1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast knows how to spell. Welcome 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: back to another addition of the Roma League Podcast. My 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: name is Dan Henderson. I'm joined by room filled with 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: some heroes, Chris Westling and Greg Ross. Do what up? Boys? 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: That's that's not the only people here. Well, he's so 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: special that he gets his own intro, sitting in the 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Sessler chair looking at his phone. It's almost cliche. He 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: is the NFL media insider. Ian Rappaport head about it. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't also holding your headset like your Vanelle. I 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: also want to mess up my hair. It's on your ears. No, 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna fall off other wives if it goes above. 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin the make it dent in 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: the hair up here. And I saw you laugh immediately 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: when Dan started the show, kind of like what the hell? 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Kind of boy says this? Because that's not the normal 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Dan hands this voice? What what was that about? Um? 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: You guys go back. We do, go back back to 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: our journal news days, back when we were taking games 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: over the phone, making twelve dollars an hour, which seems 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: like a ton in New York. What year? What year 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: was this when you guys worked together? Ian and Dan 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: both worked at the same newspaper in Westchester County. Basic 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Well Dan didn't have gray hair then, yeah, it was 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: and Ian wasn't dying his yet, so we haven't started yet, 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: right anyway, two thousand three, then Ian started bouncering around 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: the country going up the ladder and then we strangely 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: cross paths again a decade. What super Bowl wasn't it? 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: It was? It was what Super Bowl was? It were 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: our first round into that was the cult the Giants 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Patriots supers right, Yeah, that was back when Ian used 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: to work at the Boston Herald, and he would send 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: me and my old boss, Mike Florio at Pro Football 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Talk about fifteen every blog post up for his old 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: rap sheet. He would say, Hey, here, guys, you can 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: link to this. But there was no quality control. It 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: could be like Dion Branches hanging out at a grocery 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: store and need him right, and and that would be 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: good enough to send to us that. I don't know 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: if I really recall it quite like that. I play 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: things up to effect. Do you haven't listened to the 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: podcast that that was the original podcast, the original rap sheet, 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: wasn't it? No, the original rap She was in Birmingham 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: for the Birmingham News. Alright, Ian, if it's okay, we're 44 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna start talking about football, Yes, you're here. It is perfect. Actually, 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: free agency starts on Tuesday. You're you're probably name drop 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: more than anyone else in the show, so it's it's 47 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: fitting that you're in here this week. We're gonna go 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: through some news and then we're gonna go through maybe 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: some speculation and then just getting maybe a little bit irresponsible. 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: It'll get it'll be fun. That sounds right, sounds like 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: a regular week. We have to preface every time we 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: address you with the words NFL media insider, because we 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: do that on the show anyways. We make sure to 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: do that. I would say, yes, okay, that would be nice. Yeah, 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: we'll just we're just gonna try to keep them happy 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: when the talent is in the room. If you don't 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: keep them happy, they're gonna walk out at any moment. 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: We've seen it. You got me coffee. That's pretty much. 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: It's one way too. When your son Max can first talk, 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: maybe he'll call you NFL media insider. Ian. I was 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: just talking. I was talking to my wife about this yesterday. 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: What we were going to try to have him do 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: is address adults as sir and ma'am like a good kid. 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: That'll be a nice touch. He'll know you as Mr. 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Greg I'm struggling, that's right, We're struggling to take you 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: serious with holding the headphones. That us how people do it. 67 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: No one's ever done that in the history of this student. 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I think that's how they do it. The gold centered 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: behind the glass. How are you, buddy, duding? Great? Thanks? Um? 70 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: How is everything with you? Yeah? You know, pretty pretty 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: light weekend. He doesn't really care. It's just that. No, 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm putting down the golden Tate to the Titans. Prediction 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: is hanging in the air over everyone from our famous game. 74 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Now Friday's go get my lunch. It's going to be 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: inc people are excited. Why don't we that supposed to 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: be unsaid? Let's start and do some news. Why don't 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: we let's do it all right? This broke right as 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: we were coming upstairs. The Carolina Panthers are attempting to 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: trade wide receiver Steve Smith Purse sources per source informed 80 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: of their plans. This comes from Ian Rappaport. So why 81 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: don't we throw Yeah? Not I hate to say it, 82 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: but not entirely surprised. It's been like a just a 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: weird situation around Steve Smith. And you know, really since 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Dave Gettlman kind of spoke at the Combine and was 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: vague about just whether he would even be on the roster, 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: just sort of spoke about him in kind of a 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: little bit of past tense. Has had a great career, 88 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and you start to wonder kind of what's going on, 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: and then you know Steve is around, he's on TV. 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: He won't address his future, mostly because he doesn't really know, 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: you know. There what the Panthers have told him is 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: they're going through the process, and what the processes is 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: taking a thirty four year old receiver with a cap 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: charge of seven million and seeing if you can get 95 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: anything for him, which to me means it's a guy 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: you don't think it's going to be on the field 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: for you next year. Let's be honest about who created 98 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: this story Super Sluice at the NFL Combine, Greg Rosent 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: and Mark what a little Barry Harrowood's patting on the 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: back action right now? Greg and Mark created this story? 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: Well we Mark initially brought up the Steve Smith thing 102 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: to Ghettomen and he just had such a weird answer. 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: We started following up and we were wondering, are we're 104 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: making too much out of this? And then we asked 105 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Rivera about it the next day as well, and and 106 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: I guess we weren't making too much out of this. 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: How are you taking this? I mean, Steve Smith has 108 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: been one of your favorite players, my favorite player of 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: the last decade probably. What are your thoughts here? I 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: think we had that stat when we were doing playoff previews? 