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Speaker 1: put the a g M battery in, there is not

428
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: going to perform as well because the older technology can't

429
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 1: keep up with the electrical demands and the fast recharge

430
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: that the AGM battery can. So performance is going to

431
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: suffer if you don't put the the right battery in.

432
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: But it's okay to take a regular flooded battery car

433
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: something older and put an a g M in it.

434
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: That's safe, and that's actually recommended because the electronics just

435
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: keep increasing every year. Yeah, that's an upgrade, and I

436
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: think that's recommended, especially if somebody wants to add something

437
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: to the vehicle that's not already there, then you're gonna

438
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: need a better battery, stereo system or all. You know,

439
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: my gosh, there's so much electronics you can put into

440
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: a car today. Um that yeah, it's it would it's

441
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: an upgrade. As you said, Uh, car owners that don't

442
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: drive the cars very often, you know, let's face it,

443
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: they're out there. Um you know, And I get this

444
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: question a lot. What do you think about battery maintainer units?

445
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: Are they safe? Do they help keep the car's battery

446
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: charged or do you really just need to drive the

447
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: car more? Yeah, well a matter A modern battery maintainer

448
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: is safe. You know, they're electronics sometimes their computer controls.

449
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: So get one made in the last few years and

450
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: then you can put them on everything, uh, cars, r VS, marine,

451
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: off road, you know, vehicles. They're going to sit there

452
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: for a while, and what will happen is that the

453
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: battery gets pained every once in a while with these maintainers,

454
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: and it gets charged when it needs it, and it

455
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get charge when it doesn't need it. So it's

456
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: really really safe. For today's vehicle batteries. Good enough where

457
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: batteries you know, your batteries Johnson Controls and I people

458
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: ask me this all the time. They hear me talking

459
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: about A g M batteries and Johnson Controls. You know,

460
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: where are they used? Where they sold in the industry? Well,

461
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: Johnson Controls provides batteries for other people, like the majority

462
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: of the o EM's like four GM, Hundai, BMW, Jaguars

463
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: just to name a few. And also the heavy duty

464
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: market like Navis Star and in club cars. So you

465
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: could go to those dealerships and get uh j C

466
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I battery, but but it doesn't say j C I

467
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: on It's got label on it. And we also private

468
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: label batteries for the aftermarket too, for a variety of

469
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: retailers like you know, Auto Zone, Advanced out of Parts,

470
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: O'Reilly's people like that. Where do you make your batteries?

471
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot. Well, actually, we

472
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: have fifty manufacturing recycling distribution centers around the world globally,

473
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: about seventeen of them are here in the United States.

474
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: Then they're strategically located, you know, for shipping considerations and

475
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, right, so you know, chances are

476
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: you're getting an American made battery, at least a quality

477
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: controlled battery from Johnson Controls whatever you're buying. Yeah, and

478
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: that reason we have so many places you know, you

479
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: want to make up where you sell them because they

480
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: aren't things you're heavy, Yeah, shipping them all over the place,

481
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: and the shipping yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Absolutely Well,

482
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: thanks for being honest with us about that, Jim. Last

483
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: question and then we're gonna go real quick. So you

484
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: know you read about recycling in the environment, right, is

485
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: it true that batteries are really the number one recycled

486
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: product in the industry? And isn't it a problem now

487
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: that a lot of batteries aren't you know? And if

488
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: you're a car owner and you install your own battery,

489
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: you know, how important is it for them to recycle

490
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: and and and so long because they've got there there

491
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: is responsible for the environment? Is the guy fixing the

492
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: car on a regular basis? Yeah, let me shoot some

493
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: statistics at to that. I know. Number one, you're correct,

494
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: it is the number one recycled product in the industry,

495
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: and of a battery can be recycled. Um, So here's

496
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: the thing, Um, batteries are recycled at about rate. That

497
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: means that of all the battery we sell we get,

498
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: we get back as course, so we can recycle them.

499
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: And those two of batteries that are not being recycled,

500
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: but that's about nine million batteries go away. So yeah,

501
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: we we want people to recycle, We want those back.

502
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: You know what, We recycle about eight thousand batteries every

503
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: hour of every day globally, eight thousand every hour day. Wow, staggering. Yeah, yeah,

504
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy, indeed it is. Yeah, and I'm sure it's

505
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: only going to go up in time, right And you

506
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: know what, if you want to learn about recycling for

507
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: your your your listeners, it's recycling my battery dot com.

