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Speaker 1: present to you. My Money Making Conversation dot Com guests

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Speaker 1: this week all Super Bowl champion DeMarcus Ware discussing this

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Speaker 1: I was Sean donand my next guest knows a lot

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Speaker 1: about committed effort. He's a super Bowl champion. NFL legend

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Speaker 1: de Marcus Square Wednesday, November Wednesday, December nine, this NFL

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Speaker 1: legend announced the launch of Driven to Win as D

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Speaker 1: two D two W Driven to Win, a new fitness

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Speaker 1: app that brings a professional sports workout training experience to

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Speaker 1: anyone with an iPhone. Okay, after perfectives practice, the Marcus

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Speaker 1: now extended his pro level workout techniques to somebody like me.

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Speaker 1: I need help everything winners and nonsense, high performance daily

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Speaker 1: grind that builds leaders I love that part about It's motivational,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people forget that when you're training

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Speaker 1: it really is about building leadership. It's about commitment, it's

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Speaker 1: about being on the daily grind, and that's what this

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Speaker 1: this app is all about. It's a five star app,

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Speaker 1: and that's important. I say that that means that nobody's

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Speaker 1: complaining about it. When they diwaloaded, they get amazing results

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Speaker 1: and they believe in it and they want to share

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Speaker 1: their results. That's why they give it a rating because

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Speaker 1: it brings million dollar pro level fit. Is techniques right

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. The creator of Driven to Win app DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: ware Hey, DeMarcus, hey man, thanks for inviting me on

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Speaker 1: one thing that I really really liked what you said,

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Speaker 1: and that's like the model of this app is be

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Speaker 1: the best you. You use other people platforms and envision

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Speaker 1: on where you need to be. But it's all about

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Speaker 1: building the best you, man. But thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: for inviting me on the show. Well, when I heard

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Speaker 1: the apple was dropping, and uh, I feel that you

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Speaker 1: know we're about to go into that uh you use

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Speaker 1: resolution time. But the year when when people you know,

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Speaker 1: a major part of that. And so what what is

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Speaker 1: it going on and I rushed MC. I got a

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Speaker 1: an interview like you, DeMarcus, Okay, right, I look like

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Speaker 1: an old man trying to work out. Dude. I tell

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Speaker 1: you what, when you hit rock bottom, especially like when

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Speaker 1: to where now they feel good about themselves. And that's

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Speaker 1: where Driven to Win all came about. And really wanted

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Speaker 1: through three D models, augmented reality, artificial intelligence. That's the

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Speaker 1: you own that. Okay, we've we've you know, this is

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but you carry this app on your

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Speaker 1: next guest is Eduardo Jordan's. He was born and raised

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Speaker 1: in St. Petersburg, Florida. Attended college at the University of Florida.

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Speaker 1: I know he'd happy right now because you know, at

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Speaker 1: After graduating with dual degrees in business administration and sports management,

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Speaker 1: Jordan decided to enroll in culinary school that they looked

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Speaker 1: Lookla Cardon, La Carton Blue and on Lando, Florida, and

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Speaker 1: his life shifted from business to food chef. Jordan's twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen James Beard Award finalists and received the prestigious eighteen

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Speaker 1: James Beard of War for Best Chef Northwest and Best

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Speaker 1: New Restaurant for June Baby Restaurant. Currently, his per Mental

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Speaker 1: Cheese is in Whole Foods, mat Market, Kent Market and

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Speaker 1: more to come. Please work with the money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: I'm called a good friend because I've shared the meal

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Speaker 1: at June Babies. I know how good it is. Edward

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Speaker 1: Jordan's all right, thanks for having in. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was funny, man. I was, you know, my wife,

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Speaker 1: our anniversaries. It's in December last year, and and so

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to figure out the place to go.

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Speaker 1: And uh and I said, we know what, yeah, share

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Speaker 1: read reviews on your restaurant, you know, and uh. And

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Speaker 1: your restaurant is really the reason I love your restural

476
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Speaker 1: because it's in the northwest part of the country and

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Speaker 1: it has a Southern menu. Okay, that corn bread, that

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Speaker 1: biscuits and all that. So tell us about bringing a

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Speaker 1: Southern menu to the northwest part of the country. And

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Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody, the place had a line

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Speaker 1: out the door. So I felt fortunate to get in

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Speaker 1: when I got in and this was in the month

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Speaker 1: of December of last year. So talked about that menu

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Speaker 1: coming northwest like that water. Well, you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: classically trained chef. I always dreamed of opening my own restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I now have three restaurants, but my first restaurant,

487
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Speaker 1: it was all about my culinary journey. It was about

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Speaker 1: expressing my whole journey as a professional chef. And you know,

489
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Speaker 1: as I built my platform and had a microphone to

490
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Speaker 1: start speaking, I realized that I needed to do more

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Speaker 1: and share my story as an African American chef. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I opened up the doors to June Baby, and yes,

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Speaker 1: we're about away from the South, but I'm here. I'm

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Speaker 1: here in Seattle, and I wanted to express myself, my ancestors,

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Speaker 1: my mom, my grandmother, all the foods that made me

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Speaker 1: who I am. And so um, that was the birth

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Speaker 1: of June Baby pretty much. I know I mentioned something

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Speaker 1: a couple of things on the menu. Can you break

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Speaker 1: down some of the southern items that on that venue

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Speaker 1: from your standpoint and why you decided to you know,

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Speaker 1: I would say take a risk, but then that food

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Speaker 1: that culinary experience or experience, food experience, wasn't up there,

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Speaker 1: So I have to say it was a risk. But

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Speaker 1: you you put you, but you you did your sampling

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Speaker 1: and you did it. Talk about adding different things and

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Speaker 1: why you did, why I did it. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: there there's so much to it. You know. When when

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Speaker 1: I opened up Jim Bay, maybe southern food was a

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Speaker 1: cool thing again, and all the cool restaurants that were

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Speaker 1: Southern were ramby white male chefs. And what I knew

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Speaker 1: I needed to do is open up a restaurant that

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Speaker 1: represented my perspective as a black man, as a black chef,

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Speaker 1: um from my perspective, from my lens. And so the

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Speaker 1: foods that I ate as a youth is the ones

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to have on the menu and done

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Speaker 1: from a chef perspective, still like elevated Grandma went to

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Speaker 1: culinary school kind of feel. So you'll see things on

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Speaker 1: my menu like neckbones. We tell about pork neckbones, you

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Speaker 1: know with rice. Um, you gotta see chileans on my menu.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see hogma on my menu. And we got

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Speaker 1: some of the Southern classic staples like pimento cheese, and

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Speaker 1: we got like boiled peanuts and fried okra that Sunday

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Speaker 1: fried chicken, things of that nature are there. But I'm

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Speaker 1: also opening people eyes to like, you know, other ingredients

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Speaker 1: that made up the South before the South became commercialized

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Speaker 1: by these franchise restaurants, been a seeds and you know,

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Speaker 1: the birth of various color greens, not just one particular

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Speaker 1: color greens. You got like blue blue vein color greens.

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Speaker 1: You got your Georgia colar greens. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: you know, soft skin color greens. You got your mustard greens.

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Speaker 1: You got to turn up green. So I'm bringing that

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Speaker 1: all to light in this restaurant. And what I tell

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Speaker 1: people is that, like I pretty much put on horse

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Speaker 1: blinders and didn't let anyone distract me. And I actually

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Speaker 1: made the food that I wanted to cook, the food

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Speaker 1: that like my I grew up on, the food that,

537
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Speaker 1: like I knew it was my heart and my soul

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Speaker 1: and more importantly good food though good food. Yeah. Man, Now,

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Speaker 1: like I told everybody when I went up there at

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Speaker 1: last December, the restaurant was packed. The service was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Uh no one out now say that because he knows

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Speaker 1: I just went in as a customer. You know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to. I want like going into an experience

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Speaker 1: where you know, people put extra shine on you because

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Speaker 1: they know who you are and things like that. And

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Speaker 1: the serving the food was outstanding, you know. And and

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Speaker 1: he also they also know I pay for my food.

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Speaker 1: Don't come in looking for he hook up or discount

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Speaker 1: because you're a small business. And with that being said,

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Speaker 1: with COVID N eighteen Hidden Small Bit Special Black Haw White,

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Speaker 1: the restaurant business has been confusing as to how to

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Speaker 1: operate on the covid T. Talk about what's going on

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Speaker 1: with your business right now? Yeah, I mean it has

554
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: been up and down, your blessing and a curse to

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00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: a certain degree. Um, you know, sadly, we did have

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Speaker 1: to close the restaurant down and pivot into the takeout program.

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Speaker 1: Um My, I got three restaurants, like I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: one of the small little Grain Bar, which was kind

559
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: of like the overflow to June Baby right next door,

560
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: serve cocktails and little bites and everything. We had to

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00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: close that down with a small location, so we can't

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Speaker 1: even fit anyone in there technically under the restrictions. So um,

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00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: all the restaurants pivoted in too take out. My first restaurant,

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00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: so Larry. We did um a community kitchen for the

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Speaker 1: first seven or eight months, beating uh, families with food insecurities,

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Speaker 1: restaurant workers and those who are displaced out of jobs

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Speaker 1: for free. We served over twenty six thousand meals for free.

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Speaker 1: And we're still doing um small takes on that along.

