1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Dhorny. Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be back with you on Let's 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Be Clear. And today I have a very special guest, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: so I'm going to introduce you too. But first I 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: just want to let you know that what we want 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: to do like today, and what I would like to 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: do is always share stories about Shannon. We'll pick and choose. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: There's some things that I'm sure she would prefer to 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: keep private, but we're gonna be on here to share 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: stories about her so that you even see a more 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: integral part of who she was. And I hope you 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: all enjoy it. And today I'm going to this is Chris. 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: You've met him before on the podcastcast with Shannon, and 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have him here because he's part 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: of our family. And that's another thing. We were very fortunate, 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Shannon and myself that we came out here and we 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: don't have any of our family out here. So as 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: she grew up out here and then I was here, 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I would bring my friends to her, she would bring 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: her friends to me and to her dad, and we 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: created a family here and now we have this tight 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: family group here that is support. It was support for her, 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: support for me when her dad was alive, it was 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: support for him. And so this is Chris Cortazzo. You 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: all know Chris from seeing him before on the podcast, 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: and if you knew one little bit about Shannon at all, 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: you know how important Chris is to Shannon. 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: It's just but I love the way we're still talking present. 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't help. He's with me all the time. 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: It's so weird because my housekeeper today, she goes this 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: swetter is this yours? It was Shannon's. She left it 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: on the plane and it's just yummy cashmir sweater. And 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, it was so And I was bragging about 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Shannon because I was just in Europe and her fashion sense. 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: She had the best style, Like I was telling to 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Richard and James, she had the best fashion style. 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. And if I wasn't here, if I was like 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: in my place, my other place, I'm like, I have 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: two because she kept me over here a lot in Malibu. 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: But she would text me and she would take pictures 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: and she said, I'm going to Nobu denight or wherever 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: she was going. What do you think about this outfit 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: and everything that she put together just worked. Or if 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I was here, it would be like a fashion show 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: before she would go to dinner because she wanted to 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: look nice and she just wanted that opinion. And then 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: it was really funny because then she would make me 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: do the same thing. If I was going somewhere, She's like, 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: if you hurry up, I'll do your makeup and then 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: show me what you're going to wear. 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: Is just and I had to confront That was one 52 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: of my toughest confrontations. Or just to go to Paris, 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: because Paris was us. We always went to Paris, and 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: I revisited a hotel Costs for dinner by myself. I 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: did a toast to her, and then we went to 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: our favorite hotel, Hotel I could say it now, Hotel Lancaster, 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: and we loved Hotel Lancaster. And I just confronted it, 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: and I could feel her presence. And one morning I 59 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: walked I got up so early because I was thinking 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: of her, and I walked in the Left Bank and 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: we were I was walking through the streets at like 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: seven o'clock in the morning, and I turned the corner 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: and I just get chill saying it, and the wind 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: just went and she was like, baby, I am here 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: with you, and it was so brilliant. 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: And then there was the whale in Canada. 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: I haven't shared this with anyone yet. It was yeah, 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: I said to Sham And after she just left her 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: body the night before, I said, Shannon, and it was 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: such a rough day for us. All I said, Shannon, 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: come to me as a whale. If you come to 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: me as a whale, I know you're there and you'll 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: be with Mama Rosa and myself. And I was on 74 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: this lower ledge at our place on Quadra Island and 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he hit us and there's such 76 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: a drop off near the shelf of our cabin. It 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: was fifteen feet off the shore and this monstrous it 78 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: wasn't a gray whale, it was a humpback whale came 79 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: and yellow. My son, Yeah, bolted because the sound is 80 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: so intense. And then came up and then she, Shannon 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: came up with this big flute. Shannon's the whale now, 82 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: and then waved goodbye and then took off and I 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: was like, baby, you're there, You're there. 