1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review, Ben 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Ferguson with you. And if it sounds like I'm under 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: the weather, h I have the flu right now. But 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the show, as they say, must go on. So here 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: are the three stories that you may have missed that 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: we talked about this week. First up, Democrats not in 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: charge and don't mind shutting down the government to hurt 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So will it work? We'll explain that in 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: a moment. Also, so security checks are going out to 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: people that are one hundred and fifty years old. That's right. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Doge is uncovering more waste, fraud and abuse. It's incredible 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: what we found in the first three weeks. And we'll 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: have the list for you as well. And finally, usaid 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: money going directly to terrorist organizations and charities and the 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: government knew it the entire time. It's the week in 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: review and it starts right now. Democrats now trying to 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: figure out their footing. They had Alamo mar who went 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: on TV today saying that Trump has decided he will 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: not abide by the constitution, just throwing it out there, 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: and then she says, by the way, every executive order 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: that's been to now has been shut down by the court. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: That's a lie, not true. But even face the nation 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: try to softly correct her because they want this to 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: be true. Right, And then there's this new threat of like, 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: all right, we'll just shut down the government. I kind 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: of laugh because for many concerns are like, great, let's 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: shut it down and save some money for a while. 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: I wish it worked that way. I wish it was 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: that simple. It's obviously not. But this is the new 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: temper tantrum of the left. They're saying, if we aren't 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: in charge, then we want to destroy what the government does. Well, 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: we want to hurt people, and we want to shut 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: down the government to hurt people. So you'll blame Donald Trump. 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: That's what this is really all about. Am I wrong? 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: Well, look, understand, there's a battle going back and forth, 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: and at some level, this battle is inherent in the 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: structure of our government. It's inherent in the Constitution Congress. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Under Article one, all legislative power is vested in the 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Congress of the United States. Congress passes the laws that 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: the president signed under law and that are then binding 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: federal law. The executive All executive power is vested in 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: the president of the United States. That's under Article two 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: of the Constitution, and the president is charged with has 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: given the authority to and also the responsibility to quote 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: take care that the laws be faithfully executed. That's the 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Constitution's language. And so a lot of you know, it's 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: interesting as I travel around and talk to people back 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: back home in Texas or around the country, they ask, Okay, 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: so is what Elon's doing? Is what Trump is doing 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: cutting off funding at USAID pausing other funding? Is that 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: going to stick? And this is a battle back and 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: forth between the executive and legislature that has occurred since 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: the very first days of the Republic. And one of 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: the things right at the heart of this battle is 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: about something called impoundment. Now, what does impoundment mean. Impoundment 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: is when the President of the United States decides not 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: to spend money that has been appropriated by the US Congress. 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: Now you might ask, okay, is impoundment some crazy theory 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump cooked up or Elon Musk cooked up? Well, no, No, 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: impoundment has been around for more than two hundred years. 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: The first president to exercise impoundment was Thomas Jefferson, and 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: he did so in eighteen oh one. And if you 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: look at what Thomas Jefferson did, the first use of 64 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: impoundment involved a refusal to spend fifty thousand dollars, which 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars in twenty twenty three dollars is about 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: one point twenty four million in funds that were appropriated 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: for the acquisition of gunboats for the United States Navy. 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: And Thomas Jefferson said in eighteen oh three that quote, 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: the sum of fifty thousand dollars appropriated by Congress for 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: providing gunboats remains unexpended. The favorable and peaceful of affairs 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: on the Mississippi rendered an immediate execution of that law unnecessary. Now, 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: Jefferson did so, and in the years that went on, 73 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: presidents did so for two hundred years. Now what happened, well, 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies, Richard Nixon had a battle with Congress, 75 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: and Congress got angry with Richard Dixon and felt he 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 2: was using impoundment too aggressively, and Congress passed a law 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: called the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of nineteen 78 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: seventy four that purported to remove the power of impoundment 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: or at least to severely curtail it, and the Supreme 80 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Court heard a decision. It was a decision called Train 81 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: versus City of New York, where the Supreme Court upheld 82 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: the Impoundment Control Act and significantly reduced the president its 83 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: power to exercise impoundment. Now, by the way that there 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 2: was a subsequent wrinkle in this in that Congress came 85 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: back afterwards and passed a bill called the Line Item 86 