WEBVTT - TechStuff Takes a Ride in a Personal Submarine 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:13.360 With technology with tech Stuff from storks dot com. Hey there, everybody, 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.560 and welcome to Tech Stuff. I am your host, Jonathan Strickland. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.880 I'm an executive producer here at how Stuff Works. And 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.239 joining me today is Mr Scott. Benjamin Scott, welcome back 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.280 to the show. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.160 to be here. And Scott, I always like to ask 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.720 you in so that whenever I'm doing a show that 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.280 has to do with like vehicles, because of course everyone 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:36.960 knows you as like the the incredibly insightful wise expert 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.000 in all things vehicular, or at least you've got enough 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.000 of a basis to get the rest of us all 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.040 buzzing because our heads are just totally stuffed with nonsense. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.080 You know what, you do it better than anyone else 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.559 I know. So I'm I had to have you on 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.560 the show. Thank you. I promise I am not going 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.440 to break your heart in this episode. I know it's 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.080 a change. I was just talking about that with Ramseyr, producer. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.560 That's I'm waiting for that gotcha moment. Yeah, I'm not 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.520 doing that this time. I People who have been listening 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.040 to Tech Stuff you know that in past episodes I 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.360 have found ways to have little moments where I I 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.360 can actually sit across the table and watch Scott's heartbreak 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.200 right in front of my eyes. It's all in good fun. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.920 And you know what I was, I was waiting for it, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.600 but I figured, you know, like, well, what's he really 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.160 going to break my heart about? With this topic. I mean, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.720 I'm kind of I would say, I'm I'm not indifferent 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.920 to this, but um, I really don't have a whole 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.680 lot of personal experience with with this type of vehicle. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.120 I'd say that this, this, this whole world is a 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.959 little outside of our tax bracket. Yeah, I would say 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.960 far outside of our text. We're talking about personal submarines 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.880 today now before we jump into the world of personal submarines, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.080 which is pretty fascinating and also head scratching. I mean, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.279 we're gonna be talking about not just stuff that you could, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.160 in theory go out and buy if you had let's 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.360 call it a metric crap ton of money, but also 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.320 some stuff that, as far as we can tell, has 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.840 yet to actually exist in any real form. Right. I 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.200 actually mentioned on Twitter earlier today. The day we're recording 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.400 this is on on January nine, two thousand and eighteen, 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.119 and I had mentioned that one of the things that's 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.240 perplexing and frustrating covering this kind of technology is that 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.680 when you start covering tech at a certain luxury level, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.200 you frequently will encounter examples where you see lots of 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.000 concept art, but you don't see any evidence of anyone 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.360 actually making anything. Yeah, and we've got a good example 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.240 of that that we're gonna share with you today. Yeah. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.359 So before we go into that, I wanted to give 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.880 you guys a bit of the history of the development 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.160 of the submarine, because it's a fascinating one and it's 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.000 centuries old, and I mostly wanted to do this so 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.520 that Scott, you and I can have a little discussions 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.680 about this too. I can tell you some facts. If 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.360 you have any questions or anything that I happen to 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.520 know the answer to, we can chat about that. But 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:59.160 just also just hearing about the ingenuity and in some cases, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.760 uh uh, insanity of the people who decided to go 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.480 and try and make stuff that would go under water 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.880 and let them live their definite insanity. I don't know 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.040 a whole lot about the history of submarines, I'll have 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.000 to admit. Yeah, so you're gonna be teaching me some 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.040 new things, and I'm sure I'll have some questions along 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.080 the way. Sure, So where would you like to start, Well, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.320 we're gonna start in the sixteenth century. Yeah, this would 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.600 be around the time that Shakespeare is writing stuff. Actually 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.080 this is technically before, because we're gonna go all the 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.200 way back to fifteen seventy eight when William Bourne, who 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.880 was an English innkeeper in a little bit of an 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.800 eccentric dreamer, decided to put some of his ideas together 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.400 in book format. He published a book titled Inventions and 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.280 Devices and include all sorts of ideas, including a boat 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.880 that he imagined that would be able to go under 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.440 the water, thus a submarine. Now he knew, as did 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.160 plenty of people before him, that solid matter will displace 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.520 a volume of water equal to that solid objects weight, 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.280 right you, it's something in a body of water. It's 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.160 going to displace the water by a volume that's equal 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.680 to the weight of the object. Everyone had known that 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.880 for millennia, but born maybe millennia is exaggerating, but for 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:16.000 hundreds of years. Borne went further. He said, boats float 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.919 because of that property, and if the boat were to 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.960 take on water, it would technically be displacing less water 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.919 than what it weighed, because it's actually bringing water into 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.039 the form of the boat itself, and that's what would 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.040 cause a boat to sink. So boats sink because they 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.640 end up displacing less water than what they weigh and 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.520 then because of that ratio, they plummet to the bottom 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.920 of the ocean or rivers or lakes. Is that you're 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.720 in the boat. Yeah, that turns out that of sailors 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.080 hate it when this happens. They're not big fans of it. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.800 But he said, if you could control this in some 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.760 way and keep the water separate from you know, the 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.720 people in the boat, then you could possibly go under 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.520 the water, and that there could be all sorts of 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.640 potential applications for that, particularly as would turn out to 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.240 be the case, military applications. And so he came up 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.520 with this idea, uh that he didn't he never built 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.400 as far as we know, but he came up with 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.880 an idea that he proposed could work, which involved having 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.680 a a boat made out of wood that is completely covered. Right, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.920 you then cover the wood with special treated leather to 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.240 waterproof the boat so it's water tights and water is 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.080 not gonna come in. Fantastic technology at the time. Yes, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.000 And the leather itself would be attached to the boat 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.839 with a device where you could loosen the leather or 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.719 tighten it against the boat and thus allow water to 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.360 seep in between the leather and the exterior of the boat. Yeah, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.719 so you can start to displace less water. You're taking 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:51.680 water on almost this ballast, liked, Yes, exactly, And then 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.600 that would allow you to sink under the water and 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.000 then you would be able to tighten it again to 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.960 expel water and regain buoyancy come back up. Uh. He 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.800 said that this he thought would probably work pretty well. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.240 He even thought about air because he said, well, you know, uh, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.360 that's gonna be an issue. He said, what would the 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.039 boat would also have a mast in the center that 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.719 would extend up and go through the surface of the 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.720 water at the top, so you would have sort of 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.840 like a snorkele poking out all the time. You would 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.080 never submerge to the point where the mast itself would 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.080 go under the surface of the water. So it's hollow, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.800 and it's got a whole board in the middle. And 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:37.320 he actually wrote a very helpful sentence to explain his rationality. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.680 Said for the whole that goeth through. The mask must 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.239 give you air, as men cannot live without it. True 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.039 words were never spoken, so Borne was really smart, I 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.680 guess now. Sometime later there was a drawing that surface 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.320 that some would ascribe to his his actual description, but 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.359 they may have also just been drawn by someone else 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.240 with a similar idea. Uh, this one is one if 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.880 you ever see it. It looks like a boat that 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.640 has two segments on the side that are on screws, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.720 and if you turn the screws one way, it pulls 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.240 them inward to the boat, allowing water to come into 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.440 certain chambers that are sealed off from the rest of 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.800 the boat. And if you turn the screws the other way, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.960 it pushes the panels back to be flushed with the boat. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.840 But according to all the resources I was looking at, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.560 they said that that was a different enough design from 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.920 what Born had been describing in his book that it's 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.880 quite possible it was drawn by someone else, but dates 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.800 who around the same time. You know what's funny, if 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.240 if you had asked me this question, you know, without 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.240 telling me who it was that that created the first submarine, Yeah, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.680 I would have credited this to Leonardo da Vinci. Sure, 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.760 I think most people would think that that was the 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.920 mind that created something like this, because I mean, he 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:54.120 has so many other just incredible spectacular adventures that that 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.240 later were built and functional. Well, I mean he proposed 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.000 the air screw, which was essentially a predecessor to the hellic, right, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.920 So I mean submarine is not that far of a stress. No, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.800 I would I would have definitely thought this would appear 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.680 in somewhere in his sketch books. It's possible that there 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.600 are other inventors who came before born who proposed something similar. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.000 Borns is the earliest one that we have on records. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.840 In sixty five, you have Cornelius Drebble. By the way, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.080 the names I came across while researching this, I love 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.800 Cornelius Drebble is a great name. Not many people named 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.880 their kids Cornelius. But my wife does work with the 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.600 Cornelius right now. Though that's a great name. Strange. Cornelius 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.520 is a great name. Also, Uh, fantastic character in the 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.080 show Hello Dolly must be a family name, must be. Uh. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.120 This Cornelius was the court inventor for James the first 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:48.800 of England, which I did not know that was a position. Interesting, Yeah, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.240 I assume he invented stuff, not courts that would have 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.760 just been weird tennis courts, yeah, exactly, racketball courts. Yeah, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:02.880 it's just yeah, food courts. So he created what many 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.000 considered to be the first working submarine, and supposedly it 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.640 traveled down and under the Thames River at a depth 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.400 of fifteen feet or so when it got to its deepest. Yeah, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.920 especially when you consider how it did this. It was 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:21.640 propelled by twelve oarsmen. So the oars extended out the 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.800 side of this weatherproof boat that also had a leather 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.400 you know, like a weather a waterproofed leather covering. The 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:33.040 oars protruded through the covering obviously, and then metal clamps 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.240 were used to clamp the leather covering tight against the 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:42.040 oars to maintain that water tight seal. Yeah. They were 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.360 incredible for the time, you know, and they used a 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.000 design that's very similar to what a lot of personal 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.440 subs use, and that the thing that allowed the boat 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:57.120 to go under the water was it's it's a hydrodynamic design. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.640 So the deck of this boat, the upper deck slope 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.320 down toward the water's surface, so it's almost like a 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.640 ramp on the front. The forward momentum of the oarsmen 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.320 would cause the boat's uh bow to go under the 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.360 surface of the water. So the harder you row, the 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.200 further down you would go. So you row faster, it 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.920 dives deeper, and you have to keep that forward momentum 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.440 because as soon as you stop, the buoyancy pushes the 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.840 boat back up to the surface of the water, as 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.240 you would want with the submarine. Yes, so, I mean 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.160 you get your your oarsmen get tired, you might want 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.360 to get up to the air pretty soon. Yeah, I 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.679 would think so, and you know, your pass out or 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.160 whatever they do. Yeah, which would happen right. You breathe 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.679 in enough carbon dioxide, you pass out, the boat comes 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.280 up to the top, hopefully someone's cognizant enough to open 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.120 a hatch and you can breathe again. I've seen early 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.559 drawings of submarines and they're typically very, very cramp they're 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.320 not the monster ships that we think of now, very small, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.959 so it wouldn't take long to extinguish all the air 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.640 that you have available to I mean, if you just 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.840 look at World War two era submarines and that that's 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.079 late in the game for submarines, uh, you feel like, well, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.600 I'd be comfortable moving through this if I were about 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.040 five ft four, but then he tolder than that, and 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.200 I've got to be real cognizant of where my head is. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.079 And there's other people in there. Yeah, and I'm not 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.480 just the only person here. I need to know. Six 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.720 foot bill has really taken up a lot of space. So, uh, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.000 there are no illustrations or anything of this particular boat, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.880 but there were a lot of reports about it actually 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.199 working with people along the Thames were really impressed by it. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.000 James the First was impressed by it. There's some stories 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.720 that say that he even took a ride on it, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.240 but most people dismissed that because James the First was 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.800 uh known to be risk averse. Yeah, he was not 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.520 someone who would put his body in direct peril. Well, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.320 I was thinking that maybe there were some people that 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.120 advised him maybe not to try. Probably Ben Johnson, the 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.400 famous writer, actually referred to it as an invisible eel. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.400 That's what he called the boat. So that was kind 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.800 of a cool design. Moving on to sixteen thirty four, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.319 that's when a French priest named Marin Mersen worked out 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.320 that a submarine should probably may be made up of 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.280 some pretty strong stuff to withstand water pressure, which we're 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.880 gonna learn later was very important that some people did 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.800 not pick up on. That's a horrible, terrible spoiler. So 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.560 they're they're talking about going deeper than fifteen feet obviously, 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.920 And he said that, you know, if you wanted to 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.960 actually have a submarine that could go to sufficient depths, 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.240 you probably want to make it up of something like copper. Use, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.120 you know, a nice strong frame and coated with copper, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.760 counting not the strongest metal, no, but stronger than would. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.959 He also thought that both ends should taper to a point, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.160 and the reason for that was that you could then 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.720 reverse just as easily as you could go forward. And otherwise, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.800 if you have one end that comes to a point 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.640 and the other end doesn't, you have to make a 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.520 really wide turn to go back the way you came. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.440 Also makes it a little harder for the whale to 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.040 swallow you. Yes, anything that makes it, uh, you know, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.720 whales swallowing the whole thing more difficult. Definitely, Sailors are 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.920 in favor of that. On the outside, you know, don't 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.959 don't use the easy to swallow gel covering on your 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.160 copper submarine, and don't try and try not to look 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.640 like a fish and distressed while you're out. There also 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.560 also words to live by. Uh. There was a guy 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.600 named that we only know as Di san d E 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.199 s o N, a Frenchman in sixteen fifty four who 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.439 designed what he claimed would be a ni unstoppable warship 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.199 that was semi submerged, so not a full submersible the 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.600 way we consider submarines. It was essentially a floating battering 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.360 ram and it was designed to sink enemy ships. So 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.640 the battering ram itself was under the surface of the water. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.040 Only a little bit of the boat would protrude, so 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.320 that you know, enemy ships wouldn't necessarily notice you when 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.680 you're coming up on them. Very difficult to detect, especially 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.480 at night. Yes, his design was seventy two ft long. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.800 It is called the Rotterdam boat because he built it 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.480 in Rotterdam, and he claimed that the clockwork propulsion system 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.800 that he had installed in it would allow him to 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.160 go from Rotterdam to London and back within the span 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.120 of a day, which is remarkable in sixteen fifty four. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.520 Only problem is he miscalculated how much work it would 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.960 take to move a boat through the water, and it 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.600 didn't move him at all. The clockwork failed and so 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.480 the boat was never used. But we could have had 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.120 underwater battering rams as early as the mid seventeenth century 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.160 had it not been for that. Yeah, he did try. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:40.560 Another Frenchman named Denise pop In, a mathematician in six 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.320 said hey, what have we used an air pump in 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.160 order to change the buoyancy of a ship? He was 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.840 actually thinking along lines of let's not try and take 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.440 on water, let's change the air pressure inside the ship. Uh. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.840 There are no records of any of his designs, but 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.120 the story says that he built a working submarine and 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.880 was starting to build a second one and funding fell 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.560 through and he scrapped the project, which I think a 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.720 lot of people can identify with because that happens all 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.200 the time and all sorts of technologies. It never gets 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.160 past prototype a lot of times. Yeah, and a lot 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.120 of these prototypes end up being things where people say 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.880 that's a great idea, thank you for the idea, never 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.360 doing anything with it, or they they adapted to their 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.680 own needs and or or change it in some way 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.240 that and then take advantage of them unfortunately, be like, hey, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.080 that's a great idea, I'm changing two things about it. Now, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.760 it's my idea. It's right trademark. Yeah t M. You 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.040 didn't think about it, buddy, uh nine, and I'm skipping 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.280 over by the way. There are tons of examples of 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.280 different early submarines, many of which did not end well. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.360 In seventeen nine, there was a guy named Nathaniel Simmons 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 or Simon's s y M O. N. S. He was 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.520 a carpenter in England. He built a submarine that consisted 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:56.200 of two wooden sections front and the back, joined in 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.800 the middle by a panel of pleaded leather. So think 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.480 of like an accordion or a concertina, right, So it 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.880 can it can scrunch in and get make the whole 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.760 ship shorter, or it can extend and make the whole 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.080 ship longer. And this is how you would either sink 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.840 it or float it based upon the amount of displacement 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.400 that he was creating. Uh. It had no means of propulsion, however, 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.280 so we could go down into the water and it 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.000 could come back up from the bottom of the river 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.320 that he was using it. And what his plan was 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.800 was to make such a spectacle that people would be 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.720 overcome with amazement that a man could go down to 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.760 the bottom of a river and live there for more 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.160 than an hour and then come back up none the 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.920 worse for wear, and then they throw money at him. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.760 This is like a water elevator, Yeah, except it didn't 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.760 go anywhere. It was more like like think of like 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.240 a magician, a busker who's trying to or like just 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.160 someone just playing a song, just trying to hope for tips. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.480 They got their little guitar case out there, excep. In 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.840 this case, he's got an enormous boat. It sinks into 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.120 a river and occasionally comes back up again. Uh. People 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.320 did not leave a lot of tips in his tip jar. Yeah. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.520 They probably left when he submerged himself, thinking well that 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.560 guy's gone. Yeah, they see you later, loser. Uh. Turns 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.560 out it did not pay for itself, so it ended 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.320 up being just a curiosity. And of course, like I said, 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.920 there's no propulsion system and there was no practical application 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.640 for it. A strange bit of history, Yes, I thought 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.320 so too. I should make a note of that for 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.920 Ridiculous History. By the way, if you weren't subscribed to 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.000 Ridiculous History, you should totally subscribe to Ridiculous History. It's 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:35.840 a fun show. SEO. John Day, an English shipbuilder created 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.200 a fairly small water tight chamber that was weighed down 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.920 by stones, So again not really a submarine. It's something 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.359 that would allow you to sink to the bottom of 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.840 a body of water. Uh. The chamber had these stones 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.640 attached to it, like strung along the outside of it, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.600 and on the inside of the chamber were bolts that 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.639 if you pulled the bolt, it would release a stone. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.520 So that was how you could release stones and allow 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.760 yourself to pop back up to the surface. And the 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.560 whole point of this was very similar to what Simons 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.200 was trying to do. It was an idea of like, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.560 I can make money by convincing people. Hey, like I'm 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.320 gonna do this crazy stunt. Pay me. So he goes 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.200 out and he finds another guy named Christopher Blake. Christopher 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.679 Blake was a bit of a gambler, a risk taker, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.920 and he said to Blake, here's my idea. We build 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.359 a bigger one of these, and we make a claim 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.600 saying that I'm going to go down to the bottom 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.600 of Plymouth Harbor and I'm going to stay there for 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.160 twenty four hours, and after twenty four hours, I'm gonna 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.760 come back up and if I can do it. We 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.000 win the bet, and I just need you to back me. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.639 Because you have money, you can back my part of 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.280 the bet. And Blake says this is interesting. Well, we'll 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.920 see if anyone will take us up on the bet, 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.960 and if we win, you get ten percent of the winnings. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.880 And so Day says, let's do it. So they did. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.879 They got lots and lots of people to bet on it, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.000 so tons of money going into this. The day comes 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:04.640 and John Day gets into his larger watertight container using 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.560 the exact same premise. Now before he had been practicing 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.800 in a river, not in a harbor. You might see 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.840 where this is going. Rivers are not as deep as 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:17.840 harbors are. He had not tested this in uh water 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.800 that was as deep, which was a hundred feet deep, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.199 and as a wooden structure yep, turned out to be 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:30.480 too much ah, the structure collapsed. Day did not survive, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.840 He did not win his bet. Blake did not get 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.639 to collect lots of money from people, and people who 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:43.000 were perhaps a little more sensible, made a little money 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.879 that day in a very sad way, no kidding. So 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.119 he jumped into the harbor essentially with a bunch of 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.040 rocks tied to him, and that was it sunk to 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.199 the san too, about hundred feet. The pressure caused the 0:19:54.800 --> 0:20:00.199 structure to fail, and yeah, he drowned. Yeah. Not not 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.960 a good way to go. Um. Not a great element 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.280 of the submarine story, but one that I thought was 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:12.280 really interesting because a century earlier you had a French 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.320 priests say, you know, if you want to go deep, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.240 you should probably use something sturdier than would so people 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.480 have been talking about for a hundred years, but we didn't. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.960 You know, this guy wasn't really taking it to heart, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.840 and it turned out that that was his fatal undoing. Now, 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:33.919 seventeen seventy six is a great musical. It's also an 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.199 important year in American history. It's a musical, Yes it is. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.840 Sit down, John, It's it's a very important year in 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:45.000 American history. And in fact it features the first time 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.680 that someone was attempting to use a submarine in actual 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.160 wartime during the Revolutionary War here in what is now America, 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.679 but at the time was a British colony, and colonist 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.199 David Bushnell built the submarine. It's called the Turtle. You 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.760 may have heard of this. It was kind of egg shaped. Uh, 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.399 it's the first submarine ever to actually attack an enemy ship, 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:21.280 not successfully, but we'll get into it. Bushnell supposedly talked 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.120 with another luminary of the time, a certain Benjamin Franklin, 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.720 a smarty pants, who kind of advised him on his plan, 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:35.320 and they built this egg shaped submarine that had two propellers, 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:39.359 so sort of screw shaped propellers, one facing directly in 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.639 front of the person, so rotating a hand crank one 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:47.960 direction would cause you it to pull the submarine along, 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:51.320 so you would go forward. The second propeller was in 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.840 a vertical alignment, so it allow you to sink lower 0:21:55.080 --> 0:22:00.800 or surface again. Um And the whole purpose of this 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.880 was to allow someone to very secretly and sneakily get 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:10.359 up to enemy ships. So British Navy ships surface, drill 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:16.359 a hole into the enemy shop, attach a mine that 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.679 has a clockwork mechanism to allow it to detonate. I 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.840 didn't get the heck out of dodge before things go 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.240 what's a simple plan, simple plan? What could go wrong 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.840 could possibly happen in that time for a minute, would 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.480 cause some kind of disasters. Now now, fortunately spoiler alert 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.159 for people who get really anxious about this kind of stuff. 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.199 No disaster occurred, but it was unsuccessful. So it was 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:46.119 unsuccessful but not tragic for Bushnell, or to that matter, 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:50.359 for Ezra Lee, who was the sergeant who actually piloted 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.240 the turtle. Uh. Bushnell said, here's the thing. I built, 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.840 the darn thing. I'm not strong enough. We're skilled enough 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.200 to actually pilot it. Like there's a foot pedal that 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.760 would allow you to control the bladders that would that 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.639 would bring on water or remove water. There were the 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:10.359 two hand cranks for navigation. Uh, it was very hot work. 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.800 It's extremely physical. Yeah, you know, to to propel this 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.760 thing through the water, I get it. Yeah, yeah, And 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:20.280 this was not hydrodynamically designed. Really, and so as really 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.359 did it. He managed to get up to a British 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.199 ship called the Eagle, but he was unable to penetrate 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:32.560 the eagles hull with a drill. And there's some conjecture 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:34.720 about why this is. Some people think that perhaps he 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.439 was even suffering from carbon dioxide poisoning, that he had 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.920 been breathing so heavily and breathing his own air for 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.680 so long that that that made it exacerbated things, made 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.639 him weaker than he otherwise would have been. Sure and 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.240 I think that's the case in all of these we 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.320 talked about so far. When you're under the surface, you're 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.480 you're physically powering the ship, and you're you're you're exercising, 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.280 you're breathing more than you would at rest. Sure, so 0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.800 that becomes a factor in all of these. I doubt 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.280 that any people earlier than this and even considered that possibility, right. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.720 And you know, some of the earlier submarines had things 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.440 like air tubes that would extend up above the surface. 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.480 But obviously if you want something that's going to be sneaky, 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.439 you can't do that. You know, hard it would be 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.439 to breathe through a snorkele that it would be let's say, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.440 even even ten ft long, be very difficult. So I 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:22.560 don't I doubt the effectiveness of that long for a 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.560 crew of men, right, And so yeah, until you get 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.040 to the point where you have things like carbon dioxide scrubbers, 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.480 which is much much much later, it's just it's it's 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.800 it's a you can just imagine it being a miserable 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.119 experience to the inside one of these. Sure, so they 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.199 think he may have when he exited the ship, he 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.000 might have been a little bit delirious. Sure, Okay. Now 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.680 he realized that he wasn't gonna be able to complete 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.159 his mission, so the best thing he could do is 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.960 try and escape. So he gets back into the turtle 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:52.879 and starts to move away, and the British see that 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.560 there's something flowing in the water, and like, what the 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:56.639 heck is that, Let's send some roboats out there to 0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:01.040 check it out. So some British sailors get into rowboats 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.200 and you know, they've got guns and stuff. Turtles not 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.960 really gonna be able to withstand too much punishment. So 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.680 what Lee does is he's pretty smart. He he lets 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.240 loose the mind so that it's a distraction. It doesn't 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.919 blow up, but it does create another thing for everyone 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.280 to go check out. While he continues to try and scaaddle. 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.680 He manages to get a safe distance away and escapes. 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.440 He does not know the turtle does not collapse. He 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.480 managed to get away. It does not mark a successful 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.720 attempt to attack an enemy ship, but it is the 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.800 first time in recorded history where we have someone using 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:45.560 a submarine to try to attack annoy. Yes. Now, in 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:49.440 the sevent nineties, a guy comes up with his own 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.680 idea for submarines and things that would be a great 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:57.400 weapon in war. This guy would later on become incredibly 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.600 famous for a related technology. And that guy is Robert Fulton. 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.680 And if the name sounds familiar, it's because you probably 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.080 are like a fan of things like like Mark Twain, 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.480 because Fulton was the guy who made the steamship really famous. 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.840 So late seventeen hundreds, you know, it's almost the almost 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.320 the turn of the century. He comes up with this 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.640 idea for submarines and he at the time not real 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.000 crazy about the British Navy, not a big fan. He 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.240 goes over to France, meets a meets a guy named Bony. 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:34.879 Nappy Bony Napoleon Bonaparte is friends. That's funny, so Nappy 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.280 Bony he says to him, Hey, buddy, uh short stuff, 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.879 just kidding. It really wasn't. But he said, hey, buddy, 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.160 I got this idea. This if you if you make 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:49.200 this this underwater boat, not only will you be incredibly 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:54.679 effective against enemy ships, but ultimately you'll be so effective 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.199 that no one will ever dare use their navy against you, 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.479 because you'll just decimate that name. In fact, we'll eventually 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.600 get to a point. And I can't believe that Robert 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.080 Fulton was arguing this, but it's so funny that history 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.560 repeats itself. We'll get to a point where everyone will 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.320 build these underwater ships, and then no one will ever 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.600 declare war on anyone else, because if you were, you 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.240 would be reigning down destruction on yourself. He was arguing 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:25.440 about mutually assured destruction via submarine battle. Yeah, and then 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.920 flash forward a couple hundred years and you've got the 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.960 whole basis of the Cold War. Right, was really talking 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.199 up the submarine capabilities here well, and he really believed it. 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.000 I mean, he was sure that he could do this, 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.040 and in fact, he created some pretty innovative features in 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.879 his design. He created some fins, some stabilization fins that 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.960 also would allow for controlled diving so that you'd be 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.280 able to steer while diving, which was brand new before 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.840 it either would start sinking or would start surfacing. And 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.920 that was it. But his design got a little more 0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:02.040 sophisticated in that. So are we talking like a nuclear warheads? 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.080 You know, like like nuclear tipped ballistic missiles and things 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.200 like that. Now we're talking still like clockwork mine. I 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.159 guess I jumped ahead a little bit. Yeah, still a 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.160 little he did have. He did add a periscope. He's 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.960 the first guy to add a periscope to a submarine. 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.199 Well that's pretty cool. Yeah. Now, periscopes have been around 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.399 for a while, but they have been used on land. 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.679 They had not been used on submersibles. So if you 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.880 happen to, let's say I want to attend the town parade, 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.400 but perhaps you are on the shorter side, you could 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.760 get a periscope and see over the crowd. Right. It's 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.679 just a series of mirrors and lenses, is all. It 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.280 is perfect use of one. Yeah, And so he came 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.680 up with the idea of actually incorporating that in the 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.800 design of submarines, so that you could peek up above 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.840 the surface of the water without completely coming up right 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.840 giving it away. Yeah, I mean, the whole point of 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.120 this was to try and create a secret stealth vehicle. 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.800 He gave his prototype. He actually built one of these, 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.680 and he gave his prototype an awesome name that would 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.640 be used for other summary, the nautilus. Oh yeah, a 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.520 great name for a submarine. But the French looked at 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.760 it and they said, here's the problem. Because at this 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:14.240 point it's still manpowered. It's too slow it's too cumbersome. 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:19.280 It's not a good vehicle for war because by the 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.280 time we actually deploy one and get toward a ship, 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.160 you're moving so slowly that if you are detected, there's 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.160 really nothing else you can You can't really take a 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.360 base of maneuvers. You're not gonna be able to outrun anybody. 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.720 Um It to us is too much expense, not enough 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:39.160 reward for that expense. So Fulton's heartbroken. He's tried to 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.840 push this on the French because of his hatred of 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.080 the British Navy. So then he does the only thing 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.239 and he smart businessman does. He goes to England and 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.280 he says to the English government, Hey, you know, the 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.800 French we're thinking about this submersible thing. But I've got 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.880 the idea, I got the plans right here, buddy. I 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.760 can give it to you today for half true capitalist 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.440 right there, right. So he comes up to them and uh, 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.000 Prime Minister William Pitt looks in and says, this is 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.680 really interesting, but I would much prefer to hire you 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.680 to create what we're called torpedoes. But they were not 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.080 the kind of torpedoes we think of today. They were 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.239 still essentially clockwork mines. His idea was to create a 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.960 raft that would have a mine mounted on the underside 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.320 of the raft. You would have a sailor paddle a 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.880 raft that has a lower profile than most boats out 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.120 to a ship attached the mind to an enemy ship, 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.960 paddle away and then eventually the timer would go off 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.800 and the mind would explode. Uh. And that he got 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.600 paid for, but no one want the nautilus. Eventually it 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.560 would get junked. And then he would come back to 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.600 the United States and get into steamships in a big way. 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.080 So his story ended. Uh. You know, he didn't end 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.920 in defeat. He did plenty well for himself and until 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.760 he Uh. In a semi related view, we talked about steamboats, 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:59.760 like paddle boat steamboats. Yeah in Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, you 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.240 know what, there's still there's still examples of those around. 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.360 People still jump on those for riverboat cruises down the 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.440 down the Mississippi and things like that. It's a it's 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.040 a fun time. People tried using steam engines to power submarines. 