WEBVTT - SUNDAY SAMPLER - The Nashville Podcast Network (3-3-24)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, guys. Hope you're having a good weekend. Sunday Sampler.

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<v Speaker 1>Some highlights from some of the podcasts that you may

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<v Speaker 1>have missed. The Bobby Cast, Four Things with Amy Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Sore Losers Movie, Mike's Movie podcast, Get Real with Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Sore Losers lunchbox ran into a major celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of sports, and then the guys played

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<v Speaker 1>good dad or bad Dad. You can hear that coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in a second. On Get Real with Caroline Hobby,

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<v Speaker 1>she sat down with singer songwriter Sarah Beth Tate. Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Beth is awesome. She's also been on the road with

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie and I. And in the Bobby Cast, Riley Green

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<v Speaker 1>stopped by the house. It was the longest that Riley

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<v Speaker 1>and I have ever hung out. We're forced to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there for an hour, but it ended up being great.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other time it's been very quickly doing shows together.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, I like this, dude, I think you will too.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go first with the Bobby Cast. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you like this, go listen to that episode because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you just missed it, or go subscribe to the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Here you go. The Bobby cast with Riley Green.

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<v Speaker 1>Help.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get any sort of flack for how old

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<v Speaker 2>are you? Know, thirty five or six? Yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 2>married a couple years ago, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was thirty nine when I got married, and everybody back

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<v Speaker 1>home was like, you're broken or gay because you're not married.

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<v Speaker 1>Is everybody where I was from was you got married

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<v Speaker 1>at nineteen twenty?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, everybody my parents and yeah, they were

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<v Speaker 1>convinced the thing that I was off, like intellectually or

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<v Speaker 1>that I just they were like, it's okay if you're gay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm like gay, and if I was, I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've been called a lot of things. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm thirty nine and you're thirty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that now it's probably at least everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that knows me personally has seen what my lifestyle is

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<v Speaker 3>like in the sense of how much I'm gone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have regular relationships with my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about it at home?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they like Riley, well, you know, well you're not

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<v Speaker 1>married because at home they don't see probably what your

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<v Speaker 1>travel like.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom didn't see my travel life was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, My mom has my calendar. Oh yeah, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom has been really great about that. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe early on, I'm sure she had a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of that and was worried about me, you know, finding

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<v Speaker 3>somebody whatever. But now I think she just knows that

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<v Speaker 3>this is such a timely point in my career. I've

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<v Speaker 3>obviously been very blessed and I have accomplished things I

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<v Speaker 3>never thought I would.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's also a lot of opportunity that comes with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just kind of had in my head when

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to sign a record deal to just

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<v Speaker 3>put my nose down and grind it out and do

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<v Speaker 3>everything they asked me to do anything I could for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years, which that's stretched into five now.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, I think they get that, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot of pressure. I think that my lifestyle

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have to change where I go from

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<v Speaker 3>playing you know, one hundred and twenty shows a year

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<v Speaker 3>to sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's going to make that happen? Though? Oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's what's a fact?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question, because I because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as you well know, it's up to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I could turn down anything I want to, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I hope it's just something clicks and

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<v Speaker 3>we get to a place where I can say, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the budget for the year, this is how many

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<v Speaker 3>shows we can go do it. I'm happy with making

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<v Speaker 3>this much and this is the career I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>have from this. And maybe that's from you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of opportunities not being available that are right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's a probably one of the more

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<v Speaker 3>scary things about it is knowing that with this type

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<v Speaker 3>of travel schedule and lifestyle, I don't really have much

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<v Speaker 3>chance of beating somebody, and how much things are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to slow down for me to get to that place.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also a momentum based industry very much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a battle to stay relevant right probably now

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<v Speaker 3>more than ever because of all the avenues of new

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<v Speaker 3>music and a new artist discovery or whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like if you let up by letting

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<v Speaker 1>something else in, regardless of what it is, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go away for three months to hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you want to have a serious relationship, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, if I have dedicated this is the

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<v Speaker 1>struggle that I went through. If I dedicate my time

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<v Speaker 1>to this, then this is going to suffer. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was never going to get married. Just I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know what, I'm never gonna have time

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<v Speaker 1>for it because I also I feel like I am

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<v Speaker 1>I have a huge imposter syndrome, and like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep going, I'm never going to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>this level. And then I met my wife and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like she kind of bost me out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the first time ever, I let her because

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy that I met a person that as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I was annoyed by it, I was more

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed by the fact that maybe she wouldn't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the only time and I dated. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was you know, I had my move

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville. Holy crap, I never got girls, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got all the girls at once that it was so

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild, and then it was this is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, I'm never getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I met my wife and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to slow down. But worse than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like lose her. That's whomever I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know, you're You're you never married, right, never

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<v Speaker 1>married anything. That's what we because you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>ever go. I only want to make this much money

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just uh, you know, it's a really funny

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<v Speaker 3>thing to say, probably to my buddies back home from

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<v Speaker 3>now side looking in, because they're like, oh, man, rather

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<v Speaker 3>meets but where do you really meet a girl at?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Where do you get to

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<v Speaker 2>invest time in a human exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And and you know social media is probably whereas some