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Veto Act of nineteen ninety six. This happened after the 87 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: Republican takeover of Congress Knu Gingrich came in, and the 88 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: Line Audam Veto Act gave the president the power of 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: line adam veto, which Bill Clinton used on the federal 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: budget eighty two times. However, that law was struck down 91 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight by the Supreme Court. It was 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: a five to four vote. Actually, my former boss and 93 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: very good friend, Chuck Cooper, the man who taught me 94 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: how to be a lawyer, argued that case. Unfortunately, he 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: was on the losing side of that case and lost 96 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: five to four. The point what Elon is doing and 97 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: what Trump is doing, there's a long history of presidents 98 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: saying I don't want to spend money that is wasteful 99 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to Now. There's also a history 100 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: of Congress pushing back what's likely to happen. There is 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: already and there will be more a crap ton of 102 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: litigation challenging these actions. We're seeing Democrat attorneys general bringing lawsuits. 103 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: We're going to see Democrat interest groups being bringing lawsuits. 104 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: We're going to see activist judges striking down actions executive orders, 105 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: and this is going to test the legal boundaries at 106 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: the end of the day. Part of what is going 107 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: on is this is designed to go to the Supreme 108 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: Court and to restore the power of impoundment to the president. 109 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: I think that would be a very good thing. I 110 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: think it is consistent. It is an inherent authority of 111 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: the president to exercise the authority of impoundment. But understand, 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 2: we're going to see a litigation battle Royale and it'll 113 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: take in all likelihood. 114 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: So this is that you're saying, this is a fight 115 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: that we want to go to the Spring Court. And 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: if it does go to the Spring Court and it 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: plays to our advantage the way that you're describing it 118 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: with the law, how long is it going to take 119 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: us to. 120 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: Get it there probably a couple of years, two to 121 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: three years. 122 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: So and so in the next two or three years, 123 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: we're going to be just dealing with pure fights with 124 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: with the media. Democrats coming after and trying to stop 125 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: everything that they're trying to cut with waste fraud, number. 126 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Use yes, and and understand Elon and Doze that they're 127 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: embodying right now, the Silicon Valley mantra of move fast 128 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: and break things. I mean, that's what they're doing. Not 129 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: everything that they do is going to be upheld. There 130 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: will be injunctions issued, and I think they understand that, 131 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: and I think they're trying to They're trying to implement 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: the mandate that came from the voters as rapidly and 133 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: effectively as possible. Listen, I for what I'm excited about 134 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: that and and I think if you look at some 135 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: of the egregious abuses that have been uncovered so far, 136 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: it gives an illustration of just how important this is. 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: Before we move on to the federal financial watchdog order 138 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: to c sectivity, and that's important we're going to do 139 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: with that. In a second, one final question on this, 140 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: we could go back. I think whenever the sale was 141 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: a year and a half whatever it was when Elon 142 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Musk took over Twitter and we saw the Twitter files 143 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: and then we saw the corruption. I actually think you 144 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: can trace this all the way back to there. When 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: people really start paying attention to saying I don't trust 146 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the government. You add COVID in there, and the lies 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: of the vaccine and the two weeks stuff the spread, 148 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: and then we want into virology, and then the lies 149 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: over the hunter Byden laptop, and there started to be 150 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: these moments that were big where people are like, Okay, 151 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be so trusting of the news, maybe 152 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be trusting of the government, the deep state, 153 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the president, and then you have him take over X 154 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Twitter now X. Part of the reason why I think 155 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's having so much success now is because we're 156 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: getting the word out about the waste and the fraud 157 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: and getting the line out of it, and people are 158 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: seeing it. Because before you go back twenty sixteen, center 159 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: big tree falls in the forest, no one's around. Does 160 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: it make a sound right? The answer is no. But 161 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: now what we're getting in the info that we're getting 162 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: and it's getting out because big tech can't suppress it. 163 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: On X. How valuable is that to saving our democracy? 