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.360 Can you imagine a couple of problems with that? You 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.520 can imagine lots of problems with it. Yes, So one 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.560 is that you have to have fire yes, which which 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.920 would take up quite a bit of oxygen, and oxygen 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.680 is at a premium when you're underwater. As it turns out, 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.720 that was the biggest issue. Heat also another one, but 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.760 oxygen being very important, that was that was one. Another 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:38.600 big problem actually is that steamships use boilers. Right, You've 0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.360 got a container filled with water, right, So it turns 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.880 out you've got a container of water inside a vessel 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.720 that itself is in a body of water. Whenever that 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.240 vessel would change in attitude right, starting to point down 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.080 or point up or left or right, the water slashes around. 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.080 This causes more internal momentum, which changes the motion of 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:04.040 the overall vessel, which meant that for those particular early submarines, 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.920 when you were diving, you were diving at a real 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.760 steep descent, and same thing when you were coming up, 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.280 you were ascending at a very steep angle. So imagine 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.800 those old episodes of Star Trek where the entire crew 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.800 is being is like throwing themselves left and right on 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.760 the bridge, except that's really happening and going forward and 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.160 backward every single time. Oh my gosh, there's no there's 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.600 no walking between um and parts of the vessel. When 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.520 it's ascending or decent. It's more like rolling between the 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.640 You're you're just hanging on and hoping that you don't 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.720 fall to the bottom if you're lucky. Maybe maybe you're 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.280 strapped into something if you're really fortunate. But yes, there 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.120 was a real problem, and that was a problem for 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.680 submarines really leading all the way up to the electrical age. 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.480 There are a couple of other really cool historical ones. 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.080 Well that and well one last thing on the steam 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.240 powered ones. Boilers had a propensity to explode sometimes. Yep, 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.120 that was also an issue. Weren't well put together. They 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.400 were also sometimes converted into submarines. One of the ones 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.680 during the Civil War was there are actually a few 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.880 submarines that were built and submersible semi submersibles that were 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:06.920 built during the Civil War. Here in the United States, 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.480 the Union had one called the Alligator, which is kind 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.840 of cool. There was a human powered submarine used by 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.080 the Union forces and a sealable hatchway that allowed a 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.640 diver to leave the boat while it was underwater for 0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.040 the purposes of attaching a mind to an enemy ship. 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.240 Now that's a cool idea, and it was the first 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.200 time anyone had managed to make one of those. By 0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:26.720 the way, Alligator is a great name for one of 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.760 those because it looks like an alligator on the surface. 0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.560 It does. Uh, that particular design was just looking at 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.480 it's pretty terrifying. But yeah, this idea of having essentially 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:41.080 like an airlock style a diver's lock was really innovative 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.680 and allowed them to do stuff that other ships could 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.680 not do. They'd have to surface in order for someone 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.920 to get out, right, they couldn't just let them out 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.560 in the underwater. But on the Confederate side of the war, 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.800 you had one of these boilers that got converted into 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.200 a submarine. That was done by a guy named H. L. Huntley, 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.640 and the Confederates were really determined to use this submarine. 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.280 You can tell because on the first two test runs, 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.279 not actual deployments of the Hunley, but the first two 0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.880 test runs it sank both times. The first time it 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.160 killed five crew members. The second time it killed everyone aboard, 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:21.560 including Hunley himself. Yeah, so all the crew perished. They 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.960 still used it. The Confederates deployed it um and it 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.839 even was used to sink a ship. It actually sank 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.000 the USS who Satonic in a successful attack. But the 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.279 Hunley also sank. Uh. Some people think that maybe it 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:44.200 suffered damage because it it's weapon was essentially a long 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.600 spear tipped with an explosive, so he had to actually 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:53.120 ram into the side of the enemy show. So the 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.560 inventor then didn't get to see the success of his 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.040 own invention, right, he had already drowned in a trial, 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:04.160 and then as the Hunley was sailing away from the 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:09.040 housatanic Uh, it sank, either because it suffered damage from 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:13.440 that explosion, or there's also the possibility that a nearby 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.880 ship that was rushing to the aid of the Union 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.320 vessel that was struck the wake that it was creating 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.800 was enough to slash over and open hatch on the 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.480 Hunley and thus flooded. You know what, I just hearing 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.000 the story, it seems like the explosive on a stick 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.799 might be the might be the problem. Probably probably problem 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.880 number one you're gonna get I mean, you don't have 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.600 a whole lot of control, you know, the longer that 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.400 stick gets, really so, so I'm assuming that it was 0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.320 a fairly short stick, and probably they did sustain some damage. 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.400 I'm sure, yeah, I mean, and like I said, it 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.080 was the fact that they had already lost a crew 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.160 plus five crew all but five crew members two in trials. 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:57.439 We're talking like two essentially two full cruise really man. Yeah, 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.680 and yet they were determined to try and get this 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.080 to Yeah. I guess so. The first and then none 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.440 of those, by the way, we're mechanical. Those were all 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.280 human powered submarines. The first mechanical submarine didn't launch until 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:15.719 eighteen sixty three in France, called Le plongeur y because 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.120 it takes the plant. Yeah, and it used compressed air. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.480 It also had that same problem I was talking about 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.040 with the stability issues with with the steam powered ones, 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.680 and that it would do those very steep dives and 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.920 ascensions back up to the surface, to the point where 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.759 no one thought of it as practical. It was just 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.360 two It was too unwieldy, too uncontrollable, whenever you wanted 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.920 to dive or surface. Man, that's something I don't want 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:42.759 to hear when I get into a submarine, is it's 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:47.520 it's uncontrollable. Yeah, not not the best adjective. It doesn't. 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.719 It doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence as 0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.399 they're stealing that hatch. That's like, that's like hearing it's 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:58.080 almost water tight, and most of them were almost water sure. Yeah, 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.840 so we're getting up to the end of my my 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.480 history lesson here. In the eighteen eighties, that's when the 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.680 battery technology was starting to get to the point where 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.040 you were beginning to see people put in electric motors 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.759 and experiment with that for submarines, which turned out to 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:17.160 be fantastic because you no longer needed manpower to move 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.600 the parts. You didn't have to worry about steam, you 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.279 didn't have to worry about a fire, you didn't have 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.680 to worry about that slashing that was creating stability issues. 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.520 And that's really where the technology for submarines began to 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.719 take off, and people began to refine things like the 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:35.319 design of the submarine, the various instrumentation you would need 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.000 on a submarine to be able to navigate effectively underwater, 0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.000 particularly once you start getting to depths where you can 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:46.560 no longer have any sort of transparent window. You have 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:51.680 to You're you're sailing by instrumentation alone. So clearly you 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:56.239 have to have extremely precise maps and extremely precise instruments. 0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:01.600 And we're talking, Yeah, it's not exactly as precise as 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.160 it is today. No, No, It wouldn't be until after 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.200 like World War two era that we started getting really 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:12.520 really accurate underwater maps. Terrifying after World War Two, and 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.640 you know how extensively they were used in you know 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.960 World War two. Sure, yeah, the U boats, I mean 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.160 that was the Germany was infamous for their U boats. 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:26.040 They were they were really inspired terror on the seat, 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.640 so they were feared by all. Yeah, yeah, and so 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.359 you know, but it was not it still wasn't an 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.839 era where you really knew everything that you were going 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.200 to encounter. And of course you can't see anything down there, 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.160 so you're you're lying completely upon the records that have 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.439 been generated over time and you know, keeping an eye 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.799 on a watch to make sure, you know, okay, well, 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.800 in five seconds, we need to have a twenty degree 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.880 turned to port. Oh my gosh, I think think of 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.960 what a what a map of the ocean floor might 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.200 look like in eighteen sixty. I mean you're going by 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:05.680 that here they're be squid essentially. Yeah, So that gives 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:11.680 us our our background. And now it's finally time for 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:15.000 us to talk about personal submarines. We're gonna skip ahead 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.960 over all the different you know, the different evolutions of 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.280 the battery powered and the diesel power the nuclear powered submarines, 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.680 we're gonna go straight to pleasure craft, essentially, is what 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.680 it comes down to. And in my research, I essentially 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.000 came to the conclusion that that these personal submarines are 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:39.719 meant for one of three potential markets. Market Number one 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:45.560 is for perhaps organizations dedicated to studying the ocean, and 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.680 they have a massed enough money to get some of 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.360 these smaller submarines to allow for more maneuverability to study 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.399 specific biomes under the sea. But a lot of them 0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.239 tend to be a little more um luxury bay faced 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.560 them what you would typically think of for a research 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:08.040 instat sure. Number two tourism, so to our companies, like 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.680 you might go around on a cruise and you see 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.600 on the excursions take a submarine ride on such and such. 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:15.920 I can see that happening too, especially for some of 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.840 the higher end ones, where you're going to a company 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.840 that has invested money into buying one of these and 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.000 then they make it back by selling admission to take 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.719 rides on a vacation location which is going to have 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.839 crystal clear waters and lots of wildlife. Th A're going 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.239 to like st Thomas or something, and you want to 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.480 be able to see the ocean. Third is fill these 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:41.839 stink and rich billionaires who just want the adventure all 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.120 about adventure. Yeah, I have a feeling that's and if 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.279 you're looking at the marketing for most of these that 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.680 seems to be who they're targeting, which you imagine has 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.360 got to be a fairly small market. But it's a market. 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:54.960 And you know what, they sell plenty of cars that 0:40:55.000 --> 0:41:01.239 are these ultra high luxury you know, extremely um expensive 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.040 toys for the very wealthy, and they sell a lot 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.400 of them every year. So there's there is a market 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.920 out there. Yeah, it amazes me that. Well it's because 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.080 again we're not in that tax bracket and so it's 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.160 hard for me to imagine a life where I could 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.719 uh one, where I could even afford one, and to 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.080 where not only could I afford one, but I could 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:26.759 buy it. And still you know, eat um because right 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.000 now we're talking about vehicles that if I were to 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.080 save up over the course of twenty years, I might 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.439 be able to buy one. But that's if I didn't 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.520 spend money on anything else, right, So saving every single 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.359 penny make and nothing else right, right, Like just I've 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.680 become an air terry and I'm just a breath area. 