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Speaker 1: With technology with tech Stuff from storks dot com. Hey there, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Tech Stuff. I am your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer here at how Stuff Works. And

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Speaker 1: joining me today is Mr Scott. Benjamin Scott, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be here. And Scott, I always like to ask

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Speaker 1: you in so that whenever I'm doing a show that

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Speaker 1: has to do with like vehicles, because of course everyone

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Speaker 1: knows you as like the the incredibly insightful wise expert

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Speaker 1: in all things vehicular, or at least you've got enough

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Speaker 1: of a basis to get the rest of us all

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Speaker 1: buzzing because our heads are just totally stuffed with nonsense.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you do it better than anyone else

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Speaker 1: I know. So I'm I had to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show. Thank you. I promise I am not going

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Speaker 1: to break your heart in this episode. I know it's

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Speaker 1: a change. I was just talking about that with Ramseyr, producer.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm waiting for that gotcha moment. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing that this time. I People who have been listening

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Speaker 1: to Tech Stuff you know that in past episodes I

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Speaker 1: have found ways to have little moments where I I

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Speaker 1: can actually sit across the table and watch Scott's heartbreak

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Speaker 1: right in front of my eyes. It's all in good fun.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I was, I was waiting for it,

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Speaker 1: but I figured, you know, like, well, what's he really

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Speaker 1: going to break my heart about? With this topic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of I would say, I'm I'm not indifferent

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Speaker 1: I'd say that this, this, this whole world is a

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Speaker 1: little outside of our tax bracket. Yeah, I would say

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Speaker 1: far outside of our text. We're talking about personal submarines

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Speaker 1: today now before we jump into the world of personal submarines,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty fascinating and also head scratching. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about not just stuff that you could,

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Speaker 1: in theory go out and buy if you had let's

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Speaker 1: call it a metric crap ton of money, but also

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Speaker 1: some stuff that, as far as we can tell, has

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Speaker 1: yet to actually exist in any real form. Right. I

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Speaker 1: actually mentioned on Twitter earlier today. The day we're recording

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Speaker 1: this is on on January nine, two thousand and eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and I had mentioned that one of the things that's

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Speaker 1: perplexing and frustrating covering this kind of technology is that

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Speaker 1: when you start covering tech at a certain luxury level,

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Speaker 1: you frequently will encounter examples where you see lots of

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Speaker 1: concept art, but you don't see any evidence of anyone

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Speaker 1: actually making anything. Yeah, and we've got a good example

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Speaker 1: So before we go into that, I wanted to give

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Speaker 1: you guys a bit of the history of the development

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Speaker 1: of the submarine, because it's a fascinating one and it's

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Speaker 1: centuries old, and I mostly wanted to do this so

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Speaker 1: that Scott, you and I can have a little discussions

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Speaker 1: about this too. I can tell you some facts. If

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Speaker 1: you have any questions or anything that I happen to

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Speaker 1: just also just hearing about the ingenuity and in some cases,

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Speaker 1: and let them live their definite insanity. I don't know

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Speaker 1: a whole lot about the history of submarines, I'll have

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Speaker 1: to admit. Yeah, so you're gonna be teaching me some

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Speaker 1: the way. Sure, So where would you like to start, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start in the sixteenth century. Yeah, this would

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Speaker 1: be around the time that Shakespeare is writing stuff. Actually

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Speaker 1: way back to fifteen seventy eight when William Bourne, who

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Speaker 1: in book format. He published a book titled Inventions and

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Speaker 1: Devices and include all sorts of ideas, including a boat

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Speaker 1: that he imagined that would be able to go under

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Speaker 1: the water, thus a submarine. Now he knew, as did

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Speaker 1: plenty of people before him, that solid matter will displace

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Speaker 1: an idea that he proposed could work, which involved having

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Speaker 1: a a boat made out of wood that is completely covered. Right,

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Speaker 1: you then cover the wood with special treated leather to

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Speaker 1: And the leather itself would be attached to the boat

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Speaker 1: Said for the whole that goeth through. The mask must

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Speaker 1: quite possible it was drawn by someone else, but dates

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Speaker 1: telling me who it was that that created the first submarine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would have credited this to Leonardo da Vinci. Sure,

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Speaker 1: In sixty five, you have Cornelius Drebble. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Cornelius Drebble is a great name. Not many people named

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Speaker 1: Cornelius right now. Though that's a great name. Strange. Cornelius

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Speaker 1: This Cornelius was the court inventor for James the first

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Speaker 1: whatever they do. Yeah, which would happen right. You breathe

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Speaker 1: And there's other people in there. Yeah, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: the eagles hull with a drill. And there's some conjecture

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00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: about why this is. Some people think that perhaps he

429
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: was even suffering from carbon dioxide poisoning, that he had

430
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: been breathing so heavily and breathing his own air for

431
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: so long that that that made it exacerbated things, made

432
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: him weaker than he otherwise would have been. Sure and

433
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: I think that's the case in all of these we

434
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: talked about so far. When you're under the surface, you're

435
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: you're physically powering the ship, and you're you're you're exercising,

436
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: you're breathing more than you would at rest. Sure, so

437
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: that becomes a factor in all of these. I doubt

438
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: that any people earlier than this and even considered that possibility, right.

439
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: And you know, some of the earlier submarines had things

440
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: like air tubes that would extend up above the surface.

441
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: But obviously if you want something that's going to be sneaky,

442
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You know, hard it would be

443
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: to breathe through a snorkele that it would be let's say,

444
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: even even ten ft long, be very difficult. So I

445
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: don't I doubt the effectiveness of that long for a

446
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: crew of men, right, And so yeah, until you get

447
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: to the point where you have things like carbon dioxide scrubbers,

448
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: which is much much much later, it's just it's it's

449
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: it's a you can just imagine it being a miserable

450
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: experience to the inside one of these. Sure, so they

451
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: think he may have when he exited the ship, he

452
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit delirious. Sure, Okay. Now

453
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: he realized that he wasn't gonna be able to complete

454
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: his mission, so the best thing he could do is

455
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: try and escape. So he gets back into the turtle

456
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: and starts to move away, and the British see that

457
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: there's something flowing in the water, and like, what the

458
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: heck is that, Let's send some roboats out there to

459
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: check it out. So some British sailors get into rowboats

460
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: and you know, they've got guns and stuff. Turtles not

461
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: really gonna be able to withstand too much punishment. So

462
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: what Lee does is he's pretty smart. He he lets

463
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: loose the mind so that it's a distraction. It doesn't

464
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: blow up, but it does create another thing for everyone

465
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: to go check out. While he continues to try and scaaddle.

466
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: He manages to get a safe distance away and escapes.

467
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: He does not know the turtle does not collapse. He

468
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: managed to get away. It does not mark a successful

469
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: attempt to attack an enemy ship, but it is the

470
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: first time in recorded history where we have someone using

471
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: a submarine to try to attack annoy. Yes. Now, in

472
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: the sevent nineties, a guy comes up with his own

473
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: idea for submarines and things that would be a great

474
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: weapon in war. This guy would later on become incredibly

475
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: famous for a related technology. And that guy is Robert Fulton.

476
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: And if the name sounds familiar, it's because you probably

477
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: are like a fan of things like like Mark Twain,

478
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: because Fulton was the guy who made the steamship really famous.

479
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: So late seventeen hundreds, you know, it's almost the almost

480
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: the turn of the century. He comes up with this

481
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: idea for submarines and he at the time not real

482
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: crazy about the British Navy, not a big fan. He

483
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: goes over to France, meets a meets a guy named Bony.

