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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie. To Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson.

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Speaker 1: And hello, it's us. We're here. I'm bent over right

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Speaker 1: now itching my leg.

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Speaker 2: Your strugs the PHNK right now, man, Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Just want everyone to know that Milly came into this

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Speaker 3: recording being like, look everyone, I had to unclip my

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Speaker 3: bra in the back so I could.

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Speaker 2: Bend over and it'ch this leg.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't to take the bra off because it was

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. It was literally like, tactically,

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Speaker 1: it's better to itch this one spot if I take

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Speaker 1: my bra off.

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Speaker 2: Well, what bitch you? What gotcha?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I don't even know what to say because, honestly, like,

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Speaker 1: I come to podcast on a weekly basis talking about

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Speaker 1: animals and creatures that I have no idea, like, I

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Speaker 1: have little to no information on, and it's starting to

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Speaker 1: make me feel like I just like am the stupidest

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Speaker 1: person alive.

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Speaker 3: It's not that you're stupid, it's that there are way

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Speaker 3: too many bugs and animals on this plot.

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Speaker 1: To answer your question, I'm currently in Florida and last week,

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Speaker 1: like a full week ago, I had dinner with some friends.

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Speaker 1: But they had this whole like outdoor dining set up,

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Speaker 1: like sort of near the water, and I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: them in forever. They've been quarantining in Florida, and so

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Speaker 1: we decided to hang out and they made me this

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Speaker 1: incredible dinner, amazing hospitality, and I remember when we sat down,

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Speaker 1: of course, my mind goes to, like, oh, let's put

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Speaker 1: on bugspray, because you just literally have to put on

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Speaker 1: bug spray anytime you walk outside, right, and that's not

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Speaker 1: even just the South. It feels like now everywhere you

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Speaker 1: should do this, like even in California. So anyway, I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there and I am covered in buckspray, and I

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Speaker 1: kind of getting bit. I put on more buckspray, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm were in shorts and a shirt, short sleeved shirt,

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Speaker 1: and then I thought, I'm just making shit up, so

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Speaker 1: let me enjoy the dinner and go home. The next morning,

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Speaker 1: I woke up and I have these red bumps all

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Speaker 1: where I can't even tell you, Like I'm just sort

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Speaker 1: of like, how did something crawl up? Into my jean

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Speaker 1: inner thigh. That's fucked up right? How is this possible?

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Speaker 1: But they didn't look like mosquito bites. They were like

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Speaker 1: not you know how like mosquito bites kind of had

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Speaker 1: that like welt looking thing. Yeah, this was like something else,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what could possibly have bitten me?

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Speaker 1: And that's when basically my friends told me that it

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Speaker 1: was probably a no sum.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is. I'm straight to

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Speaker 3: WebMD and be like, cool, I've got loupis. I'm dead

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Speaker 3: neither did I. So I look up no sum and

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Speaker 3: spelled just like I thought it would be, like no

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Speaker 3: os ee um. Like I was like, surely it's not

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Speaker 3: called that. It's I'm just getting it wrong. I'm just

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Speaker 3: using the Southern way of spelling it. No.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's spelled that. It's called a no sum

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Speaker 1: because you don't see them, right, Oh no. And there

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Speaker 1: is like an actual term for them that's like within

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Speaker 1: the like like a Latin freeze. Yeah yeah, but down

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Speaker 1: here in Florida, they're called a no sum and they're

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Speaker 1: basically sand fleas. I think that's what we were told.

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Speaker 1: By our producer Alexus, who apparently got them in Cuba. Goodbye,

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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, the last week has rivaled

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Speaker 1: the chicken pox in terms of how miserable I felt, Like,

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Speaker 1: what itching my brains out? It's insane?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And are they like are they raised? So they're raised

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Speaker 3: bumps still like even a week later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they're all over the place and they're they're

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Speaker 1: not even really raised. The weirdest part, they're just kind

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Speaker 1: of like it looks like a poc. Honestly, it's just

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Speaker 1: then you itch yourself into like a little scab and

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Speaker 1: then they bleed and then the cycle fucking continues forever.

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Speaker 3: And oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I have a lot of allergy. So

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Speaker 1: I was already armed with like a lot of like

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Speaker 1: a banaderill and a Zertec and I have some prescription

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Speaker 1: like you know, eggs cream or something I can put

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Speaker 1: it on there. I'm already burned through that EXSMA shit.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's over. Like I'm like I don't have anything,

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Speaker 1: to my disposal right now. I straight up went to

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Speaker 1: the drug store bought calumine lotion.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, is this something that just

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Speaker 3: like a calumine lotion could help with or a witch

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Speaker 1: So I haven't used fucking calumine lotion since I was

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Speaker 1: in fourth grade, thank you. When I had the chicken

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Speaker 1: pox and I wasn't even sure what calibine lotion was,

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Speaker 1: I actually googled that because I was like, what is

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Speaker 1: calumine lotion? That's so weird?

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Speaker 2: What is this stuff that they slathered us in as children?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, zinc oxide or something like that. It's like some

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: But I have been covered in calumine lotion and I'm

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Speaker 1: just itching all night long now, just all throughout the night,

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Speaker 1: itching my legs.

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Speaker 2: My mom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is truly like fourth grade shit. My

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Speaker 1: mom who. I'm staying at my parents' house, of course,

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Speaker 1: and my mom comes in, it's like stop itching. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so literally I'm having the fourth grade chicken pox moment.

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Speaker 3: She's monitoring this shit like stop pitching, You're gonna get scars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm truly and it feels crazy because I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, I can't stop pitching. No amount of like

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Speaker 1: anti histamine is helping. You know, I've been trying oatmeal,

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Speaker 1: you know, hydro cortizone, Calami lotion. I built this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I found it at Walmart. I'm just saying that I

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Speaker 1: found it at Walmart. That's not an indictment of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's for chiggers. I don't know if you've heard

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Speaker 1: about chiggers.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard they're vicious.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the term is really strange. But it's

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Speaker 1: chigger medicine and it's called chigger X.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: And it reminds me of blue Star ointment. Do you

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Speaker 2: Like they used.

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Speaker 1: To advertise that at the end of like Sally Jessel,

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Speaker 1: like jocketch ringwormstriasis. Like, no, it looks like that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, and it's very strange. It smells terrible, but

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Speaker 1: like I'm using literally anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, first of all, sugar ex sounds so mildly

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Speaker 3: racist too. I know it's not, but in my head,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, what they saying about that ointment?

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Speaker 2: Who owns that ointment?

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Speaker 1: I can't be on board with the term chigger. I

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Speaker 1: have to say this. I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it right.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, can we call it something else? This

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Speaker 3: Look, if we can come up with no sum, can

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Speaker 3: we come up with bite assim or something like that.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get that's our faith and out sugar.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: But also I feel.

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Speaker 3: Like you're at the point where do we need to

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Speaker 3: like bringing some sage and some crystals. Do we need

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Speaker 3: to some like some alkaline water? Like what do we

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Speaker 3: need to get to woo this shit out? Is there

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Speaker 1: Heyea, I need an herb or something like. This is

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Speaker 1: so so deeply annoying and yeah, itch And according to

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Speaker 1: recording tonight and she was like, oh, I've had them.

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Speaker 1: They're called sandflips. I had them for like three weeks,

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Speaker 1: and I was like screaming, three months. Three months, okay,

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Speaker 1: great sounds good months.

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Speaker 3: Three months, three months and she thought her legs were

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Speaker 3: just gonna be like that forever.

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Speaker 1: Three months Okay. I literally thought she said three weeks,

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Speaker 1: and so now I'm sweating over these bumps. I'm sweating.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do three months. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't be It's only been like eight days a

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Speaker 3: Put it this way, after two months, I'm coming down

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta with like one of those Metropolis body armor suits,

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Speaker 3: met gala, and we's going to cover that shit up.

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Speaker 2: You cannot live that way. You're half You'll be half

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Speaker 2: metal from now on.

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Speaker 3: If that's the case, you cannot live with that for months.

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Speaker 1: Yes, put me in a half sarcophagus. I can't take it.

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Speaker 1: Like it's too weird and itchy, and the bumps look bad,

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Speaker 1: like you know whatever, Like I got skin issues like

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Speaker 1: bummed out about it. I mean, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Bodies are gross. But at the same time, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this looks shitty, like I don't know even for me.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I'm in Florida wearing fucking sweatpants and

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Speaker 1: it's ninety six degrees outside, and I'm like, because I

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Speaker 3: Oh, I absolutely hate it. I mean, I've been getting

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Speaker 3: bit up up here this summer. Yeah, out in these woods,

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Speaker 3: I bet, and my legs look like like my legs

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Speaker 2: And when I get a bug bite or.

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Speaker 3: Something, even if I don't itch it, even if I

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Speaker 2: So my legs just look like super freckled and fucked

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, I don't know what to do

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Speaker 3: because there's bugs fucking everywhere here.

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Speaker 2: There's no amount of I could cover.

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Speaker 3: I could wear a Thermicell necklace and still get bit

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Speaker 3: up the minute I go outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have a lot of ticks up there

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Speaker 1: where you live?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen that family a deer that parties in

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Speaker 3: my goddamn yard.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, there's

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Speaker 1: deer deer ticks? Is that what they're called. Maybe they're

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Speaker 1: called something different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's ticks everywhere, and so I'm always checking for ticks,

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Speaker 3: even if I just go out and get the mail.

