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Speaker 6: and before we get going, I do need to I

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Speaker 2: Exception number eleventh.

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Speaker 6: For those of us that live through it, it will

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Speaker 6: be indelibly imprinted on our brains, but those certainly for

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Speaker 6: those folks out there who have family members who perish

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Speaker 6: that day. I just think it's the right thing to

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Speaker 6: those folks because they still live with the horrible tragedy

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Speaker 6: So giving a shout out to those folks. And we're

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Speaker 6: definitely thinking and praying about you guys today, praying for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I too can say something too, there's

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Speaker 3: a couple of scouts that lost their lives too with.

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Speaker 2: The on the planes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, La Kings lost a couple of scouts and the

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Speaker 3: gentlemen doing things that we all love, evaluating players and

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Speaker 3: going and seeing games and these things. So, hey, Spailey,

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Speaker 3: you know these guys, we we all miss you. We

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Speaker 2: All Right, we appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: And let's go ahead and let's jump in to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of different things that have kind of

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Speaker 6: transpired over the last couple of days that we need

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Speaker 6: to hit. We will get to in the second segment,

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Speaker 6: our breakdown of the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 6: Brian and Vatch have some stuff there for us, but

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Speaker 6: let's start first with Deron Bland.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing that he has an injury?

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Speaker 3: Is it.

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Speaker 6: I've heard two different reports. I've heard a foot injury.

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Speaker 6: I've heard an ankle injury. I assume it's a I

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Speaker 6: think it's a foot injury. That's what I've heard more.

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Speaker 6: But what do we know right now as far as

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Speaker 6: the injury for Deron Bland?

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Speaker 3: Both both, Yeah, it's both. It's both. And I'm with you, Derek.

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Speaker 3: Initially it was I thought, man, it was that fifth

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Speaker 3: metatersal thing was a problem on the is his foot

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Speaker 3: But it's the opposite foot. It is a foot and injury.

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Speaker 3: least right now. And it was something that happened on Monday,

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Speaker 3: So that's uh that it's nothing. You think it came

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Speaker 3: practice injury. And so they're dealing with that. And watch

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Speaker 7: What is happening?

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Speaker 8: You know, you go back to Jordan, Lewis and Gilmore.

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Speaker 8: All we've ever won was three really good corners on

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Speaker 8: keep on dugging and dodging. Now, well, you know, Trey

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Speaker 8: But then Bland goes down, so you know, hopefully you know,

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Speaker 8: Hey man, that's much better than than whoever I can call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ready, Stewart will ready to will probably step in

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Speaker 8: If it was Zion Children's I could have given you

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Speaker 8: Ready and he's you know, we we have a decent

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Speaker 3: We will, yeah that this giant bunch in watching. I

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Speaker 3: A thing that Reddy can do is he is a

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Speaker 8: Brandon the Cowboy is going to run a lot of

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Speaker 9: Well, Alice, you know you're playing the Giants, and we

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Speaker 9: Practice yesterday with the back and it doesn't sound like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the point being that this is not a

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Speaker 6: He actually took advantage of those situations and actually got

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Speaker 2: Are there free agents out there?

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Speaker 6: And I know we all agree that that the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: I think he can help you.

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Speaker 8: Brian social media says that we should be calling Gilmore.

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Speaker 3: that's interesting is Sante Samuel Junior. But that's not until October.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're he's gonna you know, and I don't

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Speaker 3: they're they're confident that they can probably do stuff in house.

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Speaker 3: But Santi Samuel Jr. Would Be the one that I

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Speaker 6: Well, give me give me your assessment of that, Brian,

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Speaker 6: Saw as a deficit that Jadavian Clowney could possibly fill

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Speaker 3: Help me here, Vach with this one though, is this

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Speaker 8: Normally they'll wait around till Clowney signs to the Cardinals

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Speaker 8: You know, if you can bring Clowney in right now

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Speaker 8: better pass rusher right now than Sam Waives or something

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Speaker 8: like that. So if you can find the help, go

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Speaker 8: there different than like quarterback? You got one quarterback that

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Speaker 8: of it and Brian to your point. Maybe they're looking

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Speaker 8: at at Fouler, and you know, I always ask how

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Speaker 6: In camp, Yeah, I think, honestly, that's the way I

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Speaker 2: Go and make a deal with him.