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: Did he was second only to Calvin Johnson and players 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: over twenty yards from two thousand eleven to twelve And 113 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: last year there were a hundred thirty five players with 114 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: more plays with twenty yards and him, so the drop 115 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: off came quickly. Let me ask you guys a question. 116 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: What could this guy get on the trade market? Is 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: he somebody that you think they will be able to move? 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: Could he get a fourth round pick? A third round pick? Like? 119 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: What is Steve Smith's value? I think it's the c 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: J two K treatment. I think he'll be cut by Tuesday, 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: by the time free agency starts there soon enough, Ian 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: you think, I mean there's no chance to get anything 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: for him. I mean I would be very surprised. I mean, 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: you know, it would have to be like a seventh 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: rounder or something, just someone where you say, I'm just 126 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm I'm gonna trade a conditional seventh 127 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: rounder for the right to get this guy in training camp. 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: But you know third before, he's been a beast for 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: a long time. But when it goes wrong, it goes 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: wrong fast in the NFL. You know what you said 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: that stuck with me is that they didn't think he 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be on the field next year. Because this 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: isn't all about the money. He has a lot of 134 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: guaranteed money this year that they're gonna have to pay 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: him anyways. They'll probably call him a June one post 136 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: June one cut when they do cut him, but they 137 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: don't save that much money from cutting him, So this 138 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: is really about we don't want to pay you that 139 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: actual cash, so they save some money there, but they 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: don't save much kaperum because we don't think you're that 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: good anymore. That's basically what it is, right. I can 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: already see it now that he signed somewhere else with 143 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: a contender and has one of the great like fu seasons. 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I got one for you. He's a California guy, I think, 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: born and raised in l A. I don't know. Maybe 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners is the third receiver. I don't know. 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: They're looking to get faster, that's true. That would be 148 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: a slow group. It's ready, it's ready a slow I 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: mean it's to me the Patriots have feasted on guys 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: like this for years. I mean Andre Carter. Uh, you 151 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: know these types of guys who come back Johnson, Joey Galloway, 152 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Gerard Warrant. Yeah, it didn't work out. He'll be great 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: as long as he's in that third receiver type of role. 154 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be a big time starting 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: sad though, sad to see Steve Smith leaf. That's one 156 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: of the worst things about this is that when it 157 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: when you see a guy's skills declined, happened so fast. 158 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember Ocho Cinco with the Patriots, just 159 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: like I can't believe this guy used to be. That's 160 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: what happened to Sessler. That's here it's been difficult moving 161 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: forward again. Ian Rapp Report reported Monday that the Seattle 162 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks have resigned Michael Bennett, who comes off the market 163 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: with a four year contract. What can he tell us 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: about this deal? You it's a little bit less than 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: then I thought then he was offered other places. I 166 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: mean it's you know, it's seven in the year, when 167 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin is getting more than that. You know, it's 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: it's odd. I mean, obviously he wanted to be back. 169 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things. You know, if 170 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you want negotiating leverage, you pretend like you don't want 171 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: to come back. Well, Michael Bedden was in their building 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: yesterday two days ago, hanging out. Clearly wanted to be back, 173 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: and even with the thing with his brother, like it 174 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: was sort of like a half hearted uh you know, yeah, 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Chicago will be like, no, this guy wanted to come back, 176 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: and they wanted to have him back. It was obvious 177 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: fit from the beginning. Do you like the signing, I 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: mean keeping him in there, I mean they got him 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: at a bargain discount. Now it seems like they kind 180 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: of have him at a good rate. Get John Snodder. 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: It seems like he knows what he's doing. Potentially, Yeah, 182 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and I think this might Yeah, they won the Super Bowl, Dan, 183 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: that's good. According to sources, I think this might mean, 184 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: we'll see, but it might mean the end of Chris 185 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Clements too big cap charge. Uh, coming off an a 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: c l obvious sleep, it's gonna be. It's a lot 187 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: of money in one position. I wouldn't be surprised to 188 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: see that. Let's dive into how all this free agency 189 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: speculation sometimes works. Because we were hearing so strongly, Oh, 190 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: the Bears are really gonna go after him, and know 191 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: they're price his prices right, And there were a couple 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: of Chicago papers especially that really on Sunday started hitting 193 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: that hard that the Bears are ready to do it. 194 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: You're you're a man. Take us a peek behind the current. 195 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: How does this all work? You know, where does this 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: come from? Well, you know, I think what what happened? 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you know it comes from It comes 198 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: from agents, a lot of it, and you know it 199 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: comes from teams too. And you know, a general manager, 200 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: in my experience, is rarely going to say, yes, we're 201 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: going after this guy because there's nothing worse than you know, 202 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: the Bears try to sign Michael Bennett and then they didn't, 203 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, okay, great, well we could have got 204 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and then every time you see him you're like, oh, great, 205 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: we could have got that guy. Um, But you know, 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: it comes from a lot of times the lower level 207 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: of people in the organization who just will who just 208 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: will say it, and they sometimes will say it to me, 209 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes we'll say it to other reporters, like yeah, 210 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: we're going after this guy, that's right. And you know, 211 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I think with with Bennett, you know, he had an 212 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: offer for a while from the Seahawks, didn't really address it, 213 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and then went and shopped himself, saw what he could get. 214 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: And the problem is, I'm not sure, you know, I 215 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: think it's it got a little spicy yesterday or the 216 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: day before when it seemed the Bears really interested. But 217 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the Seahawks ever believed that he was living. 