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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We teased it last week

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Speaker 1: and we're excited to bring back Trevor May on the

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Speaker 1: Mess Up Podcast. Second time guest here. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: always have you back, Trevor.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I am doing well.

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Speaker 3: Not much tweeted this out last night or you saw it,

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Speaker 3: but came to the realization recently that I would have

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Speaker 3: just arrived at spring training, probably in the last day

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Speaker 3: or two, especially if I was in Arizona, because we

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Speaker 3: rode tripped down last year and so that's what we

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Speaker 3: would have done. So on Sunday, my wife Kate was like,

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Speaker 3: is today the day we would have like gotten there?

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Speaker 3: I was like, I think we've been the second day

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Speaker 3: of the trip, but yeah, Monday, yesterday would have been

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Speaker 3: the day we arrived. So it's all kind of real now,

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Speaker 3: which is it's weird, makes feelings, but I'll be honest,

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Speaker 3: it feels better. It feels better than it feels bad,

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Speaker 3: if that makes sense. It feels good more than it

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Speaker 3: feels good.

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Speaker 4: So otherwise day before you made a pie. So definitely

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Speaker 4: some beginnings there.

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Speaker 3: Laves crossed yeah, there's only one piece left, so and

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Speaker 3: my wife's notting and pie right now. So if that

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Speaker 3: puts into perspective how good it is, it was very

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Speaker 3: very good. Like I can't wait to keep exploring pie.

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Speaker 1: So you brought up getting ready for spring training and

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Speaker 1: you know this would be the time when you go down.

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Speaker 1: Are you starting to miss it yet or has that

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Speaker 1: not sunk in?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: It hasn't sunk in, And I don't. I don't anticipate.

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Speaker 3: I anticipate like you know, watching baseball, like being like, oh.

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Speaker 2: You got to go, Like why would you go there

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 3: Or or you know it's a young guy, like I

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Speaker 3: kind of told him that, you know, like I could

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Speaker 3: have a conversation with him after this, Like that's what

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Speaker 3: I think it will become coming from as opposed to

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Speaker 3: like really feeling the itch to like be the guy

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Speaker 3: or or going because that's that's I loved it. I

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Speaker 3: love playing, But I'm like I hadn't. I always had

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Speaker 3: mixed feelings about the start of the season, which is rare.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't really find anyone else honestly that I played

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Speaker 2: Usually I was like.

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Speaker 3: At home, like making things that I like to make,

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Speaker 3: especially like YouTube videos and stuff is like things that

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Speaker 3: and that was always kind of like sad. And then

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Speaker 3: there's I hate moving all of the stuff that goes

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Speaker 3: along with having to like plan and move and deal

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Speaker 3: with you know, new landlords, and like I go from

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Speaker 3: not having a landlord having a landlord again, like a

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Speaker 3: like two days in and like the day start get going.

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Speaker 3: Then it was I've switched, you know, I switched my

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Speaker 3: this year I was like, I'm excited for baseball like full,

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Speaker 3: there's no mixed feelings.

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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 3: Yet I will get a mix when I miss the game,

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Speaker 3: I think, but but at least right now, like my

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Speaker 2: Now I get it.

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Speaker 3: I get like the people in media who are like,

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Speaker 3: I totally understand where they came from. So I'm really

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Speaker 4: Do you feel anything missing, like physically, like I should

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Speaker 4: be throwing, like I should be ramping up, like I

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Speaker 2: so I'm not super worried about it, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: I we have a big turf complex close to our house,

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Speaker 2: When I was like, yeah, I missed kind of running around.

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Speaker 1: Well, you were talking about getting excited, you understand like

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Speaker 1: in on baseball, what plans do you have because you're

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Speaker 1: you're kind of in the media now a little bit,

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Speaker 1: making some YouTube videos again, getting on Twitch, and being

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Speaker 3: Oh, so many things. Another thing came across my desk today.

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Speaker 4: But we shouting out all the time.

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Speaker 2: Out for that.

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Speaker 3: Ill doing serious XM every Sunday. With Danny Wexman from

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Speaker 3: And I'll be making guest appearances on Foul Territory, I'll

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Busy guy at Ryson Barrels is the baseball podcast.

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Speaker 3: But you know, so I'd always sit there and watch them,

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Speaker 3: So we got to talk about sweepers and like what

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Speaker 3: has a true out pitch, and he can throw over

436
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 3: one hundred mile, not one hundred, over one hundred. He

437
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 3: could be the top three hardest guys throwing guys in

438
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,119
Speaker 3: the league. So you know, I don't know if you

439
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,200
Speaker 3: knew this, but Edwin Diaz also doesn't in a vacuum

440
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 3: have an incredible slider or a fastball either.

441
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 2: It's just how they work together. And so Fouji's the

442
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 2: same way.

443
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,640
Speaker 3: If he can figure that out and throw the fastball

444
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 3: and pick a spot the splitter off of it.

445
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: And just he's.

446
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: Japanese so that he also throws a curveball and a

447
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 3: slider and a sweeper, and you know he throws a

448
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 3: sinker and a change up, and you know he throws

449
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: all the pitches he's he but he was just like

450
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: kind of overloaded, I think and getting the simple that's

451
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 3: HEF's good at that. So like I think that's a

452
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 3: big thing for him, but it's gonna be it's just

453
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 3: gonna be that. And and then executing because he's gonna

454
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: have days where he's just all over the place. It's

455
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 3: gonna happen at first it is, and there's gonna be

456
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 3: a confidence that has to build, and so try to

457
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 3: be as patient with him as possible. There's probably going

458
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 3: to be a blow up somewhere. It's probably gonna happen.

459
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 3: He's not infallible, but in terms of stuff, if he

460
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: dials it in and locks it in, I just he's

461
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 3: one of those guys where no team wants and no

462
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 3: team's like, yeah, I bring Fuji in, Like they don't

463
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 3: want that.

464
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: Nobody wants that.

465
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 3: And the reason he had a seven last year is

466
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: because he like give up like forty five runs his

467
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 3: first thirty innings as a starter, and then he was

468
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 3: a reliever for last year. Like you're just not gonna

469
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 3: get the lowest you can get. Your eara at that

470
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: point is an eight. You could throw a scoreless for

471
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: the rest of the year and you're still in an eight.

472
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 3: So he kind of threw that out the window, and

473
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: he kind of threw really really I feel like what

474
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: three one or three two? After starting in his first

475
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 3: year the big leagues. I remember I had a conversation

476
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: once one day in the bullpen. I said, Hey, we're

477
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: talking about tunneling. I'm like, do you know what are

478
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 3: you familiar with tunneling? He's like, we have that in Japan,

479
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 3: That's what he said.

480
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I go, where are you trying to throw your fastball?

481
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: Like, if you had to, if I gave you, you know,

482
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars.

483
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 2: Said pick a fastball spot, where would you throw it?

484
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: And he just thought he goes, uh, down middle, And

485
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: I said, Fuji, that is the never throw it there.

486
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: Never aim for that spot ever, And that was just

487
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: like throw a strike Like That's kind of where his

488
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: head was at, Like I need to throw it over

489
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: the plate, and I'm like, down middle in the major

490
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: leagues is what every single person on the planet wants.

491
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 3: They all want that, especially when you throw that hard,

492
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 3: So I go, maybe if you aim up and then

493
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: throw your splitter and just throw splitter, try to throw

494
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: it up too, and it's gonna go down.

495
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: Just throw those two things.

496
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: We had Shay Lang Layers do this only and it

497
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 3: was and then it was just he was Fuji after that.

498
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: So I'm not taking credit.

499
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: You're taking a little credit.

500
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: We had that.

501
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: We had that conversation one day. I was just like,

502
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: think of it as a tunnel. You just pick one

503
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: spot and then throw your two pitches to that one

504
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: spot and then move from there and you'll get you'll

505
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: throw more strikes, you'll get ahead more, and you'll feel

506
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 3: better about it. Because I had done that too for

507
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: the because of the clock, to keep it simpler, and

508
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: so it worked for me. And he's like, oh, and

509
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: then you know, there were a couple of days where

510
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: he was like walk the three guys and didn't really

511
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: have it right. But the other day is striking everybody out.

