Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Catty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and He Armstrong and Catty Strong. Hey,
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Speaker 3: I was fascinated by that python farm story the other day.
Speaker 3: I actually dug into that, did a little reading, you know,
Speaker 3: because pythons are big and giant and meaty and and
Speaker 3: they're like super efficient with the way they turn calories
Speaker 3: into muscle mass, and they taste like chicken.
Speaker 4: I got a question about that, but when I get
Speaker 4: to the cannibalisma, I'll I'll hit you with that.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, fair enough. So after the show,
Speaker 3: before we started recording this, Hanson replayed a clip of
Speaker 3: me saying something rather dry about Jack, and Jack commented,
Speaker 3: that's a very I'm just Diane thing to say. And
Speaker 3: I was reminded of a longtime listener to the show
Speaker 3: and hilarious tweeter I'm just Diane, and I went digging
Speaker 3: into our twitter feed. She doesn't tweet as much as
Speaker 3: she used to, I think, which is a shame for humanity.
Speaker 4: But she's had grown up with a job now and
Speaker 4: it's not easy. You should follow her, Katie, if you've
Speaker 4: never checked out, I'm just Diane on I am on
Speaker 4: her now. She is a listener we became aware of
Speaker 4: a long time ago. And she's very funny.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah. Her pinned tweet is I'd rather go home
Speaker 3: than go big, which I agree with. How perfect is that?
Speaker 3: And then somebody tweeted the the Nancy Pelosi this is
Speaker 3: not an attempt to ban TikTok, It's an attempt to
Speaker 3: make TikTok better. Tic tac toe a winner, a winner.
Speaker 3: Her comment has simply nailed it. Oh boy, man, I
Speaker 3: love understatement. I don't know about the phone. I think
Speaker 3: that's hilarious. Oh looking forward to the day my new
Speaker 3: phone stops autocorrecting, vaping to raping. Oh boy.
Speaker 4: Her best stuff is how much she hates her job
Speaker 4: and her coworkers. But that's a different topic. So New
Speaker 4: Scientists is a real science outfit, and they're trying to
Speaker 4: take another look at cannibalism, and they mention these bones
Speaker 4: that were found in a cave in southwest England which
Speaker 4: beared all the marks of cannibalism. It was pretty clear
Speaker 4: that cannibalism was going on their teeth, marks on the
Speaker 4: bones and the way.
Speaker 3: I won't get into details. It's pretty gross.
Speaker 4: But and this was fourteen, seven hundred years ago that
Speaker 4: they were practicing cannibalism there in England. To Protein's protein baby,
Speaker 4: that's what I say today, they write in New Scientists. Today,
Speaker 4: cannibalism is a taboo subject in many societies. We see
Speaker 4: it as aberrant, as a clear in film such as
Speaker 4: the Texas Chainsaw massacre. We associate it with zombies, psychopaths,
Speaker 4: and serial killers like hannibal Lecter. Positive stories about cannibals
Speaker 4: are few and far between.
Speaker 3: I would agree with you there, I haven't heard one
Speaker 3: of those.
Speaker 4: Wait, what a child's book about cannibalism? Or Jimmy is
Speaker 4: a good guy, liked to golf, he treated his family well,
Speaker 4: and he was a cannibal.
Speaker 3: He'll be missed.
Speaker 4: But perhaps it's time for a rethink because despite our preconceptions,
Speaker 4: evidence is accumulating that cannibalism was a common human behavior.
Speaker 4: Our ancestors have been eating each other for a million
Speaker 4: years or more.
Speaker 3: In fact, so was torture for years. In the years
Speaker 3: for centuries. But that doesn't mean we should reconsider it.
Speaker 3: What a bizarre story this is.
Speaker 4: In fact, it seems that down the ages, around a
Speaker 4: fifth of societies have practiced cannibalism. While some of these people,
Speaker 4: while some of this people eating, may have been simply survive.
Speaker 4: In many cases, the reasons look more complex. In places
Speaker 4: like this cave in southern England, for example, consuming bodies
Speaker 4: of the dead seems to have been part of a
Speaker 4: funerary ritual, something they did when people died. Far from
Speaker 4: a monstrous affront to nature, cannibalism may have been a
Speaker 4: way of showing respect and love for the dead, say archaeologist.
Speaker 3: No, uh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5: Whoever wrote this needs to be investigated. He's like trying
Speaker 5: to sell this.
Speaker 3: I don't like it right.