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Speaker 1: We're doing takeout. UM. You know. It sucks because, like

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Speaker 1: I lost a lot of staff. I had to lay

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Speaker 1: off a lot of people to actually keep the business alive. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are adjustments and the and the pivots

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Speaker 1: that we had to make. UM. But we're surviving. We're

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00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: doing okay, just because we had to change our business

575
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: plan to a certain degree. UM. I say that too,

576
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: because like there has been so many blessings this year

577
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: in disguise, UM, you know, for from me being able

578
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: to create my clothing line, my Chipling clothing line, to

579
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: getting Pimento cheese into grocery stores, to opening up other

580
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: outlets to bring in revenue to one sustained me personally

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Speaker 1: as a business person, um, and then to to sustain

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Speaker 1: the business so that I do have the opportunity to

583
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Speaker 1: grow when this pandemic pandemic is over Redland. UM. You know, shrink.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm still having a growth um process

585
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: in my head when I'm thinking about what's next for

586
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: me and not trying to like, you know, cuttle up

587
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: and and and sit back like I'm I'm thinking. You know,

588
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I want to be able to succeed after this year. Well,

589
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it that I love about

590
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Speaker 1: talking to a small business person who had to pivot

591
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Speaker 1: is that you've learned some things about your business model,

592
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: some things you would not have made these adjustments. So

593
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: what are the adjustments that you will maintain once we

594
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Speaker 1: get to a sense of normalcy, once the vaccines out

595
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: there and people will re trafficking. Your restaurants there are

596
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Speaker 1: in white neighborhoods. By the way, I want to let

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, his restaurants aren't bury He's African America. They're

598
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: not buried in the black neighborhood. They're in white neighborhoods,

599
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: which were talking about in a minute. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the changes that you had to make and why,

601
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: right huh um. You know, there were a few changes

602
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Speaker 1: that I had to make. The things that I will

603
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: keep in alone run and the restaurant industry, we we

604
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: survived on very thin razor thin margins. And so our

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: biggest costs to date is always our labor. So you know,

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Speaker 1: one thing I had to look at is either lowering

607
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Speaker 1: the labor in the long run or increasing the revenue

608
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: um and so means to to be able to balance

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Speaker 1: that out. Like we didn't we weren't a takeout restaurant before,

610
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to implement take out into our

611
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: normal business plan in general moving forward, UM, so that

612
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Speaker 1: we can at least if we're gonna keep the same

613
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Speaker 1: staff that we have the revenue to maintain that staff

614
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Speaker 1: and also build a better profit in the long run.

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00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: So there's those are those are some of the auxiliary

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Speaker 1: things that we are incorporating into our business plan also

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Speaker 1: like the retail aspect um adding it in more catering projects.

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Speaker 1: So it's all about, you know, bringing in more revenue.

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Speaker 1: At this stage now, we're trying to maintain that same

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Speaker 1: business costs um. You know. Other than that, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're analyzing like what our costs were before and like

622
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Speaker 1: how we can shrink those costs down, Like how can

623
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Speaker 1: we run a restaurant less full service but still offer

624
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the same type of service? Is that better training? Better

625
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: education for our staff so that can be more efficient.

626
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: Are we bringing in more technology into our restaurant now

627
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Speaker 1: so that we can make ordering and and reordering and

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Speaker 1: in service and a little bit more streamline. Those are

629
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Speaker 1: all the things that we're thinking about and implementing right

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Speaker 1: now and to the restaurants to make it sustainable. Right

631
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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting because you know a lot

632
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Speaker 1: of small businesses you see that that take out of

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Speaker 1: that to go principle and the change, you know, because

634
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: they understand they understand that model. When you're a small business,

635
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't want to like, you know, you want

636
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: to fight the whole that that that that flavor, that tastes,

637
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Speaker 1: the authenticity of the experience, and sometimes you're afraid they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, my chicken tastes good at their house,

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Speaker 1: and I could potential to lose them as a customer,

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Speaker 1: of being a successful owner not only a chef, but

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Speaker 1: do love that. And so, but talk about your experience

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Speaker 1: being a uh young man coming from the South going

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Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, I'll tell you what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're so young. I'm like, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: It's like, this is like what I want to do

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Speaker 1: the University of Florida. I got a degree in business.

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Speaker 1: I understood that, like it's it's hard work, is dedication,

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Speaker 1: I'm cooking behind the stove. That's all I do. I'm

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Speaker 1: I come with a smiling face and ready to conversate

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Speaker 1: And so like there's a whole business like build into

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Speaker 1: I should have wore one today. But I have a

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Speaker 1: I'll be bringing on some other items. But chiplands have

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Speaker 1: blows your mind. First of all, for those who like

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Speaker 1: don't know what chiplings are they pig intestines. You know,

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Speaker 1: rid of and said the slaves need to eat. You

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Speaker 1: And when I talked about chiplands as a kid, I

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Speaker 1: And so you know, some thirty years later, when I

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Speaker 1: loud about chiplings because that is part of my heritage.

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Speaker 1: So child has been on my menu since day one

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Speaker 1: bigger story that need to be told, and so I

851
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: probably start putting Chiplands on the shirt. And then people said,

852
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I want that shirt, I want that shirt, and so

853
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: I literally went to a whole trademarking process, got the trademark,

854
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: and now I have a Chiplands line of clothing. Um

855
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: and we're we're probably talking about chilings because it's more

856
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: than just the food now, it's the story. Is the history,

857
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: is the perseverance, is the the ingenuity, it's all of

858
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: that that people are people. Many people eat chiplands and

859
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, across this world and in some fashion, but

860
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, just talking about my history and my folks,

861
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: it's just like what they had to do to make

862
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: chiplings into something right out of nothing, to feed the family,

863
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: to feed the country, growing cotton and rice and and

864
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and schucking okrah and setting it and getting nothing out

865
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: of it, Like you know, this is this is like

866
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: just paying hommage and and paying respect and showing love.

867
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: And it's more than the food now, So it's a story.

868
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 1: It's a great story. And now are you a white

869
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: rice and hot toss chilings eater? That is a straight

870
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: classic for me. I heard like everything else like potatoes

871
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: and things like like I'm straight rice, hot sauce, put

872
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: some pepper on that. I love chidlings and so and

873
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up in a group in

874
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: the hood. Man my dad would go, Uh, he was

875
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: a truck driver. He'd go in the country because we

876
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: live in Houston, Texas, living the wood. He going get

877
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: get a good hog, and they bring that hog home.

878
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: We may hog a cheese. You know. I had to

879
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: all the ham, all that stuff. We made that pig

880
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: fee wait to pick pig? Is we are we? Of

881
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: course we did the chidling so that hog. I don't

882
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: think that hog left that house. I think seeing me

883
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: in and uh, it left. But you knew when we

884
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: got to the to the chidling part. Everybody in the

885
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: neighborhood knew what was Everybody knew because you have to

886
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: really and also when you talk about that, you really

887
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: do have to clean it out. You have to clean

888
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: that because you know it can get you. You can

889
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: get sick if you read. If you as they said,

890
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: you eat chiplands that have been cleaned properly, and stuff

891
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: like that bar properly and things like that. So it

892
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: really is a science to all of this, and that's

893
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: why I wanted to make sure. And I'm kind of

894
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: mad at you because now I gotta go online and

895
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: get when I could have been up there and took

896
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: a photo with you, we took together, because the hell

897
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: of chipling T shirt up, shirt up, a hoodie on.

898
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely gonna order one online because that's exciting

899
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: to me because I'm a big fan. And I tell

900
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: my staff I eat chidling, they go that that's what

901
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: I got as a kid. It don't FaZe me, bro,

902
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: don't't FaZe me. I forgot cracking. Now it doesn't FaZe me. Now,

903
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't face me. I think like as a kid

904
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: and not like even teaching my little boy now, it's

905
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: just like, don't be afraid of your history and your

906
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: story because like as a kid, I didn't know how

907
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: to defend myself at that right. And now we give

908
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: our we give some fire, we give some weapons now

909
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: to be able to professionally, um defend ourselves. Now in

910
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: our history. Let's talk about the pimento cheese, which I

911
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: did sample at your restaurant, which was fantastic, like savage,

912
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: tell you what, when we sat down, we ate, We

913
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: went through this, We went through the menu, just enjoying everything.

914
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think children's I wasn't seasonal.

915
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they were want the menu at the time.

916
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: But but other than that, we tried everything and enjoyed everything,

917
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: and and and and the whole experience was the service.

918
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: But now the Perimential cheese tell us how they got started,

919
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: how to became a secreature dish, and how did you

920
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: get it into whole foods and met market and kid

921
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: market totally? Um wow. That the secondary part was the

922
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: whole processor get into the retail store. But but Pimento

923
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: cheese for me was just like you know, it was

924
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: that iconic Southern spread. You know. You you got like

925
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: your your Hawkhead cheese breads that you can have sometimes,

926
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: and you got your Pimento cheese, um, and Pimento cheezes.

927
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows Fimento cheese. Everyone had it. Everyone goes

928
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: to that corner store, even the grocery store in this

929
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: out and there's like five different Premento cheese and um,

930
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: and I've had a ton of pimento cheese in my lifetime,

931
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: but nothing really impressed me. So my mission was like,

932
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the pimento cheese on the menu. It's

933
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the best pimento cheese out there. And um,

934
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: when I developed the recipe, I knew it was a winner.

935
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: And um, you know we've had them I mean you

936
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: again from day one like chiplings, and people requested it,

937
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: they like asking I get tubs of it? Can I

938
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: when are you gonna get this in the hood the

939
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: grocery stores. And when COVID hit us in the pandemic

940
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: kind of slowed us down. Um, I was already in

941
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: talked with Whole Foods by doing like we're gonna do

942
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: the special event with the pimento cheese, and so they

943
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: pretty much held my hand through the whole process of

944
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: getting it into Whole Foods. And we're locally here in

945
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Washington and Oregon state right now and we're working hard

946
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: to find a copacker that we can get into California

947
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: and then go nationwide. So um soon soon to be

948
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: soon to being here back down South Texas in Atlanta

949
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: the Georgia and South Carolina way. But long hey, when

950
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: I say that when I say that secondary process is

951
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: so hard. It's so hard to like jump to that

952
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: retail retail aspect of consumer goods. There's so many loops

953
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and hoops that you gotta go through. But we're we're

954
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: working hard to get it nationwide within the next year.

