1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if you 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: ever feel I need to be a doctar man hitting 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: with the heat. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Did she get today? 5 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Please? Doesn't? 6 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: I had to come of the day? 7 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: The breakfast club bitching. 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: Donkey today for Monday, September twenty second goes to a 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: New Mexico man named Ishmael Tina. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Uh. He's twenty seven years old. Why in as far 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. 12 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Okay, And he's accused of two counts of open murder 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: in the first degree. 14 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: It is some cold bloody killers out here, man. Okay. 15 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: I was talking to my wife last night and I 16 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: was telling her how we live in a world that, 17 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: for the most part, is just it's just built on trust. 18 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Like we all have to trust each other in order 19 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: for us to have a civilized society. 20 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what do I mean by that? 21 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean everything from waking up to take public transportation. 22 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a bus ride, shat service, 23 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: trained airplane. You have to trust whoever is driving that 24 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: vehicle to get you to your destination safely. You have 25 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: to trust all the passengers on those rides not going 26 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: bug out. 27 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 28 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: We drop our kids off school, we have to trust 29 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: the principles and trust the teachers and trust the staff 30 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: to take care of our kids. Humans have to have 31 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: this trust system, Okay. Humans have to trust other humans 32 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: to not be crazy in order for us to have 33 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: a civilized society. That's the only thing that keeps this 34 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: world civilized insane for the most part, and we do 35 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: a good job, you know, give a take, hey, because 36 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: it's way more humans doing the right thing than it 37 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: is people like Ishmael Tina. Okay, there's a lot of 38 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: decent men in this country of demons, but Ishmael Tina 39 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: is not one of them. 40 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 41 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: See, two people are dead because of Ishmael. And I 42 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: know some of y'all might be saying people get shot 43 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: every day be but no, they're not supposed to. 44 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I know. 45 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirkwin said, I think it's worth it to have 46 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year 47 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: so we can have the Second Amendment to protect our 48 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: other God given rights. I don't all the way agree 49 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: with that, okay, because majority of these gun deaths are 50 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: just senseless and this is just the latest example. 51 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to KRQE News thirteen for the report. 52 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: Police calling nine to one one only end up in 53 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: handcuffs himself. That's the pattern for twenty seven year old 54 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: Ismael Tenna, who is most recently behind bars for the 55 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: deadly shooting of two O'Reilly Auto Parts employees following a 56 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: dispute over an oil filter court record. So Tenna called 57 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: nine one one shortly after that Sunday shooting outside the 58 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: store near cors and Blake that killed forty seven year 59 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: old Richard Newman and eighteen year old has Seuss Valdez. 60 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: Tenna told the dispatcher the two employees came after him 61 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: and he was scared for his life. But when berne 62 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: Leo County deputies arrived, they determined Tenna should be charged 63 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: with two counts of murder. 64 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: This Monday, man oil filters, oil filters. Two people shot 65 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: dead because of oil filters. R I Peter Richard Newman 66 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: forty seven and Jesus Vadez eighteen. I feel sorry for 67 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: those individuals. That poor eighteen year old young man, man 68 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: life just getting started. This might have been his first job, 69 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: not a dead over oil filters. Let me also take 70 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: the time to say I don't care where you work. 71 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care what the place of employment is. 72 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: I can assure you that business isn't dying for you, 73 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: and you shouldn't die. 74 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: For set business. Okay. 75 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: If that man and his father walked out of there 76 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: with oil filters without paying, call the police. Okay, call 77 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: law enforcement. There's no need to play vigilanty. There's no 78 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: need to go after those individuals. Let them have whatever 79 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: they took. Because people are crazy. I don't think y'all 80 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: understand how unhealed trauma is leading people to project that 81 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: pain and hurt they are feeling onto other individuals. Yes, 82 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: two people killed in New Mexico over oil filters, but 83 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: trust and believe there's somebody somewhere today who will get 84 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: killed for less Why because of other people's underlying trauma. Okay, 85 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Ishmael should have realized a long time ago that his 86 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: feelings are temporary, but prison is permanent, especially when you 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: charged with two counts of murders. And that is the 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: lesson I want us all to take from this story. 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: That's what I want you to understand from donkey of. 90 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: To day to day. 91 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary emotions, or you 92 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: will find yourself by yourself in a prison cell or 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: even worse, a casket. Please give Ishmael Tina the biggest 94 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: he hull oil filters. 