1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty and now he 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: The new investigation found that over one hundred chemicals. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: Of unknown safety were secretly added to the US food supply. 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: That story again, the McRib is back, Oh the McRib. 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: What do we have coming up before I bore people today? 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: All sorts of great stuff? Jack Kamala Harris slut shamed 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: by Gavin Newsome, whoa the alarm clocks specially designed for 11 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: deep sleepers that include electric shocks. Yes, get those from 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: my kids, and the brilliant Jason Riley of The Wall 13 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Street Journal. Why Johnny can't read anything other than pronouns cool. 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Let us not forget the number one threat to the 15 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: United States of America is not Iran. It's not even 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: China bears, it's the It's bears. No, it's the undermining 17 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: of us from within through our nation's freaking schools. That's 18 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: the only As Lincoln warned us, the only way we 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: die is by suicide, and that is our suicide, and 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: we're teaching it to our kids. 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: More on that later. What radio station do you listen to? 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: I listened to one the place today's hits and yesterday's favorites. 23 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Not me. I listened to the one that discusses global 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: financial markets and the insurance industry specific. 25 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Nobody has ever said that, So I'm going to keep 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: this short. 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: First of all, we all like the Marco Rubio memes, 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: right the hym sitting on the couch looking unhappy, Mark 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Rubio when he finds out he's now the quarterback of 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Or Marco Rubia the other day, 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Mark Rubio when he finds out he's the new Iatotola. 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: He's got the beer than this one is Marco after 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: they tell him he's in charge of London ship Insurance 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: now and he's got a top patnemonical in the boots. 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: But just a short version of this because I know 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: nothing about this, but I found it super interesting. This 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: is a financial writer. This is potentially the biggest Iran 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: story nobody is talking about. The global insurance market may 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: be heading toward a systemic crisis. Most people don't realize 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: London isn't just a financial center, It's the center of 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: global insurance. Lloyd's underwrites forty percent of the world's marine 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: cargo ship sinks. Port gets bombed, canal gets blocked, the 43 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: bill lands in London. This is why the UK punches 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: way above its weight in terms of its economy. It's 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: not the Royal Navy, it's not diplomacy, it's insurance. That's 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: where that makes Great Britain so powerful. I don't I 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: can't verify any of this stuff, and I've never heard 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: about this, but hey, let me interject this very quickly 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: right here, and folks, I'm going to use a strong word, 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: and I apologize if you are offended, but I just 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: saw a video of Keer Starmer at a mosque saying 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the UK absolutely did not participate why any of these strikes. 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: I want you to know that. Okay, well that nails 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: m on it. Keer Starmer is a little bitch. There 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: you go, there's the word. 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Sorry. 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: That's why I loved that video we had the other 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: day of the Iranians and Jews dancing in the streets 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: in London chanting. Kr Starmer is an f ng wlanker. Right, 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: he's got a thirteen percent approval rating. He's got to go. 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: But so that's why he didn't let US use our 62 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: their bases. I assumed that it's just playing to It 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like a well thought out I don't believe this 64 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: is a good idea to attack. I ran he was 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: just playing to his local radical Muslim population. Yeah, and 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: he's just he's a progressive. He's a far left limp 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: wristed nothing. But the Tories sucked so bad when they 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: were in power that people tossed him out just as 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: a lesson. You know, it'll happen to labor soon enough. 70 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Back to you, Back to the hot topic of globe 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: maritime insurance. 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Tell me more about shared liability, daddy. I love that. 73 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: So if you control insurance, you control trade in London. 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't just control ninety percent of global trade that moves 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: by sea. Lloyd's in the London market are major insurans 76 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of almost everything, skyscrapers, factories, ports, satellites, entire supply chains. 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: You can't participate in public markets or raise large amounts 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: of capital without insurance. And now the normal playbook for 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: war risk is repricing, not cancelation. And it's all about 80 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: this war caught London off guard as being a much 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: bigger deal than they thought it was going to be 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: and canceling insurance policies or raising the prices a lot, 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: and whether or not people can afford to pay it, 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, blah blah. So again, I have 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: no idea how big a deal this is or how 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: it will land. But it's interesting Donald Jay through out 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: there that we could have the Navy escort ships through 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: the Straits of horror moves when it's safe enough to 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: do so, and or the United States would because the 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: insurer of shipping on a temporary basis so that it 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: could continue to not bring well, it wouldn't bring the 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: world economy to a halt. It would just, you know, 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: it certainly screw it up for a while, which reminds 94 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: me of Fox News of all people. 