Speaker 4: He's trying to soften a revelation that may occur someday
Speaker 4: about the barrels in his.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, he's trying to set the table cannibalism. We
Speaker 3: need to reconsider it.
Speaker 5: I just watched a horrible horror movie about cannibalism where
Speaker 5: these guys invite a bunch of people over to their
Speaker 5: house for a dinner party, and they're serving them the victims,
Speaker 5: but they don't know it.
Speaker 4: Will Jim ever watch episodes of Hannibal, the prequel to
Speaker 4: Silence of the Lambs. Yes, Oh, my god, when he
Speaker 4: would when he would sit down at the table in
Speaker 4: his suit, with his fine wine and his beautiful home
Speaker 4: and starts slicing off pieces of weather that he cooked up.
Speaker 3: God, that was gross. Dinner table events.
Speaker 4: Do you think because like you, you're so You're talking
Speaker 4: the other day about the snakes and how that might
Speaker 4: become a meat of the future, And I said, you
Speaker 4: because the idea of eating a snake disgusts me.
Speaker 3: There's something about eating a reptile that I find. And
Speaker 3: I've had snake, I've had alligator, there are multiple I've
Speaker 3: had it, but I don't want to it's gross. Alligator
Speaker 3: was great. It's just fried me to say, that's all right,
Speaker 3: But could could you eat human? No? No, that's repugnant, repulsive? Why,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's an instinctive horror, I think now,
Speaker 3: the concept of it being a funerary ritual. Does anybody
Speaker 3: have anything else they'd like to say about Jim? Okay, well,
Speaker 3: then we're passing out knives and forks. If we could
Speaker 3: all make our way to the cast.
Speaker 4: Get. Yeah, I got more than to say about Jimmy
Speaker 4: looks delicious.
Speaker 3: Now that's some marbling. I mean, I know, I.
Speaker 4: Know he didn't exercise much, but that is some delicious
Speaker 4: looking marbling.
Speaker 5: He's creating a nice rub for it.
Speaker 3: Side sick. If you heard me, I think, did I
Speaker 3: tell this on the air? I can't remember my favorite
Speaker 3: joke now, which also takes place at a funeral. If
Speaker 3: you've heard this before, forgive me, but it's short. Uh.
Speaker 3: It's a funeral and uh, and people are talking about
Speaker 3: the dearly departed, and the widow stands up and says,
Speaker 3: is there anybody else who'd like to say a word?
Speaker 3: The guy stands up, He said I would, and he
Speaker 3: says plethora, and he sits down, and the widow says,
Speaker 3: thank you, jim That means a lot to me. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: that is a good one.
Speaker 6: I have.
Speaker 5: Actually, you've told that before, and I wrote it down
Speaker 5: to tell it to somebody else, and then I never did,
Speaker 5: so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 3: I pass it on again. Yes, the beauty of that
Speaker 3: joke is you think the punch your line is that
Speaker 3: he just says one worker. Yeah, there's a twist and
Speaker 3: a twist. My love caught the twist. Well done, good,
Speaker 3: good twist. That's funny. So back to cannibalism.
Speaker 4: I'm guessing that we're designed to be disgusted by it
Speaker 4: only because most of human history people have been starving.
Speaker 4: And if you weren't disgusted by it, I mean, if
Speaker 4: you if you thought of eating another human the same
Speaker 4: way you thought of eating a cow, we would have.
Speaker 3: All eaten each other.
Speaker 4: I mean, just the strongest would have survived and eaten
Speaker 4: each other, and the societies that didn't find it up
Speaker 4: hurt and died out pretty quickly because of that. That'd
Speaker 4: be my evolutionary guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're just like an epidemiological reason why it's
Speaker 3: a bad idea because obviously humans can catch human diseases,
Speaker 3: but I don't.
Speaker 4: I suppose that's possible, but you know, we've mostly been
Speaker 4: starving throughout history. If you weren't disgusted by it, and like,
Speaker 4: the only the only way you could possibly do it
Speaker 4: is if you're you know, the Donner Party, and you're
Speaker 4: all starving to death. And many of them didn't participate,
Speaker 4: they went ahead and starved before they did it. If
Speaker 4: it was okay with you, people would have turned to
Speaker 4: that right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I hates Jim. We all hate Jim. Let's eat him.
Speaker 3: I tell you what though, It's it's all about the
Speaker 3: method of preparation, because like, I'm not going to have
Speaker 3: human sushi or anything like that. That's too much. I'm
Speaker 3: a medium rare guy, but I'm going well done on Jim. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, maybe he smoked all day, like a
Speaker 3: long maybe jerky even I want it really click. Could
Speaker 3: it be like a company.