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Speaker 3: But my legs look this disgusting, like they just look

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Speaker 3: so horrible. And I got one of these, like I've

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Speaker 3: got this Hamam scrub mit that I usually like mm hmm,

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Speaker 3: and it's like I got my first mom scrub when

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Speaker 3: I went to Montreal for the first time.

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Speaker 2: I stay to this hotel that offered it, and I

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Speaker 3: Then like, we're gonna put you in a room full

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Speaker 1: oky like the best possible experience you know that you

440
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Speaker 1: could have.

441
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Speaker 3: It was cool, it was cool, and I think I

442
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 3: mean the next concert I go to is going to

443
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 3: be the one held at my funeral.

444
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Speaker 2: Let's be real. Do you want to talk about movies?

445
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 3: Uh?

446
00:21:53,720 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I guess here in luck since we have to, Okay,

447
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: you want to talk about this theme this week? Because

448
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a good one. It's a good one,

449
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: it is, And I want to say I was convinced

450
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: that nobody was going to get it. And I remember

451
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: you did bet me that no one would or that

452
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: somebody would or wait, what was the bet?

453
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the bet, but I think it

454
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: was one American dollar.

455
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all I recall was that I was going

456
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: to either not get or get a dollar. But what

457
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: is the theme this week?

458
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: Our theme this week is movies that remind us of home.

459
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Speaker 1: Woooooooo.

460
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: That's why I felt like it would be hard to

461
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 3: get because they're not necessarily about.

462
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Speaker 2: The places we were born.

463
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Speaker 3: They're not necessarily about you know, they're just places we've lived. Yeah,

464
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: and movies that remind us of them, Yeah, because.

465
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Speaker 1: Home can mean so much, as we all know. But

466
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Speaker 1: I think that when we were like, we had talked

467
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Speaker 1: about doing this thing for a while and then finally

468
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: it was like, you know that it's time. It's time

469
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: for us to come home. And I like our choices.

470
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: They're super different, but I also like it for that reason.

471
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Speaker 3: I do too, and I think, I mean, look, I was,

472
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Speaker 3: I'm always on the verge of picking Chud again for

473
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: a movie there like what reminds me of the most

474
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: of home being.

475
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: Gross, uh toilet toilet.

476
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: So I think we did very well with our picks

477
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Speaker 3: considering where it could have gone.

478
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Speaker 1: Agreed. But also I will say, and I don't know,

479
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if this. If this comes up organically,

480
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: so be it. But I think that there are some

481
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: similarities even despite their fast differences, there are some common

482
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Speaker 1: theme or themes.

483
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Speaker 2: So I can think of one.

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely want to hear your thoughts on that

485
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: for sure, because I was thinking about that when I

486
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: was watching both of the movies, that there's one particular

487
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: strain that I think goes through both in a very

488
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Speaker 3: interesting Wait, WI is why we pick these themes to

489
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: begin with? Try to, you know, put these movies together

490
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: in an interesting way.

491
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: But I also think it's it probably did.

492
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if we even discussed this, but I

493
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: think we just kind of organically felt like it was

494
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: time to do this theme because we have both just

495
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: moved home. Yes, yes, and that is something that I'm

496
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: still dealing with on a regular basis. I can tell

497
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: you that there was a moment last week where I think,

498
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: because I've been dealing so much with like the haunted

499
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: house that I live in, that I haven't had time

500
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: to deal with the town. And there was a point

501
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: where I was driving home and Pulp came on the

502
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: playlist and I was driving down the street I used

503
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: to drive down to pick up my friend from high

504
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: school before we would ditch, like we would go I

505
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: pick her up, and then we would just drive to

506
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: friendlies and have breakfast, go back to her house and sleep,

507
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: and then go for like the last two periods of

508
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Speaker 3: the day and our senior year.

509
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Speaker 2: So this song came on.

510
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: On the street that I was on, and it hit

511
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: me like a ton of bricks that like, I live

512
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: in my hometown.

513
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Why it was so vivid.

514
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Because I've been here for months now, but it was

515
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: so vivid in that moment, And so I think that

516
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: that's there's something just happening with both of us where

517
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: I think being back in the places that you know

518
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: we were raised or at least came of age that

519
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: felt right for this theme.

520
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally totally agree and honestly for this Yeah,

521
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: this this week was kind of interesting because, to be

522
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: quite honest with you, like it really hasn't even sunk

523
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: in one hundred percent that I'm back in Georgia, Like

524
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: I kind of even don't remember how I got here,

525
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: like it just happened. And then when I watched the

526
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: movie that I'm going to talk about today, I was like, oh, yeah,

527
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: like now I kind of understand the appeal, like like

528
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: I get it. Like so it was weird. I mean,

529
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that was I watched my

530
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: movie and then all of a sudden everything and clicked

531
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: in a place, but it was. It definitely helped. It

532
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: definitely helped me kind of readjust being back.

533
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: I will say, yeah, well your first, so we can

534
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: get right into it.

535
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Speaker 1: I just want to say for the record that the

536
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: last time I saw this movie before rewatching it like

537
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: the for this episode was with you at the New

538
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Beverly at that fucked up crazy screening that we saw

539
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: with this movie and Semi Tough, and this movie played first,

540
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and I had never actually seen my movie with an

541
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: audience before and I almost cried. I almost cried because

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: it was so fun. I could still to this day

543
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: I hear you laughing and screaming at every amazing part,

544
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Like I was, just like, this is the best screening ever.

545
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Like this is why it's important to watch movies in

546
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: a movie theater with a bunch.

547
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: Of people, right exactly, even if you have to sit

548
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Speaker 3: on their lap.

549
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: It's important.

550
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: So you listen to our last bonus episode, you'll understand

551
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: where that comes from.

552
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: So my movie for the theme of movies now, remind

553
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: us of Home is a movie from nineteen seventy seven.

554
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: It was directed by Hal Needham and it's called Smokey

555
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: and the Bandit.

556
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: At Last a warm, sensitive, touching story about the close

557
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: personal relationship between a man and a woman.

558
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: Between a trucker and his dog.

559
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: Fraight up to them todd of picking you up.

560
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: I got to fred between a fun no Way and

561
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: his son no Week that you could come from my lawn.

562
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: And how they all took to the road one day,

563
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: a quiet little drive in the country.

564
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Speaker 3: I gotta say, just right off the top. I love

565
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: a movie where the songs in the movie explain what's

566
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: going on.

567
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: In the movie a hundred fucking person like I have

568
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: a lot to say. Okay, first of all, let me

569
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: just tell you right now, I have so much to

570
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: say about this movie that it is going to take

571
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: a lot of effort for me to even attempt to

572
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: keep it under the run time of this fucking podcast, because.

573
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 2: I say, go for it.

574
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: And if we give them a super size episode, because

575
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: we have to, that's what I have a dia coke

576
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: on the ready.

577
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I could go at least like

578
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: a couple hours, if not an entire weekend, Okay, Like easily,

579
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: I could lock people into a hotel conference room to

580
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: talk about Smoking in the Bandit, like Jill Klayberg would

581
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: be sweating and crying. That's how much I fucking love

582
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: this movie.

583
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: That's how we're gonna see this on our next screening

584
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: is us locking people into a conference room and being like,

585
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: we're playing Smoking in the Bandit for sixty hour straight,

586
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: bye bye.

587
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: So okay, obviously it just brought up semi tough if

588
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: you haven't heard that episode a couple episodes ago, because

589
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: guess what, folks, we have another Burt Reynolds movie on

590
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: the podcast, and again, I must rain in my thoughts

591
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: about Burt Reynolds because I'm obsessed with him, like as

592
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: a person who essentially lived in the South my entire life.

593
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: I left for a while and now I'm back, like

594
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with Burt Reynolds.

595
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 2: I look stranger. Things have happened. The man was iconic

596
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: for a reason.

597
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: He was truly iconic. And I'll just say this, like

598
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: Smoking the Bandit, I would argue is his true euphoric

599
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Southern masterpiece.

600
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I could not agree more.

601
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: It is a euphoric Southern masterpiece. Planings.

602
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: He has never been more charming, He's never been more

603
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: hilarious and relaxed.

604
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one of the funnest movies I've ever seen

605
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: in my whole life. It puts me in the greatest mood.

606
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: And most of it was shot and takes place in Georgia,

607
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: which is the state that I'm from. Yep, And it

608
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: was shot in parts of the county that I live

609
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: in to Cab County. It was shot in Henry County, Clayton,

610
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Speaker 1: and De Caab. Even though I think there was some

611
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: like North Georgia stuff, not really sure, but it was.

612
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: It was shot in the county that I live in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, you could not get closer.

614
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Yes, And also there's like a lot of kind of

615
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: old Atlanta stuff too, like the Lakewood Fairgrounds and the

616
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: uh this is this restaurant called the Old Hickory House,

617
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: which is basically where it's the restaurant that Jackie Gleeson

618
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: gets his Diablo sandwich.

619
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: But okay, that whole scene is.

620
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Like we are you gonna talk about it?

621
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Speaker 2: That's four hours for me.