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<v Speaker 3>people would use that to meet people, it's the opposite

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<v Speaker 3>for me because how do you really use that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with what I do for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's an interesting thing. Like I said, I've uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Used it, but it wasn't for good Yeah, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>used it, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't for meeting somebody to marry, right, It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>long term investing. The girls I've met on Instagram probably

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<v Speaker 3>watched wrestling, and mom probably let them watch wrestling, so

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<v Speaker 3>it would never work, or they were wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I've I've had a couple of years where

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<v Speaker 3>we've said, man, let's take off November and and and

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<v Speaker 3>let me you know, go hunt just kind of disconnect

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<v Speaker 3>and write whatever, and we've never taken one off, so

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<v Speaker 3>it'll it'll it'll be that. I think that I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>guaranteed myself a career that's more than I've ever thought

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<v Speaker 3>I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, there's just so much opportunity,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the only thing that makes me nervous

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<v Speaker 3>about my career is not making the absolute most of it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not getting every opportunity that I can.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're never gonna get every opportunity can You're never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get to every opportunity I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you if you go to therapy

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but god dango, this was I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know it's probably what this is therapy because I go

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<v Speaker 1>to like have we go to a couple's counselor and

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<v Speaker 1>I go to my own and he was like, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that, and I'm a little older than you,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would be like, if I don't take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of everything, and he's like, you'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Never be able to take advantage of everything. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're running on a hamster wheel that you can

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<v Speaker 1>never get to go fast enough to actually matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that it's a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 3>overthinking type thing. I will say, I'm mindful that there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that I feel like I'm gonna miss if that

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense, Like if my career panned out right now

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<v Speaker 3>and it is what it is, I can go play

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<v Speaker 3>shows for the next fifteen years. I would still be

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<v Speaker 3>very excited about that. So it's not like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be leaving something on the table. I just know there's

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity right now. And it's almost like, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 3>were the same way. When I'm sitting around, I'm thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 3>what could I be doing nothing? That's pretty tough to

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<v Speaker 3>explain to a girl. Let's say you've gone on a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days with and she wants to know why

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<v Speaker 3>you have a day off and you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>right or you want to go do this or that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And for me it was hunting. That was

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<v Speaker 3>a really hard thing to explain, Like why would you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go sit in the woods by yourself after

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<v Speaker 3>being on the road for eighty days this year and

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't found the answer to that?

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<v Speaker 5>Be kind, good, kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Cast up man, little food for your So life ain't

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's pretty bad, Hey, it's pretty beautiful man life

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<v Speaker 6>a little more exciting because said he can't cut your

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<v Speaker 6>kicking up with Full Thing with Amy Brown.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, it's Amy Brown from four Things with Amy Brown,

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<v Speaker 7>and here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>The first thing that we're going to do here is

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<v Speaker 7>messing up at work and like how to not let

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<v Speaker 7>it completely get you down. Because I just messed up

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<v Speaker 7>big time on the podcast. I thought it was just

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<v Speaker 7>going to be between me and Morgan Massingale, who was

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<v Speaker 7>my guest, and it was actually for the fifth Thing

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<v Speaker 7>earlier this week. She ended up not being my guest.

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<v Speaker 7>If you listened to that, you didn't hear her because well,

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<v Speaker 7>we recorded it in Bobby's office, which is where we

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<v Speaker 7>are right now, and she shared a lot about her

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<v Speaker 7>dating life. Well, I did not have her microphone up

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<v Speaker 7>and so the audio is just me, so that's not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna work. So I thought, well, this is just between

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<v Speaker 7>me and Houston, my producer, and Morgan. I informed her

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<v Speaker 7>and she was like, oh good, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>I overshared, so maybe this is a good thing. So

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<v Speaker 7>Lunchbox found out about it, and then he brought it

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<v Speaker 7>to the Bobby Bone Show yesterday. As a bonehead story

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<v Speaker 7>of the day, and I thought, okay, well now everybody

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<v Speaker 7>knows and I feel as though I am a professional

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<v Speaker 7>in this field. I've been a radio for almost eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 7>I should know what I'm doing. I should check levels

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<v Speaker 7>and volumes, and sometimes you make a rookie mistake. But

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<v Speaker 7>then when they brought up the bonehead story of the

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<v Speaker 7>day and that I was a bonehead for doing that,

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<v Speaker 7>they brought up a couple of other times where I

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<v Speaker 7>have messed up on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll say, even the best of the best make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, so I would love for you to share a time.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe you've messed up at work, and then if anybody

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<v Speaker 7>else has messed up at work, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 7>through a guide to help you move forward after your

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<v Speaker 7>mess up. And maybe you don't mess up at work.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe you've messed up in a friendship or a relationship

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<v Speaker 7>or something else. But it's looping in your head like

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<v Speaker 7>you're a failure. What's wrong with you? You're an idiot. You're

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<v Speaker 7>so stupid, that's my narrative. Yeah, how do you even

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<v Speaker 7>have this job? So do you have any mess ups

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<v Speaker 7>at work? Are you perfect?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean I feel like, I mess up every day,

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<v Speaker 8>and for me, the thing that has always helped and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, as I get a little more wise each

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<v Speaker 8>year that passes is like identifying it and just owning

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<v Speaker 8>it really early, because if I let it fester, then

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<v Speaker 8>I go down that rabbit hole that you were just

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<v Speaker 8>talking about. But I would say my typical mess up

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<v Speaker 8>where I'm catching myself is I say what I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 8>out a little too abruptly, well just matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 8>when I'm like, I need to like filter that a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit in the trust circle because they might receive

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<v Speaker 8>that is criticism when I'm trying to, you know, get feedback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>you bet so. I mean that's a consistent like, oh crap,

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<v Speaker 8>I messed up.

