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Speaker 1: Cameron Wolf will be here to tell you the latest

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Speaker 1: from Miami ahead of a Thanksgiving night showdown with the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are still alive in the playoff picture ahead of

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Speaker 2: The only reason.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy might have more time left in Dallas than

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Speaker 1: you think. Here Jerry Jones thoughts about doling out another

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Speaker 1: But Judy Matista has a wake up call you won't

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Speaker 1: Welcome in with the Insiders, presented by Progressive Insurance alongside

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista and Mike Garafolo. I am Tom Pelisero. We

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Speaker 1: twelve wrapped up last night. I think in very fun fashion,

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Speaker 1: we will talk about the horble during the course of

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Speaker 1: this show. We'll get all a look at all the

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Speaker 1: big matchups, especially on Thanksgiving Day. But first a very

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Speaker 2: Playoffs. Don't talk about it, playoffs, You kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Playoffs. I just hope we can win a game.

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Speaker 1: Twenty third anniversary one of the great rans in NFL

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Speaker 1: history from Jim Mora And yes, Jim, we're talking about playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Bills and Chiefs can wrap up their playoff burst.

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Speaker 2: How about the Chiefs there?

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Speaker 1: The Bills Red could already clinch the AFC East with

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Speaker 2: The Lions have a slightly more cup path. I'll be there.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that's crazy at all. That's not crazy.

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Speaker 5: And listen to Mike mccross one an outstanding coach. I

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Speaker 4: Matt mccarth' he has been there, done that, He's got

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Speaker 6: This morning, Jones said it wouldn't be crazy for you

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Speaker 2: While are you laughing crazy?

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Speaker 7: You know about your your future and that.

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Speaker 1: Nothing else Mike can really do at this point, Jerry's

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Speaker 8: Look it starts with Lamar Jackson, obviously. But the thing

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Speaker 8: This is what's gonna make people say, you know what,

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Speaker 9: Well, the Chargers are an a sending team right They

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Speaker 9: They need more playmakers, they need more receivers. Obviously they

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Speaker 4: Eight Yarderi is up.

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Speaker 3: He missed it. He missed it. It's an empty trip.

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Speaker 12: Santo's kicks with his right foot.

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Speaker 2: Beat's blocked and.

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Speaker 12: It's picked up by Brian Assamoah who heads to the

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Speaker 8: I believe NFL research the number because I checked on

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Speaker 8: us for a front office view myself. Mike Garret follow here. Judy,

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Speaker 8: dinner we did to talk about teams need to wake

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Speaker 8: up right now, Judy, let's start with the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 8: who all of a sudden are not so hot as

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Speaker 3: In the year.

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Speaker 9: But something has gone off kilter for the Commander's offense,

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Speaker 9: But in weeks one through nine, his touchdown to interception

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Speaker 9: It happened against the Cowboys. Daniels himself said, you know,

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Speaker 9: They really couldn't get.

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Speaker 9: The schedule is manageable, but they do have to get

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Speaker 6: They got to get back to running the ball too, Judy,

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Speaker 6: They got to get back to running the ball, which

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Speaker 8: Judy, you've got incredibly high standards. Let's hear your your

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Speaker 9: It's specifically about their red zone offense. They're thirtieth in

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Speaker 9: Winning games by kicking field goals and leaning on that defense,

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Speaker 9: You can only lean on that so much. They entered

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Speaker 6: And the reason why I think they're struggling in the

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Speaker 6: So they have to figure out another way to manufacture points.

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Speaker 9: in that span, very unusual. He's down in every major category.

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Speaker 9: His average orge per passe attempt is down a full

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Speaker 3: He's down.

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Speaker 9: His accuracy is off. He said it himself. He is

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Speaker 9: just not playing to a standard. You see him, they're

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Speaker 2: He is just off.

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Speaker 9: They're going to make the playoffs because of the division

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Speaker 9: they're in, but they're not going to go much further

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Speaker 9: if c J. Stroud doesn't step it up one.

