1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: Gino looks going to lay it up over the top. 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Cout a man out there. 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 3: Pitterfucker, He's got it touch dood Seyhawks. 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 4: Ertz drops back, Hastime loads up, prows ayj Brown the defense. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Don't you keep your feet him does seyowfs ball presented 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Jen. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 4: Mueller, broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. We're not exactly 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: getting you ready for a game on Sunday, John Boyle, 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: Perhaps we're just getting you ready for the off season 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: and what we might be able to expect in the 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 4: next few weeks from this team. 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, always an interesting time of transition, and you know, 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: some changes that have already taken place, which we'll get to. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's unfortunately we're so close. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Fifth tiebreaker, Jen. 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: I know, only and win team to not make the 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: playoffs this year, first. 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Since twenty Yes of a dubious distinction, isn't it. 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 4: I know? I mean, I do like holding records. I 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: don't like holding that one, and I don't also like 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 4: having no structure to my schedule right now. That really 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: throws me for a loop, and I'm looking for days 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: to just like take off and take naps. Do you 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: think everybody in the building and the entire coaching staff 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: and players are doing the same thing. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: I can't picture Mike doing that, right. 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: I know he said he wants to take some downtime, 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: and you know, as he put it, see his child 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: in the daylight. 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: She wasn't really, but I thought that was funny. 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: I am going to defend him there if anyone's like, oh, 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: he needs to spend more time with this child, like 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: daylight in Seattle, the Heather Kid in December, daylight that 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: is Seattle. 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's actually not going to say that. I don't 40 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: see my kids in daylight. A lot of Yeah, I 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: don't see a lot of things in daylight. 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: Outside of yeah, the practice feels. 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: You know, everyone deserves a little break in the breather. 45 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: But I think also, and we'll get into this more, 46 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: I think they want to take advantage of this time 47 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: and like they got a late start last year, so 48 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: they see this as a chance. 49 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: To well, and that's actually where it was going to 50 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: start the conversation, because, look, you knew going into Sunday's 51 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: game that it was going to feel a little funky. 52 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 4: You knew that the end was happening ten and seven. 53 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 4: It feels good to go out on a high note. 54 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: But I guess if you were looking at a silver 55 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: lining to not making the playoffs, it does give you 56 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: a chance to get started on next season. 57 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 5: Right now, the silver lining of being in the situation 58 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: is in the opportunity that you're presented is you do 59 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 5: have a head start on the rest of the league 60 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: to a certain extent. So this is something we really 61 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: have to make sure we take advantage of. This is 62 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: a position we don't want to be in ever again. 63 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: So hopefully, you know, you make the most of it. 64 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: And now we're kind of springboarding into creating those opportunities. 65 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: Look, ideally you're not starting your off season until February 67 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: every year. That as Mike said, But there is some 68 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: good that can come out of this. Like he got 69 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: hired on January thirty first last year, and even then 70 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: his first party had to be we need to build 71 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: a coaching staff, Like if you. 72 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Recall they did not go to the Combine. 73 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: They did not like take partnering in the draft stuff 74 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: because they were just focused on we got to figure 75 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: out a coaching staff, get to know each other, build 76 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: out what our scheme's going to look like. But now 77 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: you get all of that done, and now you can 78 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: hit the ground running. Of Like, now Mike McDonald's got 79 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: all the extra time to figure out how he wants 80 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: to improve on defense. Obviously he has to find an 81 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, so that's going to be a big priority, 82 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: but just this extra time can be really valuable for 83 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: this team and this coaching staff. 84 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: And just for Mike McDonald in general. It's kind of 85 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: like talking to the rookies who are like, I finally 86 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: get an off season, right, I'm not training for the Combine. 87 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going through all these things. Mike McDonald isn't 88 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: going through rounds of interviews and thinking about kind of 89 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: those next steps. He gets a chance to step away 90 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: and even aside from the evaluation process, just have a normal, 91 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: quote off season for him. That can do a whole 92 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: lot because he has been running and gunning in charge 93 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: and since yeah for sure, I mean since his season 94 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: ended last year. He didn't get a break. 