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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williams,

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Speaker 1: and we are alive from Steelers training camp here at Sat.

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Speaker 1: Princent College. Steelers breaking off here into this a special

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Speaker 1: team session here. It looks like it's gonna be yeah,

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Speaker 1: rookie watch ride receiver George Pickens is going to be

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Speaker 1: a problem, Uh the opponent, Yes, for the Opponent's not

425
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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. The Pickens halt in the corner of

426
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: the end zone over the shoulder, toe tapping tear dropped

427
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: from Mason Rudolph against the Seahawks on Saturday night. He

428
00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: caught two other passes in the Steelers preseason win. Want

429
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: a high degree of the difficulty sidelines here, I thought

430
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: that that catch was it kind of got overshadowed. But boyd,

431
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: not many people make that play either, and he makes

432
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: that every day here. Uh he said he also did

433
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Speaker 1: some blocking. The impressive debut comes at the end of

434
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: what has been touted as a monstrous training camp for

435
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: the second round pick from Georgia, George Pickens. He's him

436
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: uh in upper case H. I M there. Uh So,

437
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: how on earth did Pickens fall to the second round?

438
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: You ask, as if such an information were not readily

439
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: available from multiple sources. Yeah, uh, he said, How did

440
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf be the last pick in the second round? Right?

441
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: You know? I mean it looks like right, all right?

442
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: At that position, there's always a lot and we can

443
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: get I don't mean to interrupt your article, but it

444
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: only take I mean, if every team that took a

445
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: receiver before the Steelers had Pickens as their second rank. Guy,

446
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the way it went, right, he

447
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: would still fall, you know, if the right people were there,

448
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, so falling in the draft in

449
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: quotes doesn't mean there's always something wrong with you. Sometimes

450
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 1: it's just a coincidence. That whoever was the first receiver

451
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: draft in the second round, that team very well could

452
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: have been like Pickens were our guy coin flip, I

453
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: don't know, and Pickens lost, you know whatever. So there's

454
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: a lot of extenuating circumstances. But he was coming off

455
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: and knee. He was definitely that. I think that was

456
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: a big part of it, coming off the knee. Only

457
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, Sparingly played last season and even what he

458
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: did wasn't super productive, but it wasn't himself, right, Yeah,

459
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean that tape is if you I'm sure there

460
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Speaker 1: was some draft or you know, people at home they're

461
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: wanting to learn about these guys and went and watched

462
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: last year's Georgia tape of Pickens. Well that's nothing like

463
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: what you're seeing here. No, I mean, no, he's It

464
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: makes the scouting part process hard to go back to

465
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: eighteen year old Pickens to really evaluate him, and then

466
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, do we know he's going

467
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: to get back to that? I mean, we don't know it.

468
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: There's some uncertainty there. Yeah, there's definitely, I mean he

469
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: could that could certainly be a problem coming back from

470
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: something that my Tanier does good work. He joined us

471
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: to combine. He's a fun guy to be around. So

472
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: it's just another example of the national folks just really

473
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Speaker 1: figuring out what's going on here. If he's I'm not

474
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: saying he's Jamar Chase, you know. I mean Jamar Chase

475
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: was a rare rookie, and I think Pickens can be

476
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: a rare rookie, but maybe not at all time rare rookie.

477
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: That three at trio. I mean you talked about everyone

478
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: talks about the Bengals trio. That's the best receivers in

479
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: the league. Now the Chase is here. If Pickens is

480
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: in that mold, didn't you know a rare type guy,

481
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: this one's not gonna be much different. Yeah, you know

482
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that, I'd still have Boyd fourth

483
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: of or sixth of all the uh Bengals or Steelers,

484
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, and Jay Chase would be one. But if

485
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: Pickens and Claypool and Beyante are all as good as

486
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: they possibly could be, there's not gonna be many trios

487
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: in the league better. Yeah. If you look at that

488
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver draft this year, Drake London went eighth overall

489
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: to the Falcon. Garrett Wilson then went tenth to the Jets.

490
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: Christal Lovey went at eleventh to the Saints, Jamison Williams

491
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: twelfth to the Lions. Jamison Williams kind of in the

492
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: same situation pickings. I'll know James in the in the

493
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: comeback part of yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more recent injury. Yeah. Um.