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<v Speaker 5>In my head.

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<v Speaker 7>This is how you move on after you've messed up

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<v Speaker 7>at work or maybe just messed up in general. I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like this could even apply to parents. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 7>mess up and you may be reacting away with your

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<v Speaker 7>kids you didn't want to or you're not proud of,

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<v Speaker 7>and so this could I think apply to that as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Step one, allow yourself to feel awful about it, but

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<v Speaker 9>not for too long. Don't just stuff it down.

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<v Speaker 7>Be like, okay, I can feel bad about this and

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<v Speaker 7>the volume down on the podcast microphone.

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<v Speaker 9>Again, that's not a big deal, is it.

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<v Speaker 7>However, I respect people's time, and Morgan sat here for

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<v Speaker 7>thirty minutes and took time out of her day to

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<v Speaker 7>do that, and so then I felt bad for her

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<v Speaker 7>wasting her time. But then when all of your coworkers,

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<v Speaker 7>who all have their own podcasts, and clearly they checked

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<v Speaker 7>to see of the volumes up, just another little like

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<v Speaker 7>it kind of like whack the mole. Like sometimes you

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<v Speaker 7>get up and then it's like you're not feeling that

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<v Speaker 7>great about yourself anyway, and then boom, you get whacked down.

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<v Speaker 7>You're like, because sometimes I wonder why am I here?

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<v Speaker 7>What am I even doing? And then that sort of solidifies, like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>just whack me down and be like I knew I

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't supposed to be here. But that's not always the

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<v Speaker 7>narrative in my mind.

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<v Speaker 8>But sometimes it can be sharing with.

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<v Speaker 9>You that I have those thoughts.

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<v Speaker 7>Step two, keep things in perspective, which I feel like,

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<v Speaker 7>that's what I just did a little bit, so you

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<v Speaker 7>can walk through that for yourself. Step three, confront your

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<v Speaker 7>war first case scenario and then let it go. Why

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<v Speaker 7>are you giving big eyes to Patrick.

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<v Speaker 8>So we had some conversation yesterday when we were flying

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<v Speaker 8>over that leadership in our company. Sometimes it's my job

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<v Speaker 8>specifically to anticipate kind of the worst and maybe think

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<v Speaker 8>about more of the negative, like what could go wrong

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<v Speaker 8>just in case something doesn't work out. We have kind

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<v Speaker 8>of a quick plan of action, but sometimes in our

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<v Speaker 8>conversation it can come across like I'm pretty negative. And

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<v Speaker 8>so we were just talking through that this morning. I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we talked about it, planning through it. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 8>put that back on the shelf and now we're just

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<v Speaker 8>going to focus on the good and the positive. But

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's something we've talked about a lot, because

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes you know, as the leaders, you have to anticipate

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<v Speaker 8>what could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm glad you bring that up, because that's actually

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<v Speaker 7>Step four, create a game plan for next time. And

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<v Speaker 7>my game plan this time was before we sat down

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<v Speaker 7>to record, I went and got my headphones so I

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<v Speaker 7>can make sure we are all good to go. And

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<v Speaker 7>sounds like that's what y'all do at your company. Step

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<v Speaker 7>five apologize if you need to, but don't overdo it.

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<v Speaker 7>I apologize to Morgan. Okay, we're step six, take better

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<v Speaker 7>care of yourself. And I was reading more in the

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<v Speaker 7>article about this, and it was like, if you're taking

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<v Speaker 7>care of yourself, you can be on your A game.

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<v Speaker 7>We should be treating ourselves like professional athletes, like worrying

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<v Speaker 7>about our sleep, our work, our fuel, how we're training,

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<v Speaker 7>all the things. And then you notice more clarity and

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<v Speaker 7>fewer errors in your life if you are training like

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<v Speaker 7>an athlete, which does make me think of how Bobby

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<v Speaker 7>always says he's always training like stay ready, never got

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<v Speaker 7>to get ready.

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<v Speaker 8>You got to have a little pain to have a

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<v Speaker 8>little gain, And I think there's truth in that and

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<v Speaker 8>to what you're saying, I mean, to better yourself. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>you got to go through hard things. But in coming

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<v Speaker 8>out of that, you got to identify because I realize

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<v Speaker 8>not taking care of myself doesn't allow me to show

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<v Speaker 8>up for the people that rely on me, because I

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<v Speaker 8>was just going to a point of exhaustion thinking like

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<v Speaker 8>I got to do what I need to do to

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<v Speaker 8>serve everyone and make sure sure and I'll say that

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<v Speaker 8>like self righteously, but you know the people that rely

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<v Speaker 8>on me that I do what I need to to

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<v Speaker 8>make sure they have what they need and that we're

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<v Speaker 8>having success. But man, it whit me last year. So

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<v Speaker 8>I'm learning, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And I have to learn how to make sure I've

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<v Speaker 7>got content for my listeners. They're showing up, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>serving them in a way with something which I still learned.

