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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presentedfying

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Speaker 1: wingstuff where flavor gets its wings. You're looking at a

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Speaker 1: live look at Tosito's Plaza at the Dallas Cowboys headquarters

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Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas. And guys, it's an overcast, but I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what it is, hot enough to fry an

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Speaker 1: told by management to calm down a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: you know I can't do it. I cannot do Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're back into building. You are rocking with the best Cowboys, Nason.

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Speaker 1: This is another episode of Hanging with the Boys, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do introductions in no particular order. Former Cowboy

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Speaker 1: wire receiver, Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand back and the

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Speaker 1: man should that should have Denzel Washington's line from training

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Speaker 1: day before I introduced him saying I'm the man up

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Speaker 1: in this piece. Kurt Amen, Corner Daniels and line from

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Speaker 1: Boys cannot go with that line. But former Cowboy who

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Speaker 1: wire receiver, that's always he's going to interrupt me in

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Speaker 1: the middle of my thought process. But the guy that's

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Speaker 1: gonna change the game on these Deep Blue docuseries, I've

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Speaker 1: been hearing a lot of good things about this man.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm hearing whispers of Emmy talk. This

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Speaker 1: is shaz my guy, Jesse Holly, let's put it out there, fellas,

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Speaker 1: how y'all doing? Good? Man? They can't give me an emmy.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They can't get me why we were just

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Speaker 1: talking about something see that made vault you to what

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Priests show, because the ignorance I

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Speaker 1: would have with that em like I'm putting it on

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Speaker 1: a chain. Do they give me an emmy? I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get some sort of I'm gonna hook

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Speaker 1: it up. I'm gonna get a latch on it. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Whatever you want to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: please do that. I might. You know what, let's go,

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Speaker 1: let's go deep blues for your boy. But guys, you

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Speaker 1: know what time it is. Today is Christmas in California.

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Speaker 1: We get an opportunity to read the ingredients on the box,

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Speaker 1: to see what some guys are made of. And fellas

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Speaker 1: for you who You've been a part of this for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, so tell me about it. Some

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Speaker 1: of your fondest memories of putting these pads on for

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Speaker 1: the first time in click clack, being in action. Man,

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Speaker 1: my first time putting on paths for the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: was my first time in the league. I was actually

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Speaker 1: coming off injury, so I was a little bit late

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Speaker 1: later than everybody else. I was still rehabbing. But my

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Speaker 1: first rep. I mean I first of all, I walked

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Speaker 1: everybody was clowning me. Man, you know, TG Hatcher crading

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Speaker 1: t o all those guys are clowning me because they

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Speaker 1: told me I looked like the little the little mannequin

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Speaker 1: that they having a poster. You gotta remember, I've never

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Speaker 1: you know, fresh offen injury, trying to make sure I

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Speaker 1: then my first one on ones you know who lined

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Speaker 1: up against me? Cham Bailey? Who there you go? There

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Speaker 1: I go, Hello NFL, there you go. I ran the

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Speaker 1: only route I knew how to run. Go see you later.

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Speaker 1: Give me that thing and that's all. I won for

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Speaker 1: one against Champ Bailey. That's all I know. That's all

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Speaker 1: it was I was learning how to play special teams.

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Speaker 1: Like that's like Frosty Rucker was patting you on the

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Speaker 1: of pictures of Frosty when he was at sea, chasing

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Speaker 1: going to be plenty of guys today getting there. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to yeah baptized today, uh in this first padded practice

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Speaker 1: in oction. And so many people in Cowboy Nation are

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Speaker 1: And I'll start this off my guy. It's semi for Hoko,

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Speaker 1: do just those things. You said it, You've talked about

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Speaker 1: He's looked good so far, but you know it's about

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Speaker 1: Kurry on the defensive line. I want to see where

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing big Bow. I want

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Speaker 1: to see big Urban. I want to see where Urban.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be one of the league's best run stoppers.

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Speaker 1: how physical does it really? Oh? I mean it game physical.

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Speaker 1: Are they dipping that shirt shoulder? Can they really get

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Speaker 1: be blown dead? Are they beating their guys right legitimately

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Speaker 1: I think the toughest position to evaluate right now, it's

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Speaker 1: opportunity to see if you're worth yourself? What about you?

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Speaker 1: Just you hit it right on the head and I'm going,

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Speaker 1: I'm going booking. I'm going, And not that these guys

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers when they had Trey Poulamalo, Right, Trey Polomalu

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Speaker 1: he was all over the place, right, Trey Paolomala. You

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Speaker 1: might find him on the end of the dog on

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Speaker 1: You might find him in the in the in the box,

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Speaker 1: in the a gap. But guess what he was gonna

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Speaker 1: run back and play cover three. But that's the thing

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Speaker 1: you talk about a dig lebo system. That was the

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Speaker 1: layers to that and then making it simple and having

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Speaker 1: a guy like Troy Paulamalo who can add live and

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Speaker 1: do his own thing. But well, what about you? What

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Speaker 1: are your questions for you? One? I mean dan Quinn's

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Speaker 1: they're starting to say that Cover three is predictable, and

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Speaker 1: the dan Quinn's defense in the last few years, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're all that great. So is that I

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Speaker 1: guess part of it? And going along with that, you know,

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Speaker 1: may in La and Garrett's last year, everybody can plain

445
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Speaker 1: the defense was too vanilla. And then last year you

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Speaker 1: had McCarthy and Nolan and everybody said they threw too

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Speaker 1: much at him. They're trying to do too much. So

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Speaker 1: how do you find that balance of playing fast but

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Speaker 1: keeping the offense guessing? So I understand this. There's only

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Speaker 1: so many coverages in the NFL, So I don't want

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Speaker 1: people to think that everybody out here is geniuses right there.

