Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, August twentieth. I'm coming on
Speaker 1: now so you all can hear my continuation of a
Speaker 1: shouting match I've been having with a twelve year old
Speaker 1: child for the past hour. What could I, a forty
Speaker 1: eight year old grown ass man, be arguing with a
Speaker 1: twelve year old child about and allowing her to shout
Speaker 1: at me about. This is what we're arguing over, Team
Speaker 1: Conrad or team Jeremiah. And with that, welcome to this
Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. This is a amuless edition
Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ because she happens to be out
Speaker 1: of town right now and I'm holding it down and
Speaker 1: watching the show called The Summer I Turn Pretty and
Speaker 1: everybody's heard of it because it is an absolute phenomenon
Speaker 1: right now, and it's in the middle on the back
Speaker 1: end of its third season now a few weeks before
Speaker 1: the season finale. But this is all everybody's talking about.
Speaker 1: And are you with Conrad or are you with Jeremiah? Now,
Speaker 1: I am not going to explain that to anybody. If
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm not going to give you
Speaker 1: a whole backstory and get you caught up on what
Speaker 1: this show is. Why it's a big deal who Conrad is,
Speaker 1: who Jeremiah is, and who Belly is. If you don't know,
Speaker 1: figure it out. But right now, folks, this is such
Speaker 1: a deal in society and in the zeitgeistuff you will,
Speaker 1: a pop culture. This show is a phenomenon that I
Speaker 1: a forty eight year old black man am arguing with
Speaker 1: his twelve year old daughter about what some fictional white
Speaker 1: kids are doing in Massachusetts during the summer. And that's
Speaker 1: where we are. So no, Robot is not here for this.
Speaker 1: You know who's here. Please introduce yourself, Saben. Yeah, Sabine Holmes.
Speaker 1: This is the one I've been arguing with my twelve
Speaker 1: year old child. Team Conrad Bean or team Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: I'm with Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Why this is a problem for me? We are arguing,
Speaker 1: We are literally shouting at each other about which one
Speaker 1: folks should be on board with. Have you wrote Robes
Speaker 1: been been with Jeremiah the whole way?
Speaker 2: Well, only through the first season so far. We're only
Speaker 2: two episodes into the second season, but so far and
Speaker 2: with Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: I should give that clarity, folks. We are arguing over
Speaker 1: a show we're not even up to date on it.
Speaker 1: We have seen, you know what, I'll be fair, I've
Speaker 1: seen like one episode of the first season and two
Speaker 1: or three episodes of the second season, and we're on
Speaker 1: what episode three of season two two right now, and
Speaker 1: this is where we are. Why? What is your I
Speaker 1: am very much solid in the team Conrad camp and
Speaker 1: you you were if you always You'll can see her.
Speaker 1: She is, her body is, she's gyrating. She is so
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and pissed at me for liking Conrad. What's your
Speaker 1: problem with Conrad?
Speaker 2: My problem with Conrad is that I think I think
Speaker 2: he's just not very interested. I there was a time
Speaker 2: on the dock where they kissed or almost kissed, and
Speaker 2: the next day he kind of was dismissive and acted
Speaker 2: like he didn't remember that happened.
Speaker 1: Are so okay? Your thing is you don't think Conrad
Speaker 1: is as into her as Jeremiah is into her? Is
Speaker 1: that it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Jeremiah has been trying harder for the
Speaker 2: first season.
Speaker 1: He's been trying harder. Now I have to ask, does
Speaker 1: it have anything to do with the how the two
Speaker 1: of them look. You're twelve, your girl, you might be
Speaker 1: a little hey, this one's a little cuter than that
Speaker 1: one is I have anything to do with it. I
Speaker 1: can't believe he's asking my daughter this freaking question. No, No,
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: No. My only problem with Conrad is that he does
Speaker 2: not like he's putting as much effort as That's it.
Speaker 2: That's my only.
Speaker 1: Okay, See, I like Comrade is just cool. He's chill.
Speaker 1: He's a little older mate. I just like, I don't
Speaker 1: even understand it. I haven't seen enough of the show, really,
Speaker 1: but I am solidly with Conrad.
Speaker 2: But you your only reason is that you think it's
Speaker 2: he's just cooler.
Speaker 1: I just he.
Speaker 2: Does doesn't have anything to do with being better for belly.
Speaker 2: If you have someone who isn't very interested in you,
Speaker 2: that's not a good partner.
Speaker 1: But who says he's not interested you do? Okay, it just.
Speaker 2: Looks like it just feels like he's not interested.
Speaker 1: Okay, what issue? Okay, this is the part I did see.
Speaker 1: I did see the end the season finale of season one.
Speaker 1: They were at the debutant ball. Why is that not
Speaker 1: a moment? You all were telling me about it before
Speaker 1: the moment happened. Oh it's so sweet. She got left
Speaker 1: at the debutante ball and Conrad came to the rescue.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so why are we letting him ride on? That?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't any best friend do that for their friend.
Speaker 1: You're not giving him credit for that as a romantic gesture.
Speaker 2: Not really.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's just hating on Conrad.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not hating. I'm giving him. I'm giving him.