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Speaker 6: Hundred percent, right, Judy, We always have the positive surprises, Well,

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Speaker 6: this development was c J. Stroud maybe the most negative

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Speaker 6: last year, which is unheard of for a rookie. And

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Speaker 6: I just don't see the consistency. You still see the flashes,

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Speaker 6: to Jaydon Daniels where all that's coming together. He takes

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Speaker 6: playing well. But outside of that, so they got to

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Speaker 6: figure that out. As you said, Judy, at least they're

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Speaker 6: going to win their division, they're going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: But to beat the big guys, he's got to play

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Speaker 8: Stroud seems like he's getting some looks that are just

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Speaker 8: right now and maybe just maybe Tua Jordan Love, two

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Speaker 1: A look at the AFC playoff picture after the Ravens

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Speaker 1: win over the Chargers on Monday night, both those teams

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Speaker 1: sitting in the five to six slots respectively as wild cards.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the division, at least for the Ravens, still

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Speaker 1: very much in reach, especially after the Steelers lost to

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pilasero, now

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Speaker 1: joined by our Bridget Condon who was at that game

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Speaker 1: last night, and Bridget, I'm struck by the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're showing highlights with Mark Andrews, who was like the

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Speaker 1: invisible man early in the season, and just as Hill.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about JK. Dobbins and Za.

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Speaker 1: Flowers and some of the core parts that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in this offense. How dangerous can this Ravens o be?

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Speaker 13: Well, let's talk about what we learned last night, Tom.

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Speaker 13: I mean, Derek Henry didn't even score a touchdown, but

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Speaker 13: does it matter. He had one hundred and forty rushing yards.

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Speaker 13: And when he has more than one hundred yards this

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Speaker 13: season for the Ravens, they're six to oher. When he

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Speaker 13: and Lamar get going, it doesn't matter if he finds

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Speaker 13: an end zone, somebody is going to on that offense,

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Speaker 13: and they have been dominant in those situations. Plus, let's

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Speaker 13: talk about Lamar Jackson on Monday nights. You don't want

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Speaker 13: to play him on the first night of the week,

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Speaker 13: the work week because he has twenty two touchdowns and

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Speaker 13: no interceptions now in his career on Monday nights. The

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Speaker 13: Ravens did start out slow last night, though, and that

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Speaker 13: is going to be their achilles heel. They're gonna have

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Speaker 13: to figure out how to play consistent and how to

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Speaker 13: score points early, because it's going to be a dogfight

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Speaker 13: this weekend. You're talking Derrick Henry going up against Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 13: who are two of the best running backs of our

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Speaker 13: generation right now. If the Ravens start out slow the

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Speaker 13: way they did against the Bengals, that's going to be

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Speaker 13: tough to come back from against the Eagles this Sunday. Now,

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Speaker 13: let's talk about the Chargers because coming into this game,

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Speaker 13: they were the top scoring defense in the NFL. They

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Speaker 13: gave up over two hundred rushing yards. And I was

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Speaker 13: in that locker room after the game and I asked

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Speaker 13: Derwin James, what's the mo to the players right now?

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Speaker 13: And he said, everybody's frustrated, but they have something in

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Speaker 13: their eyes. They're eager to get out there. He said,

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Speaker 13: I want to go watch the film and get to

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Speaker 13: work right now. Khalil Mack said the same thing like

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Speaker 13: he is. It was eating him up. You could feel

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Speaker 13: it when talking to him. They just wanted to get

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Speaker 13: back out there and play. Of course, they could travel

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Speaker 13: across the country this weekend to face the Atlanta Falcons, who,

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Speaker 13: keep in mind, are coming off of bye week, so

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Speaker 13: they've been rested they've had extra time to study the Chargers.

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Speaker 13: But the Chargers have to figure it out because they're

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Speaker 13: just one in four this season against teams with a

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Speaker 13: record of five hundred or above.