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Speaker 1: Football is very simple right now, there's ways that make

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Speaker 1: it look complicated. By the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: very simple. So there's pre snap breeds, and there's post

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Speaker 1: snap New York snap breeds, and that's usually where all

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Speaker 1: But guess when the ball snapped, guys are going to

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Speaker 1: across the board from dog On Middle School all the

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Speaker 1: way up to the NFL. Now, guess what if Jesse's

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Speaker 1: playing corner. He might be playing corner in one play

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Speaker 1: and cover three, but now this time I have him

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Speaker 1: running over and now he's playing the flat. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: it's still cover three. It's still cover three. He's just

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Speaker 1: playing out of position. So it's not that complicated as

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Speaker 1: people are making it seem. But you like like he

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Speaker 1: like to Jesse's point, you want to simplify it enough

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Speaker 1: and then you can get to the point if you're

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Speaker 1: using your athleticism, no matter what coverage guys are running

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Speaker 1: in defense, if defensive coordinator were to run, it always

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Speaker 1: comes down to your front seven. Yeah, and and to

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Speaker 1: go to your point, U Kurt, when we talk about

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Speaker 1: cover three, there's a reason why dan Quinn was pounding

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Speaker 1: the table for long, tall, rangy guys. And the reason

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Speaker 1: is I disrupt the timing at the line of scrimmage, right,

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Speaker 1: get I get my hands on him, the timing gets disrupted. Now,

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Speaker 1: if I'm running cover three, there's these holes and cover three.

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Speaker 1: How do I eliminate the holes? Yes, I do it

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Speaker 1: upfront timing, yes, But also now think of the Syracuse

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Speaker 1: You look at down the holes, look at look at

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Speaker 1: the guys that he's brought in. Six four guys have

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Speaker 1: these long wingspans, So where I can't get there with

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Speaker 1: I cut off those windows with my my my wingspan,

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Speaker 1: see how many deflections you saw Richard Sherman or Brandon

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Speaker 1: we're gonna just tip it back to you, guys. Earl

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497
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Speaker 1: will just all run into the football. Because that was

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Speaker 1: thing up, and I need guys run into the football.

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Speaker 1: So Dan Quinn and the defense that he wants to run,

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Speaker 1: he relies a lot on the length of guys in

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Speaker 1: If I got a guy here that's looking like this,

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Speaker 1: kind of proven more. Yeah, this is it for him.

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Speaker 1: But if you're lv In with Michael Parsons coming on

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Speaker 1: to sit on the bench like you've been put on notice,

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Speaker 1: Jayla has been put on notice. LVE has been put

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Speaker 1: only they don't give fifth year option to guys who

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Speaker 1: don't play. Well, that's just what it is. There's no

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Speaker 1: next year. What about you, am? I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: You're not playing for the cow You're playing for your resume.

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638
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: had talked about Monday that you know, when your shoulder problems,

639
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: there was back in your mind. You're worried about that.

640
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: And this is a linebacker with a neck issue since college.

641
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, how that's a real thing. That's a real thing.

642
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: And I feel for him. I think we talked about

643
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: that last year and when he came up on the

644
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: first game, when it came up on the first game

645
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: of the season, I want to see how he was

646
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: gonna stick his neck in there and hit somebody. And

647
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: we solved the result of that, right, He was very

648
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: hesitant to do so, And hey, you got hurt, he

649
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: got hurt. Well, Kurt, Well, we'll hold your thought on

650
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: that because we have Nate on the before we lose him,

651
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: we want to go ahead and get him all right now, Hey, uh,

652
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, you're there with us. Man, it's gonna be

653
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: some big bodies, says classes. I watched it and see

654
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: if if it's a Randy Gregors for real, when this

655
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: mack truck put them Diesel breaks on the time, I

656
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen when they battle the Titans. Happened today, Baby,

657
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Come on, Nate, man, I'll try to keep this show

658
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: on the road. I can't do that, man, when you

659
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: with some big bodies banging. Maybe they got the pans

660
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: on the day. Man, what have you seen so far

661
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: out there? Bro started? They just started, They warm it up,

662
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna take five or ten minutes.

663
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all call me at the perfect time because

664
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't be gonna be houling and screaming when I

665
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: see these bodies go the swinging at each other. You

666
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Yeah, nay. What was it like

667
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: for you back in the nineties with Jimmy Johnson? What

668
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: was the first padded practice like for you? After we

669
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: after beating yea, what it was like just like somebody

670
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: took out a Swiss plade just cut everybody who was

671
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: just blood everywhere, brag it up and hit each other,

672
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: knocking each other out. Did you, man? You look forward

673
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: to you look forward to that first day. You was

674
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: hyped for the first day of practice, but you know

675
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: we didn't have to have a acclamation. Is I'm saying

676
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: that right where you get used to practice? Yeah, you

677
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: went in the first day of pads and the first

678
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: thing the first day we did was inside run defense, offense,

679
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: running back, everybody accepted, wide receiver, everybody else was. It

680
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: was in and it was full goal. Knocked the fire

681
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: brain that heat. Let's get it going. That's how we

682
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: opened up practice with Jimmy. And when we were through

683
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: it that first practice, Jimmy said, y'all had a hell

684
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: of a first one in practice. Unlet's you get you

685
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: do it again this afternoon. And everybody looked at each

686
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: other like what No, But that was then. This is now.