95 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this time last year everything was sort of 96 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: theoretical for him. It's here's how I think this will 97 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: work with the roster I have. Here's how I want 98 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: to tweak the scheme I've run before. And now it's 99 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: like he's had a year to put that into practice, 100 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: to get to know these players, most of whom on 101 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: that side of the ball will be back, and you know, again, 102 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: it's like, this is a really valuable time to hit 103 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: the ground running and feel like you're gonna start twenty 104 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: twenty five feelings so much farther ahead than where you 105 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: were in July of twenty twenty four. 106 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: You know. 107 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: And when you hear Mike McDonald talk about the things 108 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: that he learned or what he did differently and kind 109 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: of how he paired things down. I was going through 110 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: some of my old journals yesterday, which I very rarely do, 111 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: but I got intrigued by my own words, John, Can 112 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: you ever imagine that One of the things I'd written down, though, 113 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 4: is leadership principles are found in books, leadership is learned 114 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: in practice. And that's almost what Mike McDonald was saying 115 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: when he met with the media. And what you were 116 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: just saying, right, you've got an idea of how this 117 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: is going to work. Until you do what, you have 118 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: no idea what becomes the most important thing for your 119 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: team or not. 120 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 5: You know, you come in with a lot of ideas, 121 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 5: and what you find is you really needed more double 122 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: down on the basic principles that you want it to be. 123 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: The team to be founded upon. You realize that pretty 124 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: early understanding this is it's way clear on understanding what 125 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: we need to do day in day out, what it 126 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: feels like, what it looks like as a team, what 127 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: it's going to take to be a championship football team. 128 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: The easiest way is it's kind of theory going in 129 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: of your prior experience. Is before you're kind of running 130 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: the show, and now you are, and now it's now 131 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: it's in practice. So I think as a as a 132 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: as a team and players, of the conversations we had coaches, like, 133 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: just the shared understanding of having gone through the experience 134 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: and understanding of what we're trying to we're trying to 135 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: create is a lot clearer now. 136 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it's that theory versus practice. We heard from 137 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: Mike and players during the year that you know there 138 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: are times in the year that they kind of simplified 139 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: things more they you know, I think a lot of 140 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: times as a new coach and a new play color 141 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: can be like I have all these ideas and we 142 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: know of we know how smart Mike is, but at 143 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: some point you start doing it in games like Okay, 144 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: let's style this back, let's focus on this thing. 145 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: You know. 146 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: Different times a year we heard and like talk about 147 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: focusing on their fastball terms like that, where I just 148 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: think he comes out of this year so much better 149 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 3: of an understanding of you know, how he wants things around, 150 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: both in terms of his defense, but just as an organization, 151 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: and you know, just the little stuff of we can 152 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: schedules occasionally. We saw it in the middle of the year, 153 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: they coming out of the buy they changed the schedule 154 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: players had during the early part of the week. 155 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: So there's just there's so much. 156 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: He carely used to always say this about first year coaches, 157 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: like until you've done it, you just don't know what 158 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: you don't know. 159 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: And now that he's been through it, he knows a 160 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 2: lot more. 161 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: The one thing I want to point out is we 162 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: can talk about tweaking or changing or adjusting things. I 163 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: do feel like their general direction was very clear the 164 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: entire season. Now, maybe the alignment on offense is not 165 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: what Mike McDonald and or John Schneider was looking for, 166 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: but it didn't feel like it was this and then 167 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: this and then this. It wasn't like this popcorn idea thing. 168 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: And I think that's important to point out because if 169 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: you take a look at what's happened around the league 170 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: and the coaches that have been let go and the 171 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: directions that other team are going, I don't know that 172 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: that's been true for every team around the league. This 173 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: is a good foundation, and they keep they kept talking 174 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: about the process and building the foundation. That's what we got. 175 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: That's what ten wins is, that's what steady progress throughout 176 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: the year is. 177 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that was an important distinction. 178 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: And Mike made this point a few times throughout, like 179 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: they have their their principles, their big picture things, like 180 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: they're gonna stick to the important things that he believes 181 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: in about you know, how a football team should, you know, 182 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: in terms of effort, and you know, the phrase he 183 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: loves is like, we want to be a team that's 184 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: hard to play, Like those things aren't negotiable. It's okay 185 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: if we change the practice schedule, if we go harder 186 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: this day and less hard this day, if we you know, 187 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: maybe take a few plays out of playbook, things like that. 188 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: It's a little tinkering, that's one thing, but yeah, you're right, 189 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: the big picture of the principal stuff. 