84 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: I feel her all around me and when I'm in 85 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the garden, which she absolutely loved, it's it's incredible. So 86 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: it we just feel her all the time and the 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: love that she gave to us. I mean, we all 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: had our moments, you know, and she could be a 89 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: tough cookie, but but you know she would always like 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: if any little thing and then I know with me, 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: it was like we might like disagree on something. I 92 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: have moments and I'm like, Okay, well I'm just gonna 93 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go back over to my place or 94 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go downstairs right now, and and uh, after 95 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: a while, I would either get a little text or 96 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: she would like she would just come to me and 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: she would just hug me. And when Shannon hugged you, 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: you knew you had been you were being loved, you 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: were being and she she was wonderful. And so it's 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: like I still feel that sometimes. It's like I'll think 101 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: about certain moments that we went through and then in 102 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: my head I will see that that confrontation and then 103 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: the loving result of that confrontation, and it's a beautiful 104 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: thing that you have those memories and those feelings that 105 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: just are there every every day. And I still like, well, 106 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: something exciting will happen or even even maybe it's something 107 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: like the dishwasher the other day broke and I went 108 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: to tell her, Shannon, the dishwasher is broken, and she 109 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: wasn't there. So it's it's just one of those things 110 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: that I think most people experience when you truly lose 111 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: a loved one. It was that way with my husband. 112 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: So she's all around us, and I know that all 113 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: you guys, you all have lots of hugs. I met 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of you at conventions. I've been to many 115 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: conventions with her, and I know that you're all phenomenal fans. 116 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I know that you loved her. I know that you 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: know she would get up and hug you, and all 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: those hugs were real, and she appreciated each and every 119 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: one of you and everything that you you brought to her, 120 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: because you did. You brought to her, You brought the 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: appreciation of her lifetime work. And that the love that 122 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: she extended to her fans. 123 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: It's and she loved her fans. She did, like you said, 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: she loved and appreciated her fans. And there was always 125 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: like once a week we had date night and we 126 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: did either go to Nobu Lucky's or Jojio Obaldi's and 127 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: there was one really special night where we're sitting in 128 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Nobu and I could see this mother and daughter and 129 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: they looked over at us a few times. Everyone look 130 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: at Shannon to be real to always. But anyway, they 131 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: finally got the courage and the mother came up and said, 132 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: this must be a sign. I just told my daughter 133 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: that I had breast cancer and the fact that you're 134 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: here being so much to me Shannon, and Shannon was 135 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: so lovely and so gracious and hugged them into pictures. 136 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: But you know where every word she is like a 137 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: lifetime achievement of her work and what she accomplished. We 138 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: would take boat trips every summer to Greece, and there 139 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: was a I was. 140 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: Too afraid to go because I was I'm afraid of that. 141 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: That's a different story. Yeah, that will lead into. 142 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: But talking about to Greece at that time, I've got time. 143 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: But then you got over your fear. And it was 144 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: the smallest little island and there's an eighty something year 145 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: old man and he goes Shannon Doherty. Shannon Doherty. But 146 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: her fame was everywhere and she I was just so 147 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: proud of her as a friend. She was extraordinary and yeah, 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: she just she had so much love to give. It 149 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: was such an inspiration to watch. And I never really 150 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: watched a lot of her work before. 151 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Now it's everywhere now now TV. It's like I turn 152 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: on the TV and there she is, and. 153 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: She showed me one episode and maybe I'll put it 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: on Instagram. I had to find it, and she had 155 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: a New York accent. She was like at a diner. Yeah, 156 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: and she's we're taking off on our plane and we 157 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: she played it for me and I go, Chamon, you're 158 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: so good. You're such a great actress. And she looked 159 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: at me and you could tell how happy that she was. 160 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: You appreciate it. 161 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: I just appreciated her talent. I was like, babe, you're amazing. 162 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: And then we try to watch Heathers and we fell asleep. 163 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: That was that was our one figure of watching. But 164 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: now you know, it's everywhere on the Instagram and I'm 165 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: watching all these clips of her and I'm just like, 166 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: I just wish we could talk a little bit more 167 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: about that. But I do say, I go, babe, you're 168 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: so great. Yes. 169 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: The other night I turned on and it was a 170 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: burning passion in Margaret Mitchell's story. Margaret Mitchell were going 171 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: with the Wind, and Shannon played Margaret Mitchell and it 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: was shot in Bright School Beach, I think, South Carolina. 173 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: She loved it. 174 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: She had her dog at the time. Her dog was Elfy. 175 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: She had Elfie with her, and they gave her a 176 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: beautiful home to say it, and gave her a motor 177 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: boat and an inner tube, and Elfie would get on 178 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: the very top of the boat and then Shannon would 179 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: be in the inner tube out in the water, and 180 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: then somebody would be driving the boat. Usually it was 181 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: who she had been with for seven years. But to 182 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: hear her do this, I mean, I grew up in 183 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the South. I mean she was born in Tennessee and 184 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: we left there when she was going in the first grade. 