687
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: It's different. These guys get accustomed to what they need

688
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: to do. Now they're in past. We're gonna get some

689
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: one on one received a cornerback play, safety, tight end play.

690
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some one on one the offensive defense

691
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: in line linebackers versus running backs, and guys are coming

692
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: from thus a little bit. There's nobody's taking nobody to

693
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: the ground. But it's it's a different look for them.

694
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: It's a different look to see how they're gonna act

695
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: and do what they can do. You know, they've learned

696
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: their offense, they've learned the basic offensive defense. Let's see

697
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: if they play fast and pads. Now, is there anyone

698
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: in particular that you're looking to see today with the

699
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: pads on. I know, as you said, Freddy Gregory, but

700
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: is there is he the guy that you're like, Oh,

701
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm locked in on this guy. I want to see

702
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: how he looks with the pads on Lyo Lyo Collins

703
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: at hill. I want to you know, he passed the

704
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: first test, no pads moving around, living a light pass

705
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: rush I want to see somebody go from speed to

706
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: bull rush on and see how that jar and see

707
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: what he do the next rep. You know what I'm saying.

708
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: See if he's thinking about it. I see if it's

709
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: in the old residue, in that old hill. You know,

710
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: that's guy to going, you know. So I want to

711
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: see that, and I know Martin it's gonna be okay.

712
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: He looks great. I want to see what Tyrone do

713
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: not today, but will he practice tomorrow where they give

714
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: him a better and day office saw the low management

715
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: earlier in the program. All right, Nay, it is your

716
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: boy islay over here, man. I want to know, all right, obviously,

717
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: I want to know from your perspective. You know, back

718
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: in the day, who was a young buck that tried

719
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: to come through the a gap and try you out

720
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: like like Michael Parsons gonna try to do it with

721
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: to Zach Martin today. Who was that guy they had

722
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: to get baptized? I had the baptized kidding ring a

723
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: couple of times, getting again, kid aren't like talking dolls.

724
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: He like, you know, you sailing, ain't guy? Him and

725
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: James watching they like tacking of. But James Washington get

726
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: kid dorn geeked up to trying to hit that a

727
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: gap while he's standing back. Then safety, we just to

728
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: bust him up something bad, you know. So but uh,

729
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: these guys are ready, man, I think uh from the

730
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: big difference from last year fellas this guy seemed to

731
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: know what to do. We had a red zone, uh

732
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: scrimmage yesterday, you know, not a scrimmage, but maybe ten

733
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: or twelve players, and the defense was competing, well, it

734
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: was competing good. Got a few interceptions, and I'm not

735
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: saying that'd be the same when guys can rub up

736
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: gets you with the pads on and really bump into

737
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: you and come out of routes, you know, with a

738
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: little shove. But man, it seemed like these guys are

739
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: ready to compete. I don't know how that translates into

740
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: the season. Because things are so much different now, but

741
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: it should be a competitive practice, first padded practice, and

742
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: they said. Reporters yesterday were saying that maybe that extra

743
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: competition on the defense sparked a little more better play

744
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: among the defense, and bringing in Malik Hooker kind of

745
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: woke up some of that secondary. Was there kind of

746
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: a buzz with his signing out there? No, not really

747
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: because he's on the sideline. I think he's got to

748
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: go through that period where you have to get adjusted,

749
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: so he may be out of two a couple more

750
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: days he was over there with his position group. But

751
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: these guys have had a great temple the days that

752
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: they've been out there where we've seen these lasts for that,

753
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: they've had a great temple. And that has been the

754
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: difference and all of the practices in years past. The

755
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: temple is up. The temple is up. When they are practicing,

756
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: they're going. You know, they're not stopping and doing things over.

757
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: They're letting the coaches coach off, the film off, corrections

758
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: off once they get into the meetings, their coach off

759
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: of that. Right now, they're just going, they're going, They're going.

760
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: They look critics. I mean that that will change out

761
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks up there where they won't

762
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: get a couple of weeks back next week it is

763
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer game, but have a couple of

764
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: days you get a little bit of simple, little bit sore.

765
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: So we'll see Saturday because they got Friday off, Nate,

766
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: do you feel that there's a significant difference just in

767
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: the environment and the energy, in the in the in

768
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: the everything with Dan Quinn out there as a defensive

769
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: coordinator than you've seen and at last year we didn't

770
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: even had to see the coaches that that much at

771
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: practice because of the COVID, But when Rod Marletto was

772
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: out there, do you do you feel a difference, Like

773
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: do you feel his presence out there making a huge

774
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: difference in that defense? Just the things that you see,

775
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: Like every day you see defensive players out of practice

776
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: working on teams. Well, you know you will see that

777
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the first day, out of the second day, but these

778
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: guys are out on the field a lot more than

779
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: people think. They have a walk through before this practice,

780
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: then they walk through and then they go back in

781
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: they haven't walked through sometimes in the evening too, so

782
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: they are coaching these guys up there could correcting these

783
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: guys so when they get on the field, they can

784
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: feel free to roam and to play within the confines

785
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: of the defense of the offense. So that right there,

786
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: that is different. I mean they got a new rule

787
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: where you get these guys for eleven or twelve hours straight.