190 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: He knew what he wanted this to look like and 191 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: that vision hasn't changed. 192 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: But he does want things to change on the offensive 193 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: side of the ball. We're broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, 194 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: presented by Sony, an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. 195 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: It is what led to a move early on Monday, 196 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: before the team met, before they had exit interviews, announcing 197 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: that Ryan Grubb was not going to return as the 198 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. We can speculate on why that happened, but 199 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: first let's hear what coach wants in his OC moving forward. 200 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: You know, as we look forward, and I'm sure you 201 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 5: want to ask on what we're looking for the new 202 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 5: coordinator and all that, it's not as specific. It's not 203 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 5: like these just like, hey, hey, I have to have 204 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: a B and C. We want to have an open mind. 205 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: We want to try to find the best bit for 206 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: our football team and the guys, we have on offense 207 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 5: right now. 208 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 209 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: Again, He made this point a few times, both his 210 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: radio interview and then again in his press corps. It 211 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: is like, this wasn't just a lot of people on point, 212 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: Oh they didn't run the ball enough or this or that. 213 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't one specific thing. This was more Mike and 214 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: John together have a vision of how they wanted the 215 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: offense to be, and it just seemed like. 216 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: They weren't in alignment with Ryan Grubb. 217 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: And you can really respect the coach and really like 218 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: his ideas and even think, in the right situation, this 219 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: guy's going to be an awesome coordinator somewhere. But just 220 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: if you don't see the game the same way, if 221 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: his version of one offense should be differs from what 222 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: the head coach wants, sometimes it's better to move on 223 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 3: and change it up. 224 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: Well. I like that distinction, right. You can love the 225 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: offensive game plan, if it does not marry to what 226 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: you are doing on defense, you were always going to 227 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: be disjointed and you just open up too much opportunity 228 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: for opponents to take advantage of that. I also think 229 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: it's worth going back to when Mike McDonald got hired 230 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: and putting a staff together Ryan Grubb being a first 231 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: time play caller in the NFL, Right, there was a 232 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: lot of newness, and you can predict and anticipate and 233 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: you can have all the best plans in the entire world. 234 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: It's like scripting out your first fifteen Right, we got this, 235 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 4: and then you actually find out that once you get 236 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: a little bit further in. As he said, it just 237 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: didn't the line. It just didn't match up for that. 238 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: And I know people are going to look at this, 239 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: and there's two ways to look at it. One you 240 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: can look at it as a failure and the other 241 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: way you can look at it and say, but it 242 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: gave us a starting point and now we know where 243 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: we want to go from there. Because you weren't going 244 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: to hit on everything, you just weren't. It was a 245 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: brand new coaching staff. You had to hire everybody like 246 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: you weren't going to hit on everything. If that's the 247 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: thing you weren't going to hit on, then make that 248 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: call sooner rather than later. And as we've already pointed out, 249 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: you get kind of the pick of whoever you want 250 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: right now because you get a chance to start some 251 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: of those interviews. 252 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're early in the process, and Mike kind of 253 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: laid this out to you, this is a very attractive 254 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: job for an offensive coordinator because you're coming in first 255 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: and foremost it's going to be your offense. It's you know, 256 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: it's cool to be an offensive coordinator under Shanahan McVeigh, 257 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: but they're really running the show, much like Mike is 258 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: with his defense. He's the play caller. If you come 259 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: here on offense, like you're going to have a lot 260 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: of autonomy, you're going to get to make an offense. 261 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: You're going to call the plays, and then just it's 262 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: a good team. You're not coming to somebody that fired 263 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: their coordinator because they won three or four games as 264 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: a ten win team with a lot of really good weapons, a. 265 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: Really good quarterbacks. 266 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: So this should be a job that they can attract 267 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: some really good candidates too well. 268 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: And one of the things that Mike had said as 269 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: he was wrapping up his thoughts for the year is 270 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: part of what he wants to do next year is 271 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: allocate his time just a little bit differently. Right, he 272 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: is in a lot or many of those defensive meetings. 273 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: Offense can benefit from his defensive mind, and I think 274 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: this year rightfully. So he's installing a new defense, he's 275 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: getting used to a new position. I do think next 276 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: year he's going to spend more time with whoever his 277 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is, to make sure that again they are 278 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: in alignment with how you attack schemes, not just personnel, 279 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: which is what we've heard the last couple of weeks. 