955
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a chef Jordan and twenty seventeen James

956
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Beerer and Award winning finalists, and we received the prestigious

957
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: eighteen James Beard Award for Best Chef off the West

958
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: and Best New Restaurant for June Baby Restaurant. That's where

959
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: I dined with my lovely wife and had a great time.

960
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: And I love the baby. To say that, you know,

961
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: they'll be able to say, I went up to Seattle, Washington,

962
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: and you know it's been a weekend out there and

963
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: done at your restaurant. That's one of my favorite travel stories.

964
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: And and and and and building your brand out. You

965
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: know that we're talking about the perimental cheese, We talked

966
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: about the child lin line, were talking about pivoting and

967
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: and doing things that you were stuffing about doing from

968
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur standpoint, you said, Hey, this is how I

969
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: want my brand to be. Be a served and now

970
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: you realize, okay, it still would be served that way,

971
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: but were now with options and uh, and options allow

972
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: you to be So I like the fact I like

973
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: about the permental cheese and I like about the T shirt.

974
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: I call that mailbox money. You know, people lie by

975
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: your T shirt you get checking the mail. You know,

976
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of what you're trying to do with

977
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: your brand, and that's why you're growing. That's why I

978
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: can't wait till it. You know, you expand and cut

979
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: down in the soft with that perimental cheese, because that's

980
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: amazing mailbox money. But the old law man, uh, you know,

981
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: we we know what what as a black business owner

982
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: and the PPP checks was supposed to be distributed out

983
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: there to a small business owner. How does that affect

984
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: your business? During the COVID NATI, were you able to

985
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: participate in p P P or what? Yeah, I mean

986
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: it was a scramble at the beginning. We we missed

987
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: the first round. And I say I'd say that lightly

988
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: because we did everything proper inappropriate to get that loan

989
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: and so like we were literally pulling our head, our

990
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: hair out. I'm saying, like, what are we gonna do.

991
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: Luckily they had a second round we got to prove

992
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: we didn't get a proved from as much as I

993
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: thought we were going to get a proved for UM.

994
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: And that was a kind of a turning point for me.

995
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: I realized that as a business owner, a small business owner,

996
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: as a minority business owner, I could not depend on

997
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: anyone else saving my businesses. And I needed to do

998
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: whatever I needed to do to be creative enough to

999
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: keep my businesses alive. And that's when we're like the

1000
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: pivoting started happening hard for me and making the proper

1001
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: adjustments to to to be a business person. Um. And

1002
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: I didn't depend on the government to bail me out.

1003
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: And and some people need that like that's it's it's

1004
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: the curse of two thousand twenty. But like I didn't

1005
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: want to be part of that curse. I wanted to

1006
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: actually capitalize on this opportunity to to be a really

1007
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: good businessman. And we've done well despite this pandemic. Um.

1008
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've had many opportunities. I've actually now

1009
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: became owner of all my businesses. Congratulations in thousand you know,

1010
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go back years from now and say

1011
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: like doing a pandemic, I was able to become a

1012
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent owner of my businesses. Like that's mind blowing

1013
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: from me. But yes, we've had some hurdles, we had

1014
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: some hiccups. Um And like I said, this gear has

1015
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: been a blessing and a curse. But it has taught

1016
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: me a lot. I've grown a lot, I've seen a lot.

1017
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Well cool, Well, I did something during the pandemic. I

1018
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: bought me a building in Atlanta. They go office building,

1019
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: the one acre property stand alone, and then it has

1020
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: a full kitchen. That's why I love this Building's a

1021
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: full kitchen oven, it's everything, you know. And so I've

1022
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: been inviting favorite chefs like you over the over the

1023
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: past few months, saying, hey, I love to do a

1024
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: zoom zoom. You cook something, I cook something if you

1025
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: have times no pressure, I love the I love to

1026
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: cook some chiplings in my office and got all my

1027
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: staff out. You're gonna gonna run them out of the office.

1028
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: And why I don't care. I don't. I don't care

1029
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: a running about my office. You could be in Seattle, Washington.

1030
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: You cook up. They're waving me off, not the child list,

1031
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: not the childlers. But I love to dothing else. I

1032
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: love for us to do something Vias. Yeah, that's awesome

1033
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: and congratulations with you. Yeah yeah, because that's what I mean.

1034
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm having fun with my life. Man, I'm having fun

1035
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: to be able to speak to people I would call

1036
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: a friend, to call your friend because of your businessman,

1037
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: you're entrepreneur. You're understanding that they are some setbacks, but

1038
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: they don't beat you. They don't let them win. And again,

1039
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: like you said, you've taken control of your voice, your business,

1040
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: your brand. And I had to do the same thing.

1041
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: You know. It's like you know, I I buying this

1042
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: building and allow me to finally stamp my resume of

1043
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: what I can do and what when people are comfortable,

1044
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: I can comfortably people coming to my space and they

1045
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: walk in the door, they go wow, okay, so the resume,

1046
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: They see the MS, they see the image Awards, they

1047
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: see these posters of autographed famous people are managed over

1048
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: the years or been associated this year. And that's all

1049
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: you're doing with your brand. And so so I want

1050
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: to thank you for coming back on the show. I

1051
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: know we missed last week, but do one of my

1052
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: favorite man. I love you, man, I like I support you.

1053
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I need to get a link for the childling t

1054
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: shirts baby Seattle dot com. Now not all the Pimento

1055
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: cheeses that being shipped cannot be a b We're working

1056
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: on getting that ship so like in the meantime, you know,

1057
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: give us about a month so we can will we're

1058
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: starting to get a process to get that shipped out

1059
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: to nationwide. But let us team know immediately and then

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Speaker 1: did it affect your life? Del Sigma Theta, You know,

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Speaker 1: it had a huge impact on my life and um

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Speaker 1: even prior to me pledging in college, because I you know,

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Speaker 1: pledged at Berkeley Kappa Chapter. And uh, when I think

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Speaker 1: back to even my childhood growing up, the women that

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Speaker 1: progressive they were, how involved in their in they were

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Speaker 1: in our community, how professional they were, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and not only successes, but struggles and you know, feats

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Speaker 1: and obstacles that they encountered as well. I think just

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Speaker 1: the main impact that it had on me growing up

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't like I came from a family, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, or a legacy within my family,

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Speaker 1: uh that were part of sororities and fraternities. But like

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Speaker 1: I said, the woman that I was able to uh

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Speaker 1: I got to college. And then when I got on

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Speaker 1: you know, for their families and the community at large.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, very impactful. Uh love my sorority sisters, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know because I I graduated from University Houston,

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Speaker 1: which is a predominant black white campus, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: five thousand. And it's really funny because you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're going you went to a school like me was

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Speaker 1: a dominant white attendee exactly, and so you know you

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Speaker 1: had to look core blacks. You know, they looked like

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Speaker 1: at album did you really say? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: it was like maybe black students on campus at time,

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Speaker 1: and it felt like it was ten thousand of us.

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Speaker 1: And the experienced to you, you know, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, while we were there and the outphas had

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Speaker 1: they had a campaign represent campaign that still stands out

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Speaker 1: in my mind even though it was so many years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I still have the T shirt to prove it.

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Speaker 1: But walk around loudly because because I mean, our statistic

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Speaker 1: then was less than two point three percent of the population,

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Speaker 1: and like you're saying, it felt like so many of

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Speaker 1: us because we're just a dynamic force. When we congregate

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Speaker 1: and come together, it could be two five you know,

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Speaker 1: we're two or more are gathered. It's really that philosophy.

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Speaker 1: And I think in our community and we're so dynamic

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Speaker 1: what we actually are representing in numbers. And I think that, like,

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Speaker 1: it's comprised of, the ability that we have to have

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Speaker 1: so much of an impact, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and create this dynamic force even with so many, so

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Speaker 1: few of us, you know, representing in its particular space. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I knew you would relate to that with that whole

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Speaker 1: idea of us, you know, you see, like it was

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Speaker 1: so many of us, And did you realize when you

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Speaker 1: looked at the number, there's not many of us at all?

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Speaker 1: That many? You know, when I look back at the pictures,

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Speaker 1: like it felt like there were so many, like you said,

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Speaker 1: so many of us, but nevertheless the impact was just

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Speaker 1: as great. Carry out the ship and you know, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, KAPA chapter is the tenth chapter

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Speaker 1: out of our sorority to be founded in nineteenes one.

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Speaker 1: When I think about it, black women were on the

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Speaker 1: campus of UC Berkeley, not just going to school, but

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Speaker 1: formulating the chapter and the sororities in the early nineteen

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Speaker 1: hundreds at an institution like that, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pride and in heritage that come along with them. Awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're in the middle of a pandemic. I say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we thought it was all gonna be short term,

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Speaker 1: and and then we talked about high unemployment rate, we

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Speaker 1: talked about we need a new stimulus check, and then

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Speaker 1: Black Friday comes around and Uh, it's nine billion dollars

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Speaker 1: and the online sales, Uh, with Black Friday drop in

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Speaker 1: in store traffic. We all knew that why that was

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Speaker 1: when I when I look at everybody's talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: over thirty thou all these numbers, where is this money

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Speaker 1: coming from? Ms Collins? Well, you know, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I think that it's a huge disparity, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And even in the information that

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Speaker 1: only about one point six percent of the corporate stocks

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Speaker 1: in mutual funds that were held on the market, while

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Speaker 1: white held or ninety percent of that value, which means

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Speaker 1: that as the Black community, we weren't able to capitalize

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Speaker 1: on that some tom gain of the SNP since March,

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Speaker 1: you know, So that is a huge, I think component

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Speaker 1: for us to pay attention to. Even when it comes

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Speaker 1: to ownership wealth, the wealth gap that is also prevent

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Speaker 1: as if you know in that over time, even with

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Speaker 1: rising amongst whites and blacks. That's just really sad because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that so basically you're saying Riy Shard, Look,

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Speaker 1: Really they always gonna keep money or they have money,

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Speaker 1: and that's why you see their basically arise in Black

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Speaker 1: That was right, right, you know, and so and so,

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Speaker 1: which is really important for people understand that. But I

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Speaker 1: look at African Americans the technology game, you know. That's

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Speaker 1: why I mentioned the fact that three point six billion

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Speaker 1: of that was smartphones. Have we yet as a community

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Speaker 1: started to understand the value of what that smartphone really

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Speaker 1: think that as a community we are we have the

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Speaker 1: could capitalize on that market. But it's not all It's

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Speaker 1: not about having the wealth or the knowledge that I

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Speaker 1: mean we always have that we throw on the quote

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Speaker 1: knowledge is power, But I really believe knowledge is power.