512
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: So it's like better than what it was. So he's

513
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna build on that too. I think

514
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: that I told half that. I'm uh and he's, oh, yeah, okay,

515
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: Like because we've had that card he's liked, Oh we're

516
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: we're having that conversation.

517
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: We got this.

518
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome. They're gonna have a lot of fun.

519
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: So I have high hopes for him. And he's also

520
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: just just the best guy. So you always want the

521
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: best room. He's You're in good hands there. He's just

522
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: a he's a sweetheart. He's a good dude.

523
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Man.

524
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: He's and they all are you say, and you know,

525
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 3: are just awesome too. So I'm really happy for the Mets.

526
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 4: So the Alsto break when he has a three two

527
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: ERA and thirty five percent strike out rate, it's gonna

528
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: be ninety percent, half ten percent. Trevor May on the credit.

529
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: Se Yeah, yeah, just keep my name in there somewhere. Okay.

530
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 3: I just need that credit really because I can't play

531
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: anymore and I just need it please.

532
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: Funny, one thing we're gonna ask you was one Mets

533
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: pitcher who was like a sleeper or someone who had

534
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 4: higher expectations for it. But I think you just answered

535
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: that organically, which is cool. But do you have general

536
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: expectations for this mess team this year? I feel like

537
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: there's this division among fans right now where people think

538
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: that we're punting where people are not excited because the

539
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 4: roster doesn't look as pretty and spectacular as did the

540
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: last two years. But there's a lot of good depth there,

541
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: a lot of things being done. So as now member

542
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 4: of the media, as someone who's outside looking in for

543
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: the first time with the expectations for one of the

544
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: thirty teams.

545
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: I would say, you know, would they have a term

546
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: that we we've been talking about on the radio that

547
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: the Red Sox throughout it's the bridge year because the

548
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: Mets are definitely one of those teams too. There's no

549
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: full rebults, like the amount of money you have that

550
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: you don't have to full rebuild. But sometimes there's a

551
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: little bit of a you know, let's take our foot

552
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 3: off the gas pedal for a minute and having Stearns

553
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: come in. So that makes a lot of sense. It's

554
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: kind of like you're smart to do that because you

555
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 3: keep trying to like throw things against walls. It puts

556
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on you know, that philosophy, like

557
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: he wants to bring in his philosophy, say what you

558
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 3: want about it. Right in Milwaukee, they were consistently producing

559
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: so good like close to you at max capacity. He's

560
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: good at that he's good at getting the most out

561
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: of what they have. And if you look at just

562
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: talent on paper, like they shouldn't have been first and

563
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: second every single year like hell, you know. And so

564
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: it's a good division, like with the division with the

565
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: Cubs and the Cardinals in it all the time, like

566
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: to be there's that says something, so put money into it.

567
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: But he's not gonna be like, hey, give me five

568
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars now either right away.

569
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: That's just not how he operates.

570
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: So getting a year of him to operate there might

571
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: be a little patience there that but like a mania

572
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: pick up, like you know, batter like there's a lot

573
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: of really good pieces. They are all guys who've been

574
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 3: really good at one point or another. It's just maybe

575
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: some of them are reclamation projects. So the difference the

576
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: thing could be like how many of those things pan out?

577
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: That's it? Like does Auto do twenty twenty two? As

578
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: if he does?

579
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: Now you have an eighth inning guy, just Jake Deekman,

580
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: keep the walks down a little bit and not give

581
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 3: up any hints. Now we have prime Jake Deeman because

582
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: he throws hard. Still, he still throws ninety five ninety six, Like,

583
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: the stuff's there. These guys have the same stuff. It's

584
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: just how is it gonna play out? So if they

585
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: do those things though, now those from a team that's like, oh,

586
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: we're just kind of competing to oh we're like we're there,

587
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: We're right there because you still have the door, you

588
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: still have a demo, you still have McNeil, you still

589
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: have Alonso, like you have the core, and then you

590
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: have Alvarez who's like, you're you know, you're catcher now

591
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: and he if he gets better, he can hit. So

592
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: like that's five really good hitters, so you know that's

593
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 3: a that's enough to score runs. It's just how is

594
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 3: it going to pan out? And it's just about execution

595
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: at that point, So the talent's there. I liked a

596
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: lot of the pickups. I think it's tons of depth,

597
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: tons of guys that can do a good job. It's

598
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: just are the stars stars and uh and then honestly,

599
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: the starting pitching, it's just you know, what's Tyler are

600
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: going to do?

601
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: What's Peter's gonna do? Like what what what do their

602
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: years look like?

603
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: One of those guys go off, though, if we have

604
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: an old McGill or Peterson Padi from a couple of

605
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 3: years ago. Then Sang's gonna do sang of things. So

606
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: then and I come bounce it back like see see

607
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: how there's a lot of that. So it really depends.

608
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: But I think that the potential is is just as

609
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: good as anybody else in the division, even the Phillies. Uh,

610
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: even even the Phillies, and I mean the Brays are

611
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: the race. It's it's hard to root against, not root against.

612
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: I can root against them all day, but it's hard

613
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: to see me. They need a lot of stuff to

614
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: happen for them to get less talented. As of course

615
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 3: they have to lose a lot of guys for them

616
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: to be a less talented team. But they're beatable, Like

617
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: they're beatable, and uh, you know, anything can happen. So

618
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: I think the talent wise, if everyone's cooking though, they're

619
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: just as good as any of their teams. So uh,

620
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: it's just there's just more question marks and normal.

621
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: It does feel great to hear you say that, because

622
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean me and James, we've we've been saying it

623
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: all off season, same thing. It's like, keep the expectations

624
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: low for this team, but don't be surprised if they

625
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: play much better than you expect, just because, like I said,

626
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: the core that is on this Mets team is really

627
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: good and like you know, Pete lindor Nimo, those guys

628
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: are gonna be locked in for what they do every

629
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: single year. You mentioned Alvarez, you got to spend a

630
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: little time with him at the end of twenty twenty

631
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: when he got that call up. Everybody has just glowing

632
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: reviews on this kid and that you know he's a

633
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: special player. And even last year with like Scherzer of

634
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Verlander talking about pitching to him, they love throwing to him.

635
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: What did you notice with Alvarez in that in that

636
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: time at the end of twenty twenty two, that kind

637
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: of seems to be that separating factor between him and

638
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: a lot of other players.

639
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Crazy, to be honest.

640
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: If you had if you asked me in like twenty one,

641
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: like the end of twenty one, if Max Scherzer would

642
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: be like pumped to throw to Alvarez, he wouldn't be.

643
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: I don't think he would be sold because he was

644
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: very raw and he's a hitter, Like he was a

645
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: hitter first. I think that was something that's something you

646
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: assume about guys who can hit catchers is that when

647
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: they're that good at hitting, that that's probably what they

648
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: care about the most.

649
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: You know, the you know the Wilson contraras kind of

650
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

651
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: It's it's no, he likes he's a catcher, and he

652
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: takes it seriously, but he definitely likes hitting the most. Right,

653
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty clear he's been It's pretty obvious. So there

654
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: are guys like that who who don't put in quite

655
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: as much work catching and that's not the case with him.

656
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: Like he it's almost like he knows. He knows that's

657
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: what people think, and he doesn't want that. He wants

658
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: to prove that he's a really good catcher and then

659
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 3: he makes good decisions and then he can call a

660
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: good game and that he's paying attention and he understands.

661
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: And I got that vibe in twelve twenty two when

662
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: it came back off my injury and he caught me

663
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: in triple A.

664
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh.

665
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: Wow, shrink the pitcheon coach there. Time was I think

666
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: he might still be. I don't know, he might be,

667
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: but he just like, let Francisco do it. I sat

668
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: into I didn't need to be there. But I was like,

669
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: I want to I want to see how Francisco runs this,

670
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: and he was, you know, he struggled a little bit

671
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: with you know, the language at times and and things,

672
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 3: but like he was it really engaged in how are

673
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: we going to attack this team? And that was triple

674
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: A and triple A. It's really easy to be like whatever,

675
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: just put the figures down, throw him. You got like

676
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: thirty five year olds, like your whole staff thirty five.