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Speaker 6: You probably find out a little bit about what his

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Speaker 6: This is a rookie, so let's see how he develops

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Speaker 3: Aja. I mean, how about just having this conversation. You

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Speaker 3: would have never believed we'd be thinking about making moves

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Speaker 3: for defensive tackles. Now here we're talking about edges. Never

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm here thinking processing all this.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, well, waiting it out and seeing has

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Speaker 9: it's a little too late. So I'm okay with them

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Speaker 9: bringing in. And that doesn't mean I truly don't believe

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Speaker 7: It's just one of those things.

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Speaker 9: Just like you said, you still need development, you still

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Speaker 9: well who we got? So I'm okay with that. Let's see,

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Speaker 9: let's see what comes from it. What was the clowney?

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Speaker 9: He was at here hanging out all day long yesterday, basically.

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Speaker 3: Chat, lunch with a master, eat food, drinking.

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Speaker 7: He watched practice.

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Speaker 9: He was watching practice, So it wasn't one of those

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Speaker 9: never know what's gonna happen. We could find some news

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Speaker 3: And just I just since you and Vox tend to

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Speaker 3: interested in let the ride the course. Who you taking

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Speaker 8: We'll see, my colleagues, we'll see thinking about this when

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Speaker 8: the cowboys first made roster cuts.

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Speaker 7: But you will smile looking at her.

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Speaker 11: Smile, don't used it is when when I can draw

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Speaker 11: you off. Look watch this because when the cowboys, when

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Speaker 11: They did carry you lose Mica ninety five, So maybe

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Speaker 11: it was there playing to carry six all together. So hey,

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Speaker 11: being like Peyton Turner or something like that, sure, well

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Speaker 11: my backup playing is Jadevian Clowney who got nine sacks

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Speaker 3: This could be for Turner then, right, instead of somebody

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Speaker 10: Possibly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The other part to that too is and this is

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Speaker 6: least I don't know, is what are his financial.

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Speaker 2: If he's coming in and he's asking for a lot

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Speaker 6: Again, I don't know that I'm ready to make that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I think that's less than ten

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that if the money's not right, then

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Speaker 2: If the money's right, then maybe I consider it.

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Speaker 3: Got money? What are you doing over there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I still don't get reckless with my money.

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Speaker 6: All right, Brian, give me a rundown on this New

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Speaker 6: York Giant defense thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Where were going to start with this scene? You want

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Speaker 3: to start with those edge rushers. You want to start

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Speaker 3: with defensive tackle.

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Speaker 8: I think the as rushes are fantastic and they may take,

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Speaker 8: you know, the most of our time because it's three

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Speaker 8: of them, right, And the Washington Football Wizard did a

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Speaker 8: pretty decent job dealing with Dexter. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 8: we should copy some of what they did. Bro, let's

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Speaker 8: leave it on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I tell you what he is. Dexter is

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Speaker 3: one of those guys that's going to get double teamed.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a year in, year out that he's

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Speaker 3: the one of the highest double team guys in the league.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you're going to have to deal with him

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Speaker 3: that way. He does something that's really kind of unusual.

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Speaker 3: In Vatch and I talked about this as being a

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Speaker 3: couple of former offensive linemen is and how to deal

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Speaker 3: with these guys that play a certain technique and when

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Speaker 3: you watch Dexter Lawrence play. He crowds you. He gives

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Speaker 3: you no opportunity to get any type of separation. So

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Speaker 3: when you try and get your hands on him, he's

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Speaker 3: already on top of you. See, you can't extend, you

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Speaker 3: can't get any momentum. You can't push him like you

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Speaker 3: need to push him, because he's he's going to take

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Speaker 3: all the ball. He's going to get right up on you.

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Speaker 3: He's going to breathe the same air that you're breathing.