788
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: You don't get no breaks. You have to get it

789
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: done within eleven and eleven or twelve hour frame. So

790
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: these these coaches that figure out how they want to do.

791
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: The players have a jest. We've talked to a few

792
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: players right and they're like, man, how can you beat

793
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: this practice schedule? How can you not be fresh? So

794
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: they with the new practice schedule, they come out and

795
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: they give it up and practice. I'm telling you, you

796
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: rep if you if you end up messing around on

797
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: the sideline, you can easily miss your rep. Those guys

798
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: are trying to be in there getting their reps. Now,

799
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: ny I gotta I gotta ask you for all of

800
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: us stuck back here in Frisco and not able to

801
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: see our team up plos, who is your dark horse

802
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: guy to make this team? Who is just every time

803
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: you look up, this is a number you keep saying,

804
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Hey man, this guy is making Kennedy, Maurice Kennedy, and

805
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if they got him on the roster

806
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: or not. This guy just keep making plays. And uh,

807
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: another guy that is just keep making plays is Norah Brown.

808
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: They're talking about Norah Brown sheep making plays and they're

809
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: not talking about them. They're not the new you know,

810
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: the new kids on the box. But these guys keep

811
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: making plays. And you know, everybody like, man, yeah, you're right.

812
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, follow the ball, man and the ball always

813
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: seen it. And Dalton Shokes is showing how who is

814
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: that again? Dalton Shows is showing how? You know, I'm

815
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: he's showing out man. I'm like, well, gut, this, ain't

816
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: that fast? Ain't that big? And ain't that and ain't

817
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: that and ain't that He's been showing out? Well, I

818
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: shall I should appreciate that, mate, because you know Jesse.

819
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: You know how Jesse is when he get dug in

820
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: on something and he won't take no for an answer.

821
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: And so we even sitting here to to talk to

822
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: him about Dalton Show said he is no goal on show.

823
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: So thank you for saying that, Nate. But I mean

824
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: he but we got on the pass because I'm I'm

825
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: a Blake Jarring guy, because I think Blake can do more.

826
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: But I'm you ask me the guys who's been showing out,

827
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: who's been dark horses and and that's sup been doing it.

828
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: That's sup been doing it in this camp, you know,

829
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and that out and it's a few young guys. Uh

830
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: uh part part suits. I mean every day he's doing something.

831
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: But like I said, he passed. Come on the table

832
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: and so people, can you know, lay hands on you

833
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: and see if you really about this saying you know,

834
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: so we'll see if they run through the gaps and

835
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: uh and run free. Because now you can punch some people.

836
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: Now you can punch some people. I like how that's out. Nate,

837
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: thank you for calling in to the show man. We

838
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: appreciate you, man, and hopefully we'll get an opportunity to

839
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: talk to you on Friday. Man. Yeah, man, let's do this.

840
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: Let's do this. Yes, okay, baby, I'm good. All right,

841
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: y'all be good? Yeah, ask you that like you like

842
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: your honor, ask your baby. You need something, baby that

843
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: is awesome. As Nate Newton out in ox and our

844
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: California you get keeping us updated on everything that's going

845
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: on with camp. But what we're gonna do is we're

846
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: gonna take a break, our last break. Hey, We're gonna

847
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: open up the next one with the what the heck,

848
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: so everybody knows that what the heck is coming. But

849
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Speaker 1: And we've been doing something a little bit, having a

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Speaker 1: little fun here with what the heck and let me

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Speaker 1: introductions in order and what the heck and so guys,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, then take me long to come up

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Speaker 1: with this, But I'm watching TV yesterday in the news cycle,

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Speaker 1: and I noticed that every time someone is either looking

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904
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Speaker 1: or are they're talking about coaches. Every time you show

905
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Speaker 1: that opposing player, there's a Dallas cowb Boys highlight. Now,

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Speaker 1: I love our guys that work here behind the scenes.

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: These guys get pressured a lot from management to come

908
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: up with good stuff. But I am sick of it.

909
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me the only is thirty one

910
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00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: highlight besides the Dallas Cowboys. That is my what the

912
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: heck for the day? Kurt you? But you you only

913
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Speaker 1: get jealous when when it's a dime right, Like like

914
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Speaker 1: if if if if, if, WIFEI go, you know, this

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Speaker 1: guy says something to me today, and you saw the

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Speaker 1: guy he was but ugly, you'd be like, oh okay,

917
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Speaker 1: But if he was interest Albert gave a cobo, you'd

918
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, hold on, he said what no no,

919
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, no, no what.

920
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: But that's how they look at the Cowboys. They were

921
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: we are, we are that, we're dying, we're interest where

922
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: we are? We are? We a dime piece. And so

923
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Speaker 1: guys are always trying to make their significant other their

924
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: current situation a little bit jealous or streeting the pot

925
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I gotta I gotta flirt with the dime.

