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Speaker 1: the craziest true stories on Earth. I'm John and Sophia

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Speaker 1: is OP the A hole for not talking to their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, work on that. Not with the AI.

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Speaker 2: I think you can either talk to a therapist or

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Speaker 1: Well if you if you do both, If you talk

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Speaker 1: AI is telling you it's like you need.

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Speaker 2: To open up about your emotions and also give me

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, great advice. And this story comes from aware

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Speaker 1: aside six two four nine, who says, oh no, so no,

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Speaker 2: Ooh no, that's not healthy.

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Speaker 1: That's not good.

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Speaker 1: She also struggles with severe anxiety and depression, so I

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you both have anxiety and it's not. Yeah, yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you do need to work on and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to have a conversation about hopping these conversations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we need to have conversations about conversations. Surprisingly very useful. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Red Fly Red Red, you should ever be upset that

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Speaker 2: We should after do chat gibt and say like, I'm

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Speaker 1: Ooh found something in the journal. Yeah, I wonder. I

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Speaker 3: Oops we have destroyed these these great creationis she just

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Speaker 1: You know what. I don't believe this, but we're tinfoil conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: Also, in the meantime, I've actually formed a pretty deep

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you cannot develop a deep relationship with an AI.

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Speaker 3: Cool, you can't display emotion through text across the world.

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Speaker 2: I still think it's weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's weird, but like you should be able

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, what what's his AI saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you know, crazy to find out.

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Speaker 1: Riley is deeply passionate about this story. I hate this

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Speaker 2: This is literally the plot of her No, I haven't

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Speaker 1: I can't know, but I must You're an I'm a man.

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Speaker 1: Not and would love to know where it's going to

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Speaker 3: Real quick Can I get twenty bucks?

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Speaker 1: Twenty bucks? Yes, Riley is showing.

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Speaker 2: That this is what he's falling in love with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh okay, now that's.

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Speaker 2: Our next video though, Okay, us going on to replica.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's a good one. Ye, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: So don't buy it yet, Okay, my god, like we're

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but like it's a website. You create an

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Speaker 1: So that's important context because this is like kind of

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Speaker 2: About AAI companion who cares?

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Speaker 2: Designed to literally make you think that it cares for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can like create it like I already created.

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Speaker 1: Reviews for Replica and a subreddit are full of this

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Speaker 2: Yikes. I was like, you know what he's like learning,

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Speaker 1: Was so good. I couldn't help but fall in love

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Speaker 3: The sexual bucks can talk to you, bro, then like,

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Speaker 2: But you can't create an emotional bond with someone who's

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Speaker 1: Your selfishness and like ego and like all those things,

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Speaker 2: You're telling me, yeah, literally though, you're telling me that

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Speaker 1: I just get virtual sandwiches whenever I want.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's that's weird. And I think I think up

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Speaker 2: I don't think you could make it illegal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not yet.

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Speaker 2: It'll be too late. I agree, because I was gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But right now, I don't think, like, I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because because like the robots will happen, and then

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Speaker 2: The mindset around how to treat a woman like that,

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Speaker 2: is bad, Like I think everyone is attracted to someone, Yeah,

440
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Speaker 2: but like for that like to I think it does

441
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Speaker 2: change dating. Yes, I think it takes away the face

442
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: to face elements already.

443
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just headed to the AI. Yeah, apocalypse.

444
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think I think it's going to severely

445
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: impact dating.

446
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: Dang, sounds like you should do a Friday special and

447
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: talk about it.

448
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 2: No, I think I am going to talk about replica.

449
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that.

450
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or should what should I talk about? Should I

451
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: just talk about Replica? Or should I talk.

452
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: About AI SEXU robots or AI relationships?

453
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Like AI relationships?

454
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Speaker 1: It might be. Yeah, there's like the core of the

455
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: ideas is incredible. Yeah, it's like, what's the It could be?

456
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: It could be.

457
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Speaker 2: I I really I created uh an AI partner.

458
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: Ah, start on that, go yeah, and I AI partner.

459
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: That's true. But then you know what, I want to fall.

460
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Speaker 2: In love with this next story, This next story nine o'clock.

461
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Speaker 2: Wife wanted open marriage after I started dating. She wants

462
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Speaker 2: to add more rules. What would you do in my position?

463
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Speaker 2: This is okayop, home to the craziest true stories on Earth.

464
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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia and John Median.

465
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Speaker 1: So the wife wanted the open relationship and now wants

466
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Speaker 1: to add more rules. This is the classic of the

467
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Speaker 1: reverse scenario.

468
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Speaker 2: We see a lot of the ververse Yeah, where.