494
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: Then you look John Dotson to the Commanders at sixteen.

495
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: It seemed a little rich at the time too, but

496
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: receivers were flying off the board, trailing Burke's to the

497
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Titans at eighteen and uh, Christian Watson then to the

498
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: Packers in the second round at thirty four one, Delle

499
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Robinson to the Giants. See that's the one. I think

500
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 1: teams will look back and be like, we really took

501
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: Wondoll Robinson over Pickings. Yeah, and I think he'snna have

502
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: a good career. Like I kind of like the player,

503
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: but like when Metcalf, I keep putting on Metcalf because

504
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: just as he's so freaky. I mean that he was

505
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: the last pick in the second round, but Andy Isabella

506
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: went ahead of him, and you know ar Sega Whiteside,

507
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: who they just traded for a bag of balls. You know,

508
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: those guys went ahead of them. And even at the time,

509
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that my fifteen year old son

510
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: would have taken those guys over Dk Metcalf, you know

511
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like sometimes just take the stud that

512
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: doesn't look like everybody else. And I like Wandel Robinson.

513
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: But I'll bet my bottom dollar Pickens has a better

514
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: career than him. I would Yeah, I would think so

515
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: as well. John MITCHI went to the Texans at he's

516
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: coming off an injury and he's you know, he's long

517
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: term issues. No as well. But even at the time,

518
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: if you told me, you know, even on draft day,

519
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: and I'm a revisionist history here, you ask Pickens or MATCHI,

520
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: who has a chance to be a perennial pro bowler,

521
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: I would have picks Uh Tekawon Thornton was a surprise

522
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: pick there fifty because the pot anything they want, you know,

523
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: they don't make a whole lot of sense. And then

524
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Pickens went uh and the Steelers. This, this to me

525
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: says a lot about how much the Steelers like George Pickens.

526
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: They took George Pickens ahead a sky more. Yes, I

527
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: would take this guy more ahead of those three we

528
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: just talked about. He had both them. I was surprised.

529
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Guy More fell as far as he did, but he

530
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: goes the next three, the next picks after George Pickens

531
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: could sook Alec Pierce, and then the Chiefs took a

532
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: sky more see my hunches. And then We'll never know

533
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: this answer, but I bet the Steelers are sitting there

534
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of chuckling to theirselves, going, oh wandall Robinson went, oh,

535
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: Thornton went, who was the other one right in that neighborhood,

536
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: John mac like. I'm sure they liked all those guys,

537
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: But I just have a real strong hunch that if

538
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: you told them before the draft started that in the

539
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: second round you would end up with more Piers or Pickens,

540
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: they would say thank you ably, And they probably sat

541
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: there going, yeah, Pickens our favorite of those, and that

542
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: that that much we know is true. But I can

543
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: live with either of them, so I don't have to

544
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: trade up. And some of these teams are doing us

545
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: a favor by drafting good guy is, but not the

546
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: ones we want, you know what I mean? Like, I

547
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: think all three of those would have made perfect sense here.

548
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: You and I did eight thousand mock drafts before the

549
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: draft and would have been very happy with sky More

550
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: in the second round. I mean, if Pickens would have

551
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: went the first, we wouldn't have about it. And I

552
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, and Pickens was our guy there. I think

553
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: several times he was available to us when we took him. Um,

554
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: and you wonder I hadn't thought about this for a while,

555
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: but trail Burkes went eighteen, and I think he was

556
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: the fifth receiver off the board. Uh because Williams, So

557
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: they're six gone when the Steelers picked Thoughts and was

558
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: the one I wasn't thinking of would they have taken

559
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: one of those six at twenty? And then obviously the

560
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: whole draft had a much different feel to it. Obviously

561
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take pike It over Pickens, we know that, Um,

562
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: but would they have taken pick It over Thoughts in

563
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: a love a whomever? I don't know, don't you know?

564
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: But it worked out so well that you wouldn't have

565
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: been in the pick in his market if you took

566
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Burks at twenty or whatever, you know what I mean,

567
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: because then you'd be sitting there in the second round

568
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: going boy, I would have rather had Pickt and Pickings

569
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: than Burks and Willis Ritter you know, wherever you took there,

570
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean it's it's obviously

571
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: still very very early in this. Of course, of course

572
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. We've seen one preseason game here,

573
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling that if things were redrafted

574
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: again right now, I think Pickens goes in the top

575
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: ten overall. Yeah yeah, because I mean there's no health issues. Yeah,

576
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: that's gone. It's out the window, right And then you'd

577
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: have some tape to say, oh, that's the eighteen year

578
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: old pickings. But he's bigger and stronger and better. And

579
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: these way too early, you know, mcshae mocks and stuff.