622
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean I would watch a documentary simply of b

623
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: roll from that Diablo sandwich scene, I must say, absolutely.

624
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: A full dock, a full dock.

625
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: But there was an old Hickory House. The one that

626
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: that was in the movie was I think south of Atlanta,

627
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: but there was an old Hickary House by my old work,

628
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: So I remember the restaurant. I don't know, I think

629
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: it's actually still there, but I'll just tell you. Like it,

630
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: like Smoking the bandit when it came out in nineteen

631
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: seventy seven, when it first came out, they released it

632
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: like Radio City Music Hall or something, and like nobody

633
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: saw it, Like everybody was like, this is a weird

634
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: fucking movie. Until they started playing it in the South

635
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: and woun Sho is a huge smash. It became like

636
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: the second highest grossing movie of nineteen seventy seven, behind

637
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I mean, pretty incredible and damn yeah, pretty

638
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: amazing if you think about it. And make no mistake,

639
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds was already super fucking famous outside of the

640
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: South by the time this movie came around, like he

641
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: was a star. But I will say that I think

642
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: that Burt Reynolds is beloved by Southern people, and I

643
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: think it's because he made a lot of movies in

644
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: the South, and a lot of the movies' stories took

645
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: place in the South. I mean, he made like White

646
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: Lightning and The Longest Yard and Deliverance. I mean he

647
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: was kind of like always in Georgia and Florida, and

648
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: he lived a lot of his early life in Florida.

649
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: He went to FSU, he was a football player, his

650
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: dad was a cop in Florida. And I think later

651
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: on when he moved back and lived there, he opened

652
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: a lot of weird restaurants in Florida and Georgia, dinner

653
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: theaters and shit. And he died there. So it's like

654
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: he was just always like linked to the South and

655
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: I think that's why people down here love him so much.

656
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: And he does it in a way where I know.

657
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: We talked about this a lot during the Deliverance episode,

658
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: but he's never pandering to the South in his films,

659
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: and he's never making fun of a stereotype or kind

660
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: of like he's just being a cool dude in that area.

661
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also too, I mean I've heard interviews with

662
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: him where he's talked about the South and he said, look,

663
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff down here that does embarrass

664
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: me about the South, but there's also a lot of

665
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: stuff to be proud of too, So it's kind of

666
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: like a mag He knows it's a mixed bag. He's

667
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: not like completely one way or the other about it,

668
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: but I think that his love for it is like

669
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: very apparent, and I think that that's like, you know,

670
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: mix makes other people feel real nice.

671
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: So exactly, in case you.

672
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Have not saying smoking the bandit, I'm gonna give you

673
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: a one sentence synopsis of this movie. Okay, good luck,

674
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: all right. A couple of rich guys who want a

675
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: rich guy Braddy Errand done in an impossible amount of time,

676
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: hire Burt Reynolds and Jerry Reid to go on a

677
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: fun ass road trip two sneake Coors beer into Georgia,

678
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: all while evading a bumbling Southern cop and his knucklehead son.

679
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that is beautiful that stitched on a pillow.

680
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I had to do it justice, So I was like,

681
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: let me really hack away at this perfect So let

682
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: me actually because I actually when I first saw this movie,

683
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I was young, had no idea about beer, obviously, But

684
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I will say this now in case people don't know.

685
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: The entire premise of this movie basically rests on this

686
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: idea that you weren't able to get Cores in the

687
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: South in the seventies.

688
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, liquid gold.

689
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: Now, yes, that's a weird concept for an entire film.

690
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: But in the nineteen seventies, Cores was bottled in Colorado

691
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: and pretty much was only sold right outside of Colorado, right.

692
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a regional beer. Of course,

693
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: now it's like super fucking famous, who can get it

694
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: like every gas station of the world. But back then

695
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: it was hard to get. And I'm not like a

696
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: huge beer fan or anything. I guess there is something

697
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: about wanting like a regional beer when you can't have it.

698
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Like like I'm like something. I understand people want Lone

699
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: Star beer, whether they're not in Texas or whatever, but

700
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: ultimately it's kind of a crazy premise because of course,

701
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: now with our modern minds, we're like, I can't believe

702
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: you just can't like get somebody to bring it to

703
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: your house like whenever you want. But it was back

704
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: then it was really hard to get. And honestly, I'm

705
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: not even gonna judge people who have passions for beer

706
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: because when it comes down to it, I think I

707
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: have driven ASoP.

708
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: Hand soap across state lines, so like I can't, I

709
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: can't talk right you foresure have several times, Well they

710
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: don't have one there, They don't have one in Atlanto.

711
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: We are a modern city, but we're not that modern.

712
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: People just put it out there. But I also want

713
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: to talk about how neat him a little bit too,

714
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: because he was the director of Smoking the Bandit, and

715
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: effectively he was this Hollywood stund man who was Burt

716
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: reynolds longtime stunt double, and they eventually, I mean they

717
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: worked together so much. He eventually lived in Burt Reynolds's

718
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: house and so they were like roommates for like a

719
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: decade and best friends, and you know, I've read that

720
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: they were kind of the they were kind of the

721
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: inspiration for the Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt characters and

722
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: once upon a Time in Hollywood just sort of that

723
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: like you know, stunt double lent his actor best friend hang.

724
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Right, right.

725
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: But hal Ninam actually wrote Smoking in the bandit sort

726
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: of as he wrote it initially, I think as a

727
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: B movie, Like I don't think he really had a

728
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of expectations for it, and at first it was

729
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: actually shopped to American International Pictures, which of course is

730
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, Roger Corman's production company. But it wasn't until

731
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Bert stepped in really as his best friend and was like, yo,

732
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: I want to start in this movie for you that

733
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: it just opened up a whole new level of possibilities, right,

734
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: And personally, I just have to say, like, having seen

735
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: it many times, I think it's very obvious that a

736
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: stuntman directed it, because yeah, I mean this is just

737
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: besides the action sequences, of course, but there is this

738
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: kind of like outlaw feel to it, and a lot

739
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like improvisation in the movie with

740
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: the actors, which I think kind of gives it this

741
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: like rough around the edges, but it's ultimately like a

742
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: real easy, fun, buoyant type of movie, right, just really

743
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: really fun to watch. So let me get into the

744
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: beats of this movie just a little bit. So, like

745
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the movie starts with these two rich guys, like I

746
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: alluded to, their names are big and little enis bird It,

747
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: big enis Little Linis. I mean, that's fucking crazy, right,

748
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: and they're played by Pat McCormick and Paul Williams, it

749
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: has to be said. And essentially at the beginning of

750
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: the movie, they're they've been trying to get somebody to

751
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: drive a truck full of Coors beer to Atlanta for

752
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: this car race called the Southern Classic, which they're trying

753
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: to win, and they feel like that's an inevitable fact,

754
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: and they were like, I want to celebrate. I want

755
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: to drink Coors during the celebration. And they initially had

756
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: set this guy in there and he got busted by

757
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: the cops for bootlegging, so of course they had to go, fine,

758
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: the only guy able and crazy enough to actually do it,

759
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: and of course it's Bo Darville, otherwise known as the Bandit,

760
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: played by Burt Reynolds, all right, and they offer him

761
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: like a shit ton of money and a brand new

762
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: trans am to drive if he and his friend clean

763
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: a snow aka to Snowman aka Jerry Reid, can deliver

764
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: this truckload of cores within twenty eight hours, okay, and.

765
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: They're going from from Georgia to Texas.

766
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texarcana, Yeah, which is okay, I'm gonna say this

767
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: right now. I have actually done the Google Maps research

768
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: on this. Now, according to what I've seen, it would

769
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: only take around twenty hours to drive from Atlanta to

770
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: Textar Cannon back.

771
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: Now that is does that include a heist?

772
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't include a heist dog. It doesn't include like getting

773
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: your dog out of the river and shit like that.

774
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: But you know, to me, when I kind of did

775
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: the math, I was kind of like, oh, okay, well man,

776
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: they got a lot of time. They could have really

777
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: really fucked around if they really wanted to. But in

778
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: the movie, it's it's not a lot of time. It's

779
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: a short time to get there, as Jerry Reid sings

780
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: in the song that Daniel Loves. So the plan is

781
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: that Snowman's gonna drive his big rig while the Bandit

782
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: drives the transam to block him, which basically just call

783
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: tension away from this giant at wheeler that's carrying a

784
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: legal beer. Okay, now, I gotta tell you if if

785
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: you think the Bandit is great, the Snowman is simply

786
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: a legend.

787
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: Truly a legend, because the Bandits and this is I

788
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: think the sticks in line with our mo in general.

789
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: Like the Bandit's basically doing cartwheels in his trans am

790
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: down the road and we're only paying attention to the

791
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: cool guy with his dog in.

792
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: The truck of course, Like we don't want the muscles,

793
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: we don't want.

794
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 3: The flash, we want a MOPy dog and a cool

795
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: dude with a CBE radio.

796
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, I don't know how the hell

797
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: they found a guy that was slightly more charming than

798
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds to play a sidekick, but fuck fuck they did.

799
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, for real.

