1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: With Stu Gotts and Hawkman. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: This is what I would consider to be like the 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: first real episode of with Stu Gotts and Hawkman, because 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: the other ones we've had Frank Kelly endo on and 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: you and I have just kind of chopped it up 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: talking about what we were going to do. This is 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: really my idea, which was listening to you know dms 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: on Instagram who've reached out to me saying, hey, I 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: want to hear you guys talk about this, or me 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: going through old sound from the show archives and getting 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: your take on something, you know, fifteen years later or 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: twenty years later, and. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I have a piece of sound for you. This is from. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: This has to be the first year of the Dan 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: Lebotard Show with Stu Gotts, right, because when so, Stu 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Gotts was the general manager of seven ninety the ticket. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I was making all the decisions, I was negotiating 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: with teams. 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I was doing all the stuff right. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, people have talked about 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Stu Gott I'm sure over the years about some of 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: the business decisions he's made. It is no easy task 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: starting a radio station from scratch, even if you've got 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: big money behind it, which you did. 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Yes, we have been honey behind Ye. Yes. It was 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: very daunting. 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: It was difficult, it was tricky, and I actually think 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: we did a really good job. I could not control 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: when I told the owner to go out and get us, 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, like a shack for radio row for super 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: Bowl week. 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: The super Bowl was down here in Miami. 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't prevent him from going out taking my message, 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: going out and giving us the Versace mansion, which pretty 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: much sunk us for the remainder of. 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: The remainder of the fiscal year. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: I was like, Joel, just get a shack. Who cares, 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: we'll tear it up, it doesn't matter what it looks like. 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: At the end of the week, he comes back with 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: a contract for the Versace mansion. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it was so great, but you know, it's 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: like sometimes if you work in an industry and you're 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: familiar with the industry and the people you're working with 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: aren't really familiar with the industry. Joel's probably thinking himself, 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: the old owner. Joel's probably thinking to himself, oh, I 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: spend whatever one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: weekend renting this space out. Stu Gotts will get it sold, 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: it'll all be covered, so it's no big deal. 49 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: But it happens to. 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Be a very difficult task to sell as easy as 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: you might think, and I'm talking to people watching or 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: listening or you tailor, as easy as you might think 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: it is to sell sponsorships, even to big names. It's 54 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: truly difficult, yes, And so Stu Gootts, you can attest 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: to it. That's a twenty four hour a day job 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: when you're starting up a radio station. 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: And Stu Gott's head. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: On top of that, he was Dan's partner, and he 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: was the guy who was gonna remember at the beginning, 60 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: drive the show through live reads and commercials. But on 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: top of that, I remember the early days where Stu 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Gotts he would be on his phone. I mean, commercial 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: break would happen, he'd jet out to the hallway and 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: he'd have to be on the phone. There was Murph 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: Kurt Murphy our CFO, and Joel who was the sales manager. 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Was it Howard Davis? 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: It was Howard Davis was the sales manager. Scott Becker 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: was in charge of marketing, Alan Brown was in charge 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: of PR. 70 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Those guys would call me all the time, and so 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: you're right. 72 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: You know, once we were done with a segment, which 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't listening to Dan at all, I would then 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: have to go. 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Out into the hallway to make a call. 76 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: And the reason I wasn't listening to Dan is these 77 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: people would text me non stop. 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Then and it was you know again, Joel had limitless 79 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: money at that point because it was kind of a 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: fun game for him, but still Joel as the owner whatever, 81 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: he decided, Oh, okay, well we'll spend all this money 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: to pay such and such for the rights to this. 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: It was then put on Stu Gott's plate and it 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: was like, okay, here, go cover this expense now and 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: turn it into a profit. 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: Yes, And I drew the line at a house, like 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: how are you supposed to sell a house without actually 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: selling the actual house? Like Jim Fromola, who's a friend 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: of both of ours, but a really dear friend of yours. 