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Speaker 1: But it's not empowerment, you know what I mean. You

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Speaker 1: can read all the books and read all the articles,

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: but if you're not empowered to be able to take

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Speaker 1: on or or to be able to take the opportunity

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Speaker 1: within what's going on in a cycle, then it really

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Speaker 1: is not going to have any sort of long term, sustainable,

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: durable effect within our community. It's not gonna be widespread.

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Speaker 1: So we may understand on the surface what the impact

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Speaker 1: of this technology sector is having on our lives and

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01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: our society right now, but are we able to participate

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Speaker 1: and partake in the benefits of that opportunity right now?

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: And for me or my understanding of that, it's it's

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: it's deeper than what's on the surface. You know, it's

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: rooted in so many different, uh disparities you know that

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: are systemic that blacks long term or for really our

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: existence within this country, have not been able to partake

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Speaker 1: in or at an equitable level that prevents us from

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Speaker 1: being able to capitalize on certain opportunities in certain mic

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Speaker 1: market cycles. Well, you know that they always always bring

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Speaker 1: that up because you know, whenever I do an interview,

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01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, people are always talking about budgets. You know,

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Speaker 1: we were in the fourth court. We are in the

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Speaker 1: fourth court about the close out this year. The advice

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, I doubt various if they pass

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Speaker 1: a new stimulus package, and if they don't pass a

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Speaker 1: new stimulus package, you know, you have what you have.

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Speaker 1: We have the CDC SIN you can delay the payment

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Speaker 1: of the rent. Well guess what that delayed payment is

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01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: due in January holiday tax that don't trump was was trumpeting.

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Speaker 1: You know that bill is going to be due by

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Speaker 1: April one. So you have all these delays. But how

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: can we overcome that? How we don't just wind up

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Speaker 1: filing bankruptcy which is unheard we're used in the black community.

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01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: How do we get over that financial hump without help? Well,

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, I really think

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01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: that help is something that is a dire need within

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: our community, you know, not just in our community and

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: our society period. And we know that any sort of

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: problem does not become a national crisis until everyone is affected.

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, these same struggles, the struggles that our nation

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: is experiencing right now, Blacks have been experiencing this, you know,

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Speaker 1: for decades. So now that it's become a national problem,

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01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: of course there's national help and national attention, and to

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: some degree we will be the benefactors of that. But

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Speaker 1: it just it to me. It just reiterates the importance

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01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: of always having a plan and being mindful of what

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Speaker 1: your strategy is and positioning yourself to be able to take,

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01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, advantage of opportunities. Because every market moves in cycles.

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: The housing market moves in cycles, Education moves inside goes,

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: the stock market moves and cycles, and what goes up

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01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: all eventually comes down. You know that we no one

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: has a crystal ball of when that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But for instance, when the markets were at all time

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Speaker 1: lows in March, how many of us were able to

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01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: were prepared to be able to actually take advantage of

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Speaker 1: those opportunities, you know, to be able to buy things

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: at such a low or discounted rate so that it

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Speaker 1: sets you up to have more of a sustainable future.

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Speaker 1: Things that resources that you're able to tap into in

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Speaker 1: circumstances like this. So yes, I definitely think that, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're at a point now where so many people do

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Speaker 1: need aid and assistance that there there really is no

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Speaker 1: way around that. Absolutely. And I'm talking to Andrea Collins's

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Speaker 1: or fifteen years of experience and the investment management industry.

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Speaker 1: She began her career mortgage Stanley Wealth Management. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know stock, that's I've been dabbling in stock, you know

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Speaker 1: when I first started, you know, he said, you know

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Speaker 1: by the stock that you shop at. You know, if

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Speaker 1: if you go to home deep or a lot, by

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: your stocking home deep or you go. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you if you buy Apple computer, buy your stocking Apple,

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: or day everybody stocking dail. There are some common sense

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Speaker 1: um rules that once you do when it comes to

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01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: being a novice or entering into stop game, because of

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Speaker 1: just planning on your experience, because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: that's what you do right right. I would say for

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Speaker 1: anyone that's just starting out or a novice investor, the

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Speaker 1: main thing that you need to make sure that you

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: pay attention to you or incorporate into any sort of

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Speaker 1: investment plan, and many of us have heard this word before,

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Speaker 1: is diversification. There is no there, there's no full proof

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Speaker 1: method to investing. Of course, the risky or your investments

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01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: are the more you put yourself at You put yourself

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Speaker 1: on an opportunity for high gains but also very very

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Speaker 1: low lows. And so having diversification or make basket basket

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: of assets basically hedges you against those risks and really

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Speaker 1: prevents you from losing everything that you've invested in one

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Speaker 1: fails swoop. So when I say diversification, I mean types

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Speaker 1: of assets that you own, you know, so whether it's

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Speaker 1: real estate, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, CDs, or money markets

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Speaker 1: or any other sorts of cash equivalents, which right now,

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Speaker 1: with interest rates being at an all time low, you know,

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: high investor checking the accounts or CDs money markets are

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: really not paying that much nothing, nothing, And that's not

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: a black community on the community of color used to

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01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: stash their money and some exactly. So there are you know,

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Speaker 1: there are are all cash equivalents or alternatives in an

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Speaker 1: environment like this, you know, so, uh, you do lot

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Speaker 1: tapping into your resources. Of course, there's a boatload of

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Speaker 1: information that's on the internet that's readily at our fingertips.

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Speaker 1: But you don't know what you don't know, you know,

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: so the knowledge out there is endless. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what you don't know, you don't

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: even know what questions to ask. You don't know where

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: to begin. But that's the importance of professionals like myself

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: in our space. I feel like we have a duty

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01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: to disseminate that information amongst our communities, to make sure

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Speaker 1: that our our community is knowledgeable and abreast of what

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Speaker 1: their options are and what resources are available. So yeah,

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: diversification is the main thing, making sure you're not heavily

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01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: uh allocated in one area over the other, so that

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Speaker 1: when you do experience the ups or downs in either

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Speaker 1: sector or asset class, it's able to sort of balance out.

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier. How to you know, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear all these dire statements about the economy this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, firstly we lockdown for two months, and then

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Speaker 1: it was complaints that the six hundred dollar Care Act

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Speaker 1: check was really paying people more than what they had

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Speaker 1: made in their daily income, which is absolutely true. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to add to that that is true. My daughter,

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Speaker 1: you know, she made like fifteen hundred dollars subways, she

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Speaker 1: could have applied for the six hourly cares. We can

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Speaker 1: walk through the ten thousand, two undred dollars that was

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Speaker 1: the total amount of payment. So I agree that that

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Speaker 1: the in the rushed moment in America needed it because

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Speaker 1: we shut down in the rush time, in a dire time.

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Speaker 1: But we're always wonders to me, and you just kind

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Speaker 1: of said that earlier about you know, we was set records.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think amount of July. You know, the

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Speaker 1: stock market set a record. How could that be when

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Speaker 1: you have millions of people being unemployed and then you

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Speaker 1: have people filing for unemployment and then the stock market

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: is just dancing up and down like it's everything's cool, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, we have to really realize that

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Speaker 1: a huge part of what's portrayed even in the media

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Speaker 1: and wealth within our country, our economy, and mean wealth

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Speaker 1: meaning the average wealth you know of the black investor

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: or black American is about a hundred forty two thousand,

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: whereas the mean wealth of the average white American is nine.

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: So the huge disparity shows the opportunity and who has

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity to partake in those type of uh events

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: or cycles. The money is there there while there's a

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Speaker 1: I mean, and we even saw this how split the

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: country is during this election. There there's a huge part

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: of our country that is suffering. And then there's a

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: huge part of our country that has been had the

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Speaker 1: ability or the capability to work from home without a

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: disruption and income, you know, work from home and they

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: still have access to the internet, work from home and

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Speaker 1: they're still able to contribute to the four oh one case.

