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Speaker 1: But every one of those, in every one of those charges,

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Speaker 1: Because that person is none other than Robert Mueller. You know,

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Speaker 1: why would he lie? Just stop right there, because he's

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Speaker 1: saying here he stated, I probably knew what was said.

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Speaker 1: He's saying that, I'm guessing you surveiled this. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: you already know. Then the question is if he thinks

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Speaker 1: they know, he's not gonna purposely lie, because he would

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Speaker 1: know what the ramifications of that are would be. Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: General Flynn, question, you know so much information that have

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Speaker 1: been made public, asked if we thought it had been leaked.

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Speaker 1: I replied that we were quite concerned about what we

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Speaker 1: perceived as significant leaks. Well, the only leaks that could

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Speaker 1: have come would have been from those people that in

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Speaker 1: fact surveiled, unmasked, and leaked raw intelligence. I explained to

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Speaker 1: General Flynn my desire, what is his toaff two of

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Speaker 1: my agents interview him as quickly, quietly, discreetly as possibly. Agreed,

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Speaker 1: offered to meet the agents today. We had some discussion

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Speaker 1: about timing, ultimately agreed to conduct the interview at his

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Speaker 1: office in the White House at fourteen thirty, but of

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Speaker 1: course they never went through the General Council, which would

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Speaker 1: be the proper procedure, because James Comey was taking advantage

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Speaker 1: of the quote chaos of the new administration and not

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Speaker 1: following the normal procedures and protocols, so disgraceful. Now, a

449
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Speaker 1: lot of this in Attachment B is redacted to just

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Speaker 1: get a lot of blackout here. And this is the

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Speaker 1: August official three zero two, and a lot of it's

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Speaker 1: blacked out. And the question is why is it in

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Speaker 1: August and where is because the first one doesn't actually

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Speaker 1: give you know, I'm looking at the a attachment here

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Speaker 1: that the Special Council is included, and these are just

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Speaker 1: these shortly memories, shortly written after he met with Flynn

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Speaker 1: and the lead up to it. What are you saying

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Speaker 1: in my hear We're gonna put this up on handy

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Speaker 1: dot com for our folks too. So then they go

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Speaker 1: into Peter Struck was interviewed and blah blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: participating Special Counsel FBI special Agent. The purpose of the

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Speaker 1: interview collects certain information regarding Struct's involvement in various aspects

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Speaker 1: of what was the Special Council's investigation an FBI counterintelligence

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Speaker 1: Struck had involvement several blah blah blah blah investigations. It's

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Speaker 1: hard because now all of this is redacted at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: On January twenty fourth, McCabe told Struck to interview Flynn.

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Speaker 1: McCabe called Flynn at twelve thirty. Flynn agreed to be

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Speaker 1: interviewed that day at two thirty. McCabe may have documented

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Coby was going to tell Yates right before

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Speaker 1: the interview, but she called him first for another reason

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Speaker 1: before he had a chance to call. When he told

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Speaker 1: her the FBI was interviewing Flynn, she was not happy.

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Speaker 1: Struck in the FBI and his partner got access to

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Speaker 1: the White House with the assistance of an FBI White

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Speaker 1: House detail. Flynn met him about two fifteen earlier than agreed.

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Speaker 1: Flynn was alone, relaxed and jocular. He wanted to give

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Speaker 1: them a little tour of the area around his office

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Speaker 1: or and they walked through the West Wing. President Trump

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Speaker 1: and some of the movers were discussing where to place

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Speaker 1: some artwork walk between Struck, but nobody paid attention to

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Speaker 1: the agents. Lynn did not introduce them to anyone before

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Speaker 1: the interview, McCabe redacted and others decided the agents would

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Speaker 1: not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie

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Speaker 1: to the FBI in an interview because they wanted Flynn

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Speaker 1: to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the

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Speaker 1: warnings might adversely affect the rapport, So they told him

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Speaker 1: not to have a lawyer, and they didn't tell him

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Speaker 1: that this was a real interview. Wow, that's how you

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Speaker 1: treat a thirty three year vet. And they already had

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Speaker 1: a transcript at all likelihood. Lynn was unguarded. Clearly saw

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Speaker 1: the FBI as allies. So you can be friends with

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Speaker 1: the FBI, want to help them, but if you say

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Speaker 1: something that they didn't even believe was a lie. But

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Speaker 1: they had the transcript because it was illegally surveiled on

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Speaker 1: masked and leaked raw intelligence, they're screwed. This is the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. You wouldn't know it, would You

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00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: talked about various subjects, hotels where they stayed during the campaign,

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Speaker 1: the president's knack for interior design, talked about the long

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Speaker 1: hours of the job, complained about the politics surrounding it,

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Speaker 1: but Flynn always seemed to work his way to the

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Speaker 1: subject of terrorism. Flynn was so talkative and had so

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Speaker 1: much time for them that Struck wondered if the National

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Speaker 1: Security Advisor did not have more important things to do

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Speaker 1: than have such a relaxed, nonpertinent discussion with them. Wow.

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Speaker 1: It was decided before the interview agents redacted redacted would

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Speaker 1: use the exact words that Flynn used. That means they

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Speaker 1: had the transcript, such as to try and refresh his recollection.

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Speaker 1: If Flynn would still not confirm what he said, they

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Speaker 1: would not confront him or talk him through it. Struck

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Speaker 1: conducted the interview, was primarily responsible for taking notes and

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Speaker 1: writing the Flynn three O two. Throughout the interview, Flynn,

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Speaker 1: at a very sure demeanor, did not give any indicators

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Speaker 1: a deception. He did not parse his words or hesitating

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Speaker 1: any answers. He only had once, which they documented in

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Speaker 1: the three ZO two. Struck and both had the impression

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Speaker 1: at the time that he was not lying. They didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was lying. Flynn Struck Struck as bright but

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Speaker 1: not profoundly sophisticated. The agents left Flynn in a collegial

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Speaker 1: positive way. There was no discussion to follow up. Struck

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Speaker 1: returning the FBI Headquarters brief McCabe on the interview. McCabe

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Speaker 1: Briefcomy Struck was aware Blah Blah redacted later about the

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Speaker 1: FBI's decision to interview Flynn. Shortly after the interview, Yates

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Speaker 1: briefed the White House staff on the Flynn calls they had.

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Speaker 1: It was a setup. Now, the question is this is

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Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan gonna see this the actions of McCabe, No

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Speaker 1: lawyer not tell him that this is a real investigation,

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Speaker 1: using the having the transcript that and it totally being

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Speaker 1: a perjury trap for this guy. Because it was interesting

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Speaker 1: that Mueller had wipe Struck and Pages iPhones clean after

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Speaker 1: he had to get rid of them quietly. This is

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Speaker 1: how we treat thirty three year events. Wow, And they

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Speaker 1: want to just this is their justification, all right, as

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Speaker 1: we roll along, Sean Hannity, show our two right down,

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Speaker 1: our toll free telephone number. It's eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: for one, Shawn, if you want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of the program, if you are just joining us. We

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Speaker 1: now know that in fact, Robert Muller has responded in

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Speaker 1: the case of Judge Sullivan and the request for the

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Speaker 1: three O two's, and it's been handed over and stands

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Speaker 1: by the case that they made that in fact General

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Speaker 1: Flynn had lied, etc. Etc. But they're a certain glance

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Speaker 1: discoveries both in this and that we now know. Number

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Speaker 1: one is that they had a full transcript of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Nobody has ever discussed the surveillance, the unmasking, the leaking

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Speaker 1: of raw intelligence from the Obama administration that they had

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Speaker 1: the entire transcript, or the unbelievable discovery that in fact

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Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe said, yeah, we want to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: but you don't need a lawyer or anything, or the

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Speaker 1: admission by James come almost bragging that they set up

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Speaker 1: General Flynn by you know him, I wouldn't have pulled

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Speaker 1: this in the Bush or the Obama administrations. It's the

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Speaker 1: first week of the Trump administration. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: You look at this White House now and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to imagine two FBI agents sending up in the State Room.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? I sent them something we probably

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a

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Speaker 1: more organized investigation, a more organized administration in the George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol

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Speaker 1: two men that all of US have perhaps increased appreciation

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Speaker 1: for over the last two years. And in both those administrations,

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Speaker 1: there was process, And so if the FBI wanted to

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Speaker 1: send agents into the White House itself to interview a

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Speaker 1: senior official, you would work through the White House Council

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Speaker 1: and there'll be discussions and approvals and who would be there.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it's early enough, let's just send a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys over. Wow, what an admission. And they

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Speaker 1: didn't warn General Flynn that it would be a crime

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Speaker 1: to lie to the FBI. Well, he should have known that.