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's incredibly valuable. I believe Elon Musks 165 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: buying Twitter was the most important development for free speech 166 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: in modern times because it turned around the rampant censorship 167 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: from big tech. It put positive pressure on the rest 168 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: of big tech, and it created a vehicle for the 169 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: truth to get out. So you know, we've gone through 170 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: in previous podcasts all the examples, not all the examples, 171 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: but a number of examples of abusive spending two million 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: dollars for sex changes in Guatemala. Now, who the hell 173 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: can defend that? Why US taxpayers are paying for sex 174 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: changes in Guatemala? Money to the BBC, the British Broadcasting Corporation, 175 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: By the way, that why the hell are American taxpayers 176 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: paying for the BBC? The last I checked, the United 177 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: Kingdom is a major developed country. They can pay for 178 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: their own damn television station. What we need? What do 179 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: we need to pay for that? And what's amazing is 180 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: the Democrats are just digging in. Give a listen to 181 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: Senator Chris Coons defending spending twenty million dollars on American 182 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: taxpayer money for Sesame Street in Iraq. 183 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Give a listen. 184 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Is funding Sesame Street a judicious use of soft power? Well, Michael, 185 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: the way you put it is the way I hope 186 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: folks considering your poll today will think about it. This 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: isn't just funding a kid show for children, millions of 188 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: children in countries like Iraq. It's a show that helps 189 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: teach values, helps teach public health, helps prevent kids from 190 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: dying from dysentery and disease, and helps push values like collaboration, peacefulness, 191 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: cooperation in a society where the alternative is isis extremism 192 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: and terrorism. And to your point, it's pennies on the dollar. 193 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: The US Department of Defense has an annual budget of 194 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: about eight hundred and fifty billion dollars. USAID was spending 195 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: about thirty billion dollars. It is a small proportion of 196 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: our total federal spending. And as Joe and I would 197 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: often say, it's not just soft power, it's smart power. 198 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: Let me leave you with one other quote, Michael, if 199 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: I could, Jim Mattis, who is a four star Marine 200 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Corps general and Trump's Secretary of Defense in his first term, 201 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: in a hearing back then said, if you slash development 202 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: and aid spending, then I'm going to need more bullets 203 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: for our troops. 204 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about stretching. He's saying, 205 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Sesame's He's going to save us from extremism. Are we 206 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: kidding ourselves? 207 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: Well? 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Look, the Democrats are dug into defending everything to defending 209 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: all of the money that was just flowing out with 210 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: no checks whatsoever. And I think these examples are having 211 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: a real effect of pissing people off, saying, why is 212 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: my money going to that? By the way, if Democrats 213 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: think that's such a good idea, let them give their 214 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: own money for that. But what right do they have 215 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: to take your money that you're working hard to provide 216 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: for your kids and your family, to take it and 217 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: spend it on every radical agenda item they want to push. 218 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: That's what's been happening. It happened at egregious levels under 219 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: the Biden administration, and I think that's what Trump's working 220 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: very hard to turn around. 221 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Great point. Finally, I want to ask you about 222 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: this because I think it should be on listeners, radar screen. 223 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: It's an important issue. The New York Times is coming 224 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: out talking about this. The Federal Financial Watchdog has been 225 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: or deceive activity known as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. 226 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Why is this happening and what does this mean? 227 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: Well, the CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, was was 228 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 2: created by the Dodd Frank Law. This is a creation 229 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: of Elizabeth Warren and and and it is it has 230 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: descended like locusts putting putting all sorts of regulations and costs. 231 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: It brings abusive litigation. It is it is an avenue 232 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: for for left wing bureaucrats to try to control community banks, 233 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: smaller financial institutions, and to drive up costs. And the CFPB. 234 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: I've introduced repeatedly legislation to eliminate the CFPB. 235 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 236 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: What happened this week is Russ vote was confirmed leave 237 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: the Office of Management and Budget. And Russ's is a 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: good friend. He's a good guy. He he ran ob 239 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: under Trump during the first term. And Russ was just confirmed. 240 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: We just confirmed him this past week to run o 241 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: and be again. And on Friday he was also named 242 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: the acting director of the of the Consumer Financial Protection 243 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: Beer the CFPB, and as a result, he issued an 244 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: order for them to halt what they're doing. So one 245 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: chunk of it, so the way Elizabeth Warren structured it, 246 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: Congress does not appropriate money to the CFPB, which is weird. 247 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: By the way, if you look at virtually every federal agency, 248 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Congress appropriates money for them. That's that's part of the 249 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: checks and balances of how the federal government is set up. Well. 250 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: Dodd Frank instead has the CFPB funded with money from 251 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve that flows automatically, so Congress doesn't get 252 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: to appropriate and engage in the oversight that comes with that. 253 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: So as a result, on Saturday, russ Vote wrote that 254 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: he had notified the Federal Reserve that the CFPB quote 255 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: will not be taking its next straw of unappropriated funding 256 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: because it is not reasonably necessary to carry out its duties. 