218 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: To me, when you see those reports, just having watches 219 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: for a while, you you just sort of think they're 220 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: they're wanting to stay with Seattle potentially, and they're trying 221 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to get Seattle to raise the price. So they let 222 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: it out there that Chicago is all into it, or 223 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: the forty Niners, which come on, I mean, never made sense. 224 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: What oh the forty niners. It's such a perfect contract, 225 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: seven million dollars a year, for the first three years, 226 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: because that's a contract you get to a very good 227 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: starter that's not dominant, and he's not a superstar, but 228 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: he's a great player for them, and it's putting him 229 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: at the exact right level so that they're not over pain. 230 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: But they might now have to cut Chris Clemens and 231 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: make other big moves. Lamar Woodley signed a six year, 232 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: sixty one point five million dollar deal with the Steelers 233 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: after the two thousand eleven lockout. We're now learning that 234 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: he will be released, will be designated a post June 235 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: one cut. UH. That was a tough situation for the Steelers, 236 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: the Lamar uh, the Lamar Woodley era. It was I 237 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: think he had thirty five sacks in the three seasons 238 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: before that and had half that number into three seasons 239 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: since he signed. And there were a lot of complaints. 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Ian probably picked up on a lot of this in Pittsburgh, 241 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: a lot of complaints that he was out of shape 242 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: the last few years. He was a tough guy for 243 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: us to rank on our top one oh one free 244 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: agent lists, and we decided to put him pretty high. Ian. 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: We we put him around twenty one, and because he's 246 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: still young and he still has a chance to be 247 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the only good outside linebacker on this whole market. And 248 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: when he's played, he's always been a factor. He's just 249 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: been injured lately, and he's still pretty young. It is. 250 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: It is a weird outside linebacker market. Um. You know, 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: he he came in, he came in to camp in 252 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: shape this year, which was good, and you sort of 253 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: thought he was going to maybe have that that bounce 254 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: back here and then he just got injured. And the 255 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: problem is, like you, guys, I don't know what kind 256 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: of player he is. I know what kind of player 257 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: has been. I mean, he's been very, very good. He's 258 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: been sort of the classic Steelers you know, outside linebacker, 259 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, pass rusher, hits hard. Uh. I just don't 260 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: know what he is right now. Uh. And and I 261 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: mean I think this was clear when they when they 262 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 1: transition tag Jason World's this was and he signed immediately. 263 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, this was something that was pretty clear to 264 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: see coming. I think he's an interesting guy to go. Like, 265 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: like I said, we had a tough time a where 266 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: to put him. He could have been anywhere from fifteen 267 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: to fifty. I think you could have made a good 268 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: case for but there aren't many guys that are still 269 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: relatively young with that kind of production in the past. 270 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Only a couple of years ago, he was one of 271 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: the better pass wreshers in the league. Ian, you should 272 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: know that these two gentlemen, Wes and Greg are known 273 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: as the Scientists for the way they've talked about this 274 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: list formulating it. Both Mark and myself have watched it 275 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: all happen. Sometimes they get mad at each other, scientists 276 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: going at each other. I'll have to read it one time. Wow, 277 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: I just realized by the way what Ian looks like. 278 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: The way he's holding his microphone, You're like a nineteen 279 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: eighties video when they're at the benefit like for Starving 280 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Children studio. It's like belting out some holiday jingle. Well, 281 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: that's what I feel like. Yeah, it's kind of one 282 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: of those things where like I'm kind of the DJ, 283 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and I'm listening to the record that's about to come 284 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: up in one ear and then listen. You know, it's 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: another way to go. That would be like the cooler 286 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: you watched Jersey Shore, you know what DJ did, Like, Oh, yeah, 287 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: of course you would be the least hip DJ. Ever, No, 288 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's accurate. All right, it would be. 289 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: It would be. It would be Hi Popp from like 290 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven to about would be it. It's kind 291 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: of like West some Souls of Mischief. Um, how are 292 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: we not getting to Master p yet? How has that 293 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: not been dropped? As that's true, I did have like 294 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: a five minute rant. I still wanted to go in 295 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: from Master but this show is too chock full of stuff. 296 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I know. Let's move on to expected moves by the 297 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Jets that have now happened. Uh Santonio Holmes and Antonio 298 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: Antonio Crimarti of both been released by the team. This 299 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: obviously clears a lot of salary cap but also clears 300 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: headaches for the Jets, who dealt with Holmes for way 301 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: too long. Cremarti could be back. Let me ask you Ian, 302 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: as the NFL media insider, that is what you're known as. 303 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of that. I've heard that. Yes, 304 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: Will Crimarti b in the Jets uniform Week one very doubtful. 305 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean they didn't. They didn't offer to restructure, they 306 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't offer pay car I was I thought they would, 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: and I think that is their plan originally, And then 308 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: he said on the radio say they didn't, So how 309 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: bad did they want to keep him? Um? He just 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a John Zick type guy. Um. And 311 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: what's interesting. So there's two things here. One, he's definitely 312 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: in position to sign somewhere for cheap and just have 313 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: a ridiculous year because he's a great athlete and he's 314 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: we've seen him play very very well. Um, and the 315 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Jets had a lot of cap space, they might they 316 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: might be pretty interesting. I mean I don't know, like 317 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what they're gonna do. Um and 318 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: how whether Zick's going to be a spend a ton 319 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: on Tuesday or a get me five mid level guys 320 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: by Friday kind of guy. But they might really do 321 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: some stuff. So you think they'll be active at cornerback especially. 322 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be active at corner I think they'll 323 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: be active at pass rusher. Uh, probably running back, I 324 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: would imagine. Yeah, I'd be surprised if they didn't add 325 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: at least to name brand offensive play by the end 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: of the week. At least. I mean the you know 327 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: they could receiver. I mean there's you know, it's really 328 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: talking up this. I'm gonna sign right when free agency starts. 