nails, n n
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. We really thank you, We really because you're
Speaker 1: empowering us and that's what the culture needs to do.
Speaker 1: Is you know, we're part of the culture. This is
Speaker 1: a DJ, this is not um. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people who don't understand that his name is DJ
Speaker 1: e Fn, and people misunderstand the DJ park. This is
Speaker 1: a real DJ. This motherfucker will take He doesn't DJ
Speaker 1: because he loves Vinyl. He's really like he's stuck in
Speaker 1: the ways, and that's a beautiful way because that's real
Speaker 1: hip hop. Like I know for a fact that if
Speaker 1: I asked him the DJ my birthday party, he's coming
Speaker 1: with Vinyl, you know. And I love that. I love
Speaker 1: his integrity and it's we're really the new Arab B
Speaker 1: and rock him and we're trying. Yeah, yes, yes you
Speaker 1: want to Yeah. So so I really want to thank you.
Speaker 1: I really want you to know how much you mean
Speaker 1: to us. And like like we said, we're learning on
Speaker 1: the job where we're not journalists. It's a DJ. We
Speaker 1: have no idea what we're doing. We have no idea,
Speaker 1: but but we know what we're doing. We have no idea,
Speaker 1: but we know what we're doing. And when we have
Speaker 1: opportunities like this, we ain't never gonna go this unguarded, unloved,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. We wanted you to
Speaker 1: know that we really appreciate appreciate it, right and We're
Speaker 1: gonna go hard. Come on, Wenna. That's why I hate
Speaker 1: the chairman, you know, I hate puff Daddy. And I said,
Speaker 1: and I said, Yo, listen, this is the biggest female
Speaker 1: artist we ever had. This is the one of the
Speaker 1: biggest artists. We have artists, not just female. This is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest artists I've had. He said that.
Speaker 1: He faced time me immediately he said, do you know
Speaker 1: that's my system? You know, like he turned it about,
Speaker 1: he turned into it. He was like, your motherfucker, I
Speaker 1: write the way you just told to me. And I
Speaker 1: was like, don't think, said Jesus Louisa. But that's how
Speaker 1: important you are to the country, to the culture, I said,
Speaker 1: to the country, but the country in the world, because
Speaker 1: you did get political one time. You would like hillaries
Speaker 1: man a little bit in the Cuban goodbye. That was
Speaker 1: a tabit of a stretch. But you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: the people sit manou. That was real. That was real.
Speaker 1: So that's all. I really thank you, thank you, We
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. You made my whole. You my whole.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this for whole six years. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this this cool smile. It's only positive smiling, everyone's
Speaker 1: smelling good. I got the good perfume more on today.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Anybody got the air done? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: anybody so we gotta. I'm gonna take a one more show.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you don't work. We're gonna take it for you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take it for you. Over your cub goodbye,
Speaker 1: but let's do it. That was a very very beautiful
Speaker 1: about Congratulate right here, f Congratulations, I love you too,
Speaker 1: dog delivering the biggest d you got a government on. Hello.
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