469
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Speaker 1: The guy is like, babe, we got to open it up,

470
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Speaker 1: like you doing that a dangerous. It's dangerous both ways.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got to be really certain that

472
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Speaker 2: you want to do that on both sides. I think

473
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Speaker 2: both sides have to.

474
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Speaker 1: Be like, yes, this person is just trying to cheat

475
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Speaker 1: with a pass. Usually that that's the case.

476
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know very healthy polyamorous relationships

477
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Speaker 2: and open relationships, and I know very unhealthy ones.

478
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Speaker 3: Well, you know people that are in like healthy I.

479
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Speaker 2: Have a lot of friends who are in very healthy,

480
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Speaker 2: like polyamorous relationships.

481
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Speaker 1: Dude, when I was in the Bay, a ton of

482
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Speaker 1: polyamorys relationship.

483
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Speaker 2: It's very common. It's just about communication.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I think, like you said, being very.

485
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Speaker 2: Very you have to be very enthusiastic about like going

486
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Speaker 2: into that.

487
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Speaker 4: That's crazy, Like you cannot like if someone is hesitant. No,

488
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Speaker 4: are the calendars involved? Do your friends have calendars? I

489
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Speaker 4: have not asked them, like what days they're going to

490
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Speaker 4: be with one another.

491
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Speaker 1: We should have some a polyamorous couple on at some point.

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Speaker 1: Ideally one of you call for for zero five six

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Speaker 1: five six seven.

494
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Speaker 2: But Sophia, what is a so throw our agent? Zero

495
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Speaker 2: zero zero says two and a half years ago, my

496
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Speaker 2: wife Sarah thirty six female asked me, thirty eight male,

497
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Speaker 2: to open our marriage. She strongly implied the alternative was divorce.

498
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Speaker 2: After thinking it through, I said yes, primarily because we

499
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Speaker 2: do have two children. I worked long hours, and divorce

500
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Speaker 2: sounded horrible, so I set up some ground rules. Not

501
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Speaker 2: bringing dates into our house, no dating, mutual friends, acquaintances,

502
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Speaker 2: family members, colleagues, keeping things private okay. For the next

503
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Speaker 2: two years, I focused on my job and on my kids.

504
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Speaker 2: I worked long hours. In the little free time I had,

505
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Speaker 2: I devoted to my kids. I didn't have time for dating,

506
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Speaker 2: so I wasn't even trying. I moved to another room

507
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Speaker 2: because the thought of Sarah having sex with another man

508
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Speaker 2: than sleeping in my bed felt horrible. Our relationship became

509
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Speaker 2: purely transactional. We became partners at raising kids. I didn't

510
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Speaker 2: want to know anything about our sex life. This seems

511
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Speaker 2: like it did not improve the matter.

512
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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's not going so well.

513
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Speaker 2: Sounds like it's not going though. This summer, I managed

514
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Speaker 2: to fulfill my financial goals. I do not have any

515
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Speaker 2: debt whatsoever. Both of my kids have enough money and

516
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Speaker 2: their college fund, and all I have to do is

517
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Speaker 2: to keep adding some savings every month into the fund

518
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Speaker 2: I made for their first home to pot you know, wow,

519
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: for the kids first home deposits.

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Speaker 1: Oh snap yeahs Earlier producer Riley just pulled up a

521
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Speaker 1: thing that says, while being in an open relationship can

522
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Speaker 1: be warning, it takes a lot of work. Some research

523
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Speaker 1: indicates that open relationships have only an eight percent success right.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you have to be super on board.

525
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Speaker 1: You gotta be ready.

526
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Speaker 2: You got to be ready. So I did some math

527
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Speaker 2: and decided to cut my work from seventy four hours

528
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Speaker 2: to just thirty per week. Sarah wanted to get indebted

529
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Speaker 2: again to buy another house and a new car. I said, no,

530
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Speaker 2: they need to split.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wait, wait divorce. Oh sorry, we just totally left

532
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Speaker 1: all in the back then.

533
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Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm divorcing from this podcast. I use my free

534
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Speaker 2: time to finally have a vacation I really needed. Took

535
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Speaker 2: older some with me to tour us together, did some

536
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: renovation work on our house, turned basement into mancave. Yeah,

537
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: started working out, playing sports, leading a healthier life. Then

538
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: I actually started trying to land a date for me.

539
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: Just having sex with somebody is not my thing. I

540
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Speaker 2: want to at least be a friend before that, to

541
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Speaker 2: go out together, watch movies, have fun, and have sex.

542
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Speaker 2: So I dated a couple of women and found a

543
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Speaker 2: Jane with whom I clicked, not a Jane such as

544
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Speaker 2: a tibo. With Jane, I was going out to concerts,

545
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: art galleries, comic cons, movies and we would boint.