580
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Everyone had pickings going like the top five. If you

581
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: would have came out the year before, you know, like

582
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: this is the best receiver prospect in the country. Some

583
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: some you know, things coming out about like trailing Burks

584
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: is still playing into the fourth quarter of a game

585
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: because they're not super happy with them, right, Conditioning and

586
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff too. And I guess he had quote asthma,

587
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: which I guess he did. I'm not questioning that, but

588
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence he lost like six

589
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: or seven pounds from mini camp to training camp. It

590
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: wasn't because he couldn't stay on the field. Yeah, you know,

591
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade Barks for Pickings. No, I mean no,

592
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: not now. I wouldn't trade him for any of the

593
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: guys who were drafted him, none other than maybe Jamison Williams.

594
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him yet. I would consider Williams, but

595
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: he's too much of an unknown. Right, I'll take hands, right,

596
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean I would rather have Pickens in London. Yeah,

597
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: he looks like he looks like a star. It looks

598
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: like it looks like a star. Got a second first

599
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: round draft pick. Yes, yes, that's what it looks like here.

600
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: So they got their quarterback, they get their cake and

601
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: they get to eat it too. And if Pickens is

602
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: the only guy in the whole draft class it hits

603
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: for you, it's still a good class. Yeah, you know,

604
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have a harder time getting over the hump where

605
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: there you know everyday starter type guys. If it doesn't

606
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: happen for Piket and you, all you get out of

607
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: this is Pickings and you know some other guys who

608
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: keep on for a contract, it's still a good draft. Yeah.

609
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: I think it probably comes out a little bit better

610
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: than that for the Steelers. I mean I'm thinking worst case.

611
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick look here at this draft class

612
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and what we've learned thus far about these guys. Obviously,

613
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett we've talked a ton about. We just got

614
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: them talking about George Picketts. Where do you see to

615
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Marvin LEEO right now in his progress? I like, Um,

616
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen enough, which is hard

617
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: to say because this is practice eighteen or whatever, as

618
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: you said, and we have a preseason game. But the

619
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: line stuff, I'm kind of having a hard time watching

620
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: just practice and saying I have a firm analysis on

621
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: the old line as it is, the D line as

622
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: it is. Um. He flashed though in that game, and

623
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: that's what I expect of him of his whole rookie years,

624
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: to be a flash player that might play ten snaps

625
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: a game, twelve snaps a game, fresh, exciting. Um ends

626
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: up with a handful of sacks maybe yeah, three or

627
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: four maybe, Yeah. I think he had. There's some potential

628
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: there for that because he's gonna be on the roster.

629
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. Like what I've seen of Calvin Austin

630
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: thus far in his camp, absolutely literally we didn't get

631
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: to see him in the game. He was the fourth

632
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: rown pick. Connor Hayward in the I have his conspiracy

633
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: theory on that because I know Austin thought out there practicing.

634
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying his his his uh injuries made up,

635
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: but he got hurt of a walk through and I

636
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: just kind of felt like maybe the Steelers don't want

637
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the world to see his day. He's

638
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: been a walking boots and I mean, I know there's

639
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: something wrong, but I thought that at the time, and

640
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: then we came back here Monday or whatever and he's

641
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: in a boot something okay, but it just kind of

642
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: tinfoil hat. That kind of came on, like maybe they

643
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: don't want the world to see what he is. Quite yet, Yeah,

644
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: we've we've seen what Connor Hayward looks like. He looks

645
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: like he's going to be a contributor this year as

646
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: well pickings aside. He might be the most value considering

647
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: where you paid for him. I mean, he paid nothing

648
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: for people. People. He said, well, they only took him

649
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: because he's called he's Camy words a little brother. I'm

650
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: sure that didn't hurt. It didn't hurt, but he's he's

651
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: showing to be much more than that. Right, and see

652
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the thing about the whole brothers thing or taking the

653
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: kid from Pitt is, well, we know more about them.