800
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I the best part is even really at the very beginning,

801
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: during the setup, where the Snowman is getting roped into

802
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: this job. By the way, he's like, I'm sleeping, I

803
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: don't want to even do this shit. The Bandit shows

804
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: up to his house where his wife and kids are

805
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: like running around screaming. One of his kids kicks Bannit

806
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: and the balls like it's just a mess, and like

807
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: Bend is like, yo, we got a job to do.

808
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna pay eighty thousand dollars. And Snowman is like, Okay,

809
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: good buddy, Well, I gotta bring my dog, my old

810
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: hound dog Fred.

811
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: Which another legend.

812
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: Their relationship, their human dog friendship in this movie is

813
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: so pure it makes me want to cry. I simply

814
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: love Fred and Snowman together.

815
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: Just a man saying to another adult man, can you

816
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: get a cheeseburger for my dog? There's something so beautiful

817
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: about that. And just the way he talked, He talks

818
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 3: to him like he's talking to a partner.

819
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: I love it, love it, love it, love beautiful. It's

820
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: so beautiful. And I guess you know I have to

821
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: say too. I mean Jerry Reid, I mean he was

822
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: famous before this movie too. He was a country singer.

823
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people probably know that. And as Danielle mentioned,

824
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: he sings the theme song to smoking the band, which

825
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: is called Eastbound and Down. I think you probably know

826
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: what it is by now, and it plays all throughout

827
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: the movie, and it's literally telling you what the movie's about.

828
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: Like it's always telling you what the movie's about. And

829
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: it is I think absolutely crucial for my love of

830
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: this movie that this song is playing.

831
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: It's so good completely because it keeps the pace of

832
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: the movie up. It lets you pay attention to the

833
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: kind of absurdity and the fun that's happening without getting

834
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: off track of like where we are where are we

835
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: in the story?

836
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: Because the song is going to tell you here's where

837
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: we are in.

838
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: The story exactly. It's like they're gonna do what they

839
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: say can't be done, and it's and you're gonna be

840
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: remembering that every time they fucking do literally anything. It's

841
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: fucking amazing.

842
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: And this is a.

843
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: Song that gave us the title of another incredible Southern

844
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: I know, Southern TV show, He's Bounding Down exactly.

845
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like greatness brings greatness, you know what

846
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean. And another fucking great thing about this film too,

847
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: is that it capitalized on the CB radio craze of

848
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: the seventies, which, Okay, to some of you younger listeners,

849
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: we might as well be talking about hieroglyphics or some shit, right, Yeah,

850
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: but it's one of the best parts of this movie

851
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: hands fucking down. I just have to mention my late

852
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: uncle was a truck driver and when I was a kid,

853
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with his CB radio and also his

854
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: police scanner because I was like, wow, you can hear

855
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: beeps when fucking police officers are christ I was like,

856
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: this is incredible. I had no idea this technology.

857
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: Could even exist.

858
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: And the best part of the movie is the idea

859
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: that there's all this CB lingo, which is so fucking fun.

860
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: And if you don't know this already, you probably should

861
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: know this just in general, but a cop is called

862
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: a bear or a smoky, which is obviously where the

863
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: fucking title of the movie comes from. But it's it's

864
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: so fun like and I'll get into it more too

865
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: later talking about the film, but it's just the interplay

866
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: between the Bandit and Snowman like on their CB radios

867
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: is whah fantastic.

868
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: It is the best and it is so What I

869
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: love about that the CB radio, the inclusion of CBE

870
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: radio in this film too, is.

871
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: That you get to see how every.

872
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: Single person who's using the CB radio has their own personality. Yes,

873
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: like you've got the grave digger and you've got this

874
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: and there's women and there's just like everyone has they're

875
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: bringing a personality.

876
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: To the fold and it's so fun.

877
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: And I will forever more call truck stops the choke

878
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: and puke.

879
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: The chok and pute. Yeah, so I will say, like

880
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: now as the movie has gone on, so they've done

881
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: the job. The Banded Snowman actually get to Texas relatively

882
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: pain free. There's not really a lot going on, right

883
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: they pick up the beer, but it's the way back

884
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: where things get a little screwy. And first, as there

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: always is, as you know, there's always a woman in

886
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: a wedding dress just standing in the middle of the road.

887
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 3: That is one of the best character entrances on film.

888
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: The greatest, certainly the greatest. The woman is Sally Field

889
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: and she has just run away from her own fucking

890
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: wedding where she was supposed to marry this man named Junior,

891
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: who was played by Mike Henry, and she literally just

892
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: is in the middle of the road, jumps into the

893
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: trans am that the bandit is driving, and it's just

894
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: like changing it out of her wedding dress is like yep,

895
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm here, let's just keep rolling. She's just joining the fun.

896
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: She's so desperate to get away from this knucklehead she

897
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: will launch herself into a trans am.

898
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Has no idea who the fuck this guy is. I mean,

899
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: he's going like one hundred and ten miles an hour.

900
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he didn't kill her. But yeah, she's

901
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: just like along for the ride. And Sally Field in

902
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: this movie could not be cuter. I mean, she's just

903
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: she's christened the Frog, she gets her own handle, and

904
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: it's so cute. She's just such a wonderful addition to

905
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: this like little crew that they've established.

906
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Right, She's so funny. She's so funny in this movie.

907
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So I'll just tell you right now.

908
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: It turns out that her husband that she just left

909
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: at the altar is the son of a police officer.

910
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: His dad is the big sheriff in town, a man

911
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: named Beauford tea justice which.

912
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: He will not let you forget. He says his name

913
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: every five minutes.

914
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Much like the theme song. He'll tell you every other

915
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: scene about who he is, beautifor t Justice of Texas.

916
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm convinced that this movie probably wouldn't work

917
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: as well if Jackie Gleason had not been cast as

918
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Sheriff Beauford Tea Justice because he is so great.

919
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: Completely, and I gotta say, as a child this didn't

920
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: come through. But no one else can play someone who

921
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: is so on the verge of a heart attack. Yes,

922
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: throughout the entire filming.

923
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Okay, this guy is just a real shit eaten southern sheriff,

924
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: just how we like him, with his tiny painted on mustache.

925
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: He's sweating and he's eating nasty ass sandwiches, smoking cigarettes,

926
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: and like Danielle said, every time he talks, he's having

927
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: like a million fucking heart attacks.

928
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: And in the.

929
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: Movie, it's like his personal mission to stop the Sally

930
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Field character because she stood his set up at the

931
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: altar and he basically calls her a communist for doing that.

932
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: But then actually when he realizes that she's in the

933
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: car with the legendary bandit, he is like, oh fuck,

934
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: like this is this is literally my life's passion to

935
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: stop these two people.

936
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 2: Two for one.

937
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, like I know, I've just talked

938
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: for a while about this movie. I don't really have

939
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: to make the case for this movie much because it's

940
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: like we all agree that old car chase movies from

941
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: the seventies with like big muscle cars are so fucking

942
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: fun completely, and I mean there's this whole scene where

943
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, basically Sally Field's character and Bandit jump the bridge.

944
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: It's like the big bridge jumping scene and her excitement

945
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: after they clear that fucking bridge is truly all of

946
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: us when we're watching Smoking the Bandit, We're like, Yeah,

947
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: we want to jump the house, we want to do

948
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: we want to see more. I mean, there's just so

949
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: much to love about this movie already. I mean, you know,

950
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: besides like the interplay between the Bandit Snowman on the CBS,

951
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: and we love the lingo, and we love Beuford railing

952
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: on his son for truly being the dumbest person to

953
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: ever live.

954
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: The way that they start this journey.

955
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: This is also something that was hilarious to me as

956
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: a kid and truly has not waned at all as

957
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: an adult. The way this car starts in the beginning

958
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: of the film and the way that Buford's car looks

959
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 3: at the end of the film is its own comedy beat.

960
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good.

961
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: And I think I really think about it, and I'm like,

962
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, I watched this movie on TV a lot

963
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: when I was a little kid, and it's where I learned.

964
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: I learned a lot.

965
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: I learned the trucker thing where you pull your fist

966
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: down to get them to honk their horn.

967
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: I learned that from this movie. I think we all did,

968
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: of course.

969
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: It was like there was so much to it, like

970
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the culture of truckers and the CBS and all that

971
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: stuff that just was It formed a lot of us

972
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: when we saw this movie as kids. But the thing

973
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: is about smoking the bandit. If I'm being truly honest,

974
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: the happiness that I feel whenever I see this movie

975
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: comes from the fact that people are banding together to

976
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: outsmart cops.

977
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's everyone against the man.

978
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Everybody wants the Bandit Snowman to win, like truly every

979
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: person of all. It's like all races, ages and genders,

980
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: from like young guys to like sweet old grannies. And

981
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: they figure out what's going on. They get on their

982
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: CBE radios to let Bandit and Snowman know that they've

983
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: got their backs, and it is simply incredible. It's just

984
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: the most heartwarming thing in the world. Yes, I mean

985
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: there is a fucking Asian guy laughing while driving his

986
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: car trailer through beaufort Justice's door. Okay, another legend, true,

987
00:50:53,120 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: a true coalition of diversity against truly the cops. Okay,

988
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Like the guys that are leading a funeral procession get

989
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: on their CBS and they're like, we got you.

990
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: Banded.

991
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Here's like forty cars driving ten miles.

992
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: An hour in.

993
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: Front of this asshole share of like they're like.