677
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: They don't care, right, So it's really easy to be

678
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: that way. And he took it very seriously. So that

679
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: surprised me just a little bit. But seeing how hard

680
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: he was working at the catching part and then last

681
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: year just like Andy, even talent wise, I was just like,

682
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: what he's like becoming one of the better defensive catchers

683
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: in the major leagues in his first year.

684
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: That did not see that coming.

685
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I was like, if he's average at catching, win because

686
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: he can hit, but he's proving to be better than that.

687
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: That's that's that's exciting. Man who wouldn't want to have

688
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 3: like a JT. Real Mutoses type, who wouldn't want that?

689
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: That's I think that he's the most He's so valuable

690
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: people don't understand how valuable that is. Being able to

691
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: hit like that, catch like that, and and like honestly, oh,

692
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: Francisco can run a little bit too, like better than most.

693
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: He's athletic, and he can do things that most catchers can't.

694
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: So I'd be excited for him, but really get an

695
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: endorsement from Erlander and Surez er like what else you need?

696
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean, now, if I'm a free agent, like, I

697
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: feel like I'm covered going there.

698
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: So that's huge, especially he was twenty one years old

699
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: the whole season last year. Just turned twenty two this

700
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 4: past winter. Like we see most catchers ne eiven when

701
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: they come into their own when they reach the major leagues. Here,

702
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: it's twenty three to twenty four five. Adly came up

703
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: at what twenty four to twenty five. He's generational. Cal

704
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: Rowley just broke out of twenty six years old. The

705
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: fact that Francisco's putting these things together in his early

706
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: twenties you could barely legally drink. It's like, that's the

707
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: most shocking thing.

708
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: That's insane. Yeah, funny, funny. Albret's story too. It's just

709
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: from twenty two in spring training. I think twenty two

710
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: is Yeah, it's first year's a big league camp, and

711
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: you know he came in.

712
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: He's wearing his like his Jordan's and you know his

713
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: chain and.

714
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: You know your first like we got the rookie who's

715
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, blaying up coming into the thing, and so

716
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: you you, you know, there's a sometion you make like

717
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: are we gonna have to you know, are we gonna

718
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: have to like get on him or not.

719
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: We didn't.

720
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't a problem at all. But we're doing uh

721
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: he hap practice one day, or we're doing like defensive

722
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: drills and pitchers are supposed to we're supposed to throw

723
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: the ball home during the play and you know, we

724
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: just show the ball and be like, hey, I'm gonna throwing.

725
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh So I get up there.

726
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: We're doing our drill, and uh Francisco's like back there

727
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: bucks hitting. So I go, I go throw the ball

728
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: and I go and I'm throw and I go. As

729
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm throwing, he's not looking at me. He's like no knowing,

730
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: he's not looking. I just he's crouched though, and he

731
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: just talking to somebody and just chest and go to

732
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: back and go what and the buck buck looks at

733
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: me like what the and then just throws the ball

734
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: and hits the thing.

735
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I go cover.

736
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, what are you doing, dude? And

737
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: I look back at everybody else. I'm like, what's he

738
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: look like?

739
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Was that on me?

740
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: They're like, no, dude, he wasn't looking like I almost

741
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: kill our big prospect catcher because he's not because he doesn't.

742
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: He didn't think I was throwing even though I he

743
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: just for whatever reason, he just wasn't paying attention. And

744
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: then then later that day, I'm in getting in my

745
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: arm work. Now he comes in. He's just gets a

746
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: nice peck put on his chair and I'm like, are

747
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: you good? Please, it's your fault, but I still want

748
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: to hurt you, like, and he's like, oh, I'm sorry

749
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: looking I didn't know. I didn't know, and uh that

750
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: I was like, they like him more than Mendred percent

751
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: like I would too. I'm more excited for him than me,

752
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: so like I don't want to be the I heard him,

753
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: but that was that's really funny to like back on

754
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: and now that he's fine and he's driving that, Yeah,

755
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: one time I hit Francisco Overrez in the chest through

756
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: a strike though like that.

757
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: Run the money. Yeah, you don't miss the target. He

758
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: was talking a lot about catching Diaz obviously missing last year.

759
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of questions, I guess with

760
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: him coming back having injuries yourself. What's it like that

761
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: first spring training back after an injury where you're sitting

762
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: out an entire year, you haven't really pitched.

763
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: It's it's weird. You got to get back on the

764
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: swing of things.

765
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: But honestly, it isn't that much weirder than having the

766
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: off season off. You just like forget what it's like.

767
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: Going from like not competing or doing anything competative and

768
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: then just suddenly competing at the highest level in the

769
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: world is always jarring. But I know Sugar pretty well

770
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: at this point and not a lot phazes him. He's

771
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: just gonna go do what he does. He's gonna be rusty.

772
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: I think I talked about this on another pod, and

773
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: just like just expect him to be kind of a

774
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 3: little bit like he might have a spring training out

775
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: in here two where you're like, oh, he's all over

776
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: the place because he has those days, like he's always

777
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: had those days, and so that's gonna happen a little bit,

778
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: But if he gets his slider dialed in just in

779
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: the strike zone, he'll be fine. I just the thing

780
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: the pay attention to do is making sure he gets

781
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, you know, if he's getting like four or

782
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: five outings in the spring, like he probably needs a

783
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: little bit more than that, about he needs seven or

784
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: eight to be ready for the season, So pay attention

785
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: to that. How much he's throwing. But if it's no,

786
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: he's so athletic and he doesn't seem to I've seen

787
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: videos of him throwing. He doesn't look like anything's wrong.

788
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: So he's not even wearing a knee brace, like he's

789
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: just going. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's just

790
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: like normal, like like nothing happened normal, because he's that's

791
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 3: the type of athlete he is. So I hope, I

792
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: hope that's the way it is. But yeah, just a

793
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: little patients. It's it's rust is the thing, especially when

794
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: a year off. It's it's just not easy.

795
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: He was really vocal at the end of last season

796
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: that he wanted to come back, maybe like to prove

797
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: it to himself, prove it to the fans, prove it

798
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: to you organization. Maybe just because he just signed that

799
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: bit contract. Want to get out there is there is

800
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: there something to that when you have a big season

801
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: injury like that, even just throwing ten pitches on the

802
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: mounds before the offseason butterflies or whatever.

803
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there definitely is. Well, we had the same

804
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: thing with Noah. Uh.

805
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: He was adamant.

806
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: He's like his because he had setback after like he

807
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 3: was just so frustrated. I remember having conversations like, dude,

808
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: I just need to get an inning, like, give me

809
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: two innings, give me one outing, so that I can

810
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: at least make a case that I can play next year.

811
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: And he was also going free agency. That's a big

812
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: part of it too.

813
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, getting a couple just finishing the season showing

814
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: that you can pitch in big league games sets up

815
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: an offseason and then sets up you going into spring

816
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: training in a completely different way mindset wise. The question

817
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: marks like, for example, the teams like oh, can we

818
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: like we count on and being ready for opening Day?

819
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: Can that kind of goes away because he threw in

820
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: a game back then, so that means you're healthy for

821
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: the off season. But if you go into it and

822
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: you didn't throw in a game, they're still like, okay,

823
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: but how closer you really the throwing into games because

824
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: we don't know because you haven't done it.

825
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: So I get it.

826
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: And he's just competitor too as part of that too.

827
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: But I know he's thrown like what six hundred bullpens since,

828
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: so like, I think he's gonna be fine. It's just

829
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's a different speed. But yeah, spring trainings,

830
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: that's what it's for.