257 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: The bureau's current balance of seven hundred and eleven point 258 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: six million dollars is in fact excessive in the current 259 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: fiscal environment. This spigot, long contributing to CFPB's unaccountability is 260 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: now being turned off. That is fantastic. And I'll tell 261 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: you what. I've introduced legislation that will zero out the CFPB, 262 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: that will shut it down permanently. I believe we will 263 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: get that done as part of budget reconciliation, and so 264 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: eliminating the CFP would be a major victory for lowering inflation, 265 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: for lowering burdensome regulation, for lowering the nanny state control 266 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: of big government. And if we get that done, that's 267 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: a huge victory. I'll tell you, Russ vote taking over 268 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: his acting director in the past few days was a 269 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: major step forward in that regard. 270 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 271 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 272 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Let's 273 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: move to another aspect of just an incredible three weeks 274 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: where Elon Musk and Donald Trump are doing exactly what 275 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: they said they were going to do, and they are 276 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: i think using the media, the bully pulpit, the microphone 277 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: that they've been given in the Oval Office to inform 278 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the American people, those that voted for him and others 279 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: that maybe didn't, that hey, we're finding some of the 280 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: most ridiculous, egregious waste of your tax dollars. And one 281 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: of the stories they talked about was people that are 282 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: still getting Social Security checks when they're quote one hundred 283 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: and fifty years old. 284 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really powerful. So President Trump and Elon 285 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Musk did a press conference from the Oval Office on Thursday. 286 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: Earlier this week, President Trump signed an executive order instructing 287 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: DOGE to coordinate with federal agencies and to execute massive 288 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: cuts in federal government staffing numbers. And the order instructs 289 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: federal agencies and DOGE to significantly shrink the size of 290 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: the federal government and to limit the hiring of new employees. 291 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: And I got to say, Elon Musk laid out several 292 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: of the egregious examples of abuse. Listen to listen to 293 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: this first one. 294 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: You know that's crazy things like just cussory examination of 295 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 5: social Security. And we've got people in there at one 296 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty years old. Now do you know anyone 297 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty? 298 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: I don't. 299 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: Okay, they should be on the Guinness Book of World Records. 300 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 5: They're messing out, so you know that's the case, where 301 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: like I think they're probably dead, that's my guess, or 302 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 5: they should be very famous. 303 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: The two I mean, I want to meet him, and 304 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: you want to want to meet him. The President wants 305 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: to meet him. You want to meet him. Right, if 306 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: you're one hundred and fifty, you're still check. 307 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: Ben Ben, I got to say, you don't look at 308 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: day over one hundred and forty CA. 309 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is the stuff that you just 310 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: can't even make it up. Of course, they would be 311 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: sitting a check to somebody that we assume is just 312 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: is committing fraud here right like this check's ever stopped 313 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: and I just keep cashing them and stupid your center fraud. 314 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: Of course it's fraud. And the Biden administration had no 315 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: interest in uncovering that fraud. And take a listen to 316 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: what President Trump said about the magnitude of the waste 317 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: fraud and abuse. That they're finding. 318 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: Billions and billions of dollars in waste fraud and abuse. 319 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 6: And I think it's very important, and that's one of 320 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 6: the reasons I got elected. I say, we're going to 321 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 6: do that. Nobody had any idea was that bad. That's sick, 322 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 6: and that corrupt. And it seems hard to believe that 323 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 6: judges want to try and stop us from looking for corruption, 324 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 6: especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars worth 325 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 6: much more than that in just a short period of time. 326 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: We want to weed out the corruption. And it seems 327 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: hard to believe that a judge could say, we don't 328 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: want you to do that. Well, so maybe we have 329 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 6: to look at the judges because that's very serious. I 330 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: think it's a very serious violation. 331 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: He mentioned the judges there by the way, there's a 332 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: lot of activist judges that were put in by liberals 333 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: who are like, all right, we're the last defense here, 334 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: so let's try to, you know, stop him at all 335 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: costs to, you know, because he's too successful at giving 336 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: the American people transparency and their money back. 337 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: Look, Barack Obama and Joe Biden put a lot of 338 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: radicals on the federal bench, and right now you've got 339 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: Democrat attorneys general going and seeking out these radicals to 340 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: file lawsuits. You've also got left wings special interest groups 341 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: seeking out these radical judges. We're going to see a 342 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: lot of lawsuits. We're going to see a lot of 343 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: law fair over the next four years. But you know, 344 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: I got to say, watching Democrats in the media melt 345 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: down number one, they've always melted down over Trump. They 346 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: have Trump arrangement syndrome, but they also have Elon derangement syndrome. 