994
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: We got you. It is truly heartwarming.

995
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: I think part of the reason I continue to love

996
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: this movie is even now when I watch it, I

997
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: get those feelings that I had as a little kid,

998
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: which is being excited to watch someone.

999
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: Win against the man. Yes, like before I.

1000
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: Even knew what the man was, I was excited to

1001
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: see the man torn down.

1002
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: Yes, and the Southern man, which, yes, you know Southern cops.

1003
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: They were just incredibly notorious. But like, you got this

1004
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: guy Beaufortea, Justice of Texas talking about how Sally Field

1005
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: is a communist because she left his son at the

1006
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: altar is sort of like, Okay, so now we know

1007
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. Therefore, everybody get together and make

1008
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: sure these guys don't win. And I simply love this

1009
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: movie for that. But to sum this up. I mean,

1010
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: I could really be here all day talking about Smoking

1011
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: the Bandit and why it's so wonderful. But there's this

1012
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: like joke that people from the South think that Smoking

1013
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: the Bandit is a documentary, and I always think that's

1014
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: so funny, because I'm like, yeah, that is like the

1015
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world. But it's like, it's just

1016
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: a movie that makes me so insanely happy every time

1017
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: I watch it. It reminds me, honestly that the South

1018
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: can be a very like friendly, low key, funny, hangout

1019
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: kind of place, and it kind of makes me love

1020
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: living here again. Like it just really did sort of

1021
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: remind me of like how fun the South is, and

1022
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm just it reminds me of home. So that's why

1023
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: I picked it for our theme. Oh yeah, I.

1024
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely love I love it. I'm so glad we got

1025
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: to watch this again.

1026
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when we saw this at the New Band like,

1027
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: much like yourself, I had never seen it in an audience,

1028
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: my gosh, and I did not realize how much people

1029
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: love this movie. Yeah, it is like a beloved classic.

1030
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds is so in a history and a career

1031
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: of charming movies. He is never funnier and more charming

1032
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: than he is in this movie.

1033
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just like absolutely refuses to take itself seriously,

1034
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Like it is just pure fucking fun.

1035
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: And I love that My movie is a departure for fun.

1036
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: We're going onein eighty as hard.

1037
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 3: We're making that curve as hard as possible because my film,

1038
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: my pick for our theme of movies that remind us

1039
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: of Home, was released in two thousand and two. It

1040
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: was directed by Christopher Nolan, it was written by Hillary Sites,

1041
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: and it's called Insomnia.

1042
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: What Detective Dormer doesn't know is that murder is only

1043
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: part of the plan.

1044
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: Go mare doing changes you.

1045
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: It's like witness, Oh we can do, Oh my god,

1046
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: I do. This has been an underrated film in most

1047
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: people's lives, but it was heavy on my radar because

1048
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: I moved to Alaska in two thousand and two. So

1049
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: when this movie was released, I was on my road trip.

1050
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: I drove from New York City to Alaska. I was

1051
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: on the road for like two and a half months,

1052
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: and I just kind of, you know, it was two

1053
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: thousand and two. I just I zigzagged across the country.

1054
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: I stopped and saw my friends from the Internet and

1055
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: just went wherever I wanted to go. It was a

1056
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: very free trip that I took, so it came out

1057
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: when I was on that road trip, so I hadn't.

1058
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: It took me like a year after till I actually

1059
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: saw it. Wow, but it resonates with me for several reasons.

1060
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: So just to set this up a little bit befo

1061
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: before I get into like my own experience. This is

1062
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: a film that's based on a movie called Insomnia that

1063
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: was released in nineteen ninety seven that was directed by

1064
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: Nicolage for Bennius and written by Nicolage for Bennius and

1065
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: Eric Skioldbierg.

1066
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: Girl, I tried it. Look you, I applaud. I applaud.

1067
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Could have never done any better than that.

1068
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: So my apologies to the scold Bierg family.

1069
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: It's got that letter that's the A and the E

1070
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: combined like I'm trying it. Yeah, I might as well

1071
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: be speaking to like someone on Asgard.

1072
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Like I I got.

1073
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: I tried it.

1074
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: But this movie premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival, And

1075
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: this was Christopher Nolan's first movie after Memento, which was

1076
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: like his smash hit entry into the universe of prolific

1077
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: and respected filmmakers. And so it was interesting because I

1078
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: think that the choice to do this kind of after

1079
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 3: that big of a film, it was more about cementing

1080
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: his his look or his you know, kind of his

1081
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: approach to film than it was creating just like another

1082
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: brain bending mystery. Sure, so I like that he kind

1083
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: of he went down this road and it was you know,

1084
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 3: this is a Swedish film that was that was not

1085
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: really on the radar here, so to remake it five

1086
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: years later, it was still.

1087
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: Pretty fresh and it stayed pretty true to the story.

1088
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: So I will give you the one sentence synopsis for

1089
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: this film, which I don't know. I don't know about

1090
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: this one, but I'm gonna try it.

1091
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Don't tell yourself.

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: Two LA detectives who are on the verge of being

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00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: investigated by internal affairs are sent to Alaska to help

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: solve a murder in a room with Nikki Kat's mustache.

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: Okay, if you were thinking our theme this week was

1096
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: fucking insane mustaches.

1097
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that was at This mustache is so distractingly pasted

1098
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: on and it's like gray and he's not gray, like

1099
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: they gave him some gray and they put this little

1100
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: gray mustache on him, and I'm like, you can see

1101
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: the lace underneath, like you can see the netting holding

1102
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: that thing to his face.

1103
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: It is distracting. My synopsis.

1104
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: So the film is has a great cast, like an

1105
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: incredible cast. You've got al Pacino playing one of the

1106
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 3: main investigators, Will Dormer, Martin Donovan is his partner. Hap

1107
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: You've got Hillary Swank who's like this, like tiny baby,

1108
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: Hillary Swank playing Ellie Burr, who's like this, you know,

1109
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: local ambitious cop who's meeting her hero, like al Pacino

1110
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 3: is her hero in terms of being a cop, and

1111
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: her paper at the Police Academy was based on one

1112
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: of his most famous cases. So it's at this murder

1113
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: that takes place in this very small Alaskan town that's

1114
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: made up called night Mute, which I just love. I

1115
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: just love a made up Alaska name. It's not far

1116
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: off from actual Alaskan town names.

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: First of all, I wondered about that because I was

1118
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: actually going to ask you about that. I was like,

1119
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: is that a real Is that a real town?

1120
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: But no, it is not a real town. And I

1121
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: looked it up because I was really interested in it.

1122
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: After watching it again, it was filmed in Alaska, but

1123
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: it was mostly filmed in British Columbia. So the town

1124
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: itself of night Mute is actually a town called Squamish

1125
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: in British Columbia. And then all the glacier shots that

1126
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: you see, like they're kind of flying over glaciers from

1127
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: the minute the movie starts, and that's all near Valdez

1128
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: in Alaska. And they also filmed a lot in Hyder, Alaska.

1129
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: So the cool thing about Alaska. There are many, many

1130
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: cool things about Alaska. But what I love about this

1131
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: movie right off the bat is you instantly get a

1132
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: feel for how different Alaska is from any other part

1133
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: of the world. It is so unique, and it is

1134
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: from town to town, from city to city within Alaska,

1135
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: you're going to get a different vibe. So if you

1136
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: drive down to Homer and you're driving down on the spit,

1137
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: you're going to get more of what you see in

1138
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: this movie, which is like, you know, the fog and

1139
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: the trees and the waterline and the ocean and kind

1140
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: of that fishing lifestyle. And then if you go more

1141
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: inland to Fairbanks, it's like a whole different experience and

1142
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: it's very you know, the air base and the college,

1143
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: and it's just every part of Alaska, because Alaska is huge,

1144
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 3: and I didn't conceive of how big it was until

1145
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: I got there because.

1146
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: Someone told me.

1147
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize this, of course, but someone told

1148
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: me that Alaska is not only the biggest state, but

1149
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: it stretches from east.

1150
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: Coast to west coast. Wow.

1151
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: If you superimpose a map of Alaska over a map

1152
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: of the United States, it fell the United City. It's

1153
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: a massive, massive place. And so of course there's going

1154
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: to be so many different types of ecosystems and ways

1155
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: of living within that. So I loved just from the beginning.

1156
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: They're flying over this glacier and there's nothing, there's no

1157
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: color in the.

1158
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: World like glacial blue.

1159
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: Like to see it up close and personal is one

1160
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 3: of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had. And yeah,

1161
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: so I moved to Alaska on the heels of September eleventh.

1162
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: I was living and working in New York City at

1163
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: the time. I was working for the United Nations and

1164
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: I was looking around and I'm like, there's sharpshooters on

1165
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: the roof, there's anthrax threats, Like the city was just

1166
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: scary to me, and I went to visit a friend

1167
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: who had moved there, and I'm like, you know what,

1168
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing it, And I sold everything I owned and

1169
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: I bought a car. I bought a Superroof, a little

1170
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: used Super Roof Forester, and I took off. I took

1171
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: off with whatever I could fit in that car.

1172
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: And when I.

1173
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: Got there, I felt like, Okay, I'm used to living

1174
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: in places where there are not.