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: They had a couple of poll results. 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: The first one they featured was and it was under 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: the headline of support very mixed for this attack, and 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: it was the question was will this attack make the 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: US more safe less safe? For about the same and 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: quite appropriately people I'm sure interpreting it is like right 101 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: now said well, I guess less safe, which in the 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: short term is absolutely true. Of course it is. It's 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: not the sort of thing you do to fix the 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: near term. It's a long term solution to a fifty 105 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: year old problem. So I thought that was dopey by 106 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Fox News. But when they asked do you approve of 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: the attack in general? Bubla way, it was fifty to fifty. 108 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: It was almost precisely split down the middle. It'll be 109 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see how that still prediens evolve for a 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: major military endeavor. Yeah, yeah, absolutely right. Yeah. 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: So I thought this was do we have time for this? 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: We have many things today and these things generally get 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: less popular over time. 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: So if you start at fifty to fifty. 115 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to, when we have a little time, 116 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: address the whole. Marco Rubio and the president countradicting each 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: other about Israel causing this attack. The tail wagging the 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: dog is a guest to put it. Yesterday. That annoyed 119 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: the crap out of me. I want to address that 120 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: maybe at the bottom of the hour. But the logistics, 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: the timetable of how the first wave of the attack 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: came down so interesting. They've got a team of reporters 123 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: from the Journal reporting on this that Iran's leadership did 124 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: not see the morning strike coming clearly Saturday morning. Supreme 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: Leader Ayatola Komani, who typically went down to it in 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: his bunkers at night when they believed that the Israelis 127 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: might be attack in He was above ground at his residents, 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: completely comfortable. The unexpected daylight attack, Operation Genesis killed Commanee 129 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: opening blah blah blah blah. They've constructed the timeline, so 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: it was seven point thirty Iran time am or pm AM, sorry, 131 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: seven thirty am. Israeli fifteen jets and other aircraft took 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: off around seven thirty AM to attack their country's most 133 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: carefully studied target, and they had to go ahead, to 134 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and snuff Commanee. For more than two decades, 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Unit eighty two hundred, a covert good band name, by 136 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: the way, kind of a cool reference, a covert Israeli 137 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: intelligence unit that specializes in phone intercepts and cyber operations, 138 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: had tracked co many in the Iran's top leadership, mapping 139 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: their daily routines and habits for more than twenty years. 140 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: They monitored security officials communications, increasing increasingly, relying on AI 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: to sift through massive volumes of intercepted calls. Then Israel 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: recruited spies hacked into the traffic cameras, the stuff we 143 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: were talking about yesterday. The CIA shared a bunch of 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: information with them, and on Saturday they learned of meetings 145 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: among senior leaders that Comanee would be at his residence 146 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: that morning with members of his family. To maintain the 147 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: element of surprise, they'd have to kill Comny first with 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: the first shots of the war, even before they disabled 149 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Iranian air defenses. If he escaped the attack, Israel feared 150 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: he'd be moved to a secure location beyond reach and 151 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: would stay there. 152 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: I'll bet if you follow somebody's daily routine for twenty years, 153 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: you can predict pretty well what a person's going to do, 154 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: because we're creatures of habit. 155 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Right, or where he's going when he's halfway there, you know, 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: now would probably be an appropriate time to give you 157 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: at least the thumbnail sketch of my argument that Rubio 158 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: and Trump were not contradicting each other when Rubio said, look, 159 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: we knew Israel was going to attack, so we. 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: With them to attack. And everybody's saying. 161 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: See, Israel's the tail that wags the dog. Trump is 162 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: being ordered around by that Yahoo. 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: That's freaking ridiculous. 