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Speaker 1: Fidelity put out a report recently that so many of

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Speaker 1: their four oh one K plans or investors that they

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Speaker 1: actually are the administrator for have not not only crossed

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Speaker 1: the million dollar mark for the first time in US history,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of four oh one k UH investors

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Speaker 1: or plan holders that Fidelity it serves as the administrator

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: for UH, they've actually crossed that million dollar mark. And

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Speaker 1: you asked the question, like, how is that possible in

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Speaker 1: a country that's so divided, where so many people are

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Speaker 1: depending on government assistance, you know, not only for their

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 1: next meal, but for housing, for utilities, and but yet

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Speaker 1: most people, even though they have the capability to tap

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Speaker 1: into their FO one K without a penalty this year,

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01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: have not taken any loans or distributions, or those that

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Speaker 1: have has been very substantially low or not exceeded what

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Speaker 1: they actually really really need. So again, to me, that

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Speaker 1: just shows a huge economic disparity within our within our country,

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Speaker 1: and even amongst the middle class. Now a term I

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Speaker 1: always get confused about financial literacy when I do that,

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Speaker 1: what is financial literacy? And I know you involved in

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Speaker 1: financial literacy and how can a listener educate themselves on

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Speaker 1: being financial financially literate? Well, you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: when it comes to financial literacy, and yes, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I have taught many, many courses for organizations, for for

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Speaker 1: elementary schools, um even for high school students, and it

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Speaker 1: never fails. With each class, I have more than one

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Speaker 1: student telling me how come no one ever taught me

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: this before? How come I didn't know this? Or where

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: can I find out more about this? And then you

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: have the few in the class that they're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a stock portfolio or I know about this,

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Speaker 1: And it really has nothing to do with race. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say one or the over the other, you

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But some children are exposed, but

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, a lot of them are not

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: exposed to just the basics of financial literacy. How does

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01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: a bank account operate? You know? How do you pay bills?

1483
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: How do you with some mortgage? How does lending work?

1484
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: How does credit work? And then you get into the

1485
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: more nuanced part of financial literacy, which comes to wealth

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: management or investing in the stock market, and how how

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: does that part of the economy work? Um, And I

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: think before you even move into that portion, just the

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: bare basis of managing finance, the practical application of what

1490
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: it means to be responsible, to be a good steward

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: over what your resources are, how much ever your resources are,

1492
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: to actually be a good steward and manager of what

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: you have. I think that's a huge thing that is

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: lacking um not only in the educational system, but within

1495
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, our families, and the transparency of that. You know,

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01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate in my life economically and been able

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01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: to handle money correctly, but really, and I say this

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: to myself personally. I remember I was mentored by a

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: gentleman and he would just tell in Rouschan, just put

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month and that's all about I said,

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: about years old at the time. And so it really

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: is true. If you if you start early in life,

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: start very early, you can put up put these put

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: aside small amounts that would benefit you long term if

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: you're consistent with those small amount deposits, whether it's a

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a moth or fifty dollars a month, versus

1507
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: trying to catch up when your forties and fifties. Talk

1508
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: about that that algorithm of just you know of the

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01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: dollar cost averaging compounding right of how of how just

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01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: a small contribution, uh once it compounds over time. And

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01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the part that many don't realize. Yes,

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01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: there are people that have large inheritances or they receive

1513
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: a trust fund, but for the average American, it really

1514
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 1: just boils down to time and work, you know, and discipline,

1515
01:17:54,760 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: inconsistency and doing having that discipline and consistency over time. Time.

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: Like you said, such a small amount fifty dollars, if

1517
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: you were to start that for a child or even

1518
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: you know how Corey Booker is what proposed the baby bond,

1519
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: where every child born receives a thousand dollars at birth

1520
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: and by the time they're eighteen it should compound into

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: about fifty dollars or so, which you know, at eighteen

1522
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: years old, if you have that access to that type

1523
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: of capital, what can you do? You can go put

1524
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: a down payment on a home, you know, the path

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: to homeownership, we know is a huge component of generating

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: generational wealth, you know, which so many in our community

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01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: do not have access to. So just starting with such

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: a small amount and allowing that amount to compound over

1529
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: time I'm not saying being an investor or a guru

1530
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to being the greatest latest stock picker.

1531
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: It's it's more so about the longevity and your time

1532
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: horizon horizon and the ability to withstand certain market cycles,

1533
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: and eventually you will benefit from those games. Of course,

1534
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: there will be ups and downs over that time. When

1535
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: it's down your time and rights and you give yourself

1536
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: you you have the ability to to to capitalize on

1537
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: those games. Because we're talking about the cultivation of wealth,

1538
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's the whole process. Because like I said,

1539
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, I look back at my life and I went, man,

1540
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't have pulled out there. I can tell you I

1541
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: owned the Intel stock at one time. I owned the

1542
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: home depost stock, owned the Apple stock. I owned all that,

1543
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: you know. But I was I was one of those

1544
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: guys who danced, dance. Oh that's that's moving fast, and

1545
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: I just didn't sit there. I remember, uh, you know,

1546
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: Virto stock was a twelve hundred dollars I could have

1547
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: that was like fifteen years ago, and I could have

1548
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: gotten in, but I went that stopped too high. I'm

1549
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: about twenty dollar Kmart stock, you know, And so really

1550
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: it's about knowledge and information and that's when it gets

1551
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: you to you know, cultivating wealth with information and knowledge.

1552
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about, exactly. And then also

1553
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you you shouldn't have the pressure to

1554
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: put you shouldn't put that pressure on yourself. You know,

1555
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: there are professions. I was, well, I'm one of those people,

1556
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, don't trust nobody but myself. Okay, but cultural right, right, right,

1557
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: because we have to we know we we we're probably

1558
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: with the vaccine right now because it's exactly and so

1559
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: so you're saying from from rush and stop burden yourself,

1560
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: create a relationship with an expert, and that's who you are.

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: You are an expert. Talk about yourself exactly exactly, So

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, that is one thing I think you know

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01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: that there's there's so many different paths to lessening this

1564
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: wealth gap, you know, between black and white. And I

1565
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: hate to make it about black and white, but really

1566
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: that's what it really is about, you know, a huge

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01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: part in this country. Um. But of course there's policy

1568
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: and then there's there's a reform that can help close

1569
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: that guy and there's also cultural things that we can

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01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: do as a community. And one thing that we are not.

1571
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: We're not we're not really transparent when it comes to finance,

1572
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, within our within our families, you know, amongst

1573
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: our friends, even amongst professionals. There's there's always some wall

1574
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: or some barrier or something that you don't want to

1575
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: fully disclose. But oftentimes it stifles us, you know, because

1576
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: we don't share the information. You know, we're not transparent

1577
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: about what we know and what we don't know, and

1578
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: it can be a hinderance or services an obstacle to

1579
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: really really achieving because we were not transparent about what

1580
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: our needs are or what we have or what we

1581
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: like to achieve, you know. So yeah, and the trust

1582
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: factor is huge within our our community. So there are

1583
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: cultural barriers to the wealth disparity as well. So with

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01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: that being said, you know, trust factor, knowledge, financial literacy,

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01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 1: What really is stunting ability to achieve wealth in the

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: black community? What really, if you have to put your

1587
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: finger on it, what is really stopping us? You know,

1588
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: it's such a dynamic and wicked problem, so to speak,

1589
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote, because if you look at it systemically, you know,

1590
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: over time there have been obstacles or barriers that have

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01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: been put in place for us to not be able

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: to partake in certain societal gains that basically enhance the

1593
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: black middle class. Like if you look at the beginning

1594
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,520
Speaker 1: from the eighteen hundreds, when freedman savings and loans collapsed,

1595
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: then that is what started our mistrust in the banking

1596
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: system when that collapsed. And then the late eighteen hundreds,

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01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: insurance companies had like explicit discrimination when it came to policy,

1598
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: so any Blacks that own an insurance policy, our policies

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: were only worth one third of what a white policy,

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01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: white person's or white Americans policy was worth. And of

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01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: course in the nineteen hundreds we know Black Wall Street,

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01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: you know in Tulsa and the destruction of that. And

1603
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: then in the thirties there's redlining, and then you go

1604
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: into the disparities or with social security and how black

1605
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: domestic workers and farm workers weren't able to qualify for

1606
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: Social Security. And then you get into World World War

1607
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: Two when black veterans could not like explicitly take part

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01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: in the g I Bill. So like there's been systemic

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: things over time or over hundreds of years that have

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01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: perpetuated this divide, you know, and then not to mention

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01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: with all of that happening home ownership, like I said

1612
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: in the beginning the conversation, is one of the major

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01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: paths to wealth preservation um inter generational wealth transfer across

1614
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: our entire nation. So I think maybe in the beginning

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, over seventy of white Americans owned a home,

1616
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: while less than forty of Black Americans own their actual home.

1617
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: So home ownership m in eradicating sort of like those

1618
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: type of policies that have prevented us from being able

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: to be on a consistent path to home ownership, I

1620
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: think is one of the hugest or most pervasive problems

1621
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: as far as intergenerational wealth transfer, not to mention income

1622
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: inequality and then the educational disparities and really damages even

1623
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: more because it caused roughly four or six of the

1624
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: black owned businesses to close and prevent them for reopening.

1625
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: So what it believes that when you go to a bank,

1626
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna look at you like when they had the

1627
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: PPP out there, we were the last to get it

1628
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: or didn't get it at all. So it's about race

1629
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: and overcoming race. And I always tell people you overcome

1630
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: racism by created relationships by going to a bank instead

1631
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: of just cashing your check, ship down with the loan officer,

1632
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: the trust because people can, people can give you some

1633
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: things and tell you, I advise you how you can

1634
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: slowly grow into a loan building relationship. I'm not saying

1635
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna go in there and get you a hundred

1636
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: thousand dollars off the top, but maybe get ten pay

1637
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: back that ten, then that becomes twenty. And I think

1638
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: that people need to understand that growth happens over over

1639
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: a period of time of time. Exactly. It takes time.