484
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: Nappy Bony Napoleon Bonaparte is friends. That's funny, so Nappy

485
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Bony he says to him, Hey, buddy, uh short stuff,

486
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: just kidding. It really wasn't. But he said, hey, buddy,

487
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: I got this idea. This if you if you make

488
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: this this underwater boat, not only will you be incredibly

489
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: effective against enemy ships, but ultimately you'll be so effective

490
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: that no one will ever dare use their navy against you,

491
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: because you'll just decimate that name. In fact, we'll eventually

492
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: get to a point. And I can't believe that Robert

493
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: Fulton was arguing this, but it's so funny that history

494
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: repeats itself. We'll get to a point where everyone will

495
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: build these underwater ships, and then no one will ever

496
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: declare war on anyone else, because if you were, you

497
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: would be reigning down destruction on yourself. He was arguing

498
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: about mutually assured destruction via submarine battle. Yeah, and then

499
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: flash forward a couple hundred years and you've got the

500
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: whole basis of the Cold War. Right, was really talking

501
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: up the submarine capabilities here well, and he really believed it.

502
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he was sure that he could do this,

503
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: and in fact, he created some pretty innovative features in

504
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: his design. He created some fins, some stabilization fins that

505
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: also would allow for controlled diving so that you'd be

506
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: able to steer while diving, which was brand new before

507
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: it either would start sinking or would start surfacing. And

508
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: that was it. But his design got a little more

509
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: sophisticated in that. So are we talking like a nuclear warheads?

510
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: You know, like like nuclear tipped ballistic missiles and things

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: like that. Now we're talking still like clockwork mine. I

512
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: guess I jumped ahead a little bit. Yeah, still a

513
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: little he did have. He did add a periscope. He's

514
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: the first guy to add a periscope to a submarine.

515
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cool. Yeah. Now, periscopes have been around

516
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: for a while, but they have been used on land.

517
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: They had not been used on submersibles. So if you

518
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: happen to, let's say I want to attend the town parade,

519
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: but perhaps you are on the shorter side, you could

520
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: get a periscope and see over the crowd. Right. It's

521
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: just a series of mirrors and lenses, is all. It

522
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: is perfect use of one. Yeah, And so he came

523
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: up with the idea of actually incorporating that in the

524
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: design of submarines, so that you could peek up above

525
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: the surface of the water without completely coming up right

526
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: giving it away. Yeah, I mean, the whole point of

527
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: this was to try and create a secret stealth vehicle.

528
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: He gave his prototype. He actually built one of these,

529
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: and he gave his prototype an awesome name that would

530
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: be used for other summary, the nautilus. Oh yeah, a

531
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: great name for a submarine. But the French looked at

532
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: it and they said, here's the problem. Because at this

533
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: point it's still manpowered. It's too slow it's too cumbersome.

534
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: It's not a good vehicle for war because by the

535
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: time we actually deploy one and get toward a ship,

536
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: you're moving so slowly that if you are detected, there's

537
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: really nothing else you can You can't really take a

538
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: base of maneuvers. You're not gonna be able to outrun anybody.

539
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Um It to us is too much expense, not enough

540
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: reward for that expense. So Fulton's heartbroken. He's tried to

541
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: push this on the French because of his hatred of

542
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: the British Navy. So then he does the only thing

543
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: and he smart businessman does. He goes to England and

544
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: he says to the English government, Hey, you know, the

545
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: French we're thinking about this submersible thing. But I've got

546
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: the idea, I got the plans right here, buddy. I

547
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: can give it to you today for half true capitalist

548
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: right there, right. So he comes up to them and uh,

549
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Prime Minister William Pitt looks in and says, this is

550
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: really interesting, but I would much prefer to hire you

551
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: to create what we're called torpedoes. But they were not

552
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: the kind of torpedoes we think of today. They were

553
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 1: still essentially clockwork mines. His idea was to create a

554
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: raft that would have a mine mounted on the underside

555
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: of the raft. You would have a sailor paddle a

556
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: raft that has a lower profile than most boats out

557
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: to a ship attached the mind to an enemy ship,

558
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: paddle away and then eventually the timer would go off

559
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and the mind would explode. Uh. And that he got

560
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: paid for, but no one want the nautilus. Eventually it

561
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: would get junked. And then he would come back to

562
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: the United States and get into steamships in a big way.

563
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: So his story ended. Uh. You know, he didn't end

564
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: in defeat. He did plenty well for himself and until

565
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: he Uh. In a semi related view, we talked about steamboats,

566
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: like paddle boat steamboats. Yeah in Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, you

567
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: know what, there's still there's still examples of those around.

568
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: People still jump on those for riverboat cruises down the

569
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: down the Mississippi and things like that. It's a it's

570
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: a fun time. People tried using steam engines to power submarines.

571
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a couple of problems with that? You

572
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: can imagine lots of problems with it. Yes, So one

573
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: is that you have to have fire yes, which which

574
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: would take up quite a bit of oxygen, and oxygen

575
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: is at a premium when you're underwater. As it turns out,

576
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: that was the biggest issue. Heat also another one, but

577
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: oxygen being very important, that was that was one. Another

578
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: big problem actually is that steamships use boilers. Right, You've

579
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: got a container filled with water, right, So it turns

580
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: out you've got a container of water inside a vessel

581
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: that itself is in a body of water. Whenever that

582
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: vessel would change in attitude right, starting to point down

583
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: or point up or left or right, the water slashes around.

584
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: This causes more internal momentum, which changes the motion of

585
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: the overall vessel, which meant that for those particular early submarines,

586
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: when you were diving, you were diving at a real

587
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: steep descent, and same thing when you were coming up,

588
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: you were ascending at a very steep angle. So imagine

589
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: those old episodes of Star Trek where the entire crew

590
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: is being is like throwing themselves left and right on

591
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: the bridge, except that's really happening and going forward and

592
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: backward every single time. Oh my gosh, there's no there's

593
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: no walking between um and parts of the vessel. When

594
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: it's ascending or decent. It's more like rolling between the

595
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: You're you're just hanging on and hoping that you don't

596
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: fall to the bottom if you're lucky. Maybe maybe you're

597
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: strapped into something if you're really fortunate. But yes, there

598
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: was a real problem, and that was a problem for

599
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: submarines really leading all the way up to the electrical age.

600
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: There are a couple of other really cool historical ones.

601
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Well that and well one last thing on the steam

602
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: powered ones. Boilers had a propensity to explode sometimes. Yep,

603
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: that was also an issue. Weren't well put together. They

604
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: were also sometimes converted into submarines. One of the ones

605
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: during the Civil War was there are actually a few

606
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: submarines that were built and submersible semi submersibles that were

607
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: built during the Civil War. Here in the United States,

608
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: the Union had one called the Alligator, which is kind

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: of cool. There was a human powered submarine used by

610
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: the Union forces and a sealable hatchway that allowed a

611
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: diver to leave the boat while it was underwater for

612
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: the purposes of attaching a mind to an enemy ship.

613
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Now that's a cool idea, and it was the first

614
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: time anyone had managed to make one of those. By

615
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: the way, Alligator is a great name for one of

616
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: those because it looks like an alligator on the surface.

617
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: It does. Uh, that particular design was just looking at

618
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty terrifying. But yeah, this idea of having essentially

619
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: like an airlock style a diver's lock was really innovative

620
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: and allowed them to do stuff that other ships could

621
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: not do. They'd have to surface in order for someone

622
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: to get out, right, they couldn't just let them out

623
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: in the underwater. But on the Confederate side of the war,

624
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: you had one of these boilers that got converted into

625
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: a submarine. That was done by a guy named H. L. Huntley,

626
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: and the Confederates were really determined to use this submarine.