831
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I mean, like, of course, with Diaz,

832
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: the year that he had in twenty twenty two was

833
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: just phenomenal, super special what he was able to do,

834
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: striking out like fifty percent of the batters he faces,

835
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: which is just I mean that still doesn't really even

836
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: compute in my head, feels like a fake number, feels

837
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: like video game type stuff. One of the big things,

838
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: of course with him was also the trumpets. I want

839
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: to what's what's the teammates perspective, Like, does it hype

840
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: you guys up too? Because obviously it gets the fan

841
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: base going, but like, as someone in the bullpen, are

842
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: you like just amped up when you start hearing those trumpets?

843
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Going?

844
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, there's I think there's a little bit

845
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: of video of him when he comes out a couple

846
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: of times, uh in twenty twenty two, the big days

847
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: that you can see me and out of me and

848
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: out of you know, outside of the little room or

849
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: in because we want to watch it because like we're done,

850
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: Like we we got to him and we didn't have

851
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: to pitch if we're both still out there.

852
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: We were like, first of all, we're like, are our

853
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: our roles over?

854
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: So we don't have to worry about the the the

855
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: you know, phone ringing. At that point, actually, I was

856
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: like I still have to kind of just in case

857
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: if something bad happens, I'm probably the one so uh,

858
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: which never happened, which is awesome, but yeah, it's it's

859
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: that's my favorite thing about sports, about baseball. I think

860
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 3: that I think that the walkouts and the program there

861
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: and like the excitement for players, if you do that

862
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: really well, it makes a massive difference. A team that

863
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: does this it's a little bit biased, but a place

864
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: that does this extremely well and leans hard. At Seattle,

865
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: they lean in so hard on like that presentation and

866
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: they have the led lights city doesn't I wish they

867
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: did so come off if this year good well, the

868
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: trumpets with like a couple of flashes of lights like

869
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: literally trumpet's playing or like notes going or something would

870
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: be electric. They need that being able to shut down

871
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: the lights and bring them back up huge. So uh,

872
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: I but I love the WWE growing up WWF at

873
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: the time, uh, and their entrances were all I actually

874
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: really cared about. I knew it was fake, didn't really

875
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: care who won, but I did care when like you

876
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: weren't expecting someone to show up and they did Undertaker,

877
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: like yeah, the and and you know Caine when he

878
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: he came out, and like you know, Stone Cold Sea,

879
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: but like all of them, like DDP was my favor.

880
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: I had a bowling ball of like I loved it. So, uh,

881
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: we're entertainer, so you should take that seriously. There's a

882
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: lot of guys who like do the four different walkout songs,

883
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: and they're different all the time. And sometimes it's showing

884
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's showing guys off, showing out guys,

885
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: rappers you know or something.

886
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: I know Stro does that sometimes.

887
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: Uh. So I think that you should get yours, get

888
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: your thing, your notice for it, look at look at

889
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: like I know, Phillies. I don't like to bring up Phillies.

890
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: But the Bryson Stott thing when everyone's singing the song,

891
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: that's super cool though.

892
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: I but you guys probably hate a song. That's the

893
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: point you hate it.

894
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: You know about it, there's something you associate with Bryson

895
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: Stop like, like, that's cool.

896
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 2: Both sides. It's cool.

897
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

898
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: And then the fans are like, that's what it's about.

899
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: I think, And uh, you know you got the Getting

900
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: you guys involved, getting the people in the stands involved

901
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: in like that kind of way is the coolest thing ever.

902
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: And as a player, like, it's probably so cool for

903
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: him just to have like that thing.

904
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: I wish I always I've always tried to get that thing.

905
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: I got it actually a little bit in Oakland to

906
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: where at least my coaches and stuff were always singing

907
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: my Walkout, which which was cool. They didn't know what

908
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: the words were, which is they kept saying kiddies in

909
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: the jungle, which is not what it is. Uh, but uh,

910
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: I got it a little bit with fans. Fans I

911
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: had of asked me what the song was and all

912
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So that was cool. It's what I

913
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: always wanted. So I think more people should do it.

914
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: I think everyone should do it. I think every reliever

915
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: should have it. The fireman should have fireman stuff like

916
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 3: it should be it should be really leaned on because

917
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: I think that's the type of that type of thing

918
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: people want to see the park, whether they know it

919
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: or not.

920
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: Felix Patista had one of my favorite ones last few

921
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: years as well, just being in Baltimore and then doing

922
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: the led strobe and then playing the sounds from the

923
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: wire where it's like Omark come and you're like a

924
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: little whistle. You're like, this is local. This is scary

925
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: because he's a very scary relief picture. Everything fits really well.

926
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: So big coming out of the you know, it's so

927
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: funny too because he shows no emotion.

928
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: So it's like same with Durant too.

929
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: Heads it's cool too. I mean, I'm gonna be honest,

930
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: you have a better song in my opinion, but the fire.

931
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: So Glenn Perkins had the fire too when I came.

932
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: When I was.

933
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: There, became a different Yeah, but like light behind the

934
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: behind the home plate and then then go like the

935
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: ring of fire. It's cool too, and then it's perk

936
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: like doing it like jog out. He's one of the

937
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: best lash worst jobs to the mound in the history.

938
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: So but I was like, yes, I want this, and

939
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: then no other really had anything in Minnesota until like

940
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, which I had to I have the lobby.

941
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: I was like a lobbyist, like having eatings, trying to

942
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: convince people, not kidding, and so I love it.

943
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: My favorite thing.

944
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: I know Bednar in Pittsburgh has a really good one too.

945
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: It's a classic rock I can't remember right now, but

946
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: it's really hype and he's like he's a local guy.

947
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: So the fans have really taken him the last few years.

948
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: And I also know just from talking to him that

949
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: he's like took like a like a leadership role in

950
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: that bullpen. Like he got the whole team shirts, like

951
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 4: he was branding their bullpen. He was like, where the

952
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: guys is we're gonna be? Is there is there like

953
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: bullpen hierarchy like that for the closer to kind of

954
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 4: be the leader of the ring, leader, the emotional leader

955
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: in a bullpen.

956
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the real thing.

957
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: It's not always the closer, you know, a lot of

958
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: it is a tenure as well. You know, Bednar has

959
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: now been there probably the longest in that bullpen, and

960
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: he is the closer too, So just happens to be

961
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: that way. Like I was the most senior guy on

962
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: the team, on the whole team, and so that and

963
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: then I was a closer, and we've had a lot

964
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: of inexperience in our bullpens, so that just naturally fell

965
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: to me. And I tried to take instride, you know,

966
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: and and uh, like I know that a guy that

967
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the fan fest for the A's,

968
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: uh grand bellfo it is gonna be there.

969
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: He the same way. He like he like led like

970
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: that was there.

971
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: He was like this is our you know, this is

972
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: our mindset, this is how we approach games, all of us,

973
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: and I will you will follow my lead.

974
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: And he came out to Master of Puppets, which is

975
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: just sick. So he was.

976
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: He was insane on the mountains, scream at people like

977
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: he was.

978
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: He was absolutely electric.

979
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: That's when the like when the A's were good, and

980
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: like obviously the fan base was showing up for good

981
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: reason because they were performing well. What was it like

982
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: playing there last year though, because there was just so

983
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: much going on and then the Vegas rumors and the

984
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: fact that I mean everybody knows that like the ownership

985
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: really doesn't seem to care much about the product on

986
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: the field too often. Like what was it like to

987
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: be a part of that last season?

988
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: It it was a mixed bag.

989
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: There were a lot of like there's a lot of

990
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: freedom associated with that stuff, so we didn't have to

991
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: worry so much about like guys didn't have to feel

992
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: the pressure of like winning yet like there there is

993
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: a little bit there's when there's no expectations you have,

994
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: there's a that's a little bit of a wait off

995
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: your shoulder. I felt it too, so like you know,

996
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: when that when no one expects anything you can you can.

997
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: You know, anything you do that's good is noticed, which

998
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: is good. But one thing I did feel for was,

999
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, lack of leadership at the very top, which

1000
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: it is that is lack of leadership. The guy doesn't

1001
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: even act like he owns the team. We don't even know.