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<v Speaker 7>Later in the afternoon, I had no episode and I

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<v Speaker 7>went upstairs when I was at home and I recorded something.

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<v Speaker 7>So something went up and it just wasn't what I

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<v Speaker 7>had spent time with Morgan on and so I still

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<v Speaker 7>felt that it was important. But had I been on

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<v Speaker 7>my A game, who knows, maybe I wouldn't have messed

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<v Speaker 7>up with Morgan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 9>If you've messed up in any way.

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<v Speaker 7>Shape or form, there's your guide to get over it quickly.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh I didn't go back to did I s? Step

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<v Speaker 7>earn back your trust through your actions, not just your words. Boom, No,

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<v Speaker 7>that's step seven. We'll wrap with that one. And I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like I'm already earning back trust. I came in

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<v Speaker 7>with my actions, put my headphones in, check the volume,

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<v Speaker 7>and here we are crushing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it live. Oh the two So loser?

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<v Speaker 10>What up?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody?

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<v Speaker 11>I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports so

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<v Speaker 11>I'll give you the sports facts, my sports opinions, because

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<v Speaker 11>I'm pretty much a sports genius.

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<v Speaker 12>What up, y'all at his scison. I'm from the North.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm in Alpha Male. I live on the West side

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<v Speaker 12>of Nashville with Baser, my wife. We do have a

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<v Speaker 12>white picket fence at the apartment complex. Soon I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 12>have two point five kids, and yes, sadly, I will

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<v Speaker 12>die of a heart attack when I'm seventy two years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a clip from the last podcast. We're gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>a game.

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<v Speaker 11>It's called Good Dad or Bad Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>About me?

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<v Speaker 12>I left my kids in a hot car.

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<v Speaker 11>No, it's not about me. It's about a teacher hooking

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<v Speaker 11>up with a student. Okay, she got arrested for hooking

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<v Speaker 11>up with a high school student. She's a high school teacher, right.

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<v Speaker 11>The only problem is the dad of the student got

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<v Speaker 11>arrested also because he knew about the relationship. Wow, So

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<v Speaker 11>she came over to the house and was like, I

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<v Speaker 11>want to bang your son.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you gonna tell me?

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<v Speaker 12>This was Crime Podcast of the top one hundred podcasts

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<v Speaker 12>right now in the country, the biggest handle, the biggest

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<v Speaker 12>market share is crime Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Over to you.

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<v Speaker 11>So my question is is that a good dad or

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<v Speaker 11>a bad dad?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, originally he knew about it, didn't disclose what he knew,

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<v Speaker 12>then was found out and caught by an unbelievable investigation.

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<v Speaker 11>A Missouri teacher accused us sexually hooking up with a

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<v Speaker 11>teen and the father knew.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 12>Back in the day, you couldn't tell these timelines. But

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<v Speaker 12>now with text messages, you're able to find when the

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<v Speaker 12>dad found out. Back in the day, you could have said, oh,

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<v Speaker 12>the dad just found out after the fact. Now you

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<v Speaker 12>know the dad knew about it for months, and so

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<v Speaker 12>then he gets in trouble too. Because of Apple, text messages,

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<v Speaker 12>the ring camera on your doors, crimes are able to

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<v Speaker 12>go a more in depth than they've ever been able to.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, the reason they got busted is because the sixteen

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<v Speaker 11>year old had scratches on his back from one of

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<v Speaker 11>their sexual encounters, and he showed a picture of his

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<v Speaker 11>scratches to one of his friends, said check out what

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<v Speaker 11>she did to me why we were hooking.

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<v Speaker 12>Up, And the friend told authorities. Yes, damn that friend man,

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<v Speaker 12>first of all, not a friend anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to end their friendship. They're now foes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>A second witness told investigator that the student's father had

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<v Speaker 11>been told by both the teacher and the team about

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<v Speaker 11>the relationship, and the witness claim to authority is that

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<v Speaker 11>the teacher and the alleged victim, you student, lookout why

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<v Speaker 11>they had sex during school?

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<v Speaker 2>That's one step deeper.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean they had someone standing guard outside the door.

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<v Speaker 11>So when someone was coming bang on the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, what subject did she teach?

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<v Speaker 12>And usually, dude, our teachers always tried to act more mature.

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<v Speaker 2>These teachers our kinky.

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<v Speaker 11>The father said he did not stop the relationship because

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<v Speaker 11>he believed they would continue to have the relationship behind

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<v Speaker 11>his back anyway. The father was charged with first degree

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<v Speaker 11>engagement the welfare of a child. So my question, good

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<v Speaker 11>dad or bad dad? Is he being the cool dad? Like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 11>you're hooking up with this hoty ass teacher. Like she

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<v Speaker 11>ain't bad looking, dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely bad dad.