654
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: So if Hayward, the young Hayward was not a good

655
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: prospect and they know all this stuff about them, they

656
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken him. But the fact that they know

657
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: more than thirty one other teams about the player, they

658
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: probably had a better grade on him. I mean, Scotting

659
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: is all about information, you know. I think that's why

660
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Pickett was so alluring to him, was like, they know

661
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: everything about this guy. You know, like how many teams

662
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: in the how many players were drafted something like that

663
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to seventy something. I don't know what it is. You

664
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: can't tell me that there were any more picks made

665
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: in the draft where the team knew more about the

666
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: guy they drafted than Hayward and Pickett. Yeah, we have

667
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: more information than the rest of the league. Let's take

668
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: advantage of it. Absolutely than in the seventh round. With

669
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: their first seventh round pick, they took Mark Robinson. He's

670
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: he's flashes here and there. I'm excited to talk about

671
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: Mark Robinson a year from now next camp, you know. Absolutely.

672
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: And then Chrystal Lotakong the I'm excited about him next year. Yeah,

673
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: so I think I'll take it. It looks like a

674
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: pretty decent draft. Now you could say that you may

675
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: have a long term started quarterback in there too, Right,

676
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: that makes it a home run. Yeah, that's a great class, right,

677
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Pickens alone is to your point, makes this okay? This

678
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: is it won't be a bad drafts. I Yeah, it's

679
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: gonna be an impactful draft, one where or the other.

680
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Much like last year, you know, with with Harrison Friarmouth

681
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: and DJ Dan Moore and you know, I know Kendrick

682
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Green wasn't great, but he he did start fifteen games

683
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: for you only teams, only two teams, the Lions and Jets,

684
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: played more rookie snaps on the Steelers, and there were

685
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: some growing pains there. But that stuff's gonna pay off.

686
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: It should pay off this year. We're gonna take an

687
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be the top of league this year. No,

688
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe they will either. Uh, we're

689
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am

690
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Dale Lalli. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

691
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are live from

692
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here at St. Fencent College, and we'll

693
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: be back with more right after this. He's The Drive

694
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the

695
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am

696
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. We're live from Steelers

697
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: training camp here at St. Fencent College. Team going through

698
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: what's essentially looks This is what a regular season practice

699
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: looks like. By and large, UM, don't get hurt as

700
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: you're working off cards. Somebody I forgot the football in

701
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: that one center's change. It was not good. I don't

702
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: know who that was on, but oh everyone moved and

703
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: the ball didn't Typically that is on the center usually, Yeah,

704
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: but what knew might be the new guy that they

705
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: claimed yesterday. So yeah, maybe we went through his first

706
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: practice here. Um, not the best first impression of his case. No,

707
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough, though. That's got to be so

708
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: tough first thing. Okay, So the NFL and now has

709
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: that acclamation period. He acclamation period at the beginning of

710
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: training camp that the teams have to be the here

711
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: for four days before they can start actually practicing practicing.

712
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: They signed guys off the street. And they can now

713
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: just come right down the hill and start practicing and

714
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: they don't need the acclaimation at it used to be

715
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: they had to have two days of acclamation themselves running

716
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: around just not in padges. Right, you're new, you need

717
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: to get acclimated. Now it's like you just jump right

718
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: onto the moving train. There's no way fans or buts

719
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: about it. You gotta be out there. I'm sure that

720
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: there's some medical research that says that acclamation helps the players, players, safety,

721
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: all that, and I'm not disputing that, but it seems

722
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: like overkilled to me a little bit, you know a

723
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: little bit. But these guys all want to stay healthy,

724
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's the coach's goal as much as anything.

725
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know. J. K. Thomas was sitting here

726
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: talking about Chuck nov As all the old legendary guys,

727
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: do you know, and he's laughing like, Man, if some

728
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: one of us would have went the Chuck for a

729
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: mental health day or a heat acclamation day, I mean

730
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: we would have been laughed off campus and thrown out,

731
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 1: you know, like. And I know that that's ancient history,

732
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: it's a million years ago, but I do think that

733
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: even the coaching world realizes, probably our first goal in

734
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: a seventeen game season. This isn't a twelve game season.