329 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: He's on record he mentioned the Jets and the Giants 330 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: as two of the teams. Well, he's he's a big 331 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: New York guy. He likes he likes Broadway shows, he 332 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: likes art. He's this is why you're the insider, you know, 333 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: NFL media inside. It's true. Well, what kind musicals or 334 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: more like he likes the plays, he likes those, he 335 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: likes culture. He's a smart guy. There's nothing wrong with 336 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: going to plays. It's you know, it's okay. I went 337 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: to a play the other night. Where were you was? It? 338 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Probably at home drinking alone. Wait, you went to a 339 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: play in Dallas. There's like a traveling you shouldn't go 340 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: to yes it council. When I was in Boston, we 341 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: used to go to what those the high school play? No, 342 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: it was like a real It was the we Will 343 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Rock You Queen themed plays. Great. It's kind of like 344 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: going to an arena football leagu game. I mean, you know, 345 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: it's something, but it's professional, but it's not the top 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: level my own. I've only been to one arena league 347 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: football game and I met Dr Dre and Ed Lover 348 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: in the stands. Wow, not not the good Doctor Dre 349 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: but the other one he used to be right, there's 350 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: people listening do not even know there was another Dr Dre, 351 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: the host of Yo MTV Rap, who was more famous 352 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: than nobody even knew who the real Doctor Dre was. 353 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: When Dr Dre and ed lover right, they were great. 354 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: And who's the man? I just want to give you 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: credit for knowing that Werner loves Broadway place, I mean 356 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: five years old. That's I'm gonna be bringing it up 357 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: on air tomorrow when he signed, Well, there's no way 358 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't sign with the Jesser Giants. Guys got to 359 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: get to Broadway. Who would you rather have homes or 360 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: chrom Marty for next year? For one year? Let's say there, 361 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: Let's say Homes is a little cheaper because he should 362 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: be Chromes, because Cromarty, because Peter Cromarty, because Holmes is 363 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: a crazy for it. I can't argue any of that. 364 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Whoa what you can say what you want. This is 365 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: a safe zone here could be repeated outse no one listens. 366 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: I would say for for both players, I would say 367 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: he is not crazy and I'll tell you why. Well, No, 368 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go that far. Home 369 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: is his own. He's his own kind of guy. But 370 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, if he's healthy, I think homes homes homes. 371 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: That goes back to great Adam Carolla theory. Whenever you 372 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: hear someone say like Jeff and you know, just a 373 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: nice guy. But if they go Jeff, Oh, Jeff's Jeff, 374 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: then that means that they're basically an age. Name me 375 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: another player who got kicked out of his own offensive huddle. 376 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: That's that's the only time in NFL history that's ever happened. 377 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: All Right, I have some little quick hitters here, so 378 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: we'll just go through other news and then we'll get 379 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: into some speculation. Everson Griffin and the Vikings have struck 380 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: a five year deal. West your thoughts, Everson Griffin and 381 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: half million, twenty million guaranteed career seventeen and a half sacks, 382 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: which is four and a half more than Jared Owen's 383 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: best season, or four and a half less than Jared 384 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Owen's best season. Kind of incongruous ness there, I guess. 385 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: But Griffin, seen as a versatile guy, very athletic, was 386 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: one of the better backup situational pass rushers in the 387 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: NFL the last couple of years. I think that's the 388 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: contract that showed people are gonna get paid this year. 389 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: Don't you think that one, well, Grimes, Grimes was the 390 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: one for me. But that's Sam Shield that that's a 391 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: contract that other agents and teams are seeing, and agents 392 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: are clapping and cheering and all sorts of stuff. You 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: might remember from a few weeks back, Richard Mendenhall wrote 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: that open letter for some publication. It seems to be 395 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: hinting at retirement or at least swimming in the middle 396 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: of the ocean. It was something going on. But now 397 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: it's official he is retiring. He wrote another um piece 398 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: today or a piece this weekend in the Huffington's Post 399 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: that he has done. Um. I'll just one quote from 400 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: I've always been a professional, but I am not an 401 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: entertainment entertain in her he's out. He's leaving the NFL 402 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: twenties six years old, blames fantasy football in part. Right, Yeah, 403 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: that was part of it. It was a very dancing 404 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: with the starters. He wasn't that guy and he brought 405 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: up dancing with the start. It's a very loosenko too. 406 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: I think he's young though, and uh, it was an 407 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: interesting column. Chris and I were talking about it yesterday, 408 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: and we were just saying how glad we were that 409 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: no one was listening to what we were saying when 410 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: we were twenty five or twenty six, because we would 411 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: have sounded like an idiot. I listened to what Dan 412 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: was saying when he was twenty He was horrible. But 413 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I will not deny any of that. Uh. Jason Babin 414 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: voids his deal with the Jaguars. He had two years 415 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: about six million a year. Um, they weren't gonna pay 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: him that, so I guess he beat him to the punch. 417 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 1: Void at his deal. He becomes a free agent. I'm 418 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: putting this down for one second. Okay, Now, this is 419 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: what happens. He takes it off. He is the NFL 420 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: media insider. The phone is in his hand, he's scrolling. 421 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: This means something's going on, Fellas and someone has been traded. 422 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Something's happening. Hair is still in place, Beau said, it 423 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: has never been touched. All right, let's keep going, all right, 424 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't more fascinating to watch. It's I 425 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: guess the listeners don't get to soaking in. But he's 426 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: at work, so Baban, what is his value at this point, 427 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Greg and I were trying to decide if he was 428 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: even in the top twenty or top fifteen defensive ends available. 