280 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you see that with almost any 281 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: first year coach. New head coaches, like they're going to 282 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: start with what they special aized in, and over time 283 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: you become a much more broad like overseeing an organization, 284 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: which is what that job becomes. So yeah, I mean 285 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: when he got hired, he talked about he's going to 286 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: call plays, but someday he might hand that off. He 287 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 3: did say, it's price conference, that's not the plan for now, 288 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: But someday he could get to that point where he 289 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: wants to let somebody else call the plays and he'll 290 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: oversee everything. But yeah, you know he'll I bet we'll 291 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: see him, you know, wanting to spend a little more 292 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: time in those offensive meetings or talking with special teams, 293 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: things like that. Once he gets this defense a little 294 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: more like, Okay, this is and we know what we're doing. 295 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: We've had a whole season under our belt and feel 296 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 3: a little more comfortable with it. 297 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 4: And when you talk about it being an attractive team 298 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: in an attractive place to be, you know, part of 299 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: that is the productivity that you got from your rookie 300 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: class this year. I think it was five of eight 301 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 4: we're starting in that finale, and I think I kind 302 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: of included aj Barner in that one because he was 303 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 4: playing such a large role, but Neiamiah Pritchett was also 304 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: active that game. You got a lot of productivity out 305 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: of that rookie class, which points to scouting, It points 306 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: to them fitting into your system, and it's a really 307 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: nice jumping off point for some of those guys. I'm 308 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 4: thinking specifically across the offensive line for next year. 309 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 310 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I know there's gonna be a lot 311 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: of talk about this offensive line going forward. That was 312 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: one of the you know, more inconsistent units at times 313 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: this year, and they a lot of that was injury related. 314 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: They were missing guys, changing guys out. But you do 315 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: have some young guys you want to see developed. I'm 316 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: sure they will also look like any offseason, you're gonna 317 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: look at every. 318 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Way possible to improve. 319 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: So if there's a good veteran they like in free agency, 320 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: if there's even a trade, like the John Shiner is 321 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: gonna look at everything. 322 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: That's how he operates. 323 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: But you also are going to look at Okay, we've 324 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: got two rookies who played some meaningful snaps, including the 325 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: toe Alaumey who started the almost the second half of 326 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: the season. You know you're gonna expect a lot of 327 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: development from those guys. Even Olu he's a third year guy, 328 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: but he didn't play a ton until midway through this year. 329 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: So guys that you know, you you feel like you 330 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: can grow with in addition to whatever you add. 331 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we mentioned this at the end of last season, 332 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: and I think or when the decision was being made 333 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: to move on from Pete Carroll. When you talk about 334 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: tell and evaluation from John Schneider and I just had 335 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: this conversation with somebody the other day, you're not just 336 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: looking at who jumps off the page. He has a process. 337 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: Like I kind of joke about going back and looking 338 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: at my journals. Dun Schneider journals about everything. He journals 339 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: about decisions that he's made with coaches, with players, how 340 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: conversations has gone and he's talked about this a number 341 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: of times. It is not going to be made on 342 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: a whim. The decision will not be made out of emotion. 343 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: He has done this long enough to have a process 344 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: in place that will yield a result separate from however 345 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: or whatever you might be feeling about the situation. 346 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can't. 347 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: You can't be in that job and be too emotionally 348 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: swayed by You. 349 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: Say that, and you know what, there are gms and 350 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: owners in the league who are. 351 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: Okay, you can't be in that job and succeed at 352 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,119 Speaker 3: it for over a decade. 353 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: You're right, You're right. Maybe I cut you off too soon. 354 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Maybe I thought you John hard enough, Clari, That's okay, right. 355 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: We are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony, 356 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. One of those 357 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: big question marks in the off season, and one of 358 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: the kind of thought processes the entire staff is going 359 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: to have to go through, is what happens with Gino Smith. 