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Every single 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.960 week we sit down and we welcome in and talk 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.039 to the hostess of this show, the New T Shirt Queen. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.360 But we'll get to that in a few minutes, the 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.959 one and only, my great good friend. Very happy to 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.360 have her on to talk to her today, the Queen 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:53.280 of Victory. Fancy, Good morning, Good morning, very long intro 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.720 for you there, Sorry it was very long. I thought 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.080 the show was over by the time you had done. Yes, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.080 So how are they Francine, It's been a minute since 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.320 you and I have seen each other. Yeah, we haven't 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:10.600 really talked much last week. I haven't really wanted to 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:16.000 talk to anyone this week. I did a lot, a 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.160 lot of text messaging. A lot of damning has been 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:24.960 going on. So for for those of you who don't 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:34.200 know Shannon Sproul Daphne, she committed suicide last week on 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:40.600 September second, and I I you know, I talked about 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.000 it on the last show. I just told a little 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:50.320 bit of the story. You know, I've been I've been 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:55.920 sitting here last week trying to think of what could 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:00.160 have been going through her mind, like at that the 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:06.960 final moments, if you go back like a month, that 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.520 was our actual like the longest conversation before she died, right, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.440 and it was a good one. It was a good one. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.920 We would have conversations and some days they would be 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.680 great and I would let her know, this was a 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.960 great conversation. You made me very happy today. If it 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.440 was a sad conversation, I would always end it with 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.280 you know, I'm always here for you. I love you. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.000 A lot of crying would happen. This one, there wasn't 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:42.280 much crying. She had just started working for a elderly 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:47.720 couple as a caregiver and the gentleman that she was 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.160 working for was kind of starting to lose it. She 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:55.480 wasn't sure if it was dementia or Alzheimer's, but the wife, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.080 I believe they were in their seventies and the wife 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.560 still worked. So Shannon took on a lot of the 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.360 responsibilities for the gentleman, and she would also help the wife, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.920 like if they needed to pack for a trip, get 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.880 his medications, take him to an appointment, stuff like that. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.360 And she was spending a lot of time with this gentleman, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.760 and it was filling a void for her because she 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.279 was so lonely and she had friends like she you know, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.560 she had me, she had other girlfriends, but none of 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.719 us lived near her, so she was always alone, right, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:31.680 And she was thinking about moving in with this couple, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.840 and because they offered her a full time position and 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.440 they said, you can, you know, live with us, and 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.600 her situation at the time, she had a roommate and 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.520 she was living in this big house, but gentleman who 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.960 owned the house wanted to sell it, so she wasn't 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.599 sure where she was going to end up. And she 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.120 was on edge about that because she's like, you know, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.239 where am I going to live? And all this stuff. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:59.040 So I found a sense of comfort that she had 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.240 this couple wi over her, so to speak, and she 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.280 was finally going to have somewhere stable to live. She 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.200 wasn't going to be bounced around. She had a steady 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:14.760 income for once, you know, seemed optimistic. She was scared, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:19.440 but she was also very optimistic. And I found a 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.680 sense of comfort in that. And we talked about it 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.080 at length, and she was very she was happy. She 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.640 was she was it was a good day. It was 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.360 it was a great conversation. She was very happy, and 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.919 we always ended it with I love you, Chicky, I 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.200 love you too. That's how we always ended our conversations. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:43.120 And that's the last time we actually talked. And then 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:48.680 life goes on, and two weeks went by and I realized, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.359 oh my gosh, I haven't talked to Shannon. And I 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.640 called her and she didn't take the call, and she 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.320 texted me back and she just said it's she said 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.400 something like, it's very icky here. I'm not doing well. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.919 And I just said, well, when you have a chance, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:10.480 call me back and we'll talk. And that was the 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:16.120 last message I got from her. And so another two 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.200 weeks to go by. And here's the thing about Shannon 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:24.440 and my relationship. I know when she's having a good day, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.120 and I know when she's having a bad day. And 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.560 when she used to have her bad days, I always 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.599 gave her her space. I always because sometimes she didn't 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.800 want to talk. And when she did want to talk, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.400 it would be constant crying. But I would just be 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.680 either listening or we'd be on video and we'd just 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.039 be there for each other, you know, And I would 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.039 listen and it would be for hours, and she would 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.520 just sit there and cry. So I knew when I 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.760 texted her if she didn't want to talk to me 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.360 at this time, she would call when she was ready. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.680 And two weeks went by again she hadn't called, and 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.560 I yeh like it was. It was a little strange 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.520 because I would at least get a text message from her. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.960 I got nothing. And the day that Wednesday of last week, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.320 before I wait, hours before the IG thing happened, I 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.840 shot her a text and I just told her I'm 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.800 thinking about you, you know, and I want you to 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.560 know that I love you and whatever I said. And 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.920 I don't even know if she read that, you know, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.520 that was like in the afternoon sometime. I don't I 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.000 don't know if she read it. She never got that 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.960 same day, it was, yeah, it was the same day 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.920 before the IG thing happened. So it was it was 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.200 like mid afternoon maybe something. And then that night I 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.400 was just I was sitting, I was with the kids 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.720 and we were just sitting, you know. It was like 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.040 I don't know, seven eight thirty something like that. I 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.720 don't know what time it was, and I get a 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.720 text message you have to go on IG. Shannon's on there, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.760 and I said, well, what is she doing? Oh, she's 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:01.720 talking about killing herself. So I started to panic, started 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.360 to panic. I started to shake. I couldn't even like 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.080 tap the IG button like, I was shaking so bad. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:15.280 And when I got in there, I just I saw her. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:20.360 It was her, but it it wasn't her like it 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.640 what I was watching just didn't. It didn't seem real 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.520 to me. It looked like she she had such a 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.480 haze like her face just looked glazed over to me. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.319 And it wasn't the Shannon that I knew because I could. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.319 I always talked her down, always talked her down. And 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:49.280 this time I watched, I watched the numbers go up 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.600 and up and up. So people must have been saying, oh, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.160 Daphne's trying to kill herself. You know that. That bothers 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.600 me so much because when that girl do a live 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.480 but she had eight people in there. I remember, I 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.360 remember you saying that to me before were nobody watching her, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.240 And now because she threatens to kill herself, everybody wants 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.319 to jump on board. Where where were all these people? Right? 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.880 I mean we've joked about that, you know, we've joked 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.840 about that too. I'm sorry I said we joked about 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.839 that too, where you know, it's like you you you 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.880 could put a call out, say hey, why don't you 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.040 join me, let's chat, let's this, that nobody responds to it. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.080 But something like this happens, and yeah, it was like 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.360 the phone went nuts. I mean I was getting nine 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.079 thousand text messages about it just to see what was 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.240 going on. It was. It was unfortunate that exactly what 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.360 you just said, do you go on live and would 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.680 be would be eight people, ten people, and then this 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.640 and it blows up. Yeah, there there was no And 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.720 I'm not I'm not sitting here saying she didn't have 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.760 people who loved her. That's not That's not what I'm 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.120 trying to say, right, No, understand, Iri to launch a 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.920 YouTube channel. She tried to launch her Twitch channel, and 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:02.240 she nobody watched her. And now she says, you know, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.640 she's talking about her lance ball and testament and the 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.040 numbers like she had over thirteen hundred people watching her 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.120 at her darkest hour. And so you know, I noticed 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.600 some of the boys were in there. And when I 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.240 say boys, girls are included in that too, because you know, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.400 we were all frantically just typing and calling and her 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.959 phone was going off. I mean I could hear I know, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.040 I know what her text message of sounds like, because 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.000 I mean, she's been at my house several times. I've 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.280 been in the room. I heard it going off. I 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.920 heard it going I heard it ringing. I was calling. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.200 So many people were in that room. I started to 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.959 type in caps, and I know that's annoying, but I thought, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.760 maybe if I type in caps, maybe her eyes will 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.360 say it. She'll say something, she'll realize I'm here. And 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.600 she was leaning in and she was swinting, and she 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:01.400 was reading, and she's like, oh, you're all y'all so nice, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.760 y'all are so nice, and that's all she said. She 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.400 never I didn't hear her mention any of our names. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.320 She just said, y'all are so nice. And then she 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.760 turned around and she said, do you people realize that 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.800 I'm all alone? And that just got me. And then 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.280 the feed kept cutting out and she kept coming back, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.600 and every time she would come back, I would click 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.560 back on. And we were trying and she had a 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.320 relative in the room. I'm not going to say who 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:32.960 it was, but there was a relative in the room, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.679 and I just kept saying, go tell your parents. Go 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:43.319 tell your parents, you know, I don't. I reached out 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.240 to the roommate because I thought she was still living 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.040 with the roommate, and here everybody tells me, no, she 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.600 moved a week ago. Now. She never told me this, 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.360 and to me, I was supposed to be one of 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.280 her best friends. She never told me, so that broke 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.120 my heart that other people knew and I didn't know 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:08.680 she had moved into like a one bedroom studio like 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.520 a week before this happened. She never I didn't know this, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:20.080 so I was in the dark about that. Kept calling 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.559 and finally the feed cut out and I think either 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.720 someone reported her or Instagram found out and they wouldn't 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.480 let her go live again. So then I started panicking 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.719 and I went over on Facebook Messenger to see if 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.720 she was on there, and she was. It said she was, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.120 It said active. And I got a sense of calmness 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.040 because I said, well, maybe somebody got a hold of 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.880 her and she's talking to somebody. You know, now I'm 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.640 doing this, well, I'm talking to about thirty people on 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:58.040 the side. Everybody's sending me messages and texting me, and 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.439 I mean, I I didn't know what else to do. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.720 When we were in the IG people were sending the police. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.080 That was another thing. They had an old address where 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.720 they wasn't We didn't know what her new address was 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.559 because she had just moved a week ago, so I 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.080 don't know at what point they got a hold of 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.800 her parents. But I didn't go to bed that night 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.440 until IMA was midnight, and I had to take a 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.520 lot of melotonin to sleep because I was just I 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.880 was talking to people, I was crying, I was nervous. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.320 But before I went to sleep, I had checked the 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.160 Facebook messager again and she was still on there. It 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.640 said she was still on there, so I said, okay, fine. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.200 Woke up in the middle of the night. I checked. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.840 It said she was on like forty four minutes ago, 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.800 so I said, okay. Now, somebody in the chat said 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:55.079 she was drinking, so I thought, well, maybe she just 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.839 came down, you know from the she got sober, and 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.640 maybe she just passed out. Went to sleep, so I 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.800 fell back to sleep. I woke up the next morning, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.840 like I usually do, I went on there. It said 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.880 she was active two hours ago. I said, okay, I 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.120 went downstairs. I talked to a couple people. Nobody heard 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.640 anything at this point, and then another good friend of hers, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.800 Lexi Feiffe, had sent me a message and she's the 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:26.240 one that told me that her parents founder and it 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.680 was too late. So from the report that I read, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:35.720 the cops went to the house, but they couldn't get 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.400 in at first because of the door, something dead bulled 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.320 on the door or something. But they didn't hear anybody 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.600 there and they left. Now I don't know if Shannon's 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.240 car was not there at this point, because the second 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.520 report said when they went back a couple hours later, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.360 her car was in the parking lot, So I don't 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.160 know if her car wasn't there the first time and 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.120 they just thought that she wasn't home. I don't know 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.920 if she had left house and then went back, you know, 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.400 in that two hours, if they would have broke the 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.160 door down the first time, would they have saved her? Right? Right? 