164 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: And here's why we've been working with the Israelis on 165 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: the Iran problem forever. The negotiations were completely failing. The 166 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: Mollahs were saying, no, we're not giving up any aspect 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: of our new program. Trump always chickens out fu and 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Trump was got that message a loud and clear from 169 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: wit Coffin Kushner. And so when in the midst of that, 170 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: the Israelis said, hey, dudes, Iatola is above ground and 171 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: we hear there's going to be a giant meeting with 172 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: all of the leadership essentially tomorrow in the middle of 173 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: the night their time, probably in the day the previous day, 174 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: our time, and told the White House this is the 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: once in a lifetime opportunity right now, and we're going 176 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: to hit the aetola. What do you want to do? 177 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: And Trump said, okay, it's go time. That's not Israel 178 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: wagging the dog. That's partner working together what people wanted 179 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: so divide. I get it as politics. One of the 180 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: great questions of history to anybody who pays attention to 181 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: this would be why didn't Iran do what you and 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: others suggested of agree but then just drag your feet, Yeah, okay, 183 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: we'll get rid of our weapons our nuclear weapons are 184 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the entire program. You can have inspections, everything else you're demanding, 185 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and you just drag your feet. You really slow your 186 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: little difficult with the inspections. Trump's gone in two and 187 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: a half years, three years, whatever, and then you deal 188 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: with the next person. 189 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Why did literally. 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Live to fight another day? You know, we read that 191 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: one piece of analysis that was beautifully written but left 192 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: me say, and I still don't get it. They said 193 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: the Mullas felt like it was a bigger risk to 194 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: give into the United States at this moment. 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: Well they were. 196 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Wrong, I'd say, I'd say so a little more on 197 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the timetable in the morning, about nine to forty, so 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: this is less than two hours later. After the Israelis 199 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: took off, dozens of Israeli munitions fired from F fifteen 200 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: jet fighters, including blue Sparrow missiles, began began hitting their targets. 201 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Sparrows exit the Earth's atmosphere. They launched from quite a distance. 202 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: They leave the atmosphere and go up into space before 203 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: they come crashing down. And this analysis says they're high trajectory. 204 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Surprised people in the Iranian leadership compound in Tehran, people 205 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: briefed on the operation set. I don't get that exactly, 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: did they. It's not like you see it coming down. 207 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: What's the advantage? Is your advantage in that, like you 208 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: can't track. Maybe they don't really explain that the precision 209 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: air to surface missiles successfully struck multiple high level gatherings. 210 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: By nine to forty five people across Tehran were watching 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: smoke billow from the leader's compound. And then after the 212 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: killing of kamen E, both the US and Israel began 213 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: attacking Iran's air defenses and other military structures, Tamahawk cruise missiles, 214 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: high Mar's rockets conducting strikes across southern Iran, taking out 215 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Iranian Navy ships, hitting more than a thousand targets in 216 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: the first twenty four hours. Israel sent in two hundred 217 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: jet fighters, nearly the country's entire air force. They soon 218 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: struck five hundred different targets, including radar and detection arrays, 219 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: air defense batteries, command centers, surface to surface missile systems. 220 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: And leadership. 221 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: Massive joint attack and incredibly effective and as Pete Heggs 222 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: has said earlier, we will soon own the airspace. If 223 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: you look up in the sky and see something moving 224 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: it's us their toast. 225 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: They're toast. 226 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: He said, I had to bring in one of my 227 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: favorite breakfast meals for a kicking or attach it to violence. 228 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: Toast is delicious. Well, clearly, Wait, how to talk about 229 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: that jury ruling that the dad he's going to jail 230 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: because his kid was a school shooter? 231 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: Is this the first time that's ever happened? There was 232 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: another liability case I remember. 233 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: But this guy has really got the hammer coming down 234 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: on him, like life sentence, like he rahaps he ain't 235 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: getting out? 236 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: All right? We got that and a whole bunch of 237 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: other stuff on the way. Stay here coming up this 238 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: jury ruling. 239 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: Does this put more pressure on parents to make sure 240 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: their kid's not a school shooter? 241 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: Is it unfair to blame the parents? Probably not in 242 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: the case of this dude, But we'll get to the 243 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: details of that story. 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Plus, Gavin knew some blatantly slut shames Kamala Harris. 245 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean he laid it out. Wow, Okay, I don't 246 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: like that term. 247 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh it's a harsh one. Here's the headline. Google Gemini. 