508
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: That's a great website. Recycling my battery dot com is

509
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: a really good place to start. Of course, the battery

510
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: Shop that's got some recycling videos in it too that

511
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: you can watch and learn more about it. Recycling my

512
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: battery dot Com and closing out today, Jim. So if

513
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: the listeners want to go see your smiling face and

514
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: learn more about batteries, the YouTube channel again is where

515
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: it sits on YouTube, and just go go to YouTube

516
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: and search for the battery shop. Okay, and maybe put

517
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Jim Beats in there and look look for the one

518
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and only so yeah, you could do you are the

519
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: u r L is actually um you know YouTube dot

520
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: com slash the battery shop j c I that's the

521
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: actual link. Good deal, all right, Hey Jim, thanks for

522
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: taking the time today. We appreciate and thanks for making

523
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: us all smarter on batteries now we try. And thanks

524
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: for thanks for having me. Now. You're very welcome, so

525
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: you do a great job. I'm running any in the

526
00:27:52,560 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: car doctor, We'll be back right after this. Welcome mag

527
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: whyn't name in the car doctor here? Eight five five

528
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: five zero zero. Let's go to our western most affiliate

529
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: and actually don't know. I guess there further west. There's

530
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: there's further west than that, but there's a lot of

531
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: water between him and the rest of the world. Walter

532
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: in Maui, Hawaii, Walter, welcome, sir. How are you today?

533
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: Good morning, our afternoon for you. How are you doing Ryn,

534
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. So what's cut right

535
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: to the I cut right to the chase here. Uh.

536
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: A lot of times I listened to this stuff on

537
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: YouTube and the web just for my education on different

538
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: car stuff. And I was listening a guy the other

539
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: day who was an auto expert of some sort according

540
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: to him anyway, uh, and he said that if you

541
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: unplugged the math sensor uh and the car keeps running,

542
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: the censor needs to be replaced. And it just didn't

543
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: ring right to me. So I thought I'd run that

544
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: by you, both them, whether to believe this guy or

545
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: whether this information was not you know, Walter, it's a

546
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: case by case basis. There are some toyotas that if

547
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: you're having a running issue with the vehicle. UM, I've

548
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: had some toyotas where, uh, they don't start an older,

549
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: older stuff. You know, it'll crank, find it just won't start,

550
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: and it'll flutter and start and it'll you'll feather it.

551
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's running out of fuel. You unplug

552
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: the mass airflow center, the car fires right up because

553
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the computer then substitutes a guess, a known value, and

554
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: you know it's it's substituting values of mass airflow readings

555
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: based on other readings stored in its history. It knows

556
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: when the throttle position center was this, when the cooling

557
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: temperature was that. When you know engine load was this

558
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: that it says, okay, the mass airflow is putting out that,

559
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: so it makes up a calculated value. But that doesn't

560
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: work on it. So to say it as a blanket

561
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: statement doesn't work. All right, it's there's no there's no well,

562
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: do this on every car, and it's gonna always it's

563
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: always gonna be there. Now, if he's saying that, and

564
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: the way you're explaining it to me, think about it.

565
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: You said, if you unplug the mass airflow and the

566
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: car continues to run, good, it's a bad mass airflow.

567
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: What if the car's got calculated backup capability. What if

568
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: the Toyota I'm talking about was running well, you walked

569
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: up to it and you've got a A A, I

570
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: don't know, poor fuel economy issue, You unplug the mass airflow,

571
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: the car continues to run. Would you condemn the mass

572
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: airflow by his standard? You would right by by what

573
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: he said, Yes, you would right. To me, that doesn't

574
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: seem correct. No, I don't. I don't believe it's right. Well,

575
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it kind of comes back to let's

576
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: test it. You know, the old expression used to be

577
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: test not guests. And you know one of the easiest

578
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: things to do if you if you suspect a bad

579
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor, all right, there's a couple of things

580
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: you can do. You can do a visual inspection. If

581
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: it's an older car and it's been sitting, if you

582
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: have access to it, take the mass airflow off. Look inside.