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.000 That's when I'm just breathing air and taking them all 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.680 my nutrients, which doesn't work. But it's very very expensive 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.120 to get into this game, isn't it. Yeah? And I 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.480 was looking around. I came across an organization called p 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:01.000 subs p subs dot org, and they actually have some 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.440 interesting information. First of all, uh, here is a definition 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.760 for personal submarines that I pulled from the sites. Personal 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.600 submarines are those submarines which are owned by some person 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.759 as a personal property and not owned by a government 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:18.080 or any public organization. They're usually used for recreational underwater 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.879 experience exploration, or sometimes for scientific research. They're usually small 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:27.560 size and sometimes are called many submarines. Their capacity ranges 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:31.440 from one person to twenty five or more persons. At 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.240 that point, I don't think I can call it really small. Uh. 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.920 Usually five to nine seater submarines are used for research purpose, 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.840 and submarines with higher capacity are used for tourism purposes. 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:48.600 In nineteen the Personal Submersibles Organization or peace UBS was founded. Now, 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.800 this started as a group of enthusiasts who were talking 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:56.440 about boats on a list server, the old list servers 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.640 of the real pre web days or early web days. 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.479 So they would go to a list server called wreck 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.799 dot Boats dot Building r EC, wreck like Recreation, so 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.120 this people who build boats for fun, you know, things 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.120 that they're building pleasure craft. Well, there were about four 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.160 or five people on that list who wanted to talk 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:19.759 about the possibility of a personal submarine, but that really 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.640 didn't fit with the overall conversation that was going on 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.360 in the group, so they took it offline. Well, they 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.280 kept it online, but they took it off the list 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.200 and they just started chatting through email. They just kind 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.960 of had a group email going where they were talking 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:37.000 about their interests. Eventually they decided to create their own 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.560 list server. In they created an archive of it, and 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:46.640 by October they secured the domain peace subs dot org. 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.600 And uh, as it stands, if you go to that 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.279 today p subs dot org, you can find tons of 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:58.359 information about personal submarines and they're deep discussions about things 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:03.240 and they have very important points to make about things 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:09.279 like safety and reliability and how useful is that? How 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.960 user friendly are some of these because as you can 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:17.440 imagine Scott piloting one of these things underwater is not 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:21.680 necessarily the most intuitive thing, especially when you get into 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.520 more complicated environments like you're talking about reefs and things 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:29.799 of that nature. And um, uh, I'm sure you could 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.560 imagine that these are not vehicles that necessarily say stop 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.279 on a dime. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not as 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.120 intuitive as it would be to drive a car or 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.839 something in that same Uh. You know, you're not driving 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.680 up to the edge of a cliff and stopping. You're 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:49.480 also having to deal with with with currents, Yeah, exactly right, 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.960 and uh, and just a host of other things that 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.319 you're not even thinking about that you know, up down 0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.680 motion versus just you know, left right back forward. You've 0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.960 also got you know, another access to com you know, 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.000 to be concerned with. And and not all of these, 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.399 not all of them we're gonna talk about have those 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.239 really really simple controls. But they're getting there. Some of 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.120 the newer ones are very user friendly, and their goal 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.640 is to make them easy enough for anybody to drive. Yeah, 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.720 to make it so intuitive that just with a simple 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.960 training session you can get to a point where you're 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.560 comfortable enough piloting around uh an open ocean environment, for example, 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.319 or a lake environment in some cases, but it hasn't 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.759 always been that way. No, No, And and you know 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.799 it took a lot of work from a lot of 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.000 people to get up to that point. Um. I'm sure 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.400 when you were looking through all this you came across 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:51.719 the name Graham Hawks. Yes, so Graham Hawks was He 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.120 is a marine engineer who was born in London nineteen 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.359 and uh. He was famous for lots of stuff. I mean, 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.440 he's built pretty much in the nine ninies, all of 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.560 the small submersibles were based off of his designs. And 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.600 he set a world record in two thousand seven for 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.160 the deepest solo dive. That was when he went down 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.680 around almost three thousand feet UM in a solo submarine. 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.560 And he held that record for a long time until 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:23.440 a certain Hollywood director smashed it. Yeah, but he was 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.759 in the deep rover. And as it turns out, like 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:28.719 a lot of the personal submarines that are out there 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:32.600 now are are still they're they're his designs. Like if 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.160 you see any of the deep flight stuff, most of 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.640 the deep flight stuff comes directly from his design. Now, 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.400 that's what I'm familiar with him and is in the 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.880 deep flight in particular, in the is it. What's it 0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.480 called the Dragon? I think it's the one two person submersible. 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.920 Looks an awful lot like, as he describes it, like 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.359 a Formula one car does that goes underwater? Yeah, very cool. 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.520 And he describes it as as almost like a quad 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.719 copter that you're flying underwater, if you want to put 0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.719 it that way. Yeah. It's got two vertically aligned rotors 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:05.400 that are on either side of the chassis where you 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.480 would be sitting, and those allow you to have that 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:12.000 hovering ability at a certain depth, right, Like you could 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.799 actually set how deep you want to go up to, 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:19.920 up to the vehicle's limit, Like you don't have unlimited diving. 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:23.000 It can only go so far. It goes down to 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.239 about just shy a four hundred feet. You know what's 0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.560 funny is, as we're talking about this now and you 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.880 just mentioned that somebody had shattered his record, I hadn't 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.440 been familiar with his record up and up until this point, 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.280 but something that he said in one of the videos 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:41.040 that I watched in preparation for today, it's telling. I 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:42.520 guess he said, you know, it used to be all 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.680 about we wanted to go deeper, deeper, deeper. That was 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.920 one of the things he said, you know, that was 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.839 the point ahead of time, and he said, now now 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:53.000 we've we've kind of shifted to a different mindset. It's 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.360 now that we want to make the ocean more accessible 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.160 to everybody we wanted to be. Um is something that 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.520 is a little more include that. You know, anybody can 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.319 spend just a few bucks to rent a sub and 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.440 go out and enjoy what we've been enjoying all along. 0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.560 But it has cost us millions of dollars. You can 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.560 you can now just spend a few dollars and go 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.160 out and you know, kind of get that experience, even 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.080 if it's for one day. But we're not talking about 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.520 as you just mentioned, and I'm getting us a little 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.400 bit off track. I'm sorry, but the depth things, the 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.640 depth thing really got to me. But you were saying that, 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.319 you know, most of them are kind of limited to 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:28.759 just ballparkable. We'll guess it's like feet. Yeah, that's that's 0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.920 the majority of the personal subs that I looked up. 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.360 Is that's your maximum death if you if you're looking 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:36.440 at like the super expensive ones, the ones that are 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.040 a couple of million dollars. Uh, some of the ones 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:43.240 that U s submarines slash Titan do are tritting, I'm sorry. 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.960 Triton do are are rated to go much deeper, but 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:50.880 those are the ones that are incredibly expensive. Did you 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.719 ever see the Abyss, the movie The Abyss? Yes, you 0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.400 know those those sort of orb shaped submersible as they use. 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:00.920 Almost all of the Triton ones look like and there 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.600 are several of those that are rated to go U 0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:08.879 really really deep. Um, but they you know, they don't 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.000 look they're not sexy like the deep Flight ones. The 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.680 deep flight ones. You look at that and you're like, oh, 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.760 that looks like it looks like a sports vehicle. Well, 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.799 there's a good reason for all this too, and that's 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.360 because the people that are going to be buying something 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.319 like this, I mean, it's all about seeing what's down there, right, 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:25.880 And when you get to a certain depth in anybody 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.520 of water, there's going to be a point where sunlight 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.120 doesn't penetrate anymore. It's it's black. So if let's say, 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.480 for instance, you know the one video that I watched 0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:38.640 from Deep Flight was shot in Lake Tahoe, and Lake 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:42.040 Tahoe very crystal clear blue water, right, but about four 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.400 feet down, it's pointless to go any deeper than that 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:48.600 in a submarine. That's meant just for observation. If you're 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.160 going down to you know, take samples, that's something different. 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:52.719 You know, you don't need to be able to see 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.560 in order to do that. You have external lights and 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.160 you can you can check out what's there. But if 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.840 you're going down there just simply for the beauty of 0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:59.840 the lake and to really experience it into you know, 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.680 at the wow factor, I guess it's pointless to go 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.640 below about four feet in that lake with a passenger 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.520 who's just more of a sightseer. And and that's what 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.560 this type of craft is really for, so you know, 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:14.040 they they've built it. That's a that's a test depth, 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.920 I guess is that the depth there's you know, kind 0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:18.759 of mentioned something right now too what we're talking about this. 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:20.880 There are three types of depth that will come up 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.799 when you talk about submersibles, and the first one is 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.080 test depth, or if you're reading about them, you'll you'll 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:30.400 come across these. Test depth is the maximum depth that 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.160 that a sub can go in normal operation. That's what 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:35.400 that you know that they're saying like, probably shouldn't take 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.520 a blow about three and thirty feet you want to 0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.239 stay ap of that, of course. Uh, there's design depth, 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.120 and designed depth is a little bit different, but that's 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:45.399 the depth of design engineers think that the sub can 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.600 go and still be able to return to the surface safely, 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.640 you know, without any kind of crushing, without any collapse 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.719 of any of the structure of the of the sub 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:55.080 because of the pressure. Uh. And then there is crushed depth. Now, 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.960 crushed depth, that's something that you want to stay away from, 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:01.200 of course. Unfortunately, that's the depth that happened that a 0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.320 lot of subs achieve when they they're out of control 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.279 and they just simply dropped to the bottom. Now there's 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.239 a there's a crush depth. Then what happens is that 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.279 there's a rupture or a tear in the body. It's 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.960 it's crushed by the pressure, the immense pressure on the outside. 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.520 It just collapses it like a can. And what happens 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.400 is that the pressure from the outside becomes instantly the 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.400 same pressure on the inside and just rips everything apart. 0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:27.080 So implosure. Yeah. So if you hear of a sub 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:29.000 that has dropped to the bottom of the ocean, there's 0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.600 a good chance that it has achieved crushed depth. And 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.640 if it has. There's there's really no saving that crew 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.319 or sub or you know, any of that. But there's 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.400 a chance, there's a chance, there's a slight chance that 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.239 you can come back from crush depth. You can get 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.240 to a point where a sub will have exterior damage. 