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.520 I mean, if somebody is suicidal and you can't get 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.680 the door down, don't you do everything to get the 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.840 freaking door down? How do you leave? I don't know that. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.360 I was so confused because, oh, we they thought no 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.440 one was there, so they left, and then when they 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.520 went back a couple of hours later with her parents 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.280 this time, that's when they found their you know, dead 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.600 on her bed and h but the thing was in 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.480 when she was on ig I didn't notice this. But 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.320 afterwards one of my friends sent me a screenshot and 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.840 she was holding the gun and I didn't see it. Yeah, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.280 I didn't see that in whatever I had seen too, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.040 I did not see the gun. I didn't see it. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.360 And then the picture she showed me, you know where 0:15:54.480 --> 0:16:02.680 it was held years ago. Years ago, she had a 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.960 gun and I'm wondering if it was the same one. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.680 And she was dating the guy and the guy had 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.160 called me and said, Shannon took off and she has 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.240 her gun with her. And I remember calling her and 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.480 I talked her down. She was at a gas station 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.480 and I said, do you have a gun? And she 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.560 said yes, and I said, you need to go back home. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.280 You know, so and so was waiting for you. And 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.840 I mean it was a close one that at that time, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.960 and I honestly thought, you know, either she got ready 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.120 or she put it away somewhere, like I don't know 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.960 why she had it. I don't know why. I don't 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.920 I wish he would have taken it away from her. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:49.360 But she she thought about suicide before this. I mean 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.920 she at one point she was looking up nooses. Oh 0:16:54.000 --> 0:17:00.200 my gosh, it was yeah. But this this was when 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.400 that incident happened a couple of years ago, and she 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:04.879 was in you know, I thought she was in a 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.280 better place. And it's no lie. She was bipolar, she 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:15.199 was manic, depressant. She had issues, but most times she 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:20.000 can control them, you know. And I to this day, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.159 I don't know. I just don't know what she was 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:31.800 thinking that. Somebody told me that she had said she 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.520 distanced it herself from her her animals because she thought 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.920 it would be easier to leave if she wasn't as 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.359 close to them anymore, because really her dog and her 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.960 cat was all she had, you know. And when I 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.879 said that to my husband, he said, she did the 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.520 same thing to you. She disted herself from me as well. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.120 Maybe it was easier for her to leave me without telling. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.200 I knew what was wrong, I knew she had she 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.680 musn't have a plan in her mind, and I honestly 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.560 don't think any of us could have changed it. But 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.680 I wish I would have had the chance to try. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.560 Maybe I could have helped her. I don't know, I 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.760 don't know. Yeah, you I mean you know, I at 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.080 the end of the last tribute that you did, I 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.560 put her episode on where she came with came out 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.560 with us. And it's a long, long, fun, you know, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.000 up and down conversation and talked about dark stuff, but 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.480 talked about light stuff. It was fun and then some 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.879 start some spots was heavy. But I saw the bond 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.600 that you guys had and you you know, you always 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.439 talked about her, you always, and I knew was this 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.880 special friendship. So you're you know, your husband's one hundred 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.560 percent right, more than you know, more than likely, and 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.800 that's that's tough. And I just I can't imagine, you know, 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.680 what you're going through with it. I've never lost anybody 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.200 that close to me. Yeah, and uh, especially in such 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.600 a public manner as it's devastating, and uh, you know, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.760 let me let me ask you, if you don't mind, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.639 what do you So we talked about the people in 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359 the room, you know, maybe people not showing up before, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.720 what about the outpouring afterwards and all the people that 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.919 have come forward to discuss their relationships with her and 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.760 how much they you know, appreciated her sometimes, I mean, 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.880 and this is just a skeptics I and I love 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.320 that they're talking about her in such a positive light, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.560 because that's what you have to do, especially somebody with 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.560 mental illness. You can't blame them. It's they can't control it. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:36.000 But where were a lot of these people before? And 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.800 I hate to say that, but I mean it was. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.840 The response was off the charts amazing. And the seen 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.359 matches I'd never seen before, pictures I'd never seen before. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:55.199 WWE ranographic for her, aw ranographic, Impact Impact Ranographic. But 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.000 where was a lot of this stuff before? And I 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.439 hate to say that in retrospect, she you know, she 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.040 loved wrestling. Wrestling became her passion. She started out as 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.320 an actress and she she got the gig in w 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.560 CW throw in acting right, yes, And she she was 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.480 athletic before, she played soccer and all this stuff, and 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.760 she just fell in love with the sport. When she 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.800 got injured and you know, the doctor told her you 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:29.679 can't perform anymore, that crushed her. At that point. You know, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.359 she she didn't know what she was going to do 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.439 with her life, and she still thought she had a 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:39.919 lot to give, uh, you know, professionally to wrestling. She 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.280 told me, And and I don't think this came from 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.359 jealousy at all. But she would tell me that she 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:54.840 couldn't watch her friends when you know, her friends that 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.879 are in the business on television and stuff, because it 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.760 bothered her that she couldn't be there, that she couldn't 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.360 do it, and she was happy for those who were working. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.679 So when I say, you know, I don't think it 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.560 was so much jealousy. I really think that she was 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:18.600 happy and proud of what everybody was doing, but it 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.159 bothered her that she couldn't do it right. And I 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.159 remember one time I did an interview I think it 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.359 was with like Alicia Tute or something for YouTube. I 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.720 did you know, and she goes, I'll never forget she 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:39.199 told me. She goes, I saw your your clip with Alicia. 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.040 She goes, you looked beautiful and I said, well, thank you. 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.800 She goes, I had to turn it off and I 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.520 said why, and she goes, because you looked so good. 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.200 And I said, well, what the I don't get it. 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.560 She said, because you you you always look good and 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.520 I don't look good anymore, and I can't. I couldn't 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:05.800 watch it, you know. And then like like we were 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.560 in New York for Russel Khan and I can't tell 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.800 you how many people said, this is you, what happened 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.359 to you? Oh that's the I remember. That's terrible. And 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.520 these people look like slobs. I mean no offense to anyone, 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.199 but you know they're coming up in T shirts with 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.080 their guts hanging out, and they have the nerve to 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.600 say something to her. And you know, she cried that 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.600 day and she said, I'm going to the bar and 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.200 I said, no, you're not going to the bar. You're 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.359 going to sit here and you're going to try and 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.639 make money because that's what we're here for. And she 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:44.560 literally had a breakdown. Who says that to somebody who 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.840 it's so rude. It's just so rude. It's twenty years later. 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.399 We've all changed, you know, some for the good, some 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.600 not so good. But you don't you don't have to 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.920 be so rude about it. And that that killed her, 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:02.440 That killed her, and you know you talk about nobody 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.000 being there for her. I just feel like, you know, 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.080 when I posted stuff, I've had people say, yeah, I 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.679 should have went to her stream, or I should have 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.200 reached out, or I should have and now it's too late. 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:20.560 You didn't and that's you didn't do it. She had 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.679 good she had to me, she had good friends, but 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.040 none of us were there, like we physically, we couldn't 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.359 be there to hug her or hold her hand or 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:34.520 tell her it's okay. And that's what she wanted, you know. 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:39.360 And she she also wanted a relationship. She was lonely 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.200 and she she knew she wasn't going to have any children, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.879 but she wanted, you know, a boyfriend. She wanted somebody 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.760 to hang out with. She wanted close friends that she 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:54.480 could be near. She didn't have any of that, you know. Yeah, 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.560 we were planning a trip for her to come up 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:02.440 and stay here for a while. Owl And I mean, 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.280 there's only so much you can do when you live 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.280 hundreds and hundreds of miles from somebody. It was she 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:15.200 from Georgia. She was you know, she lived in England, 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.800 and she was a military brat, like okay, so she 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.760