Speaker 2: That's sweet. I'm giving him giving him like was the
Speaker 2: applause for that? But I just feel like any good
Speaker 2: friend would do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking about this, folks, I full del
Speaker 1: I have heard of the show. I've seen the previews.
Speaker 1: I've seen. Of course, I'm on Amazon Prime, so it's
Speaker 1: up there for the previews. And the season is that.
Speaker 1: I never had any interest in watching this show, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Robot's daughter able one day,
Speaker 1: it's talking to me about it. Now I watched it.
Speaker 1: She was telling me something, so I watched the first
Speaker 1: few minutes. I said, oh, this is not my thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not into it. Let me move on, all right.
Speaker 1: Days later, whatever, Robots starts to watch a little bit,
Speaker 1: and next thing I know, there are more conversations about it.
Speaker 1: And now I'm running into more people and everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about it. And now I'm hanging out with Sabine and
Speaker 1: she is now blowing through and streaming the season right,
Speaker 1: totally blowing through this thing, and here we are. It's
Speaker 1: amazing how these shows and as many of you all know,
Speaker 1: become the phenomenon that they are. I guess Love Island
Speaker 1: was the last one. I guess the last of us
Speaker 1: were talking about shows like White Lotus. They're just a
Speaker 1: handful of these that become these talkable and just cultural moments,
Speaker 1: to the point that, yes, I am pretty sure, Robes,
Speaker 1: I keep calling you, Robes. I'm pretty sure, Sabine. When
Speaker 1: they did this show and we're putting it together, their
Speaker 1: target audience was not me. They were not thinking that,
Speaker 1: you know what, late forties black guys, they're gonna love this,
Speaker 1: love it. But it says something, does it not? That
Speaker 1: a show has me engaged in such a way, Who
Speaker 1: has me fired up in such a way, Who has
Speaker 1: me literally arguing with his daughter over these two dudes
Speaker 1: in a fictional show, to where I'm actually getting upset
Speaker 1: with you in the living room, Like, how can you
Speaker 1: think that? Of course not Jeremiah, of course, nobody want
Speaker 1: what is that olive skin? Whose skin is that beautifully olive?
Speaker 1: And eyes that beautifully blue? Nobody's like that. I can't
Speaker 1: get on board with that guy. He is gorgeous. He
Speaker 1: is gorgeous. We'll give him that, But so is Conrad.
Speaker 1: Why are you making any eyes.
Speaker 2: The point of a love triangle? It's usually, yeah, what's
Speaker 2: better for the girl. It's usually two guys and it's
Speaker 2: what's better for the girl.
Speaker 1: This is what we're doing.
Speaker 2: So no, your reasons are, oh, he's he's cool.
Speaker 1: I like him. Doesn't that have Okay, we have to
Speaker 1: allow for that. But to your point, go ahead, No, No,
Speaker 1: to your you were making a good point there, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think it's more of what's better
Speaker 2: for belly instead of what you think of one guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm supposed to be taking this assignment seriously, and
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be looking out for what's best for belly.
Speaker 1: Is what you're telling me. I mean, what was the
Speaker 1: other one, the the werewolf thing, the light Twilight? Okay,
Speaker 1: same kind of scenario. Was it not that we're all
Speaker 1: team this or team that for who's best for the girl?
Speaker 1: Did you you didn't watch those? Did you know Okay,
Speaker 1: So we don't have anything to say on that one.
Speaker 1: So we do know based on friends we talked to
Speaker 1: that third season of Summer I Turn Pretty, there is
Speaker 1: a wedding, Yes, and the wedding is Jeremiah and Belly
Speaker 1: and Belly. You're happy with that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But I know a lot of people who
Speaker 2: watch the Summer I Turn Pretty, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them keep telling me Conrad's gonna get better, like you're
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna like him later.
Speaker 1: So you're leaving open the possibility that there are things
Speaker 1: that could happen, Yeah, that you could that could turn
Speaker 1: you around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe throughout the season, maybe I would prefer Conrad.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now there's one knock against Conrad that you've given us,
Speaker 1: which you said, he doesn't seem to be as into her.
Speaker 1: He hasn't really shown himself. Is there anything else about
Speaker 1: Conrad that you don't like? Is there anything else you
Speaker 1: can point to pinpoint, even if you don't like his haircut,
Speaker 1: even if you didn't like that song he's saying at
Speaker 1: the funeral, whatever it is, can you point to any
Speaker 1: other thing about Conrad aside from that one thing that
Speaker 1: you don't like?
Speaker 2: Not really because I believed I think Conrad is very mature.
Speaker 2: But I think it is a big factor that Conrad
Speaker 2: is actually into Belly, that he is actually.
Speaker 1: Locked in, like Jeremiah said, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry Jeremiah, or whoever she ends up with, I
Speaker 2: think it's more important that she is whoever it is,
Speaker 2: is more into her.