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Speaker 1: I guess Sillary should have known that a C on

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Speaker 1: an email meant classified. I mean, the double standard always

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Speaker 1: comes into play, doesn't it. Andy McCarthy is here, Fox

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Speaker 1: News contributor, columnist National Review, Former Assistant US Attorney for

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Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York. Greg Jarrett, Fox News

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Speaker 1: legal analysts, author of the number one bestseller of The

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Speaker 1: Russia Hoax. Andy, let me start with you. I am

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Speaker 1: very disturbed at what is clearly to me a perjury

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Speaker 1: trap for General Flynn. Because they had the transcript. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: ever talked about how that was obtained, why there was

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Speaker 1: no minimization, why there was an unmasking why there was

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Speaker 1: leaking of raw intelligence. So that's the predicate of all

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Speaker 1: this that nobody discusses in Muller's submission to the judge

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Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan today. That bothers me telling him he doesn't

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Speaker 1: need a lawyer. That bothers me, you know, purposely going

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Speaker 1: in casually and making a conversational not reminding him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all of it to me sounds like a setup. Sean. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think this stinks. I mean, it's fair enough to

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Speaker 1: say that Flynn should not have lied to the agents.

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Speaker 1: He admitted in Core that he lied to them about

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Speaker 1: a couple of things regarding this. Did he wait, but

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Speaker 1: did he just admit to it as a plead deal

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Speaker 1: because he had to sell his house, he had no money.

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Speaker 1: Did he admit to it because he was being told

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes that well, we're gonna have to investigate

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Speaker 1: you and your son's business if you don't sign this,

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Speaker 1: and he just says, okay, I'll just take the deal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he took the deal because it was in his

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Speaker 1: best interest, in family's best interest to do it, not

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Speaker 1: believing he really lied. I don't think so, Sean, because

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Speaker 1: his claim in court was that he got hoodwinked into lying.

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Speaker 1: Neither he nor his lawyers are saying that he told

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Speaker 1: the truth. He was asked, did you ask the Russians

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Speaker 1: through Kisleyak not to escalate the tensions after the Obama

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Speaker 1: due to the Obama's sanctions. He denied that he had

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Speaker 1: said that, but he obviously did say it because it's

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Speaker 1: on the tape. And he denied that the Russian ambassador

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Speaker 1: had told them that they decided not to escalate out

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Speaker 1: of Flynn's request. So he's not saying that he told

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Speaker 1: the truth about those things. His position in court is

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Speaker 1: that he didn't tell the truth. But what they haven't

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Speaker 1: established is why he was questioned in the first place.

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Speaker 1: It has seemed to me from the very beginning here

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Speaker 1: that there was no predicate to have an investigation of Flynn.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing wrong with Flynn having had those conversations

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Speaker 1: with Kisleyak. It was stupid for him to lie about them,

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Speaker 1: but there was nothing wrong with having them in the

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Speaker 1: first place. And my sense of what happened here is

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Speaker 1: that they intimidated Flynn into thinking that the Logan Act,

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Speaker 1: which is a moribund tools law that has been exercise twice,

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Speaker 1: not successfully. Yeah, And I think what happened was they

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Speaker 1: made Flynn think that he was in real jeopardy if

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Speaker 1: he had had these conversations and discussed these matters with

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Speaker 1: the Russian ambassador because of the the Logangan Act, and

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Speaker 1: that Flynn panicked didn't lied about them. But that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they should have been investigating him in the first place.

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Speaker 1: And they should have told him he shouldn't have a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: I mean that you don't get you don't get to

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Speaker 1: advise somebody like that. They shouldn't have told him that.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, he's a he's

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Speaker 1: was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and he

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Speaker 1: knows you shouldn't lie to FBI agents. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: is there any is there any chance he didn't recollect it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no benefit of the doubt at all

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Speaker 1: here that maybe he didn't have a full recollection Sean

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Speaker 1: he could have gone to Toronto if that was where

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Speaker 1: he was, if that was where he was coming from.

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Speaker 1: But no, but maybe he didn't have the money he

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Speaker 1: had to sell his house. You can always say at

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Speaker 1: the end of a full state, when somebody gets convicted

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Speaker 1: of false statements that it was a failure of recollection.

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Speaker 1: He had the ability to to let gate that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it can't be both that. Uh, you know, it can't

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Speaker 1: be both that. If he if he tells them the truth,

643
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: he should get credit for that. But if he doesn't

644
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: tell them the truth, I just I mean, you know,

645
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: he lied if there was no underlying crime, or wait,

646
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: if there's no underlying crime, claiming Sean, he's not claiming

647
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: now that I'm asking you, though you're you're saying that

648
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: he might have thought it. Believe I believe he lied.

649
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: I no, I understand that. But if there was no

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00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: underlying crime. In other words, the Logan Act wouldn't have

651
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: been applicable, and there was nothing wrong with him speaking

652
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: to his future counterpart. Actually sounds intelligent to me. And

653
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: then Comey is threading the needle doing things he wouldn't

654
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: do in the Bush or Obama administration, and McCabe's telling

655
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: him not to have a lawyer, and the agents go

656
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Speaker 1: in with a strategy that is described in the three

657
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: H two to make them seem like they're their buddies,

658
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. It just seems like a setup

659
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: to me. It's a perjury trap. I completely I agree

660
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: it's a perjury trap, all right, Greg, Well, there are

661
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons somebody pleads to a process crime

662
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: that I regard, as you know, in the scheme of things,

663
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: a fairly minor thing, especially if prosecutors have caused you

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Speaker 1: to go broke, you've had to sell your home, and

665
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: they're threatening to prosecute your son on a different matter,

666
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: So that changes the equation dramatically. But I look at

667
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: this three o two and what I see here is

668
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: that the FBI agents Peter Struck and they blank out

669
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: the other one. We know it's Joe Pienka, which Rosenstein

670
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: continues to hide question mark. They say that they had

671
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: the impression at the time that the defendant was interviewed

672
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Speaker 1: that he was not lying, and they did not think

673
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: he was lying. Now, that is the most important part

674
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: of the fifteen ages of documents that we have. We

675
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: are now seeing it in the three zero two, And

676
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: so my question would be, if I were the judge

677
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: on Tuesday and at Sullivan, I would say, why did

678
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Speaker 1: you prosecute this man for lying when the agents who

679
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: interviewed him determined he wasn't. And I would love to

680
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: hear the answer to that. So that's what jumps out

681
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: out at me the most. Andy you want to respond

682
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: to that, Yeah, I guess you know. The only thing

683
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: that you can say about it on the line front

684
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: is whether somebody tells the truth to agents or not

685
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: is not something that hinges on whether the agents correctly

686
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: predict or judge that the person who they're talking to

687
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: seems to be telling the truth or at least trying.

688
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: They're the only witness. They're the only one, Greg, You're

689
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: leaving out the third witness. Who's the most important witness,

690
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: which is the person himself. And if the person himself.