Speaker 5: Could it be like a sandwich or maybe like a
Speaker 5: wrap or something.
Speaker 4: So it's not just that, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't want it like tender and falling off the femur.
Speaker 4: I just say, oh, like a turkey leg you know,
Speaker 4: you see it the.
Speaker 3: Fair, small portions because I'm diabetic. That's right, You're at
Speaker 3: the fair and you're eating a human legs. Got that
Speaker 3: foot still see that's disgusting. That's my point.
Speaker 4: So we'll see if this catches on and if New
Speaker 4: Scientific is successful in their effort to I don't know,
Speaker 4: mainstream cannibalism.
Speaker 5: I guess you know what the world we're in right now,
Speaker 5: it wouldn't shock me, right.
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Speaker 4: I've been familiar with next door for a long time,
Speaker 4: but I'd never had the notifications on where I would
Speaker 4: get where I would get the regular everything everybody posts?
Speaker 3: Good God? Is that a smorgus board of unimportant?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 3: Question? It is the forum of first world problems?
Speaker 4: What it is? It's it's a combination of of like
Speaker 4: first world problems that you really don't need to mention
Speaker 4: out loud to anyone.
Speaker 3: And uh, and like big problems.
Speaker 4: That there are much better venues for finding the answer,
Speaker 4: like my you know, my dad has got this disease.
Speaker 4: My dad's got Parkinson. He happened to be president. Does
Speaker 4: anybody recommend a good doctor? You going on next door
Speaker 4: for that?
Speaker 3: Is that your best place to try to figure out
Speaker 3: these things? It just seems odd to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess nobody ever responds, So I don't know
Speaker 7: why everybody's fishing in this pond. I could see asking
Speaker 7: for a recommendation of like a service provider or something
Speaker 7: like that. I wouldn't ask what medicine do you think
Speaker 7: you ought to take? Or anything like that, or you know.
Speaker 4: A football is in my backyards, they may know it
Speaker 4: belonged to That was one this morning.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, I saw one the other day that somebody
Speaker 5: took a picture off of a ring camera of a
Speaker 5: kid that doorbell ditched them, and they posted the video
Speaker 5: on next door, going.
Speaker 3: Whose kid is this? Right? Right?
Speaker 4: Lots of those, lots of did anybody just hear that
Speaker 4: noise that happens like ten times a day?
Speaker 3: And then various responses. I did too.
Speaker 4: I thought it sounded like a gun. It didn't sound
Speaker 4: like a gun. It sounded like more okay whatever. But
Speaker 4: here's my favorite one from today that got me on
Speaker 4: this very topic.
Speaker 3: Here's another one. Somebody asking about shingles.
Speaker 4: Find a medical professional or or web md or something
Speaker 4: not next door that's talking about roof.
Speaker 3: Depilating a nerve pain or exactly I'm talking about the disease.
Speaker 3: Here's my favorite one.
Speaker 4: Does anybody know what I should do with this crow?
Speaker 4: It has a hurt wing. It lands between our houses.
Speaker 4: I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to nurse it
Speaker 4: back to health. It keeps hopping around, and I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do with it. You gotta put the
Speaker 4: whip to it. It's not trying hard enough. What should
Speaker 4: I do with it?
Speaker 3: Call it a sissy and tell it to try harder, right, exactly,
Speaker 3: tell it. The Good Lord helps crows that help themselves.
Speaker 3: Is like, is it like the new Google for your neighbors?
Speaker 3: I don't understand why people are utilizing that. Well, all right,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You don't have Google or any of the other search
Speaker 4: engines for figuring stuff out, or even TikTok or whatever
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 3: You go to the next door with the other eighty
Speaker 3: year old. Nothing else to do is to answer your question. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just I'm just shocked by And I've always wondered
Speaker 3: this about when I didn't live in a neighborhood for
Speaker 3: like twenty years. But now I'm in a neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Every neighborhood I've ever lived in, pretty much, there are
Speaker 4: quite a few houses.
Speaker 3: Where you know who lives there.
Speaker 4: Even if you don't know know them, you see them
Speaker 4: on a regular basis, getting in their car, kid, coming
Speaker 4: home on a bike, whatever. But there's always several houses
Speaker 4: where you just never see anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah ever, ever, you never see anybody ever. Somebody lives there.