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Speaker 3: That's how that's how close he plays. He plays with

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Speaker 3: a really wide stance, very square, very square, and it

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Speaker 3: and it, and it hurts you when you try and

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Speaker 3: get him. You get stalemated by him. And he's a

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Speaker 3: big guy. He's a powerful guy. You know. That makes

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Speaker 3: it very difficult. See, he forces you to have to

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Speaker 3: double team him. And when you and that, when if

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Speaker 3: that happens, Now you've got some linebackers that that uh

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Speaker 3: that run to the football. Well, the Giants lost Michael

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Speaker 3: McFadden yesterday or the other day in the game against

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Speaker 3: the Commanders. That really hurt him because here you are

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Speaker 3: with with you know, when you when you talk about

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Speaker 3: what Lawrence does, the linebackers go along with it. So, uh,

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Speaker 3: this is one of those difficult tasks. Bbe is probably

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Speaker 3: going to see a lot of Dexter Lawrence right on

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Speaker 3: his nose in this football game. And if the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are and they had some success last week handling those

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Speaker 3: inside guys, uh, for the Eagles, this is another another

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Speaker 3: big task for them.

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Speaker 8: Box you know, Brian, Sometimes what teams would do to

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Speaker 8: deal with Dexter is they'll just let one guy kind

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Speaker 8: of lose the fight and the next lineman get to

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Speaker 8: the linebacker quickly so that they could try to make

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Speaker 8: a move there. And that really doesn't work because Dexter's

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Speaker 8: quicker than what you think he is, right, but him

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Speaker 8: being so powerful, so square, so heavy, it is hard

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Speaker 8: to kind of move him off his square. So we're

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Speaker 8: Cowboy fans, right, so we understand biattish and his limitations.

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Speaker 8: I was kind of mad a little bit, Broan. I

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Speaker 8: was kind of jealous because they found a way to

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Speaker 8: turn him a little bit and Dexter doesn't get turned

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Speaker 8: at all. So now in my mind you have bbing,

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Speaker 8: which I think BB's much more powerful than what Tyler

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Speaker 8: Tyler Biadak was. Now, what you have to do as

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Speaker 8: the cowboys. If you're if you're watching that film, Brandon

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Speaker 8: Coleman was another guy that'll be in there helping that

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Speaker 8: at a guard, use big Tyler and use book and

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Speaker 8: turn dexter Lawrence. So now what's not happening is him

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Speaker 8: getting upfields. So now you can't get pullers around him.

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Speaker 8: And the cowboys pulled a bunch, whether it be traps,

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Speaker 8: they did some midline stuff, counters. You don't want guards

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Speaker 8: getting caught up in that funk. What the what the

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Speaker 8: cowboys were really good at and shuts out to shot

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Speaker 8: him man because some of the old coaches didn't do this.

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Speaker 8: But if you have a deficiency, the cowboys went right

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Speaker 8: at it. Shoddy went right at it. Cool, Carter's going,

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Speaker 8: I'm going right at b gap. And what you saw

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Speaker 8: is you saw movement on the interior and you saw

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Speaker 8: pullers freely down the line Brian brought. So if you

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Speaker 8: can get dexter Lawrence moved, I think this would be

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Speaker 8: a fantastic data. Run right at him. And some cowboy

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Speaker 8: fans will be nervous about running right at Lawrence, but

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Speaker 8: you've seen brock Hoffman be our guy.

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Speaker 10: Or like we.

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Speaker 8: Said, Tyler Bias and the Cowboys have run the ball

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Speaker 8: recently decently versus versus Lawrence. I think you're much better

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Speaker 8: built in the middle from from your guards and your center,

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Speaker 8: and you're running back. Really, Javante can really pound on

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Speaker 8: guys to uh so, just not again, but but yeah,

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Speaker 8: Javonte is a very physical running back. Everyone Javante well done.

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Speaker 8: Will you is a powerful running back and it'll wear

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Speaker 8: down the defense if you keep running right at him.

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Speaker 10: Brian brought us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, when we start to talk about then the edges

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Speaker 3: here and and you know there's three of them, you

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Speaker 3: and I kind of agree on if you're going to

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Speaker 3: run the football, you want to run it at these edges, right.

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Speaker 3: You want to wear it down because what we're thinking about,

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Speaker 3: guys is here, if this turns into a game where

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're throwing every every snap or

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Speaker 3: having to throw every snap, these edges are very, very capable.