429 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: He's just borderline there. He's thirty four years old, seven 430 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. He's like a borderline starter. I 431 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: guess he didn't crack our top one O one, so 432 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: that that should say at all, um, Arthur Jones West 433 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: is drawing very real interest from Colts. According to NFL 434 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: media insider Ian rappaport, Hey, we were playing, Um what 435 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: was that? Michael Bush has been released. This is all 436 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: happening in real time right now. Uh, this is not 437 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna seem fresh when you listen to him. But as 438 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: as life was happening in the studio, ends back, the 439 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: ends back. Um, we'll get to that in a second 440 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: gold standard behind the glass. Um, can you play something 441 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: from Friday Show? From Go Get My Lunch? Arthur Jones 442 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Ravens defensive man, older brother of Patriots sack masters Chandler 443 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Jones and m m A Fighter John Bones Jones Jim 444 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Horrible or John Horrible said the other day, if you 445 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: put the game tape on, you know teams are going 446 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: to bid high on this guy. I'm taking the colts. 447 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: You guys get the rest of the field. I mocked 448 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: West on Twitter yesterday when or Sunday when there was 449 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: some speculation that other teams were interested in not the cults, 450 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and now it looks like I'm gonna owe you a sandwich, 451 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: so well we'll see. Yeah, there's still a lot of 452 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: teams interested. Per pretty good about yourself downstairs. I am 453 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: feeling that was a bold bet. That was so if 454 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: you missed Friday Show. I and I know you're a 455 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: religious listen show, but I almost clicked on it one time. 456 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: But if if anyone listening didn't listen to Friday Show, 457 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: we started a new game called go get My Lunch, 458 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: and uh, we we put something on the table, a statement, 459 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: and uh, if you want to challenge that the person 460 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: on that statement, they have to go get you a lunch. 461 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: And so that was a really bold one. So West 462 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: would be down three lunches if he was wrong. What 463 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: is your confidence level that we're going to be getting 464 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Chris a fancy sandwich? I think he's getting a sandwich, yes, 465 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: three of them. And he was getting a lot of interest. 466 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: And then I heard this today and you're kind of like, 467 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: you know what that actually makes more sense than anything. 468 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Pagana loves him. Uh, he's a tough dude 469 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: and he just fits what they like. He'd be great 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: in that locker room. Um, I think it makes a 471 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And yeah, I mean I think for 472 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: a guy who likes sandwiches, and I think he could 473 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: be eating one. Um, what I'm talking about was a 474 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: swich of you love sandwiches. You take pictures of any pictures, 475 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of food pictures, you know what you're proud 476 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: about the because a lot of people are like I 477 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: don't like when people put food on their Instagram or 478 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: or Facebook. Means the guy, It's like, I don't care 479 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm putting out there anyway, Well what I spent. There's 480 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: a lot of dumb things that I tweet. Um. Yeah, 481 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of dumb things that tweet. Um. 482 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: But food gets a really good response to mainly because 483 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: I feel like I have a lot of heat, I 484 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: have good quality control, you know, like there's not crap 485 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: on there. It's just like this is a really tasty 486 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: looking whatever. Well, I have less problem with seeing your 487 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: food pictures. Then I would have be next to you 488 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: at the moment you're taking the food pictures because my 489 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: wife does that as well. She takes food pictures and 490 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: it really annoyed me for a while. I've gotten used 491 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: to it. But you're at a nice restaurant, you're having 492 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: a time, and you and you take out the photo. 493 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Something seems wrong about that. There's only 494 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: one thing that's bad, and it's the flash. And that's 495 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: the real embarrassing at a table and all of a sudden, 496 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the flash goat. Everyone's like, oh, that guy is taking 497 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: a pictures like a built in punishment. Yeah, but it 498 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: doesn't you know the bank dress. Your wife's famous on Twitter. Yes, 499 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: she doesn't get enough time with the NFL media insider. 500 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: And here you are at dinner. You're not even paying attention, 501 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: you're just snapping photos. Well we she she is also 502 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: a food instagram. But I have I have since tried, 503 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: from the hours of like seven to ten or whenever 504 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: she passes out, I have I have since tried to 505 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: put the phone down. Uh whether no food pictures, no, no, nothing, 506 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: just from that sort of safe zone as hands it 507 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: might see. We get we get into it on the podcast, 508 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: we get deep into the personal, the family. I'm just 509 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: curious NFL. Now our digital network is launching this summer. 510 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: How long until Ian and the Bank, Triss and Max 511 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: all have a reality show? What makes you think we 512 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: don't have one already? You're probably locked in. I could 513 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: totally see it, all right, Why settle for network? Now, 514 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: let's put this on the big boy. What I'm saying, 515 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: you don't think it's a big time Hey, I'm just 516 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: saying figure speaking into that right now, knocking at the door? Um, 517 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, fellas anything else we need to? Oh, Michael Bush, 518 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: what happened? I just got released? Okay, that's about all 519 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: I know. I thought about that. I guess that wasn't 520 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: That wasn't a great signing either. Ultimately, in terms, for 521 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: a couple of years, Ford has been as good as 522 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: they thought. So maybe it's kind of like, which was 523 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: good is a running back? You know? That sign always 524 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: seemed weird to me because you would have thought he 525 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: would get his own starting job and he settled that. 526 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: It's hard to get paid as a running I mean, 527 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna see, unfortunately, we're gonna see this 528 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: year when it's I don't know, we'll find out, but 529 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: when it's Thursday or Friday in no Shamrado, still trying 530 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: to figure out where he's going. You've heard the running 531 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: back market, which isn't a shock. It's gonna be very quiet. 532 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Quiet is what you expect. Even guys like la Garrett 533 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: Blundh is coming off a strong end of the year. 534 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: You don't think he'll get much no. I mean, you know, 535 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: I could see it being in the good a good deal, 536 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: being in the Shawn Green three to three for ten range, 537 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: which would be fine. I mean, Bond got that, that 538 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: would be good. I mean, how much better is bent 539 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: Hait than Michael Bush right now? And he's We've agreed, 540 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: he's maybe the best running back on the market five 541 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: years younger probably. I'm not a big Michael Bush guy 542 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: at this point. He's not gonna I don't think he's 543 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna crack our top one on one talk about doing 544 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: something live. Let's make this decision live. Toby Gerhardt's the 545 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: last running back on the list. Uh, the last one 546 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: before that is a scientist talk you could work on. 547 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: I s this out as well. I would I've been 548 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: trying to get this move done for a while now. 549 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I would put him in and take out Kendrick Lewis. 