90 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: When I said, Jim, we need to go sell this house, 91 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: he was like, what are you talking about? 92 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: And I think he ended up renting it out to 93 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: certain I think the at the time they were the Redskins. 94 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: I think Daniel Snyder rented it out for a night, 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: had a party, there. I think she's talk about a 96 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Versachi mansion. Yeah, Versachi mansion was it was unbelievable. And 97 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm walking down this is how crazy that time was. 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: And we'll spend an entire episode on the VERSACEI mansion. 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: But I was walking down the hallway. I had slept 100 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: there one night. Joel allowed me to sleep there in 101 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: one of the bedrooms. And in the morning, I'm walking 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: down the hallway and who was walking right past me 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: in that hallway? 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: Kanye West. 105 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: But think about it, like, think about for those who 106 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: are like, oh, Stup Gods was running the station, think 107 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: about this. He's doing the afternoon drive show with Dan 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: who this is the beginning of his local radio career. 109 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Like he wants everything to go well. He is very 110 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: attuned to making sure. He's four hours. So now Stu 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: Gott's got to make sure. And he's got a roster 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: of big name talent as well that he's got to 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: take care of. But then he's got Joel saying to him, Hey, 114 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: we got to cover the cost of this Versace mansion 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: that we've rented out for super Bowl week. And so 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: now Stu gotts in the middle of trying to do 117 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: a quality show is somehow talking with Kanye West's real 118 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: estate agent about spending one night at the Versace mentioned 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: mansion that. 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Somehow seven ninety The Ticket has the rights to. 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: Like, the whole thing is absurd, but anyway, it gets 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: me into this sound clip that I wanted to play 123 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: because I wanted to get your opinion of this, because 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is two thousand and four. Stu Gotts 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: has put together a deal that we are going to 126 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: carry FIU football games. Now. 127 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: FU, by the way, great season, they're Bowl eligible this year. 128 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: But FIU they have a better recruiting class right now 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: than Penn State does. 130 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: How about that? 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: FIU at the beginning, at the incarnation of their football program, 132 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: they wanted some publicity, they wanted some radio time, and 133 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: so they actually, I'm guessing bought the rights to have 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: us air the games, right because QAM had the University 135 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: of Miami, and so FIU came to Stu Gotts in 136 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: seven ninety the Ticket and said, hey, we'll buy the 137 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: airtime to air our football game. 138 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Is that how it went? 139 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they broke the time to air the games, to 140 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: air their pregame show and some ancillary programming, and so. 141 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: It becomes it becomes a profit center just for so 142 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: people understand radio. So now Stu Gotts is taking nighttime 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: or Saturday afternoon radio real estate and turning it into 144 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: money instead of paying a host to be on at 145 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: a time where many people aren't listening. Primetime in radio 146 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: has always been six am to seven pm. Primetime in 147 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: television isn't it is at night? So the wasteland in 148 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: radio theoretically has been nights. So now Stu Gotts is 149 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: turning nights and Saturday afternoon into a profit center by 150 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: taking money from FIU and airing their football games. 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, so so hockey is so right? Like six 152 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: eight to. 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: Seven p was the only thing I cared about, right, 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: and so if we if we had people who were willing, 155 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: especially teams and universities that were willing to spend money 156 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: at night and on the weekends, right so they can 157 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: air their products, Like I was all for that because 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: it's hard to generate income. It's kind of like the 159 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: VERSACEI mahitshit. Okay, it's all of a sudden, Kanye West 160 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: wants to rent out a room. Well, someone want to 161 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: rent out a room on seven ninety the ticket on 162 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: the weekends and it was FIU and I was like, okay, 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: we'll take your money, you know. 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Hawk. 165 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting hearing this side of Stu Gotts 166 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: because he has talked to people about renting out the 167 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: Student Gotson Company RSS feed on the weekends and just 168 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: calling it. 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's a great idea, right, really that idea. 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: That's a brilliant idea. That is a brilliant idea. 171 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: Yes, you know how munch these RSS feeds are valued 172 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: at like good ones. 