185 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: But like, it was amazing to me because I'm like, 186 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Shannon was never one that was like, will you run 187 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: lines with me? Will you do this? She read a 188 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: script and she knew it, and she pinned down her 189 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: character and everything you saw was Shannon. She developed it 190 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: all herself. And so I'm watching this, of course I 191 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: watched it, you know originally, But to sit there in 192 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: my room alone, which is my little dog, and this 193 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: comes on and I'm watching it and just even gave me, 194 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: as her mom, even a greater appreciation of what she 195 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: was able to do. 196 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: What a talent, Yeah, what a talent. 197 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: Should we go back to our boat trip, our Malibu Crosia. 198 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: Group, Yes, so Mama Rosa, myself and Shannon and a 199 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: couple of other friends. 200 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Uh it eventually meet. 201 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it was on her bucket list that we would 202 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: go to Croatia and rent this big, beautiful yacht. So 203 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: we did four stories, right, yeah, four stories and it 204 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: was just perfection. 205 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: And I was scared of this. 206 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: I know you weren't. 207 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't like being on the water, and it freaked 208 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: me out. 209 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: And Mama Rosa brought probably eighty five coordinated, perfect outfits. 210 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: That was Shannon's doing, she was I think it was 211 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: all trying to get me. 212 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Dinner and maybe a cocktail attire. And we were on 213 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: this boat. And when you're on the boat, you literally 214 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: where your pajamas were, swimming in pajamas, the most casual 215 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: you probably wore. I don't see six outfits the whole time. 216 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: I broke my ribs and it was hard to get 217 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: in and out of so much stuff I wore as 218 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: little and as loose as I could. 219 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: But that was now you are your yaughterer officially. 220 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, when you're on that is it the A, G 221 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: and C. When you're on A G and C, it's 222 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: very calm. It's not like you're out in the Pacific. 223 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: I know a woman who is in Malibu who is 224 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: a major sailing, major, sportswoman, all of this stuff, not 225 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: afraid of anything, and she said the last place she 226 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: wants to be is out on the Pacific Ocean. 227 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: Well, one time Shannon and I went from Bowdrum to 228 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Greece through the islands, and there was one night it 229 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: was so rough we were literally all flying in the 230 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: air and then landing. I have never experienced seas like that, 231 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: and Shannon slept the whole way through and on the boat. 232 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: If you know anything about Shannon, she has to have 233 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: her room subarctic. Yeah, and it was. They would I 234 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: think it was sixty two degrees and so I'd call 235 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: my nickname for her was little Bear because she would 236 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: go in and hibernate in her room and she would 237 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: she's so relaxed on the CD and she loved it. 238 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, have we had such fun journeys. And 239 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: Mama Rosa we have to post some of her pictures 240 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: of or maybe some videos as well of us. 241 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: To it. Yeah, there's some really go to and see 242 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: what we can share. 243 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: The PG version. 244 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: But we were pretty good. 245 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: We were great. But gosh, what a fun trip. When 246 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: you looked at Shannon's eyes and her facial features, she 247 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. 248 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: And every time we go out to dinner, she would 249 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: give me that luck because I'd be looking at her 250 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: in an interesting way and I go, Shannon, you are 251 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: the most beautiful woman in the world. And you could 252 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: just see how it just touched her heart. But I said, 253 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: it was such sincerity. Her face, it just everything about 254 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: her was gorgeous, like beyond beyond gorgeous. That was just 255 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: those eyes were like cats, those gorgeous green and the 256 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,479 Speaker 2: shape of them. But you know, you being Native American, 257 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: was that your side or to my side? You had 258 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: the highest cheek bones. 259 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: One of my I don't know which grade it was, 260 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: but one of my great grandmothers had been taken from 261 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Mississippi be to Oklahoma, walking from Mississippi to Oklahoma in 262 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears, so the whole Indian heritage to 263 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Shannon was very, very important, and she swore when she 264 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: bought this property, it just she felt something with this 265 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: property and she just was here and she says, I 266 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: just feel it. She says, I know that this is 267 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: where I'm supposed to be. And she just felt that 268 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: whole Indian. 269 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: It's the Tchumash Indians that were in residence here, but. 270 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Then what we were chucked out. But I mean, yeah, 271 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: she just felt like the whole Indian. 