550 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Are you and you're Kendrick Lewis stuff. He's just been 551 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: killing Kendrick Lewis as a guy who should not be 552 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: on this list. All right, Actually, Ian, I'm glad you're 553 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: here because you're someone that can answer such a ridiculous question. 554 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Who do you think gets more guaranteed money? Mike Mitchell 555 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: or Kendrick Lewis. We have a sandwich on the line 556 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: before the game even happened. He's such a weird one 557 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: because he really is fairly talented. He actually played pretty 558 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: well this year. That's what I'm talking about. I'll probably 559 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: go him, yeah, but we'll see. I don't have to 560 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: pay anything if I lose. Sorry, Dad, I know I've 561 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: just completely ruined our game here, Dan had Dan has 562 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: tuned out and he's now writing things on the talk. 563 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: I go, I stay out of the last I'm gonna draw. 564 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: So Dan's got crayons. He's like the kid at the 565 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: restaurant when they get the crayons. And then there's also 566 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: the game with the pins, you know, like that's it 567 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: home running. Okay, So after did you're here? By the way, 568 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: do you want to play a game with us? No? 569 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: You don't really have a choice. Lean you're in here already, 570 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: gold Stander behind the glass. I think it's time, don't 571 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: you let's do it? Why from Culver City, California. It's 572 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: America's favorite game show more. You know you got your 573 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: NFL network TV shows and you know that's fancy production. 574 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: But how about that? Yeah? I like how you had 575 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: to kind of wake him up to uh. He's like 576 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: gold said, it does great, and he's like what scratch 577 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: scratches his eyes, yawns. I'm sorry, push the button. All right, 578 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: So this is how the game works. I'm gonna put 579 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: on my wink tie. Is that what it is? West? Okay, 580 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask a question and ask what's more likely? 581 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: Makes sense? Right? Yeah? Self explainatory. It's one of my 582 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: favorite games. Of the couple of games you play, what 583 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: more likely? Alright, Fells, what's more likely DeMarcus Ware is 584 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: cut by the Cowboys or Steve Smith is cut by 585 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: the Panthers? Well, I would say Steve Smith. After today's news, 586 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: you have to go Steve Smith. I still think DeMarcus 587 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Ware has he's expressed the willingness to be a good 588 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: team guy and take less. I just if it's haggling 589 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: over a million or two. I can't see him saying, 590 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: you know what, just cut me. Don't you think this 591 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: whole DeMarcus where conversation about getting cut is just a 592 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of talk. Can you Can you really imagine Jerry 593 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Jones releasing DeMarcus where this year, after all the over 594 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: emotional decisions they've made over the years, where they keep 595 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: guys who aren't very good way too long some teams, 596 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: but not the Cowboys. I mean, if if we're talking 597 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: like the you know, if it's the Patriots or something, 598 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: if it's the Ravens, I would, yeah, I think it's possible. 599 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, I just I don't see it. So 600 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: this is a stair down, I think, yeah, but I 601 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: think both sides kind of know what's going on. So 602 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're under the cap now, right, So it's 603 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: not there. You know, it was painted. And this speaks 604 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: to your point, Greg a couple of weeks ago that 605 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: sometimes the salary cap stuff it gets um, you know, overvalued. 606 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: About these teams being in deep trouble, everybody was saying 607 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were in a really bad spot. The restructure, 608 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: a couple of deals, and all of a sudden they're 609 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: under So do you think they'll be active. I think 610 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: they'll look at defensive line like I think they could. 611 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: I think Henry Melton would make a lot of sense 612 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: for them. And I think they need a little money. Uh, 613 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: they could be in the safety market. I think that 614 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: could be interesting too. They've struggled over the years trying 615 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: to sign safeties. They've spent a lot of bad money 616 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: and safe. Do you think the Redskins are gonna be 617 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: very active? The free agency market is more fun when 618 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Redskins are spending stupid money. I 619 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: think the Redskins will be active. Um. I think their 620 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: players for to help that defense. For Jared's Bird for 621 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: keep to leab. Um, Mike Mitchell, what was that? What 622 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: was that first safety? You mentioned? Again? His name is 623 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: Jared's bird he Oh my god, there multiple pronunciations are 624 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: all accepted. I just gotta know. Wow, Um that guy. 625 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. What more likely Eric Decker 626 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: signs with the Colts or Hakim Knicks signs with the Panthers. 627 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: And keep in mind there were reports on Twitter that 628 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: Steve Smith's jersey was pulled from the Panthers team shop today. 629 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I'm just saying I 630 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: saw it. You know, I would have gone with Decker 631 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: to the Colts before the news on Steve Smith broke today. 632 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: Now the Panthers seemed desperate for a wide receiver, don't they. 633 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to keem Nicks to the Panthers. Can I 634 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: go both? We're just guessing though you have information. I 635 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: would go both. But which one would you be more 636 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: sure about? What's more likely? Oh? What's more like? Playing 637 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: the game. It's funny you took Sessler's chair and you 638 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: took over his mealy mouth. You know, in decision in 639 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: this game, I'll go with I'll go with I'll go 640 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: with Decker. Probably is more likely. I like this. Okay, 641 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: see when West and I are answering these questions. You know, 642 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to give any trade secrets away, but 643 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: we're just pulling stuff out of you know. Yeah, definitely, 644 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: But what he is doing, it's like it's based on 645 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: some real information. So that's interesting. He is the NFL 646 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: media insider. I was gonna go with Decker even before 647 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: he and said that, and now I'm definitely gonna go 648 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Come on. I love that fit too. Yeah, I like that. 649 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: I like that more Chad Henny is a sixteen game starter. 