347 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: And they scream, well, Elon Musk was not elected to anything. Well, yeah, 348 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: that's true, but Donald Trump was elected to something. He 349 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: was elected to President of the United States, and he 350 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: was elected on a mandate. And this is actually a 351 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: point that that Elon made made quite effectively in the Oval. 352 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: Give a listen. 353 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: The people voted for major government reform. There should be 354 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: no doubt about that. That was on the campaign. The 355 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: President spoke about that at every rally. The people voted 356 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 5: for major government reform. And that's what people are gonna get. 357 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: They're going to get what they voted for. And a 358 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: lot of times that you know, people that don't get 359 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: what they voted for, but in this presidency, they are 360 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 5: going to get what they voted for. And that's what 361 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: democracy is all about. 362 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: I got to say, I love listening to Elon. You've 363 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with him. I think this 364 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of just how genuine his heart 365 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: is on this. He truly is a believer in this 366 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: country and giving the American people what they voted for. 367 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: And he is an agent to go find the waste 368 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: brown abuse, and he's and he's and he's incredibly focused 369 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: on it. 370 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: He is he is incredibly focused, and he's right. This 371 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: is democracy, and yet it is causing the radical left 372 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: to lose their minds. You know, I got to say, 373 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: I want to play this, this this segment from CNN, 374 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: because it really does show how the media that their 375 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: minds are melting down. You had former New Hampshire governor 376 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: Chris Snunu who's on, and he's on with Anderson Cooper, 377 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: and Anderson Cooper loses it. And you've also got Jeffrey Tubin, 378 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: another left wing CNN contributor. You know your old buddies. 379 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: These are all the folks you piled around with them, 380 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: like seven years in hell? Seven years in hell. Do 381 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: you have CNN tattooed somewhere on your body? 382 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 5: I do not. 383 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I do not. I'm just checking. 384 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: So all right, give a listen to Chris Sonunhu and 385 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: and and and look how he how he causes the 386 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: CNN folks to lose their minds. 387 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: It surreal. 388 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 7: But I got to tell you, I know what you're 389 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 7: not showing here. Must gave seven specific examples off the 390 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: top of his head of where the corruption and fraud were. 391 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 6: I know you don't. 392 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 7: You didn't play the clips. He was talking about a 393 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 7: contractor that had a three month contract, he was paid 394 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 7: for twenty years. He was talking about welfare benefits that 395 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 7: were being paid to someone that was technically one hundred 396 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: and fifty years old. He was talking about line item from. 397 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 4: Ridden had no justificationenty act like he doesn't present any 398 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: actual evidence. 399 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 7: Well, he's standing there in the Oval office. Do you 400 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 7: expect him to come in with ten thousand pages? And 401 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 7: I have to be clear to complain about this administration 402 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 7: about transparency. When this president takes open questions on a 403 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 7: daily basis, yet Joe Biden didn't show up a press 404 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 7: conferences six months is insane. These guys are being extremely transparent. 405 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 7: They don't have to sit there and take the questions, 406 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 7: but they do. That's all on the website. 407 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: It's all out there. 408 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 8: It's not transparency to say things that have no factual background. 409 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 8: I mean to say we're cutting you know, we've found 410 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 8: a billion dollars or trillion dollars in waste with no specifics. 411 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: That's just talk. 412 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 8: That's not transparent. 413 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 7: It's twenty three days in here, twenty three days you 414 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 7: were you were you were talking about two point three 415 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 7: billion that was saved last year. These guys are saving 416 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 7: two point three billion a day. 417 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 8: But no, well that's what It's incredible, that's what they're saying. 418 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: But where's the game. 419 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: You're waiting. 420 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 7: You're not going to be satisfied till he shows up 421 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: at ten thousand pages. 422 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: I know. 423 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 7: He's giving very specific thing. 424 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 4: But he's not actually giving any evidence of that. 425 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 7: It's all going to come because what they also said 426 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 7: was if we have to go to Congress, we'll go 427 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 7: to Congress. 428 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: Right. 429 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: But the show where some of the details that have 430 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: come out, like the you know, fifty nine million dollars 431 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: spent on luxury hotels, it's actually not the thing. 