1175
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: A lot of black people. There are not a lot

1176
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: of black peple.

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: There are not a lot.

1178
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: Of black people in Alaska when I got there, to

1179
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: the point where I made a joke. When I was

1180
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: leaving Alaska, I also drove out of Alaska and as

1181
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: I was driving out of the city limits, I saw

1182
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: a car with a black family driving in and I

1183
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: was like, they got the memo, one in, one out,

1184
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: They're just not However, you can't say the place isn't diverse,

1185
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 3: because there's a huge Native population and Inuit population there.

1186
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting place, Like there's all these things

1187
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 3: just kind of butting up against each other constantly. But

1188
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: the reason I chose this movie and not something about say,

1189
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: like you know New York City or you know upstate

1190
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: New York or any other place that I spent a

1191
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: lot of time is because it felt this movie felt

1192
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: like Alaska to me, And it's the only movie I've

1193
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: seen that really has accomplished that, while you know, also

1194
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: perpetuating a lot of drama, but it feels like Alaska.

1195
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: Like that that the slow there's a slowness to the

1196
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: town that they're in that really telegraphs a lot of peace.

1197
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: And I felt a lot of peace and calm in Alaska.

1198
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: And I kind of turned into a nature girl in

1199
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: the way that I never had before. Like I was

1200
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: gung ho city kid and had lived in city, you know,

1201
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: the city for a long time before I moved there,

1202
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: and always wanted to always wanted to live in cities.

1203
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: And when I got there, I started, you know, like

1204
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: doing glacier hikes and like going out on long walks

1205
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: and just being outside felt different.

1206
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: It's the It's the first place.

1207
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: Where I didn't think the Purple Mountain's Majesty, part of

1208
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: our national anthem was real until I moved to Alaska.

1209
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: Because when the sun sets on like the loopen and

1210
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: the heather in the mountains, it looks gorgeous. It's like

1211
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: this gorgeous pinkish purple. It's just it's a beautiful, beautiful place.

1212
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: And the thing that this movie nails, which.

1213
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: Is crucial to the to the whole plot, is the

1214
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: fact that it is the land of the midnight sun.

1215
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: There's a whole portion of the year where for months

1216
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: the sun is up in.

1217
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: The sky, the sun does not set.

1218
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: And then in the winter there are whole portions of

1219
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: the winter where the sun does not rise.

1220
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: Well.

1221
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: And Okay, so this was a huge part of the

1222
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: movie obviously, and I actually don't understand it in a

1223
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: weird way, and I hate to admit that, but it's like,

1224
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: the thing about Alaska that is so attractive to me

1225
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: is that I can't get like a sense of what

1226
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: it would be like, like I'm yeah, I'm certain of

1227
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: that it is a type of environment where the natural

1228
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: world plays so much into your everyday living there, kind

1229
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: of like when you live, you know, anywhere that has

1230
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: like big weather events or like lots of snow or

1231
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: lots of rain. It's kind of like that obviously informs

1232
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: sort of how people live, right, Yeah, But I can't

1233
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: like I know what this happens in like extreme northern

1234
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: places where the sun doesn't go down or doesn't come

1235
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: up for And is that because it's just positioned like

1236
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 1: in the earth that way, or explain.

1237
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: It to me.

1238
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: Yes, so so Norway, Like there's a lot of the

1239
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: northern places. Yeah, like extremely extreme northern places experience this

1240
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: because it is exactly that. It's the way that the

1241
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: Earth is revolving around the Sun in that moment, and

1242
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, just for that and it's not all year

1243
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: round and it's not extended. It's like there might be

1244
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: four months or three months where it feels like it's

1245
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: always light out, but the sun does go down the

1246
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: la little bit, it just doesn't get like dark and

1247
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: that's because the way the Earth is rotating around the

1248
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: Sun at that time of year, right, you're just never

1249
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 3: getting that exposure to darkness. Wow.

1250
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

1251
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: It is also absolutely mind bendingly psycho like it is.

1252
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you.

1253
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 3: Like one of the crucial themes in this movie is

1254
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: that al Pacino cannot sleep and he is he isn't

1255
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: shutting his eyes from the minute he gets on that

1256
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: plane to go to Alaska. And there's a little you know,

1257
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: there's a little sub subtrifuge. There a little thread that

1258
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: runs through that makes you think maybe he's not able

1259
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: to sleep because he's got other things on his mind.

1260
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: But Alaska just isn't helping with that at all. And

1261
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: it's very true, like there were times in the summer

1262
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: where you know, June July, where it would be one

1263
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: two o'clock in the morning and look like it was

1264
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: one or two o'clock in the afternoon, and in order

1265
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: to get sleep, I would have to tape tinfoil to

1266
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 3: my windows, like not even like I couldn't afford blackout

1267
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: curtains at that point, but that was kind of the

1268
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: go to fix. Was either you taped tinfoil directly to

1269
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: your window or you taped tinfoil on cardboard boxes and prop.

1270
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: Them up in the window to get darkness.

1271
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: Wild So was that like something that you ever got

1272
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: used to or was that just a constant that would

1273
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: freak me out? And like a way like did it

1274
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: mess with your mood and all that stuff like I

1275
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine.

1276
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1277
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I will say first and foremost is

1278
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: if you're someone like me who suffers some clinical depression,

1279
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: don't move the fucking Alasta right like it focked twice

1280
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: a year because when in the winter, I'm like, it's

1281
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: so dark.

1282
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: In the summer, I was like, I.

1283
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: Feel like I cannot go to sleep because I'm missing

1284
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: out on everything.

1285
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: It's still the middle of the day.

1286
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah yeah, yeah.

1287
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean you kind of acclimate enough to get some

1288
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: sleep eventually. But I cannot tell you how many times

1289
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: someone would just call at like two.

1290
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: O'clock in the morning and be like, I'm going for

1291
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: a bike ride. Do you want to go? And you're like, yeah,

1292
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm using for a bike ride because why not?

1293
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so much of like al Pacino's like so

1294
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: much of like what he experienced in this film because

1295
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't sleeping. I mean it was just so it

1296
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: made me so freaked out, like watching him not sleep

1297
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: basically yeah, because that's not a feeling. I hate that feeling,

1298
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: the feeling of not being able to sleep when I

1299
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: know I'm supposed to be sleeping, especially like you've got

1300
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: something to do the next day and you're like I've

1301
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 1: got to wake up early and I can't go to bed,

1302
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: and I just, oh my god, that fucked me up.

1303
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: Like just the entire movie, like him not being able

1304
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: to sleep and him putting the alarm clock like in

1305
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: the you know, bedside Table, because it's like time is meaningless.

1306
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think.

1307
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: Eactly, just him seeing those flashes and like it really

1308
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 3: it kind of fucked me up in a PTSD sense

1309
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: as well, Like I'm with you on that, because it

1310
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: feels to go even a day without sleep makes me

1311
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: feel like I'm about to crumble. And we're watching someone

1312
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: in the film, it's like five or six days that

1313
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: he's not able to sleep, and that also becomes a

1314
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 3: central part of him trying to solve this case. So

1315
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: what I love about the movie, like now that we've

1316
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 3: kind of gotten the feel for like why I chose

1317
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: this as my movie, that reminds me of home. What

1318
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: I love about this movie and there's so much going

1319
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: on here is that and this is it is kind

1320
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: of a spoiler, but it's also crucial to the plot,

1321
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: and it happens early enough that I don't feel like

1322
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 3: it's a complete spoiler. Al Pacino is when they arrive

1323
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: in Alaska, Will Dormer and hap are discussing the fact

1324
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: that they're going to be investigated by internal affairs, and

1325
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: Half is like, well, they offered me a deal and

1326
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to take it like I'm going to get probation,

1327
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell them whatever they want because

1328
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 3: I need to be a cop, like I need to

1329
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 3: keep doing this. And Will Dormer, the Bacino character, is

1330
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: fucking pissed because he's like, look, here's what's going to happen.

1331
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: If you do that, I'm fucked. And anyone that I

1332
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: ever put in jail, like all my famous cases, everything

1333
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 3: I ever did, all those people will get out on

1334
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: a technicality.

1335
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: And Hap is just like, I have to do this.

1336
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't care like I'm doing this.

1337
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: So they've got this internal friction already as they're starting

1338
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: to investigate this case of this seventeen year old girl

1339
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: named Kay Connell who was killed and whose body was

1340
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: found on this trash heap.

1341
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: So they are setting these traps.

1342
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 3: They're working, they're doing their police work, trying to figure

1343
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: out how to catch the person who might have killed her.

1344
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 3: And during a pivotal chase scene in the fog on

1345
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: the beach near this shack in Alaska, Dormer shoots Hap.

1346
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 3: He thinks he's shooting at the suspect, but he shoots

1347
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: and kills his partner right so from that moment on

1348
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: when we finally do meet that killer, and we finally

1349
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: do meet that person, they are able to insinuate themselves

1350
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: into the case by kind of being like, I know

1351
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: your secret, because there's a bunch of cover up that

1352
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: he does to kind of make it less obvious and

1353
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: obscure the fact that he killed his partner. Because here's

1354
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 3: the thing. He's a corrupt cop.

1355
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: He really is. And that's what's fucking fascinating.