926
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Speaker 1: I gotta show you dime so you can make so

927
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Speaker 1: you can come to your senses. I can only see

928
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: this Oldell Beckham reverse one more time. I want to scream.

929
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Speaker 1: I do not want to say. I mean, I understand

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Speaker 1: he's coming back from an injury. I get it, but

931
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Speaker 1: godly do I have to see it all day every day? Look,

932
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Speaker 1: you know Aaron Rodgers, he was dominating the news cycle yesterday.

933
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys saw that. But every play, every

934
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Speaker 1: throw that they showed it. Cowboys here we are. You know,

935
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Speaker 1: anybody else gotta what the heck besides me? So I

936
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Speaker 1: got griped so by what the heck is this? And

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Speaker 1: I am a startch defender of freaky Mike. That's what

938
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Speaker 1: I called Mike McCarthy. Um. People you know are saying,

939
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Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes coach McCarthy looks like he's not engage,

940
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Speaker 1: not doing anything. And my biggest gripe on that am

941
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Speaker 1: I what the heck is? If you want the man engage,

942
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Speaker 1: give him back the job that he came here to do.

943
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Speaker 1: You took the offensive he is a play caller. And

944
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Speaker 1: if you want him engaged, if you want him to

945
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Speaker 1: look interested in what's going on, give him back a

946
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: role that puts him back in the middle of everything.

947
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Other than that he's just walking around playing pocket pool,

948
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Speaker 1: Like give him a pocket give him the job that

949
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Speaker 1: he originally brought and I get you. You know, boy

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Speaker 1: Wonder and the Joneses are high on Kellen Moore and

951
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Speaker 1: he didn't take the job at Boys you State this

952
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Speaker 1: year and all that great stuff. But if you want

953
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Speaker 1: the man to be engaged, if you want him to

954
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Speaker 1: be it like he is out there doing stuff and

955
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Speaker 1: not just watching, give the man back the job that

956
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Speaker 1: he came in to do and let him Jerry addressed

957
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Speaker 1: that last week. Jerry addressed that in an interview, and uh,

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Speaker 1: he said that he was very adamant about correct that

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Speaker 1: he's had nine Now let me let me tell you guys,

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Speaker 1: he you know, he won'ted it that way. He does

961
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Speaker 1: the best Jerry out man. You know, Jerry want to

962
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Speaker 1: get point, let me let me take you it's the

963
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: way he won't. When he came in, he had full

964
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Speaker 1: rain to do what he wanted to do, but he

965
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Speaker 1: wanted kill him Moore in that position, so he as

966
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Speaker 1: his response to you just I'm just saying, just saying,

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Speaker 1: that's his response to you. Do it's interesting? So I

968
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Speaker 1: like that. I like that. What the heck? And if

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Speaker 1: no one else has any other ones, I'll get right

970
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Speaker 1: to it because I want to ask you guys his

971
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Speaker 1: opinion I've heard. I'll start with you only five practices in.

972
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Speaker 1: What is your evaluation on Michael Parsons from what you've seen?

973
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen him personally, but just the report

974
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: sounds like he's doing everything you'd want him to do

975
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: as a first round pick. Again, pads are gonna come on,

976
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: so we'll really find out what he's got going on.

977
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: But it's got to be exciting. My only concern there

978
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: was was, you know, he was working out at you know,

979
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Speaker 1: rushing the passer even he said, even a couple of

980
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: times defensive tackle he lined up. He was, you know,

981
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: all three linebacker positions. You know, we talked I think

982
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: last year some about do you give these guys too much?

983
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: You bring him along slowly? I mean, are they doing

984
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: this right? Do they throw everything at him now? Or

985
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: do they should they be taking a little slore with him? Yeah,

986
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we can't get eyes on him right now.

987
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: The reports have been amazing. How my concern is along

988
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: the same lines as yours in terms of the workload

989
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: that they're giving him. Not from the mental capacity inside

990
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: of things, but most are more so from the physical

991
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, as you as he as camp goes along,

992
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: as he starts becoming more fatigued, I start questioning, Okay, well,

993
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: how's his nutrition, how's his recovery? Right? Is his body

994
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: going to be able to respond and regenerate the way

995
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: he needs to when his body's getting hit from so

996
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: many different angles? Right, there's so many different demands. Special

997
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: teams is one demand, right, you know, rushing the pastors

998
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: another demand. You know, being middle linebacker is another day.

999
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: So I worry about that. That's my only concern for

1000
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: him and just making sure him. But we have a

1001
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: great team down there, and how hopefully that you know,

1002
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: they're taking care of business in terms of making sure

1003
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: he's healthy. One of the biggest things about coaching is

1004
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: learning the temperament of your players. Like that's the biggest thing, Like, like, yes,

1005
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: on the field stuff is, but I need to know

1006
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Speaker 1: the difference between heckma the difference between Kurt, difference between Isa.

1007
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Speaker 1: When I'm coaching you, because I'm able to come to

1008
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Speaker 1: you and rip you a new one and you'll be

1009
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: just fine. That same approach might crush your spirits and

1010
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: now I've lost you and I may need to be

1011
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: more hands on with you to show you how I

1012
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: want it. So that's one of the biggest components about coaching.