691
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: If I lie to you, Greg, and you think I'm

692
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: telling you the truth, and then two months later I

693
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: say I pulled one over on Greg, the fact is

694
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I pulled one over on you, regardless of whether you

695
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: thought at the time that I was telling him. And

696
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: they let me ask a serious question. I mean, is

697
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: there any chance he decided to plead to a lesser

698
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: crime of lying, which means he has to say that

699
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: he lied to get his kid off or to get first.

700
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, he can't afford the lawyers anymore. And all that,

701
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you say anything to take your deal no,

702
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: anything is possible. But the point is you think he lied.

703
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: He says he lied, and his lawyers are saying he lied.

704
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: And it doesn't make any sense to me that you

705
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: would take a position in court that I have been

706
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: pressured by the FBI, I've been hoodwinked into the by

707
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: the FBI. As you at all position, Why wouldn't you, sean,

708
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just say I didn't lie? Why would

709
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you go into listen? I agree with I agree with you,

710
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: But again, under these circumstances, are you at all concerned

711
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: a how this was obtained? Meaning they had the transcript?

712
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: I think it's outrageous how it was obtained. Are you

713
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: concerned at the FBI's tactics here, and that means Coomy

714
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: and McCabe basically throwing all normal processes out the window

715
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: to get to this guy when they would never do

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00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: it in another administration this way, correct. I think that

717
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: they had no basis to interview him. I think if

718
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: you're interviewing a guy for intelligence purposes, you play the

719
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: tape for him and then you ask him what did

720
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: this mean? What did that mean? And if you're doing

721
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: it by the book, you call the White House counsel,

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00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: and you say, I want to interview the National security

723
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Speaker 1: see because you're describing as an honest way to handle

724
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: this andy, But they didn't do it that way. That's

725
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: why I think it's a perjury trap. But but is

726
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: that what we're gonna do. But my problem is the

727
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: perjury trap for a thirty three year vet five years

728
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: of combat is just it doesn't rub me the wrong way.

729
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: It makes me sick to my stomach. I'm not saying

730
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: it's right, but to have a perjury trap, there's usually

731
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: perjury involved. And the argument with a perjury trap is

732
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: that it shouldn't have happened in the first place, not

733
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: that the guy didn't commit the full statement Greg Well

734
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: in the three O two document, it it talks about

735
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: how Flynn was unguarded and he was not sophisticated. Those

736
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: are exact words from the three O two document. So

737
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: it also in McCabe's memo that's Attachment A. McCabe admits

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Speaker 1: that he's pushing Flynn not to have a lawyer. You know,

739
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: he's telling him, you know, if we bring anybody else

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00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: in the room, we got to go through the Department

741
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: of Justice, and and you know, and so that is

742
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: pushing Flynn to go solo. And the three O two

743
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: makes it clear that they decided ahead of time not

744
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: to tell him about the transcript, so they're setting him up.

745
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: It's a perjury trap. As Andy just said that, I

746
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: want to respond to one other thing. You know, people

747
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: plead guilty to lesser crimes all the time, even though

748
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: they may not have committed those crimes, and I think

749
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: that's what happened here and again this three O two,

750
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: the interviewing FBI agent. If they do plead, he'll do

751
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: to something they didn't do a lesser crime. Doesn't that

752
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: mean when they go before the judge they can't say, well,

753
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I didn't really lie, but I'm doing

754
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: this because this is my plea deal. But that lawyers

755
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: can make the argument that it appears he was set up,

756
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: that they didn't. They pushed him not to have a lawyer,

757
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: they didn't tell him about the transcript. That's all in

758
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: the three O two. Knowing this Judge Sullivan's history, Greg

759
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: jarrett I suspect he's not happy with these tactics at all.

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00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's going to respond any prediction. Well,

761
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be very happy. Let's

762
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: forget about the fact that there was no basist even

763
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: interview Flynn. But the McCabe memo should is really incendiary

764
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: in front of a judge that McCabe pushed Flynn not

765
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: to have a lawyer, and they deliberately conspired to deceive Flynn,

766
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: that they had a transcript in which he had been

767
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: illegally unmasked. But finally, I, you know, I come back

768
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: to what I said before. This is the first time

769
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: we've seen in print from the FBI that the two

770
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: agents who interviewed Flynn concluded he was not lying. And

771
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: I think that would be a red flag to any judge.

772
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I've got a defendant here. I wonder

773
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: if the judge will will look at the fact that

774
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: they had the full transcript and ask, well, why was

775
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: he surveiled, Why was minimization not practiced and put in

776
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: places as normal? Why was he unmasked? And hul Well,

777
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: the surveilance always happens with any when you're having a

778
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: conversation with a Russian, whether it be a diplomat or Okay,

779
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: but they're supposed to minimize and they're not supposed to

780
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: unmask or or leak the raw transcript of it. All right,

781
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: last word, Andy McCarthy, Well, I think you know the

782
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: judge is going to be I would think upset about

783
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: the whole way that this went forward, But it seems

784
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: to be shown that the big issue here is that

785
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Muller has asked for what the judge is going to

786
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: impose anyway, which is the minimum sentence, which is probably probation.

787
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: General Flynn's going to get no time. But my point

788
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: is that General Flynn is going to get no time

789
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: because of this heroic service for thirty years to the country,

790
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: and yet the story. You don't like the tactics, so Andy,

791
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't have handled it this way by

792
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: a long shot. You don't like it. No, I don't

793
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: like it, and I don't like that The way this

794
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: is going to play out is that it's going to

795
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: look like Flynt got no time because of the great

796
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: cooperation he provided to the investigation. The meantime that won't

797
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: be true gave him much of anything. All right, guys,

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00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: thank you very much. When we come back, Bill O'Reilly,

799
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Joe Concho all coming up. The one thing that we

800
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: do have to you know, we sometimes lose perspective on this,

801
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: and the largest perspective is a case has been built

802
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: this week that the president was not legitimately elected. If

803
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: you look at the Russia stuff and the campaign finance stuff,

804
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: and the fact that forty thousand votes going the other

805
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: way over three states, we now don't know. And that's

806
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: why this is important. It may it's not the campaign finance,

807
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: it's not did they have a meeting in Trump Tower

808
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: with some Russians? Was he legitimately elected? And that's where

809
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: that's what we're all going to have to swear at

810
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the end of this. I think legally, the we already

811
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: now know that the president has committed a felony in

812
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: order to obtain the office of the presidency. He will

813
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: likely not be charged with that. And in part he's

814
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: not going to be charged because even if he could be,

815
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: forget about the DJ policy, Michael Cohen decided not to

816
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: fully cooperate with the Southern District of New York, so

817
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: he's not a witness available to them. Right now, here

818
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: is this extraordinary story of a woman who came to

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00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: this country as an immigrant, as a model, as now

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00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the first lady of the United States, and you know,

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00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: you would think in her rare public appearances, you know

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00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: that some terrible wrong has been done to her in

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00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: this country. I've always been surprised by that air of

824
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: grievance that she carries very publicly with her. The First

825
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Lady is echoing exactly what the President says, and it's

826
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: they're crying. The President has cried fake because he doesn't

827
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: like the truth that's being reported. And now the First Lady,

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00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: who at one point used to see it clearer we

829
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: thought than she is, now security a sense of paranuay

830
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: like I do, how you do, Individual one, it would

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Speaker 1: be interesting to go. I would here, I would definitely go.

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Speaker 1: And if you get a picture off, I mean, let's

833
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: say he gets impeached, it's almost like you have a

834
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: picture with Nixon. It's kind of collector. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just thinking, right, all right, twenty five now

836
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Speaker 1: till the top of the hour, eight hundred nine, pot one,

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Speaker 1: Shauna is our number. How they've evolved from Trump, from

838
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Russia and collusion into a campaign finance. Whatever crime that

839
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: the President committed, it's not a crime if you look

840
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: at the statute, the rules, it's in the law itself.