583
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: You'll see a large bore and generally usually a smaller

584
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: bore with maybe one or two or three depending upon

585
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: the manufacturer. What appears to be a resistor wire hanging

586
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: out in the airstream. That's that's the thurmb mimister, that's

587
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: the resistor, depending upon who who we're talking about. That's

588
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: how it's it's calculating across that um. It's actually, if

589
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you want the technical explanation, I haven't talked about this

590
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: since college, but it's the wheat Stone bridge. The wheat

591
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: Stone Bridge was a calculation of three resistors in a

592
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: parallel series circuit, and they calculated air temperature across the

593
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: fourth and they decided how much current was going to

594
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: be applied across the fourth fire remember this right from

595
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: forty three years ago. To determine it took this much

596
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: current to make this much temperature to do this, so

597
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: they said, based on that, it must be this draw

598
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: on the circuit and that's how it creates it knows, hey,

599
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: this is the amount of air coming across it. Something

600
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: along those lines. I'm a little fuzzy here, Walter. It's

601
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: been a while since I talked about the wheat Stone Bridge.

602
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: My point is, you can do a visual. Does it

603
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: look like there's a spider web in there? And I've

604
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: had spiders build nests in mass airflow centers and reek

605
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: havoc and you know, does it look like it's contaminated

606
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: with anything? If it visually looks good, then you want

607
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: to go take the car for a ride. Take the

608
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: car for a ride. Use your O B D two scanner,

609
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: all right, go look up calculated load. Calculated load is

610
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: a measurement of how well the engine is breathing air

611
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: in all right, when the car goes the computer sees

612
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: that by via mass airflow and calculates that and converts

613
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: that into a calculated load. Pit Generally a good mass

614
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: airflow on a healthy car from a twenty mile our

615
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: kick on the open road. You put your foot through

616
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: the headlight, you'll see calculated load eighty five to Sometimes

617
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: are you've got a bad mass air that's on the acceleration.

618
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: And that's what you'll say, all right, on a on

619
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: a on a on a on a bad car, you'll

620
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and you'll you know if you start to do good cars.

621
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: And this is my point, if you start to do

622
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: good cars, you'll know when bad cars are all right.

623
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: And that's a center that's under reporting. That test works

624
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: on just about everything out there. I haven't seen it

625
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: fail yet. Try that, but just to blanketly unplug. Now,

626
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me, Walter, Um, that just doesn't work.

627
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Do some calculated load tests. Called me back. I'm up

628
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: against the clock and we can talk about it more.

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00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm running eating the car doctor. I'm back right after this.

630
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking around this hour, run and needing the

631
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: car doctor. Here there's another hour of car Doctor and

632
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: right after this. Right now, let's get over to David

633
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: in Iowa. David, how can I help you today? Sir? Oh,

634
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like scar war. It could be, it could be.

635
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: I had a question for you. Have you doing any

636
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: surgery doing anything about the electric motorcycles like Land, Karasaki

637
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: or even Harley. You know I've read the reports on them, David.

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Speaker 1: The thing I don't get about why an electric motorcycle

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Speaker 1: is where's the fun? I mean, I get it, they're

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Speaker 1: fast and I and the reports I'm reading they're just

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Speaker 1: they're just lightning fast. But you know, to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever see the Hell's angels on

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Speaker 1: an electric motorcycle. I I just don't. I just where's

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Speaker 1: the where's the thrill? Where's the feel of the road,

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Speaker 1: where's the where's the rump rump rump as you're driving

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Speaker 1: down the highway? Uhcycle? I guess I'm not, you know, David,

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Speaker 1: the problem is, we gotta watch technology right and I

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Speaker 1: think I think this is going on out in your

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Speaker 1: neck of the woods as well as other places in

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Speaker 1: the Midwest with the farmers and the tractors, and they're

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Speaker 1: having issues getting the tractors fixed. And you know, you've

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Speaker 1: taken something that used to be so maintainable and repairrble

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Speaker 1: and now overcomplicated that the farmers can't get their tractors

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Speaker 1: fixed out in the middle of the fields. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just we don't want to overcomplicate things. We really don't. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's an issue, by the way, David, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go but let me just say this. I understand

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Speaker 1: you're part of the country. You guys have got the

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Speaker 1: floods out there and uh that par in Iowa, and

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Speaker 1: our prayers are with you guys. We know you're struggling

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Speaker 1: right now, and uh, good luck and keep going. God

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Speaker 1: bless I'm not an Indian the car doctor until the

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Speaker 1: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you