627
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: You can tell because on the first two test runs,

628
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: not actual deployments of the Hunley, but the first two

629
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: test runs it sank both times. The first time it

630
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: killed five crew members. The second time it killed everyone aboard,

631
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: including Hunley himself. Yeah, so all the crew perished. They

632
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: still used it. The Confederates deployed it um and it

633
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: even was used to sink a ship. It actually sank

634
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the USS who Satonic in a successful attack. But the

635
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: Hunley also sank. Uh. Some people think that maybe it

636
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: suffered damage because it it's weapon was essentially a long

637
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: spear tipped with an explosive, so he had to actually

638
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: ram into the side of the enemy show. So the

639
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: inventor then didn't get to see the success of his

640
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: own invention, right, he had already drowned in a trial,

641
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: and then as the Hunley was sailing away from the

642
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: housatanic Uh, it sank, either because it suffered damage from

643
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: that explosion, or there's also the possibility that a nearby

644
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: ship that was rushing to the aid of the Union

645
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: vessel that was struck the wake that it was creating

646
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: was enough to slash over and open hatch on the

647
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Hunley and thus flooded. You know what, I just hearing

648
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the story, it seems like the explosive on a stick

649
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: might be the might be the problem. Probably probably problem

650
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: number one you're gonna get I mean, you don't have

651
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot of control, you know, the longer that

652
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: stick gets, really so, so I'm assuming that it was

653
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: a fairly short stick, and probably they did sustain some damage.

654
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, I mean, and like I said, it

655
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: was the fact that they had already lost a crew

656
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: plus five crew all but five crew members two in trials.

657
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: We're talking like two essentially two full cruise really man. Yeah,

658
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: and yet they were determined to try and get this

659
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: to Yeah. I guess so. The first and then none

660
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: of those, by the way, we're mechanical. Those were all

661
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: human powered submarines. The first mechanical submarine didn't launch until

662
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty three in France, called Le plongeur y because

663
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: it takes the plant. Yeah, and it used compressed air.

664
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: It also had that same problem I was talking about

665
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: with the stability issues with with the steam powered ones,

666
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: and that it would do those very steep dives and

667
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: ascensions back up to the surface, to the point where

668
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: no one thought of it as practical. It was just

669
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: two It was too unwieldy, too uncontrollable, whenever you wanted

670
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: to dive or surface. Man, that's something I don't want

671
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: to hear when I get into a submarine, is it's

672
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: it's uncontrollable. Yeah, not not the best adjective. It doesn't.

673
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence as

674
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: they're stealing that hatch. That's like, that's like hearing it's

675
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: almost water tight, and most of them were almost water sure. Yeah,

676
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: so we're getting up to the end of my my

677
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: history lesson here. In the eighteen eighties, that's when the

678
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: battery technology was starting to get to the point where

679
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: you were beginning to see people put in electric motors

680
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: and experiment with that for submarines, which turned out to

681
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: be fantastic because you no longer needed manpower to move

682
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the parts. You didn't have to worry about steam, you

683
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about a fire, you didn't have

684
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: to worry about that slashing that was creating stability issues.

685
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: And that's really where the technology for submarines began to

686
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: take off, and people began to refine things like the

687
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: design of the submarine, the various instrumentation you would need

688
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: on a submarine to be able to navigate effectively underwater,

689
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: particularly once you start getting to depths where you can

690
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: no longer have any sort of transparent window. You have

691
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: to You're you're sailing by instrumentation alone. So clearly you

692
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: have to have extremely precise maps and extremely precise instruments.

693
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: And we're talking, Yeah, it's not exactly as precise as

694
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: it is today. No, No, It wouldn't be until after

695
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: like World War two era that we started getting really

696
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: really accurate underwater maps. Terrifying after World War Two, and

697
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: you know how extensively they were used in you know

698
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: World War two. Sure, yeah, the U boats, I mean

699
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: that was the Germany was infamous for their U boats.

700
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: They were they were really inspired terror on the seat,

701
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: so they were feared by all. Yeah, yeah, and so

702
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, but it was not it still wasn't an

703
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: era where you really knew everything that you were going

704
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: to encounter. And of course you can't see anything down there,

705
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: so you're you're lying completely upon the records that have

706
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: been generated over time and you know, keeping an eye

707
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: on a watch to make sure, you know, okay, well,

708
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: in five seconds, we need to have a twenty degree

709
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: turned to port. Oh my gosh, I think think of

710
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: what a what a map of the ocean floor might

711
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: look like in eighteen sixty. I mean you're going by

712
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: that here they're be squid essentially. Yeah, So that gives

713
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: us our our background. And now it's finally time for

714
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: us to talk about personal submarines. We're gonna skip ahead

715
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: over all the different you know, the different evolutions of

716
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: the battery powered and the diesel power the nuclear powered submarines,

717
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna go straight to pleasure craft, essentially, is what

718
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: it comes down to. And in my research, I essentially

719
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that that these personal submarines are

720
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: meant for one of three potential markets. Market Number one

721
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: is for perhaps organizations dedicated to studying the ocean, and

722
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: they have a massed enough money to get some of

723
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: these smaller submarines to allow for more maneuverability to study

724
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: specific biomes under the sea. But a lot of them

725
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: tend to be a little more um luxury bay faced

726
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: them what you would typically think of for a research

727
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: instat sure. Number two tourism, so to our companies, like

728
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: you might go around on a cruise and you see

729
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: on the excursions take a submarine ride on such and such.

730
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: I can see that happening too, especially for some of

731
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: the higher end ones, where you're going to a company

732
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: that has invested money into buying one of these and

733
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: then they make it back by selling admission to take

734
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: rides on a vacation location which is going to have

735
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: crystal clear waters and lots of wildlife. Th A're going

736
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: to like st Thomas or something, and you want to

737
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: be able to see the ocean. Third is fill these

738
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: stink and rich billionaires who just want the adventure all

739
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: about adventure. Yeah, I have a feeling that's and if

740
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: you're looking at the marketing for most of these that

741
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: seems to be who they're targeting, which you imagine has

742
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: got to be a fairly small market. But it's a market.

743
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, they sell plenty of cars that

744
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: are these ultra high luxury you know, extremely um expensive

745
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: toys for the very wealthy, and they sell a lot

746
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: of them every year. So there's there is a market

747
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it amazes me that. Well it's because

748
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: again we're not in that tax bracket and so it's

749
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: hard for me to imagine a life where I could

750
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: uh one, where I could even afford one, and to

751
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: where not only could I afford one, but I could

752
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: buy it. And still you know, eat um because right

753
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: now we're talking about vehicles that if I were to

754
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: save up over the course of twenty years, I might

755
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: be able to buy one. But that's if I didn't

756
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: spend money on anything else, right, So saving every single

757
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: penny make and nothing else right, right, Like just I've

758
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: become an air terry and I'm just a breath area.

759
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: That's when I'm just breathing air and taking them all

760
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: my nutrients, which doesn't work. But it's very very expensive

761
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: to get into this game, isn't it. Yeah? And I

762
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: was looking around. I came across an organization called p

763
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: subs p subs dot org, and they actually have some

764
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: interesting information. First of all, uh, here is a definition

765
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: for personal submarines that I pulled from the sites. Personal

766
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: submarines are those submarines which are owned by some person

767
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: as a personal property and not owned by a government

768
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: or any public organization. They're usually used for recreational underwater

769
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: experience exploration, or sometimes for scientific research. They're usually small

770
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: size and sometimes are called many submarines. Their capacity ranges

771
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: from one person to twenty five or more persons. At

772
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: that point, I don't think I can call it really small. Uh.

773
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Usually five to nine seater submarines are used for research purpose,

774
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: and submarines with higher capacity are used for tourism purposes.

775
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: In nineteen the Personal Submersibles Organization or peace UBS was founded. Now,

776
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: this started as a group of enthusiasts who were talking

777
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: about boats on a list server, the old list servers

778
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: of the real pre web days or early web days.

779
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: So they would go to a list server called wreck

780
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: dot Boats dot Building r EC, wreck like Recreation, so

781
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: this people who build boats for fun, you know, things

782
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: that they're building pleasure craft. Well, there were about four

783
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: or five people on that list who wanted to talk

784
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: about the possibility of a personal submarine, but that really

785
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: didn't fit with the overall conversation that was going on

786
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: in the group, so they took it offline. Well, they

787
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: kept it online, but they took it off the list

788
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: and they just started chatting through email. They just kind

789
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: of had a group email going where they were talking

790
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: about their interests. Eventually they decided to create their own

791
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: list server. In they created an archive of it, and

792
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: by October they secured the domain peace subs dot org.