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<v Speaker 12>It was a high school, so maybe she's she's probably

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<v Speaker 12>not that much older than the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's only twenty six. He's sixteen, but.

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<v Speaker 12>He's less than eighteen, so that makes it bad.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I understand why it's illegal, but is he good

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<v Speaker 11>dad or bad dad?

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad dad.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean it wasn't just one time where the dad felt,

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<v Speaker 12>oh man, I'm making a bad decision. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 12>must have been a lot of times where he goes, man,

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<v Speaker 12>should I really can let this continue going.

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<v Speaker 11>On because I'm thinking the dad's like, man, this is

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<v Speaker 11>so cool, my teacher. My sixteen year old's hooking up

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<v Speaker 11>with a hottie. And maybe the dad's thinking maybe one

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<v Speaker 11>day I'll get to.

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<v Speaker 12>Hook up with the hotty dude. No, not that or pops. Hey, kids, happy,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm happy he's getting good grades.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, there's a dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just looks like DGAF.

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<v Speaker 11>Doesn't give a damn right. I mean I thought that

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<v Speaker 11>was a crazy story that he just let her.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean I guess you go bad dad,

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<v Speaker 2>bad dad at one time occurrence.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, man, take this to your grave. Don't ever tell

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<v Speaker 12>anybody about it. I'll hold your secret. But if he continues,

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<v Speaker 12>you're gonna get found out. You can do anything for

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<v Speaker 12>one time. Once you get to like ten times, twenty times,

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<v Speaker 12>thirty times, that's when you get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, it's Mike d And This week on Movie Mike's

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<v Speaker 4>Movie Podcast. I got to talk to the director of Wonka,

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<v Speaker 4>came out last year with Timothy shallow May. I love

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<v Speaker 4>this movie, so it was super excited to get to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to him about the process of making that movie,

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<v Speaker 4>about casting Timothy shallow May, and I also got to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to Kayla Lane, who plays Noodle in the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe you still haven't seen the new Wonka, But

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<v Speaker 4>if you're like me and are a big fan of

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<v Speaker 4>the original movie, I think you'll enjoy this interview. Be

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<v Speaker 4>sure to check out this week's episode to hear it

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<v Speaker 4>in its entirety. But right now, here's my interview with

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<v Speaker 4>Paul King, the director of Wonka.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you, Paul, I'm really good.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am great, good to get to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 13>The original Willey Wonka is one of my top ten

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<v Speaker 13>favorite movies of all time, so I hold it very

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<v Speaker 13>precious and after seeing Wonka, I completely loved it and

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<v Speaker 13>I'd have to imagine it was such a hard thing

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<v Speaker 13>to do. And the thing I want to start with

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<v Speaker 13>first is I love the way Timothy shallow May portrayed Wonka.

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<v Speaker 13>Did you have that vision first before he was cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Or was he cast and then that vision and it

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<v Speaker 2>came to life.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's a really good question. First of all, thank you.

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<v Speaker 14>That means a huge amount to me, because the original

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<v Speaker 14>Willy Wonker is is right up there for me too,

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<v Speaker 14>and it's a daunting experience to kind of walk in

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<v Speaker 14>those footsteps. I think when I started working on the movie,

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<v Speaker 14>i'd been fortunate enough to meet Timothy in that kind

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<v Speaker 14>of year where he did call me by your name

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<v Speaker 14>and Lady Burden knew what a wonderful actor he was,

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<v Speaker 14>and I really wanted to write something for him, and

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<v Speaker 14>so pretty much from the second David Haym has suggested

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<v Speaker 14>a young Willy Wonker film to me, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 14>that could be Timothy shaller Mate. So there's obviously never

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<v Speaker 14>a guarantee that you're going to get the actor that

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<v Speaker 14>you want, but in my head I sort of went, well,

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<v Speaker 14>him or someone like him, I don't know who there

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<v Speaker 14>is like him would be absolutely wonderful in this world

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<v Speaker 14>because he feels so sort of mercurial, but he's also

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<v Speaker 14>emotionally grounded and slightly unknowable, and he has that whole

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<v Speaker 14>sort of range, and I felt that he could feel

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<v Speaker 14>like a young a younger, Willie want Coral, you know

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<v Speaker 14>Gene Marder twenty years before the events of that movie.

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<v Speaker 14>Like it felt like there's a sort of kinshit there somehow,

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<v Speaker 14>but without doing an impression. And you know, once we'd

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<v Speaker 14>written the script and sort of sent it to him,

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<v Speaker 14>it's a nerve wracking moment because you sort of go,

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<v Speaker 14>if it's not you, I really don't know who it

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<v Speaker 14>could have been.

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<v Speaker 5>And I thank my lucky stars.

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<v Speaker 13>He said, yes, you mentioned Gen Wilder there, And I

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<v Speaker 13>got to imagine when you're you know, had this vision

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<v Speaker 13>of this movie in your head, there's all these things

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<v Speaker 13>you want to pull from the original. Was there anything

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<v Speaker 13>that you didn't get to put into this movie that

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<v Speaker 13>you wanted you from the original? Either it was too expensive,

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<v Speaker 13>or it just didn't work, or it just didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 14>There was one bit we tried to do the forward

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<v Speaker 14>role and the pop up thing, and it felt it

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<v Speaker 14>just felt a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little shoehorned into the moment.