1013
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: So from Michael Parsons, when you're being thrown a lot,

1014
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: being thrown out, and I think that's something when dan

1015
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Quinn was doing his evaluation talking to James Franklin back

1016
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: at Penn State other coaches and now having him and

1017
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: this was so this is what is so key that

1018
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: we did not get last year. That on the field

1019
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: experience during OTAs and mini camps is now I can

1020
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: see how guys are picking up things and how they're

1021
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: able to retain information and how they're able to process information,

1022
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: and I can go, Okay, he's fine. I can pile

1023
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: on to the information onto him because he gets it

1024
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: and he understands it. Heck, I got to do a

1025
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, slow spoon feeding. And so

1026
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Speaker 1: that's the that's the greatest idea, that's the greatest thing

1027
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Speaker 1: about when when it comes to coach and the exit,

1028
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: and those are great, but learning the temperament of your

1029
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: players and and Isaiah's right, a guy coming from an

1030
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Speaker 1: eleven twelve game season where you're not always playing the

1031
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Speaker 1: best of the best, as a lot of time you're

1032
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: the best player on the football field to now I'm

1033
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: playing a seventeen game season where you're going up against Tyran,

1034
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Speaker 1: You're going up against Zach Martin, You're going up against Elsie,

1035
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Speaker 1: You're going up against Zeke Elliott. Those type of things

1036
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Speaker 1: kind of that can have a wear and tear on

1037
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: your body over time. And that's the professional part when

1038
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: it comes to everything. Azaiah was saying, when you when

1039
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: you hear the term of learning how to be a professional,

1040
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: are you eating right? Because that's going to be key

1041
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: for your body's recovery. Are you sleeping? Are you hydrating?

1042
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: Are you doing the things in the weight room to

1043
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: do that? Do you have amsus? Do you have all

1044
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: these things will play a part in your recovery. And

1045
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: for young guys, it's about learning that process and learning

1046
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: how to put those things together and put it in

1047
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: your repertoire to have your body respond the best way.

1048
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: You got to invest in yourself too. Come on, didn't

1049
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: take you to learn that like two years? Yeah, I didn't.

1050
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Speaker 1: I didn't figure that out until like my last major surgery. Yeah,

1051
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Speaker 1: after after I tore my achilles. That's when I was like,

1052
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Speaker 1: you know what, this is how you take care of

1053
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Speaker 1: your body. Yeah, and you got to put money into that.

1054
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Speaker 1: Like that's because your guys be like, oh, you know,

1055
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson spends a million dollars. Lebron DA's spends a

1056
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Speaker 1: million dollars. How hard was the food aspect of it?

1057
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: Because I've heard stories at young guys coming in des

1058
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Brian had an awful diet when he came in, that

1059
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean that Bryant was my roommate's

1060
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: rookie there. I could for sure tell you he had

1061
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the worst diet ever. I've seen Dez Bryant wake up

1062
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the morning and just had a

1063
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: handful of gummy bears and go practice and he would

1064
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: go ball. So when you have when you have freak

1065
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: athleies like that, they're able to do something like that,

1066
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: but it'll eventually catch up to you. And now one

1067
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: of the things when you mentioned all of those things

1068
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: about young guys entering into the league less. Couple that

1069
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: with the fact that he didn't even play football last year,

1070
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: so I think there's an extra curve to that learning curve.

1071
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: But then you talk about dan Quinn and his hands

1072
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: on approach and also making sure that when he goes

1073
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: into those one on ones, like you said, Curtive, if

1074
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: you're handing him to are you giving him too much?

1075
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: But if your coach is right there with you every

1076
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: step of the way, then I think that is helping

1077
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: a young guy like him as well. But the other

1078
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: part is on this defense is in relating this to Seattle,

1079
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: is he more Bobby Wagner or is he more kJ

1080
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: right or is he both? From the way that they're

1081
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: going to use him. Because you hear things about him

1082
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: rushing off the end, you hear about him rushing the

1083
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: a gap, and then you've also seen him out in

1084
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: coverage one on one with a slot. I think he's

1085
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: more kJ than Bobby. Bobby. Bobby's not a cover guy.

1086
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: Bobby's not gonna rush nobody from the edge. Bobby's gonna

1087
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: line up in the middle and come down and come

1088
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: down your face just right right coming right at you,

1089
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: just right down the middle. Kj's more versatile that way,

1090
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: and kJ is gonna come out and he can rush

1091
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: on the edge. You got them, go go gadget arms.

1092
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: He got them in ringing taining arms, so he can

1093
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: he can hold you off from a distance. You know,

1094
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: he can line up in the A gap and he

1095
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: also cover your tight end just because he can run.

1096
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: So I think he's probably more kJ than he is

1097
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: Bobby and being that dan Quinn coach, both of those guys,

1098
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: I guess, and this is maybe a reason why he's

1099
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: trying it all. He's trying to see you know, who

1100
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: is he? Who? Who is Michael Parsons? What are your strengths.

1101
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Let me see what you are as a pass rusher,

1102
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Let me see what you are as a cover guy.

1103
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: Let me see what you you know as someone who's

1104
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: blitzing the A gap or all these different type of things.

1105
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: So now that I have a true understanding, because however

1106
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: we want to however you want to slice this thing,

1107
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is going to be a part of this defense.

1108
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: So if he's going to be a part of the

1109
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: defense and not for at least for the next three

1110
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: or four years and if this is dan Quinn's this

1111
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: is this is dan Quinn's first draftee as a Dallas Cowboy.