793
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: And uh, as it stands, if you go to that

794
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: today p subs dot org, you can find tons of

795
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: information about personal submarines and they're deep discussions about things

796
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: and they have very important points to make about things

797
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: like safety and reliability and how useful is that? How

798
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: user friendly are some of these because as you can

799
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: imagine Scott piloting one of these things underwater is not

800
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: necessarily the most intuitive thing, especially when you get into

801
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: more complicated environments like you're talking about reefs and things

802
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: of that nature. And um, uh, I'm sure you could

803
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: imagine that these are not vehicles that necessarily say stop

804
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: on a dime. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not as

805
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: intuitive as it would be to drive a car or

806
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: something in that same Uh. You know, you're not driving

807
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: up to the edge of a cliff and stopping. You're

808
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: also having to deal with with with currents, Yeah, exactly right,

809
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: and uh, and just a host of other things that

810
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: you're not even thinking about that you know, up down

811
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: motion versus just you know, left right back forward. You've

812
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: also got you know, another access to com you know,

813
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: to be concerned with. And and not all of these,

814
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: not all of them we're gonna talk about have those

815
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: really really simple controls. But they're getting there. Some of

816
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: the newer ones are very user friendly, and their goal

817
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: is to make them easy enough for anybody to drive. Yeah,

818
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: to make it so intuitive that just with a simple

819
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: training session you can get to a point where you're

820
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: comfortable enough piloting around uh an open ocean environment, for example,

821
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: or a lake environment in some cases, but it hasn't

822
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: always been that way. No, No, And and you know

823
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: it took a lot of work from a lot of

824
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: people to get up to that point. Um. I'm sure

825
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: when you were looking through all this you came across

826
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: the name Graham Hawks. Yes, so Graham Hawks was He

827
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: is a marine engineer who was born in London nineteen

828
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: and uh. He was famous for lots of stuff. I mean,

829
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: he's built pretty much in the nine ninies, all of

830
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the small submersibles were based off of his designs. And

831
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: he set a world record in two thousand seven for

832
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: the deepest solo dive. That was when he went down

833
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: around almost three thousand feet UM in a solo submarine.

834
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: And he held that record for a long time until

835
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: a certain Hollywood director smashed it. Yeah, but he was

836
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: in the deep rover. And as it turns out, like

837
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: a lot of the personal submarines that are out there

838
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: now are are still they're they're his designs. Like if

839
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: you see any of the deep flight stuff, most of

840
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the deep flight stuff comes directly from his design. Now,

841
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: that's what I'm familiar with him and is in the

842
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: deep flight in particular, in the is it. What's it

843
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: called the Dragon? I think it's the one two person submersible.

844
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Looks an awful lot like, as he describes it, like

845
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: a Formula one car does that goes underwater? Yeah, very cool.

846
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: And he describes it as as almost like a quad

847
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: copter that you're flying underwater, if you want to put

848
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah. It's got two vertically aligned rotors

849
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: that are on either side of the chassis where you

850
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: would be sitting, and those allow you to have that

851
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: hovering ability at a certain depth, right, Like you could

852
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: actually set how deep you want to go up to,

853
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: up to the vehicle's limit, Like you don't have unlimited diving.

854
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: It can only go so far. It goes down to

855
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: about just shy a four hundred feet. You know what's

856
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: funny is, as we're talking about this now and you

857
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: just mentioned that somebody had shattered his record, I hadn't

858
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: been familiar with his record up and up until this point,

859
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: but something that he said in one of the videos

860
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: that I watched in preparation for today, it's telling. I

861
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: guess he said, you know, it used to be all

862
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: about we wanted to go deeper, deeper, deeper. That was

863
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: one of the things he said, you know, that was

864
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: the point ahead of time, and he said, now now

865
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: we've we've kind of shifted to a different mindset. It's

866
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: now that we want to make the ocean more accessible

867
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: to everybody we wanted to be. Um is something that

868
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: is a little more include that. You know, anybody can

869
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: spend just a few bucks to rent a sub and

870
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: go out and enjoy what we've been enjoying all along.

871
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: But it has cost us millions of dollars. You can

872
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: you can now just spend a few dollars and go

873
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: out and you know, kind of get that experience, even

874
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: if it's for one day. But we're not talking about

875
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, and I'm getting us a little

876
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: bit off track. I'm sorry, but the depth things, the

877
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: depth thing really got to me. But you were saying that,

878
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, most of them are kind of limited to

879
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: just ballparkable. We'll guess it's like feet. Yeah, that's that's

880
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: the majority of the personal subs that I looked up.

881
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: Is that's your maximum death if you if you're looking

882
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: at like the super expensive ones, the ones that are

883
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars. Uh, some of the ones

884
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: that U s submarines slash Titan do are tritting, I'm sorry.

885
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Triton do are are rated to go much deeper, but

886
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: those are the ones that are incredibly expensive. Did you

887
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: ever see the Abyss, the movie The Abyss? Yes, you

888
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: know those those sort of orb shaped submersible as they use.

889
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: Almost all of the Triton ones look like and there

890
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: are several of those that are rated to go U

891
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: really really deep. Um, but they you know, they don't

892
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: look they're not sexy like the deep Flight ones. The

893
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: deep flight ones. You look at that and you're like, oh,

894
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: that looks like it looks like a sports vehicle. Well,

895
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: there's a good reason for all this too, and that's

896
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: because the people that are going to be buying something

897
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: like this, I mean, it's all about seeing what's down there, right,

898
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: And when you get to a certain depth in anybody

899
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: of water, there's going to be a point where sunlight

900
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: doesn't penetrate anymore. It's it's black. So if let's say,

901
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: for instance, you know the one video that I watched

902
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: from Deep Flight was shot in Lake Tahoe, and Lake

903
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: Tahoe very crystal clear blue water, right, but about four

904
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: feet down, it's pointless to go any deeper than that

905
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: in a submarine. That's meant just for observation. If you're

906
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: going down to you know, take samples, that's something different.

907
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: You know, you don't need to be able to see

908
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: in order to do that. You have external lights and

909
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: you can you can check out what's there. But if

910
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: you're going down there just simply for the beauty of

911
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: the lake and to really experience it into you know,

912
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: at the wow factor, I guess it's pointless to go

913
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: below about four feet in that lake with a passenger

914
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: who's just more of a sightseer. And and that's what

915
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: this type of craft is really for, so you know,

916
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: they they've built it. That's a that's a test depth,

917
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: I guess is that the depth there's you know, kind

918
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: of mentioned something right now too what we're talking about this.

919
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: There are three types of depth that will come up

920
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: when you talk about submersibles, and the first one is

921
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: test depth, or if you're reading about them, you'll you'll

922
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: come across these. Test depth is the maximum depth that

923
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: that a sub can go in normal operation. That's what

924
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: that you know that they're saying like, probably shouldn't take

925
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: a blow about three and thirty feet you want to

926
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: stay ap of that, of course. Uh, there's design depth,

927
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: and designed depth is a little bit different, but that's

928
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: the depth of design engineers think that the sub can

929
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: go and still be able to return to the surface safely,

930
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, without any kind of crushing, without any collapse

931
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: of any of the structure of the of the sub

932
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: because of the pressure. Uh. And then there is crushed depth. Now,

933
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: crushed depth, that's something that you want to stay away from,

934
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: of course. Unfortunately, that's the depth that happened that a

935
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: lot of subs achieve when they they're out of control

936
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: and they just simply dropped to the bottom. Now there's

937
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: a there's a crush depth. Then what happens is that

938
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: there's a rupture or a tear in the body. It's

939
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: it's crushed by the pressure, the immense pressure on the outside.