272 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And that's why I think she loved our 273 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: ranch property so much, because they were in that valley 274 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: and that's where we had so many We shared, Chen 275 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: and I shared on our other podcast how special it 276 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: was to be there and that was a healing time 277 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: for you and Shannon, my husbands away. Yeah, you guys 278 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: went up there. I remember she told us to on 279 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: the podcast that she the wind came and she said, 280 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: and Tom said, I'll be okay. Yeah, amazing. 281 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: And dragonflies, I mean when she one of the ceremonies 282 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: that she was in, we won't mention which one, but 283 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: she was walking and a dragonfly lit on the back 284 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: of her dress and I was walking next to her, 285 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: and from that moment on, I mean, and we were 286 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: said one day after her dad had passed away. We're 287 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: sitting on the steps at the ranch and this dragonfly 288 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: just came and sat on her shoulder, and it's just 289 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: like every time, you know, it's just I don't know. 290 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: She just felt like that was her a symbol of 291 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: her dad, you know, not this, but it was just 292 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: a symbol of her dad. It just gave her like 293 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: a quiet peace. 294 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 2: So great. And the ranch unfortunately burned down, but we're 295 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: building it, aren't we. Rosa yes, and it's going to 296 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: be a new version, a new improved version, which is 297 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: going to be so fun. One thing I think we 298 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: should talk about is all of Shannon's dreams. 299 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: You have to be careful now, streams you share. Oh 300 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm so okay, dreams, dreams like careful. 301 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: Talking about No. We we bought this beautiful farm called 302 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: the one hundred Acre Woods from the Winnie Depoo. It's 303 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: actually one hundred and fifty acres and there was sixty 304 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: flat acres and there's two separate pastures and then it backs. 305 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: There's a stream that goes through it and you drive 306 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: over a bridge and a waterfall and then the main 307 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: house is there. And we had all these homes that 308 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: we're going to be building and Mama Rosa and Shannon 309 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: we're going to be building something on the back. 310 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Forty and she picked out and everybody's like, she's. 311 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: The best location. Of course it's Shannon. So she picked 312 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: out the best location. And she had designed a structure 313 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: for you and for Shannon and the combined is it 314 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: living room, kitchen. 315 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: It was almost like, okay, she said, First off, she said, 316 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: it's got to be dune put up by United Steel 317 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: because you do have tornadoes there and we have a studio. 318 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Studio here was put up by United Steel. And she said, 319 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: then we can wrap it in whatever we want, but 320 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: we know it's strong. And so she said, we're going 321 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: to have like a main house and then on each 322 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: end we will have apartments, her apartment, my apartment, and 323 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: when we want to have people over and everything, or 324 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: we want to get where we can cook and do 325 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: and everything in the main center of the of the structure. 326 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: And then when we're just like because she has somebody 327 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: personal coming over and I just want to spend time together, 328 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: it's like they're in her spot, I'm in my spot. 329 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: And then we were but the whole thing was then 330 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 1: to build a barn, and she wanted to like bring 331 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: some the rescue horses up, and she wanted to be 332 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: sure that this is children and yellow Anna Moray learned 333 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: how to ride. She wanted very much for them. 334 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: To insist, yes, insisting on that. We're still going to 335 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: build that structure for you and for Shannon, and that's 336 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: going to go up. And during that process where this 337 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: is all being built, all of us we're going to 338 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: live long enough room you'll be living. I'm not letting 339 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: you go nowhere. But we were going to go to 340 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: Italy for two years, and we were debating between Rome 341 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: and then are outside of Florence. We're going to get 342 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: a big family villa with all these cottages. And one 343 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: thing I loved about Shannon is that she would do 344 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: all the research so I could just go up, we 345 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: can make the decision. She would pick out the five 346 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: best things and then we'd show up and make our move. 347 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: But we were going to do that for a couple 348 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: of years. Have the children learn Italian, and well, we 349 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: just all wanted to be together. And we're still going 350 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: to be together, Mama Rosa. We have a lot of 351 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: living to do. But yeah, we had a lot of 352 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: dreams right, and her bucket list. 353 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: The last thing we were doing well. She and I 354 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: had a trip planned together to Scotland because on my 355 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: dad's side, my grandfather is Scottish and we'd already been 356 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: to Ireland because on his side, my grandmother's from Ireland. 357 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: And so Shannon said, you know, when we went to Ireland, 358 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: we didn't have time to go to Scotland, so we 359 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: always planned to go back. And this was like the 360 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: next trip was like, she says, you and I are 361 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: going to Scotland and we're going to Sardinia. Our Malibu 362 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: group is going to Sardinia. There's seven of us, including 363 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Shannon and myself. There were seven of us all together. 