1640
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: It takes time to cultivate relationships, it takes time to

1641
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: show um your ability. And and you're buy it, you

1642
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're buying into the situation. You're

1643
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: buying into pro rest. All of that takes time and

1644
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: cultivation and intentional cultivation. Well, you know, Andrea, I want

1645
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: to appreciate you coming on the show. You know, I

1646
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: can actually talk to you for another thirty minutes because

1647
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: I really because you know, you know, because you know,

1648
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: as much success as I claim to have, I'm learning

1649
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: and that's important. And also I'm willing to reveal my

1650
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: mistakes and I think that's that's the gift that you

1651
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: have to be able to allow me to sell have

1652
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: been comfortably lay my head on the couch with Sean,

1653
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: what did you make the mistakes? Well, when I was

1654
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: twenty four, I should listen to Paul and he told

1655
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: me to deliver fifty dollars a month, right right, right right,

1656
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: you know exactly, and somebody else have that history within

1657
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: our family, you know what I mean, Like I'm in

1658
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: this industry, but a huge part of my success or

1659
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, progression is being transparent about what you were

1660
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: taught and you know what I mean, and what lessons

1661
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: you've learned along the way, the mistakes that you've made,

1662
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 1: the things that have been passed down mindsets when it

1663
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: comes to money and finance within my own family, you know,

1664
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: and addressing that type of those type of conflicts. So

1665
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: and then moving past it. Cool. Well, I want to

1666
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations College. What

1667
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: does the al stand fund? Alan? Let's Sean like a

1668
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: southern name right there, LUs Sean, right there, But no problem,

1669
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: Berkeley Grad doing your thing. Please get back on money

1670
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: making Conversations. Thank you, most definitely. We'll be right back

1671
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: with more from Sean McDonald and money making Conversations don't

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Speaker 1: touch that doll. What grows in the forest trees? Sure

1673
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,800
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1674
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: our sense of wonder, and our family bonds grow too,

1675
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: because when we disconnect from this and connect with this,

1676
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: we reconnect with each other. The forest is closer than

1677
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: you think. Find a forest near you and start exploring.

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1681
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1682
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1683
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1684
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Speaker 1: Now introduce you man, you just sat down the girls.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I put the

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Speaker 1: I see the pitch in the background, all that good stuff, Curtis,

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Speaker 1: How you doing that? Sir, Mr HBCU, Mr BT, Mr Producer, Mr.

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Speaker 1: Had a great weekend. I gotta tell you what shot

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Speaker 1: is honored to be on your show. That I've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot about the show, and i know you very

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Speaker 1: well man, and I'm looking forward to diving into conversation.

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Speaker 1: See if we come up with today. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is that we've talked previously when

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Speaker 1: you we we sat down and talked about the brand

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Speaker 1: of HBCU and how I can come into, you know,

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Speaker 1: help grow this brand. And it excites me because HBCU

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01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,799
Speaker 1: was I didn't go to an HBCU school. I graduated

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Speaker 1: from university Houston, right down the street from Texas Southern

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Speaker 1: University and Third War Texas. So I appreciate that. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate my passion and what I'm trying to do and

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Speaker 1: what I want to use the skills that God gave

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Speaker 1: me is what I'm bringing to the table, and that's

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Speaker 1: marketing in Brandon, That's something I do very naturally. And

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Speaker 1: when I look at a brand like HBCU, which for

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Speaker 1: some reason and twenty has exploded on the landscape, why

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01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: do you feel that you know it's been struggling that

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01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: funding every year, Congress, do you want to fund it? Then?

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Speaker 1: And then you know, President Donald Trumps is taking claim

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Speaker 1: for like resurrecting HBCUs. If it wasn't him in twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen in September, it wouldn't be an HBCU finding program

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Speaker 1: happening right now. Why HBCUs being so popularized in Well,

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01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I think that you know, with all the unrested had

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01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: in this current time, looking at where there should be

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Speaker 1: some growth and where there should be some responsible But

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01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: I think if it peels back to the HBC circle,

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01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: and I think when people really dive in and really

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Speaker 1: look at what HBC schools have done over the years

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Speaker 1: and creating some of the great educational folks, political folks,

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Speaker 1: and attain us UH sports athletes. The whole nine yards

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01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: has now become a better appreciation across the board for

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Speaker 1: what these schools have met. And now you know, more

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Speaker 1: people are looking at it, you know, not one sided

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Speaker 1: that it had been looked at for a while, because

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Speaker 1: when you look at the great thing about the hbc

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Speaker 1: US in the sixties and seventies, that's only where African

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Speaker 1: Americans could go to. P w s would be predominant

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01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: White institutions got very smart and said, look, especially on

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Speaker 1: the athletics side, you know, we got to start incorporating

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Speaker 1: more of the African Americans into our schools. And because

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Speaker 1: they could provide the visibility that African American schools could not,

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01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes jumped the board. But now what's

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Speaker 1: happening is, you know people are understanding, look, it ain't

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01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: all about the money, It's more about the experience. And

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01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: then we can start really you know, pushing more of

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Speaker 1: the experience of hpc US and really show people who

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Speaker 1: have come out of there, who has survived. You know,

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Speaker 1: that I think is really gonna be icing on the

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Speaker 1: cake and I think now that it's become very apparent

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Speaker 1: that these schools are playing prominent role in educational African

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Speaker 1: American kids. You know, more more people now start to

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Speaker 1: pay attention to saying, we've got to have more HBCU stuff,

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01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and we've got to spend more time in driving the

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Speaker 1: value and exposure of the schools. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that I'm trying to do HBC you go TV. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know the vision leading media eliminating the voting experience

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Speaker 1: of the hundred and seven hundred and four that accredited

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Speaker 1: hbc US. And then the mission is to increase brand

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Speaker 1: awareness and support the sustainability of HBC USED by making

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Speaker 1: a meaningful financial contributions to the population of these American

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Speaker 1: institutions of higher learning. There are two days, a vision

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Speaker 1: and the mission HP HPCU go TV. How did they

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Speaker 1: start though? Talk about your career? What gives you credibility?

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Speaker 1: You just hopped on the machine. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: know you with h and I think one of the

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Speaker 1: day one of the things that helped me tremendously the shines.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on the campus of Suchial State University.

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Speaker 1: My mother taught there for forty years. The father worked

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Speaker 1: there for fifty years in the maintenance department. So I

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to be in the bloodline, and I

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01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: ended up my mother graduating from such a state and

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Speaker 1: I ended up graduating from such a state, and also

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Speaker 1: my sister graduated for Sin State. So I had the

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Speaker 1: experience of you know, coming and living and being part

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Speaker 1: of that blood line of hbcs. But then when I

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01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: got into the marketing side of the media business, and

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Speaker 1: I worked for a cable system for many years, and

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Speaker 1: I worked for ESPN, and then I got into b

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Speaker 1: T right, one of the biggest things I saw was

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01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: the lack of exposure for these universities because no one

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Speaker 1: really was really trying to help. In my old days

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Speaker 1: of BAT, when I came on the we really were

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Speaker 1: the anchors behind that college sports and we did that

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01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: for almost ten years. But then, you know, we were

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01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: ahead of our time and our guys didn't know really

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Speaker 1: how to sell it. And coming out of ESPN, you know,

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01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: and being a sports nutter, I was really pushing black

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01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: college sports like there was no no tomorrow. Because when

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01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: I first came on board to BT, we were we

1849
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: were doing a week long tip take delay I'm the game,

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Speaker 1: and I found its bob to do live games, you know.

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01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: And then finally we just got out there where the

1852
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: advertising world couldn't really understand black college sports and they

1853
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to put money, and so it didn't enable

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01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: us to continue with it, but we knew there was

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01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: a value there, and that's where other services started to

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01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of debundant. And now ESPN has jumped in it.

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01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: But what HBC, you go, was gonna do is that

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01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna be a part of that because you know,

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01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: as I've told the HBC schools is like, you know,

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01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: why are you letting just one network control your visibility

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01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: when you look at the Power fives and you look

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01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: at you know, other conferences they got two and three

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01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: media partner absolutely town. You know, the the commissioners are

1864
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: getting smarter. They're looking at the ways in which they

1865
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 1: can drive expose you're look at bait more. They ways

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01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: they can you know, bring revenue to the universities, to

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01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: their presidents. And so the doors starting to crack. And

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01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: now with HBC you starting to pick up some top

1869
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: name recruits like Howard picked up making the basketball players

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01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 1: seven footer. Uh, there's others, other players have gone on

1871
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: different places that have been top recruis and now the

1872
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: doors starting to slide open, and which is gonna make

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01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, these schools become very very attractive now on

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01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: the agency go but to other people because they want

1875
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: to see these young this young talent, and they're also

1876
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to really expose themselves to some

1877
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: great talent. At the end of the day, let's talk

1878
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: about this stay in the sports lane. Because we talked

1879
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 1: about SEC Conference and Power five. I'm a software swack guy.

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01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: You know Texas Southern Preview, Grammars Southern or the whole

1881
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: area over there. That's me. Then I find out that

1882
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: but Dune Cookman is coming to the Swack. Then I

1883
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: find out fair Mute is coming to the swap. See

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01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: that's that feels like the Black SEC to me. And

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01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. Really, you know, I was

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01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 1: just trying to Charles mc cullen, who is the commissioner

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Speaker 1: of the SWAG, and I think you're right on point.

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01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to convince the conferences almost eight

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01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: years ago because I was really the one that brought

1890
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: black college sports to ESPN because I was consulting with

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01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: him at the time, and I was the one behind

1892
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 1: the Swack of the MEI Challenge. I ended up in Florida.

1893
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: But one of the things I was trying to convince

1894
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: the a f C schools early on was to make

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01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: a power coverence, but they just couldn't get it. But

1896
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 1: now you're right, I think that SWACK is on something, man,

1897
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: And then I think they're building something that's gonna make

1898
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: it very, very track. And I think what's gonna happen

1899
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: is Swack is gonna be decomference that everybody's gonna look

1900
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: at it, you know, as far as really doing sports

1901
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: with and see if they become one of the power

1902
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: you know it within black couge sports, and I think

1903
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 1: they will. I'm just gonna depict up, like you just said,

1904
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: film come with family, you know. And I think there's

1905
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna be others that's gonna sprinkle a little bit with powerhouses,

1906
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: even in in in the middle level compass who are

1907
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 1: doing well, who's gonna try to sneak in and really

1908
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: try to make it a strong compass before us all

1909
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: over we're talking about it. I think that's the opportunity there.