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Speaker 3: I personally feel like that Abdul Carter, who they drafted

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Speaker 3: very early last year, you know, from Penn State. He

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Speaker 3: is a guy at three pressures in the game against

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Speaker 3: the Commanders. They're playing him just kind of like on

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Speaker 3: third down. But what they're doing with some of these

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Speaker 3: these rushers is whether it's Thibodeaux, whether it's Burns, whether

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Speaker 3: it's Carter, they're standing them up behind the line of

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Speaker 3: scab waige. We've seen this before with if you remember

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Speaker 3: with what dan Quinn did with Mike Zimber did, when

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Speaker 3: you take one of your best pass rushers and you

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Speaker 3: put them like almost like an off ball linebacker and

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Speaker 3: then just kind to find spots where to attack, and

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Speaker 3: that's what they were able to do with Abdua Carter.

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Speaker 3: They were able to move him around and say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're going to rush from this side, We're going to

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Speaker 3: attack this this edge, or we're going to attack the center,

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Speaker 3: We're going to attack this card. So you have to

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Speaker 3: be where that Thibodeau is. I feel like Thibodau and

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Speaker 3: watch Thibodau has gotten better. I think there were times

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Speaker 3: where his effort wasn't always great and he was a

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Speaker 3: rush down the middle guy and he got very, very

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Speaker 3: frustrated with that, and now he seems like to me,

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Speaker 3: he's got a little bit better feel for how he

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Speaker 3: needs to get after these tackles.

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Speaker 8: Marian, why don't you think the Giants take Burns off

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Speaker 8: the ball because he's a little slimmer.

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Speaker 3: They do, they do. It's funny they do all three

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Speaker 3: of them do that. And what happens is they'll put

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Speaker 3: Burns to one side and then they'll put Carter on

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Speaker 3: the same side. Yeah, so they're trying they're trying to

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Speaker 3: put actually Carter playing as a three technique or like

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Speaker 3: a nickel tackle defensive tackle. So now they're they're they're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you want to slide this thing to Thibadeau, or

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Speaker 3: you want to slide it to Burns, where you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to also deal with Carter being on that side too.

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Speaker 8: Think about Burns Bran and I was I was shocked

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Speaker 8: at how much they had his hand down and he

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Speaker 8: was right over Tunnel and turn and tuns of would

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Speaker 8: wrestle with them all day. So when they ran the ball,

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Speaker 8: they ran right at Burns. So in my mind, if

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Speaker 8: you're the Cowboys, you want to do that exact same thing.

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Speaker 8: And you know, like I said, Burn's like what two

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Speaker 8: thirty or something like that, Tunzel got him up out

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Speaker 8: of there. So Tyler Gaden, who's three twenty or so,

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Speaker 8: Tyler's not the biggest in the world, but he's heavy, right,

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Speaker 8: So if Guiden leans on Burns a little bit, then

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Speaker 8: maybe that'll take a little bit of energy out pass

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Speaker 8: rushing later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw in the in the game against Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: some really good and you mentioned the pullers and the

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Speaker 3: midline stuff that they were able to do. The combination

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Speaker 3: blocks between span Ford and Guidon were able to move

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Speaker 3: some guys haul the defensive the edge for the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: they knocked him out of there and then they got

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Speaker 3: the they got Smith inside pulling. So I would anticipate

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Speaker 3: the same thing, Derek Amber. I would anticipate that that

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Speaker 3: you're going you see the ball run at those edges. Uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe we'll see a little bit off that. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens inside if you get the doubles. But I

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Speaker 3: think these edges I would make them have to fight

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Speaker 3: blocks all day at running the football.

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Speaker 6: When you talk about them from a past rush standpoint,

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Speaker 6: I think I think we all look at them on paper.

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Speaker 6: It's a scary number of edges and they all you think,

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Speaker 6: have a lot of talent. Did they show that in

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Speaker 6: Game one that that they were really a force and

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Speaker 6: a menace when it comes to getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Carter's really good. Carter's really good. And you know, we

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Speaker 8: we we we have to think about who the Washington's

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Speaker 8: line is right now. The Washington offensive line is much

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Speaker 8: better than the Giants offensive line right right. So that's

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Speaker 8: like Tunsul and like some other dudes that we like

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Speaker 8: for a brand and Brandon Coleman and those guys. So, uh,

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Speaker 8: Carter got four pressures I believe three three other pressure

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Speaker 8: but you could you can see it.