1112
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: He's going to play a vital role in what dan

1113
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: Quinn is as a defensive coordinator here in Dallas. So

1114
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: I need as a coach dan Quinn to find out

1115
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: everything I need to I can about Michael Parsons. What

1116
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: is his strength? What is his weakness? Is because I

1117
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: am hooked to him, he is hooked to me, and

1118
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: he's going to make this thing work for us at

1119
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: that at that linebacker position. And this is normal. They're

1120
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna drag him through camp. They're gonna run

1121
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: him into the ground in camp. The reason why because

1122
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: this preseason they're not gonna put him out there that much.

1123
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: They might give him a couple of reps suggest to

1124
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: feel what it feels, just to see what it feels like.

1125
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: But when you have your top ten, top fifteen pick

1126
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: out there, you're gonna drag him through because that's a

1127
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: controlled environment, right, you can wear him down. You got

1128
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: your training staff right there, you know to see the game.

1129
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: Why you're not going to risk that, no different than

1130
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: you ask risk and on your a QB one out there.

1131
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, you get him, you get him a handful

1132
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: of reps. But that's your dog. You can't afford Parsons

1133
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: going down in the preseason, right, so you you drag

1134
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: him through camp, you fatigue the crap out of him.

1135
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: So you know who you're dealing with, right, you up,

1136
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: You load them up in terms of information and responsibilities,

1137
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: so you know who you're dealing with. So then when

1138
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: you get to the season, you've already checked the box.

1139
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: I know who I have on my roster. I know

1140
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: the boy can ball. It's not a question mark. Now

1141
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: just matter. Okay, I'm gonna dragging dragon, drag you them

1142
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: last pieceason games. I might let you get a couple

1143
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: of reps. Then I'm gonna pull you back and let's

1144
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: get ready to go for the horse Prito seventeen games? Interesting, Well,

1145
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: can I bring up another what the heck? Absolutely? And

1146
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: this maybe ties in a little bit with throwing too

1147
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: much at a guy and our linebacker situation and all that.

1148
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: But the word came out that Kean O'Neil, moving from

1149
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: safety to linebacker has struggled in coverage. Is this? I

1150
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: mean he was a safety. So people are like well,

1151
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: that's the one area coverage is how does that? Where

1152
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: is it? Are they throwing too much at him? Is

1153
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: this it means certainly, but no, I think I think

1154
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: his presence in let's not get this misconstrued. And safeties

1155
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: aren't cover guys lest let's the reason why they're playing

1156
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: the safeties to be a safety to the cornerbacks. Right,

1157
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: corner guy, they're cover guys slide you know, nickelbacks. Those

1158
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: are corning to cover guys safeties or safety blankets. Um,

1159
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: they're bringing him down in a box to be a

1160
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: fast and physical enforcer. That's why they bring him in

1161
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: the box with he's being a fast and physical enforcer

1162
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: that can bang some guys, get them guys and not

1163
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: allow guys get off the ball. Right. What we talked

1164
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: about earlier cover three half seams, Right, So what do

1165
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: you do bring this guy into the box. He's gonna

1166
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: come up there, he's gonna get his hands on you.

1167
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna thud you up and not let

1168
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: you get a free release until those seams, right, and

1169
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: so that the safeties can now make sure that they

1170
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: cover over the top. So that's what his purpose is

1171
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: on this team. Fly around at that second level, cover sideline,

1172
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: the sideline, because when you start thinking about the four

1173
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: guys that they're gonna have at that layer, right Kean O'Neil,

1174
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: you got Vanderish Parsons and we got um Jalen. Those

1175
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: are guys. Those four guys can roll now and they

1176
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: can cover. They can cover that fifty three and a

1177
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: half yards a field pretty quick, quick, fast on her,

1178
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: and they're all going to hit you. That's what they want.

1179
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: They want that second level to be a forcer to

1180
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: be reckoned with, and they need that front line to

1181
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: be dogs. You like that idea of Neil being lived

1182
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: a linebacker like that? Yeah, because what did this team

1183
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: struggle that last year covering running back out of the backfield? Right?

1184
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: We saw we saw Gibson from New York guys, we

1185
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: saw we saw those I'm not for New York from Washington.

1186
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Sea is gonna be the same thing when he comes back.

1187
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: So you had the same thing. And uh and in

1188
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia with they're running back out of the backfield. So

1189
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: you have to put guys in place. You're building a

1190
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: team to win a championship, but you build a team

1191
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: to win of your division first. So I have to start.

1192
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: I have to start putting guys in place to eliminate

1193
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: the eras that we had a year ago. And a

1194
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: year ago it was we didn't have a linebacker that

1195
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: can cover running backs out of the backfield. And so

1196
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: now you add a guy like Kean O'Neil to the

1197
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: mix when we go onto those different packages. I got

1198
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: a guy now who can who can come up and

1199
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal the flats, who has the feet and

1200
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: understand how to cover in space, so that when you

1201
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: dump it off to to Gibson, when you dump it

1202
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: off to sa Quon, I have a guy who's quick enough,

1203
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: fast enough and physical enough to eliminate that threat from

1204
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: a team. And we got we got killed with that

1205
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: last year, Nick Chubb. We got killed with all across

1206
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: the board last year with running backs. Right, how many

1207
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: time we third and eight, third and eleven, And just

1208
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: so people don't run it back, We're gonna first time,

1209
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: just so people understand what that cover three is, because

1210
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna lean on. Kean O'Neil and Jalenn

1211
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: Smith are gonna be playing those flatlights. They're gonna be

1212
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: playing the flat so in the cover three scheme. There

1213
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: are four guys at the second level, right, and the

1214
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: four guys that I just name, that's who's gonna be

1215
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: at your second level. So you're gonna have Kean O'Neil

1216
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: coming down to your flat, doesn't matter what side. And

1217
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: then you got Jalen Smith going out to the flat.