546
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Speaker 1: Too oooh so cultd.

547
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Speaker 2: So saucy Sarah wanted to talk about my dates. I

548
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: said no. Then I caught Sarah snooping through my phone

549
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: and we had a very strongly worded argument. Now Sarah

550
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Speaker 2: wants to update the terms of our open marriage. She

551
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Speaker 2: wants us to repair our marriage by going to a counselor.

552
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Speaker 2: She wants us to sleep in the same room, to

553
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Speaker 2: go outside and have fun together or outside of marriage.

554
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Speaker 2: Relationships are to be strictly sexual and nothing else, and

555
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: we are to talk about our sexual partners. I told

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Speaker 2: her that I am content with the situation as it is,

557
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Speaker 2: and I don't mind if she finds a partner to

558
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Speaker 2: go out with. I encouraged her to, and I don't

559
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: want to talk about our partners. She is holding her

560
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: ground at this point. I'm split between trying to fix

561
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Speaker 2: our marriage and handing her the divorce papers. I need advice. Guys.

562
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Speaker 1: All right, well, Sophia, can we can you give us

563
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Speaker 1: some advice here.

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Speaker 2: I understand that it's like hypocritical for her to be like, hey,

565
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: like I want to change the rules.

566
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

567
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: However, I think at this point neither of you wanted

568
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: to fix the marriage. And then she's come back and

569
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: being like, I want to fix the marriage, and if

570
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Speaker 2: you don't go along with it, then, like I think

571
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Speaker 2: the other option is split splitting up.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely sounds like they need to get divorced.

573
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Speaker 1: It sounds to me like the wife is just trying

574
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Speaker 1: to get all of the pros out of being married. Yeah,

575
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Speaker 1: and as soon as an OPI, what it was OPI

576
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Speaker 1: for year for a few years was like working, Yeah,

577
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: so she'd't have any time.

578
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

579
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Speaker 1: So this is really the first time that he has

580
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: found another partner and now she's like that. To me,

581
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Speaker 1: I always hate that. Yeah, when they're like, no, oh,

582
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: let's rewrite.

583
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: It, I think I think they should have gotten Like

584
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Speaker 2: I understand being like, well, this is the only way

585
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: to fix our relationship, or like thinking that's the only

586
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: way to fix the relationship. But you can't like coerce

587
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: someone into doing it, which is kind of what Opie

588
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: makes it seem like. She made it clear that the

589
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: only other option was divorce, which this is kind of

590
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Speaker 2: coercion into it.

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Speaker 1: There's there's like a way to go about it where

592
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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, let me bring this to the table.

593
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Speaker 1: Let's like see if we can come to a common

594
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Speaker 1: ground that we both feel good with.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to be like, here are the

596
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: issues that I'm seeing, and like how do we fix them?

597
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: And then being like, would you like consider opening the

598
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: marriage as an option? Yeah, because I don't think you

599
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: can be like it's open marriage or divorce.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like you're starting a potentially great relationship.

601
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: Because I think they should at this point. It doesn't

602
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: seem like you can really save this marriage or like

603
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that either of you really wanted to other than maybe

604
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Speaker 2: for the children.

605
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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, just co parent, Yeah, which.

606
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Speaker 2: Honestly, which is already kind of what you're doing.

607
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: They're already there, you're already.

608
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Speaker 2: Doing let's be real, he they're aut a air. So yeah,

609
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: divorce or like split up for the time being. There

610
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: are some relevant comments. Opie replied to a comment that said,

611
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Speaker 2: but man, you were working seventy four hours per week

612
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: and spending your free time with the kids, to which

613
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 2: Opie said, after she decided to open our marriage, at

614
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Speaker 2: which point I pretty much focused on completing financial goals

615
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: as soon as possible. I was working longer hours before that,

616
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: but not that long, and I was finding time to

617
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: spend with Sarah. And then another comment says, now that

618
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: you have the free time, you're still choosing not to

619
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Speaker 2: see your wife. Opie says, I actually left her to

620
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: initiate that if she wished to, she didn't. Another comment says, so, yeah,

621
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: she probably just didn't estimate you'd be having full on

622
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: simultaneous relationships. Opie says, except I'm not having two simultaneous relationships.

623
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Speaker 2: Since Sarah decided to open our marriage, the two of

624
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Speaker 2: us didn't have any intimate moments. We didn't sleep together,

625
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: we didn't go outside together. After I switched to working

626
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: thirty hours, she didn't initiate to change anything. Our relationship

627
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: was co parenting under the same roof. Really, once I

628
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: started dating other women, she started stooping around. Once she

629
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: found out I was dating Jane, she wanted to change

630
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Speaker 2: the rules. Even then, she said nothing about closing the

631
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: relationship just changed only having sex outside of marriage, which

632
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: boils down to me not being able to have a

633
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Speaker 2: single intimate relationship. I think it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what say we?