940
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: It just collapses it like a can. And what happens

941
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: is that the pressure from the outside becomes instantly the

942
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: same pressure on the inside and just rips everything apart.

943
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: So implosure. Yeah. So if you hear of a sub

944
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: that has dropped to the bottom of the ocean, there's

945
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: a good chance that it has achieved crushed depth. And

946
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: if it has. There's there's really no saving that crew

947
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: or sub or you know, any of that. But there's

948
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: a chance, there's a chance, there's a slight chance that

949
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: you can come back from crush depth. You can get

950
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: to a point where a sub will have exterior damage.

951
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: You know that it does begin to collapse, and if

952
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: it's recovered quickly enough, they can they can make it

953
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: back to the surface. So you can get to what

954
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: they do call crushed depth and then and still make it.

955
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: But it's uh actually they say that, you know, it's

956
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: it's probably more common that you might think, because they

957
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: realize something's wrong. You know, the spring a leak, there's

958
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: there's some collapsing going on. You hear you hear groaning

959
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: in the submarine that is beyond what you normally hear. Yeah,

960
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: you know, I heard a tail and this is just

961
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: something that bread somewhere. I don't have a you know,

962
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: a source for this because I just didn't write it down,

963
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: but a couple of sailors that were in a submarine

964
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: said that they would tie you know, the the ribs.

965
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: I guess to go around the outside of the shub.

966
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: And this is an older, primitive sub I think there

967
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: were marine sub um sorry, not a marine sub, a

968
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: naval sub and they tie they what they would do

969
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: is they tie a string between the walls I guess,

970
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: at the sub if you want to call it, at

971
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: the rounded walls of the sub on a couple of

972
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: these these these um just hooks that they had up there,

973
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: and they would tie it tight and as the sub

974
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: would descend, it would It was because the interiors being

975
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: pushed in exactly right. So they knew if they were

976
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: going deeper and deeper, there would be more and more

977
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: slack in that line, and as they went and they

978
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: started to rise to the surface that it would become

979
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: tight again. They gets to a point where you're saying, captain,

980
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: we might need to you know, we just just let's

981
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: just go up a couple of feet. So what you

982
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: might not want to do, though, is is is secure

983
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: something like that. Let let's say if it was it

984
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: was it was a wire wire instead of a rope.

985
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: That's something that doesn't have any give. You definitely don't

986
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: want to attach that while you're at depth ascend. It

987
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: just tears. It's going to rip the walls apart. Yeah,

988
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: So that was a clever way, you know, for them

989
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: just kind of wherever in the sub to kind of

990
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: have a semi accurate measure of how deep they are.

991
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Uh. Fortunately, with the pleasure subs

992
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about, that would not really be a factor

993
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: for most of them, because most of them, again are

994
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: like one or two person ones for the for the

995
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: real pleasure. So there's something that are like five or

996
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: seven people. But that then it's like a pilot sitting

997
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: in the front and then a group of people saying

998
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: kind of behind or to the side of the pilot

999
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: and you can kind of look through like an observation

1000
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: window an underwater bus. Yeah, yeah, with a big bubble front.

1001
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: And you know that's the thing is that all of

1002
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: these that we found, uh, sight seeing I guess, or

1003
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: just being able to see everything around you is keyed

1004
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: in this. It's not it's not like a military subwhere

1005
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, again it's instruments and you're down in the

1006
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: depths where it's dark. This is all about being able

1007
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: to connect with the water, the you know, the the um,

1008
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: the aquali, the aquatic life. I guess it's a struggling

1009
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: for words. Yeah, it's all about being able to see,

1010
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, animals like like dolphins and whales and all

1011
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: the varieties of fish. So you definitely want nice large

1012
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: viewable like ports that you can look out. You want

1013
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: and you want a a vehicle that you can operate

1014
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: by sight like you can you can navigate by sight,

1015
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you would still have instrumentation to keep you

1016
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: aware of where your relative position is compared to say,

1017
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: let's be honest, you're super yacht, because chances are that's

1018
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: how you got out to wherever you are anyway, So

1019
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: you've gotta be able, you know, you need to know

1020
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: where you're super yacht is. The most of these have

1021
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: operating uh, like you small operating hours that range between

1022
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: like four and eight hours somewhere around there. Some of

1023
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: them are less than that. So obviously you don't want

1024
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: to go too far away because if you do, then

1025
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of rowing for you to

1026
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: get back to your super yacht. Almost all our electric

1027
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: operation as well, Yeah, yeah, they all all the ones

1028
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: I came across where lithium battery powered. Uh. A lot

1029
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: of them have a specific type of of buoyancy. It's

1030
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: fixed positive buoyancy is what's called yes. That means that

1031
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: when everything is turned off, it is naturally bullyant, so

1032
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: it'll it'll float to the top. So for example, the

1033
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Dragon one you were mentioning earlier, it has those two

1034
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: rotors that are like almost like a drone rotors right

1035
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: that that are vertically aligned. Well, those are what allow

1036
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: you to stay under the water. Along with forward momentum.

1037
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: It's got some of that same design that I mentioned

1038
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: from centuries ago, where moving forward helps drive the nose

1039
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: of your vehicle down a little bit, so it keeps

1040
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: you submerged. But the two rotors definitely maintain that and

1041
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: allow you to have a nice level attitude while you're

1042
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: going down there. Uh, all that turns off, then it's

1043
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: just gonna rise up to the top of the water

1044
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: because it's positively bulliant. Yeah, and control of that is

1045
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: very simple. I mean I said, they're trying to make

1046
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: it as easy as possible for everybody now to use

1047
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: these and uh, you know, the the left hand I

1048
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: believe operates the up down attitude of the of the

1049
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, of the ship, and the the other hand,

1050
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: your right hand would operate a joystick, which would allow

1051
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: you a little further movement left, right, you know, forward, backward,

1052
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: that type of thing. So it's very very simple. And

1053
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: these these particular ones we're talking about, like the Dragon,

1054
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: are design kind of like a fighter jet where you've

1055
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: got the the pilot and passenger. It's front and back

1056
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: type of seating arrangement, seated side by side, which actually

1057
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: kind of think is kind of cool. That's a real

1058
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: cool design. Yeah. They also have one called the super Falcon,

1059
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: which is it looks more like a jet than the Dragon.

1060
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: The Dragon looks kind of like a car, and the

1061
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: super Falcon looks kind of like a jet. It's a

1062
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: little or needle shaped. Um it's it's almost twenty ft long.

1063
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: So they still say it's one of the smaller personal

1064
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: submersibles that can fit on your typical super yacht. And

1065
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking all of these words don't make sense to me.

1066
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Smaller personal submarine and typical super yacht. All of that

1067
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: is like so antithetical to my experience that I'm having

1068
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: difficulty imagining it. By the way, if you're a listener

1069
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: of tech stuff and you have a super yacht and

1070
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: you would like to show me what a super yacht's

1071
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: all about, I'll take you up on it. Um, Because

1072
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: I've never been on one. I've been on cruise ships.

1073
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: That's as close as I've managed to get personally own

1074
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: cruise ships. No, I know, the cruise ships I was

1075
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: on were owned by enormous corporations, including one that has

1076
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: a couple of really popular theme parks around the world. Um.

1077
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, these are these are your basic kind of

1078
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: personal submarine craft. They use electric motors. Uh, they use

1079
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: electric propellers. Um. And you're showing me some more of

1080
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the designs over here. Well, you know, here's the thing.

1081
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: I when we were talking about personal watercraft, I was thinking,

1082
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: where have I seen some good examples of this? And

1083
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, flying many years ago, and I

1084
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: fly all the time. But now they don't. Now they

1085
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: don't have that Skymall magazine thumb through anymore. But when

1086
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: they did have sky Mall, there was a company by

1087
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: the name of and I hope I don't botch this,

1088
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: but it's it's Hammocker Schlimmler, Hamaker, Schlimmer Schlimmer. That's that's

1089
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: a Hammerker Schlimmer. I was called Hsan. Yeah. I decided

1090
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: to check out their website because I knew the company

1091
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: was still around, so I did I did that searched

1092
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: for the word submarine or personal submarine or something like that.