Speaker 4: Lights get turned on at night, off in the morning,
Speaker 4: and that must be the crowd that's on next door
Speaker 4: asking about crows or medical questions or whatever.
Speaker 3: It must be that you gotta go on next door
Speaker 3: and say, hey, has anybody ever seen anybody come out
Speaker 3: of the blue house on them?
Speaker 5: Just start asking really weird questions on there, Jack, that'd
Speaker 5: be perfect.
Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of asking advice, I thought this was so
Speaker 3: interesting and it makes sense in my head. See if
Speaker 3: it does to you. It's new research out about getting advice,
Speaker 3: asking for advice, that sort of thing, and this, Elizabeth
Speaker 3: Bernstein writes, we tend to believe the best person for
Speaker 3: support during a tough time will always be someone who's
Speaker 3: been there before. Turns out that's wrong. New research shows
Speaker 3: we make get better help from people who've been through
Speaker 3: a significant challenge that's different from our own. Because social
Speaker 3: scientists say this is because those who have been through
Speaker 3: an unrelated challenge can empathize with our emotional pain, but
Speaker 3: they won't assume they know what our experience is like
Speaker 3: or bring their own emotional baggage to the conversation. Oh,
Speaker 3: hun's great, that is interesting. I think that one over. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: somebody who's quote unquote been there before sometimes talks more
Speaker 3: than they listen. They may also give advice solely based
Speaker 3: on their experience and forget that ours is going to
Speaker 3: be different, and because they got already got over the problem,
Speaker 3: they think we should too, and tend to minimize how
Speaker 3: painful the situation is. My main advice with.
Speaker 4: Big things that I've been through is usually having been
Speaker 4: through this, don't listen to anybody's advice.
Speaker 3: That's about my only advice on a number of big things.
Speaker 3: Wow wow interesting. A cynical man or an experienced man,
Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes someone you don't know well
Speaker 3: may have different life experiences that you can draw upon.
Speaker 3: You never know what people know until you ask.
Speaker 4: Well, like, that's the advice I give on my cancer experience,
Speaker 4: because I've had a number of people ask me who
Speaker 4: get cancer, and I say, don't take anybody's advice, because
Speaker 4: everybody's situation is so incredibly different. I heard so many
Speaker 4: things that turned out not to be true, and I've been
Speaker 4: better off if I never asked. Everybody's situation is miles
Speaker 4: apart and changes on a daily basis, so don't worry
Speaker 4: about it. And child rearing while not the same as that,
Speaker 4: because there are some truths to child wearing, definitely, but man,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of I don't know, what are you
Speaker 4: telling me this for when it comes to child wearing. Also, yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people are trying to express their own how do
Speaker 3: I put this, work out their own issues or exhibit
Speaker 3: their own egos or something, because kids are so different
Speaker 3: and then the parents interaction with the kid is so different.
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, it's hard to normalize a lot of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe the worst advice giver is somebody who's raised a kid,
Speaker 3: because getting back to the beginning of this article, they're
Speaker 3: completely convinced that their experience is universal. I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about all of you that have had one child. Obviously
Speaker 3: some of you have wisdom, but yeah, you'd exactly be
Speaker 3: what she was describing. Yep, I because I've got that
Speaker 3: situation and it ends up fine. If I just if I'd.
Speaker 4: Only had one of them, I would think I was
Speaker 4: the world's greatest parent and be willing to lay out
Speaker 4: all kinds of advice and maybe write a book if
Speaker 4: I don't lay out the other one, I would think
Speaker 4: I'm a disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that. So final note on this, which
Speaker 3: I found interesting was the power of weak ties. Conversations
Speaker 3: with people that you have weak ties with can be
Speaker 3: surprisingly helpful. They don't know us well, they don't know
Speaker 3: our faults. They're less likely to judge us or make
Speaker 3: assumptions about our situation or something like that. I've had
Speaker 3: many experiences like this. Are much more likely to be
Speaker 3: a fellow, like a brainstormer, than a bestower of alleged wisdom.
Speaker 3: They're much more likely to listen and toss out ideas
Speaker 3: with you than try to lay the law down.
Speaker 4: This is the guy sitting next to you at the
Speaker 4: bar or the bus stop or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've had this experience many times in my life, and
Speaker 4: it works both directions. They don't have any particular agenda
Speaker 4: because they don't know you.
Speaker 3: And you don't.