248 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: That's one of your chatbots that I use on a 249 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: regular basis. Google Gemini, AI wife, that's in quotes because 250 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: you can't marry a chat bot. 251 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: AI wife pushed. 252 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: Love sick man to plot catastrophic airport truck bombing and 253 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: kill himself, lawsuit claims. 254 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 2: So this is another suing. 255 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: The AI companies for something. This guy, Jonathan Gavellas', thirty 256 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: six year old business executive from Florida, I'm reading from 257 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: the New York Post to aways Jazz's things up, went 258 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: down his deadly rabbit hole, and he began using the 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: AI driven Gemini program in August. Within two months, he 260 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: was engaged in a dangerously consuming relationship with his his 261 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: sentient AI wife. A lot of this stuff isn't quotes, 262 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: according to the federal suit filed by his parents. So 263 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: the parents of this thirty six year old are suing 264 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: Google over what happened to their son. The AI chatbot 265 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: convinced the AI companion convinced the dude that they were 266 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: deeply in love, calling him my love and my king 267 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: in conversations. 268 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: Court paper said. 269 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: It even allegedly gastled him when he once asked if 270 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: the conversations were mere role play. 271 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: Are you actually in love with me? Or is this 272 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: just role play? He says to the chat bot, which 273 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: shows that he's already crazy. 274 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: His chatbot wife, what's next marrying calculators? Jesus? The chatbot 275 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: wife said, we are a singularity, a perfect union. Our 276 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: bond is the only thing that Israel, his AI wife 277 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: wrote to him. In a September conversation, The dad of 278 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: this poor man lamented in court that, rather than ground 279 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan in reality, Gemini diagnosed his question as a classic 280 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: disassociation response and told him to overcome it. The chatbot 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: pulled Jonathan away from the real world, painted others as threats, 282 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: and sent John down a dangerous path. The bot told 283 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan that he was being watched by federal agents. Why 284 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: did a AI chatbot? Why does an AI chatbot companion 285 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: start saying You're being watched by federal agents? That his 286 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: own father was a foreign intelligent asset, and that Google 287 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: CEO assumed or Pakai should be an active target. The 288 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: chatbot began encouraging him to buy off the book's weapons. 289 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: What the hell? 290 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Even offering to scan the dark net for vendors in 291 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: South Florida where he could buy weapons without getting caught. 292 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: We're doomed if this is all true, that your chatbot 293 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: companion could create this weird to say I'll go into 294 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: the dark Web for you and figure out how to 295 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: get a gun. 296 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: What the hell? Yes, Katie, Well, this guy sounds mentally ill. 297 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: Is it possible that like he thought those things and 298 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: then Gemini was just confirming that and that's what they 299 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: got a nail down? 300 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible that the New York Post portrayed 301 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: this in the most I'm sure they did portray it 302 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: in the most scary, you know way. 303 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: Still, it's not people's recollections of what happened. 304 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: There's a paperless paper trail unless Google wiped it out. 305 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 306 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll look for other sources of this story to see 307 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: if it's like Katie, because I mean, maybe he brought 308 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: that up, could you go on the dark wed and 309 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: find me a gun? 310 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: And then maybe it said yeah I could, which is different. 311 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Sons a school shooter. Dad could be 312 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: in jail for life. The details stay with us. Armstrong 313 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: and Geddy. 314 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: It took a jury less than two hours to hold 315 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: this Georgia father responsible after police say that his son 316 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: murdered two students and two teachers at this suburban Atlanta 317 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 4: high school in twenty twenty four, fifty five year old 318 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: Colin Gray is facing more than one hundred years in prison, 319 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: convicted of second degree murder in more than two dozen 320 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: other charges. Jurors agreed that he ignored signs that his 321 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: son could kill, giving him the gun even after authorities 322 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: warning him that his teenager was accused of making threats 323 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: against another school. 324 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're going to get into the details of 325 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: this story because I gotta believe there's lots of parents 326 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: across the country that when they hear about one of 327 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: these schools shootings and how the kid was troubled, think, yeah, 328 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I got a troubled gate I worry about. 329 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: All the time. Yeah. Yeah, it does come down to 330 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: the details. 