1093
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: They make lots of toys for people who have way

1094
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: more money. Yes, it's a it's a very expensive toy

1095
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: store for adults. Right. And this is a uh, this

1096
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: is a list of the six personal submarine vehicles that

1097
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: they have for sale right now today. Yeah. They range

1098
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: as I'm looking at here from. Uh the low end

1099
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: is nine dollars, yeah, that's right now. The top end,

1100
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the top end is a shocking two point seven million dollars.

1101
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: But you can fit five people, and well, that is

1102
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: a five person submarine, you're right, I mean that's a

1103
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: that's a big one that you were talking about before,

1104
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: with more like a mini bus. I so things you know,

1105
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: like you're you're you're shuttling a group of people. And

1106
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: the one that's ninety dollars is that one that I

1107
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: believe most people have probably seen this already. It's the

1108
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: one that looks like a whale, looks like an orca um.

1109
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: So this one, I've I've watched this one in action.

1110
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: It's got a it's got a gasoline motor. It's like

1111
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: a supercharged engine that you know, you you have to

1112
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: use fuel for and it can only go underwater briefly

1113
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: because gasolene motors also need absolutely right. And there's a

1114
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: maximum depth of somewhere I'm gonna ballpark this. I think

1115
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: it's around five feet because there's a snorkel on top

1116
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: that's disguised as a dorsal fin on this thing. And

1117
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: it does do you know, the the surface breaching where

1118
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: you know you can jump through the water, but and

1119
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: you can go under water. The problem is when you

1120
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: go under water, you have to be going so fast.

1121
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: You have to because you have to you know, have

1122
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: enough drive to push yourself under the water and it's

1123
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: pop back out again exactly that forward momentum. And I'm

1124
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: not saying this isn't really cool, but this isn't one

1125
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: of the subs like we're talking about where you can

1126
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: go under and kind of really get a look around

1127
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: and it's very peaceful and everything. This is more like

1128
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: a jet ski that can take you underwater. Absolutely, but

1129
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: you're you're underwater and you're going twenty five miles per

1130
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: hour when you're submerged, and on the surface you go

1131
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: as fast as fifty miles per hour. So it's fast

1132
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: and and it's it's clever looking, and I agree, it's

1133
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: really it really is cool and it'd be fun to

1134
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: be able to do that jumping motion. But it's not

1135
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: actually one of these, you know, I guess a sight

1136
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: seeing sub like some of the other ones we're talking about.

1137
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: And there's some weird designs here too, and if you

1138
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: if you look, I mean there's the of course, I

1139
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: think most people are familiar with this one. You've we've

1140
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: seen this one recently in the news. A lot um

1141
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: maybe not a lot but the submarine sports cars what

1142
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: they call it. It's two million dollars. It looks like

1143
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: a lotus a lease. And the problem with this one though,

1144
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: is that it's it's all open to the to the water.

1145
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: You're not inside in our krylic you know, sphere or

1146
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: anything like that. Like the rest of them. You have

1147
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: to wear scuba gear. Yeah, this one relies on Scooba gear.

1148
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: It's it's what is called a wet submarine. They have

1149
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: wet submarines and dry submarines, and wet submarine is any submersible.

1150
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: It's really people some people get really picky, they say

1151
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: you should call this submersible, not a submarine. It's a

1152
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: submersible that the cockpit is open, it is exposed to

1153
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: the environment, which means that obviously, if you're gonna be

1154
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: underwater for any extended a period of time rains, you've

1155
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: got to be wearing scuba gear, so you have to

1156
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: have your own personal oxygen supply and probably a mask

1157
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: of some sort, unless you really are comfortable with your

1158
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: eyes stinging like crazy, I guess so. Yeah. But the

1159
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: cool thing about this one, though, I mean, for that

1160
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: two million dollars, you can also just drive that one

1161
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: right out of the lake or the the ocean right

1162
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: and go right on the street. It has a maximum

1163
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: speed on land of seventy five miles per hour, so

1164
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: you can use it as a real car, an electric car,

1165
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: so it's like a super fast one of those super

1166
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: fast amphibious ducks, you know they take people on tours,

1167
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: except this one actually goes under one seventy five land,

1168
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: but underwater you're you're limited to about two knots when

1169
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: you're submerged, so it's not very quick underwater knots a

1170
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: nautical miles, And it's an electric car that only has

1171
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: an eighty mile range when you're on land, so it's

1172
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: it's fairly limited in that. And that's well for an

1173
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: eight you know, I'm sorry, a two million dollar cars.

1174
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: So you're essentially putting it into the trailer of a

1175
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: truck and then you're hauling it to the somewhere near

1176
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: the east side. What I do is I drive it

1177
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: near the beach and then just for the show, you know,

1178
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: you drive it right right onto the boat launch and

1179
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: right in the wall. Think and if you're a real character,

1180
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: you might be like, oh no, I've lost control and

1181
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: you just slowly drive right into the lake or ocean

1182
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. Folks, well, who wouldn't do that at least once? Right,

1183
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: It might be a little hard to understand you because

1184
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: you'll probably have some some like the you know, the rebreather,

1185
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: the scuba rebreather and your own. But the effect will

1186
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: be there, Yeah, the effect would be there. And there's

1187
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: another one that's maybe the most unusual looking one really,

1188
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: and that's this one they call the Amphibious Subsurface Watercraft.

1189
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and this is the one that I probably

1190
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: remember seeing in this magazine for years. It seems like

1191
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: an older design. Uh. This one has two parts to

1192
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: it and it doesn't really go as deep as you

1193
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: might expect either. It's it's the well, the top part

1194
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: floats like and you can you know, have your head

1195
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: up in the upper area there. It's also enclosed and

1196
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: it flows. It floats with that almost like a raft

1197
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: above above the water below. It is kind of this,

1198
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: I guess it would hang down below the water surface,

1199
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a sphere, another arcroic sphere where

1200
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: two people can sit and observe whatever is below you.

1201
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a glass bottom boat, except

1202
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: that it actually has a secondary almost like a secondary

1203
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: vehicle position below the primary one, and that one is

1204
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: under the water, yes, and that has tracks as well.

1205
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: So this is another one you can drive into the

1206
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: water and you know, right onto a trailer if you want.

1207
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Now it's it's not roadworthy. It's not something that you

1208
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: can take on you know, the streets and drive you know,

1209
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: to the ocean or whatever you have to. You have

1210
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: to get this one to the water. But you know,

1211
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: within the case with the other ones, you would have

1212
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: to find a dock or you'd have to find a

1213
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: crane something like that, or launch it from your super Yet,

1214
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: as you said, right, so they're even more you know, difficult,

1215
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: more complex to launch than than would be one of

1216
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: these two that you can drive in to the water.

1217
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: But a man, I mean that Okay, that one we

1218
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: just talked about, that that subsurface warcraft. That's that's three

1219
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, so you're still talking a pretty

1220
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: high entry price for something like this. So you know

1221
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: that Richard Branson he famously purchased a deep flight Merlin submersible,

1222
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: so same company that does the deep Flight Challenger, which

1223
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: was the one that James Cameron took down to the

1224
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: Marianna Trench the deepest dive. He he did two of

1225
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: those two deepest dives. Um he uh. He got that

1226
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: one down there and was uh, you know that that

1227
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: got all the news. But Richard Branson went out had

1228
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: and bought a deep flight Merlin. Slightly different is a

1229
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: wet sub so it's open cockpit um exposed to the ocean.

1230
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: That one only six hundred thousand dollars, so only twice

1231
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: as much as the one you were looking at their

1232
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: um and it was called the Necker Nymph. Yeah. I

1233
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't ask questions and just read this the information. Uh.