Speaker 1: Ah, this is so interesting here from a twelve like you,
Speaker 1: You're looking at this relationship and looking at those two
Speaker 1: as well. He's the guy who is going after her more,
Speaker 1: putting in the most effort. He seems to be the
Speaker 1: most desperate or wants it desperate nothing right? Would you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. He's going after her, He's putting
Speaker 1: his heart out there. He's showing clearly what he wants
Speaker 1: and to you, for you, that means that's the guy
Speaker 1: for her. Okay, let me ask you this question, what
Speaker 1: does Belly want? In your opinion? Now, if we were
Speaker 1: judging who's right for her based on how they behave
Speaker 1: your answer is, Jeremiah, who should she be with based
Speaker 1: on how she behaves? All right, we pick up the
Speaker 1: conversation here now talking about what a lot of you
Speaker 1: all are talking about right now. Is Conrad and Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Who should Belly end up with on Summer I Turn
Speaker 1: pretty seems wild as hell that I am talking about
Speaker 1: this show that I had to do with literally high schoolers,
Speaker 1: coming of age story if you will, and a love triangle,
Speaker 1: but it is what everybody's talking about, and I end
Speaker 1: up in an argument with my twelve year old daughter,
Speaker 1: like passionate, we don't fight about anything. I don't fight
Speaker 1: with my twelve year old daughter. You know why, because
Speaker 1: she respects that I'm the dad and I'm the parent.
Speaker 1: We don't have anything to argue about. So why is
Speaker 1: she yelling at me? You were literally be what made
Speaker 1: you comfortable enough to yell at me over this show?
Speaker 2: I'm passionate, but it was all in fun.
Speaker 1: But we were passion I'm yelling back, like, how could
Speaker 1: you think that about Conrad? So the question was, yes,
Speaker 1: we know that you think Jeremiah should be the guy.
Speaker 1: Based on the behavior of Jeremiah and Conrad, he is
Speaker 1: clearly more into Belly. Yes, so that's the one she
Speaker 1: should pick. But now let's pick for Belly based on
Speaker 1: how Belly has been behaving and acting in her emotions
Speaker 1: towards the two guys. Now, who's your choice? Whose team
Speaker 1: are you on? Now?
Speaker 2: Well, so Belly has said that she's liked Conrad since
Speaker 2: she was ten years old. Okay, so if she I
Speaker 2: think also deep down she still likes Conrad.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So maybe if maybe she wants Conrad more and maybe
Speaker 2: that's better for her. But also Conrad is more mature,
Speaker 2: I think, and that could I don't know, maybe rub
Speaker 2: off on her because Conrad. Sorry, Belly, she is honestly
Speaker 2: a bit of the problem. Because Belly, she has been
Speaker 2: going from Jeremiah to Conrad, Conrad to Jeremiah the first
Speaker 2: season and a bit of the second season, and I
Speaker 2: just think maybe she needs someone who's mature and comes
Speaker 2: with longer, a longer lasting relationship.
Speaker 1: Boom. But you hear folks, she's team Conrad. I heard it.
Speaker 1: Did y'all hear it? That's what I heard? No, let
Speaker 1: me clarify, please, So your team, you think, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: that's a better way to put it. You actually think Belly,
Speaker 1: from where we are on the show, might prefer Conrad.
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you advise her to follow her heart?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: You would advise her to follow your advice, yes, and
Speaker 1: stick with Jeremiah. Yeah, what do you think? And again, no,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about it. And I remind you here, folks,
Speaker 1: we are only sorry about the hiccups there. We are
Speaker 1: only up to season season two, episode what three? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to cut this off before sweetheart, sweetheart,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, Jesus Christ. We debated about doing
Speaker 1: this episode, and we were delayed in doing it because
Speaker 1: I had severe hiccups that took us at least half
Speaker 1: hour to get under control. I've been over here drinking water,
Speaker 1: holding my breath and literally doing handstands while holding my breath,
Speaker 1: and so being suggested I do the handstand, hold my breath,
Speaker 1: and drink water from a straw all the same same time.
Speaker 1: But I know you all learnedo this show. I obviously
Speaker 1: have to keep watching it. It is a phenomenon, but
Speaker 1: it is a fun way. Look parents out there, adults,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be into the show, but it
Speaker 1: is a very curious way to engage with your kids
Speaker 1: and to be, I guess, really passionate, passionate about something
Speaker 1: that actually doesn't necessarily matter in the grand scheme of
Speaker 1: things of life. But it's a it's an escape, and
Speaker 1: it's fun and there are relationships that are examined, and
Speaker 1: it does have to do with adults and kids and
Speaker 1: relationships with parents and death and grand and just family
Speaker 1: and all of it and coming of Jesus Christ. You all,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, so sorry about hiccups. Well, we appreciate
Speaker 1: Uh Jesus, can you sign all from me here to me?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But really, fuck, we appreciate you as always. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a rare robot episode we've done here. But she
Speaker 1: okay this episode because she knows how much we are
Speaker 1: all into this. But folks, I hope you've enjoyed watching.
Speaker 1: We always appreciate your running with us. But for now,
Speaker 1: I'm TJ. Holmes and I'm home. Sorry, folks, We'll see y'all,
Speaker 1: say