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00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't include a non disclosure agreement. The law actually

842
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: matters in these things, and with just such passionate, abandoned

843
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: and stupidity, they just report things with a level of

844
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: hysteria and ignorance that it takes your breath away every day.

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00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: It is not what they are saying that it is

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00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: so many in the media. As a matter of fact,

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00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: that goes for any other contract, payment, arrangement, anything of

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Speaker 1: a private nature. It's not listed as a campaign finance

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00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: violation in the course of normal behavior. I'll think about

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00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: this normal behavior that everybody has as a matter of law.

851
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: It was never designed or meant or intended or insisted

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00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: on or regulated to be reported. So all the private

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00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: payments that you have in the world, it doesn't matter.

854
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the amount. They're private, involving private matters.

855
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: As for impeachment, NDA's involving private matters occurring before he

856
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: was even a candidate, are completely unrelated to his office,

857
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: cannot legally trigger the Constitution's impeachment clause. You don't believe me,

858
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: ask Alan Dershowitz or any number of smart attorneys out

859
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: there that we've been talking to. All Right, Bill O'Reilly

860
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: is with us to weigh in on the media aspect

861
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Speaker 1: of all this. He has his brand new book out

862
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: part of his Killing series called Killing the SS A

863
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: fascinating book. I've read it cover to cover, and now

864
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I know why You've been so high on the New

865
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: York Times list number one for many many weeks. You're

866
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Speaker 1: still battling it out with Michelle Obama, though, I say

867
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Speaker 1: for one and two. I appreciate you reading a book, Sean,

868
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: and I'm busy wer you are. No. I love reading

869
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Speaker 1: Success and it is a good piece of history for

870
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Speaker 1: people who are interested in that. You know, the media

871
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: is interesting. It all comes down to one thing. They

872
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: don't really care about the truth anymore. And that isn't

873
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: going on I would see for the last five six years,

874
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: but really accelerated after Donald Trump is elected president. When

875
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: I say they don't care about the truth. When I

876
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: went to journalism school at Boston University, which was right

877
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: after Watergate, there was a fervor to become a reporter,

878
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: and the goal that was stated in my classes was

879
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: your job is to find the truth and state it. Honestly.

880
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: That's your job as a reporter, no matter where you work.

881
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: And that was fine. I wanted to do that, and

882
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: that's why I spent all the money to go to

883
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: be you and get a degree. Now that's changed, and

884
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: it's changed for two reasons. Number one, Donald Trump is

885
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: not a standard issue politician and the establishment in Washington

886
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: hates him because if he's successful, that opens the door

887
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: for other non traditional politicians to achieve power. So the

888
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Washington establishment, the people who make their money off government,

889
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: want to destroy him. The second thing is that the

890
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: meeting chieftains are almost one hundred percent left wingers, stemming

891
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: from the Vietnam War. They are in the position of

892
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: power now and they despise Trump because he's not a

893
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: liberal and you see this. And the third thing is

894
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: that they market to a ideological audience. So MSNBC makes

895
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: its money on liberal people, all right, and to be fair,

896
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: Fox News makes its money on conservative people, so that's

897
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: where their programming goes. But lost in all of this

898
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: is the individual's search for truth. So Donald Trump, every

899
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: single day of his life has to face accusations. Both

900
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: you and I have to face them as well. And

901
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: you know how debilitating they are psychologically and emotionally. And

902
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: the tactic is break him and if we can't break

903
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: him emotionally, then we'll make it so that he can't

904
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Speaker 1: win reelection. That is the media tactic. It doesn't matter

905
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: which true. It's the allegation dujure. I've been saying. They

906
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: now want to use this. This is a death by

907
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: a worst case scenario, death by a thousand cut strategy.

908
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: I would slightly disagree on your analysis about Fox. I

909
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: am a conservative talk show host, but there are plenty

910
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: of other opinions on Fox throughout the day, strongly that

911
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: are strongly on the other side. But I don't see

912
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Speaker 1: any of that diversity on these other channels. Look, you know,

913
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Speaker 1: this is an important question. I am to ask me

914
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: what I do for a living, and I will say

915
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: I am a talk show host. Now, part of being

916
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: a talk show host, Bill is that there are days

917
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: I report news straight up and down. If it's a war,

918
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: if it's a hurricane, if it's some type of violent protest,

919
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm right down the middle, thrown to reporters asking objective questions.

920
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: Other times we do investigative reporting. I think we did

921
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good job vetting Obama when very few would

922
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: exposing the state. When others ignored these important issues. This

923
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: abusive power. I get very strong opinion. That's part of

924
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: being a talk show host. Sometimes we talk about sports,

925
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: sometimes we do pop culture. But at the end of

926
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Speaker 1: the day, I would describe what I do as the

927
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: entire newspaper. But these other shows and these other venues,

928
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: they all claim that they're journalists. They should be for

929
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: twenty three years now. So when people ask me about you,

930
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: and occasionally they do and ask me about you all

931
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: the time, and they're like, what's all Riley like, yeah,

932
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: you get the same on me. I get on you.

933
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: Hannity is a commentator. That does not mean he can't report.

934
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: It does not mean he's not able to give you information.

935
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: It means that his job is to assemble honest information

936
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Speaker 1: and then comment on it. That's what you do on

937
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: radio and television. Now, the fact that you have been

938
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: tremendously successful speaks for itself as far as the Fox

939
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: News Channel is concerned. But you and I were there

940
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: in the beginning of it. And the reason that Fox

941
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: News dominates is because it was the only network in

942
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: television history that gave conservatives a break, that did not

943
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: disparage them and dismiss them as some kind of lunatic

944
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: fringe and conservative traditional Americans, and a good number of

945
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: liberals admired that philosophy and watched the channel. So what

946
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is that each news organization has

947
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: a mandate to bring in viewers. It used to be

948
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: get as many viewers as you can, but now in

949
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: the left wing precincts particularly, it's we're going to destroy

950
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and anybody who wants to see that happen

951
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: is our viewership. So you go out and find stuff

952
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: that's going to destroy Donald Trump. When the network news

953
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: coverage is negative, you know the fixes in he doesn't

954
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: do anything well, he's not doing anything that benefits bill.

955
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen any of these networks talk about

956
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: the dramatic turnaround in the economy, or foreign policy success

957
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: or the difference. You know, Jerusalem is now the capital

958
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: of Israel. Others had promised, never had the courage to

959
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: do it. We can talk about North Korea, new trade deals, Mexico, Canada,

960
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Wishman's you mean it was a story a few months

961
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: ago where he allocated billions of dollars to clean up

962
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. It's not even our fault. There's a big, big,

963
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: plastic slick and the United States has taken a lead

964
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: to clean the ocean up. Did that get anything? Nope,

965
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: they didn't know. It's got nothing. But the first time

966
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: in seventy five years, Bill O'Reilly, America is energy independent

967
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: and one of the world's largest exporters of energy. Seventy

968
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: five years that happened under him. Look, Americans know that

969
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: fixes in. That's why Donald Trump's approverating as it stands

970
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: today is about forty eight percent, the same as Barack

971
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: Obama's was at the same time in his term. So

972
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Americans understand. I'm worried about Trump himself. I'm worried about

973
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: the human being. I mean, how much can you take

974
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: because you know the toll it's taken on you. I

975
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: know the toll it's taken on me to be hated

976
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: and attacked every single day. Maybe maybe I've got a

977
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: missing switch, Bill, but I don't give a flying rip

978
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: about what these people think about you. I know, oh stop,

979
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: times you're sitting there going, what the hell am I

980
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: doing this for? Well, you know, I trained MMA five

981
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: days a week, so you know, you know it's part

982
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: of my nature. You know, I will say this and

983
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: I spend time this week with Melania, and look, i'

984
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: would be dishonest if I say at times it doesn't

985
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: drag on you a little. Look, I'm a Christian. I

986
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: try not to do that. I don't want to build

987
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: my life around hatred. But I feel sorry for Donald

988
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Trump the man, Okay, because I know that he's a

989
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: proud man and that he'd like to be treated fairly

990
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: as every human being in this country would, and that

991
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: he is just beaten to a pulp. But let me

992
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: say this every day, and it's just disgusting. I've never

993
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: met and I've interviewed Milania, and I've interviewed the president.