1910
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about legacy football programs, athletic program, band program.

1911
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: You talked about band fam mute what I'm saying. But

1912
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 1: we're already knowing the squad has always had the Grambling

1913
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Southern game. There has been broadcasts for years on NBC,

1914
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's always been like the Notre Dame game

1915
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: on NBC for black sports. And so there's already media heritage,

1916
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: media media lineage for the squad program. And I loved

1917
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of like it because we have to start being

1918
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 1: smart and realize we have economic dollars. If you want

1919
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: to get the recruits, then you have to generate energy.

1920
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: If you're saying, man, the Swack is the best place

1921
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: to come, or you're gonna be the best athletes. That's

1922
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: what's happening right now Jackson State. That's all they deal

1923
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: with with deal. Come on, that's all I'm saying, that Swack.

1924
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: That and that's spark ability right there. I mean, that's

1925
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: spark ability. So you can talk to both champ coaching.

1926
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, his son, his same his son. What else

1927
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: can you ask for them? His son, who was a

1928
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: four star recruit was just d D R D committed

1929
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,480
Speaker 1: from the Florida school not going to Jackson State. And

1930
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: he was incredible, and I think that's the train you're

1931
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna see on that astondomy. I think that, you know,

1932
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna be it's gonna be many more like that.

1933
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna start, you know, drifting into because look,

1934
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, man, these young folks in football, basketball,

1935
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: they want to get to the level right right right now.

1936
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. And and if we're able to

1937
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: begin to start showing them through HBCU that you can

1938
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 1: get there, right, I think that's gonna be the doing.

1939
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 1: And I think now the way the direction is moving,

1940
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, more and more kids will realized. And look,

1941
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, I asked the question to h. Jalen Rose

1942
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: years ago when when the Fab five you know uh

1943
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: tape came out when they did the Fat five ticket,

1944
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: and I said, Jayden, if you would have took the

1945
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: Fab five to an HBCU, do you think there have

1946
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: been different to taken it to Michigan? He said, man,

1947
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: because I never thought about it like that. I said, yeah,

1948
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: because all you want to do is get to the

1949
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: next level, and I want before when it does, that

1950
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: was before one and does. So now you take that

1951
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: same model and move that into an HBCU, everybody would

1952
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: want to come televise them, right, everybody would follow him, right,

1953
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: and they would they would become the team and the

1954
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 1: HBCUs that everybody jumped on, right, you know, the no question.

1955
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: So with the the the the rays of awareness of

1956
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 1: Jackson State with with a Dion for example, right, only

1957
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 1: opens up more doors to HBCUs and and that and

1958
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: that's what we got to start taking advantage of it.

1959
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: The biggest thing that we've got to take advantage of

1960
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: the Sean is Dad, We've got to move the hbc

1961
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: U schools into thinking business and not just education. Right,

1962
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest things that I'm trying to

1963
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: work Come on the hbc you got, I'm trying to

1964
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:34,480
Speaker 1: constantly bring them ideas of how to grow the enrollment

1965
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: through bringing in some businesses that will support them in

1966
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: order to grow the enrollment. Because that's not the way

1967
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: they think going in the door. Well, here's you're absolutely right, Uh,

1968
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football is what drives there enrollment. Pinn State, Alabama,

1969
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: University of Texas, these are usc all, these are prominent

1970
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: programs the drive enrollment. And it's really is interesting because

1971
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:07,839
Speaker 1: the academic success of HBCUs is uncortionably an amazing story

1972
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: in itself that they're not even recognized because what because

1973
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: the athletic program, which were the dominant voice in the

1974
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: sixties before integration happened. And you know that, Kurt, You

1975
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: know that. The way about black athletes and Hall of Fame,

1976
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I think it's over thirty two hpc u UH players

1977
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: who are in the Professional Football Hall of Fame. And

1978
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: so so now let's look at that. Now. That's why

1979
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: I think it's important that the Dion Sanders is at

1980
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 1: Jackson State because again he's gonna he's gonna bring an athletes,

1981
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: which means that the fan base and the alumni base

1982
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: will get re engeneral, re energized. And that's what which

1983
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: which is needed because right now let's talk about let's

1984
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: talk about a spc US they know for the band

1985
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: and if they got a good football team, and then

1986
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: the academics is third. And I think what happens is

1987
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: as black people, we always fight that monicer that we're

1988
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: more than just athletes, were just more than physical objects.

1989
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: And so that's the fight that you were talking about

1990
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 1: right now is exactly we want to be able to

1991
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: recognize for our intellect and not because we could entertained

1992
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: and not because we can perform on an athletic platform.

1993
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 1: And so that's the dream that's You're right on point. Yeah,

1994
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: that's that's what you's like with my my personal myself.

1995
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, I've been trying to show young man and

1996
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: young ladies like listen, I came out of the state

1997
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: with a physical education major, PE major. Right, I've been

1998
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: a marketing guy since I've been in the business thirty

1999
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: some plus years, and I said, I'm going into the

2000
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: biggest hall of fame of the media industry, broadcasting and

2001
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: came on next year, if blacks going into a Hall

2002
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: of fame major, let me bring that up. Don't be

2003
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 1: just just throwing out that information. That's valuable information. That's

2004
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: one of my questions. Let me set that up, just

2005
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: jumping out there just casually throwing that out. Now staying

2006
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: interviewing people that know more information and just be putting

2007
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: it out ahead attack we're stealing eight pc. You Now

2008
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: you have jumped into this legendary honor that you're getting

2009
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, well since year. Open your mouth, Curtis,

2010
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: tell us about this honor that you're getting in twenty

2011
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's one of the biggest the opportunities you

2012
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: can get in media talk about that. You know, I

2013
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I mean, you know, it's you know, it's

2014
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: it's always honor when you have your colleagues, you know,

2015
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: nominates you as one of the best in the business.

2016
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: And I really one of the things that has been

2017
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: my my real headache over my years is that I

2018
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: never really taken advantage of my network like I should

2019
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: have had more. People always say to me, hey man,

2020
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you realize how much you bring to

2021
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: the table, and you undervalue yourself a lot. Well, this

2022
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: honor Rashan next year is one that I've been seeking

2023
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: for like the last twenty years because I thought that

2024
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I gave a lot to the industry. And one of

2025
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: the things that I wrote a part of a book

2026
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: I wrote a while a couple of years back called

2027
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: It's a Gamble and Shot HBCUs are show beat within

2028
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: that I talked a lot about during that time. Rashan.

2029
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think we all get,

2030
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 1: we all have an overside us is not recognizing and

2031
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 1: dealing with our family the way it is because your

2032
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: family is all you have, man at the end of

2033
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: the day, so you have man, And my family went

2034
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: and fought with me thinking thin. You know, I put

2035
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: my family at times, and it's a roust box because

2036
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm working night and day, traveling all the time, missing things,

2037
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, And you know that's a big thing now

2038
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: to me. And so to be honored and see all

2039
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: the sacrifice of my family went through in order for

2040
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: me to obtain and honor like this next year, it's

2041
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 1: big for me. Man, It's very big for me. And

2042
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: also too, you know, have many of my peers who

2043
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: have now called me and said, Man, this is averdue. Man,

2044
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: you should have got this thing a long time ago. Man.

2045
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just shocked that it's taking this long

2046
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: agein and I give him. You know the I forgot

2047
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: it was uh in the NFL who it took him

2048
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: a long time. You know, I just said, listen, you

2049
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 1: know the whole thing is I thought I was taught

2050
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: to be patients. You know, patients is the world of life.

2051
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 1: You know, if you know you've done something right, somebody

2052
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 1: would reward you down the road. And so you know

2053
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: this reward is you know, the tip of the iceberg

2054
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,640
Speaker 1: in the industry, you know. And I didn't realize how

2055
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Speaker 1: big it was until I saw all the people who

2056
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 1: got honored in front of African American like Oprah, Bob Johnson,

2057
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm and I'm like the third within

2058
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Speaker 1: all of BT to get honored, you know. Uh So

2059
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2093
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2094
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:48,960
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2095
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: we all know, you know, no one is really watching

2096
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2097
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01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: that you know, in my audience that I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: reach out to, which is the HBC students and alumni,

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Speaker 1: and we're trying to get to you know, must contual

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Speaker 1: audiences to be involved with it. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of this world is watching everything on the computer, the

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Speaker 1: phone and the iPad, so less cost. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't have to buy a big dish to to get

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Speaker 1: my network up. You know, I could just do it technology.

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Speaker 1: But it was a lot less cost. And that's really

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Speaker 1: what it boils down to you. I mean, in today's

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Speaker 1: brother to build a linear network like a BT, it's

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Speaker 1: cost you millions and millions of dollars where to do

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Speaker 1: a digital network. You know, I don't need a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have it, but I could get it

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Speaker 1: up without having to spend a ton of money to

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Speaker 1: get it up and go and keep and keep productive.

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01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: So and that's really what it's all about, you know.

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01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: And so if you can make your program, you can

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Speaker 1: grow your content as you're building it. That's really kind

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01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: of the theme where you want to go with. So

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01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: what is your content or is it categorize? How is it?

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01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be honest. You know, HBCUs recognized for

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Speaker 1: the athleticism, the sports program recognized for those bands, those

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Speaker 1: marching bands at halftime dominate the landscape. And then academics.

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01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: So what is consist of educational program And we're doing that.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a masterclass program with UH Tennessee State UH

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Speaker 1: that that's been one of our charter schools that we've

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Speaker 1: been working very closely with because really the programming that

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Speaker 1: we're trying to create is they have the students create

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: programming for the network and then we're doing some lifestyle programming.