1002
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: It's like he doesn't acknowledge that people work below him,

1003
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: which is weird. And the people who do work below him,

1004
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: who are supposed to try to make the team better,

1005
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: like don't know what to do, Like there's only so

1006
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: much they can do. There's it's very limited, Like these

1007
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: are things that I don't need to go to him for,

1008
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: you know, green light or not, like we stay in

1009
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: that realm because getting like going to him was hard,

1010
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: Like no one talks to him. So, uh, it's just

1011
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: like it was a lot very it could be very distracting,

1012
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: and I feel for the I feel for the staff,

1013
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: I feel for David Forrest and and find seeing the

1014
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: the gems like they were they they were it felt

1015
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: like they had that I don't know for certain, but

1016
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: I felt like they had their hands tied quite a bit,

1017
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: and and that I just you know, it's hard to

1018
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: like criticize or even like analyze anyone's like performance for

1019
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: in their job if you don't know what extending circus

1020
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: stamps is they are operating under. So I noticed a

1021
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: bunch of that stuff. That's very me to notice. Players didn't.

1022
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a lot of like what are we

1023
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: what do we do here? Like a lot of a

1024
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: lot of this looking around and what do we what

1025
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: should we do in this situation?

1026
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: How should we handle this? With the media.

1027
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: Fortunately, we only had like four media members and there

1028
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: at any given time, and they were very kind about

1029
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: it too.

1030
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: They knew we couldn't do anything about it.

1031
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: So they didn't like, like me asking you and getting

1032
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 3: you riled up about this, isn't gonna do anything because

1033
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: you don't know, and I don't know. No one knows.

1034
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: That's kind of the point. So we didn't have to

1035
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: deal with it too much either. Kats didn't and he

1036
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: was he was just the face of the team. He

1037
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: was his bibblehead day. He's the one who gave the

1038
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: gave the the bottle of wine to Miggy ye, you know,

1039
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: like like, you know, it's not he's not you know,

1040
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: he knows, he's aware, he's aware, he's very aware.

1041
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: He knows, and he did his best and they all

1042
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: do their best.

1043
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: And so that was hard for me because they care

1044
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: about him and I liked them as people, and especially

1045
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: the players too. The young guys were like, where am

1046
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: I going to live next year?

1047
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Where am I? Like? I hate that.

1048
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what that's like for them. So it's

1049
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: still an ongoing situation, but it Yeah, it sucked. It sucked,

1050
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: and not talk about baseball, but also a lot of

1051
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: us to do cool things like show up on the

1052
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: boycott days and do you know, do interesting things and

1053
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: then converse with fans where they were like, hey, guys,

1054
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 3: we know it's not your fault. All of the fans,

1055
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: all of them, all the times, like players staff, we

1056
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: love you.

1057
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah of course, like.

1058
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that awareness and that like understanding just

1059
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: what meant the world to us, especially me so because

1060
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: you know, some players like I don't want to like

1061
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: engage because I think that I'm being lumped in with

1062
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: this decision, and they weren't. So we still felt love

1063
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: for the fans, and that was that was really nice.

1064
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: This might be a bit of a stupid question, but

1065
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: what was the vibe like no being and knowing you

1066
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 4: were the highest paid player in the locker room last

1067
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: year with the A's.

1068
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: It was weird first, but uh not, gon Lie, it

1069
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: was pretty great.

1070
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: Uh. I went from you know, I went from playing

1071
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: with all those guys being like the sixteenth highest paid

1072
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: guy played on the team, and now of that, I

1073
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: was like, I'd just gotten eight plus years and I

1074
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: was like eleventh in service time on the Mets. So

1075
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: I was just kind of a one of the grunts.

1076
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: And then you kind of become one of the guys

1077
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: who who is being leaned on to produce a little

1078
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: bit more I've always kind of wanted that. I felt

1079
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: like I could thrive in that situation, you know, struggled

1080
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: with it at the beginning, and then once once it

1081
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: got really accepted and leaned into, then I I rose

1082
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 3: to I rose to a level in my at least

1083
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: to my own standards that I always knew that was

1084
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: there that I could play at.

1085
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: And it was.

1086
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: I think that that kind of role on the team

1087
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: kind of tells you, like, you know, it's up to you, man,

1088
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: And when I get back to the corner like that,

1089
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: I had tend to be successful. So I'm I'm proud

1090
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: of that. But it was it was a lot of fun.

1091
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: I got to be the guy on the mic in

1092
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: the front of the bus. My seat was my seat

1093
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: like nice, like I could. I could, and I could

1094
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: be like, hey, no, don't don't do that, or give

1095
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: me that or whatever. And everyone had to do it.

1096
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: No one could tell me what to do. I didn't

1097
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: have to run like everyone ran.

1098
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: All the relievers ran, and I just walked in every

1099
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 3: day except for the days where they are strength coord

1100
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: you know. Cuffee, Josh Cuffey, remember the name. He knows

1101
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 3: what he did. He would sometimes make us run before

1102
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: we threw, so that I had to run. He'll he'll

1103
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: deny that to the to the last day like that

1104
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: it was for me because that's kind of probably wasn't,

1105
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: but it did have that effect. And there were days

1106
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: where I was like, I'm gonna throw this ladder into

1107
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: the stands and make you go get you make me

1108
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 3: do this again. But it was all in good fun.

1109
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, it was. It was awesome. It was awesome.

1110
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean it kind of all culminated to

1111
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: at the towards the end of the season. Last thing

1112
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: talking about the A's here was when they did the

1113
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: reverse boycott. They packed the stadium and you got to

1114
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: save you got the last outs in the game and you.

1115
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: You went nuts, like you went crazy.

1116
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: What was that moment, Like, was it just like nice

1117
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: to have the fans back in the stands and to

1118
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: have them be excited about something and what has been

1119
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of just a really disappointing team and organization in general.

1120
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.

1121
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: It was all that like, at the end of the day,

1122
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: we do want to play in front of that kind

1123
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: of electricity, no matter why, no matter what the reason is.

1124
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: And the players were like, we know what they're saying,

1125
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: but the message isn't for us. So the least we

1126
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 3: could do is it was like our way of participating

1127
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: without like having to take this. You know, it's not

1128
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: like we were like taking the stand up. We're with

1129
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: like even though I was, it's pretty clear at that point,

1130
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: but but like everyone was like, hey, let's give them, like,

1131
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 3: let's give it to them. Like, you know, they're here,

1132
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: they're doing the thing. They're not you know, I understand

1133
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: they can't do this all They're not going to do

1134
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: this all the time, and we also understand why because

1135
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: it's just kind of playing into the the guy's you know, motivations.

1136
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: But we will send a couple of messages this year

1137
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: and this is the way we're going to do it.

1138
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: And that's their power to that's their prerogative. And so

1139
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: it was nice to kind of like see what we

1140
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: can rise to. And there was two of them, actually,

1141
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: and the one was the seventh win of the our

1142
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: winning streak when we went from twelve and fifty to

1143
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: nineteen to fifty and then uh one another one was

1144
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: later and I got the saving both of them and

1145
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: lost my mind from both of them. So it is

1146
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: really really awesome that I got. I got to do

1147
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: with that a lot like I got out of Save

1148
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: on my birthday. I Gotta Save, and a bunch of

1149
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: like momentous times, and it was the things I'll never forget.

1150
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: Was so fun, just kind of knowing where we were

1151
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 3: at and we just believe that we're gonna win because

1152
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: they were behind us, and that was that was a blast.

1153
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: That was really cool. It was fun those nights too,

1154
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 4: where it's like, this is a loyal fan base that

1155
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: serves a winning ball club. Every fan base does, but

1156
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: they're one that's been there forever seen success and saw

1157
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: that their whole team get kind of torn down in

1158
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 4: their eyes. So it was very nice that you just

1159
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: feel like, like the belief and you said before, like

1160
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: you guys are entertainers, Like that's kind of the whole

1161
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: whole thing here. But last ten minutes here, want to

1162
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: bring it back to some Mets talk talk about the

1163
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: fact that things you like to do YouTube videos. You

1164
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: made one a couple of days ago that I think

1165
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: Mark and I both found pretty interesting about the Billy

1166
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: Elper situation. For the people that might not know or

1167
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: be aware that Billy Elpler's being kind of I think

1168
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: technically it's like soft spended. For the entire twenty twenty

1169
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: four season four was being called an injured liss manipulation.