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Speaker 3: It was a big test for.

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Speaker 13: Them Monday night, and this defense didn't do what we

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Speaker 13: thought that they would do against a really good offense.

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Speaker 13: I know they hadn't played great offenses so far this season,

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Speaker 13: only really the Bengals and Joe Burrow. But yeah, I

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Speaker 13: mean you saw it. I'm sure you saw my tweet

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Speaker 13: Khalil Mack talking about I want another chance at them.

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Speaker 13: Derrick Henry's not hard to play again, so it'll be

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Speaker 13: interesting if those two teams meet again in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Tom And for everyone who caught my tongue slipped there, yes,

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Speaker 1: I am aware.

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Speaker 2: JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is no longer on the Ravens. He is now

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Speaker 1: on the Chargers. Derrick Henry is the running back for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Bridget great breakdown. I will do better next time.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what Mike can.

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Speaker 8: Do this time. Though he said Aaron Jones instead of

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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers earlier in the show, he missed that one.

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Speaker 8: Maybe time now for the game flow talk about the

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Speaker 8: show Flow, talk about the game flow, just dumping it

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Speaker 8: all out. Game Flow presented by Progressive Insurance. Mark Ross

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Speaker 8: here to talk Ravens Chargers. Let's talk about the flow

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Speaker 8: of the game last night and the impact of one

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Speaker 8: of John Harball's more aggressive He's had some aggressive ones.

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Speaker 8: This is one of the more aggressive decisions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the game flow of the season, and

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Speaker 6: actually the game flow the last ten years. That was

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Speaker 6: the closest the team had been to its own goal

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Speaker 6: line going for and fourth and converting it in over

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Speaker 6: ten years. So that was aggressive and beyond aggressive. But

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Speaker 6: that really did change the flow of the game as

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Speaker 6: you saw right there. And then five plays later was

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Speaker 6: the Rashot Bateman beautiful touchdown throw and catch there and

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Speaker 6: then the aggressiveness they're really set the tone for the

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Speaker 6: rest of the game where he went for two more

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Speaker 6: fourth downs which led to another touchdown, but also when

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Speaker 6: he went for two after that touchdown as opposed to

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Speaker 6: kicking the extra points. So not only did the game

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Speaker 6: flow chains there on that particular drive, but it just

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Speaker 6: really set the tone for Harbor, like I'm the big

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Speaker 6: brother here, I'm just going to beat up on you.

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Speaker 6: Just be aggressive, like we were growing up in the

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Speaker 6: house and it paid off for the riments.

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Speaker 8: If anyone was still confused as the why John Harball

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Speaker 8: went for two up seven, it makes it a two

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Speaker 8: score game instead of Yeah, I understand you get the eight,

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Speaker 8: they have to go to the two point conversion. But

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Speaker 8: it's a lot different if you get it to a

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Speaker 8: two score game.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 8: I like it, John Harbor. I like the aggressiveness that

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Speaker 8: you showed last night. Mark Ross, thank you very much.

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Speaker 8: It's been your game flow the Week presented by Progressive

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Speaker 8: Insurance Judy. Yes, we checked that box. That was the expectation,

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Speaker 8: like we're flexing right now on who we are, okay,

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Speaker 8: and that's when you find out, not when everything's good,

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Speaker 8: but when teams go through tough times and we've responded

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Speaker 8: exactly like I thought we would.

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Speaker 14: It's a goof can feel them. We don't mean nothing

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Speaker 14: if you don't get this next one. This next one's everything.

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Speaker 14: It's miss get toughness. Thanks Stephen Football Prime Time. We

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Speaker 14: need this, We need this one. Whatever tanks with.

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Speaker 2: This guy tied that career hard today.

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Speaker 8: Man, get three tucks, all.

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Speaker 15: Right, man, I ain't gonna lot of y'all boys, brou

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Speaker 15: It has been an honor, bro, like coming here and

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Speaker 15: win it, Brian, and with your boys day in and

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Speaker 15: day out, trying to set that standards, set that culture.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate all, bro. Let's keep doing.