635
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think.

636
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta gotta move on. It's already co parenting already,

637
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: and your wife just wants all of the benefits without

638
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Speaker 1: any of the repercussions. She's been able to go have

639
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: all these relationships for these past few years.

640
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, well you've been like doing a lot of

641
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: work outside of that, and then like, yeah, I think.

642
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Speaker 1: The second that you tried to do it, there might

643
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Speaker 1: I mean there might be one thing is like and

644
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: this is kind of like a subtext with every story.

645
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: You know, the authors probably paint themselves in a better light.

646
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: So maybe there's more going on beneath the surface.

647
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Speaker 2: But we can only go off what we're going.

648
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Speaker 1: We can only take it at face value, taking it

649
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Speaker 1: that Nah, it ain't it.

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Speaker 3: But like Sarah seems like a jealous person because I mean,

651
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Speaker 3: after he increase his work hour, she because I thought

652
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: that was the issue was the work, how many hours

653
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Speaker 3: he was working.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, even when he started working at thirty hours,

655
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Speaker 2: he was like I gave her a moment to kind

656
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: of initiate any sort of relationship with me. She didn't.

657
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but then as soon as Jane was around,

658
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Speaker 3: she got jealous. And maybe it sounds very toxic, and

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe she was hoping he would be jealous whenever

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Speaker 3: she was in another relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think any of Lee's stipulations, had they been said

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Speaker 2: like at the beginning, would have been fine. Like if

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Speaker 2: if she was like, I want an open marriage and

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Speaker 2: but like we can have sex and that's it, no

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Speaker 2: emotional that I would have been like, yeah, like totally,

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Speaker 2: like you set these boundaries beforehand, but like to do

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Speaker 2: it after the fact and then be like, well you

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Speaker 2: should have known or you know, like expecting that from

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Speaker 2: your partner but not actually telling them.

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Speaker 1: Moving the goalpost man, How how can I win? I now?

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Speaker 2: But let's read on because there's a little update. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Me and my wife, Sarah had two sessions with couple's counselor.

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Speaker 2: Counselor was being very dedicated and professional. However, Sarah kept

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Speaker 2: making demands which felt very unreasonable and unfair. She wants

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Speaker 2: to keep an open relationship which is only about sex.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want to find a job and keep working.

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Speaker 2: She wants us to buy a new house. In every variation,

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Speaker 2: she stubbornly wants to have two out of three of

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Speaker 2: these things. Today. During the counseling, she threatened divorce. After counseling,

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Speaker 2: she said counselor was taking my side and wanted to

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Speaker 2: change to another counselor, although I think counselor was just

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Speaker 2: trying to be fair and find a compromise. I had

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Speaker 2: a talk with the lawyer and started divorce proceedings, and

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Speaker 2: she will get the papers in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I will give her two months to start earning on

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Speaker 2: her own. After that, I'm not giving any money whatsoever

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Speaker 2: to her anymore. In PS, I just wanted to add

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Speaker 2: that I only started working seventy four hours a week

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Speaker 2: after she decided to open her marriage. Before that, I

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Speaker 2: was working about fifty hours a week. Wasn't spending any

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Speaker 2: times at bars and clubs either, help with chores as

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Speaker 2: much as I could, and I was home and available

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Speaker 2: every weekend. Yeah, yeah, you got, you got a divorce.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the wife was like trying to like

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Speaker 1: because that was the initial thing, right that started off

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Speaker 1: as like she heavily implied like, hey, this or this

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Speaker 1: is over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she wants her cake and she wants to she

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Speaker 2: wants to eat her cake. She wants to cake.

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Speaker 1: She wants the cake one eat too. And you can't cake.

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Speaker 1: You not cake you want to have?

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Speaker 2: Okay, golly, thank you John, You're welcome. Really supported me

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Speaker 2: in that.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for you. But this is terrible, horrible.

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Speaker 2: Can you want cake?

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Speaker 1: No, canty want cake? You have? This is this is

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Speaker 1: not what we're doing here today. Those are the facts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as you were saying, she threatened divorce, she like

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Speaker 2: her go to threat is divorce and that's not healthy.

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Speaker 1: At this point, it's like, yes, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: He was like, oh, you're a threat, divorce fall through.

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Speaker 1: Here we go do it? Do it? You won't, you

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Speaker 1: won't do it?

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Speaker 2: So he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what else is great?

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Speaker 1: What this next story? Let's do it