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Speaker 10: He flies off the football.

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Speaker 8: Burns is a is a veteran, but he was going

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Speaker 8: against tons of but Burns was you know, he was

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Speaker 8: you know, he was able to get sacks.

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Speaker 10: Another Birds, Birds.

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Speaker 3: Is a guy that breaks you down. I think he's

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Speaker 3: a little bit better. Thibodeau is like get to your

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Speaker 3: edge and try and win that way, maybe win with

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Speaker 3: a little bit more power. Burns is a run up

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Speaker 3: the field and slap your hands and move your hands

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Speaker 3: and then get you kind of turned and then he's

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Speaker 3: he's attack. And that's the way that he was able

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Speaker 3: to get to get to Daniels one time. Is he

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Speaker 3: just broke the tackle down and finished right on the

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Speaker 3: spot where he needed to.

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Speaker 8: Brian, would you say that Guiden and Steele would need

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Speaker 8: more technique this game, or do you think that this

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Speaker 8: is a game where they have to rely on their

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Speaker 8: actual physical ability.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have to. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: really important because if you get a guy that does

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Speaker 3: Patient will tell you about Bookers. Some of the things

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Speaker 6: Let's get to this. I'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 6: about this. Giants defense, particularly in the secondary. What does

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Speaker 6: the past the defense look like for them?

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like there's a couple of different

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Speaker 3: avenues here that you can attack. And I was visiting

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Speaker 3: with some of my guys at the Giants about this

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Speaker 3: because I was thinking about Deontay Banks, who played, who

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Speaker 3: was a first round pick in the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: him play a lot, and I was asking my guys there,

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Speaker 3: I said, Hey, what's the deal with Banks? Is he hurt?

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Speaker 3: Is he nicked up? What's it doing?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 3: They had an open competition and then Cordell flot number

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Speaker 3: twenty eight beat him out. So and me, personally, I

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Speaker 3: think that's kind of a win for the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: right there. I think Banks is one of these guys.

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Speaker 3: I think he can play some sticky coverage. I think

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Speaker 3: he can. He's a little bit of a gambler in

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Speaker 3: the way he plays, but I felt like that man

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Speaker 3: for man coverage wise, he was he was He was solid,

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Speaker 3: you know. I Mean, it wasn't probably what they thought

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Speaker 3: of as a first round pick, but watching him play,

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Speaker 3: the quickness and how he competes and all that I've

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Speaker 3: seen Flop play a bunch I have, and this is

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Speaker 3: going to be the guy I think you go after

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Speaker 3: in this football game.

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Speaker 2: Waldo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the numbers, where's number twenty eight? And there's separation

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Speaker 3: in his game. You could see they were they were

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Speaker 3: having he was having promise. We talked about inbreaking routes,

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Speaker 3: the d cut routes, things like that. He is just

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Speaker 3: not good enough at trailing and make those plays. Things

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Speaker 3: on the outside. If you throw right at him, you

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Speaker 3: know it tends to come forward and have that, but

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Speaker 3: if you he has to carry anything inside, it is

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Speaker 3: a real problem for him. I'm surprised that he that

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Speaker 3: he won that job, but that my giants guys are saying, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was an open competition and here we are. I

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Speaker 3: think on the other side, Paulson to Deebo, I think

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Speaker 3: that when you when you look at him, he's a

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Speaker 3: guy that's gonna And last week in the game, he

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Speaker 3: traveled with Terry McLaurin, and I wonder if in fact

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Speaker 3: that they're going how much how much of that like

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Speaker 3: that man coverage, how much traveling are they gonna want

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Speaker 3: to do? Are they going to want to travel him

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Speaker 3: with CD? Are they going to travel maybe with Pickens

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Speaker 3: a little bit, or are they going to find a

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Speaker 3: way to play some zone. I amazed my man Voch

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Speaker 3: Lombardi this morning telling him that when when h when

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Speaker 3: uh ceedee lamp plays against off coverage, he's not as

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Speaker 3: good a receiver. The numbers, the metrics, all that stuff

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Speaker 3: just is is completely different for him when he faces

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Speaker 3: man covered your face is a guy traveling with him,

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Speaker 3: he tends to have better numbers as a receiver. The

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Speaker 3: off coverage stuff, it we're on the opposite of that.