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, keep stagging back.

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Speaker 12: We said, quick turnaround, man, get ready.

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Speaker 3: For Thursday night.

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Speaker 9: Who wins Thanksgiving Night, Dolph Packers. This is the nightcap

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Speaker 9: to the Thanksgiving slate. Maybe you'll be having a nightcap

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Speaker 9: after Thanksgiving dinner watching this game. It's supposed to be

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Speaker 9: in the twenties. No snow though, Cam Wolfe, are you

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Speaker 9: going to be there? I hope you're bundled up if

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Speaker 9: you're going to be there, But before you go, I

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Speaker 9: want to ask you about this was a surprise today.

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Speaker 9: Shaq Barrett, who signed as a free agent in March,

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Speaker 9: then right before training camp opened, announced his retirement kind

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Speaker 9: of suddenly, and now he wants to unretire.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Judia, Yeah, Judya surprise indeed.

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Speaker 16: Mike me Daniel, the Dolphins head coach, told us this

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Speaker 16: morning he was caught off guard surprise as he learned

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Speaker 16: the news just around the same time we did that.

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Speaker 16: Shaq beartt intended to return and unretire, And it's worth

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Speaker 16: noting the Dolphins have shack Beart's rights. They signed him

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Speaker 16: to a one year deal worth up to nine million

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Speaker 16: dollars with decentives in March, and then he suddenly retired

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Speaker 16: right before training camp, and he cited family reasons in

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Speaker 16: that it is key to note that Barrett lost his daughter,

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Speaker 16: too year old daughter to drowning in April twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 16: unspeakable tragedy. And I'm told, according to a source, that

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Speaker 16: Barrett is willing to play now and wants to play

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Speaker 16: for the Dolphins. But it's also a quick pressure decision

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Speaker 16: for the Dolphins on a short week ahead of a

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Speaker 16: gig big game from the Packers. And I checked in

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Speaker 16: with the league about this. Barrett's deadline to return to play.

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Speaker 16: It's week thirteen, and so the Dolphins have to make

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Speaker 16: a decision by Thursday at four pm whether to accept

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Speaker 16: his return or to tell him no thanks. If they

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Speaker 16: tell him no thanks, he would remain on the retired

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Speaker 16: reserve list and be out for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 16: So it's just sort of a quick decision to make

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Speaker 16: ahead of a huge game for a team that needs

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Speaker 16: this one. On the three game winning streak, trying to

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Speaker 16: make a playoff push.

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Speaker 9: It's a huge game for both teams. Really, they are

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Speaker 9: both trying to make playoff pushes. What do you think

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Speaker 9: we're going to learn about Tua and the Packers this game?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I start with Tua. No quarterback more polarizing than Tua.

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Speaker 16: And he said this week, I'm ready to kill the narratives.

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Speaker 16: Let's go and let's talk about those narratives. Dolphins can't

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Speaker 16: be good teams. They haven't beat a team currently with

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Speaker 16: a running record this season. Their narratives are about them

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Speaker 16: struggling immensely in cold weather and on primetime. And so

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Speaker 16: they get the trifecta this week, a chance to knock down.

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Speaker 3: All those narratives.

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Speaker 16: Temperatures in the twenties Thursday night on Thanksgiving against a

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Speaker 16: very good Packers team, and Tua told us today he

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Speaker 16: won't wear a glove. He said playing in the playoffs

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Speaker 16: against the Kansas City Chiefs and sub zero temperatures told

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Speaker 16: them perspective on what true cold was. He also has

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Speaker 16: played incredible since returning from that concussion, seventy six percent

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Speaker 16: completion rating, eleven touchdowns to one interception. They've gone from

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Speaker 16: the worst offense in the league to one of the

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Speaker 16: best with him under center. And for Jordan Love, it's

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Speaker 16: about following and making his own legacy. We all know

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Speaker 16: Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers there in Green Bay. They

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Speaker 16: won a Super Bowl. He gets a chance to do

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Speaker 16: it his own way, and he's trying to lead this

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Speaker 16: team and learn balance. He talked this week about his

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Speaker 16: desire to always push envelope down the field, but this

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Speaker 16: year he's trying to find those easy completions. Only sat

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Speaker 16: ten times this year in nine games, fewest of any

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Speaker 16: quarterback in the league. And a fun nugget from his

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Speaker 16: Packers teammates, they want to get him a turkey leg.