1170
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: Is this something that you think that Billy Epner is

1171
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: acting on a loan or is this something that kind

1172
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: of he might be good, it might be something that

1173
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 4: he's been picked out.

1174
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: For a little bit of a both. It's a little

1175
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: bit nuanced, I think because just my experience, like the

1176
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: way this stuff happens is the guy goes into the

1177
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: training room, starts to ask some questions, gets checked out

1178
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: for things, and then the then the training staff tries

1179
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: to figure out kind of glean from you know, because

1180
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: a lot of that guys aren't just gonna be like, hey,

1181
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: my knees hurt, I need to go on the il.

1182
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: You nobody does that. You gotta be like ten years in,

1183
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: like Max Sure's coming back.

1184
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: I blink again. I've had this fifty eight times. I

1185
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: know what this is.

1186
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: Let's let's you know, let's start the wheels turning on

1187
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: the rehab, right. But younger guys are like, I want

1188
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: to don't want to go on the aile because I

1189
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: don't lose my job. So they have those conversations and

1190
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: then that's when the manager and the GM and like assistant,

1191
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: like everybody in that group kind of like, okay, so

1192
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: what do we are we going il?

1193
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: How so we could do this quickly so if we

1194
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: get a guy.

1195
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: From Triple A, we can get them on a flight

1196
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: first in the morning, as opposed to having to figure

1197
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 3: out for in the morning, especially if they're that team

1198
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: is in wherever, like they could be far away, and

1199
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: so there's there's a lot of logistics, so that speed

1200
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: is important. So this happens a lot. Everyone's privy to

1201
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: the decisions being made. The interesting thing and the thing

1202
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: that I mentioned on the radio, not in the video, was, uh,

1203
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: the advent of the covid ile and the gray area

1204
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: associated with the covid ile and testing and what needs

1205
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: what can be considered stick, what's just sickness, what's covid sickness?

1206
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: And like how do we you know, define those things?

1207
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, it was a little bit confusing

1208
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 3: sometimes and wrong league, and so I don't I don't

1209
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: actually know anything. I don't really know much about how

1210
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: that was handled. But that just is something that historically

1211
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: hasn't been there and only has been there the last

1212
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: few years, so it wouldn't surprise me if if that

1213
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: was involved somehow, because it's hard to verify without a

1214
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: testing and all that kind of stuff like and testing

1215
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: wasn't required as much anymore, so like what do you do,

1216
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: Like how many sometimes guys don't have negative tests for

1217
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: like a month, but like they haven't been contagious for

1218
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: twenty two days.

1219
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 2: They can't have that, So how do we make the decisions?

1220
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: And a lot of times it was literally a case

1221
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: by case you'd ask the MLB or whatever, like you

1222
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: had to do that stuff that happened with me, Like

1223
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: it took a while and then we're like they're like,

1224
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: you know what, We're good. And then then I had

1225
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: a negative test like right that day. So it worked out,

1226
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: but like it was taking a while and we were

1227
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: worried about it. So all that that to be said,

1228
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: I don't that's just not it's it can't be just him.

1229
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: But like knowing Billy, he would just say, hey, at

1230
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I'm the one signing the paper.

1231
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: So like just because I'm like, hey, what is he

1232
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: going to go on the island? And they're like they're

1233
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: like and he's like okay, and he signs it like.

1234
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: There's a lot of that, And but that's understandable. Everyone does,

1235
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: every team does that. There's sometimes it's close. But can

1236
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: we get you know, are we good? Are we good

1237
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: with a ten day here? Can we get away with it?

1238
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Can we handle a ten day here? And is he

1239
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: gonna be okay? Intendeds?

1240
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Is this?

1241
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: Like?

1242
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Uh so? Like there's a lot of that.

1243
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: The fabrication thing was the weird word for me because

1244
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: that insinuates that there's nothing and we're making it up completely,

1245
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: and that's hard. There's even if there's a little bit

1246
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: of verification or not much, there's still some very rarely

1247
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: can you put someone in the eye and have no

1248
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: reason Yeah, unless you're and and unless you're blatantly like

1249
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: forging a document, which seems so obvious that like that's

1250
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: gonna get caught. But again usually that's I mentioned in

1251
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: the video, it's mutually beneficial. So the weird thing that

1252
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 3: for me is why was this reported?

1253
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Like what whoever reported it?

1254
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: Why do you feel the compulsion because technically, if you like,

1255
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: it's the only other thing who would be harmed. Technically

1256
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: would is the reason it's a rule is you're going

1257
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: to get advantage over another team.

1258
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear that didn't happen. I mean, like, and

1259
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: it rarely does.

1260
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: I mean teams that like try to like have a

1261
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: lot of transactions aren't the best teams. They're not you

1262
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: don't want to do this, Like you don't want to

1263
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: do this, You're just trying to hang on. So it

1264
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: rarely is harmful to other teams in the league. So

1265
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: to kind of come out like this crazy thing was happening,

1266
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: it's not your crazy thing. Yeah, it's probably not done

1267
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 3: the right way, but to the whistleblow it the way

1268
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: it was done. Just there's something missing. I'm missing something

1269
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: relationship wise with the person or I wouldn't surprise me

1270
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 3: one bit if someone just didn't like Billy like or whatever.

1271
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I really don't.

1272
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't really have any information either, but like, just

1273
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: having been there for two years, like that's just the

1274
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: only thing it could kind of be something something like that,

1275
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: which then now we're not talking about what happened, and

1276
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: now we're talking about why we're talking about it. So

1277
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of my my take. But I don't

1278
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: I don't see me getting any more information. I don't

1279
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: think I'm ever gonna know.

1280
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.

1281
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't think we are either. I mean, like not

1282
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: to keep hammering at home. But I think this is

1283
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: probably like the last denser question before we just get

1284
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: into the viewer questions, because they they've been itching to

1285
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: ask you a couple over on Twitter. But with the

1286
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: Mets this offseason, some Mets fans would say they missed

1287
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: on some free agents, not getting Otani, not getting Amamoto, no,

1288
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: whatever it's going to be. Whoever that Met fan is

1289
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: that thinks that they missed on these guys. What's the

1290
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: perception of players of New York City playing for the Mets?

1291
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Is Is there any negative connotation or is it just

1292
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: like some guys are, like, listen, New York City's not

1293
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: for me, I'm not going there.

1294
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: You know again, that's pretty nuanced too. I can be on.

1295
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: I can tell you one thing though, the uh, the

1296
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: term metst it or that's so Mets or uh, you know,

1297
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: uh lull Mets.

1298
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: Or whatever is a players are aware.

1299
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 3: They're aware of that, and they use that term sometimes too,

1300
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: because you know, again like it's there follow barstool or

1301
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, we talked about on another show.

1302
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: I love for I love as a person. But there

1303
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: is a certain connotation that if that is the the

1304
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: the takes you are taking on that team, you're going

1305
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: to think a certain way. It's just the way it

1306
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 3: is if that's where you're getting information. He knows that,

1307
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: So everyone knows that. So sometimes yeah, there's a there

1308
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: is a like it's per portrayed in a way that

1309
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 3: is uh interesting, is is kind of hard to decipher

1310
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: as a player who's never played there. So then then

1311
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: your next thing is to talk to players, So I

1312
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: get it, Like I've asked asked this. I was asked

1313
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: this by one of the free agents to sign there,

1314
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: and they said, is it really Like so they've heard

1315
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, dude, no, Like, like, you're gonna

1316
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 3: you're gonna meet some media guys who You're like, I'm

1317
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: probably not gonna be as open with you as I might.

1318
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's Yankees, same thing, Philly, same thing, Boston,

1319
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: same thing.

1320
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: There are like four or five people.