364 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: And that was what she wanted to go to Sardinia 365 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: and have. 366 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: The mama's teacher's cooking. It's so fun. Yeah, and Shannon 367 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: was an amazing shot. Oh what about every Sunday night, 368 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to bring up so sweet. Yeah, 369 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: every Sunday night we had La Familia night. And Shannon 370 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: would spend days making the tomato sauce for my mother 371 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: and a yellow and amida, and she would make the 372 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: dough days before and we'd have the most delicious feast 373 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: and they would and Yellow and Shannon and AMREI would dance. 374 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: We had to. There's some fun videos. 375 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: Of all that, one where they're just like, yeah, they're 376 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: just like dancing, they're running, they're running around. It's like 377 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: she was like a kid herself, and she loved that 378 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: kind of thing. She loves. She loved it, she loved it. 379 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: There would be it's like there would be times she 380 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: loved like music and I have always loved music, and 381 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: we would just be everything would be quiet, come we 382 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: would just be we usually just we were sitting doing whatever, 383 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: and suddenly the music would come on and she would 384 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: get up and the next thing I knew, she would 385 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: grab me and we would be we would be dancing 386 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: and she says, come on, Mom, you can do this. 387 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: You can do this, and I'm like okay. And then 388 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: sometimes we would go outside on the patio and we 389 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: would be the music blasting and just dancing and having 390 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: the best time. And she loved to do that. And 391 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: then our other thing to do and it was just 392 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: the two of us together. I would be like we 393 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: would fix dinner. Sometimes we fix dinner together. Sometimes she'd 394 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm fixing dinner tonight. And then other 395 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: times we'd just order in, but should we get dinner? 396 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: Whatever it's done, dinner's all ready to go, and so 397 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: she said, okay, grab your plate, and she'd head into 398 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: the the library with the TV and she'd said, come on, 399 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: come on, family food is starting. We loved family food. 400 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: We played family Feud. There's two of us would sit 401 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: on the sofa and play family Food and we would 402 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: laugh and it's like the contestants were great, the host 403 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: was great, and we just wed. It was just one 404 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: of the most memoral times I have, just sitting on 405 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the sofa with Shannon playing family Feud. 406 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: So fine, and her mind was so sharp. 407 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she was so smart. It was scary. 408 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: And from from she came out of the wound smart. 409 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: What was she like as a baby. Did she have 410 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: a formed, very strong personality? 411 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: She was. She was very she was excellent. But both 412 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: my kids, I have to say, you know, with Sean too, 413 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: my son, was that they were both very very good babies, 414 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: very easy. But Shannon would be She's always been more 415 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: of a late night person, where my son has been 416 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: an early night person. Sean would go to bed at 417 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: eight o'clock and then be up at five o'clock in 418 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: the morning all the way through high school. That was 419 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: him Shannon. As a baby, I would put her in 420 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: a room, she would be in her crib. I would 421 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: go in. I could go in at two o'clock in 422 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: the morning and she'd just be sitting in her room, 423 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: just like in her bed, doing whatever, just like singing, 424 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: humming whatever. She was always just very content and like 425 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: she could entertain herself. And I always wondered what is 426 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: going on in her head? And it being a baby. 427 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Artie scripts early and she was walking at eight and 428 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: a half months, so it was like she was independent. 429 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: Sean was walking in eight months. I mean they were 430 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: both very independent, but yet very very affectionate, loving, and 431 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: they loved each other and they had each other's backs. 432 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: And I think when Channel was about twelve, I took 433 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: Seawann aside and I'm like, I know, you love your 434 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: sister so much, and I know you know he always 435 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, God sent me a sister, and 436 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: that always excited him. And I said, you can always 437 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: watch out for her, but you can't, like you got 438 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: to back up just a little bit, back off, just 439 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and that's how they were. They were 440 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: very very close and they protected each other dearly. 441 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, what, you guys are such a close family? 442 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Yes, we were, Yeah, and we had to be when 443 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: you get a member of your family, which my husband 444 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: became like it was more like when we moved out 445 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: here and we didn't really have family here or anything, 446 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and he was having major health issues and had him 447 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: for many years, and so we all just you just 448 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: family closes in and you protect one another and that's 449 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: what you do, and you help each other and you 450 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: get through the hard times and you enjoy the good times. 