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<v Speaker 14>It was felt like kind of an Easter egg for

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<v Speaker 14>the sake of an Easter egg. And and we didn't

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<v Speaker 14>do it in the end because it felt like it

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<v Speaker 14>was it was there for fans rather than because it

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<v Speaker 14>didn't serve the story, so I think. But what was

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<v Speaker 14>so funny was how much kind of went in and

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<v Speaker 14>some of it where it went in, and I'd kind

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<v Speaker 14>of forgotten where it had come from. But you know,

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<v Speaker 14>obviously I sort of imbibed the original so much that

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<v Speaker 14>it was sort of like would come out and you

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<v Speaker 14>sort of go just little bits of choreography and little gestures,

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<v Speaker 14>and we always kind of were aware of it on set,

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<v Speaker 14>where you go, oh, you could do the cane thing,

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<v Speaker 14>and you could do the step thing, and and this

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<v Speaker 14>is the coin and the storm draining, and I think

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<v Speaker 14>some of the kind of building blocks. It was kind

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<v Speaker 14>of really looking at that movie and the original book

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<v Speaker 14>and go, here's the kind of this is like the

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<v Speaker 14>playground you're in now, now go play with the toys.

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<v Speaker 13>I think my favorite shot out of the entire movie,

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<v Speaker 13>Like I'm just a stickler for cinematography, and when I

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<v Speaker 13>see a great shot, I just make a note of it.

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<v Speaker 13>The one shot I made a note of it's whenever

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<v Speaker 13>there's that great silhowere to Timothy Shell, May you really

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<v Speaker 13>just see like the shadows on his face and the

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<v Speaker 13>outline of the hair, how much time goes into just

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<v Speaker 13>getting there.

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<v Speaker 5>One shot probably too much for that shot that was.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, I love that shot so much, but it

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<v Speaker 14>was it was it was actually a find on the

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<v Speaker 14>quite near like on the day, I think that we

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<v Speaker 14>had the shot of him from behind with the behind

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<v Speaker 14>the doors, like when he opens the door and walks out,

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<v Speaker 14>and that was going to be our hero shot, and

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<v Speaker 14>we were setting it and went, oh, there's a lovely

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<v Speaker 14>there's a found that there was this lovely profile and

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<v Speaker 14>chunking through my incredible cinematographer.

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<v Speaker 5>We then went, this is a lovely angle.

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<v Speaker 14>But we kind of wanted to get both and we

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<v Speaker 14>were sort of trying to get it, and then we were, Okay,

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<v Speaker 14>we're gonna have to stop everything and get this silhouette

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<v Speaker 14>perfect because it could be the.

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<v Speaker 5>Shots of the movie.

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<v Speaker 14>And I do remember we filmed it and it was

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<v Speaker 14>like we sort of didn't one where he goes here

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<v Speaker 14>we go Mama, and I was like, that's definitely how

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<v Speaker 14>the treasure that's going to start.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there it is.

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<v Speaker 13>The thing about this movie is that it feels oddly

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<v Speaker 13>nostalgic for me. And I was born in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 13>so even the original came out was before my time,

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<v Speaker 13>but there are so many different generations of Willie Wanka fan.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you have the people who discovered it maybe in

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<v Speaker 13>the two thousands, the people who love the original, and

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<v Speaker 13>then it's a family movie at the same time. How

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<v Speaker 13>do you watch that line of making a movie that's

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<v Speaker 13>appealing to kids but also appealing to the adults who

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<v Speaker 13>are just lifelong fans.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's it's It's funny how that it is interesting

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<v Speaker 14>because it's definitely I think most kind of like known

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<v Speaker 14>characters and known through one iteration, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 14>sort of go iron Man, say you go, most people

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<v Speaker 14>will have come to it through the Robert Downey junior

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<v Speaker 14>iron Man, you know, or you sort of go, there

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<v Speaker 14>will be some comic book fans, but you sort of go,

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<v Speaker 14>there's one kind of hero iteration. Willi Wanka really isn't

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<v Speaker 14>like that, as you say, because there's the book, which

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<v Speaker 14>has an army of fans around the world, is one

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<v Speaker 14>of the best selling childrens book of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>You got two absolutely beloved movies.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's it's really tricky to kind of to to

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<v Speaker 14>sort of walk that line. And I guess what I

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<v Speaker 14>realized early on was you sort of have to your

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<v Speaker 14>pick your hero references, and for me, it was like

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<v Speaker 14>the book first and foremost because that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 14>the mothership, and I didn't want to do anything that

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<v Speaker 14>wouldn't kind of sit comfortably with that.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the the g Model movies.

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<v Speaker 14>So in my DNA, I mean, I was born in

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<v Speaker 14>the seven, but I really grew up with that movie

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<v Speaker 14>as my Willy Wonka so and there were so many

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<v Speaker 14>iconic choices they made that I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 14>honor in terms of like balancing kids and grown ups.