Speaker 4: They can say things that if somebody who did know
Speaker 4: you said them, you'd get furiously angry. But because you
Speaker 4: don't know them at all and have nothing invested, you
Speaker 4: can just hear what damn to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The power of weak ties thought provoking. Yeah, ask
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Speaker 4: So you said love in Bloom or crazy stoker psychobiatch Yes, exactly, Okay,
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Speaker 4: That's always the problem with that is just it's it's
Speaker 4: it's it's whether or not the other person is interested
Speaker 4: in you. All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's
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Speaker 4: And I said no five times and I came out
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Speaker 4: If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome.
Speaker 4: If you don't like the guy, you call the police
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Speaker 3: Or send your brothers to beat him down. Yeah, right, exactly. Ah, yes,
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Speaker 3: are crazy stalker psychobiac let's find out. Thirteen Michael.
Speaker 8: I saw this really cute guy at the grocery store
Speaker 8: the other day, so naturally, I followed him to the
Speaker 8: checkout counter, and when he gave the cashier his credit card,
Speaker 8: I peeped it to see what his name was, and
Speaker 8: then I googled him and found his social media profiles,
Speaker 8: and I was able to tell that he was single.
Speaker 6: So I went through his friends list and I found
Speaker 6: his mother's page, and then I looked through his mother's
Speaker 6: page and I saw that she was a member of
Speaker 6: this book club that's in my area. So I went
Speaker 6: to the book club meeting and I met his mom
Speaker 6: there and she just thought I was so nice, and
Speaker 6: I brought it up randomly in conversation that I was single,
Speaker 6: and she let me know that she had a son
Speaker 6: that was single also that lived in the area, and
Speaker 6: maybe it would be cool for us to get together
Speaker 6: in chat sometime. So I gave her my number, which
Speaker 6: she gave to her son, and this morning he texted
Speaker 6: me and asked if I'd like to get together this
Speaker 6: weekend and do something. So I guess we're going to
Speaker 6: go on a date. I'm really excited.
Speaker 5: Wait until he sees this and goes, oh my god,
Speaker 5: who did I go on a date with?
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's gonna turn out. That's insane. Well,
Speaker 3: we have a little update for you. That young man
Speaker 3: is now dissolving in a as that psycho decided he
Speaker 3: wasn't worthy of living, and she is now wearing his
Speaker 3: skin as his garment and his fingerbones as a necklace.
Speaker 3: Follow up segment. All right, all right, so dude run
Speaker 3: from her. God, she actually went to the book club meeting.
Speaker 4: And got to know his mom.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, because he's a cute guy. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: let's all recognize. I can see a dozen attractive women,
Speaker 3: there will be one that'll like make my brain explode
Speaker 3: for whatever, genetic, anthropology, anthropological, who knows why it happens. Reason,
Speaker 3: Doctor Freud had his own opinions whatever, and maybe it
Speaker 3: was one of those. Maybe it was one of those.
Speaker 3: She saw him and just her jaw dropped. It was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, for whatever reason, now certainly concocting some
Speaker 3: sort of can you help me out to the car
Speaker 3: with this or that would have been a hell of
Speaker 3: a lot more normal than the whole Sherlock Holmes routine.
Speaker 3: How troubled are we by the detective job and the
Speaker 3: roots she took.
Speaker 4: Man the the going to the book club.
Speaker 3: And meeting mom and getting to know her. That is
Speaker 3: that is a that's a different level. That really feels
Speaker 3: to me like something that ends up with somebody's cat
Speaker 3: getting murdered.
Speaker 4: So, Katie, you're more up on the modern world of
Speaker 4: how this is handling. How do we feel about just
Speaker 4: like noticing the name on the credit card and doing
Speaker 4: a little research on online so that.
Speaker 3: See I think that it was.
Speaker 5: It got weird the second she looked at his credit
Speaker 5: credit card to.
Speaker 3: Get his number his name.
Speaker 5: I like Joe's idea, just hey, could you help me
Speaker 5: to the car with this, or like a regular approach.
Speaker 5: But I would be lying if I said that I
Speaker 5: hadn't met a guy and he had given me his
Speaker 5: name and I went home and looked him up. I've
Speaker 5: done that before, but not you know, to the extent
Speaker 5: to go meet his mom at a book club and
Speaker 5: then wear his skin later.
Speaker 3: That's weird. Michael thoughts, Yeah, pretty psycho, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm like Katie, I mean, maybe you look him up online,
Speaker 4: do a little background check, but that's it.