1321
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: You're like, you're gonna get more can answers probably from

1322
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: me because I don't trust that You're not gonna try

1323
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: to spin it and that's that exists in huge markets.

1324
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: It's just LA has got some, not as many, but some,

1325
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: because that's the way you get noticed when you write stuff.

1326
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 3: So it is like it is what it is to

1327
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: an extent, Like here's a prime example.

1328
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't wanna, I don't wanna.

1329
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: This is not a commentary on the the the media

1330
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: member or or even the the network, but there was

1331
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: a quote tweeted by the movie or by the TV

1332
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: network about something that Stern said the other day and

1333
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 3: do you are you aware of what I'm ta talking about?

1334
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: It was it was about Peter A Lonzo and I

1335
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: think that's the most likely outcome that he goes to

1336
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: free agency. And I watched the video, I'm like, actually,

1337
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: that's not exactly what he said. And I know it's

1338
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: a slight different semantics, but the insinuation changes dramatically when

1339
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: you change the words. And so I was like, what

1340
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: he said was we're probably we're probably not going to

1341
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: have the conversation towards the end of the year, not

1342
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: he's going to free agency, and that's most likely. That's

1343
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: not what he said. You kind of skip the step here,

1344
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: But everyone who commented on it was just now we're

1345
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: having a conversation about what what the title says and

1346
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: not what he said, and so now I'm like, well,

1347
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: now what now everyone just thinks that and that's not

1348
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: exactly what was said. Even if it's not that big

1349
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: of a deal, that stuff compounds a little bit sometimes

1350
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: and it's hard to address when everyone thinks you thinks

1351
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: you were saying something that you weren't, And that's that's

1352
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: hard to navigate sometimes I struggle with it too.

1353
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: So but that.

1354
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't just happen in New York. Let me be very clear.

1355
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: It happens everywhere. So it's like, do you defend yourself

1356
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: or you just kind of.

1357
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: It's not real. And that's kind of what you have

1358
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: to do.

1359
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: Now that that piece of has been frustrating us too

1360
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: on the inside. That exact quote from that TV network

1361
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: that we're made unnamed. We also made a meme and

1362
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: quote tweeted it, the classic one of the little kid

1363
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: with the trumpet and the little girl like Colik clovering her ears,

1364
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: because like, how can you ask the same question every

1365
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: single day to this guy and expect to get a

1366
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: different answer. It's painful, it's just nauseating. And then when

1367
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: you start to mislead the fans just to generate clicks,

1368
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: and now you're like the whole thing we're talking about,

1369
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: you're changing the perception of this organization that you're supposed

1370
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: to be supporting. And now that we have some proof

1371
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 4: that that is again, you're not just from you, like

1372
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: right now now we have proof from Trevor May, that's

1373
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: not what we're doing. You're either. But it's just like I

1374
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: heard Matt Olsen on a podcast last year saying, like

1375
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: we were really excited to beat the Mets because of

1376
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 4: that barstool employee or because of a ball guy who

1377
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: works for radio networks. That sometimes Mark and I say

1378
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: mean things about where it's like when these people are

1379
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: so overconfident.

1380
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 2: I know who you're talking about.

1381
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: Somehow, somehow it's really obvious. Yeah, it's funny because they're

1382
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: actually two ball guys, but you still know the bald guy.

1383
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: We are talking about the fact that there's this perception

1384
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: around the league where it's like, it's more exciting to

1385
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: beat this team because of these these people outside the organization.

1386
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 4: It's like for us here, that sucks, that's awful. There's

1387
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: there's extra motivation to beat our favorite team, like it's painful.

1388
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like yeah, it's one of those things like yeah,

1389
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: it's fine if there's extra, like it's not that big

1390
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: of a deal, but it does, like it has an effect,

1391
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: and we kind of just don't act like it, like

1392
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: what you're saying doesn't matter.

1393
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: Like I hear that a lot. I hear.

1394
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: I hear some people say, well, you know, you should

1395
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: just ignore me. I'm a human being.

1396
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: Not that easy you ignore me. Oh you can't.

1397
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: It's hard, so like you know, like then it just

1398
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: norm when I when I struggle, then just you ignore me,

1399
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: ignore my performance. You can't because you know, because it's

1400
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: happening and what you're saying is happening, So I'm not

1401
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: gonna work.

1402
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: So uh, it's one of those things.

1403
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: But now now we have a thing going that doesn't

1404
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: is unnecessary and doesn't really help or drive drive the

1405
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: drive the story for it at all. So it's not

1406
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: like I don't need everyone to be like yay, keep

1407
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: going guys, like we don't.

1408
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: We're not.

1409
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: That's that's not the only other option, the only the

1410
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: one thing is just like sometimes benefit a little bit

1411
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: of hope every once in a while because that's fun too.

1412
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't always have to be like it doesn't have

1413
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: to be like they're going all the way too and

1414
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: they're the worst team ever, Like, it doesn't have to

1415
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: be those two things. And sometimes that, you know, we

1416
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: get very polarized that way because it's helpful for the

1417
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: job that the people that are doing saying that are doing.

1418
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: It's helpful for driving numbers, which is the world we

1419
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: live in too, So I'm empathetic that as well, especially

1420
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: now that's what I do.

1421
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: So title title, Trevor May says, Pete Alonzo is coming

1422
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: back there it is flicks.

1423
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, who knows at the end of the day,

1424
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: that's what Sayst's like, who knows, But right now it's

1425
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 3: not happening right now, and the things that are lining up,

1426
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: like based on track record, Scott Boris last year, platform year,

1427
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: you don't usually get extensions done with Stop Wars.

1428
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: Now it just doesn't really happen. He doesn't really do it.

1429
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't even engage, so like, don't count on this

1430
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 3: happening right now. And that's true, that's him being honest

1431
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: and true. But he's like, I'm not going to answer

1432
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: this question very much anymore. And I'm not going to

1433
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: update you on the conversations, which I thought was awesome.

1434
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: But everyone's like, oh, he's so he's so uh what

1435
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: do they What did I say? I saw one that

1436
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: was like he's so sure of himself, Like he's just says, yeah,

1437
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to fill you in, guys, so

1438
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't count on it. Maybe maybe that'll help you

1439
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: not ask the same question over again. It won't, mister Stearns.

1440
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: They're going to ask you figure a lot more.

1441
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: Got about a six months worth of the questions left.

1442
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like this is this

1443
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: is it man, I'm here, like you know, it's where

1444
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: he grew up too, so it's like very part of

1445
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: it too.

1446
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's all how you think about it.

1447
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: I guess he said he got more at Thanksgiving than

1448
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: he gets from the media and Christmas dinner as like

1449
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: his cousins and his uncles and his family members being like,

1450
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 4: what are you doing with the team. He's like, I

1451
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: got under control. And I also love that Mets fans

1452
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: are now like he's so smug, like he's an Ivy leaguer.

1453
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: It's like, I do not want ivy leaguer to run

1454
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: you a baseball team. What's going on here?

1455
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's just like it's just it's just

1456
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: how it is. It's just how it is. It's just

1457
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: the it's the incentive at the end of the day. Yep.

1458
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Of course, Trevor, we could probably talk even more baseball

1459
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: with you that we already have, but we want to

1460
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: sneak in a couple couple viewer questions. Like you said

1461
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: from Twitter, this is a Mets, Mets fan legend, Jordan Simpson,

1462
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: he's a musician. He says, Uh, for me as a musician,

1463
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: studying pitching mechanics slash pitching videos really helps and inspires

1464
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: me musically. Was there anything non baseball related that would

1465
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: help slash inspire you with pitching qu's mindset?

1466
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Anything?

1467
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that is a really good question. I feel like

1468
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot, but nothing is popping into my head. Yeah,

1469
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: taking little bits and pieces.

1470
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1471
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like from other sports, how guys, uh, you know,

1472
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: address certain things. One big thing for me is always

1473
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: I've always thought about pitching as a simple three step

1474
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: process where you are basically picking a pitch, focusing in

1475
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: on and then iking it.

1476
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: That's it.