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<v Speaker 14>I sort of, for me my favorite family movies and

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<v Speaker 14>my favorite movies probably in general, movies that can can

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<v Speaker 14>appeal to everyone. And I never really try and go,

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<v Speaker 14>here's a bit for the kids and here's a bit

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<v Speaker 14>for the grown ups. Just try and make something that's

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<v Speaker 14>as exciting and fun for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 14>It's kind of I think my co writers, Simon and

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<v Speaker 14>I we're trying to make each other laugh and find

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<v Speaker 14>things that we find emotional or funny or silly or

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<v Speaker 14>eccentric or you know, touching, and if it works, pray

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<v Speaker 14>that there are enough people out there with our sense

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<v Speaker 14>of humor and sentiment.

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<v Speaker 15>Carne, she's a queen and talking so.

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<v Speaker 2>She's getting really not afraid to face episode, so just

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<v Speaker 2>let it flow.

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<v Speaker 13>No one can do we quiet car Line is sounding Caroline.

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<v Speaker 16>Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby from Get Real with Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 16>And here is a clip from this week's episode. All right,

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<v Speaker 16>I'm so excited to be back with another bonus episode

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<v Speaker 16>of Call Caroline, where you the listener leaves your burning questions.

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<v Speaker 16>I have Sarah Beth Tait joining me. And also, just

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<v Speaker 16>so you know, you can call and leave a message.

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<v Speaker 16>Go to the link of this podcast and then hit

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<v Speaker 16>the show notes and there's a link to leave a

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<v Speaker 16>message because I know you got a burning question. So

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<v Speaker 16>are you ready, Sarah Bath? We had a great interview

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<v Speaker 16>on Monday. I think I'm ready, and so now let's

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<v Speaker 16>see what people got to say.

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<v Speaker 17>Hi, Caroline and Sarah Beeth. I was wondering if the

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<v Speaker 17>two of you could chat a little bit about work

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<v Speaker 17>life balance for moms. I think that there are a

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<v Speaker 17>lot of demands on moms these days to show up

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<v Speaker 17>for their kids and their families, but also be all

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<v Speaker 17>over their career and showing up for that as well.

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<v Speaker 17>How do the two of you overcome some of those obstacles.

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<v Speaker 17>How do you find the balance between your personal life

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<v Speaker 17>and your work life.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a good question. You're crushing the game when that's

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<v Speaker 10>how you go. No, you go no, no no.

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<v Speaker 15>I I hear you on the pressure to.

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<v Speaker 18>Like I said, I mean, I fully believe that we

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<v Speaker 18>can do all the things that we're passionate about, and

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<v Speaker 18>being a mom doesn't mean that we can't do the

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<v Speaker 18>other things.

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<v Speaker 15>But I also do.

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<v Speaker 18>Feel like we put a lot of pressure as moms

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<v Speaker 18>to you know, there's the mom guilt either way. So

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<v Speaker 18>there's the mom guilt if you're staying home, there's the

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<v Speaker 18>mom guilt if you're gone. We're kind of damned if

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<v Speaker 18>we do damned if we don't, honestly, and we do

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<v Speaker 18>that to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 15>But I think the balance for me has been in.

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<v Speaker 18>Always doing, always doing what I feel like is right

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<v Speaker 18>for Aila, and making sure that she's fully taken care

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<v Speaker 18>of and fully has me or Colby or some you know,

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<v Speaker 18>always having what she needs and that she's taken care of.

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<v Speaker 18>And then letting myself, you know, not putting that pressure

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<v Speaker 18>on myself, and just you know, being present the days

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<v Speaker 18>that I'm gone, being present in that being extra present

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<v Speaker 18>the days that I'm home, Yeah, and just yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 18>to get by honestly week to week.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I know, I do feel you in that because

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<v Speaker 16>it was like I feel like my like my mom's generation.

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<v Speaker 10>I've talked to my mom about this before.

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<v Speaker 16>Her generation was the first generation where they were like

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<v Speaker 16>coming out of the stay at home, leave it to beaver,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, where like you're you really aren't a career woman.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, you know, it's hard to have a job. You're

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<v Speaker 10>supposed to raise a family and stay at home and

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<v Speaker 10>all that.

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<v Speaker 16>And then like I feel like my mom's generation kind

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<v Speaker 16>of like started finding their way a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 16>then there was like this next generation, which would be

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<v Speaker 16>kind of like mine, where it's like you.

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<v Speaker 10>Got to be a boss.

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<v Speaker 16>You gotta be a you know, you gotta girl match

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<v Speaker 16>the man, the girl boss, Like you got to prove

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<v Speaker 16>that you can hang in there. And then it's like

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<v Speaker 16>I feel like Taylor Swift is doing a great example

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<v Speaker 16>of showing us this.

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<v Speaker 10>It's like you want to have a relationship and have

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<v Speaker 10>that part of your life and that feminine part of your.

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<v Speaker 16>Life as well as being able to carry this big career.