360 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: He hits all of his incentives in that last game, 361 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: sets franchise mark's personal best. He finishes arguably his best 362 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: season of his career depending on which mark you want 363 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: to use. And now we're waiting to see what happens 364 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: to the QB. 365 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 5: I want Gina to be here. I think he's a 366 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: heck of a player. He like what's the first thing, 367 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: always comes back for like for what's best for the team. 368 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: I feel like Gino is the best for the team 369 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: right now, and so I'll be involved with it. Ultimately, 370 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: it's not my decision. It's a Seahawks decision. So but 371 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: Gena knows how we feel about them, and we love 372 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: them as our starting quarterback for sure. 373 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: And important to know here Gino Smith is under contract 374 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: for next season, so this isn't a you know, pending 375 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: free agent situation. But generally with these higher profile file players, 376 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: when they go into the last years of the deal, 377 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: that's when you start looking at you know, the player 378 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: wants some security of a long term deal, the team 379 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: wants to know what their future is. So that's a 380 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: conversation that will be happening between the two sides and 381 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: we'll see where it shapes up or how it shakes out. 382 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: But clearly here in Mike mcdalland talk really all season long, 383 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: that wasn't just something said at the end of the year. 384 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: They like Geno Smith a lot, so if they can 385 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: figure out a way that that works out for both sides, 386 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: I think getting something done to extend him here would 387 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: be a great move. 388 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 389 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: I think the timing of that will be the thing 390 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: that most people are probably looking at considering kind of 391 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: how that deal is structured. Seattle will be watching games 392 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: from home this weekend, and if you are doing the 393 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: same thing this NFL season, you can feel every play, 394 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: every hit, every moment with the Sony one thousand XM 395 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: five noise canceling head phones, the official headphones of the 396 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks. With premium noise cancelation, you were in the zone, 397 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: no distractions, just pure football. Whether you are in your 398 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: living room or on the go, you will never miss 399 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: a beat with Sony headphones. I don't think Seattle missed 400 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: a beat on the road this season. That was an 401 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: impressive finish. 402 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: That's they've only done that once in franchise history, and 403 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: six of those six in a row to in the 404 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: year after theton You know what that meant. 405 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: A lot of happy flights home. 406 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, in good mood. 407 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't matter how long that flight is. It 408 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 4: feels a whole lot better after a win. Folks, that 409 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: was pretty good. But you were asking Mike about this 410 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: earlier in the week and he pointed out there's kind 411 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: of a flip. 412 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 3: Side, which thing fun that he pointed out because that's 413 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: how every fan would react to if you brought it 414 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: up right. 415 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: But here's actually what the coach had to say about it. 416 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: It's really seamless. 417 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: When we travel, guys can really just focus on football. 418 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: So I think we do it at a first class level. 419 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: And just the focus and keeping the team together. We 420 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: don't want it to it's like the business trip. We 421 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 5: don't really use that language. It's really just say, let's 422 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 5: stay loose, stay focused. It's kind of keep the task 423 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: at hand and go try to win a football game. 424 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: So trying to keep it simple. But yeah, this is 425 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 5: the mentality of the guys operation wise, offensively, you know, 426 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 5: operating on silent cadence. Defensively, it's a little more quiet, 427 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: so it's easier to communicate. And then, honestly, John, listen 428 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: to your question. The first thing to come in to 429 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 5: mind is we got to play better at home. You know, 430 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 5: it's great to be seven to one on the road, 431 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 5: but we got to make this place a nightmare for 432 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: teams to come in and play us and utilize our 433 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: fans in the crowd and the twelve and kind of 434 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: the whole twelve is one mantra. We really got to 435 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: make that come to life when we're at Lumen. So 436 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: that's going to be a major focus for us this offseason. 437 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: First, a side note on that, he said, we don't 438 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: really use the business trip language. I won't out who 439 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: it was, but someone in my department said, does I 440 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: mean I can start wearing sweats on the charter if 441 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: it's not a. 442 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: Business trip, no more addressing up. 443 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's again, that's how I think 444 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: every fan reacts. If you say seven to one on 445 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: the road, Yeah, that's cool, but you're seven. 446 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: And one on the road and you miss the playoffs. Yeah. 447 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: Two other teams won seven road games this year. You 448 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: know who they were, the two number one seeds, Kansas 449 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: City and Detroit. So it's like, you win seven road games, 450 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: you should be you know, yes, not just a playoff team, 451 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: but one of the best teams in the league. And 452 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: that's frustrating, you know, for the team, for the fans 453 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: because like it's It's not like lumen Field is not 454 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: a good home field advantage in terms of crowd noise. 455 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Fans are into it. 456 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: It's just a weird I can't and obviously the team 457 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: can't put their finger on it because they haven't changed 458 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: that yet. But that's going to be a huge focus, 459 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: as Mike said, and figuring out how to really, you know, 460 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: recapture that home field advantage and be a dominant team 461 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: at home. Because to reach the goals that Mike has 462 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: that this team has, you've got to be winning you know, most, 463 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: if not all, your home games. 