432 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 7: About the FEMA money that was used for migrants. That 433 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 7: was FEMA money for migrants. That's okay. 434 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: Now no I'm not saying it, so I'm not saying 435 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: it's okay. 436 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: Don't put word So would you stop that? 437 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 7: Would you stop that process? Don't be a dick. 438 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: The portrayal what I'm saying is the portrayal by him is. 439 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: I just got to say, I this is from my 440 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: my seven years and how it's CNN. When the host 441 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: start cursing at you, don Lemon lost it on me 442 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: one night, screaming that that is BS, that is BS, 443 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: but saying the full thing. When you see Anderson Cooper 444 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: get rattled like this, this is when you know they're 445 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: losing America and they feel it, and they're witnessing it 446 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: because they're part of this cover up center. And now 447 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: they realize how stupid their argument is that, well, we 448 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: didn't see a piece of paper with it on there. 449 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: What you think Eoon Musk is sitting there making this 450 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: up in the Oval office, like, what's wrong with you guys? 451 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, you guys never question anything that 452 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: was shady with the Biden administration when you knew it 453 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: was shady. 454 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 455 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: Look, number one, you see Jeffrey Tube and jumping in 456 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: screaming that's not transparency. Trump is literally doing a press 457 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: conference every day. They're putting all of this out for 458 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: everyone to see. They're giving chapter and verse and specifics 459 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: and and and and you see Anderson Cooper at the 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: end where he just curses and and and melts down 461 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: and insults a governor. 462 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean to me, wow. 463 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: To be clear that that is the reason Anderson Cooper 464 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: does that is he realizes he's in a completely indefensible position. 465 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: He's defending the prior administration diverting funds from FEMA. By 466 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: the way, funds that FEMA are supposed to use to 467 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: deal with a natural disaster, whether wildfires in California or 468 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: a hurricane or tornadoes or other natural disaster. And the 469 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: prior administration took those disaster funds and instead use them 470 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: to pay for hotel rooms for illegal aliens. And Anderson 471 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 2: Cooper realized, wait a second, I'm defending something that is 472 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: so absurd that even the four viewers who are watching 473 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: CNN are going to know it's absurd. And that's why 474 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: he melts down. And I got to say, the fact 475 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: that President Trump is standing up and delivering real cuts, 476 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: that is taking on this waste, fraud and abuse. The 477 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: fact that the fact that Anderson Cooper is melting down, 478 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: that shows President Trump is winning. That shows Elon Musk 479 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: is winning, and that shows the American people are winning. 480 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 481 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 482 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the 483 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 484 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: story number three of the week you may have missed. 485 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: I want to move to USAID and some of the 486 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: big issues that are now coming out of that, and 487 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: it deals also with the issue of terrorism. We got 488 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: some shocking news that has come out. It's something, by 489 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: the way, that I think we need to point out 490 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: very clearly. You had been talking about this now for 491 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: several years in Congress and on this show. Yeah, and 492 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: thank goodness, now at least all of it seems to 493 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: be being exposed because of the digging with Doge and 494 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the Trump administration back in office. 495 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, there was a lengthy tweet that I sent this 496 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: week that said the following. The full story of USAID 497 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: funding HAMAS is vast, and much of it was done 498 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: in secret. Before and after October seventh, the USAID flowed 499 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: unaccountable hundreds of millions of dollars towards HAMAS that enabled 500 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: it to launch the attack and keep backing Israel afterwards. 501 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: They lied about the nature of that aid in public databases, 502 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: refused to disclose what groups were getting the money, and 503 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: gave tens of millions in American cash to be distributed 504 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: without American supervision. They internally admitted the aid would benefit 505 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: HAMAS and even exempted themselves from anti terrorism laws, but 506 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: in public issued denial for all four years of the 507 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: Biden administration, I prevented them from confirming a Middle East 508 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: Administrator because they wouldn't acknowledge what they were doing because 509 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: continuing their secret pro Hamas programs was more important to them. 510 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you there was a major article in 511 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: the Washington Free Beacon that I tweeted out as well, 512 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: and it's an article my team and I provided a 513 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: significant amount of the information to the Washington Free Beacon. 514 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: But it's entitled at USAID funding for terroritied groups, an 515 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 2: internal hostility towards Israel goes back years. One former State 516 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: Department official described a lack of embarrassment among some USAID 517 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 2: staffers about being associated with terrorist organization. And I'm going 518 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 2: to read from the beginning of this article because it's 519 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: an important article and the fact Senate are very disturbing. 