Speaker 5: Well, here's a little he gives you his name, you
Speaker 5: don't look at his credit card to like, kind of.
Speaker 3: I don't this. She sounds like a serial killer to me. Well,
Speaker 3: there's a little surprise. We're going to talk to him
Speaker 3: live now. He's chained the radiator in her basement. Help me,
Speaker 3: somebody's helped me.
Speaker 2: Gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's second part of the story.
Speaker 5: He goes missing and she's helping his mom look for
Speaker 5: him at that point. That's how these horror movies go.
Speaker 5: She's putting up posters. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't
Speaker 4: get into about how all you need is somebody. If
Speaker 4: you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find
Speaker 4: out everything and it costs you like a buck online,
Speaker 4: and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone
Speaker 4: they've ever had, all their friends, family members. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,
Speaker 4: but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any
Speaker 4: guy who gets a hold of my phone number at
Speaker 4: all now knows where I live and where my friends live,
Speaker 4: and where I work and and everything. It's just yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just different world for that sort of thing. Of course,
Speaker 4: on the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out
Speaker 4: to me their date, And remember when we were younger,
Speaker 4: all of our names were in the phone book with
Speaker 4: our address, all of us, all of us. You knew
Speaker 4: somebody's name, you could look up their address. And it's
Speaker 4: not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's name
Speaker 4: was in the phone book with their address.
Speaker 3: Did the unlisted thing come later? Is that no unlisted existed?
Speaker 3: But I never knew a girl that was unlisted. Every
Speaker 3: girl was dat she was writing the phone book. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: real rarity. Getting back to the whole meeting mom book
Speaker 3: class book club happened to randomly mention I was single
Speaker 3: and subterfuge. That just that that is a willingness to
Speaker 3: be sneaky and duplicitous. That isn't her first rodeo, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the
Speaker 4: the modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would
Speaker 4: you rather run into a bear or a man in
Speaker 4: the woods for a woman? I mean, just you saying,
Speaker 4: was that before unlisted was available? Like you wouldn't want
Speaker 4: your name listed in the phone Everybody had their address
Speaker 4: the name in the phone book, and every body was
Speaker 4: fine with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 4: that's dangerous a guy could look up my address. It
Speaker 4: worked out. I mean, so is culture that much worse?
Speaker 4: Are we just way more paranoid than we? Well?
Speaker 3: I would point out that if I had the hots
Speaker 3: for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,
Speaker 3: her last name was truly rare and distinctive, there'd be
Speaker 3: eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell
Speaker 3: which one.
Speaker 4: That wasn't my experience at all, because I lived in
Speaker 4: small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only one Jenny
Speaker 4: Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there. And
Speaker 4: I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even talking
Speaker 4: about it being abused.
Speaker 3: No, nope.
Speaker 4: So what changed our parent the reality of stalkers or
Speaker 4: our paranoia.
Speaker 3: Both? I don't know. People aren't brave anymore.
Speaker 4: They don't want to just go and ask something, ask
Speaker 4: someone out right in person, you know, just hey, would
Speaker 4: you like to go out?
Speaker 3: Would you like to get some coffee? That's like skills
Speaker 3: take developing, though, and we're not letting our kids develop
Speaker 3: those social skills. I had chatted up so many girls
Speaker 3: by the time I started college. Just the idea of
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't I can't say hello to orright.
Speaker 3: It was just foreign to me. It was not like
Speaker 3: I have some sort of bold master gamesman or anything.
Speaker 3: It was just so familiar to me. You know, hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing well? Please? Phones and internet have completely
Speaker 3: smashed that skill. I think, you know, this is a
Speaker 3: weird grab, but it popped in my head for some reason.
Speaker 3: I can't remember why. The other day I was thinking
Speaker 3: about the old like the first Bob Seger song with
Speaker 3: the what was the name of his band, Bob Seger
Speaker 3: and the silver bulibin. No, No, that was before he
Speaker 3: was a solo artist, when he was a Detroit rocker,
Speaker 3: but rambling gambling man. The line is ain't good looking,
Speaker 3: but you know, I ain't shy, ain't afraid to look
Speaker 3: a girl in the eye.
Speaker 4: And A.
Speaker 3: I've always kind of liked that line because he was
Speaker 3: a regular guy. But b we've got a couple of
Speaker 3: generations who are terrified to look a girl in the
Speaker 3: eye and say, hey, how you doing so that gets right.