994
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: I've known the President like you've had over two decades,

995
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: and I will tell you that he has an ability

996
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: to absorb all of this and not let it get

997
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: to him. The medium may claim they're getting to him,

998
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: Um not from what I have seen, you know, because look,

999
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure it does some days, and he gets mad

1000
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: some days. Guy, you know, is frustrated that the things

1001
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: that he does well, And I do believe he'll make

1002
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: a deal with China and Europe that will help us,

1003
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 1: US meaning the entire Nited States. But it's ignored stay

1004
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: right there. Bill O'Reilly with us. By the way, it's

1005
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: a great Christmas gift. I read it cover to cover.

1006
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't put it down. It's called Killing the Ss.

1007
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: His Killing series, by the way, is the best selling

1008
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong, Bill's series ever in history and

1009
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: the latest book I learned a lot about and I

1010
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: talk a lot about evil and how it's hard for

1011
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: good people to recognize evil exists. But the search for

1012
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: some of these war criminals post World War Two, you're

1013
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot. It's it's based on history and

1014
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: a lot of research that I had not known about before.

1015
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: It's called Killing the Ss. Well Lincoln to Hannity dot com,

1016
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Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, quick break right back more with Bill

1017
01:01:52,760 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: O'Reilly on the other side. The final hour of Sean

1018
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: Hannity Show is up next. Hang on for Shawn's Conservative

1019
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: solutions continue. Bill O'Reilly is our guest. His book Killing

1020
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: the Ss part of the Killing series that he's so

1021
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: well known for. All right, so we have only a

1022
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Speaker 1: minute left. So what does it O'Riley? Christmas? Like tuial Christmas,

1023
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: we go to mass the urchins get far more presents,

1024
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: and I ever imagined I would ever get in my

1025
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: entire life. Yeah, we got a little stockings. We got

1026
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: the terror dog Holly. She gets gifts and then Dad

1027
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: pays the bills. You know, is there anything that you

1028
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: want in your life? Because my family hates me because

1029
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing they can buy me because I

1030
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: don't want anything. You know, I'm like you, I'm not

1031
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: a real materialistic kind of guy. You and I have

1032
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: been very fortunate in our lives to come from working

1033
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: class parents and now be able to access anything we

1034
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: really want. And so for me, I give a way

1035
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money around Christmas time to people who

1036
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: don't have a lot because I remember those days and

1037
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: that's what Christmas means to me. Just giving to it

1038
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: really is better. I mean it's cliched, but it really

1039
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: is true. I much prefer to give people things. I mean,

1040
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: it makes me happier, it does right somebody else happy

1041
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: than for me to get something. How many shirts do

1042
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I have to have? You know? I got three? I

1043
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: mean I just rotate them every other day. All right, Bill,

1044
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: O'Reilly killing the ssh. Merry Christmas too, You have a

1045
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: great new year. Thanks for coming appreciated. Merry Christmas to everybody.

1046
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: Listening right now, and Hannity's a good guy. I want everybody, no,

1047
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: don't say something like that. That's not, that's not. You're

1048
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: ruining my reputation, you're ruining the show. You're killing me.

1049
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be neck killing Hannity. He's gonna be

1050
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the next version of the Killing series. If it is

1051
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: proven that the President directed or coordinated with Cohen to

1052
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: commit these felonies, are those impeachable offenses? Well, they would

1053
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: be impeachable offenses. Whether they are important enough to justify

1054
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: an impeachment is a different question, but certainly they'd be

1055
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 1: impeachable offenses. This president, in my estimation, has done everything

1056
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: possible to certainly be eligible for impeachment, and so I

1057
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: really do think that it should be started. I think

1058
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Speaker 1: what this totality of today's filings show that the House

1059
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: is going to have little choice the way this is going,

1060
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: other than the start impeachment proceedings. This is a man

1061
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: who came in and said, I'm bigger than the House.

1062
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Speaker 1: I've been in checks and balances, I'm begin in the

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Speaker 1: judicial community, I'm bigger than the free press. And he's

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Speaker 1: going to pay for that the rest of his life

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Speaker 1: when immigrants procure their citizenship by fraud, we strip them

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Speaker 1: of their citizenship. When a president procures his presidency by fraud,

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Speaker 1: should we consider doing the same. That can be a

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Speaker 1: criminal case if they can prove willfulness there. I also

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Speaker 1: think it potentially grounds for impeachment. I think the American

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Speaker 1: people would support impeachment. Donald Trump will be must be impeached.

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Speaker 1: He's got to know his future looks like it's behind bars.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a criminal enterprise. It certainly looks like

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Speaker 1: they are the kind of offenses that would call for

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Speaker 1: impeachment hearings. You have this memorable phrase of individual number one.

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Speaker 1: You know it's going to go down. I think in

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Speaker 1: the history books, along with some of those memorable Watergate phrases.

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Speaker 1: He may be the first president in quite some time

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Speaker 1: to face the real prospect of jail time. Are you

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Speaker 1: in a position to consider discussing impeachment in Congress? And

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Speaker 1: I think we have to be. When the evidence becomes

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Speaker 1: so clear that you very likely have a criminal sitting

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Speaker 1: in the Oval office, what is the Congress left to

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Speaker 1: do at that point? I think we're past the point

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: where everyone should be afraid to let the word slip

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Speaker 1: across their mouth, because if this scenario doesn't call for

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Speaker 1: the consideration of impeachment, if not flat out impeachment of removal,

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what the founding fathers had in mind.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with Congressman Adam Schiff, who was going

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Speaker 1: to be the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, that

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Speaker 1: President Trump could be indicted and possibly faced jail time

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Speaker 1: after he leaves off. Yes, these are felonies that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about as it relates to impeachment, Anderson, the Constitution

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: could not be any clearer. Impeachment is the appropriate remedy

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: for bribery, for treason, for high crimes and misdemeanors. It

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Speaker 1: speaks for itself. If the President orchestrated and ordered Michael

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Speaker 1: Cohen to break the law, to act in a criminal

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Speaker 1: manner and did so knowingly, as Jerry Nadler, the incoming

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Speaker 1: chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said, that would be

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Speaker 1: an impeachable offense potentially again, if knowledge was there, all right,

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Speaker 1: that is your corrupt news media impeachment. You've kind of

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Speaker 1: asked for what what are they going to impeach him on?

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Speaker 1: Where's the Russia collusion that they all talked about I

1103
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: understand that it doesn't matter. It's just the more shrill,

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: the more angry, the more bizarre this whole thing gets.

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Speaker 1: None of this is based on law, None of this

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: is based on facts, and it's time for a little

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: bit of you know, simple analysis and truth here and

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Speaker 1: not the least of which is none of what they're

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Speaker 1: saying points to any crime in any way, shape, manner,

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Speaker 1: or form, as many lawyers have been saying. Anyway, Joe

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Speaker 1: Concha of the Hill is with us to just take

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Speaker 1: an analysis of all this. Joe, how are you welcome

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Speaker 1: back dues, round up, information, overload outstanding? You know, almost

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01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: after listening to that montage, do you get the feeling

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Speaker 1: that perhaps many in our political media are rooting for

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: impeachment rooting they've been. It's the same people that have

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: been doing this for two years, but now they feel

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: for some reason, I think we got him on a

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Speaker 1: campaign finance violation if he knew. Now there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of problems. One is, Michael Cohen has given variations on

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Speaker 1: that story, so now the question is but then it

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: comes down to an issue that deals with the law,

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: and the law has to be was there in intent

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Speaker 1: to reach that threshold is an enormous burden to begin with.