650 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: The other thing, Matt Castle is a sixteen game kind 651 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: of question. What's more like, Fellas, we kind of need 652 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: to see what happens in the draft to see which 653 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: one picks the first round quarterback. No, I don't think 654 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: we have to wait for that. Let's go huh. Well, 655 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: I'll start with Castle because he's slightly better as a player, 656 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: and I think there's a better chance somehow that the 657 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Vikings don't draft a really top notch quarterback in the 658 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: first round then the Texans, And no matter what Chad 659 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Henny does, he's got to get replaced. It doesn't matter 660 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: who else is on the team. He'll eventually get replaced. 661 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm going Castle. I agree with you. Well, and Castle, 662 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: you gotta sell the sizzle a little bit to keep 663 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: the viewers listening. I agree for you with you for 664 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: the same reasons. And I can't watch Hanny quarterback sixteen 665 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: games again, I'm going with Henny. I don't think it's 666 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: a given that they draft a quarterback. I think there's 667 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: still a year or more away, so I don't think 668 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna reach for one. If they don't love him, 669 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: Whereas the Vikings are definitely closer to being a contender, 670 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: and I think they may draft a quarterback in the 671 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: first round. What more likely Santonio Holmes resigns with the 672 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: Jets or Usher become a speaker of the house. Wow, 673 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: it's a serious question, Usher, why house? You left it 674 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: a little vague? That's representative. Maybe it's just in his house. 675 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm going Ush's replacing John Bonner. I'm gonna I'm gonna 676 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: go with Usher. I think he'd be really good. He 677 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: seems to the people are behind him. He's well spoken, 678 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: he's rich. You know why why? Because it's seven o'clock 679 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: on the top, I mean my droptop. Oh wow, what 680 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: was that? I don't know. I think it is. It 681 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: sounds like if you've gotta go, Usher, I think you 682 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: gotta go all the way. But I love that that 683 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: was Do you know what was that? An Usher song? Uh? 684 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: It was something I heard back in the bar Mitzvah era. 685 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if this is I think that 686 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: falls in Ian dj E. Well, he would he didn't 687 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: come out until the late nighties. I guess he could 688 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: have gotten the back end. I thought most people would 689 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: go something like, yeah, remember that one, how's that going? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 690 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: and then the who had the great guest verse at 691 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: the end of that one, result it on. We've got 692 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: to keep that as a as a drop for future 693 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: show whenever I don't know makes his debut as a rapper. 694 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: You don't know that song. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. No, No, 695 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: it sounds if there's no way you made that up 696 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. So it sounds great. Wait are we 697 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: are we allowed to jump in? Wink? I would love 698 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: for you to jump in. Wink says it's okay, Wink Martindale. 699 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: He always hosts the game shows. That's kind of his 700 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: that's his thing. But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask question 701 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: a question as well, or maybe a couple. Al Right, well, 702 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: you gotta see Wink knows the production side of this. 703 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. What more, what's more likely Fante Davis 704 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: is the highest paid cornerback on the market or alter 705 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: Ron Werner is the highest paid cornerback on the market. 706 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Ian answer this first. And if you 707 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: think neither one of them it's going to be the 708 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: highest paid, then just tell me. I'm an idiot. I 709 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: mean it would it would take a lot to eclipse 710 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: Shields deal. Um, but they are free and he wasn't. 711 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: You don't think you think Shields might end up being 712 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: the top back after all this. Vante is a very 713 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: very good player, but he's been inconsistent. And so if 714 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: you're someone who if he doesn't sign with the Colts, 715 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: then you're someone who's gonna say, we're picking the good side. 716 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: So maybe he breaks the bank. Uh. And Alter and 717 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: Werner has been very good, but only but not for 718 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: that long. He didn't even start out as the starter 719 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: of this year for them. Could to leave get that money, 720 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: that that level of money? Could it's Redskins could What 721 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: what are the issues with Davis that would be preventing 722 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: him from a big contract? Not talent, but it would 723 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: be inconsistency, some immaturity. Um, but you know he could 724 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: get it. It It only takes one. I wouldn't be surprised, 725 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: but uh, it's a it's an it's an odd cornerback group. 726 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: There's no like Durell Reeves out there. For instance. I 727 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: think Verner has been the better player between the two, 728 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: but Davis has seen in the NFL is more talented. 729 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: I think that the word immaturity means Ian's got some 730 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: real dirt, but he won't spill it to us. But 731 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: maybe the next time around, he's got to keep sil 732 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: it on the inside. All Right, Verner gets a higher deal. 733 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: I think somebody would, well, why why do you say that? 734 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: Because it seems like he has more teams interested in him. 735 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: That seems like it's me, But that could just be 736 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: that he has allowed mouth agent. Yeah, do you do 737 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: you find me in that? When you're seeing all these 738 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: reports over the weekend, especially all the stuff coming out 739 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: that the players that seem the most popular are sometimes 740 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: just the ones that have agents that leak everything that 741 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: there are often really popular players that you don't hear 742 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: that much about because they're not trying to play the 743 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 1: whole media game. Yeah, and there's a and there's a couple. 