520 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: As the Trump administration works to shutter the United States 521 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: Agency for International Development USAID, Current and former US officials 522 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: who work closely with the unbattled AID group say they 523 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: watched for years as it funneled millions of dollars to 524 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: anti Israel advocacy groups and entities linked to terrorism. That 525 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: funding caused internal friction across multiple administrations, according to those 526 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: who spoke with the Washington Free Beacon in some cases, 527 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: USAID fought to conceal how taxpayer funds were spent, and 528 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: when it came to Israel, officials recalled battling USAID over 529 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: funding for groups that worked to undermine the Jewish State 530 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: or maintain ties to terror organizations. 531 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Quote. 532 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: For those who believe in a strong US Israel relationship, 533 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: elements of USAID had been problematic for years, said one 534 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: former State Department official who worked with USAID during the 535 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: Biden administration. 536 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Quote. 537 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: There was even a lack of embarrassment among some USAID 538 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: staffers about being associated with terrorist organizations. Some of the 539 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: terrortied funding initiatives are publicly known. In November twenty twenty two, 540 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: for instance, USAID awarded one hundred thousand dollars to a 541 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: Palestinian activist group whose leaders hailed the Popular Front for 542 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: the Liberation of Palestine a designated terror group. Just six 543 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: days before Hamasa's October seventh assault on Israel, USAID handed 544 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand dollars to a terror charitor charity in 545 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Gaza involved with the son of Hamas leader Ismail Hanaye. 546 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: USAID's hostilities towards the Jewish State, however, ran deeper than 547 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: the agency's grant making under Samantha Power, former President Joe 548 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: Biden's pick to run USAID, Agency, officials fought pro Israel 549 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: policy making at the State Department, often urging their colleagues 550 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: at Foggy Bottom to pare down statements that praised the 551 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: Jewish state. Former official said in twenty twenty one, during 552 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: a period of conflict with Hamas, Power herself refused to 553 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: meet with Israel's ambassador unless Israel reached a cease fire 554 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: with the Iran backed terror group. The decision put Power 555 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: at odds with the White House National Security Council, which 556 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: signed off on the meeting. Emails obtained by the Freebeacon Show. 557 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: It is shocking to hear you read that, and yet 558 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: it's so well documented. It's something that you and sound 559 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: the alarm on for a while. Now, because of a 560 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: new administration, we're actually getting some movement on this. But 561 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: how angry should Americans be that their tax dours have 562 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: been going to terrorist organizations through these funnel through these 563 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: charities and other groups. And there were warnings, meaning that 564 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the government, Biden, Harris and their team, they knew the 565 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: money was ending up with these people. This wasn't a 566 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: one office. Wasn't an accident. This was deliberate. 567 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, they knew it and they actively hit it. Let 568 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: me read a little more from this Freebeacon article. A 569 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: January memo from the Inspector General Paul Martin noted that 570 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: the agency quote does not maintain a comprehensive internal database 571 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: of sub awardees. In other words, the foreign entities that 572 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: work with a primary grantee on a USAID project often 573 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: go unreported, impeding the ability of the agency investigators to 574 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: vet fraud allegations. According to the memo, such allegations often 575 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: include the diversion of taxpayer funded aid to terrorist organizations. 576 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: In a November report, for example, Martin quote identified deliberate 577 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: interference and efforts to divert humanitarian assistance by foreign terrorist organizations, 578 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: including systemic coercion of aid workers by ftos foreign terrorist organizations, 579 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: and FTO influence over beneficiary selection. These diversion efforts are 580 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: particularly pronounced in Hamas controlled Gaza. A February report from 581 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: the Middle East Forum think tank found that the USAID 582 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: had awarded millions of dollars to organizations directly in Gaza 583 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: controlled by Hamas. Let me read that again. A February 584 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: report from the Middle East Forum think tank found that 585 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: USAID had awarded millions of federal dollars to organizations directly 586 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: in Gaza controlled by Hamas, and it continues. In one 587 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: bideneric case, USAID funded an educational and community center in 588 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: Gaza controlled by a local group called the Unlimited Friends Association. 589 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: The association openly collaborated with HAMAS, inviting the terror group's 590 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: officials to its office and boasting of US funded projects 591 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: in HAMAS controlled newspapers. In twenty twenty one, its director 592 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: called for Jerusalem to be cleansed. Quote from the impurity 593 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: of the Jews. This is who Joe Biden and the 594 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: Democrats were sending millions of dollars to, and this is 595 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: who they were covering it up. 596 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: Not only were they covering it up, but this has 597 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: a USAID has a long history that's now well documented 598 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: of them helping radicals. And one of the things you 599 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: and I talked about before the show was another just 600 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: totally insane aspect of this, and that included paying for 601 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: terrorists college funds. 