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Speaker 1: And number two, I don't think they can reach it right.

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Speaker 1: And even if it is reached in on some level,

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: I still would argue that again, this was not the

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Speaker 1: campaign finance investigation. It was the Russian investigation. And all

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Speaker 1: we heard for two years was that the president colluded

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Speaker 1: or at least his campaign officials colluded with the Russian

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: government in order to affect the twenty sixteen election. Now

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Speaker 1: that that's been at least for now taken out of

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Speaker 1: the equation, because it would have been leaked right at

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Speaker 1: some point everybody leaks in this in this town, we

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Speaker 1: would have heard about some sort of connection. Since that

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01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: goalpost has been moved, it suddenly seems like the reason

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Speaker 1: why I asked the question, do you think they're rooting

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Speaker 1: for impeachment? Is because, Boy, half of its hatred animus

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Speaker 1: towards the president. Half is because it's great for business,

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: for clicks, for ratings if you have an impeachment going on.

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01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: You remember nineteen ninety eight, boy, that every everybody's ratings

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: went through the roof. So I think it's a combination

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Speaker 1: of those things. But in the end, do these reach

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Speaker 1: the high I heard during your clips high crimes and misdemeanors.

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Speaker 1: Do these so called high crimes and misdemeanors. I'm gonna

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: go over this slowly again because number one, they can

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Speaker 1: indict a sitting president. That's been the DJ policy since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. And number two, you know, the as

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: good as the Southern District of New York is and

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Speaker 1: some of the best lawyers and well known legal figures

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: in the country have come out of there. This is

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: not what they do. They rarely handle any campaign finance case.

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Speaker 1: And when you listen to the left wing media regurgitating

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Speaker 1: what people are implying here and things that they're they're

1155
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: literally cherry picking out of these reports about sentencing recommendations

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Speaker 1: that's never been put together. This is all speculation on

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Speaker 1: everybody's part. But if you look at the law and

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Speaker 1: campaign NaN's rules and the context, they do not mention

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Speaker 1: ever nondisclosure agreements or infinite other contracts, payments, arrangements, acts

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Speaker 1: of a private nature as campaign contributions. Now understand what

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01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying here. The actual rules in the law set

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Speaker 1: state the contact. They don't include issues involving NDA's other

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: contracts payments, arrangements, things that are of a private nature, etc.

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Speaker 1: As campaign contributions. In other words, in the normal, everyday,

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Speaker 1: not running for president life. In August of twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: would Donald Trump? Would it be so far? Is it

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: normal human behavior for people that these things happen in

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Speaker 1: day to day life, either for personal reasons, familiar reasons,

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Speaker 1: or business reasons. Are these decisions made every day? The

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Speaker 1: answer is yes, And those private payments can be made

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Speaker 1: in any manner, any amount, their private payments involving private matters. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, Levin wrote this up the other night, and

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Speaker 1: I thought he had it down perfectly, and there's no

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Speaker 1: reporting requirement. So the fact that they were included in

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Speaker 1: these charges in the Cone case, we know that there

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: are people that are just pulling out of this only

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Speaker 1: the Michael Cohnes comments that they agree with and ignoring

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: past comments which contradicted. And as for impeachment, well, nondisclosure agreements,

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: those are private matters occurring before the president was even

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Speaker 1: a candidate, completely unrelated to the office, that cannot legally

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01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: legitimately trigger the Constitution's impeachment clause. As a matter of fact,

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,879
Speaker 1: they could not be more irrelevant in terms of ever

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: having an opportunity of reaching that threshold. Now, the history

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Speaker 1: of high crimes misdemeanors, that language makes a crystal clear

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: that the office and the president's duties are not affected

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Speaker 1: in any conceivable way by these earlier contracts. And it

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how loud or shrill they get. It's a

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Speaker 1: simple matter of law at this point. Anyway, Joe conchos

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Speaker 1: back Etherre, I kind of look at it more from

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Speaker 1: the public perception, right, In other words, if I'm sitting

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: at home and I'm watching all this unfold, and I

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Speaker 1: watched Democrats pursue impeachment, and I see the media, as

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned before, this is something that they want, half

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Speaker 1: because of animus towards the president, half because it's great

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Speaker 1: for business. And I'm sitting at home, and I'm thinking, boy,

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Speaker 1: is this really a reason even if I believe all

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Speaker 1: this to remove a president from office? And I get

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Speaker 1: impeachment doesn't remove you. You still need two thirds of

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Speaker 1: the Senate to vote on that. But is this reasons

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Speaker 1: for impeaching? And then I go back to nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: and I was kind of young at the time, but

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: I followed this stuff pretty closely and with Monica Lewinsky

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton. When he perjured himself under oath, Republicans

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01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: overplayed their hands by pursuing impeachment, and they did impeach him. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't removed. And I look at this one poll number, Sean,

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01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: and it sticks with me every time I talk about this.

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 1: Post impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval rating was seventy three percent

1208
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: because people said, no, this is not why we sent

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01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: you to Washington, but to pursue this sort of thing.

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: We want you to help solve problems and advance our

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01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 1: lives and do things that we can feel and impact

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: us and make this country better. And I'm telling you,

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Democrats taking back the house here forty seats in the

1214
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Speaker 1: House and Nancy Pelosi becomes House speaker, And if this

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: is going to be the focus, it will boomerang on them.

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you, because I've seen this movie before, Sean.

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: I've seen the same movie, and I've been a partner.

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Speaker 1: I had a great conversation with Lindsey Graham about this,

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: and we were both saying, it's like they never learned

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: a thing from that error. And here's the more interesting thing,

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Speaker 1: and I'm making the case that what we're beginning to

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: see is a shrillness of the radical left, and all

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: of their real, real, deep seated everything that they tried

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: to hide from the American people during the election is

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: now coming out. The radicalism, and this is going to

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01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: This is not going to wear well with the American people,

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: the fact that they hid who they are, what their

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: real agenda is, and their myopic focus on destroying a

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: president and not solving problems. They are going to so

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01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: overreach and it's going to happen quickly. The president, with

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: all of this noise that we have heard now for

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: a number of weeks here about this particular issue. His

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: approval ratings at fifty percent. His approval rating isn't the

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: exact same position that a Barack Obama's was at that

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: time and his presidency, and he's had many successes, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think the guys had a day's rest or

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: a day's peace without this kind of building anticipation to

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01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: destroy him. They cannot accept the results of this twenty

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: sixteen election. By the time February gets here, the American

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: people are going to see it will be fully exposed

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: to them and on display on almost an hourly basis,

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: how insane the leaders in the House of Representatives are

1243
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: and it's not going to wear well with the American people.

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: It's going to it's going to happen quickly. They have

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: no idea what's about to happen. So what does that

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: tell you about our media now? And I said this.

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01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: I remember I had a conversation with Brett Bear the

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01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: night after the twenty sixteen elections, and he said, what

1249
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: do we miss? What do you think went wrong here?

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I think what we learned was

1251
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: that the impact of the media, of pundits, of people

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Speaker 1: living in ivory towers, of the studios of New York

1253
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: and Washington, opining about what they think the country is

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: thinking and feeling and what's important to them, they didn't

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: get it. They didn't go to the middle of the

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Speaker 1: country to actually talk to people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: And then I remember the Hill. We did this this

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Speaker 1: whole compilation of major indorsements by newspapers of each candidate,

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Speaker 1: and we found that fifty seven indorsements went to Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton and just two to Donald Trump. You know what

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: that got her? That got her a concession speech. In

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: other words, people said, we don't care what you think

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: and tell us how to vote. We're going to go

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: our own way. We're going to do our own homework

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: and to sign on which candidate we're going to go with.

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Speaker 1: So all this negative coverage and every morning you see

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01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: on like the morning Joe's you see on CNN at

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: night and they're hammering him, they're hammering him. You go

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01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: to media and you see, yeah, this person slammed Trump

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: and this person ripped Trump. It's having no impact because

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Speaker 1: people have turned it off because they're either numb to

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Speaker 1: it or they don't believe the messenger. Sean gotta take

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Speaker 1: a quick break more with Joe Concho of The Hill.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your calls coming up as we continue

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Speaker 1: throughout this Friday edition eight hundred and nine for one Sean,

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 1: Right as we continued, Joe Concho, media reporter for The Hill,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at even just the day's news

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Speaker 1: and I got, you know, an MSNBC guest Trump, his

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: goose is cooked. He should cop a plea and resign

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: and enjoy behark. I love this one. Maybe aren Hatch

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: needs to go to jail for supporting Trump. Samantha be

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01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: lining Fox viewers to Nazis. Most white people are racist,

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: she hints. And I just I watch it, I pay

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: attention to it, and I've got a laugh. Is they

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01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: don't know they're in the middle of a feeding frenzy overreach,

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: and they've missed the whole. They've missed exactly what they've

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: fallen into, the trap that Donald Trump basically couldn't have

1289
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: set a bigger, better trap for them. You gotta laugh,

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: I gotta yawn, right, I see Samantha d saying, Oh,

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: all of Fox's viewers are Nazis and the president is

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: a Nazi. You know what, boy, that words really lost

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01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: its impact now, hasn't it. And by the way, you

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01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,520
Speaker 1: never compare anything to Nazism or to Hitler or the Holocaust.

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: It could go back. I would bet that ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of millennials don't understand what the Holocaust was, which was

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01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't that you were Jewish and your marched into

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: a concentration camp and immediately killed. Oh no, they actually

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: worked you almost to death. And when you were no

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: longer productive in terms of building something or just in

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: terms of raw labor. Then you were killed after you

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: were separated from your family. So please, you've got to

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01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: stop with these comparisons because it's insulting to every person

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: that knows somebody that went through that or has family

1305
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: members that they lost there. And that's the whole thing,

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 1: the overreach. I mean, we might as well call that

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: the theme of twenty nineteen. I'm interested to hear why

1308
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: you think it's going to be entertaining. I guess because

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: of the whole Melton. It's going to be entertained because

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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: then that Mike cannot control themselves. They cannot control themselves.

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01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: It is they will expose themselves to be people that

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: are off the rails with no intention of serving the

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01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: American people. And that is bad politics in the end,

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01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: and it's not going to serve them well. And the

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: President's popularity is gonna rise, just like it's with Bill Clinton,

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: and every day you'll see it, and they'll get more

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01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: shrill and more angry, and we'll see more of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, I gotta run, Joe, Concha, Merry Christmas, sir,

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01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: God bless you. You're a great American, all right. Eight

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: hundred ninety four one sewn toll free telephone number. All right,

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,879
Speaker 1: a little Charlie Daniels, Big and Rich Zach Brown, Friday

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: concert series coming up and your calls, Well, don't all

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01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: look sad at once? You know it was Christmas bonus time.

1324
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm not know what we should talk about. We should

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: talk we talk about we should talk about something. What

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,839
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about now? He should talk

1327
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: about the fact you have been, you know, working under

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01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: duress for the last month, so you know, people should

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01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: know how hard you're worked and all the stuff you've done,

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01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: and you know how much you've accomplished. Even nice, I'm

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: not being nice. This is factual. You'll know what I'm being.

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: It will sound weird. What is the duress I've been under?

1333
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: Because you've been sick and coughing and hacking all over

1334
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: all of us, but you still come in because you're

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: a workhorse. And I think that it has been the worst, longest,

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: most frustrating experience with whatever it is that's going on

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01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: inside of my body with a cold and sinuses, and yeah,

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01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: it's called you won't take a day off, you don't

1339
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: listen to anybody, you don't take what you're supposed to take,

1340
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: and well, I try to take the medicine, but it

1341
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: annoys me and then I can't sleep. Well, there you go.

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: You know it's I got to pick my poison. I'm

1343
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: just sure the medicine works. But you know when I

1344
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: stayed up the entire night before the Milani interview, that

1345
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: there was like forty eight hours and no sleep and

1346
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: you still did a great job. Yeah, I could have

1347
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: done better if I was more aware. Well, if only

1348
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: you had slept and taken a day off like some

1349
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: people told. Well, I used to go skiing until my

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: son broke his leg. But I like to tell you

1351
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: what I did. I bought myself a Christmas gift. Do

1352
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: you want to know what it is? What is it

1353
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: all right? Because you know? What do I tell you

1354
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: when you want to buy me something? What do I

1355
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: always say? Don't buy me anything? Don't buy me anything.

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I don't want anything? Is it you know that I

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: don't want anything? I have? You know my little group

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: of shirts that Fox pays for. I don't even buy

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01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: my own shirts. I don't buy my own ties. I

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: don't buy my own jackets. I buy jeans and I

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: have how many How long have I been wearing those?

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 1: One pair? Of shoes over two years. They're cold. Todds

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: wear the same pair of shoes every day, right, these

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01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: are the ones with the hole in it. No, I

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01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: replaced those two years ago with these. But they they

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01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: stand up and they're comfortable. So the reality is I

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01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: don't wear jewelry. I don't wear watches. There's my own

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01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: personal preference because I never wanted to get caught in

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: the trappings of stuff. Now I like to give those

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01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: things to people, and I like people's reaction when you

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: give them something that they would never get for themselves.

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: But like for you guys, I would love to buy

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01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: you all Christmas presents, But you know what the best

1374
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: Christmas present I can give you his money and that

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: you all deserve it. Don't you think that's a better

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01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: present than me going to the store and picking out

1377
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: a scarf or a hat for you? I mean, diamonds

1378
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: are a girl's best friend. But do what you feel? Oh,

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: you want me to buy you diamonds? Is that what

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: you want instead of your Christmas? I would never say

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01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: that you don't seem like the diamond person. You really don't,

1382
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 1: because you always bragged that you get your clothes like

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: for twelve Bucks on I do, where do you buy them?

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01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: I buy my clothes on Amazon and Walmart, and I

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: buy my earrings at Target. There you go, I mean,

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01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: so just all right, we'll take your bonus money and

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01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: go buy some Oh I'm gonna go crazy. Oh wow, Target,

1388
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: better watch out. I know what it's good to listen.

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: I went shopping with you once a Target. You don't remember.

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: What do you mean? I don't remember? Of course I remember.

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01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: It was because ridiculous. We were on the road. Where

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: were we? I forgot? We were in West Palm, all right,

1393
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: West Palm and you wanted to get something for Liam. Correct,

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01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: all right, So you're so we go into the store.

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01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Who else was with us? It was and James, my

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: buddy Gome my brother in lawn, sweet baby James. And

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: we go in there and you're like looking at every item.

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01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: Choo Choo train. He likes choo choo trains, he does

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01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: loves Okay, So finally, and you're looking at the price

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: and you look at it. I finally, I can't take

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: it anymore. I can't handle it. So I okay, First

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: of all, this is such crap because you didn't even

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: let me begin. We literally went down the eye and

1404
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: the three of you said, stepisoide, we know what little

1405
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: boys like, and it was like free for all. You

1406
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: all were reliving your year old. I filled up the

1407
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: basket and I said let's go. And yeah, you know

1408
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: who had to lug that all the way home and

1409
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 1: on the train alone without you three strong men? Me. Oh,

1410
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you had to bring the toys

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01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: that we bought for your son home. Was he happy?

1412
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: I had to buy it a seat on Amtrak? Well,

1413
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: you and I got a family video of the three

1414
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: of you opening it up and fun happy. He's very fun.

1415
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: All right. So anyway, that's my extent shopping and you're

1416
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: like turning it over, Well should I get this chow

1417
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: chow or that choo cho? This choo choose three ninety

1418
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: nine this one? So what it really comes down to

1419
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: is you're impatient and you do one away from me.

1420
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: So you bought every No, I'm like, just buy the

1421
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: stupid trains and let's get out of here. Um. Anyway,

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a good shopper. That's why I just I

1423
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: don't want to go shopping. Say what did you buy

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01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: for yourself? Though? Nothing? Why would I buy? Said that

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01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: you bought something for yourself a Christmas. That's how we

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01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: got on this side. Oh, I forgot so I had

1427
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: over the years. I always loved reading tail Or Caldwell novels,

1428
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: loved them. So I got a hold of one recently

1429
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: that I had read, Bright Flows the River, and I

1430
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: liked it. I finally found time to do it. It means,

1431
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, putting aside, like an hour at night, that

1432
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: you actually got to focus on something else. And I

1433
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: bought I went on Amazon and got a hardcover edition

1434
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: of her entire collection. And there's lots of them. So

1435
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: that's what I bought myself a Christmas. Now, see, if you,

1436
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: if you were a true Christian, you would have said

1437
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: to me, listen, I know everybody will always ask you

1438
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: what to get me. This is what you can tell

1439
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: people to get me. In a each person could have

1440
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: bought one book in that collection. Then I wouldn't have

1441
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: had the whole collection delivered at once like it is.

1442
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: When again we're back to your impatience. Okay, it's not

1443
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: about being listen. I don't give you. I don't give

1444
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: you a bonus, so then you can take some of

1445
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: the bonus money and wonder what to get the boss.

1446
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't want any I already got you something. Oh what,

1447
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: it's much better than a book, Not that there's anything

1448
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: wrong with books. Was it? Was? It expensive? It was

1449
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: ridiculous that you're wasting your money. I'm going to return it. Okay,

1450
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: Well you can't, Yes, I can't. I can't, Ethan, do

1451
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: you know what it is? I have no idea what

1452
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: you No one knows what I got you. Well, do

1453
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: you get me a bunch of stuff? All right? If

1454
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: I have to carry this junk home tonight, I'm not.

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01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: First of all, just apologize. Do not call it gifts.

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: You have not even open debt jumps. Okay. My family

1457
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: hates on Christmas Day because they hand me like shirts

1458
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: and I like, oh, that's really nice. And then I

1459
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: hand it to Tim when everyone's not looking. Where I

1460
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: handed the sweet Baby James. When nobody's looking, I'm like,

1461
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: I know everybody. It's frustrating because I don't really want anything.

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01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: I never wanted to get caught up in the in

1463
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: the trap of stuff in life? Does that make sense?

1464
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: And I have you know I drive the same car

1465
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 1: I've been driving for fifteen years. Your clothes speak loudly

1466
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: off not wanting to get caught up in those sorts

1467
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, but everybody's complained about my clothing, so

1468
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Fox has been buying me new shirts every day. Let's

1469
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: do a poll of our callers and they ask them

1470
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: what they think about your non materialistic ways. All right,

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: let's do it, Chad. Anyway, is what's more important in life?

1472
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Is it giving or receiving? I prefer to give gifts

1473
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: them receive them, giving absolutely immediately, and you get more

1474
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: joy out of the giving. Right when you see a

1475
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: little boys eyes light up on a Christmas gift, it

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01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: means the world, especially in your parents too. It's it's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's the reason for the season exactly. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: for example, Um, I got Linda a gift one year

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01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: she never would have bought for herself, right, Linda, That

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: is very true. And it's something you use pretty regularly

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01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: every day every day. All right. It's a bicycle. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: All right. Mike in Minnesota, what do you think, Mike, Well,

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 1: I called in to talk about this border wall funding

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01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: that Pelosian Truman. Mike, Mike, Mike, that's not what we're

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01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: talking about right now. We have a simple question. I

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01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: want to talk about whether or not you think it's

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01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: giving her receiving the call. The call screener asked me

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01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: to get right to my place. I know, but we

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01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: just switched it up a little bit. You asked me

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk with And I've heard you guys

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01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: over the years, you know, but rate your callers if

1492
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: they don't out their topics. So I didn't want I

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01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to be in there. This is taking a

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01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: very non holiday turn. I gotta say, oh my god,

1495
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: we want we want to put you in a better,

1496
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,799
Speaker 1: happier place here. We're going to send you something for Christmas.

1497
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: Because what are you guys doing to the callers? Why

1498
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: would you berate the callers that there are customers? You

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01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: gotta be Mike that I know of. All right, Hey,

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Speaker 1: all right, Mike, talk about it. I'm talking about I

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01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: am man. Hey, that's not what you called in the time.

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01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: I've also heard Mark Levin say that too. So I

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to be in that club. That's funny you

1504
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: get the Caller of the Day award. You'd stumped the host.

1505
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean that's hard to do. Um, Okay, well I'm

1506
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna try again here. Okay, go ahead, dump you on

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: this one. Well, anyways, UM, one of the options that uh,

1508
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: that President Trump might have to choose would be to

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01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: use the military and build that wall declare a national

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01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: security issue. So I was sitting there and I'm thinking, well,

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01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you take an account all of the

1512
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 1: business activity Donald Trump has done through his life forty

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: plus years, and all of the tax money he's been

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01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: responsible for contributing to government, well that number adds up

1515
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: way more than five billion dollars. And he's in a

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01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,879
Speaker 1: unique position to point that out to Schumer and Pelosi,

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01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: but I know he wouldn't, So I'm kind of hoping

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: you do well with the PA. The Pentagon said yesterday

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: that they would support the president for national security reasons

1520
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: and appropriate the funds to build a wall. I think

1521
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: it's going to end up going that way, that's my guess.

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01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: And because there is Look, we've got drugs, human trafficking, terrorists,

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01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: some you know, and some very bad people crossing that border.

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01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: We've got to protect the American people. Well, that is

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: what the Department of Defense is about, defending the American people.

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01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be any legitimate court challenge that

1527
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 1: they have the right to appropriate that money anyway they want.

1528
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: We got a significant increase in our defense budget because

1529
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: the President fought hard for it, and it's important that

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Speaker 1: we have the biggest, baddest, toughest military in a world

1531
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: full of evil. So I think that's probably the way

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: it's going to end up going eventually. I don't know when, though, Yeah,

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01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I think so too. But my point is is that

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Speaker 1: the money, the tax money that would be used to

1535
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: build the wall to five billion dollars, well, President Trump

1536
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: himself is responsible for paying that into government in the

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01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: first place, so technically it's his money. Well it's all

1538
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: of our money. I mean, it's at the end of

1539
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: the day, it's got to get done. And in the

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01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: president's right by saying we've got to take a stand

1541
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: here and this is worth the fight, and Republicans need

1542
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: to understand this is why they were elected and if

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: they don't fight for any if you're not going to

1544
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: fight over fear of a shutdown with Obama's president and

1545
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: then Trump as president, then that means you're unwilling to

1546
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: take the strong sta and that's needed to be a leader,

1547
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and you probably don't belong there. You know, we do

1548
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: have people that would lead in not bat an eyelash

1549
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: over such a thing. All right, that's gonna wrap things

1550
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Speaker 1: up with today. I'm done. I'm out unless something major, major,

1551
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: major happens. I want to wish everybody a merry Christmas,

1552
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: a happy, happy New Year. Buckle up, get ready. It's

1553
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a rocky, rocky, fun road exposing the insanity

1554
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: that I guarantee you is coming. I promise we'll make

1555
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Speaker 1: it fun. Have a great, happy New Year, have a

1556
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: wonderful Christmas. God bless you all in your families, and

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Speaker 1: I'll see you on January second.