95 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: It is beyond that. 96 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: Okay, Now, let's wool sap because Lauren Lroosso was in 97 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: here crying about something earlier. 98 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, you weren't crying, but. 99 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: You but you'll be reminiscing though. You hear certain things 100 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: and you get triggered. Yeah, and we had to cast 101 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: a Reasonable Doubt here last week, and this conversation sparked 102 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: from that. From that conversation, if you really love the person, 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: you probably would have been more careful, wouldn't she? 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: To begin with lot of things, go a little bit 105 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: further on that, if she really cheated? What happened. 106 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: A women sheet? 107 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: I got you said women do their thing is different. 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: Just because I love Jackson they were separated, you forgot. 109 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: What I'm talking about, Like, we can't do that though? 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: Is that wrong? 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Now? 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: For everybody who watches Reasonable Doubt, you know that Jax 113 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: and her husband Lewis are dealing with the aftermath of 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: a break baby that Lewis and Tony had. And even 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: though it's a TV show that happened to you in 116 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: real life, Lauren take a deep breath and telling the story. 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: Don't curse and stuff like you did when the MIC's 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: were off. Just just tell the story calmly. 119 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: My story or jack your story. 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: We know what happened with Jackson. That's the story. Your 121 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: opinion is way more hilarious to me. 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: Ahead, you are a horrible person. Okay. 123 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 5: So somebody that I was seeing a while ago, who 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: doesn't matter anymore. 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: I moved to a different No, they don't. 126 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: I moved to a different state, and I was like, 127 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 5: you know what, let's just take a break. 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: This ain't working out. When you're saying to eye blah 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: blah blah. 130 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 5: I even said you can go ahead and see other people, 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: because let's just be honest. 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: We're in two different states. I'm in La. You're across 133 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: the country. 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: Baby that less see other people led to a baby, 135 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 5: which is okay. 136 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: And then you got back with the man. 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: I decided to get back with him. I'm no longer 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: with him though. 139 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about accountability. Okay, Yes, Now, if you and 140 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: a person decide to take a break, and y'all stay, 141 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: we're taking a break and you see other people, if 142 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: that person goes out there and gets another individual pregnant, 143 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 3: and then you choose choice. Remember that choice, choose choice, choose, 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: you choose to get back with that individual. 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: There should be nothing to complain about. 146 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: So my only complaint was there shouldn't be anything. 147 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: My only complaint was that there was a lot of 148 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: lying that happened, like I and also I shouldn't have 149 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 5: had to hear from from anybody else but the person 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 5: that I was in a relationship with for all that time. 151 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: You still chose to take the person back even through that. 152 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, but still things could still upset you, and you 153 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: know it hurt a little bit at the time. And 154 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: also too, I feel like even though there was a break, 155 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: we had had conversations about what the rules of the break. 156 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Were, knew we were getting. 157 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Yes, we had a conversation. 158 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: Nobody ends up pregnant and no full relationships during this break, 159 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 5: even the plan was to get back together. 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Okay, But even with all of that, he went out there, 161 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: he violated the rules, he had a baby. You still 162 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: took him back, Lauren. You made a choice. You chose 163 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: to take that individual back. How can you be mad 164 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: at that man if you chose to take them back. 165 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: If it was that serious, you wouldn't take them back. 166 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: That's not true. 167 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: Women take men back for things that are very serious 168 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: all the time. 169 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: But you still made the choices. What I'm saying, you 170 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: made a choice to get back with the person. So 171 00:07:52,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: what is the issue? I ate nothing, I'm just throwing 172 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: things out. 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: What is it? 174 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: What is the question? Because I'm confused? 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Why? What is the question? 176 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: I guess we're just having a discussion about break babies. 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: Should that be a deal breaker in a relationship? Because 178 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: of my thing is if people if the women are 179 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: choosing to take these men back after they have babies 180 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: or vice versas. I'm sure there's situations where a man 181 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: chose to take a woman back if she had a baby, 182 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: if they're choosing to have these If y'all are choosing 183 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: to take these individuals back, why is it a. 184 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: Problem Because you still have emotions involved, and that's it's 185 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: a whole. 186 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: So don't take the person so raising it's not that easy. 187 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it, and five one oh five 188 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: to one? What is our opinion of break babies? Our 189 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: opinion they are break babies, little break baby? Okay, it's 190 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. 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