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<v Speaker 16>And it's like you want to be able to be both,

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<v Speaker 16>you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't feel like I think the pressure comes when

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<v Speaker 18>we feel like we have to be perfect at all

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<v Speaker 18>of those things and do it all at the same time,

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<v Speaker 18>and that one takes away from the other, because that's

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<v Speaker 18>where like the guilt starts creeping in of like oh,

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<v Speaker 18>oh my gosh, like you know, what if I'm being

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<v Speaker 18>a bad mom today because I'm doing this, or what

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<v Speaker 18>if you know what if today I'm missing out on

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<v Speaker 18>being the girl boss that I should be because I'm

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<v Speaker 18>home with my daughter and it's like let it for me,

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<v Speaker 18>letting go of all the labels of all of that

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<v Speaker 18>and just really since she was born, week to week,

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<v Speaker 18>day by day, it's literally like, Okay, here's the schedule

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<v Speaker 18>for this week. It's always different in this crazy industry,

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<v Speaker 18>and it's like doing the things that matter both at

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<v Speaker 18>home and in work, and you know, figuring that out

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<v Speaker 18>with your partner and trying to just truly.

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<v Speaker 15>Do what feels right for that week.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, and then not worrying about like the next week

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<v Speaker 18>and the week after that.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>And like we said earlier, I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 16>said this on the podcast or just talked about it.

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<v Speaker 16>But you're bandwidth, like you when you do become a mom,

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<v Speaker 16>like you only have bandwidth for stuff that truly matters.

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<v Speaker 16>Because it's like I could just be home doing nothing,

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<v Speaker 16>but if I'm with Sunny, that is very important work,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, because you're with your child and being present, yes,

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<v Speaker 16>and not being distracted.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes.

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<v Speaker 15>And I think you know that too.

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<v Speaker 18>Is like, Okay, So if I spend the day playing

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<v Speaker 18>with Jembo size legos and singing Almo songs all day,

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<v Speaker 18>that is important work to me.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, that is worth my time.

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<v Speaker 10>It's worth all your time.

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<v Speaker 18>And I'm not going to spend that night scrolling on

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<v Speaker 18>Instagram feeling like I missed out on something because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 16>You're present with your daughter, yes, showing her that you

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<v Speaker 16>show up for her and that she's the only thing

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<v Speaker 16>that matters and that she has your full focus.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. And it's just picking.

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<v Speaker 16>It's like making choices, like you don't do everything that

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<v Speaker 16>you did before for your career.

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<v Speaker 10>Probably it's a lot more selective.

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<v Speaker 18>And then and then other days, I'm leaving her with

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<v Speaker 18>someone that I know and trust and love, and that

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<v Speaker 18>person is present with her and taking care of her,

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<v Speaker 18>and she knows that MoMA's coming home, and she knows

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<v Speaker 18>that she's going to have a fun and I am

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<v Speaker 18>doing something that matters. It is important to me that day,

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<v Speaker 18>and I'm not going to feel guilty right doing that, right.

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<v Speaker 10>I love that. Just being super intentional.

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<v Speaker 16>I feel like that's really the best way to balance it,

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<v Speaker 16>being super intentional, intentional prioritizing what really matters, how much

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<v Speaker 16>time you need, Like I know how much time I

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<v Speaker 16>need to be with Sunny to make sure to fill

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<v Speaker 16>my personal cup and her cup.

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<v Speaker 10>Like if we don't have enough time.

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<v Speaker 16>Like she acts different, She's more emotional, Like she even

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<v Speaker 16>like developed stomach aches when like I was sending her

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<v Speaker 16>to school a little longer, she started developing stomach aches

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<v Speaker 16>of like anxiety. And I'm like, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 16>just tell when they just need to be with you more.

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<v Speaker 16>And I want to be with her all the time.

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<v Speaker 16>But it's like you also have to prioritize the gift

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<v Speaker 16>and your passion, of your talent and your job.

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<v Speaker 10>So I think, yeah, thanks super intentional.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, and like you just said, I think you I

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<v Speaker 18>think you can feel if your balance is off too,

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<v Speaker 18>and and feeling we have definitely had I mean there

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<v Speaker 18>are phases. I think it's just an ebb and a flow.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, you go through phases where you're like, this,

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<v Speaker 18>you got to figure something out here because this balance

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<v Speaker 18>is off and this is not how we want this

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<v Speaker 18>to feel. And I think in those moments you just

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<v Speaker 18>have to recalibrate and figure out what works and what doesn't.

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<v Speaker 18>But there is no script for this, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 10>Like you, oh my gosh, constant pivoting all the time. Literally,

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<v Speaker 10>it's like juggling bananas.

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<v Speaker 15>I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 10>Half the time ever, never any idea.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm like, how did we get through this week? I

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<v Speaker 15>don't know, we just did. Yeah, it's just like a hey,

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<v Speaker 15>it's a blur.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>But I do feel like working Mama is like it

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<v Speaker 16>is definitely it's a constant, Like like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 16>a day to day, constant thing, and you just have

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<v Speaker 16>to be intentional and you're not always gonna get it right.

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<v Speaker 12>You know.

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<v Speaker 16>Sometimes you're going to give more time to work. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 16>you're going to you know, give more time, and you're

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<v Speaker 16>gonna not give your work what you need, you know.

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<v Speaker 16>And it's just like you said, recalibrating being able to

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<v Speaker 16>just like change it all the time.

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