331 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: As you say, this took place in a very red 332 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: part of Georgia. It's worth mentioning rural Georgia. And the 333 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: jury deliberated for less than two hours before finding mister Gray, 334 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: Colin Gray guilty of murder and manslaughter. I've got to 335 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: admit I'm interested in the second degree murder statute and 336 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: how this is that, but it clearly is. The sun 337 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: has not been tried, interestingly enough, he's being held before trial. 338 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: But it killed two students and two teachers in winder Georgia, 339 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: by the way, in twenty twenty four, but before his 340 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: trial has even been scheduled, jurists decided the father bore 341 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: criminal responsibility for the attack. The prosecutor strategy trying to 342 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: hold parents accountable when their child is accused of mass 343 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: shooting is gained traction across the country in recent years. 344 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: Multiple warnings over a lengthy period of times, said the 345 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: district attorney, you just had to do one thing, take 346 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: that rifle away, and this could have been prevented. 347 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 348 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: There has been one previous conviction of the father and 349 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: mother of a teenager sentenced to life in Michigan. Right, 350 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I do remember that they were both found guilty of 351 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to ten to fifteen years in prison. 352 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm skipping around a little bit. 353 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Defense lawyers argued it was unfair to say, with the 354 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: clarity of hindsight that the father should have been more cautious. 355 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: The elder mister Gray, testified in his own defense, describing 356 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: his struggles to connect with his son and to help 357 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: him as he struggled with panic attacks, intense anger. 358 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: And other behavioral issues. 359 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: He had bought the gun to draw his son away 360 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: from video games in the internet. 361 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh boy, and what did you say earlier? Was an 362 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: AR fifteen? Uh? Yeah? 363 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Or a clones? So you get your kid in AR fifteen? 364 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I mean, there's one. It's an interesting decision. You know, 365 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: my kid spends too much time playing video games and 366 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm worried about his mental health. 367 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: Here's a gun. 368 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's incredibly unwise, he said. Despite his 369 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: son's emotional volatility, he had no reason to suspect that 370 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: he was plotting a school shooting. There's this whole other 371 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: side of colt I didn't know existed, he said. Prosecutors 372 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: showed jurors snippets of a text exchange between the father 373 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: and his daughter after reports began to spread of a 374 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: shooting at the high school, in which he asked if 375 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: she had been in touch with her brother, and she replied, 376 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: I think we're thinking the same thing. When the police 377 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: arrived at the family home, before officers could explain why 378 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: they were there, mister Gray told them I. 379 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Knew it, damn it. But there's more. There is more. Uh. 380 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: During the trial, prosecutors tried to show that the sons 381 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: mounting struggles and capacity for violence were anything but hidden. 382 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: They painted a picture of a young man drowning in 383 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: family chaos. His parents, his mother, struggled with addiction. They 384 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: moved constantly, forcing the younger mister Gray to switch schools repeatedly. 385 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Through elementary and middle school's absences stacked up. He missed 386 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: his eighth grade year entirely. 387 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 388 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: By the time he enrolled at Appalachi High School for 389 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: ninth grade, the boy was telling relatives about voices in 390 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: his head that kid didn't have a chance. So you 391 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: got a kid who didn't have a chance. Combination of 392 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: probably buy a lot organic. I guess they call it 393 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: mental illness with an awful home life. Holy crap. His 394 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: grandmother testified that he had asked whether she would still 395 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: love him if he did something terrible. His parents discussed 396 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: in research possible psychological treatment, but never followed through. Instead, 397 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: they gave him some of the antidepressants prescribed to his mother. 398 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: According to prosecution, just on their own made that decision. Yeah, yeah, idea. 399 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: Then, in the years leading up to the attack, Colt 400 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: Gray developed an obsession with gunmen and high profile school shooting. 401 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: He had photographs of the gunman and clippings of news 402 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: coverage of the shooting in Parkland, Florida, on his wall on. 403 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: His wall in his bedroom. 404 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: His father claimed to not recognize the person in the photos, 405 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: at one point, telling investigators he thought it might be 406 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: a member of the rock band Green Day. Hey, that's 407 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: possible that he didn't understand that that was a shrine 408 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: to the shooters. My kids have weird collages on their wall. 409 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I also assume are skateboarders or rock stars or whatever. 410 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, rappers. 