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.680 You know that it does begin to collapse, and if 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.759 it's recovered quickly enough, they can they can make it 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.200 back to the surface. So you can get to what 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.480 they do call crushed depth and then and still make it. 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.000 But it's uh actually they say that, you know, it's 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.160 it's probably more common that you might think, because they 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.439 realize something's wrong. You know, the spring a leak, there's 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.160 there's some collapsing going on. You hear you hear groaning 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.560 in the submarine that is beyond what you normally hear. Yeah, 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.319 you know, I heard a tail and this is just 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.360 something that bread somewhere. I don't have a you know, 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.560 a source for this because I just didn't write it down, 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.920 but a couple of sailors that were in a submarine 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:19.919 said that they would tie you know, the the ribs. 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.399 I guess to go around the outside of the shub. 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.160 And this is an older, primitive sub I think there 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:27.280 were marine sub um sorry, not a marine sub, a 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.960 naval sub and they tie they what they would do 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.879 is they tie a string between the walls I guess, 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:33.960 at the sub if you want to call it, at 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.440 the rounded walls of the sub on a couple of 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.480 these these these um just hooks that they had up there, 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:41.759 and they would tie it tight and as the sub 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.279 would descend, it would It was because the interiors being 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.520 pushed in exactly right. So they knew if they were 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.520 going deeper and deeper, there would be more and more 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.279 slack in that line, and as they went and they 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.319 started to rise to the surface that it would become 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:58.040 tight again. They gets to a point where you're saying, captain, 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.959 we might need to you know, we just just let's 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.920 just go up a couple of feet. So what you 0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.480 might not want to do, though, is is is secure 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:07.200 something like that. Let let's say if it was it 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:11.400 was it was a wire wire instead of a rope. 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.040 That's something that doesn't have any give. You definitely don't 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.400 want to attach that while you're at depth ascend. It 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.120 just tears. It's going to rip the walls apart. Yeah, 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.439 So that was a clever way, you know, for them 0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.120 just kind of wherever in the sub to kind of 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.560 have a semi accurate measure of how deep they are. 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.880 I like that idea. Uh. Fortunately, with the pleasure subs 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:37.680 we're talking about, that would not really be a factor 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:39.279 for most of them, because most of them, again are 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.160 like one or two person ones for the for the 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.319 real pleasure. So there's something that are like five or 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:46.240 seven people. But that then it's like a pilot sitting 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:47.920 in the front and then a group of people saying 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:49.880 kind of behind or to the side of the pilot 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.000 and you can kind of look through like an observation 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.600 window an underwater bus. Yeah, yeah, with a big bubble front. 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:57.120 And you know that's the thing is that all of 0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:01.040 these that we found, uh, sight seeing I guess, or 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.000 just being able to see everything around you is keyed 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.040 in this. It's not it's not like a military subwhere 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:07.759 you know, again it's instruments and you're down in the 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.479 depths where it's dark. This is all about being able 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:14.040 to connect with the water, the you know, the the um, 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.840 the aquali, the aquatic life. I guess it's a struggling 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.480 for words. Yeah, it's all about being able to see, 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.520 you know, animals like like dolphins and whales and all 0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:29.399 the varieties of fish. So you definitely want nice large 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.279 viewable like ports that you can look out. You want 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:37.520 and you want a a vehicle that you can operate 0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:40.040 by sight like you can you can navigate by sight, 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.239 I mean, you would still have instrumentation to keep you 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.960 aware of where your relative position is compared to say, 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:51.040 let's be honest, you're super yacht, because chances are that's 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:54.000 how you got out to wherever you are anyway, So 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:55.239 you've gotta be able, you know, you need to know 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:56.960 where you're super yacht is. The most of these have 0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:01.640 operating uh, like you small operating hours that range between 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:04.160 like four and eight hours somewhere around there. Some of 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.680 them are less than that. So obviously you don't want 0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:08.200 to go too far away because if you do, then 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:09.719 that's gonna be a lot of rowing for you to 0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:12.600 get back to your super yacht. Almost all our electric 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.799 operation as well, Yeah, yeah, they all all the ones 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:19.000 I came across where lithium battery powered. Uh. A lot 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:24.319 of them have a specific type of of buoyancy. It's 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:28.239 fixed positive buoyancy is what's called yes. That means that 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.640 when everything is turned off, it is naturally bullyant, so 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.239 it'll it'll float to the top. So for example, the 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.680 Dragon one you were mentioning earlier, it has those two 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.359 rotors that are like almost like a drone rotors right 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:43.279 that that are vertically aligned. Well, those are what allow 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:46.160 you to stay under the water. Along with forward momentum. 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.360 It's got some of that same design that I mentioned 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:53.360 from centuries ago, where moving forward helps drive the nose 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.759 of your vehicle down a little bit, so it keeps 0:55:55.760 --> 0:56:00.360 you submerged. But the two rotors definitely maintain that and 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.640 allow you to have a nice level attitude while you're 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:06.279 going down there. Uh, all that turns off, then it's 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:09.360 just gonna rise up to the top of the water 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.080 because it's positively bulliant. Yeah, and control of that is 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.040 very simple. I mean I said, they're trying to make 0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.480 it as easy as possible for everybody now to use 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:18.719 these and uh, you know, the the left hand I 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:22.040 believe operates the up down attitude of the of the 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.160 you know, of the ship, and the the other hand, 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.520 your right hand would operate a joystick, which would allow 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:30.680 you a little further movement left, right, you know, forward, backward, 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.359 that type of thing. So it's very very simple. And 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.960 these these particular ones we're talking about, like the Dragon, 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.440 are design kind of like a fighter jet where you've 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.560 got the the pilot and passenger. It's front and back 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:47.080 type of seating arrangement, seated side by side, which actually 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:48.759 kind of think is kind of cool. That's a real 0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.920 cool design. Yeah. They also have one called the super Falcon, 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.280 which is it looks more like a jet than the Dragon. 0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:57.360 The Dragon looks kind of like a car, and the 0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:59.440 super Falcon looks kind of like a jet. It's a 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:04.400 little or needle shaped. Um it's it's almost twenty ft long. 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:08.960 So they still say it's one of the smaller personal 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:12.480 submersibles that can fit on your typical super yacht. And 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.880 I'm thinking all of these words don't make sense to me. 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:20.640 Smaller personal submarine and typical super yacht. All of that 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:24.280 is like so antithetical to my experience that I'm having 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.760 difficulty imagining it. By the way, if you're a listener 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.320 of tech stuff and you have a super yacht and 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.320 you would like to show me what a super yacht's 0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:36.880 all about, I'll take you up on it. Um, Because 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.360 I've never been on one. I've been on cruise ships. 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.360 That's as close as I've managed to get personally own 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:45.360 cruise ships. No, I know, the cruise ships I was 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:51.200 on were owned by enormous corporations, including one that has 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:55.320 a couple of really popular theme parks around the world. Um. 0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:59.120 But yeah, these are these are your basic kind of 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:03.280 personal submarine craft. They use electric motors. Uh, they use 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:07.360 electric propellers. Um. And you're showing me some more of 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.720 the designs over here. Well, you know, here's the thing. 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.400 I when we were talking about personal watercraft, I was thinking, 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:16.400 where have I seen some good examples of this? And 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:19.360 I remember, you know, flying many years ago, and I 0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:20.960 fly all the time. But now they don't. Now they 0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.200 don't have that Skymall magazine thumb through anymore. But when 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.840 they did have sky Mall, there was a company by 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.600 the name of and I hope I don't botch this, 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:33.360 but it's it's Hammocker Schlimmler, Hamaker, Schlimmer Schlimmer. That's that's 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.760 a Hammerker Schlimmer. I was called Hsan. Yeah. I decided 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.400 to check out their website because I knew the company 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:40.400 was still around, so I did I did that searched 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:43.320 for the word submarine or personal submarine or something like that. 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.360 They make lots of toys for people who have way 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.280 more money. Yes, it's a it's a very expensive toy 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.360 store for adults. Right. And this is a uh, this 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:55.080 is a list of the six personal submarine vehicles that 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:58.000 they have for sale right now today. Yeah. They range 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.040 as I'm looking at here from. Uh the low end 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:04.040 is nine dollars, yeah, that's right now. The top end, 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:07.640 the top end is a shocking two point seven million dollars. 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:10.040 But you can fit five people, and well, that is 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:12.080 a five person submarine, you're right, I mean that's a 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:13.760 that's a big one that you were talking about before, 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:15.920 with more like a mini bus. I so things you know, 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.360 like you're you're you're shuttling a group of people. And 0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:21.000 the one that's ninety dollars is that one that I 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:23.320 believe most people have probably seen this already. It's the 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:25.920 one that looks like a whale, looks like an orca um. 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.960 So this one, I've I've watched this one in action. 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.600 It's got a it's got a gasoline motor. It's like 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:33.640 a supercharged engine that you know, you you have to 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.160 use fuel for and it can only go underwater briefly 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:39.760 because gasolene motors also need absolutely right. And there's a 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:42.280 maximum depth of somewhere I'm gonna ballpark this. I think 0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:44.880 it's around five feet because there's a snorkel on top 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.120 that's disguised as a dorsal fin on this thing. And 0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:49.840 it does do you know, the the surface breaching where 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:52.120 you know you can jump through the water, but and 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:53.800 you can go under water. The problem is when you 0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:55.800 go under water, you have to be going so fast. 0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:57.120 You have to because you have to you know, have 0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.600 enough drive to push yourself under the water and it's 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:03.040 pop back out again exactly that forward momentum. And I'm 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.320 not saying this isn't really cool, but this isn't one 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.080 of the subs like we're talking about where you can 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:08.680 go under and kind of really get a look around 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.560 and it's very peaceful and everything. This is more like 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:13.480 a jet ski that can take you underwater. Absolutely, but 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.920 you're you're underwater and you're going twenty five miles per 1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:17.840 hour when you're submerged, and on the surface you go 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.720 as fast as fifty miles per hour. So it's fast 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:23.720 and and it's it's clever looking, and I agree, it's 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:25.880 really it really is cool and it'd be fun to 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:28.520 be able to do that jumping motion. But it's not 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:31.520 actually one of these, you know, I guess a sight 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.439 seeing sub like some of the other ones we're talking about. 