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Speaker 16: Last year they won the game, the broadcast did not

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Speaker 16: have a turkey leg for him. They were upset about it.

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Speaker 16: They said, we got to get Jordan Love right. We

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Speaker 16: got to get him a turkey leg. They have to

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Speaker 16: win to do that. On Thursday night.

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Speaker 9: This is one of the three big games on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 9: cam Wolf, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Time now for ask the Aces presented by ACE Hardware

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Speaker 1: or ACE Tonight and always Jeffrey cheda with me.

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Speaker 2: Tom Pelisero here on.

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Speaker 1: The Insiders for two Days Away from a triple header

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, Jeffrey, So let's talk about what some of

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Speaker 1: these teams have to be thankful for. The Bears got

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Speaker 1: a lot of area to the grievances maybe for their

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Speaker 1: season so far.

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Speaker 2: But what should they be thankful for right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to give some perspective here.

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 17: They should be thankful that they have a lot more

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Speaker 17: time to get Caleb Williams right. I know it's been

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Speaker 17: a tough year, frustrating season, but he's only in year one.

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Speaker 17: You see the talents, you see the way he's played

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Speaker 17: the last couple of games with Thomas Brown calling plays

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Speaker 17: ever since Shane Walden was fired, there's upside there as well.

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Speaker 17: I really think in the offseason, whatever happened with Matt

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Speaker 17: Ebert Flus at the head coach, they've got to find

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Speaker 17: somebody to come in here who can help this quarterback

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Speaker 17: get better. I think about what Sean McVay did for

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Speaker 17: Jered Goff when he got to Los Angeles. If they

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Speaker 17: could make that happen for Kayleb Williams, this will end

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Speaker 17: up being a happy ending.

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Speaker 1: They got the Lions trying to avoid a third and

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Speaker 1: secutives Division loss on Thursday. Detroit probably is thankful just

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Speaker 1: that nobody's clamoring anymore for them to get kicked off Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: What else should they be thankful for?

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Speaker 17: Well, that Ben Johnson is still coaching their offense. I mean,

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Speaker 17: he could have been a head coach easily by now,

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Speaker 17: and you think about the opportunity he'll have this coming

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Speaker 17: off season. But his decision to stay in Detroit was

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Speaker 17: a huge one then, and you see.

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Speaker 3: How that's played out for them.

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Speaker 17: They've had an amazing offense, and offense that is, when

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Speaker 17: you think about it, is top six in both passing

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Speaker 17: and rushing, has square at least forty points four times

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Speaker 17: this year, at least fifty points twice, and this offense

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Speaker 17: has been the reason this team is thinking about winning

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Speaker 17: their first championship for their first Super Bowl in franchise history.

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Speaker 17: This guy is an amazing coordinator. He won't be around

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Speaker 17: much longer. It's a good thing he's still there.

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Speaker 1: Giants Cowboys is the later afternoon window on Thanksgiving again,

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Speaker 1: New York team that's probably got a lot of it'll

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Speaker 1: be more comfortable come festiv this time. But what should

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Speaker 1: they be thankful for?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, this is when the work the real work takes

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Speaker 17: in here, and it really they should be thankful that

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Speaker 17: the Daniel Jones era is over. I know that it's

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Speaker 17: an easy storyline to reach for here, but they hung

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Speaker 17: onto this one too long. They could have drafted a

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Speaker 17: quarterback and last year's draft of Michael Pennix and bow

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Speaker 17: Knicks were available. JJ McCarthy didn't go that route, could

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Speaker 17: have not resigned him a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 17: they went that route. It's finally time for them to

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Speaker 17: move on look for a new quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That is a good thing.