Speaker 4: You think if she she found him alluring enough to
Speaker 4: go through all that work, she should have made her move,
Speaker 4: right then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that. Of course,
Speaker 3: if you're an all attractive young woman, all you have
Speaker 3: to say is so I see you like cereal. That's
Speaker 3: good enough. Ice Brenker right there, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I have a real issue with her
Speaker 5: going on a date with him after having done all
Speaker 5: of this and acting like it didn't go down like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh.
Speaker 5: We just so happened to meet I met your mom
Speaker 5: at book club, like the whole the start of whatever
Speaker 5: relationship this might be is going to be bs anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a decent point there. You can't start with
Speaker 4: a lie and then go from there. Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 4: ends with a dead cat, trust me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4: If you uh yeah, if you're out with somebody and
Speaker 4: everything like that, And then she mentions, yeah, I was
Speaker 4: talking to your mom.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, and you know my mom? Why do
Speaker 3: you know my mom? This is weird.
Speaker 5: Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.
Speaker 5: So I saw your credit card at the store.
Speaker 3: I enjoy the book club that your mom is in.
Speaker 3: You're twenty three year old woman. You're in a book
Speaker 3: club with a bunch of sixty four year olds. Why
Speaker 3: I like to read.
Speaker 4: Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County
Speaker 4: so you can get to meet this old woman.
Speaker 3: That is going too far.
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Speaker 4: My son, who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade this
Speaker 4: week graduating, So he actually asked, why do they have
Speaker 4: eighth grade graduation? Well, I don't know the real answer,
Speaker 4: but where I grew up, I thought it was because
Speaker 4: a lot of people stopped going to school at eighth grade.
Speaker 4: There was a good chunk of the class that were
Speaker 4: a particular religion, the Mennonites. They stopped at eighth grade.
Speaker 4: So I thought that's why we had eighth grade graduation
Speaker 4: because they were done. But then found out they have
Speaker 4: eighth grade graduations other places, So why does eighth grade
Speaker 4: graduation exist?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: I actually heard a really interesting argument about this once,
Speaker 3: where the one point of view was, hey, they've finished
Speaker 3: a level of school. Let's say let's show them, hey,
Speaker 3: education is important, we're proud of you a good job.
Speaker 3: Let's reinforce wanting to stay in school and pass everything,
Speaker 3: which I think is a perfectly reasonable point of view.
Speaker 3: The opposition was a woman who was saying, they haven't
Speaker 3: accomplished anything. They're getting the very basics of education. They're kids,
Speaker 3: They've got several more years of mandatory schooling. They haven't
Speaker 3: accomplished anything, They've barely gotten started. Quit with the ceremonies.
Speaker 3: Too many ceremonies. I lean more towards that point of view.
Speaker 3: But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies
Speaker 3: I have to go to, I'm in favor of.
Speaker 5: Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it
Speaker 5: my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.
Speaker 5: I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy
Speaker 5: a robe. Yeah, I wear a little green graduation cap
Speaker 5: and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid
Speaker 5: for because we have it.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking you've got money sucked out of that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah we did.
Speaker 4: We had to do kindergarten graduation and there was like
Speaker 4: a certificate and stuff. But I don't think there was
Speaker 4: no robe involved, but.
Speaker 3: You know, I hate to blame the gals for this,
Speaker 3: but it reminds me of little seven year old kids
Speaker 3: in full uniform playing Little League, and they have opening
Speaker 3: ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of
Speaker 3: the teams and lots of pictures and the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, you just went and played ball.
Speaker 3: There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have
Speaker 3: an opening ceremony. First game of the year is on Saturday,
Speaker 3: Go play it. That was the opening ceremony play ball.
Speaker 4: So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,
Speaker 4: and you're supposed to wear a tie. So we have
Speaker 4: to go out and get a tie at some point
Speaker 4: this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants
Speaker 4: because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: He can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet
Speaker 4: than me. But so I have to get him some
Speaker 4: dress shoes and a tie. And it is gonna be hot.
Speaker 4: But the night before there's a big dance, the very
Speaker 4: first dance of his life. Oh boy, And he said
Speaker 4: the other day, I sure hope there's chairs because I
Speaker 4: plan to sit.