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.200 And there's some weird designs here too, and if you 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:37.200 if you look, I mean there's the of course, I 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.360 think most people are familiar with this one. You've we've 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.880 seen this one recently in the news. A lot um 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:44.320 maybe not a lot but the submarine sports cars what 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.880 they call it. It's two million dollars. It looks like 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.880 a lotus a lease. And the problem with this one though, 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.440 is that it's it's all open to the to the water. 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.360 You're not inside in our krylic you know, sphere or 1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:57.040 anything like that. Like the rest of them. You have 1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.760 to wear scuba gear. Yeah, this one relies on Scooba gear. 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.120 It's it's what is called a wet submarine. They have 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:05.800 wet submarines and dry submarines, and wet submarine is any submersible. 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:08.240 It's really people some people get really picky, they say 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:10.680 you should call this submersible, not a submarine. It's a 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:14.880 submersible that the cockpit is open, it is exposed to 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.480 the environment, which means that obviously, if you're gonna be 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:20.520 underwater for any extended a period of time rains, you've 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.040 got to be wearing scuba gear, so you have to 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:26.440 have your own personal oxygen supply and probably a mask 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:29.320 of some sort, unless you really are comfortable with your 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.440 eyes stinging like crazy, I guess so. Yeah. But the 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:33.400 cool thing about this one, though, I mean, for that 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:35.480 two million dollars, you can also just drive that one 1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:37.400 right out of the lake or the the ocean right 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:39.520 and go right on the street. It has a maximum 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:41.720 speed on land of seventy five miles per hour, so 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:43.560 you can use it as a real car, an electric car, 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:45.760 so it's like a super fast one of those super 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:49.400 fast amphibious ducks, you know they take people on tours, 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:53.000 except this one actually goes under one seventy five land, 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.480 but underwater you're you're limited to about two knots when 1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:57.920 you're submerged, so it's not very quick underwater knots a 1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:00.920 nautical miles, And it's an electric car that only has 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:02.680 an eighty mile range when you're on land, so it's 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.520 it's fairly limited in that. And that's well for an 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.680 eight you know, I'm sorry, a two million dollar cars. 1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:09.960 So you're essentially putting it into the trailer of a 1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:13.640 truck and then you're hauling it to the somewhere near 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.240 the east side. What I do is I drive it 1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:17.360 near the beach and then just for the show, you know, 1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:20.160 you drive it right right onto the boat launch and 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:22.520 right in the wall. Think and if you're a real character, 1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.160 you might be like, oh no, I've lost control and 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:28.160 you just slowly drive right into the lake or ocean 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:31.720 or whatever. Folks, well, who wouldn't do that at least once? Right, 1:02:32.440 --> 1:02:33.880 It might be a little hard to understand you because 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.800 you'll probably have some some like the you know, the rebreather, 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:41.920 the scuba rebreather and your own. But the effect will 1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:43.480 be there, Yeah, the effect would be there. And there's 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:47.400 another one that's maybe the most unusual looking one really, 1:02:47.440 --> 1:02:50.720 and that's this one they call the Amphibious Subsurface Watercraft. 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:52.800 Oh yeah, and this is the one that I probably 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.320 remember seeing in this magazine for years. It seems like 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:58.720 an older design. Uh. This one has two parts to 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.560 it and it doesn't really go as deep as you 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:02.800 might expect either. It's it's the well, the top part 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:06.040 floats like and you can you know, have your head 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:09.400 up in the upper area there. It's also enclosed and 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:12.080 it flows. It floats with that almost like a raft 1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:15.160 above above the water below. It is kind of this, 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:17.520 I guess it would hang down below the water surface, 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:19.840 and it's a it's a sphere, another arcroic sphere where 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:22.880 two people can sit and observe whatever is below you. 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:24.800 So it's kind of like a glass bottom boat, except 1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:27.480 that it actually has a secondary almost like a secondary 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:30.680 vehicle position below the primary one, and that one is 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:33.280 under the water, yes, and that has tracks as well. 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:35.240 So this is another one you can drive into the 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:37.439 water and you know, right onto a trailer if you want. 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:40.080 Now it's it's not roadworthy. It's not something that you 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:42.520 can take on you know, the streets and drive you know, 1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:44.560 to the ocean or whatever you have to. You have 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:46.280 to get this one to the water. But you know, 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.120 within the case with the other ones, you would have 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:49.520 to find a dock or you'd have to find a 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:52.640 crane something like that, or launch it from your super Yet, 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:56.560 as you said, right, so they're even more you know, difficult, 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:58.800 more complex to launch than than would be one of 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:00.439 these two that you can drive in to the water. 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.520 But a man, I mean that Okay, that one we 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:06.840 just talked about, that that subsurface warcraft. That's that's three 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.200 hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, so you're still talking a pretty 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:12.720 high entry price for something like this. So you know 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:20.440 that Richard Branson he famously purchased a deep flight Merlin submersible, 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.640 so same company that does the deep Flight Challenger, which 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:26.840 was the one that James Cameron took down to the 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:30.120 Marianna Trench the deepest dive. He he did two of 1:04:30.160 --> 1:04:36.120 those two deepest dives. Um he uh. He got that 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:39.200 one down there and was uh, you know that that 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:41.760 got all the news. But Richard Branson went out had 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:44.280 and bought a deep flight Merlin. Slightly different is a 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:48.560 wet sub so it's open cockpit um exposed to the ocean. 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:52.840 That one only six hundred thousand dollars, so only twice 1:04:52.880 --> 1:04:54.720 as much as the one you were looking at their 1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:59.640 um and it was called the Necker Nymph. Yeah. I 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:05.400 don't I don't ask questions and just read this the information. Uh. 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:07.120 I want to talk about a couple of others before 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:09.600 we sign off, because we've we've got there's so many 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:11.640 that we can chat about that are ridiculous. There there 1:05:11.640 --> 1:05:14.840 are two things that we've got to talk about. Thing 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:18.480 number one. We started off this conversation early on you 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:22.080 talked about how there's a market for this because as 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:27.480 as evidence, there's a market for high end, handmade luxury cars. 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:29.320 We've talked about those in the past, like things like 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:34.320 Bentley's and stuff. Aston Martin made a big announcement last 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:39.440 year about how the company was partnering with the personal 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:45.000 submarine company Triton to create a new high end luxury 1:05:45.080 --> 1:05:49.800 personal sub and so all we know is the barement 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:52.600 oum that Aston Martin has gotten involved in the design stage. 1:05:52.640 --> 1:05:55.960 We've seen a picture of the concept, although it's a 1:05:55.960 --> 1:06:00.520 computer generated image. It's not an actual prototype. Um not yet, 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:04.240 not yet. It is more of that floating orb style 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:07.440 of submarine. It's less of like the sports car looking 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:10.680 type thing. Uh, it's still in the concept stage. We 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:12.560 have no idea how much it's gonna cost, but if 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:16.840 it's by Aston Martin, I would suspect pretty penny would 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:19.320 be in the range. Well, I've seen numbers around, like 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:22.880 you know, four million, dollars. That that to me is 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:25.640 not at all surprising because you look at just Aston 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:28.320 Martin sports cars. Depending on the ones you're looking at, 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:32.360 like the the Aston Martin one seventy seven, there are 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:35.959 only seventy seven of them ever made. These were a supercars, 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:38.720 that high end luxury supercars that could have a top 1:06:38.720 --> 1:06:41.520 speed of like two twenty miles per hour. Those went 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:44.840 for one point eight five million dollars apiece, and now 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:47.880 there's only seventy six of them. There was a crash 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.800 in Hong Kong, or down to seventy six of those. 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:55.760 Aston Martin a m dash RB zero zero one price 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:58.680 tag of three point nine million dollars. That one does 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:02.040 not go on sale until well this year. So Scott, 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:05.000 I don't know if you've put aside any money. I've 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:08.600 already got a down payment, right, yeah, I'll have this 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:11.040 paid off in three thousand years. I have, I have 1:07:11.080 --> 1:07:13.200 a check ready to go. I just have a signed Yeah. 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:15.640 That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Well, you know, it's not 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:17.760 as strange as you might think for Aston Martin to 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:21.000 be involved with something like this. A lot of automakers 1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:26.240 have collaborated with luxury yacht makers to create some incredible 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:29.440 super yachts, you know that are powered by Lamborghini or 1:07:29.560 --> 1:07:32.240 powered by Bugatti, places like that. Well, Aston Martin has 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:34.120 done this in the past as well. They have a 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:36.880 one thousand, forty horsepower power boat that I think it 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:40.200 starts around one point six million, but it's a spectacular 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:42.880 looking boat. And it's it's, you know, I guess, a 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:44.520 break from the usual for them, you know, to do 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:47.600 something like that. It's not something normally do. But they 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:49.840 have this new branch at Aston Martin now that I 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:51.760 don't know if it's a branch a branch is the 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:53.520 best way to say it, but a new division maybe. 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:57.960 And it's called Aston Martin Consulting so AMC, which I 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:00.640 think is a funny name for Aston Martin Salting Big 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:04.240 given AMC. You know motor saters, Yeah, well theaters. I 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:07.960 was thinking that's funny. I was thinking American motors. Um. So, 1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:10.520 you know, they have all these side projects and they're 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:14.960 doing things like, um, they're creating what furniture they're creating 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.240 U their designing. Really it's it's it's they're they're pairing 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:21.479 up with other businesses that want to uh, you know, 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:24.760 get some of their expertise on design engineering, you know, 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:29.280 a structural uh um um stability, that kind of thing, 1:08:29.280 --> 1:08:31.240 you know whatever. I'm I'm searching for words here. But 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:33.360 they're doing a bunch of really crazy things right now. 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:36.559 For Aston Martin. You wouldn't tink a typical car company 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:40.360 would do something like this. Um. One thing, well, of course, 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:44.000 this is one. One thing they've tried. Is this the submarine. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:48.840 Another thing is Aston They're they're getting into building residences. 1:08:48.880 --> 1:08:52.680 So Aston Martin has building residences in I believe it's 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:54.599 in um. I think it's in Miami. Let me take 1:08:54.600 --> 1:08:57.880 a quick period. It's it's uh. The price is something like, 1:08:58.160 --> 1:09:01.639 you know, fifty million dollars. So one of these. Yeah, 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:04.120 because you're gonna find out that everything was made by hand, 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:07.679 not on like an assembly line or anything like that. Yeah, 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:11.559 exactly right. It's a but they're there, it would it 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:14.600 has less of a an Aston Martin uh touched to it. 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:16.639 Then you might think, you know, their logo is not everywhere. 1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:18.800 It's just simply that they're helping with the design of 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:22.960 this this ultra luxury condo or you know, or I 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:24.640 guess its condos. I guess that would be the way 1:09:24.680 --> 1:09:26.880 to say it, but um, some of these penthouses are 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:30.160 you know between um, you know, up to nineteen thousand 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:32.760 square feet. It's one of those types of places really luxury, 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:35.360 real luxury apartment really if you want to put it 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:38.200 that way, condo um, which I thought was strange. But 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:40.360 on the same page they have a link to something 1:09:40.360 --> 1:09:43.280 called the Porsche Tower, so I guess Porsche is also 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:45.439 getting into this, and they've they've done something where they're 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:47.720 going to create this building where you're gonna be able 1:09:47.760 --> 1:09:50.080 to ride in your Porsche car or whatever car you have. 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:53.120 It doesn't they're not gonna you know again, they're just 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:57.840 designed by the Porsche Design Group. And you ride in 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:00.479 a this is the strangest thing. You I'd in a 1:10:00.520 --> 1:10:04.439 glass elevator in your car up to your penthouse level suite. 