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Speaker 3: Pickens is much better when you give him when he

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Speaker 3: plays off he's averaging almost nine yards of reception when

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Speaker 3: it you know, when it when he plays off coverage

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Speaker 3: against him. So it's kind of funny. The Giants got

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Speaker 3: to kind of figure out how they want to handle

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Speaker 3: both these guys. But they they like to rotate their

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Speaker 3: corners and uh and and try and get everybody an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you'll see a lot of different coverages

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Speaker 3: from them.

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Speaker 8: Marian, who would you say is better Cordero flat or

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Speaker 8: our guy from last week?

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Speaker 3: Jackson? Oh, George Jackson, I would I would say, man, oh,

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Speaker 3: and you know my guy flots from lsue, so I can. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't worry about that. It matters it matters them.

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Speaker 3: I think that me personally, I think that you attack

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Speaker 3: this guy. I think I think Flatt is. I think

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Speaker 3: he's I think he's a little bit more. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's as quick as Jackson is. But but playing

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Speaker 3: off Jackson didn't look like he was really driving on

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Speaker 3: the ball. There were a couple of times I guess

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Speaker 3: he made plays and stuff like that. He drove on

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Speaker 3: one on an inside cut that was a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: But Flats capable. I just think you see more separation

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Speaker 3: than him playing then you do the other guy.

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Speaker 8: I think flat is a much worse corner. I've seen

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Speaker 8: every cowboy take turns beating up on flat, and the

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Speaker 8: cowboys know how to attack flat. So if Paulson is

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Speaker 8: going to be a guy that's gonna run around, let's

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Speaker 8: say he travels with pickings or something like that, then.

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Speaker 10: Cool, you got flat versus seedy.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you.

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Speaker 8: I think I Pauls of the Debo shouldn't travel this week.

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Speaker 8: If I had to imagine, the Giants maybe had confidence

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Speaker 8: that Terry was the only receiver that can give you

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Speaker 8: wide receiver type problems. Debo is a is a running

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Speaker 8: back playing receiver, so maybe you feel better with your

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Speaker 8: you know, second guy's kind of dealing with him. The

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Speaker 8: Cowboys are a totally different type of deal. You know,

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Speaker 8: you got two outside guys and then you have the

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Speaker 8: interior mess going on there. I don't think that they're

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Speaker 8: going to travel to Debo. I think they're going to

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Speaker 8: keep on on one side and they're gonna have to

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Speaker 8: maybe shade coverage to the opposite side that Paulson is

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Speaker 8: is not on. Drew Phillips were Phillips. We were a big, big,

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Speaker 8: big fan of him in draft land. You know, nickel guy.

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Speaker 8: He seems to be like their second best corner. But

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Speaker 8: I didn't really see him involved all that much.

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Speaker 3: Brian.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're talking about the rotation, you know, so

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Speaker 8: maybe he just wasn't on the field of Buck when

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Speaker 8: he was there.

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Speaker 3: I did say he's gonna play the slot, and you

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Speaker 3: got to worry about him as a blitzer. I mean

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of times where if they if you

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Speaker 3: play condensed formation and there's gonna be a slot blitz,

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Speaker 3: you know. Uh. I think that Shane Bowen the the

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator for the Giants has to kind of

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Speaker 3: figure out. I don't think he can let Dak Prescott

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Speaker 3: sit in the pocket and make throws. He's got to

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Speaker 3: be worried. He has to feel like that this pass

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Speaker 3: rush can get home. Even though against the the Eagles

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Speaker 3: that you know they the offensive line did a nice

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Speaker 3: shot and Dak showing the mobility that he's able to do.

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Speaker 3: So the how how he handles this, how he handles

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Speaker 3: the coverage aspect, I think Phillips could be a guy

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna see blitzers and this from the secondary,

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Speaker 3: I think Phillips from the slot would be that guy talking.

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Speaker 2: To me about ahead.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, just so one more thing that I was shocked about.