1356
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: To me about the narrative of this film is that

1357
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 3: this is someone who, yes, is trying his best, yes,

1358
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: is struggling in a lot of ways, but is also

1359
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent corrupt in terms of how he decides

1360
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: to make his case, and we're watching him do it

1361
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 3: in this case totally.

1362
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: And that was the thing.

1363
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: If you thought this episode this week was about fucked

1364
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: up cops, you wouldn't be totally wrong, but you're also

1365
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: not right but totally true because it is the It's

1366
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: that there's there's movies out there that kind of have

1367
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: this sort of narrative structures sometimes where it's like the

1368
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: this can't happen if this happens, or like this this

1369
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: was it was like a domino effect of like, you know,

1370
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: now this character is in a bind because they made

1371
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: this choice and it sets everything up for the rest

1372
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: of the film. And this other thing, which I thought

1373
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: was like it was really like impressive. And I know

1374
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: that this was like a remake of a film that

1375
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: came out I guess this is in the nineties, like

1376
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: you said, but that structure was is super interesting and

1377
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: also just so stressful, like so stressful. There's a lot

1378
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: of stressful parts of this movie.

1379
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: By the way, the whole movie is very stressful, but just.

1380
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: That whole predicament that the Will Dormer character is in,

1381
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: and on top of the fact that he's not sleeping, yes,

1382
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: so he's kind of got this like weird state of

1383
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: consciousness the entire time that he's here. That is super

1384
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: super duper stressful and put me on the little edge

1385
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: of my fucking seat.

1386
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: So thank you, Ah, you're welcome. You're welcome.

1387
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: And it's the other wild thing about this movie to

1388
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 3: me is that the other big name star in this

1389
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 3: film is Robin Williams, and you do not even see

1390
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: him until an hour into the movie.

1391
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the point where you forget he's even there.

1392
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: I think I read a Roger Ebert review of this

1393
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: movie and he said the same thing where it was like,

1394
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 3: you forget that he's even in it?

1395
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me just tell you, I'm gonna went

1396
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: in completely blind because obviously I'd never even heard of

1397
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: this movie before seeing it, which is such a shame

1398
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: because it's really great. I had to re check the

1399
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: IMDb page like three or four times to be like,

1400
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: did I know that he was in this movie? Because also,

1401
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: like the around this time that this movie came out

1402
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: was when he was also in One Hour Photo, Like

1403
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: I want to say it was either the same year

1404
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: or like it was the same year, same year, so

1405
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: it was like the year that Robin Williams like turn

1406
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: into a villain and yep, between those two movies, I

1407
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like, yeah, he's fucking terrifying,

1408
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: but you don't know it until like half the movie's over.

1409
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 3: Right exactly, and it's we talked about this a lot

1410
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: in the Dead Poet Society episode, but he is a

1411
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: he was I got. It still hurts my heart to say.

1412
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 3: He was a fantastic dramatic actor and he really could

1413
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 3: do such He had such a range, and so to

1414
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: see him do both of those movies in this year

1415
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: was really a great extension of his ability to be

1416
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: a villain, and not just to be a non comedic guy,

1417
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 3: but to be an actual villain.

1418
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: Right, And now I'm thinking, should I should I have

1419
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: said that? Because doesn't does that spoil the movie if

1420
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: I call him a villain?

1421
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 3: No?

1422
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: Because that's okay.

1423
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: So you forget that he is in the film, which

1424
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: is a great way to reveal the bad guy. But

1425
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: you know, because he's a top build actor in a

1426
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: movie with al Pacino, he's not just going to be

1427
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: playing like a grocery store clerk like you know, He's

1428
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: going to have a pivotal role in this movie. And

1429
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: it's clear from the beginning of the film who it

1430
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: is who commits the crime. So the interesting part of

1431
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: the movie isn't who done it. The interesting part.

1432
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: Of the movie is why? And who is he? To me?

1433
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh completely? I mean I have to admit at

1434
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: the beginning, I was really unsure about what was going

1435
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: to happen, and I actually kind of thought it was

1436
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: going to be like Martin Donovan. And I only think

1437
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: I thought that because I like Martin Donovan so much,

1438
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: and I was like I don't know a man in

1439
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: the entire movie. Ah, Like I want him to not

1440
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,440
Speaker 1: die within the first like fifteen minutes in the exactly,

1441
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: But when it is revealed that it's ultimately somebody else,

1442
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it is like a big shock. And considering

1443
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: how famous Robin Williams was at that time, to like

1444
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: use him in that way in this movie is kind

1445
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: of surprising, but also like really satisfying, I mean, because

1446
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: it obviously like takes the story to another level.

1447
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, Yeah, because I think that it's it's you

1448
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: kind of know, like once you know that it's him,

1449
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 3: I think it's it's really impressive that they were able

1450
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 3: to keep the narrative structure going beyond that point, because

1451
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: that's usually the point where most movies want you to

1452
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: get is you know who did it, and we're going

1453
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 3: to scuer it up to a certain point. It could

1454
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: have been happy, it could have been this guy. Yeah,

1455
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 3: But they don't do that. They go completely the opposite way,

1456
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: where they're like, we're going to take this character, who's

1457
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 3: the character's name is Walter Finch, and we're going to

1458
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: make Walter Finch very obviously the person who did it.

1459
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: But then all of your questions become wrapped up in

1460
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 3: the for the rest of the movie in what the

1461
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: fuck why what's happened? You still don't have clarity around

1462
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: the act of murder, just because you know who did it.

1463
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: And I think that is that, to me, is a

1464
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: really cool and pretty fascinating psychological film to make, because

1465
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 3: a lot of psychological thrillers and you know, cop movies

1466
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: and things like that, they they don't they don't obscure

1467
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 3: that much, or they're kind of you know, they obscure

1468
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 3: too much, and that's that's kind of the point of it.

1469
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: So for this to be like here, here's everything, this

1470
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: guy dies, and this guy's the killer, and you're still

1471
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 3: like riveted, right, I just think that's an incredible, incredible

1472
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 3: way to make a movie.

1473
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because there's kind of like two separate cases going on.

1474
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: So there's the murder of the girl from the beginning

1475
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: of the film, which is the reason why you know,

1476
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 1: Will Dormer and hap even go up to Alaska, and

1477
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: then there's the case of Will Dormer. So it's that

1478
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: thing where you're like you're watching kind of two things

1479
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: play out at the same time, and you're just always

1480
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: having to like pivot back and forth between like what

1481
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: you want to happen, which I think is like what

1482
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: really makes this an engaging movie because the other component

1483
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: to this story too, is that the Hilary Swayne character,

1484
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: I think she's kind of set up as like a

1485
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: like a newbie. She's like this new you know cop

1486
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: that's part of the FBI or whatever. And she looks

1487
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: up to Pachino's character, like you said, and she's just

1488
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: trying to study his move because he's just kind of

1489
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: like a legendary detective and she's just trying to really

1490
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: like understand how he works. And then she gets put

1491
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: in charge of figuring out some something that he was

1492
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: involved in, and now she has to kind of look

1493
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: at him in a different way. Yeah, Like she becomes

1494
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: suspicious of him and not you know whatever, like worshiping

1495
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: him or whatever. And that's a crazy feeling too, because

1496
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: you can just see like as the movie progresses, her

1497
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 1: sort of like her pivot of having to be like,

1498
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy was my everything. I studied

1499
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: him when I was in school to like maybe I

1500
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: have to bust this guy for something, and this is

1501
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: fucking nuts, Like it's kind of amazing.

1502
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 3: It is definitely like you're watching the scales fall from

1503
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 3: her eyes. Yeah, And it's again, it's not done in

1504
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 3: a way that makes her look stupid or it makes

1505
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: her look like an incredibly competent cop and an incredibly

1506
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: competent person that she would be able to take these

1507
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 3: risks against someone.

1508
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: Who is her one of her you know, her heroes.

1509
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's also a scene with Mara Tyrney has

1510
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 3: a very small role in the movie, and she kind

1511
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: of plays the person who runs the hotel where Dormer

1512
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: and Happer are staying, and at one point she says

1513
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 3: to Dormer that there are two kinds of people in Alaska,

1514
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: the ones who were born here and the ones who

1515
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: came here to escape something else. And she says, you know,

1516
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't born here. So that also kind of gave

1517
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 3: me It's not only great for the plot, and it's

1518
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 3: not only great for what's happening in the in the

1519
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: movie at that point, but it is also a very

1520
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: Alaskan feeling, because that is true. It's it's it's an

1521
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: incredibly it's it's a place where people go to be

1522
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: free and to be free of what that's up to you.

1523
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 3: But they kind of want that freedom of nature to

1524
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: match the emotional feeling of freedom that they're looking for.

1525
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 3: And you know, that space is really uniquely set up

1526
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: for for that kind of exploration. So there's a lot

1527
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 3: of like soul searching that happens in Alaska, and it's

1528
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 3: very It's an easy place to fall in love with

1529
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 3: if you're you're looking for something. So even like from

1530
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: my own perspective, I think that you know, at first

1531
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 3: I went there thinking, well, I'm looking for an adventure

1532
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: or I'm looking for something different from New York. But

1533
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: when I really dug into it, and when I was

1534
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: thinking about it, you know, right before I decided to leave,

1535
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: is I kind of came there looking for a way

1536
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: to feel comfortable in the world again because my world

1537
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 3: had genuinely collapsed, Like I watched the World Trade Center

1538
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: fall and my world collapse. The city I loved and

1539
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 3: knew the best was different, the people were different. I

1540
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 3: was twenty three, and I just felt like I have

1541
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,839
Speaker 3: to find another place to be comfortable in this world.