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01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: We've created a show with Charlie and Neil called what's

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: next with Charlotte Neil and doing very similar things you're

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 1: doing there with your podcast of interviewing people in the

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Speaker 1: ABC circle, around the HBC circle or you know, graduated

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01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: from an HBCU who are doing things in the community

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01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: or in business who can help enlighten us on how

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Speaker 1: to move forward. And of course, like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're doing we're doing HBC Sports right now. We're doing

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Speaker 1: it on a lot of tape stuff material that we're getting.

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Speaker 1: We hope to try to have some large sports in

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Speaker 1: one and we'll see what what comes about, you know,

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01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: in regards to that. And then we're trying to create

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01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: other programming around um, you know HBCUs that people would

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Speaker 1: really relate to, Like we have a black quiz show,

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01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 1: uh that we got from Don Jackson and the Chicogogmy.

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01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 1: He gave us twenty six episodes, uh, that we're working

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Speaker 1: with that. I think it's all around HBC is because

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01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: some of the questions are really tough. You know, I'm

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01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: about to show a couple of times and I'm trying

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01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 1: to figure out the answers to some of these questions.

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Speaker 1: Is that the version hosted by Nephew Tommy yes, yes,

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01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: exactly exactly about a few times, you know, and they're

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: doing well for us. And then we have another another

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01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 1: show that we picked up with Zenny Garrison and uh

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01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Channon Ruben, which is really all about social justice, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's a game set Chat's what it's called. And

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01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: they talked to a lot of tennis professionals about the

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01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 1: whole thing about injustice and dealing in the black and

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01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 1: white world. You know. So it's slowly but surely picking

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01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: up programing. Our goal in one is the least be

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Speaker 1: able to do two hours of original programming, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll start adding more as we go. Okay, cool, So

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Speaker 1: here's another program, money Making Conversations. You know, we want

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Speaker 1: that bad you want You're on the dock, you on

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Speaker 1: the doc top show. Because here's right now. He's the

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Speaker 1: thing that I love about what's happening with Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation and the interviews. I got an interview Kenny Lord,

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Speaker 1: you know, are the tip of lifestyles out of using

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Speaker 1: text Heath from Tennessee State University. If the UH last week,

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Speaker 1: the people who created Christmas clause Clarence clause, you know,

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Speaker 1: young black couple and black couple, you know both of

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Speaker 1: them graduate from HBCUs and so it's really interesting how

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Speaker 1: granular the relationship has been. So me being able to

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Speaker 1: provide content and so now I built, I bought my

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Speaker 1: new office building in Atlanta, so and so now now

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Speaker 1: I'm doing video like I told you I would, and

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01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: so this is this, this is the program, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be able to bring I'm building out the video wall

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Speaker 1: to the right of me and so, which means that

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Speaker 1: I'll be able to get even bigger talent, even bigger relationships,

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01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: but more important, exposing the entrepreneurial value of HBCUs and

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01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: also being able to give you quality programming because that's

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Speaker 1: what sales. Even though if I can get to celebrity

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: HBCU people on my show and get them on your network,

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: then guess what you be able to market and brand.

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01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: They become the face. And that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: That's how that's I'm I'm for anyone listening to the

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Speaker 1: Sean Show right now, let me just say this, I

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Speaker 1: am very, very very excited to have building relationship when

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01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: the great brand masters in the business. With Sean McDonald,

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01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 1: I think that having him part of HBCU goal is

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Speaker 1: going to be explosion for us one, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to marketing, building the brand and really working side

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Speaker 1: by side with him to really grow you know, his

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Speaker 1: show and really grow our partnership to show number one,

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01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: to show people we can work together. Number two, to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of this network that he's building of all

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Speaker 1: the people in the ABCY circle, so that, as the

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Speaker 1: earlier mentioned, we can build something that everybody can be

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Speaker 1: proud of down the road. That's really the goal, right,

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Speaker 1: that's really the goal, and that's really what we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do, you know. And it's it's amazing. We gotta

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Speaker 1: you know, our president and vice president elect, which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: How Howard University a K A member question. You know,

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Speaker 1: people go where she really black? Where with the Howard?

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Speaker 1: She got enough black going on in our life. He's

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Speaker 1: a a K for Gerardi. She went to Howard University,

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Speaker 1: she grew up in Oakland. We just stopped. We just

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Speaker 1: stopped right there. That's that's that's enough, that three black

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Speaker 1: powerful relationship that we can stop talking about. You got

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: you got that right, You got that right, And that's

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01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be very powerful. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna jump on. We're gonna get her one day

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01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: on your show because she's gonna understand how powerful you

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01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: are in the market. And when she ring to the

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Speaker 1: table and she going on, everybody, let's to your message

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Speaker 1: some more, we go. I can see you grabbing up

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Speaker 1: very so when we have an earndball, we're talking about Powell,

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Speaker 1: you know, Walter Payton, you know, Rested So, greatest running

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01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: back in the history of football, professional football, Steve McNair,

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Right, the greatest wide receiver all the

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Speaker 1: time qualifier, Michael stray Hand, you know it's Oprah Winfrey

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Speaker 1: to Roger P. Hanson, Anthony Answer, stephen A. Smith. The

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Speaker 1: list goes on and on common you know. And that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing. But Sean, that you're talking about

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: that are young people are totally unaware of, totally unaware of.

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01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: I was of a group of young folks all back

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Speaker 1: right before about a year ago, right for the viruship,

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01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and was talking to them about black media and mentioned

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Speaker 1: Earl Graves's name, right, and no one in the room

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01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: knew who Earl Graves was. No one, And I said,

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Speaker 1: how can you be in a communication journalism department and

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: not know who Earl Graves is But that's because and

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Speaker 1: this is one of the things that I'm getting on

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the communications partners in the HBC circles, saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: you gotta quit preachings from the book and start educating

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Speaker 1: these people on the history, right, so they understand when

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01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: they stepped by the door, who they are and who

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01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: created the landscape for them, right who you know that

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01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 1: even who really created this is sad to see how

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Speaker 1: the Johnson publication Brandy without Jet. You know, you and

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01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: I both know we grew up with Jet. Oh and

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01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 1: don't call Jay beauty. Jay beauty was a black man's dream.

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01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Come on, now, you know. But you know what's what's

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01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 1: what's sad behind that shown is that I said it

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Speaker 1: a lot of Bob meetings with Bob, and I had

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Speaker 1: to get Bob piece of credit that back in the

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01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: early days of BT, Bob went to a lot of

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01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: those folks like the john Agent of the world. I

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01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: was in those meetings and asked them to partner with

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Speaker 1: him so that we could create a conglomerate, right, And

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01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: everybody was caught up in their own silos. Man, they

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01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 1: were like, oh no, I don't need you it's like,

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01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: are you serious. You know, but that's the thing that

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01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 1: we have to un uncapped. I mean, we gotta start

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01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: showing how we can work together, how we can drive

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Speaker 1: business and get more people involved in the circle so

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Speaker 1: that we can have a conglomerate that could grow and

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01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: people say, oh wow, they're doing something out there that

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01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: that that's powerful out there. They're sending a message out

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01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: there and they're working together to make that happen. And

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Speaker 1: so let'sen. Let's go back to why we got on

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Speaker 1: this call. HBCU go dot tv is the website ABC,

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Speaker 1: you go on Real Coup now. Now you gotta have

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Speaker 1: real coup to get to it, right, Yes, yes, but

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: we will have it. We will have a new app

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01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: out very soon, within the next three weeks that you'll

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Speaker 1: be able to pick us up right on your phone

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01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: and the app will be mainly connected to our website. Right,

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01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 1: so you're gonna be able to follow us closer. Well,

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01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: that's the key because you if you start downloading and

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01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,879
Speaker 1: then if people start rating your app on your download

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01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: the experience, then that's when you win. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about right now. Now let's go to the

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01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: target audience. For we wrap up their primary of the

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Speaker 1: millennials eighteen to twenty four. The secondary is the alumni,

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01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 1: which is forty nine and right. So that alumni is

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about because out there the influencers for

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Speaker 1: the young people. Because if we build a brand of agent,

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01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it the word week because I can't

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01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 1: get into conversation, act like I'm outside. If you build

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Speaker 1: directing it right, because we're influencers. Because influencers are key.

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Speaker 1: That's what that twenty five for the night, and it

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Speaker 1: really is for the nine to seventing and beyond because

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Speaker 1: the grandparents and the legacy influencers. That that's the part

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Speaker 1: of it. Man. I mean, we put together a football

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Speaker 1: game years ago in the Bahamas, were the first ever

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Speaker 1: to do it. We put together Bahama hbc U Go

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Speaker 1: Bahama Football Classy. We brought Tennessee State, I mean Texas

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Speaker 1: Southern in to play Central State. And what was amazing

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Speaker 1: was we put ten thousand people in the fourteen arena

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Speaker 1: within the within two weeks because they wouldn't they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: give us the rental to a week before. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is to your point when we

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Speaker 1: started interviewing some of the people who attended, the generations

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Speaker 1: that were tied together was amazing. I mean people would

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Speaker 1: come in and say, when my grandfather went there, my

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Speaker 1: grandmother went thereha went to my father. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: generations was unbelievable. And that's what makeing hbc so strong.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't know that, right. But

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Speaker 1: then that's why I'm excited about. I'm excited about when

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Speaker 1: we got the call and talked about what you're trying

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Speaker 1: to do because I see it. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I'm a visionary, but I know that when I see

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Speaker 1: what's happening with the SWACK becoming my my with my field,

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Speaker 1: the football version of the SEC. When I'm saying when

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Speaker 1: I see a Dana Sanders his brand going down to

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