464 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would also give a shout out to 465 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: the twelves who travel really well to every single one 466 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: of those road trips. Now your fortitude will be tested 467 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: next year, twelves, because we've got a lot the East 468 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: Coast road games next year. 469 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: We go I think six of the games, I could 470 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: six games could be ten amyas on. 471 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: Where they're located. It probably won't all. 472 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: Be, but no, it's I don't We're not that as 473 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: an entirely separate podcast for you. I am not ready 474 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 4: to talk about the. 475 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: Schedule breakdown yet. 476 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm not ready to do that. 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When you do Delta, Official Airline of 487 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 6: the Seattle Seahawks. 488 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: We're having up the final few minutes of the Seahawks 489 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: Insiders podcast, usually the point where I would ask John 490 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: for two days we need to see from the Seahawks 491 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 4: to get a win. Since that is not on the 492 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: table this week, Here's what I'm thinking, John, I would 493 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: like the two biggest takeaways from the season for you, 494 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: and I'm actually going to start and say how fast 495 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: this season went. I've been on the sidelines for sixteen 496 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: years and there's always ebbs and flows of seasons. But 497 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: when you have a coaching chain for the first time 498 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: in a long time, and there's a lot of newness. 499 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: I think I expected it to be more of like 500 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: a grind to figure things out. Whether it was a 501 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: grind for the players, a grind for us, a grind 502 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: through the schedule, I don't. My expectations did not match 503 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: up with what actually happened during the course of the year. 504 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: It went really fast because this team was fun to watch. 505 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: That would be my first takeaway. 506 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my first I think is just general excitement, optimism, 507 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, about the direction this 508 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: team's going. Like I get, yes, making the playoffs would 509 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: have been great, and they wanted to do that that 510 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: you know, the goal was bigger than what they've accomplished. 511 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: But with the growth we saw, you know, especially with 512 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: the defense, and just I think the way players all 513 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: really are buying into what Mike is leading here. I 514 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: just I think if this coaching staff a full off season, 515 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: you know, add some help in the offseason, and I 516 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: think next year is going to be really exciting. 517 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: I think the other thing I would say is there's 518 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: some legit studs on this team. Yeah, Like there are 519 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: some big name players. If you look at where you 520 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: know JSN fig figures into the equation and how he 521 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: finished his season. Leonard Williams needs more recognition that he's 522 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 4: got in than he's gotten than he's got ten a 523 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: long season. Derek Hall comes on strong. Right, There's a 524 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: whole bunch of guys that play big roles. Kenny McIntosh 525 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: finally does what you knew he could do in college, 526 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: and and there's just there's some big time playmakers and 527 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: that's going to make it fun. 528 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 529 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 3: No, I mean there's a long way to go till 530 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: we get to training camp and can start focusing on 531 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: next year. But I think there's going to be a 532 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: lot of cool buzz and optimism around this team once 533 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: we get there. 534 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: After we all take a few naps and take a 535 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: couple of days off, that'd be good. My brain is 536 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: a little bit scrambled. 537 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: You know, diving right into mock draft season. 538 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: I will not be diving into mock drafts. You know what, 539 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be diving into a bag of chips, a 540 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: bottle of wine. I don't know, something like. 541 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Do you have like a good chip wine? 542 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: Parent like a like a flavor of Doritos and a 543 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: nice peanuts. 544 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I I love anything salty and 545 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: I love blue cheese with like a big red so 546 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: like a blue cheese dip with. 547 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: A big cab or something. 548 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, with a big cab. That's a separate podcast altogether. 549 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: Breaking a big tell you what let's do. 550 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: We're just gonna do it right here so you can 551 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: hear us munching on chips and then like slurping wine 552 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: and it'll be great. It'll be real classy. That's what 553 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: that's gonna be. I think probably the next time we 554 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: talk to the peeps is gonna be come bye, drafts, Skeedgy. 555 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 4: There's some stuff coming up in the off season. 556 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: Free agency gets going pop it up. Then. 557 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: That sounds like a lot of work, but yes, I 558 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: am up for it because it is gonna be a 559 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: while until we talk to you. Thanks for listening to 560 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: us all season long. We look forward to the next 561 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: time we're back with you for another episode of the 562 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: Seahawks Insiders podcast.