602 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: Well, that is exactly right, and it is a stunning story. 603 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: So this is something that's been reported in Fox News 604 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: and The New York Post. Here's what the New York 605 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 2: Post said, USAID reportedly bankrolled al Qaeda terrorist college tuition. 606 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: Unearthed record showed USAID American bord jahattist anwar all Illachi 607 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: received full funding to attend Colorado State University in nineteen ninety. 608 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: USAID documents obtained by Fox News showed, now who is 609 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: on We're all Laki. He is a notorious terrorist, so 610 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: notorious that President Barack Obama ordered him killed in a 611 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: US air strike in Yemen twenty years later. The document 612 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: revealed that al Alaki, who was born in Las Cruces, 613 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: New Mexico, lied on his application and claimed that he 614 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: was born in Yemen, apparently so he would be eligible 615 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: for the federal tuition funding worth more than twenty seven 616 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: thousand dollars at the time. That was nineteen ninety Tuition 617 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: and fees for an international student at the university today 618 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: would be nearly ten times that. Using the education USAID 619 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: provided him, he earned a bachelor's and civil engineering in 620 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four. Alilachi would go on to teach Islam 621 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 2: at mosques across the country, from Denver to San Diego 622 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: and Virginia, where US officials believe he used his platform 623 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: to radicalize and recruit terrorists and understand Alilachi is directly 624 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: implicated in number one. At the San Diego Mosque, he 625 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: met the nine to eleven hijackers Nawaf al Hazmi and 626 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: Khalid al Midhar, two of the men who flew Flight 627 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: seventy seven into the Pentagon on nine to eleven, and 628 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: he was arrested in two thousand and six for his 629 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: terrorist ties in Yemen, and three years later anweil Allachi 630 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: communicated with Nadal Hassan, who murdered fourteen innocent souls at 631 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: Fort Hood onwile Ololachi was also tied to the underwear 632 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 2: bomber Umar Farouk Abda Matullab, who tried to blow up 633 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: a Detroit bound Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas Day two 634 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: thousand and nine with bombs hidden in his shorts. This 635 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: is who USI aid, said, you know what, we're going 636 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 2: to pay for you to get a college degree. What 637 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: in the hell are these people doing? 638 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: So the question that I got to ask finally on 639 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: this to wrap it up, and people that are listening 640 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: and say, number one, how did this a happen? But 641 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: even more so How are people not going to jail 642 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: for knowingly giving American taxpayer dollars to terrorists. I mean, 643 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: if you are working in our government, even if it's 644 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: under the direction of the Biden Harris regime at the time, 645 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: and you're sending out money that you know is going 646 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: to terrorists around the world, is that not like breaking 647 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: some law? 648 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: Senator, Well, look, that's a question that I think is 649 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 2: going to have to be investigated and examined. I will say, 650 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: US anti terrorism laws prohibit sending money that goes to terrorism, 651 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 2: And in fact, the Biden administration made a formal assessment 652 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: and they concluded that sending the money to Gaza that 653 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: it was very likely that money would be used by 654 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: Hamas for terrorism. Now, ordinarily, when you make that determination 655 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: under American anti terrorism law, you don't send the money. 656 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: You can't send the money once you determine that it's 657 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 2: likely it'll go to terrorism. However, the way the law 658 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: is written, the president has the authority to waive that provision. 659 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they did because they made a 660 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: determination that their radical politics were more important than stopping 661 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: terrorists from murdering American citizens and murdering Israeli citizens, and 662 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: tragically the entire world saw the consequences of that radicalism 663 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: on October seventh. 664 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Do you think there will be any accountability for this 665 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: or is this going to be another one of those 666 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: where hey, we were in charge, so we get we 667 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: got away with it. 668 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: Look, I certainly hope there will be accountability, but at 669 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: a minimum, we're seeing accountability in President Trump and Elon 670 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: Musk shutting down these programs at USAI D. I think 671 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: that is very good. And my hope and expectations is 672 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: that Congress will come along and we will pass legislation, 673 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: presumably as a part of budget reconciliation later this year 674 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 2: to codify these cuts and and eliminate the waste, fraud, abuse. 675 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: And Senator you mentioned, you know, the corruption and in 676 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: what the president's starting to clean it up. As always, 677 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Verdict with Center Ted Cruz 678 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal with my podcast, 679 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: and you can listen to my podcast every other day 680 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you 681 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to have you as 682 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, and we 683 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: will see you back here on Monday morning.