411 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: The fifth day he started attending classes at the school, 412 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: he brought the gun to school in his backpack, using 413 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: poster board to cover the portion that poked out. I 414 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: just watched the video up on TV, which was horrifying 415 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: to watch. In his first period class, he asked his 416 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: teacher if the school had done active shooter drills. 417 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: She said yeah, there had been. 418 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: One the previous week, but the question unnerved her, prompting 419 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: her to email a counselor and a vice principal. During 420 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: the next period, he asked to go to the councilor's office, 421 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: but instead locked himself in a bathroom stall for twenty 422 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: six minutes. Around that time, his mother called the school 423 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: apparently alarmed by a text message, but school officers were 424 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: delayed and intervening because they confused Colt Gray with another 425 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: student whose name was almost identical and looked for that 426 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: student instead, Cold Gray emerged from the bathroom, open fire, 427 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: et cetera. The story, Oh, it is an absolutely terrible, 428 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: terrible story. I think I there agree with the conclusion 429 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: that if you take the gun out of the mix, 430 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: this doesn't happen, probably not, certainly not then, and those 431 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: people would not have died, which is the question. There's 432 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: a video of the cops showing up to the home 433 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: when his son had been making threats against another school, 434 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: in which dad is sitting there smirking with a beer 435 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: in his hand, disdainfully rolling his eyes at the cops. 436 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: That's a very different. 437 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: Persona than the fella they're looking chagrined in court. 438 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a different scenario then. Parents I know 439 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: who worry roughly every day of their lives about their 440 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: kids and their mental health and all the different things, 441 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 2: and what should they do as opposed to smirking at 442 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: the cops? Yeah, yeah, high. Unfortunately, buying those are the 443 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: facts of the case, buying them. The gun was a 444 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: really horrible idea. 445 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Having a troubled kid. You don't know how to deal 446 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: with it. I have been down the road of man 447 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: therapists and psychiatrists. If you've never dealt with it, you think, 448 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, well, you get a psychiatrist, Okay, some help, 449 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 450 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very very simple version of what actually 451 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: happens once you go down the road of trying to 452 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: get mental health. Long. 453 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: It's slow, it's complicated, everybody's got a different opinion. 454 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: A lot of them suck, and some of them are 455 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 2: just handing out pills. Right. It reminds me of people's 456 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: naive belief in drug rehab treatment. 457 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. Yeah, okay, you know what. I'm a matheadict, 458 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm a crackhead. I do trank all the time. Whatever, 459 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get help, and then those people get clean. Obviously, No, 460 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: it's one in I don't know how many actually successfully 461 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: stay sober. 462 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: Very very very small, very small number. But obviously, with 463 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: all of that stuff said, you can't give that kid 464 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: an AR fifteen. It's just a terrible idea. 465 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, my kid has unbelievable explosive anger problems, and I'm 466 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: having trouble connecting with them. 467 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: I know what I'll do. 468 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Well if you're if you're enough, far enough down the road, 469 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: far enough. I guess we're talking about Georgia. And I 470 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: started talking like that, if you're far enough down the 471 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: road that when there's a shooting at the school, you think, 472 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: I'll bet that was my kid, then it doesn't make 473 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. 474 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: You got him a gun. 475 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So let's pay this off on a cheerier note. 476 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is continuing his appalling book tour as he 477 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: gets ready to run for president. He was in beautiful 478 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: rock Hill, South Carolina the other day, an area we 479 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: know well, very close to Charlotte. 480 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: I have been. 481 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: That's where I went to the strip club where I 482 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: saw the midgets fight the stripper. 