1234
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a couple of others before

1235
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: we sign off, because we've we've got there's so many

1236
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: that we can chat about that are ridiculous. There there

1237
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: are two things that we've got to talk about. Thing

1238
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: number one. We started off this conversation early on you

1239
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: talked about how there's a market for this because as

1240
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: as evidence, there's a market for high end, handmade luxury cars.

1241
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: We've talked about those in the past, like things like

1242
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: Bentley's and stuff. Aston Martin made a big announcement last

1243
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: year about how the company was partnering with the personal

1244
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: submarine company Triton to create a new high end luxury

1245
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: personal sub and so all we know is the barement

1246
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: oum that Aston Martin has gotten involved in the design stage.

1247
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: We've seen a picture of the concept, although it's a

1248
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: computer generated image. It's not an actual prototype. Um not yet,

1249
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: not yet. It is more of that floating orb style

1250
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: of submarine. It's less of like the sports car looking

1251
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: type thing. Uh, it's still in the concept stage. We

1252
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: have no idea how much it's gonna cost, but if

1253
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: it's by Aston Martin, I would suspect pretty penny would

1254
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: be in the range. Well, I've seen numbers around, like

1255
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, four million, dollars. That that to me is

1256
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: not at all surprising because you look at just Aston

1257
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: Martin sports cars. Depending on the ones you're looking at,

1258
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: like the the Aston Martin one seventy seven, there are

1259
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 1: only seventy seven of them ever made. These were a supercars,

1260
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: that high end luxury supercars that could have a top

1261
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: speed of like two twenty miles per hour. Those went

1262
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: for one point eight five million dollars apiece, and now

1263
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: there's only seventy six of them. There was a crash

1264
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, or down to seventy six of those.

1265
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: Aston Martin a m dash RB zero zero one price

1266
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: tag of three point nine million dollars. That one does

1267
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: not go on sale until well this year. So Scott,

1268
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've put aside any money. I've

1269
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: already got a down payment, right, yeah, I'll have this

1270
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: paid off in three thousand years. I have, I have

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: a check ready to go. I just have a signed Yeah.

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01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Well, you know, it's not

1273
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: as strange as you might think for Aston Martin to

1274
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: be involved with something like this. A lot of automakers

1275
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: have collaborated with luxury yacht makers to create some incredible

1276
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: super yachts, you know that are powered by Lamborghini or

1277
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: powered by Bugatti, places like that. Well, Aston Martin has

1278
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: done this in the past as well. They have a

1279
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: one thousand, forty horsepower power boat that I think it

1280
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: starts around one point six million, but it's a spectacular

1281
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: looking boat. And it's it's, you know, I guess, a

1282
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: break from the usual for them, you know, to do

1283
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: something like that. It's not something normally do. But they

1284
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: have this new branch at Aston Martin now that I

1285
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a branch a branch is the

1286
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: best way to say it, but a new division maybe.

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: And it's called Aston Martin Consulting so AMC, which I

1288
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: think is a funny name for Aston Martin Salting Big

1289
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: given AMC. You know motor saters, Yeah, well theaters. I

1290
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: was thinking that's funny. I was thinking American motors. Um. So,

1291
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, they have all these side projects and they're

1292
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: doing things like, um, they're creating what furniture they're creating

1293
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: U their designing. Really it's it's it's they're they're pairing

1294
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: up with other businesses that want to uh, you know,

1295
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: get some of their expertise on design engineering, you know,

1296
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: a structural uh um um stability, that kind of thing,

1297
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I'm I'm searching for words here. But

1298
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: they're doing a bunch of really crazy things right now.

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01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: For Aston Martin. You wouldn't tink a typical car company

1300
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: would do something like this. Um. One thing, well, of course,

1301
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: this is one. One thing they've tried. Is this the submarine.

1302
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: Another thing is Aston They're they're getting into building residences.

1303
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: So Aston Martin has building residences in I believe it's

1304
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: in um. I think it's in Miami. Let me take

1305
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: a quick period. It's it's uh. The price is something like,

1306
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: you know, fifty million dollars. So one of these. Yeah,

1307
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: because you're gonna find out that everything was made by hand,

1308
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: not on like an assembly line or anything like that. Yeah,

1309
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: exactly right. It's a but they're there, it would it

1310
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 1: has less of a an Aston Martin uh touched to it.

1311
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: Then you might think, you know, their logo is not everywhere.

1312
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: It's just simply that they're helping with the design of

1313
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: this this ultra luxury condo or you know, or I

1314
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: guess its condos. I guess that would be the way

1315
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: to say it, but um, some of these penthouses are

1316
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: you know between um, you know, up to nineteen thousand

1317
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: square feet. It's one of those types of places really luxury,

1318
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: real luxury apartment really if you want to put it

1319
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: that way, condo um, which I thought was strange. But

1320
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: on the same page they have a link to something

1321
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: called the Porsche Tower, so I guess Porsche is also

1322
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: getting into this, and they've they've done something where they're

1323
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: going to create this building where you're gonna be able

1324
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: to ride in your Porsche car or whatever car you have.

1325
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't they're not gonna you know again, they're just

1326
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: designed by the Porsche Design Group. And you ride in

1327
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: a this is the strangest thing. You I'd in a

1328
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: glass elevator in your car up to your penthouse level suite.

1329
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: So you've got the floor that's right, but everyone it's

1330
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: not just the penthouse level. It's every level. So your

1331
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: garage and home and everything is right there, exactly right,

1332
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: and you're overlooking the ocean. It says it's spectacular. It's

1333
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: a different world, and it really is, you know, And I, um, again,

1334
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: look into those if you want to, But it's aston

1335
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: Martin residences, and then there's also the Porsche Design Tower

1336
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: if you want to want to check into that. But

1337
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: um strange that a car company, traditional car company, if

1338
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: you want to call it, that would would be getting

1339
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: into designing, you know, furniture and submarines, submarines, And yeah,

1340
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: exactly right, it's a it's a very strange thought. Well,

1341
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to touch on I mentioned

1342
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: it earlier at the very top of the show, the

1343
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: idea of concepts. As far as we can tell, there

1344
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: are no examples of real world versions of that. There's

1345
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: a company called Megalou, and Megalou has everything from super

1346
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: yachts to super yacht submersibles, so essentially the super yocht

1347
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: version of a submarine to even a semi submerged island

1348
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: artificial island that you could have to launch all your

1349
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: stuff off of for presumably a truly magnificent amount of money.

1350
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: One of the super yachts that they have the M seven,

1351
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: which I think is the largest one they're they're super

1352
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: yachts range. The designs range from seventy two ms to

1353
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: two hundred eighty three meters in links. All right, I'm

1354
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna give that feet if you don't mind, sure al right.

1355
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: It goes from two hundred and thirty six ft long

1356
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: at the smallest up to nine hundred and thirty feet

1357
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: long at the long nine hundred thirty feet long. This

1358
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 1: is a submarine design. We're talking about I stressed design

1359
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: because there are like lots of c g I renderings

1360
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: of this, but as far as I can tell, none

1361
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: have ever been built. Uh. The M seven has been

1362
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: estimated to costs that around two point three billion dollars

1363
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: with a B. And these are the ones that you

1364
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: can configure as as a couple of different things, right,

1365
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: So the configurations are you can you can configure it

1366
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: as a restaurant and bar for between twenty four and

1367
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: thirty six guests. You can configure it as a conference

1368
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: or a business layout, so you know, if you want

1369
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: to hold your your your meetings under the sea, have

1370
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: at it. And you can also convert I guess I

1371
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: have it have it laid out as a private submersible yacht,

1372
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: so you can you can cruise the world in your

1373
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: own private submersible yet under the under the surface of

1374
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: the ocean. No one the wiser your travel in the world.