1477
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: Like you just repeat that over and over again, which

1478
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: makes it seem boring when you do it too many

1479
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: times in a row, but uh, it also makes it

1480
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: very simple for like making adjustments. And then I always

1481
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: applied that same logic to like what's that in basketball?

1482
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: What is that in football? Like who's making decisions and

1483
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: how they make them? And it came down to we

1484
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: all make the same decisions kind of the same order.

1485
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 3: It's just the amount of time we have to make it.

1486
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: And so that was the big thing, like I learned

1487
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 3: from tennis is a great example. Tennis is fast, but

1488
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: you have to you're like taking information. You're trying to

1489
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: remember what you know about how that like in what situations,

1490
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: how they what kind of shots they try to hit

1491
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: on you, like how do they lob? When do they lob?

1492
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: When do they backhand? When do they you know, you're

1493
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: trying to get them to go to one side. You

1494
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: have to remember that stuff, but also react. So like

1495
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: pitching is similar in that we have to know what

1496
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: we're trying to do and then throw and react. Like

1497
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: throwing and react is the fast part. The thinking is

1498
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: the is the longest part. And uh, I'm like well,

1499
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: then how do they do it? And then how do

1500
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: I do it? How can I be quick? Trying to

1501
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: learn things like how can I be? How prepared do

1502
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: I need to be to react quickly? This was big

1503
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: during the during the clock changes, I looked at tennis

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 3: and it was it was really enlightening. Read a little

1505
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 3: bit about it, like Jokic talking about uh K Jokovic sorry,

1506
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: Jokich is a Yoko talking about how he prepares, like

1507
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: what he looks at and wants what he wants to

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: know about guys.

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Speaker 2: Because it lined up pretty well. So that Other sports

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 2: were a big one.

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: I love the I love the the.

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Speaker 2: Musician side of things too. That's really interesting.

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: Uh there's a lot of like mental you know, mental approach,

1514
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: like long distance runners, but it's always like athletes or

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: high performers that you would take stuff from, like how

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: do you get yourself?

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01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: How do you do anxiety? How do you like? That

1518
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 2: was a big topic for me too.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, just a bunch of different sources and I

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01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: tried to like aggregate a lot of them. And I'm

1521
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: always just curious and random stuff anyways. So but yeah,

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: just looking looking kind of in those areas. Other sports

1523
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: was a big one because there's so many parallels.

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: Other question from Bella one probably messed up the biggest

1525
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 4: fan that exists out there being a player for ten years.

1526
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: Does that effect like the way you watch baseball games

1527
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 4: now at home? I guess hasn't technically happened yet, But

1528
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: will you do you think you'll be on the couch

1529
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: with a very different mindset than the average fan or

1530
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: just having taking in the game in a different way.

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll I think I'll thrive the

1532
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: most when I have someone who doesn't know so much.

1533
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: I can teach them about, you know, what guys are

1534
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: thinking and what they might try to do. I was

1535
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: also saying this on the radio the other day that

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. My favorite thing. The thing I'm most

1537
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: excited about is predict making predictions nice and just like

1538
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: seeing if like Tony romoing it a little bit and

1539
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: like being like, he's going to throw this here, or

1540
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: he's going to try to hit it over here, or

1541
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: they might hit run here, or they might drop a

1542
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 3: butnt or I got to steal in the second pitch

1543
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 3: because I know, like Akunya catching when Acuna is going

1544
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 3: to steal, is going to be so fun because I

1545
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: think I'm I think it'snna be really easy. It's so good.

1546
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you know or not. So like

1547
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: that stuff. I'm really excited for that stuff. I think

1548
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: that's going to be what my viewing experience is like.

1549
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: Last question here, this comes from Michael Morgan and probably

1550
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: an easy answer for you, but we'll see. Are you

1551
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: done done? Or will you keep your arm in shape

1552
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: in case the team comes calling in August for a

1553
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: veteran's presence, And then he said we need you, Trev.

1554
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: I just saw that. I saw that. I thought one

1555
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: on Twitter.

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: I was going to reply, So I'm glad that we

1557
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: got it here. No or yes, I am done done.

1558
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: Someone else asked me yesterday that if the Mariner's off you,

1559
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: one year deal would come out. I'm like, well, first

1560
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: of all, report day is yesterday, so I'm late. Second

1561
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: of all, I retired in October. Guys, I didn't leave

1562
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: the door open. It's not like I couldn't have gotten

1563
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: the job. It was possible that I could have signed.

1564
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: If I really tried with the Mariners. I could have

1565
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: been like, hey, i'll take minimum and they're like they

1566
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 3: would be absolutely so stupid not to take that, but

1567
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 3: or just give me a shot in spring, right, minor

1568
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: league deal, Like if I really wanted to, I could have.

1569
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to.

1570
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: So No, I think that I think that I'm gonna

1571
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 3: enjoy top talking about it and creating really interesting content

1572
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 3: like going to games and showing different types of stuff

1573
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 3: and talking about different things. And you know, I hope

1574
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: Netflix calls for season two of the of the you know,

1575
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: of the documentary series because I'm so excited for that.

1576
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: I'm so glad baseball is getting that, even if it's

1577
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: the Red Sox. Yeah, sadly so.

1578
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1579
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: I think that I think that this is just where

1580
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: I want to be, and it's it's pretty clear to

1581
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: me at this point that I think that being done

1582
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: is I'm really okay with it.

1583
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: Well, Trevor is always thank you so much for coming

1584
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Such a pleasure. Hopefully we'll get you

1585
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: during the season, maybe have some positive things to talk

1586
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: about with the Mets. Maybe they'll be surprising everybody here

1587
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: before we go, let everybody know the listeners, the viewers,

1588
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: where to find you, what's going on, what you whatever,

1589
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: you want to plug, go for it.

1590
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, big thing Trevor May Baseball on YouTube that is

1591
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 3: getting the vast majority of my attention. Right after I'm

1592
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 3: done with this, I have a video that I've been

1593
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: working on for all month and it needs to be done.

1594
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: Relieve rankings, No, it's bigger. I'm predicting everything from this

1595
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 3: whole season, so where everyone's going to place in their divisions,

1596
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: and then all the solo awards, and then who's winna

1597
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: win the World Series and all the records and and

1598
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: all the seeds and everything.

1599
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: So here's some hot takes in there.

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: Please don't get super mad at me, you know, but

1601
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be super surprised with my analysis

1602
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: very similar to what I give you on the Mets

1603
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 3: today about the question marks, but also a lot of

1604
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 3: experience and potential.

1605
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: So not that crazy there.

1606
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 3: But there might be some other teams that are like,

1607
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: come on, man, So but let me know in the

1608
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: comments kind of wait. And then another thing that I've

1609
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: implemented is my Discord channel has kind of been split

1610
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: into two. This is Discord dot gg slash govern May

1611
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: and you can basically come in and I have gaming

1612
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 3: stuff in there, and I have my baseball side of things,

1613
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: and you can tell me which one you like the most,

1614
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: and you only see that stuff. So if you're into

1615
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: just the baseball, you select baseball when you join, and

1616
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 3: there's all these forums. Each team has their own forum post.

1617
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: We have some other things will be going through the year,

1618
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: So if you want another place to go chat with

1619
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: other people who like baseball, that's a good place to

1620
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: do it too.

1621
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm being more and more active.

1622
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: We have all kinds of fun stuff going to like

1623
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: you can earn points and level up and we'll be

1624
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: doing give I want to do taket giveaways and things,

1625
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 3: and being there will be the best place for you

1626
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 3: to participate in those things through the year. I don't

1627
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: know a lot of that stuff's going to check out,

1628
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 3: but a lot of ideas and that's kind of become

1629
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 3: our community hope.

1630
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then obviously all the socials. I'm Trevan

1631
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: and everywhere. Awesome.

1632
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: All right, Trevor, once again, thank you so much for

1633
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: coming on, and guys, thank you for listening watching. We'll

1634
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: catch you on the next episode of the Mess Up Podcast.

1635
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: Peace Out, peace out.

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 4: To see you guys next time.