1542
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 3: So when I went to Alaska, I didn't think about

1543
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: about it that deeply. It was just like, oh, well,

1544
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: I'll get my car and drive to Alaska whatever.

1545
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: But when I.

1546
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: Actually spent time there, I realized that I was I

1547
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: was cultivating something much deeper within myself, and that that

1548
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 3: place is very again, like uniquely set up to do that.

1549
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: I think that it's a beautiful place. It's so many

1550
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: people experience it by cruise, and that's one way to

1551
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 3: do it. But I think to actually be on that

1552
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 3: land and to like experience that police it's special and

1553
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: it's a once in a lifetime thing, and I'm glad

1554
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 3: I did it.

1555
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: But this movie was incredibly stressful and.

1556
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: Brought back a lot of stress about living there. But

1557
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 3: it mostly just reminds me of how proud I am

1558
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: of myself that I made that decision, and how glad

1559
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: I am that I made that decision because at forty four,

1560
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm not moving to Alaska.

1561
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: That is ultimately one of the most interesting parts of

1562
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: the movie for me is the idea of the Pacino

1563
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: character being from Los Angeles and he kind of comes

1564
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: into this community thinking he's like the you know, the

1565
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: guy you heard about, he's hot shit, and he kind

1566
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: of immediately sort of comes in and starts like you know,

1567
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: not you know, not really directly accusing people of not

1568
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: having not done a good job with the investigation, but

1569
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: it's just that he's kind of like, oh, I'm back

1570
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 1: in this like yokl town, and these fucking cops with

1571
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: their stupid mustaches, they probably bungled this case up so poorly.

1572
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: But that he ends up like, you know, really not

1573
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: understanding what this place is about, and he's kind of

1574
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: like crumbling in this environment, you know, from the sleep

1575
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: and just from everything that's going on. So it is

1576
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: that that plot device of you know, it's a fish

1577
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: out of water story and kind of like a man

1578
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: versus nature story, you know, where he's just kind of

1579
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: there and he doesn't know how to survive there in

1580
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and there's a there's a moment

1581
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 1: too where I think, especially with the kids, like the kids,

1582
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 1: the high school kids that are involved in the crime,

1583
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me a little of Twin Peaks,

1584
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: And I know that that Twin Peaks is also kind

1585
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: of in that region of the world of that like

1586
01:22:53,880 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: the ding Dong's in the hinterland world, but that environment

1587
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: and I think makes for really good film and TV.

1588
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's super interesting that you you live there, honestly,

1589
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: when you tell me stories about it, and you've talked

1590
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot about it on this podcast before, like just

1591
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: your your bear stories and one off you should get

1592
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: stish your premium people just so you could hear the

1593
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: bear story. I think it's not an early episode. But yeah,

1594
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled by the idea of living there. But there's

1595
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, am I strong enough

1596
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: to live there, like even in my twenties, but especially now,

1597
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I don't think I am.

1598
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: I think I think we should definitely visit because it

1599
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: is one hundred percent your kind of place to visit.

1600
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 3: For sure, you would have a blast there, but it

1601
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: really is a different beast when you consider being there

1602
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 3: all year round.

1603
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, when I lived there, I was broke.

1604
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't afford to fly home.

1605
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: I couldn't afford to leave, I couldn't afford to like

1606
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 3: take these trips and get away from it. I was

1607
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: just there for years and really getting into that place.

1608
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 3: And something you said also reminded me of something else

1609
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: that was in that Roger Ebert review of this movie

1610
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: when it came out, which is Ebert pointed out the

1611
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 3: fact that Dormer is in a place where, because of

1612
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: the relentless sunshine, he can't hide, he can't hide from anything.

1613
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: And that is very much a feeling that Alaska gave

1614
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 3: me the entire time I lived there. I lived in

1615
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 3: Anchorage for three years and I lived out in the

1616
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 3: Aleutian Islands for a year, and the entire time that

1617
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: that was the persistent feeling of like, I cannot hide

1618
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,879
Speaker 3: from myself here, I can't hide from my emotions.

1619
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: I had to.

1620
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: Really, it was the first place I really started looking

1621
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 3: at my depression. It was the first place I really

1622
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: started looking at like my emotional response to people and

1623
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 3: my emotional response to loneliness, and like you cannot hide

1624
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: in that place, whether the sun's up or not. But

1625
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: there's also you know, it's again the winter not much

1626
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: better there. There's specifically a moment where I remember sitting

1627
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: at my desk I worked for the University of Alaska

1628
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: for a little bit, and I looked out.

1629
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: I looked out the window and I saw the sun.

1630
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 3: It was like three o'clock in the afternoon, and the

1631
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: sun kind of came up on the horizon and it

1632
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: was just like a little dim ball of light and.

1633
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Then it went right back down. Oh and I went

1634
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 2: and sat in my car when I left work that

1635
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: day and just cried.

1636
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I just cried. I can't even imagine.

1637
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: Holy shit.

1638
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: But it's a gorgeous place.

1639
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: It's an intensely beautiful place to experience, and it's just

1640
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 3: full of it's full of wonder.

1641
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: It's the first place I've.

1642
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 3: Lived, maybe the only place I've lived, where I felt

1643
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 3: a sense of real wonder. And I think that this

1644
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 3: movie just nails a ton of deck. Yeah, I loved it.

1645
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 2: I love this movie.

1646
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad. I say this often on this podcast,

1647
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: but I'm so glad that you get me out of

1648
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: my zone to watch movies like this, because, you know,

1649
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: for a movie from two thousand and two, and I

1650
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what I was watching back in two

1651
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: thousand and two. Geez, I don't know, but this was

1652
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: off my radar and I had seen Memento, So I

1653
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: guess it's just like I just didn't realize that he

1654
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: had made another movie after Memento. And it's probably from

1655
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: the reasons that you mentioned, but I was just so

1656
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: surprising and honestly, like, it's so totally different from my movie,

1657
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: both in like location and just vibe. But the vibe

1658
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: that it presents is definitely It's moody, it's atmospheric, it's

1659
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: like scary, stressful obviously, but ultimately like a really great thriller,

1660
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: like I mean, really really good, really textured, and thank you,

1661
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: thank you for making me watch it because I enjoyed it.

1662
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you loved it.

1663
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you'd never seen it or you know,

1664
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 3: was it on your radar, So that makes.

1665
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: Me really happy.

1666
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 3: That's like one of the beautiful parts of doing this

1667
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 3: podcast is that we both get to watch things that

1668
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 3: we'd never seen before.

1669
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also like too when we do these

1670
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: like more personal sort of themes, because I like sort

1671
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: of seeing your movie going habits, Like I kind of

1672
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: like seeing a movie knowing that it has like a

1673
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: personal thing for you. So yeah, it's great.

1674
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: I love doing this. It's the best. I love this.

1675
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

1676
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: This week was awesome.

1677
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: And you know, if you're not listening to us on

1678
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: Stitch your premium, I hate to break it to you,

1679
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,040
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1680
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: and I rarely do, but you are genuinely missing out.

1681
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 3: You're not listening to our premium episodes. They're only on

1682
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: stitch your premium and you can use the promo code

1683
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,720
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1684
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: there because there might be a point where you're like,

1685
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 3: I don't remember them telling that story.

1686
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: It was probably on a premium episode.

1687
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: Probably was. It, Probably was. They're a lot of fun,

1688
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,280
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1689
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,400
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1690
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,880
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1691
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1692
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,960
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1693
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1695
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,800
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1696
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,640
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1697
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,240
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1698
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Please do all three. It takes a minute.

1699
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,599
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1700
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,880
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1701
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,320
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1702
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,120
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1703
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: to check in in these different places and kind of

1704
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 3: see what you're responding to in the show.

1705
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it.

1706
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: Love it.

1707
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: Love it. When we get really nice Instagram comments and

1708
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: people want to talk about their experiences with the movies

1709
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and stuff, it's really great. But we absolutely have to

1710
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: give them the movies for next week. Do you want

1711
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: to do that?

1712
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so guess the theme if you can. This is

1713
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: going to be a fun one.

1714
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: I'm excited already.

1715
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean every episode is a fun one, but this

1716
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: is going to be a fun one. Next week's movies

1717
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 3: are Little Children from two thousand and six and Desperate

1718
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 3: Living from nineteen seventy seven.

1719
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, please, And if.

1720
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: You guess that theme, you might be able to get

1721
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,799
Speaker 3: in on this one dollar wager that really, I don't.

1722
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: Think we're legally allowed to offer you money.

1723
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: No, but you can have the pride of knowing that

1724
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: you figured out this theme if you guess it.

1725
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 1: Yes, the pride of knowing is at least worth two dollars,

1726
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: if not more, Well, that's a big ten four old

1727
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: buddy ten ten.

1728
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to the choke and puke.

1729
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll meet you there.

1730
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: I got a smoky on my tail, all right, Well,

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