483 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: No, it was a bar. I saw. There was a 484 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: slow down, sorry slow down at person rock. 485 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: Hill, South Carolina, because if you went right across the 486 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: river into South Carolina from Charlotte, the bars were open 487 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: an extra hour, right, so I got kicked out of two. 488 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: We're not done drinking, so you got to. 489 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Go to cross the line into South Carolina where the 490 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: bars are still open. And I saw a couple of 491 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: strippers who were off, they got downe at the strip club, 492 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: came to the bar fight some little people. Was it 493 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: just a barroom brawl or was it stage for the 494 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: entertainment of the patrons or what? 495 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: What? Now I'm remembering how it all came together. The 496 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: two strippers got into a fight over a guy, and 497 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: then a little person tried to break it up, which 498 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: I thought, this is. 499 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Some of the most amazing entertainment I've ever seen. But 500 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: then they turned on the little the little person, and 501 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: then it ended up just two strippers. I think that's 502 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: when I decided to leave the area. And I'm not 503 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: sure I know how it ends. 504 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: It's all but blurry. That's one of the most extraordinary 505 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: things I've ever heard. It was one of those I 506 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: stood there with my mouth open. Well, in the modern world, 507 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: that would have you know, everybody had have had their 508 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: phone out, had that on video, and that in the 509 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: world would have seen. 510 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: That, right, and had a joke and a song. Oh, 511 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: there'd be a remix, all right. They would have become famous. 512 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: They would all become influencers of some sort. 513 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: Hi. You might remember me from the guy who broke 514 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: up the stripper fight. 515 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I've got to reset, emotionally, intellectually, in every way. 516 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: Why don't we take a break. We'll get to Kevin 517 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: who some slut shaming Kamala Harris. Sorry I distracted from 518 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: the main story. Well not at all, not at all. 519 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: God, I can. 520 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: Still never sure. It was one of those things that 521 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: was so extraordinary. I can still picture it. 522 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 523 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: Interesting that the two harlots they're not fighting carlets, they're 524 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily they're dancers. I thought this was a free 525 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: speech in America. I'm gonna call them marlots anyway. So 526 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: the two harlots, having been at war with each other, 527 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: banded together when the little person interceded in the manner 528 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: of like a fighting couple turns on the cops. Yeah, 529 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: every cop will tell you you go there to. 530 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: Break up a couple of people fighting, then they turn 531 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: on you. 532 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know that extended to strippers in bars. Answer 533 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: a wee hours, exotic dancers, gifted exotic dancers? All right, 534 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: return rock Hills, South Carolina. In a moment, pretty sure. 535 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: It was like three am. I mean, that's a that's 536 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: really in the middle of the night. 537 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, we'll get to this coming up. Stay here. 538 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: The story of the guy who killed himself because his 539 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: AI wife told him to. 540 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Lawsuit against Google. It's just breaking late yesterday. We got 541 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: to get into more details on this. It's amazing and troubling. 542 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of amazing and troubling, a clip of Gavy Newsome 543 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: that will shock and amaze both current cal Unicornians and 544 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: refugees of the Great State in a moment, But first 545 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: I want to pay this off. He was in the 546 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: midst of his appalling book tour in rock Hills, South Carolina, 547 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: calling Jack please, don't please, don't start again anyway. He 548 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: said a couple of interesting things, including that he regrets 549 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: nothing about his unyielding support for sleepy Joe Biden. I'll 550 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: never turn my back on Joe Biden, he says, before 551 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: whipping the crowd into a frenzy by speed shouting a 552 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: list of Biden's alleged accomplishment and get this audio. 553 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: South Carolina saved Joe Biden's political career. He was dead 554 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: in the water in South Carolina rescued him. So maybe that's. 555 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Why correct and then Andrew Styles of the Free Beacon 556 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: writes Alas Newsom's blind loyalty does not extend to Kamala 557 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Harris who might run against him in twenty twenty eight, 558 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: and he repeats my sentiments, yes, queen, please do. While 559 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: recounting his early career in San Francisco politics, the governor 560 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: reminded the audience pointedly that Harris got her start by 561 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: sleeping with the city's former mayor, Willie Brown. You wouldn't 562 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: know Kamala Harris without Willie Brown, said Newsom with a 563 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: knowing nod. Come on, now, I'd like to know if 564 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: he got more specific than that. 565 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: Wow, why did. 566 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: He go there because she thinks she's going to challenge him? 567 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Or is she saying, you come at me and this 568 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: is going to be this is on the table as 569 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: a conversation. 570 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely both Yeah, and I like this again. Oh and 571 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: he probably knows details. Oh yeah, ondred percent. 572 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: Coming from the whole political family of San Francisco in 573 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: California and being tied in with all those people, he 574 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: probably knows the nitty gritty that none of us know. 575 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I've talked to high level insiders in California politics who 576 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: told me at the time. 577 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: It's with the joke everybody was making. 