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Speaker 8: Brent is on paper Tyler Neuven and they're in Holland, right,

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Speaker 8: Like they're both good corners, but just kind of work

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Speaker 8: safety safety say, I mean, they're they're both good safeties,

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Speaker 8: but Washington film, if you got bad corners, it kind

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Speaker 8: of makes your safety is bad also, right, So you know,

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00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 8: Nuban was the guy that I thought would be a

874
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 8: really good rundown guy, Like he'll come up and tackle

875
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 8: because that's what he did in college. Brand we were

876
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 8: watching them, but you know, Nuban was kind of a

877
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 8: non just a non factor right there. And I was

878
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 8: let down a little bit by that bron So, I mean,

879
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 8: if you're going to be throwing the ball like at him,

880
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 8: like I think he's a guy that you can also.

881
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Be there, We'll see. We'll see with the situation too

882
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: with him and Holland. Looked like they had some communication

883
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: problems in that game against the Commanders, So maybe the

884
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: Cowboys can take it. Maybe these guys probably just you know,

885
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: and and not being on the same page for some

886
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: of the stuff. There were some balls that were caught and

887
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: those guys kind of looked at each You're like, was

888
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: that your guy was at my guy? So maybe they're

889
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: still trying to work through some things.

890
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: There's Flight's a guy you mentioned the safety.

891
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 6: How do the safeties in the linebackers match up with

892
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: this tight end room, because I do think the tight

893
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 6: ends are a place where that becomes a bit of

894
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 6: a matchup for the For the Cowboys, they want to

895
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 6: be able to use those tight ends. They certainly want

896
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 6: to be able to use them up the scene of

897
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 6: the field. How does that match up from the standpoint

898
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: of what what the Giants can do with their linebackers

899
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 6: and safeties.

900
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 8: Mikel McFadden is out, so their guy Darius Mussau is there.

901
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 8: I'm trying to go find Mussau. Yeah, struggle him and

902
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 8: him just running around trying to find somebody in open space.

903
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 8: It's a It's terrible for them. So if it's me

904
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 8: this Jake Ferguson, like, go go find him turping. And

905
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 8: that's the thing about Turping is you can move him

906
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 8: all over place, put him in the.

907
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: Backfield and if they him have to cover and if

908
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: you if.

909
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 8: You happen to catch him in may and then that's

910
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: a touchdown for Dallas for sure.

911
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: So talk about I think watch from the standpoint of

912
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. Where do you see a matchup? Give me

913
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 6: a matchup of this Cowboys skill player versus this player.

914
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 6: This is where I'm gonna exploit. This is gonna this

915
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: is going to be my target for this game.

916
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 8: This was gonna be so fun there We're gonna run

917
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 8: out there and find wherever the hell flight is. Or

918
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 8: if Deontay Banks as well, you know, you know, just

919
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 8: case somebody's listening, well, what if Flat got whipped so

920
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 8: bad that they benched them and put Banks out. There's

921
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 8: history of the Cowboys beating out of the Banks too,

922
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 8: So you're finding and honestly pausing the debo isn't so

923
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 8: great that you're going away from them or even Drew Phillips, Right, Philip,

924
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 8: you you really can do whatever you want to do here.

925
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 8: But the key matchup, Derek, if you just asked for

926
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 8: like a one on one find tight end versus Darius

927
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 8: Moosaut or just finding whatever wide receiver is a line

928
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 8: up against flat or uh Banks.

929
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: And protect the front. If he protects that's then now

930
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: you can you can do some good against.

931
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 8: The Tyler Guiden versus Brian Burns will be a fantastic match.

932
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 8: Have to watch if you can win. Now when I

933
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 8: think you're gonna have a fantastic day, throw on the football.

934
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: How much you guys trusted you saw last week?

935
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 6: Because again I think the offensive line played really well

936
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 6: last week in protecting that. There was some times he

937
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 6: had some pressure, but by and large I thought they

938
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 6: protect them pretty well. How much do you trust that

939
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: now going into this week where you may be facing

940
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: better edges than you faced last week.

941
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, do you feel like

942
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: that the Giants pass rush is better than what you

943
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: saw in Philadelphia.

944
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 8: Listen, man, I've seen four deal with Cam, Cam, Irvin,

945
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 8: Fleming Ty and Siki like he knows how to deal

946
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 8: with I told him, man, they don't work it no more.