Speaker 5: It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with
Speaker 5: this one, Like I was so excited and he wants
Speaker 5: to share to sit.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I know, I know that that's true. I'm
Speaker 4: sure the girls are very, very excited. I was gonna
Speaker 4: talk I haven't talked to him about that. I hint
Speaker 4: it a I was gonna talk to him specifically about
Speaker 4: and I haven't completely crafted it into my head yet,
Speaker 4: and it probably won't do any good anyway, because it's
Speaker 4: different when you're fourteen than when you're older. And looking
Speaker 4: back on being fourteen, but man, oh man, oh man,
Speaker 4: there's so many things that I chickened out of or
Speaker 4: kind of wish I had done or whatever. You only
Speaker 4: live once. You only freaking live once. That girl over there,
Speaker 4: you kind of like, go ask her to dance? Good God,
Speaker 4: I gotta figure out how I want to present it.
Speaker 4: Not like that, but I mean, looking at talking to
Speaker 4: my eighth grade me, I mean, just life is short.
Speaker 3: One go round. Yeah, here's here's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll offer this service. I'll come over with half
Speaker 3: a dozen middle school young ladies. Have your boy ask
Speaker 3: each one of them to dance. Each one of them
Speaker 3: will say thanks, but no, I'm not interested. And by
Speaker 3: the end of maybe we'll even do two rounds. By
Speaker 3: the end of it, that kid'll be like, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 4: Oh, they just get used to get it, used to
Speaker 4: be rejected a couple of times at all.
Speaker 3: Or they might be completely demoralized. But uh no, maybe
Speaker 3: you have that thirteenth one say yeah, I'd love to.
Speaker 3: Did you ask somebody to dance, Michael, Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I did. I usually got rejected, so it's okay.
Speaker 4: I didn't ask anybody to dance. Somebody asked me to
Speaker 4: dance for the last slow dance of the night. And
Speaker 4: I've never been more nervous in my life. I can
Speaker 4: I still feel the sweat running down my armpits as
Speaker 4: we were slow dancing. I was so nervous and scared.
Speaker 3: But why wouldn't you?
Speaker 4: I mean, and I kind of wanted to dance, but
Speaker 4: I was scared at one of being rejected and two
Speaker 4: of dancing in front of other people. It's just God,
Speaker 4: when you get older, it just seems like, why would
Speaker 4: you freaking care? But that's just the perspect of age.
Speaker 4: You can't you know, you can't inject that into someone.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now,
Speaker 5: it's such a big thing to them, right.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, of course it is.
Speaker 4: And I'm you know, so on one hand, I don't
Speaker 4: know about his friends, but it's probably true for his
Speaker 4: friends too.
Speaker 3: On one hand, I hope they have chairs there. I
Speaker 3: might bring my own camping chair just so I make
Speaker 3: sure it posessed it. But he has. Uh.
Speaker 4: We got a haircut two weeks ago and he wasn't
Speaker 4: quite happy with that, so we went and got another haircut,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, he's been picking out his clothes.
Speaker 4: So I mean, you wouldn't get two haircuts and pick
Speaker 4: out your clothes and all this sort of stuff if
Speaker 4: you didn't care at all. So you care, but you
Speaker 4: just don't want to look like you care, because I'm
Speaker 4: sure none of your friends are looking like they care.
Speaker 4: As the boys again, as the girls you get you
Speaker 4: can be as thrilled as you want to be.
Speaker 3: Lots of exclamation points.
Speaker 5: Of your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played the records at the dances I did
Speaker 3: do in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think
Speaker 3: it's one of the reasons I became a musician. If
Speaker 3: I'm playing, you can't ask me to dance.
Speaker 4: I'm busy all the high school and says I was
Speaker 4: the DJ, which kind of got me out of it.
Speaker 4: I got to be there, but I had a job. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but uh yeah, so I don't know. I'm gonna try
Speaker 4: to craft some sort of go for it type speech.
Speaker 4: See how it lands. I can just think of several
Speaker 4: examples of like, why why didn't you? Why didn't you
Speaker 4: do this? Why didn't you do that? There's no downside.
Speaker 4: The worst case scenario is nothing. The well, actually a
Speaker 4: worst case scenario is not doing anything and then wishing
Speaker 4: the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: You would have tried. So yeah, her hair.
Speaker 4: So that said, he bought a fake rolex off of Amazon.
Speaker 4: He totally cares. He totally cares. He doesn't cool to
Speaker 4: not care, but yeah, he cares. He bought this fake rolex.
Speaker 4: It's forty dollars and it's so shockingly great. I mean
Speaker 4: it's really really good. It's like really heavy and nice
Speaker 4: and yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3: I think you may be admitting to a federal offense
Speaker 3: harboring a known importer of rep bove the counterfeit Goods
Speaker 3: got it off Amazon.
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