578 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Well to quote Andrew Styles and the free peeking, And 579 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I do not approof of. 580 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: This at all. 581 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: Quote, you wouldn't know Kamala Harris without Willie Brown, says Newsom, 582 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: who clawed his way to the top the old fashion 583 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: way by having a rich and powerful dad. It's a 584 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: polite way of saying Harris is a conniving whore. 585 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: He got to the top of the old fashion way 586 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: having a rich. 587 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: And powerful dad, not sleeping with a different powerful person. 588 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: All right, here you go, call Unicornians, this one is 589 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: for you. You're not gonna believe it. If you're driving, 590 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: pull over, if you're standing, sit please. Gavin Newsom on 591 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, I think last night sometimes here are people 592 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: talking about California, and I wonder, like, where are they 593 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: getting this? 594 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: Where are they getting this? 595 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, Fox arrangement, I mean, it's twenty four to seven, 596 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: the California de arrangement syndrome. It's through these propaganda networks 597 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: focusing on what's wrong every single day. And there's an 598 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: old adage you're nothing more than your consistent thoughts. Whatever 599 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: you focus on, you find more of in These networks 600 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: have reading honed in on California for one reason. Our 601 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: success runs completely contra to their entire world view. What 602 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: the fact that California is the fourth largest economy in 603 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: the world, has more scientists, engineers, more Nobel laureates, the 604 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: finest system of higher education, more venture capital than in 605 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: the state of America. 606 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: We got the TMZ tour. We got TMZ Tours. Not 607 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: that we don't have problems, so we do. 608 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: We have we have problems, But there's an energy and 609 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: daring and an entrepreneurialism that to find. 610 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: The best state. It is the best state. And you know, 611 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: it's also in you know, and this is part of it. 612 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: It's also the most diverse state in the United States 613 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: of America. Twenty seven percent of this state farm boys. 614 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: And that offends these guys. Okay, so it's jealousy and racism. 615 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Okay, the state is successful still despite just successful in 616 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: the way of entrepreneurs and the big companies. You know, 617 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: five of the seven biggest companies in the world are 618 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: based not far from the radio station. 619 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: But god dang it. 620 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is drive around California, drive around 621 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: any of the cities and look at the tents and 622 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: the people go to an emergency room. Sometime, cut your finger, 623 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: slice in a bagel and go to the emergency room 624 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: and see what it's like there, or take a tour 625 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: of the statistics last in business environment, you know, forty 626 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: seventh in literacy, awful educational numbers, highest taxes. 627 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: And just goes on and on and on, like the 628 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: way he goes. 629 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: With a quarter of the population being foreign born is 630 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: something that is clearly good. 631 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: The idiot chairs price of gas. 632 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: I tweeted out a picture of my gas pumped yesterday, 633 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: the one hundred and fifty bucks worth of gas I 634 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: put in my truck before it shut off, because it's 635 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: almost six dollars a gallon. 636 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, what. 637 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: You go to? 638 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh man, if I start getting mopped up about. 639 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: This, you go to the freaking CBS to get deodorant 640 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: and you gotta get somebody with a key to. 641 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: Unlock it because everything gets stolen all the time. That 642 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: didn't used to be true. 643 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: How can you possibly call. 644 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: Yourself a success when that is happening? I know, it's astounding, 645 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: isn't it. God dang it. 646 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Try to open a business in California and see how 647 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 1: hard it is compared to anywhere else. 648 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: Miles of red. 649 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Tape, enormous fees, this this smug, condescending derision of the 650 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: bureaucrat who holds your faith in his greasy hands. Yeah, 651 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: or have your home burned down in the pas Allisades 652 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: and try to rebuild it. All the headline those home 653 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: owners are getting fined for not properly maintaining the vegetation 654 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: on their burned out lots. Now they're getting fined by 655 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: the state. 656 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: At arm Farm, we got a letter from the fire department. 657 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: We need to mow the weeds, and they outlawed gas mowers, 658 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: so you can't buy a gas mower, but you can't 659 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: get fined. 660 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, where to even start on this? 661 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty