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Yes and yes in 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: the in the marketplace. So you asked, what's physical robot 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: what's physical AI robotics? He brought the robot on stage 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: with him. In the marketplace, there was tons of robots. 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: We put it on Instagram, as far as the dog, 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: the the guy that was doing shout out to Alex 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: good energy on the check in, the guy that was 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: picking up the stuff in the factories. So there was 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: two things that Jensen was really big on robotics, and 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: the other key takeaway that I got was the rational 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: aspect of artificial intelligence. 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: That's the new wave. I forget the exactly agent AI. 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: So, all right, like artificial intelligence as we know it today, right, 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: let's take chat GBT. You asked it questions and it 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: gives you answers, right, But if you ask it like 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: two complex questions, it'll say I can't answer that question, 52 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: or that's debatable, or it kind of stares away from asking. 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Like if you say, okay, what's the best religion in 54 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: the world, they'll say, like, that's a debatable which it 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: is debatable, right, But if I ask a person that 56 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: based on their personal beliefs, based on their rational thinking, 57 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: based on their upbringing, they'll tell me it's Christianity. 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: They'll tell me it's Islam, its Buddhism. 59 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: That's their personal opinions, and that's how conversations happen with 60 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: real people. 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: Right. 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: But AI doesn't work like that right now. But the 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: next iteration of AI is a rational thought process where 64 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: it's actually thinking in real time, it's rationalizing situations and 65 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: its algorithm and it's giving you answers based off of 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: not only it's intelligence, but also it's rational mind. That's 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: what's kind of separating humans from AI right now, because 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: they already have intelligence, but they don't have the emotional intelligence, 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: the rational the how to talk. That's the next iteration 70 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: of AIS. So if you think about it, like, what 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: that's going to do is lower the value of education 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: because like let's say, like right now, lawyers get paid 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: from a scarcity of knowledge that only a select few 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: people in the world have. Like, if you have a 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: law degree, you're in a select few group of people 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: in the total sum of the world, right, And that 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: knowledge that you've acquired over eight years and then working, 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: that's made your education scarce, and that's major knowledge scarce, 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: which makes. 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: Your value high. 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 82 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: Now if everybody has that same knowledge and that same 83 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: rational thought to be able to not only say this 84 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: contract is good or bad, but no, this is what 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: we need is how we need to negotiate this contract. Well, now, 86 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: the value of a lawyers is really nothing because I'm 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 4: a lawyer, you're a lawyer, Ian's a lawyer. 88 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: Everybody is a lawyer. 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: If we have the artificial intelligence lawyer, right, So he 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: gave the example as far as going and the dinner 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: and at Thanksgiving, and it's like, now it's like, okay, 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: if I'm gonna have my spouse, the like, okay, I 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: got eight people, sit me at a table right now, 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: It'll just give you a random seating chart. But the 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: new version will think about all scenarios. It will ask 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: you questions, and it will see people accordingly based on 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: their opinion. Stop breaking protocol, man, stop breaking protocol. 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: Say keep going, keep going, keep going, we go down. 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: So that was that was a big, big thing that 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: he really pushed. And he and you could talk about 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: the technical side as far as you're gonna make it 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: it's smarter, and it's it's using more gigs and the 103 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: whole nine. But for me, those are the two things 104 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: that really stuck out to me because it was like, 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: everybody's going to have a robot mm hmm. The number 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 4: one job in the world for men? Put in chat, 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: what's the number one job that was a gym? What's 108 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: the number one job in the world for men as 109 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: far as that employs the most men globally? What's the 110 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: number one job in the world. And Alex you could 111 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: appreciate this, what's the number one job in the world 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: that employs the most men globally. 113 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Let's see if anybody gets. 114 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: That was one of those like you learn something new 115 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: every day, which brought me to my point of what 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I took away and how scary that is. 117 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll chime in, and then you can chime in 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: the mind. Yeah, no, let them do this. 119 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: The number one job in the world for men is drivers, 120 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: cab drivers, uber eats truck drivers. 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: Anywhere in the world. 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: You think about it, like, you don't need a skill 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: set to be a driver, you just need a car, right, 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: and you could go to South Africa, you can go 125 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: to India, there's always a cab driver. There's always like 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: that's the number one job for men globally. Yep, that's 127 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: going to be a race pretty soon. Yeas driving toamis 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: drives a nothing. They have their partnership with gm Atonomus. 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: Driving is going to take hundreds of millions of jobs. 130 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: So imagine all of those people. This is the number 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: one employer for men is a driver. And if we 132 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: don't need a driver because we have a totomist driving, 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: what does that do to all the number one job 134 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: for men in the world. 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I think and just to introduct just briefly, the autonomous 136 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: piece that they displayed was completely different than what we 137 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: saw like in a tussa where you get in a 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: car and it's kind of scanning your surroundings to make 139 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: sure that there's a car is not too close to 140 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: you on your right or your left, or did somebody 141 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: walk and there's a dog, there's a sidewalk. 142 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: This was something completely different what we saw. 143 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: This actually was understanding the physical environment based on any scenario, right, 144 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: And so it would scan the area and then it 145 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: would tell you, based on the weather perception, what how 146 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: you should how it should drive if it snowed, how 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: to drive to a sleep if it was. It studied 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the weather patterns and so now it's prepared to drive 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: in any condition. Whereas an average human there's going to 150 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: be human error. This is preparing for the human error 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: before it even happens. 152 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Right. 153 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: So like that piece of understanding the physical world, this 154 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: is a game, shoed. 155 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you finished. Women to want me to 156 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: go yeah, yeah, So like this is literally in my notes. 157 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: So, Agent Ki, was that piece you were talking about 158 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: and I saw some people put in the chat it's 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: that reasoning piece right, so able to ask the question, 160 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: but it's also able to solve complex problems on its own, 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: which is we're not at that space right now, right, 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: But that is the first thing. The physical AI, like 163 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: you said, the robotics. I think the piece that he 164 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: said is that that physical AI with reinforcement learning, and 165 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: so that's when the machine starts to learn and make 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: decisions in the environment right to maximize the reward. So 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: like this machine is now doing these things and it's like, oh, 168 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: that's how's supposed to do it, trial and error. 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: This is not supposed to do it. That's how I'm 170 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: not supposed to do it. 171 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: It was like when we had we thought of robotics, 172 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: if they held a ball in their hand and they 173 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: dropped it, it wasn't like where did the ball go? 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: The ball was just no longer there. The reinforce learning 175 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: is like, oh, the ball dropped. It must have fell down. 176 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I have to now find it, right, So imagine like 177 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: it's that type of robotics. The interesting thing that he 178 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: said is like, yes, tbt's are important, right, agents are 179 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: going to be important. He said, the biggest piece and 180 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: the biggest opportunity left in the AI puzzle is when 181 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: physical AI and reinforcement learning are combined, which is when 182 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: it introduced the robotics that would come inside your home. 183 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: So we were I mean, we were just sitting there 184 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: thinking to each other, like wait, hold up, what we're 185 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: talking about? Big u on over here, and like they're 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: putting robots in people's homes, and they're trying to rent 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: these robots and they already got the price points. 188 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: So that was the first piece. 189 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: And then we got to go into the exhibit hall 190 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: and just like you said, from a technical standpoint, and 191 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: go watch we so like people talk about blackwell, like 192 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: we actually saw it like in front of us, right 193 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: on the table, Like we got to pick and look 194 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: at it, and. 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: Like we saw what it looked like. 196 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: And so obviously then the mind starts turning right Like 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a few times in life where you 198 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: feel validated, right, and like the information felt validated, And 199 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: so I'm asking questions. I'm just trying to pride from engineers, 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's that was that? Was that knowing 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for the answer in mind? And I 202 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: was like, okay, here all the racks. Who's making these racks? Hey, 203 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: got my answer. All right, If that's the GPU and 204 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: this is liquid cooling, who's providing the liquor cooling for this? 205 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: All right? Bet? If that's the GPU, who's doing the 206 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 2: storage for that? Oh? 207 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Bet going to vendor markle. You see all the players. 208 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: All the players are there. So if I'm talking about Micron, 209 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Micron is there. If I'm talking about Vertiv in terms 210 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: of liquor cooling, vertive is there. If we're talking about 211 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: super Micro, super Micro's there. All these You're starting to 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: see all these players and it's like, oh, this makes sense. 213 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: And so when we talk about yes, uncertainty is key 214 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to how the market moves. 215 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: AI is still the story. 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: And even when he spoke about deep Seek and he 217 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: was like, look, you guys got this thing one hundred 218 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: percent wrong, just because they had it and they found 219 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: they're still going to need compute and it's still going 220 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: to take a large amount of money to start to 221 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: getting these compute these GPUs out, I'm like, damn. Then 222 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: the last piece was like, how are people going to 223 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: even compete at this level this? Not only are they saying, hey, 224 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: here's our product for twenty twenty five, here's our product 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six with black Belt Ultra. 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