451 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's just what we always did. And she would 452 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: have us come to set, and sometimes if they hadn't 453 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: seen us on set for a while, we'd get a 454 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: phone call from somebody on the crew or something saying, hey, 455 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: where are you where? What are you and Dad doing? 456 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: We haven't seen you in a while. Why aren't you here? 457 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: Are you coming tomorrow? When are you coming? Come tomorrow? 458 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, and we would go. But even 459 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: when she was with her friends, they would go bowling 460 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: at this deli in Studio City, and they would be 461 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: they would have like midnight bowling and Tom and I 462 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: would already be in bed and we'd get this phone call, Hey, 463 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: what are you and dad doing. I'm like, we're in bed, 464 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: we're sleeping. Come on, get up and come. We're bowling. 465 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: We're waiting for you. Guys. We would get up and 466 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: get dressed and go. Because when your children want to 467 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: keep you in their lives like that, you do it. 468 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: And all her friends have always known. They know now, 469 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, even at the ages they are now. If 470 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: you need something, if you need a ride, you call, 471 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: We'll get you. 472 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: So my parents said the same thing. 473 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important. That's what you do for one another 474 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: if you love each other. That's part of that love. 475 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: As I said before too, is that I think Shannon 476 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: and I's bond and respect for each other was how 477 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: much we loved our family and how we always stuck 478 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: by our family, and then, as we were saying earlier, 479 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: we became each other's family, and it was just it's 480 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: been a really beautiful, fun journey. 481 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and. 482 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: So many memories to go. 483 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna, like I share things with you guys. 484 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed so far what we've shared. And 485 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: I also like, I know that Shannon would a couple 486 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: of times. I don't know how many times she did. 487 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: She took questions from everybody and then she would answer 488 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: the questions if if any of you decide you want 489 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: to do that, and and uh it works out. I'm like, 490 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: I more than happy to take questions. Some questions I 491 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: might choose not to answer. Some I will answer, but 492 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm open to that because I know that she enjoyed. 493 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: She enjoyed that, and it gets you to know her 494 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: better and her to know you better the questions that 495 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: you're throwing up. 496 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: And I think she liked a lot of the questions 497 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 2: and answers at her conventions. And the last one she 498 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: went out, she said it was one of the most 499 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: interesting ones. 500 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: Mm. 501 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: She really enjoyed it. 502 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did. It was interesting too because she got 503 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: to know Rose better. And I hope to have Rose 504 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: on with me at some point because I've never met Rose. 505 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: And when Shannon came back and told me, like the 506 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: first time that she and Rose kind of actually met 507 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: and got together, and she's she said, I have actually 508 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: found Rose very interesting. She says, I'd like for you 509 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: to meet her mom and see what you think. And 510 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: so I hope to do that. And I felt, what 511 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: better place to do it than here on the podcast 512 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: where Shannon would would be and just see what comes 513 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: out of it. I I you know, I think she 514 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: probably still has a lot to say and I have 515 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot to say, and it would just be interesting 516 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: in the conversation and things between the two of us. 517 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of clarity that came out, 518 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: which was good and I'm glad they had that experience together. Yeah, 519 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: because she said the same thing to me. Yeah. 520 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: I watched Brian has a Pot. Brian's another one that 521 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: I hope someday that like, I can have Brian on 522 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: because I've known Brian for a long time and I 523 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: love Brian and his wife Sewna, and then they have 524 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: the baby now and I just Brian has his podcast. 525 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: And I watched Brian's podcast the other night and it 526 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: was very interesting. He was It's Brian, I think it 527 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: was Brian, Shawna, his wife, and Randy Randy spelling, and 528 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: it was really cute. But for me, I thought it 529 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: was cute because Brandy talked about when he was twelve 530 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: years old and met Shannon and he had this mad 531 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: crush on Shannon. Now min Shannon's shared with me when 532 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: she first met Randy, and they're at the Spelling mansion, 533 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: which is like sixty something thousand square feet, you know 534 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: this place, And I never got to go there. My 535 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: husband went there, and he would go there and they 536 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: would take him in the kitchen and fix him lunch 537 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. But she said that, she said we used 538 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: to play hide and seek in the mansion. She said 539 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: it was phenomenal, so we could we could get in 540 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: all these clausets and these cupboards and these cabinets that 541 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: you wouldn't even know were cabinets, and she says, and 542 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Randy would hide and Tory would hide, and I go 543 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: look for and we'd switch up. And she loved that plane. 544 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: She talked about playing hide and seek with Randy and 545 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: Tory in the mansion. 546 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: Got the memories. Yeah, such great movies. 547 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: We're very fortunate that we have all this. And it's 548 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: like it brings happiness, but it also brings like it's 549 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: like I can at any moment like just like burst 550 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: out because it's like it's such a loss. It's such 551 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: a loss. And you know, I've said it before. Parents 552 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: should never go you know, lasts longer than a child. 553 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: A child should never go before parent, and it's things 554 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: we have no control. Love, my faith just tells me 555 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: it's all in God's hands. And that's how she Annon felt, 556 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: and that's how she left felt. That's how she lived 557 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: her life. It's like, you know, and I was like, 558 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: aren't you afraid to do this? She said, I say, 559 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: whatever is meant to happen is going to happen. I 560 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: just have to be smart and take the precautions that 561 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: I need to take, and then it's in God's hands. 562 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: And that's how she lived her life. And with cancer, 563 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, she fought this battle and she thought it 564 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: so hard, and and she bought it so much of 565 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: that was with her faith. She says, I just have 566 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: to faith that I'm doing what I need to do, 567 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: and that's she says, that's all I can do. She says, 568 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing everything I can do, and I just have 569 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: to you know, whatever happens is in God's hands. 570 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: She was such a warrior through it all though, Rosa, 571 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: because she thought so hard. In fact, I never thought 572 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: she was going to go. I just I still can't 573 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 2: believe it. But she never complained. She with the chemo 574 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: and be so sick and she never she didn't want 575 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 2: any sympathy from anyone. 576 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: She just. 577 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: I've never I've never seen anything like it in my 578 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: entire life. She she was, she was a different breed. 579 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: And she moved me. 580 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: Closer to her. She moved me into a room next 581 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: to her, closer to her, and then eventually she's like 582 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: one night she said, mam, will you I'm sleep with me, 583 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: And that's when Bowie got put off the bed and 584 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: we would we And that was that that was such 585 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: a gift for me that I had all in those 586 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: final weeks whatever. It's like I could lay there, I 587 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: could hear her breathing, and I could feel her. It's 588 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: like it was like it was a gift. It's like 589 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: a gift she gave to me. Mama, you come sleep 590 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: with me. It was the gift she gave to me. 591 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: And I just remember coming over and rubbing her and 592 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: massaging her. But I still couldn't accept it. Yeah, it 593 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: was the most bizarre thing, Mama, Rosa. I couldn't accept it. 594 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: And she didn't want you to see her being so. 595 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: Vulnerable and vulnerable, yeah, and sick. 596 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: And I came home one day and she said, Mom, 597 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: hurry up, I'm like what I just I'm like, I'm 598 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: going to go down and check on Indy my doll 599 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: really quick, and then I'll come back up. No, no, like, 600 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: what's the wonder is Chris is coming? Chris is coming? 601 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: She says he's on. He stops on the door. She's 602 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: so she just didn't want and I so Chris. I 603 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: talked to Chris on the phone and I'm like, Okay, Yeah, 604 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna happen. Around six o'clock. You're gonna knock 605 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: on the door and I'm going to be oh, I 606 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: need to take Bowie out, and then Bowie will be 607 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: barking because somebody's at the door, and then you come. 608 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Then you're just here there. Yep. That's the way it was. 609 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: But it was yeah, I was just life is full 610 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: of journeys. I just not to be somber, but I 611 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: just wanted us to live our lives together. We had 612 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: so much to live for, so many plans, so many 613 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: fun plans, and just gosh, but we're going to still 614 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: do it. We're still family and we're going to make 615 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 2: our problem. I do our best, one move at a. 616 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Time, and you, as an audience, are going to get 617 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: to meet the other people in her life, our family. 618 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting. When we first met Chris, we were looking 619 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: for properties. She was looking for properties in Malibou and 620 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: she said, you know, I want you and dad to 621 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: go with me. I'm like, okay, And then I said, 622 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: are we meeting? Where are we meeting the realtor? And 623 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: she says, oh, you know, we're not getting in a 624 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: car with somebody we don't know driving us around. She says, 625 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, but we're going to meet him wherever it was. 626 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: And she says, and then we'll just stay in my 627 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: car and then we'll follow him. That's what we did. 628 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: And then when we got all done with the day 629 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: and look, we the three of us got back into 630 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Shannon's car, and Mom and Shannon and I all looked 631 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: at each other at the same time. I'm like, oh 632 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is the one. This is the one. 633 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's good looking, he addresses well, he's like 634 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: so well mannered. He's he's working, he seems to be good. 635 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: At his work. 636 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: He's just when is the last time we met somebody 637 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: this age that's got everything together? And that was our 638 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: first introduction to Chris. 639 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting, and we were going to 640 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: get together in a different form as best friends, and 641 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: we wanted to get married on the Tennessee farm and 642 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: lived this extraordinary life. But while she was in body, 643 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: we definitely had an amazing journey. Yeah, amazing journey. And 644 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: just as a friend, there was no one like Shannon 645 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: mm hmm. You just felt so safe in her presence 646 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: and you know that she would just she always had 647 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: your back. I don't think she ever wanted me to 648 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: be in a relationship with anyone because she didn't want 649 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: to share meant to share me. No one would pass, 650 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: No one would pass the situation. No, nope. But I 651 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: think that went both ways. 652 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you were always sticking on her to. 653 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: No one was good enough for Shannon except me. 654 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: Well and definitely. 655 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: Yes, that's on next level. Yeah mm hmm. You know, 656 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 2: it's interesting when you have someone so beautiful and so 657 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: successful that someone could attack someone's confidence. 658 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: And mistreat them so much. 659 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: Like horribly. And that's why when I would appreciate Shannon 660 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: and her beauty and her talent and the talent that 661 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: I never watched on TV. 662 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: That she probably that's a good thing too, because it 663 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: kept your relationship on a whole different level. 664 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: Is such a yeah. Yeah, I mean she was Shannon 665 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 2: to me, but not Shannon Dorty, but it was yeah, 666 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: my god. In life, you just have to be careful 667 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: with people who can go after your confidence and to 668 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: try to make themselves better. So very interesting teaching for 669 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 2: all of us. 670 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Yep, and it's time for indies. Five o'clock Medison here. 671 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 2: Gosh. I just I just got back from Paris three 672 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: nights ago. I got in at one o'clock in the morning, 673 00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 2: and I took an yellow for his birthday to Disneyland day, 674 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 2: and I had one day to yesterday, and I'm looking 675 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: at myself with you can see how tired. But Mama Rosa, 676 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: you look so beautiful. 677 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Chris. 678 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 2: And and I'm so impressed with you and your spirit. 679 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: You could tell that you and Shannon are one because 680 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: the inner strength of both of you is honorable and 681 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: so commendable. And I'm just so impressed with you. I 682 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: really am. You're just You're extraordinary, and you just put 683 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: your foot in front of the other every day on 684 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: the greatest loss that one could endure, and you are 685 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: You're a champion for us all. 686 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, my kind. I just when I hit a 687 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: rough spot, and I do often, I just hear her 688 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: voice and her tell me, Okay, Mom, you need to 689 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: learn how to do this. You're going to have to 690 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: take care of this. You're going to be And I'm like, no, no, no, 691 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: It's like and I always said to her, this is 692 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: going to be a Debbie Reyntals Carrie Fisher situation, you know, 693 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: And she said, I'm like, yeah, I'm like when Carrie went, 694 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: Debbie went the next morning, and I'm like, that's what's 695 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: going to happen. She says, no, Mom, it's not. Because 696 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to will you to stay here and here 697 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: I am and you're doing I'm trying. So bear with me, everybody, 698 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: and I hope that I get to do more podcasts 699 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: and all of you are going to watch and listen 700 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: to our stories and Chris will be back of some 701 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: time if I have anything. 702 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: To do with it, and we can answer more questions, 703 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: and then I'll I will post more on Instagram so 704 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: we could all live our amazing journey that we shared 705 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: with the most incredible, talented, lovely human being that we 706 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: all love so dearly. 707 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: So maybe I'll open my Instagram up. Shannon was always like, no, Mom, 708 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: well that's what is it. 709 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 2: What are you going to do? It's gonna be Mama Rosa. 710 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is already a mamabod. But there 711 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: I discovered because I too. I went one time to 712 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: see if there was anything on my Instagram and there's this. 713 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: I see this very tanned, thick legs feet with this 714 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: bright peak nail polish and I'm like, and it says 715 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: Mama ros I'm like, that's not me. And then I 716 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: think there's a real Italian Mama Rosa somewhere out there. 717 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 2: Okay, well there's on Instagram. We have to create another name. 718 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to be the Mama Rosa. All right. Well, 719 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: it's really great getting to spend time with all of 720 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: you and stay with us, stay with us. 721 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: Love to you all, Thanks for loving Shannon. 722 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely love you. 723 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: Bye bye