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Speaker 17: Look, they've still got the opportunity to turn things around

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Speaker 17: with this franchise, and having Daniel Jones be gone.

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Speaker 3: As the first is a really good start.

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Speaker 1: And how about those cowboys, Jeffery, what should they be

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Speaker 1: thankful for?

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Speaker 17: Well, once again, it's a harsh dose of reality there.

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Speaker 17: And look, I think that they've had three straight twelve

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Speaker 17: win seasons with Mike McCarthy there. They've got a lot

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Speaker 17: of star power with MICHAELH. Parsons, the Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 17: Dak Prescott. But this is the season when Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 17: that man has to really take a hard look at

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Speaker 17: his team and say, what can we do to really

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00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 17: get better. They got to make some tough choices about contracts,

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Speaker 17: some tough choices about how to make that defense better.

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Speaker 17: The offense, even even before Dak Prescott got hurt, was

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Speaker 17: an EPT, did not have the skill positions nailed down

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Speaker 17: in the way that they would have hoped. So I

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Speaker 17: think that they've got to do a rebuild now.

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Speaker 3: That's what Jerry Jones is looking at.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of expensive players be part of that rebuild,

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Speaker 1: and you got another looming contract situation with Michael Parsons

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Speaker 1: next year. Definitely a lot to dive into for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in the coming months.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash first read for more from our ace.

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Speaker 1: There's a game on Black Friday too. I forgot that

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Speaker 1: earlier today when I tweeted something about them playing on Sunday. No,

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Speaker 1: it's on Friday. Patrick Mahomes, Max Crosby a lot more

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Speaker 1: on that matchup next and the Insiders, presented by Progressive Insurance.

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Speaker 8: Good news, Black Friday Football on Prime is back. Even

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Speaker 8: better news, you don't have to wait in line starting.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday to see it.

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Speaker 8: It's Max Crosby and the Raiders against Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: And the Chiefs.

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Speaker 8: Friday, three pm Eastern only on Prime Video. I mentioned

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Speaker 8: Prime Video because income Sam Schwarstein Prime Video and Thursday

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Speaker 8: Night Football. Thursday Night Football is analytics expert to use

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Speaker 8: next gen stats to preview the Black Friday Football Division

786
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Speaker 8: matchup Raiders against the Chiefs. Do we get paid by

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Speaker 8: the plug because I just dropped a get out?

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 8: Okay, that sucks, Sam. The Chiefs are ten to one,

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Speaker 8: but the plus fifty two point differential ranks eleventh. How

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Speaker 8: are they managing to still win all these games?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, they don't call it third and mahomes for nothing

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 18: on third to three plus, That's what football guys will

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Speaker 18: tell you. That's really where quarterback earns his stripes. And

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Speaker 18: nobody's better in the NFL than Mahomes at that spot.

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Speaker 18: So when you look at success rate, which is how

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Speaker 18: often are you getting the job done on third and

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Speaker 18: three plus, which is pretty much converting, he is a

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Speaker 18: fifty six percent success rate. The NFL average is thirty

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Speaker 18: eight percent. In the same scenarios, he's able to push

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Speaker 18: the ball deeper. He has a fifteen percent scramble rate,

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Speaker 18: which is the number one in the NFL. He's able

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Speaker 18: to utilize such a different part of the field, and

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Speaker 18: no matter what happens on first or second down, you

806
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 18: can always trust Patrick to convert for you on third.