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:07.840 So you've got the floor that's right, but everyone it's 1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:10.760 not just the penthouse level. It's every level. So your 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.160 garage and home and everything is right there, exactly right, 1:10:14.400 --> 1:10:17.400 and you're overlooking the ocean. It says it's spectacular. It's 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:21.280 a different world, and it really is, you know, And I, um, again, 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:22.960 look into those if you want to, But it's aston 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:25.840 Martin residences, and then there's also the Porsche Design Tower 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:27.200 if you want to want to check into that. But 1:10:27.680 --> 1:10:31.200 um strange that a car company, traditional car company, if 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:33.040 you want to call it, that would would be getting 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:38.280 into designing, you know, furniture and submarines, submarines, And yeah, 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:40.679 exactly right, it's a it's a very strange thought. Well, 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:42.880 the last thing I want to touch on I mentioned 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:45.200 it earlier at the very top of the show, the 1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:49.479 idea of concepts. As far as we can tell, there 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:53.800 are no examples of real world versions of that. There's 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:58.880 a company called Megalou, and Megalou has everything from super 1:10:58.960 --> 1:11:03.439 yachts to super yacht submersibles, so essentially the super yocht 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:08.839 version of a submarine to even a semi submerged island 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:13.360 artificial island that you could have to launch all your 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:19.320 stuff off of for presumably a truly magnificent amount of money. 1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:24.160 One of the super yachts that they have the M seven, 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:26.320 which I think is the largest one they're they're super 1:11:26.360 --> 1:11:30.120 yachts range. The designs range from seventy two ms to 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.880 two hundred eighty three meters in links. All right, I'm 1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:34.800 gonna give that feet if you don't mind, sure al right. 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:37.439 It goes from two hundred and thirty six ft long 1:11:37.600 --> 1:11:41.040 at the smallest up to nine hundred and thirty feet 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:45.240 long at the long nine hundred thirty feet long. This 1:11:45.320 --> 1:11:48.839 is a submarine design. We're talking about I stressed design 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:51.560 because there are like lots of c g I renderings 1:11:51.560 --> 1:11:54.320 of this, but as far as I can tell, none 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:57.479 have ever been built. Uh. The M seven has been 1:11:57.600 --> 1:12:01.439 estimated to costs that around two point three billion dollars 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:03.200 with a B. And these are the ones that you 1:12:03.200 --> 1:12:05.559 can configure as as a couple of different things, right, 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.000 So the configurations are you can you can configure it 1:12:09.040 --> 1:12:12.280 as a restaurant and bar for between twenty four and 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:16.080 thirty six guests. You can configure it as a conference 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:17.960 or a business layout, so you know, if you want 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:20.960 to hold your your your meetings under the sea, have 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:24.320 at it. And you can also convert I guess I 1:12:24.320 --> 1:12:27.679 have it have it laid out as a private submersible yacht, 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:30.080 so you can you can cruise the world in your 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:33.560 own private submersible yet under the under the surface of 1:12:33.560 --> 1:12:36.360 the ocean. No one the wiser your travel in the world. 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:38.840 You have your I mean obviously if you're that wealthy, 1:12:38.920 --> 1:12:42.479 you have your own dedicated crew that's operating everything. You 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:45.719 have to be a big crew to yeah, the The 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:49.719 various layouts can include things like an onboard gym, a spa, 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:54.400 a cinema, a gaming room, a library, an elevator because 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:56.640 this is a big enough vehicle where you actually have 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:00.000 to use an elevator to go up and down, different decks, um, 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:05.000 multiple bars, v I P suites, ridiculous designs. Now, as 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:08.879 we said, there's no images. There are no images anywhere 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:10.880 of any of these actually being built. These are all 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:13.400 things like we can do this for you, you just 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:17.160 have to write us the check. So, uh, it makes 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:19.599 me wonder how a company like that stays in business 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:22.439 because obviously if they had ever built one, there'll be 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:26.479 pictures everywhere. You couldn't get away with not having pictures. 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:28.960 Check out the site. It's it's Miguelou And if you 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:31.240 if you want to do just a Google keyword search, 1:13:31.280 --> 1:13:32.920 you'll find that and you can see all these different 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:35.000 layouts that they have and it's really it's fantastic. It's 1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:37.559 pretty exciting. I first saw it, I thought, oh my gosh, 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:40.320 this ISNA. This is amazing, I've never never seen with 1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:42.479 a hell of hate. And then you realize that, well, 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:45.400 every single one of these is a rendering. Yeah, uh, 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:51.679 migal Lose an Austrian company. Fun fact, Austria is a landlock. Yeah, 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:56.400 that's a little tough for for a sub company. So 1:13:57.479 --> 1:14:00.720 just saying grain Assault, I mean, may just be that 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.200 no one's written the check yet, Like I'm not. I 1:14:03.200 --> 1:14:06.240 don't wish to say that the company itself is just 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:10.040 all smoke and mirrors, right, I'm just saying that I 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:13.840 can't find any evidence of any product ever coming out 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:16.880 of it. But that doesn't mean that it wouldn't. How 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:19.919 does it stay solvent? I have no ideas. Could be underwater, 1:14:20.000 --> 1:14:23.479 paperwear could be so. I mean, there's so much more 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.400 we could talk about. We can all obviously get into 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:28.040 all the technical details, but that would require another episode. 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:31.920 The interesting thing to me is that there are people 1:14:32.120 --> 1:14:37.000 who that are interested enough and wealthy enough to actually 1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:41.200 make this a viable industry, because otherwise these companies wouldn't exist. 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:43.680 Some of them, like Mighelou, obviously seem to exist in 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:46.320 the in the world of ideas where we haven't seen 1:14:46.320 --> 1:14:49.639 any realization of that, but others like the deep flight 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:54.720 company Triton. They make these submarines. These are not theoretical, 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:57.519 they're not hypothetical products. They actually do exist. You can, 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.200 if you have the money, go and purchase them, get 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:03.560 the training, and operate them yourself. Uh. And it's phenomenal 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:06.120 to me again that it's a market big enough to 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:10.760 support these companies, but it works. Yeah. Well, I mentioned those, uh, 1:15:10.840 --> 1:15:14.080 those h and s personal subs earlier. All of those 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:17.040 come with something that they call comprehensive training, so it 1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:18.760 requires a lot of a lot of effort. But if 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:21.200 you want to rent a sub you can get one 1:15:21.240 --> 1:15:24.120 from Norway, Norway right now. They'll ship it anywhere in 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:26.240 the world. The cost you have to rent it for 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:29.240 about a month, and that's about seventy five thousand euro 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:32.920 I don't know, I didn't do the conversion. About a 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:35.719 hundred thousand dollars a month, so it's expensive. But again 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:38.479 it's a place called you Boat Works w r X 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:40.160 and they will ship it anywhere in the world. These 1:15:40.200 --> 1:15:43.439 are typically more like um um, you know, discovery submarines 1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:46.479 where they you know, they've got arms for special in 1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:49.360 the samples and things like that. So definitely those yeah, well, 1:15:49.400 --> 1:15:52.479 of course your idea, but but you know it's possible 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:54.840 that you can rent one. That's that's the takeaway here 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:57.360 is that you know that the ocean is becoming and 1:15:57.439 --> 1:15:59.439 even the Great Lakes or you know, whatever body water 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:01.479 you're near is be coming more and more accessible to 1:16:01.640 --> 1:16:04.719 everybody because of these companies. And we know that only 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:07.840 a very select few can afford to buy one, but 1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:09.720 sure anybody can you know, run one for the day 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.480 or the afternoon or an hour and get that experience. 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:14.559 And I think that's what you know, all the owners 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:17.040 of these companies are really excited about. Right They're looking 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:21.559 at the recreation vendors out there, the ones that again 1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:24.280 cater to like cruise ships and stuff like that, or 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:28.080 or pleasure centers places where people go to travel to 1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:32.439 have a holiday of vacation. Uh, And I could definitely 1:16:32.479 --> 1:16:35.559 see that being a growing industry as well. It does 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:39.800 give me some pause because anytime you're talking about increased 1:16:39.800 --> 1:16:42.280 activity around the oceans, you have to worry about the 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:44.960 impact you're having on the environment. Most of these are 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.640 at least clean vehicles, and that they're using electricity and 1:16:47.680 --> 1:16:50.920 they're not dumping like harmful materials directly into the ocean, 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:54.360 but there are other you know, obviously, direct interference with 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:57.240 things like coral reefs and stuff would be disastrous. So 1:16:58.040 --> 1:17:00.880 I'm sure that most companies out they're are doing their 1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:04.400 best to avoid that because that's their bread and butter. Right. 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:08.599 Without those environments that are so compelling, there's no reason 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:11.000 for you to go and pay for the experience. So 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.960 it's in their best interest to preserve the environment as 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:16.680 best they can for their own business. The one I 1:17:16.720 --> 1:17:19.320 just mentioned Norway, they ship out a couple of people 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.719 that come with the sub for the full month. Well, 1:17:21.920 --> 1:17:24.120 so you get, you know, a person that's in the 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:28.880 sub with you, you know, controlling it there, and then 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:32.040 there's someone on the surface that they they maintain constant contact. 1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:34.640 That makes sense, Yes, that's that's You've got you know, 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:38.160 specialized especially trained people there with you at all times. 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:42.439 It's the only responsible way to do really important Yeah. So, uh, 1:17:42.479 --> 1:17:44.360 you know, I know what to save up for for 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:48.360 my next birthday. The next birthday better not happen to like. 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:51.000 But I was gonna give you, I was gonna give 1:17:51.000 --> 1:17:53.240 you a gift card to Chili's. But I guess maybe 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.200 I can't do you know, I could go for a 1:17:55.200 --> 1:17:59.599 good appetizer, I will stick with it, right, all right, 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:02.840 Scott's right and checks everybody. That's what we've learned from 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:06.200 this episode towards the bigger goal, you know. Gosh, Scott, Well, 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:07.960 thank you so much for coming on the show again. 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:11.000 I really appreciate you joining us and and chatting about 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:15.360 all things submarine and luxury oriented where we can sit 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:19.040 here and dream of a life that I suspect I 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:21.240 will never get a direct glimpse into. Well, thanks for 1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:25.080 having me again. I always enjoy our our conversations. And guys, 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:28.040 if you haven't listened now that the show has sadly 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:31.559 come to an end after a monumental run, but Car 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:34.160 Stuff is an amazing podcast and all those episodes are 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:35.880 still available for you to listen to. You We have 1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:39.599 a huge archive. It's a it's approaching episodes. I didn't 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:41.840 have an actual actual count, but we were on air 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:45.280 for just over nine years. Yeah, and that's a that's 1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:48.759 a lot of automotive topics. Yeah, so you should definitely 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:50.880 check that off. You haven't heard it before because you guys, 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:53.559 you guys have covered all sorts of things, everything from 1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:59.920 minutia about specific car companies, to general problems that people 1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:04.720 can experience with vehicles and how to work around that. Uh, 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:07.559 and even just the evolution of the industry itself. I mean, 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:10.320 we've seen cars go from something where the average person 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:14.639 with a little bit of hard work and study could 1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:17.200 learn how to work on their own car and tinker 1:19:17.280 --> 1:19:19.599 with it to a world now where cars are becoming 1:19:19.600 --> 1:19:22.160 more and more like a black box, where it's all 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:25.960 locked away from the consumer, and it's getting increasingly difficult 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:29.599 to do even the simplest of car maintenance work on 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.080 a vehicle yourself, if you have a brand new one, 1:19:32.479 --> 1:19:35.200 and that I know. Wait, no, I said, I wasn't 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:37.639 gonna said I wasn't gonna do that to you. Didn't 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:39.080 I that I wasn't gonna get you with the gutch 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:42.000 was No, that's not my fault. That's not my fault. 1:19:42.040 --> 1:19:43.640 I want. I want the days where you can just 1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:45.360 get your vehicle and you can learn how to how 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:47.200 to how to tinker with it yourself. I think those 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:49.599 are I think there's a value to that. That wasn't 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:51.800 at your moment, by the way, Okay, I knew that 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:53.720 was coming. I realized. I realized as I was going 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:56.360 down that path, I'm like, WHOA dangerously close? So we're 1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:58.559 just gonna wrap it up here. You guys, If you 1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:02.280 have any suggestions, question's comments, you've got a request for 1:20:02.280 --> 1:20:05.120 a specific episode topic, or maybe there's someone you would 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.920 like me to have on the show, get in touch 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:09.639 with me because that's that's how I find out about 1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:11.439 those sort of things. You can write to me. 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