1375
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: You have your I mean obviously if you're that wealthy,

1376
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: you have your own dedicated crew that's operating everything. You

1377
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: have to be a big crew to yeah, the The

1378
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: various layouts can include things like an onboard gym, a spa,

1379
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: a cinema, a gaming room, a library, an elevator because

1380
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: this is a big enough vehicle where you actually have

1381
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: to use an elevator to go up and down, different decks, um,

1382
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: multiple bars, v I P suites, ridiculous designs. Now, as

1383
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,879
Speaker 1: we said, there's no images. There are no images anywhere

1384
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: of any of these actually being built. These are all

1385
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: things like we can do this for you, you just

1386
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: have to write us the check. So, uh, it makes

1387
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: me wonder how a company like that stays in business

1388
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: because obviously if they had ever built one, there'll be

1389
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: pictures everywhere. You couldn't get away with not having pictures.

1390
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: Check out the site. It's it's Miguelou And if you

1391
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: if you want to do just a Google keyword search,

1392
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: you'll find that and you can see all these different

1393
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: layouts that they have and it's really it's fantastic. It's

1394
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. I first saw it, I thought, oh my gosh,

1395
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: this ISNA. This is amazing, I've never never seen with

1396
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: a hell of hate. And then you realize that, well,

1397
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: every single one of these is a rendering. Yeah, uh,

1398
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: migal Lose an Austrian company. Fun fact, Austria is a landlock. Yeah,

1399
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: that's a little tough for for a sub company. So

1400
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: just saying grain Assault, I mean, may just be that

1401
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: no one's written the check yet, Like I'm not. I

1402
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: don't wish to say that the company itself is just

1403
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: all smoke and mirrors, right, I'm just saying that I

1404
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: can't find any evidence of any product ever coming out

1405
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: of it. But that doesn't mean that it wouldn't. How

1406
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,919
Speaker 1: does it stay solvent? I have no ideas. Could be underwater,

1407
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: paperwear could be so. I mean, there's so much more

1408
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: we could talk about. We can all obviously get into

1409
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: all the technical details, but that would require another episode.

1410
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me is that there are people

1411
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: who that are interested enough and wealthy enough to actually

1412
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: make this a viable industry, because otherwise these companies wouldn't exist.

1413
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: Some of them, like Mighelou, obviously seem to exist in

1414
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: the in the world of ideas where we haven't seen

1415
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: any realization of that, but others like the deep flight

1416
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: company Triton. They make these submarines. These are not theoretical,

1417
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: they're not hypothetical products. They actually do exist. You can,

1418
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: if you have the money, go and purchase them, get

1419
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: the training, and operate them yourself. Uh. And it's phenomenal

1420
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: to me again that it's a market big enough to

1421
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: support these companies, but it works. Yeah. Well, I mentioned those, uh,

1422
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: those h and s personal subs earlier. All of those

1423
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: come with something that they call comprehensive training, so it

1424
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: requires a lot of a lot of effort. But if

1425
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: you want to rent a sub you can get one

1426
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: from Norway, Norway right now. They'll ship it anywhere in

1427
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: the world. The cost you have to rent it for

1428
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: about a month, and that's about seventy five thousand euro

1429
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't do the conversion. About a

1430
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a month, so it's expensive. But again

1431
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: it's a place called you Boat Works w r X

1432
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: and they will ship it anywhere in the world. These

1433
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: are typically more like um um, you know, discovery submarines

1434
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: where they you know, they've got arms for special in

1435
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: the samples and things like that. So definitely those yeah, well,

1436
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: of course your idea, but but you know it's possible

1437
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: that you can rent one. That's that's the takeaway here

1438
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: is that you know that the ocean is becoming and

1439
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: even the Great Lakes or you know, whatever body water

1440
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: you're near is be coming more and more accessible to

1441
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: everybody because of these companies. And we know that only

1442
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: a very select few can afford to buy one, but

1443
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: sure anybody can you know, run one for the day

1444
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,480
Speaker 1: or the afternoon or an hour and get that experience.

1445
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, all the owners

1446
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: of these companies are really excited about. Right They're looking

1447
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: at the recreation vendors out there, the ones that again

1448
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: cater to like cruise ships and stuff like that, or

1449
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: or pleasure centers places where people go to travel to

1450
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: have a holiday of vacation. Uh, And I could definitely

1451
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: see that being a growing industry as well. It does

1452
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: give me some pause because anytime you're talking about increased

1453
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: activity around the oceans, you have to worry about the

1454
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: impact you're having on the environment. Most of these are

1455
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: at least clean vehicles, and that they're using electricity and

1456
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: they're not dumping like harmful materials directly into the ocean,

1457
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: but there are other you know, obviously, direct interference with

1458
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: things like coral reefs and stuff would be disastrous. So

1459
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure that most companies out they're are doing their

1460
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: best to avoid that because that's their bread and butter. Right.

1461
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: Without those environments that are so compelling, there's no reason

1462
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: for you to go and pay for the experience. So

1463
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: it's in their best interest to preserve the environment as

1464
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: best they can for their own business. The one I

1465
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: just mentioned Norway, they ship out a couple of people

1466
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: that come with the sub for the full month. Well,

1467
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: so you get, you know, a person that's in the

1468
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: sub with you, you know, controlling it there, and then

1469
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: there's someone on the surface that they they maintain constant contact.

1470
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yes, that's that's You've got you know,

1471
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: specialized especially trained people there with you at all times.

1472
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: It's the only responsible way to do really important Yeah. So, uh,

1473
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, I know what to save up for for

1474
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: my next birthday. The next birthday better not happen to like.

1475
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: But I was gonna give you, I was gonna give

1476
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: you a gift card to Chili's. But I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: I can't do you know, I could go for a

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Speaker 1: good appetizer, I will stick with it, right, all right,

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Speaker 1: Scott's right and checks everybody. That's what we've learned from

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Speaker 1: this episode towards the bigger goal, you know. Gosh, Scott, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show again.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you joining us and and chatting about

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Speaker 1: all things submarine and luxury oriented where we can sit

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Speaker 1: here and dream of a life that I suspect I

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Speaker 1: will never get a direct glimpse into. Well, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me again. I always enjoy our our conversations. And guys,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't listened now that the show has sadly

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Speaker 1: come to an end after a monumental run, but Car

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Speaker 1: Stuff is an amazing podcast and all those episodes are

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Speaker 1: still available for you to listen to. You We have

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Speaker 1: a huge archive. It's a it's approaching episodes. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have an actual actual count, but we were on air

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Speaker 1: for just over nine years. Yeah, and that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of automotive topics. Yeah, so you should definitely

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: check that off. You haven't heard it before because you guys,

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Speaker 1: you guys have covered all sorts of things, everything from

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Speaker 1: minutia about specific car companies, to general problems that people

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Speaker 1: can experience with vehicles and how to work around that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and even just the evolution of the industry itself. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've seen cars go from something where the average person

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: with a little bit of hard work and study could

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Speaker 1: learn how to work on their own car and tinker

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Speaker 1: with it to a world now where cars are becoming

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01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: more and more like a black box, where it's all

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: locked away from the consumer, and it's getting increasingly difficult

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: to do even the simplest of car maintenance work on

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: a vehicle yourself, if you have a brand new one,

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Speaker 1: and that I know. Wait, no, I said, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna said I wasn't gonna do that to you. Didn't

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Speaker 1: I that I wasn't gonna get you with the gutch

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Speaker 1: was No, that's not my fault. That's not my fault.

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Speaker 1: I want. I want the days where you can just

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Speaker 1: get your vehicle and you can learn how to how

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Speaker 1: to how to tinker with it yourself. I think those

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Speaker 1: are I think there's a value to that. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: at your moment, by the way, Okay, I knew that

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Speaker 1: was coming. I realized. I realized as I was going

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Speaker 1: down that path, I'm like, WHOA dangerously close? So we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna wrap it up here. You guys, If you

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Speaker 1: have any suggestions, question's comments, you've got a request for

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Speaker 1: a specific episode topic, or maybe there's someone you would

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Speaker 1: with me because that's that's how I find out about

1524
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