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Speaker 8: Who is sack Patrick Mahomes more than anybody? Use the

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Speaker 8: context clues people, it is Max Crosby. He also likes

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Speaker 8: to touch Mahomes and Mahomes like the st I know

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Speaker 8: what you're doing, but please don't just you know. What

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Speaker 8: makes Crosby stand out amongst the pass rushers in this league.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, other than he might be the most prolific trash

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Speaker 18: talker and then guy who will handshake you right after

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Speaker 18: trash talking.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like to come off the field.

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Speaker 18: He is the NFL's iron man on defensive line since

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Speaker 18: Tom Landry came to the Cowboys years ago.

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Speaker 3: If we're running defensive line.

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Speaker 18: By committee, that does not happen in Las Vegas because

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Speaker 18: Max Crosby does not come off the field.

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Speaker 3: He has seven complete games this season. Amongst all other d.

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Speaker 18: Linemen combined, there have been three complete games. Max Crosby

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Speaker 18: will come after Mahomes on each and every down. That's

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Speaker 18: what make them so much different than everyone else.

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Speaker 8: When it comes to the numbers. The analytics all that stuff.

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Speaker 8: It's got to be awesome to see what they show

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Speaker 8: you about my guy, Spags Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo.

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Speaker 8: What do the numbers bear out with regard to what

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Speaker 8: makes his defense so unique?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, other than talking about analytics on Black

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Speaker 18: Friday football, their job is trying. My other job is

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Speaker 18: trying to make those AI models what the teams will do,

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Speaker 18: whether it's defensive alerts, predicting blitzers or coverage ID trying

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Speaker 18: to figure out for its.

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Speaker 2: Man is oon man.

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Speaker 18: I'm not looking forward to Steve Spagnola making those models

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Speaker 18: not look good. He makes it tough on not just

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Speaker 18: quarterbacks but models every which way he's trying.

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Speaker 17: To do it.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the most unique things is he's got.

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Speaker 18: The third highest blitz rate, but he blitzes, which means

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Speaker 18: bringing five or more rushers with split safeties twenty percent

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Speaker 18: of the time.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't be able to do that.

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Speaker 18: All my former offensive line center notes say, hey, they

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Speaker 18: have to bring down a safety to cover that up.

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Speaker 3: Nope.

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Speaker 18: He will find ways to stay in those two high

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Speaker 18: shelves while also bringing pressure.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 8: If you want more of this, first of all, follow

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Speaker 8: Sam on x He's an excellent follow there, and you

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Speaker 8: can watch him on Black Friday Foot Black Friday Football.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it out Prime Vision with next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 8: Alternate Stream Friday's coverage of the Raiders at the Chiefs

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Speaker 8: on Prime Video and NFL Plus begins at one thirty

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Speaker 8: pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Zureo Sugar Rookie of the Week nominees are out. You

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Speaker 1: can cast your votes at NFL dot com slash Rookies.

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Speaker 1: Will Jaden Daniels win for like the tenth time already

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Speaker 1: this season? Good seeing guys like Jarvis Brownlee Junior sneaking

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Speaker 1: into the mix as well. A lot of those guys

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Speaker 1: up there were high picks in this past year's draft.

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Speaker 1: We'll be drafted top ten right now, and this is

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Speaker 1: based on the strength of schedule of games that have

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Speaker 1: actually happened. Count a whole lot of quarterback needy teams

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Speaker 1: up there at the top, Judy, including the team that's

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Speaker 1: in the number one spot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you are a Giants fan and you don't

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Speaker 9: regularly watch college football, it's time to start watching college

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Speaker 9: football and looking at the top quarterbacks. But I'm also

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Speaker 9: amazed at how many teams are bunched up there. How

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Speaker 9: quickly that could all change.

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Speaker 8: When I covered the Giants on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 8: it was rare that, like, oh, you got to be

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Speaker 8: at the Giants to cover the draft. Feels like we're

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Speaker 8: there every single year now, and it looks like that's

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Speaker 8: going to be the case again this upcoming offspring.

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Speaker 1: A lot of football left, nobody's taking, nobody's trying to lose.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes just are going to lose more than others. All Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll see tomorrow. Everybody