947
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 8: I've seen Dak navigate left tackle nonsense for a long time.

948
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 8: I think he'll be fine. What you don't want is

949
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 8: dex Loren's whooping whoever in the middle of and And

950
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 8: that's the strength of getting space, that's the.

951
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: Strength of your of your of your line right there.

952
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: We felt like going into the Philadelphia game that that

953
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: was going to be a strength, even you know, even

954
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: with guys getting knocked out of the game. But I

955
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: feel like that they match up pretty well against the

956
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: Giants inside.

957
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 8: To plus also to you know, uh, you know, pass

958
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 8: rush in the first quarter is much different than having

959
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 8: to deal with the run game and then pass rushing

960
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 8: us in the third quarter. You know, So if the

961
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 8: Cowboys play a very balanced attack, I don't even think

962
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 8: the pass rush sh should be that that terrible.

963
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you mentioned a little bit earlier, mentioned the running backs.

964
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 6: How would you guys divvy up running back this week?

965
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 6: Knowing that that again you had to fumble from Sanders

966
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 6: last week. Blue was inactive last week. How would you

967
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 6: kind of manage that running back position? How would you

968
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: go into this game thinking you're going to use utilize

969
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 6: the different talents that you have at running back.

970
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 10: Miles Sanders had four carries. Brian brought us.

971
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 8: It's tough to say take four carries away from the man.

972
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: Given one carriage, didn't get forty nine yards.

973
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: Did get forty nine yards.

974
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 10: He got caught. But you know, if it's me, I

975
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 10: mean Brian, like.

976
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: You're going to need both. I think they're gonna need both.

977
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to this game trying to run the football

978
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: and wear these guys down.

979
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 8: Should you should you pass less to get Williams more carries?

980
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 8: Because Williams got fifteen carries? Right, would you want that

981
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 8: number to be?

982
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Like I proved the Giants have got to prove to

983
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: me that they could stop the run, especially on the

984
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: edge if you run right at him. And I'm not saying, hey,

985
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 3: it's make a living at a running inside against Lawrence.

986
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying run at these edges and kind of if

987
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: they're gonna jump around and try and not play square

988
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: and and take people on I'm gonna see if, if,

989
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: if span Ford and those tackles and these guys could

990
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: get some push, I'm gonna see Booker and these guys.

991
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: I'm I'm You're gonna need Sanders in this game because

992
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be hand the ball to Williams.

993
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: Get some positivity out of that. Hand the ball to

994
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Sanders wheld needs be. Sanders might actually double his carries

995
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: in this football game.

996
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 7: What are you still not expecting to see?

997
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 10: Blup?

998
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Bran. Let me just ask you

999
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: this right now.

1000
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 8: I'm not brand What if number nine lines up at

1001
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 8: running back and he's like your birsty fans running back.

1002
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: That's where I think they're gonna gonna go with their Yeah,

1003
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: I think that's to me. Handing him the ball is

1004
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 3: kind of like a It's like a six seven yard

1005
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: game every time. So yeah, I think I'm doing more

1006
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: of that.

1007
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 10: That is a gadget sideway.

1008
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw that. We've seen that training camp. Just

1009
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: he lines up as a back, they hand it to

1010
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: him and he makes a cut that's explosively the whole.

1011
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 6: My hope is that they continue to integrate him even

1012
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: more into the offense. We saw it last week. We

1013
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 6: saw it all through our training camp. I want to

1014
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: see more. I want to see him getting more opportunities

1015
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the ball to make place

1016
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 6: because I do think he is a player that creates

1017
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 6: a ton of matchup problems for the opponent.

1018
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: Figure it out eventually, I will think, will this guy

1019
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: he's a rookie.

1020
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 10: As long as he's rated by like week nine, that

1021
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 10: we won't even be worried about.

1022
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 6: This absolutely, all right, that's a rap. We appreciate you, guys, Jones.

1023
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Speaker 6: We'll be back on tomorrow. We'll wrap this thing up.

1024
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Speaker 6: Let you know, we think it's going to happen this

1025
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Speaker 6: week Cowboys versus Giants Sunday afternoon game. Until then, Vacher Lombardi,

1026
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