735
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: It's just getting to Game one with our best guys,

736
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: you know. And we'll do more coaching as the season

737
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: goes on, especially in a salary cap era, right right,

738
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: It's not you can go out and replace these guys

739
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: or make a trade easily or anything like that. And

740
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking nothing away against the Supersteelers, like it's the

741
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: best team ever assembled, but they had first round picks

742
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: laying around that couldn't get the field, you know what

743
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Like their their backups. I'm sure we're better

744
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: than most teams backups or a lot of teams starters

745
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: you know that could have had even great careers. Now

746
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: they're all wound up. Maybe it must be some kind

747
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: of competition period. Here Cam here, we're trying to fire

748
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: up the troops. Here, you and I could use it

749
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: looks like some third down work here. This This is again,

750
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: this is very much like a regular season practice. So

751
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: this is a This is looks like this is ones

752
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: versus ones. They do this to basically finish off pretty

753
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: much every h This isn't one sources ones, No, it is,

754
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: it's just not it's awesome glue. And but they get this.

755
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: The skill position players are all the the starting shield

756
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: position players. I mean, pickets run the show. I assume

757
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: this is two minute. Remember like yesterday, Pickt and Rudolph

758
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: are probably run two minutes. Another two minute here and not.

759
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: We'll see. It's it's a third the show and third

760
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: down stick. It might just be third down work. That's always.

761
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell today it's a coition. It really

762
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: it's a one defense. I mean, wat's out there, cams

763
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: out there, You're right, the old dudes are out there.

764
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I had some during the last break, some fans came over.

765
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: How do you know when they're in pads and when

766
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to be in padiling You don't? Yeah,

767
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, I have pretty good idea, you know, having

768
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure some hunches, yeah, for three decades when they're

769
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: gonna be in pads and when they're not. But even

770
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly when that's going to be the case.

771
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: You do want a season basically that's gonna go. But

772
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: I mean, um, and you know after the first one,

773
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: after the game probably won't be I pads, you know,

774
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: but I know, like yeah, so they were like, but

775
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: we didn't expect this. Yeah, it kind of felt like

776
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: they wasted their time coming out. Not wasted their time,

777
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I said, but this is what a regular season practice

778
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: looks like. Their game planning and picking held the ball

779
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: too long. There again, they did overthrew overshot too. Yeah,

780
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you just gotta throw the football. I need to,

781
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: uh side note and remind me because on Fantasy points

782
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: dot com they've been putting out great Coat Sells notes

783
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: every day and they came out today all his stuff

784
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: he saw from the weekend off coaches tape, and there's

785
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: a clip in there about the Steelers quarterbacks and he

786
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: was very very impressed with Picket and his poise, his leadership,

787
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: all those things. Um, and make sure I cut and

788
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: paste that and send it to it meant to this morning,

789
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: and I got busy with something else or whatever. But

790
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: there is something to pick it about being a gamer.

791
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: And that's always hard for me in a scouting world

792
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: because there's no science behind it. There's no logic behind

793
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: some logic. But you know, what he's done on the

794
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: practice field compared to what he did in that game

795
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: is it's not night and day, because he's getting much

796
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: much better on the practice field, but the timing and

797
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: the getting the ball out and stuff was exceptional in

798
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the game, and that started to trust it more and more. Yeah. Um,

799
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, there was the one fourth down play they

800
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: got just completely blown up and he took a sack there,

801
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: which you can't do. Um. But yeah, by and large,

802
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: it was it was a good first showing. I'm very

803
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: encouraged by. Yeah, well we'll see how it looks Saturday

804
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and Steelers play their second preseason game and

805
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 1: the third preseason game. Because be a blast with picking

806
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: or pick it. If he plays, Yeah, he's gonna play

807
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: a heavy percent. Think he starts that game and plays

808
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: three quarters at a lot of time. Yeah, if not

809
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing, just to give him then you really

810
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: get in and can get a lot more situations too. Yeah. Yeah,

811
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you know in the first and fifteen,

812
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: you know a second and these kind of games that

813
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: you may not get the looks you want. Yeah, you

814
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. You know, maybe it

815
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: may be in a pouring rainstorm. You don't know, right,

816
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: and then you can't do anything that you wanted to. Yeah,

817
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: like all the stuff we wanted to see, we just

818
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: visit incomplete, right window, Um, we got Rudolph back here.