1218
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: And then if you want to put anything in the middle,

1219
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: they have to deal with Parsons and Vanderesh. That's a

1220
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a four dudes have to deal with.

1221
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: So but you need your your dog, your runners, right

1222
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: Neil Smith, my runners. I need those guys going to

1223
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: sideline to the sideline and really not even sidline side.

1224
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: I know this guy's playing hash to the to the sidelines,

1225
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: and then I have other two guys playing the middle.

1226
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: Is that tight ends their realm too? Covering those guys, Yeah,

1227
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: it's tight ends can be in their realm, but typically not,

1228
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be Parsons and Manners most of the time.

1229
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Those guys an coming out the tight end decides to

1230
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: try to run, run a corner around or anything like that. Yeah,

1231
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna get hands on them. They're gonna make it

1232
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: hard to these type free releases against cowboys are not

1233
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna get free release. They're gonna get banged around. And again,

1234
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: when you look at what he's talking about, right, who

1235
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: do you have dropping You got Vanderest and you got Parson,

1236
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: a tall, long guy. Those throws are gonna have to

1237
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: be absolutely perfect to go over the top of that linebacker.

1238
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: Like Layton Vandorest is six foot three, six foot four,

1239
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: He's not a He's not a little dude, right, Michael

1240
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: Parson is a long arm dude. So those throws, when

1241
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about tight ends up the scene because I

1242
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: had that safety sitting back so high to looking and

1243
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: reading everything. If you're off, if you're off by a

1244
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: little bit, my safety interception, if you're if you're short

1245
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: with the throw, I'm hoping that my linebackers are gonna

1246
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: get their hands up and it's gonna be tipped. So

1247
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that and saying, how am I gonna

1248
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: cover these spaces. I'm getting my fast athletic guys and

1249
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: the flats to cover from hash to sideline. I'm getting

1250
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: my longer guys up to hash marks to eliminate any

1251
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: of that. You know, whether it's a slot receiver or

1252
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: a tight end up the hash. I got my free

1253
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: safety back there manning it all, looking and making you know,

1254
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: you know right. Yeah, and then now the quarterback and

1255
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: up my whole bits again. Like we said earlier that

1256
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: he thinks about it a half a second longer about

1257
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: making that throw over the top. Here comes Randy Gregory,

1258
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: here comes Tank Lawrence, and now these guys are making

1259
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: it tough for that quarterback to six eight urban standing up.

1260
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: You see how you see how dan quinn is putting

1261
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: this thing together. I want to close these windows. I

1262
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: want you to have to think just a half a

1263
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: second more from the quarterback position. And then if we

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Speaker 1: can't get home, I got six eight up front, I

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Speaker 1: got six four, six five coming off the edge with

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Speaker 1: bend in veroster and now to throw into these perfect

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Speaker 1: and that creates turnovers as well if we haven't had

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Speaker 1: in this team for a long time. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the defense and looking at Michael Parsons, Layton

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Speaker 1: vander esh and guys like that need to make an impact.

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Speaker 1: Throwing off the timing is definitely what you what we need.

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Speaker 1: And you look at those teams and you's just because

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Speaker 1: this is a comparison business. You look at the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bays and what they're able to do with their linebackers

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Speaker 1: and things that they can do with and Lavante David.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the Cowboys are looking to play

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Speaker 1: these guys, and a weapon like Michael Parsons gives you

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Speaker 1: that kind of advantage. And so when you talk about

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Speaker 1: Ken O'Neill, I think one of the things that I'm

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Speaker 1: warming up to is the ideal of him being someone

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Speaker 1: that can help not only in the passing game getting

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Speaker 1: out to the flats in those zones that he has

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Speaker 1: to cover, but also our run defense. Run defense was horrible,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we have to make the market improvements.

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Speaker 1: And moving a guy that's as fluid as he is

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Speaker 1: and can move the way that he is up to

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Speaker 1: the weeks side, I think that helps that defense out tremendously.

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Speaker 1: But guys, that has been our time. We put in

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Speaker 1: some work. Today's been one hour of hanging with the

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Speaker 1: boys and so off. We're not gonna get fuss that today, guys,

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Speaker 1: because I got us in and out of breaks and break. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. We'll be back on Wednesday. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Friday day, excuse me, and right back, LL be right, man.

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Speaker 1: I got so much going on, people talking about I

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Speaker 1: got something going on. But we'll be back on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Now you're not gonna be here, You're actually I thought

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Speaker 1: you were going to Cavs next Friday. That's next bad

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Speaker 1: you trying to get rid of me that it's all

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Speaker 1: with the closest one to you. My camera's right there.

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Speaker 1: Cowboy Nation, thank you for hanging with hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: and I hope your team wins. This has been a

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