744 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of good agents who just 745 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: say nothing until they absolutely have to and they don't 746 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: care about any of this. Um. But you know, I don't. 747 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: I really don't think it matters either way. Um, it 748 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: matters some in the in the world of public perception, 749 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of people who think a lot 750 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: of teams are going after all Tom Werner, but there 751 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: also are a lot of teams going after them. So 752 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't think it really matters. It's like, 753 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, Eugene Parker hasn't been all over the media 754 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: talking about Jared's Byrden. Who's interested? Um, but I think 755 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot of teams are interested. You know. It's just 756 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I think in the end, it's interesting. We we get 757 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: to find out about it. It's kind of fun. The 758 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: weekend was wild and ridiculous. Everyone's interested in everyone, Um, 759 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure it means a whole lot. I guess, Greg, 760 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: do you have another one? What more? Michael Johnson goes 761 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: down as the highest paid player in this free agent class, 762 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: or Jari's bird goes down as the highest paid player 763 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: Michael Johnson. I say Michael Johnson too, really, just because 764 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: no one pays safeties like over ten million a year. 765 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: If you're setting nods, is Johnson the favorite? Would he 766 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: be the favorite of everyone? Eugene Monroe is another name 767 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: I could throw in there. Albert I would say, if 768 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: I had to say right now, I'd say it's Michael 769 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: Johnson or Brandon Albert and it'll both be in the 770 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: range of nine million dollar. You guys are sleeping on 771 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: Jerius birds bird. Is his value gonna be? Is he 772 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna is he? Everybody knows he's trying to be the 773 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: highest paid safety. Is he gonna scare teams off? And 774 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: somehow bring him back to the bills, as was my 775 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: prediction on Friday, shocking the world anyway that happens in Yeah, 776 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: I like to see it happen. Bills have left the 777 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: door open. It's negotiations have been fine. They just bills 778 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: set a price. They say, this is what we think 779 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: it is. He has wanted very badly to go out 780 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: and seek what is my value on the open market? 781 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: And the bill said, is he scaring teams away? Maybe 782 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: with this price tag a little bit? No, there's a 783 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: little bit of that going around. I don't, I don't. 784 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he's scaring anyone. I think it's just 785 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: what two people think is his value. And he's a 786 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: he's a safety. He's very very good, but he's safety. 787 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: You know. It's if he gets nine million a year, 788 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who go, Wow, I'm 789 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 1: not sure he's gonna get that, all right? Last one 790 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: what more Ian Rapp reports sleeps six consecutive hours at 791 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: any point this week, or Peyton and Eli go on 792 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: a countrywide bank robbing spray. What's more likely? Cantabat is 793 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: a big sleeping week for report no um, especially when 794 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: the phone is under the pillow. Is that where it goes? 795 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: Just because the vibration from texting you wake up, Because 796 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: some of these people wake up at like six and 797 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: they want they want to send news and so what 798 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: do you want? Okay? You know, does your wife resent 799 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: you for all the buzzing under the pillow or do 800 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: you sleep in a different bet at this point? Now 801 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: this is a little personal. Don't you think it's getting there? 802 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. Well, you're here in l A 803 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: this week, so it doesn't really matter, right, Um, this 804 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: week we'll be sleeping in different beds because I'm in 805 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: l A and she's in Dallas. But the phone is 806 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: usually thank I appreciate the confirmation. The phone is usually 807 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: on the night table. I want it's buzzing. Uh. She 808 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: gets very annoyed and sometimes I have to put it 809 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: on the floor or now usually put it underneath the pillow. 810 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: See this is how the sausage gets made. That's interesting. 811 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: Odd use of words there. I feel like, yeah, it's 812 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: so unfortunate, but I mean that was wink said that, 813 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: or they would say on archer phrasing, all right, before 814 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: we go, Ian Rappaport, what a lamb here for the 815 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: whole show today, looking at his phone, holding his headset 816 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: um like a live aid singer. Did a great job. 817 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in and that's real. Applause and 818 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: coming again, it's not real. Pause that was taped. How 819 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: long are you in l A this week? Leaving Thursday morning? 820 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: If I make it that far, we should all break 821 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: bread together at some point. No, I'm really busy, guys. Sorry, 822 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: that that is that's the endrap reporting nutshell. He's you know, 823 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: I like to call you like you're like a butt 824 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: head with a heart of gold. That's the compliment, right right. 825 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound It's like when you hear people talk about, 826 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: you know, really famous people that have made it like 827 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: and they're they're always like, oh, yeah, he's a regular guy, 828 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: like he's a man of the people. Those are the 829 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: types of things you never hear. And it's funny. There's 830 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: some people saying that, right, I can honestly say, having 831 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: known you before you became NFL media insider, you were 832 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: always this guy. So this is not an act like you. 833 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: You haven't changed. I have not changed. No, you're the 834 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: same guy you were when you were driving the green 835 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: Mustang at the drug must I missed my red Mustang. 836 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: So we thank you for coming on West before we go. 837 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 1: What's going on with the maps arrived? It's in the studio. 838 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the text to arrive, and I have 839 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: to all these places with great for the tax to arrive. 840 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: Like it's some sort of Amazon. He's like, I, I 841 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy. You can give 842 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: me some of these tax You guys are talking about Amazon, 843 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: Amazon past your prime has let me down. West, of 844 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: course is buying a map. So all the listeners around 845 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: the world, yes, the world, Ian Rappaport, can we could 846 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: put tax in wherever they're listening. So the project that 847 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: we're getting towards the home stretch the great the greater 848 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: part of the project is that all these tweets that 849 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: favorite it, I have to transfer to a spreadsheet or 850 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: something and then pin pin the actual matter. You were 851 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: regretting this yet, No, not at all. It sounds like 852 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: a fun deal, and I just want to give a 853 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: shout out to Scar the Raiders fan. He he sent 854 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: me a shirt. Um. I wrote about him on the 855 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: end Around and he sent me a shirt with some 856 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: writing on the back and my name on the back 857 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: of it, which is very nice of him. He's a 858 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: good man, Scar, a very loyal Raiders Raiders fan. Anything 859 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: else fells. That's all I got. Let's go, Let's go 860 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: write some news, all right. So that's it for today's podcast. 861 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday to talk about the 862 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: stay ups of the free agency period. Thanks again to 863 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: eat In. The gold standard behind the glass signing office 864 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 1: is Dan Jansas for the mailman, the boss until windsor 865 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: Gy Ruth fired