819
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Now it looks like two versus twos, give or take? Right,

820
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, maybe even threes. And he kind of

821
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: actually held the ball those two long It's also easy

822
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: to hold the ball in these situations because you know

823
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: it's not live and no one's gonna so and said,

824
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody said, you know about the game, you

825
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: know it. Are you excited to see these guys in

826
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: these situations? And he's like, yeah, because they haven't seen

827
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: a live pocket yet. Nobody's gonna hit the quarterback in

828
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: these and they know it and everyone knows that. And

829
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: I can buy us Midge more time, and so why

830
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't I, you know, And guys are open be on

831
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: seven on seven. They're not getting beat up through the

832
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: route or you know all that type of stuff too.

833
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Practice is great, but it's practice. It is practice, and

834
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: today's kind of definition of that. Just over from this

835
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: a little bit and over further there. But he was

836
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: free though, he was free. White team again, White getting

837
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: free again again. He's an uphill climb, but he's someone

838
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: to root for, and he comes to practice every day

839
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: and gives it everything he's got. And I think he'll

840
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: be on a practice squad again, I would think so. Yeah,

841
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I would think she's also a special team capabilities. Yeah,

842
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: um so, I think, you know, the teammates like him,

843
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: and they sure he's been here for a while. And again,

844
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: his dad's on the scouting. He grew up with it.

845
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of understand. I think he gets

846
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: what it is to be a professional. I think so.

847
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: And I think that got a big part. Well, you know,

848
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: you know exactly all right, I'm on the scouts. I'm

849
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: gonna give you a hell of a look. And that

850
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: was the second time today that he came free deep downfield. Yeah,

851
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't understand why he four's got the

852
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: red beanie on his hat. I'm not quite sure either.

853
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: When they were doing scout team stuff, I thought, is

854
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: that Travis a t N or you know what I mean?

855
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: There's something like that. Does he mean he's somebody else?

856
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: But in the drill like this, I mean, I guess

857
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: they are still putting up two cards. I mean they're

858
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: giving looks for the defense. So maybe he is Travis

859
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: at n or you know, I know a special players.

860
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll distinguish they do that. They'll have jerseys at

861
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: the yeah yeah season they actually have the numbers on them.

862
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes sense, right, that is in this situation.

863
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that means. No, I don't either.

864
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Maybe they forgot to take it off. They may forgot

865
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: to take it off. I don't think it's a non

866
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: contact thing because he just got contact from training or

867
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: with Yeah he did. That's a nice throw. That's a

868
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: nice route by Heyward too. Yeah, right down to see that.

869
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: That steam route is really uh it's been that's been

870
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: a good theme of the day. Yeah, yeah, I know

871
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: you're thinking about. I don't envy you because you gotta

872
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: write some stuff about practice and there's not a lot

873
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: to take care. But tight ends over the middle was

874
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a theme today, hitting him and

875
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: stride in breaking routes. That was kind of like a

876
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: real skinny post Heywards run Heywards on a variety of routes.

877
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Too quick, quick, quick, have his brakes. Yeah absolutely, but

878
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: now eight he's putting a little hat on, so it

879
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: means something. It means something. Yeah, that's the hot guy.

880
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but a wallo cons

881
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: one taking a snap. I mean, this is a scout team,

882
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: look all day long, all day long. Yeah, let's just

883
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: see him throw the ball. Though I like his delivery.

884
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he throws the ball as well as

885
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: the other guys, but it's smooth. Yeah, it's very smooth,

886
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, kind of an effortless thrower. I just haven't

887
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: seen him make arms strength throw. He's seen him makes

888
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: like five throws. Yeah, that's just you just don't know. Um,

889
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: they saw something. Often times you see him behind the

890
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: actual quarterbacks just going through the doing the steps and

891
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: the mental reps, taking the snap and then he kind

892
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: of uses the arm motions to see where he would

893
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: throw the footmall. So it's been interesting watching him do this, right.

894
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not easy because you're not gonna get

895
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: a lot of attention, you're not gonna get a lot

896
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: of opportunity. But if you're on this field, you might

897
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: as well get better. Absolutely, Matt, we're gonna take another

898
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: break because Matt Williams and I am Dale Lally. You're

899
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Speaker 1: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and

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