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: That's a brilliant idea if you're into it, listen a 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: discount for you. 175 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: Okay, what a brilliant idea rented out on the weekends. 176 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Who wants to use my feed? Yeah? That is amazing anyway. 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: But I just want I just want to I just 178 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: want to elaborate on that hockey so right. It's why 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: play by play, especially baseball, became the thing that sports 180 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: radio stations coveted. Because you would have a baseball you 181 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: can monetize it easier. In some cases the baseball team 182 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: might pay the station to air their games. But what 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: it did most importantly, what it did was it filled 184 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: your nighttime program. 185 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: That's it. 186 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: What's something that was credible. That's something that felt like 187 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: sports rating. 188 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Instead of having to pay an air talent and a producer, 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: an entity many times is paying you to air their stuff. 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: So now, Stu Gotts, you got to remember the reason 191 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: that I'm playing this audio clip because I want to 192 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: get his take on it. Now, twenty one years later, 193 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: Stu Gotts crafts this deal with FIU. Part of the 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: deal is Don Strock the Stroker, head coach. 195 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: The Stroker. Do you have any idea who Don Strock is? Taylor, No, 196 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 197 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: I Plauch of the Dolphins and they hired him as 198 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: the coach of FIU football, and so you know, for 199 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: sports radio nerds like for Stu Gotts and me and Dfoe, 200 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: and it was like, you know when when Don Strock, 201 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: even in two thousand and four, don Strock want to 202 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: be part of something, You're like, oh, that's cool, it's 203 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: Don Strock. 204 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm paying. Though, Dan wasn't impressed with Don Strock 205 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the Stroker. So I think Dan wasn't impressed with FIU 206 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: in general. 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: He wasn't impressed with fi you, and he wasn't impressed 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: with having to tell people, hey, stay tuned, because coming 209 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: after coming up after us is the Don Struck Show. 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: But there's a funny balance that Stu Gotts is playing here. 211 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: He's Dan's partner and he's got to make sure Dan's happy. 212 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: But also he's got a lot of money. Found money. 213 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: You gotta remember the FIU money is found money, Yeah, 214 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: and Stu Gotts ultimately is answering to Joel and Murph 215 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: and the guys who control the purse strings. And Stu 216 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: Gotts wants the radio station to be successful for a 217 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: long time, and so he's got many masters that he's 218 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: got to keep happy. And so this is very simple 219 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: in radio. They give you a little liner card or 220 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: a sheet and they go, hey, twice a day, twice 221 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: during your show, make sure you mention that we're going 222 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: to be the prize crew is going to be out 223 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: at Flannagan's, you know. And they give you some liners, 224 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's programming liners where it's like, hey, don't 225 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: forget to mention that coming up tonight, the Panthers play 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: at such and such. 227 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: So I think we had like index. 228 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: Cards we did with promos, like those big index cards. 229 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: So Dan now is reading a promo to listen to 230 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: the Don Strock Show coming up and want it leads 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: to this. 232 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: I just want you to. 233 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: Understand the pull that has to be going on inside 234 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: of Stu Gotts's head. He's thrilled he's got money coming 235 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: into the station from FIU. I'm sure Stu Gotts has 236 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: been thrilled having meetings with Don Strock. 237 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: It's probably been fun for me. He's a sports guy. 238 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, who wouldn't love to have a meeting with 239 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Don Strock. I had lunch with them. So now here's 240 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: a simple task for Dan. 241 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: Hey, just mention the Don Strock Show is coming up 242 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: after our show. Here's how it comes out on the air. 243 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: You could spend the rest of my life and several 244 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 5: other lives over the next one hundred and ninety years searching, 245 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 5: scouring all over the earth with an army of helpers 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: for a single reason for you to listen to the 247 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: Don Strock Show coming up, and I would not return 248 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: with a single one. The Don Strock Show up at 249 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 5: seven o'clock from seven to eight, DFO that show. I'd 250 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: listen to the DFOT show eight to nine, and after 251 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 5: that we got UNC and from that and Duke. I'm 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: just saying for the next I could spend the rest 253 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 5: I could spend if you gave me, if you gave 254 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 5: me several lives, if you said it, opened up a 255 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 5: Genie bottle and said, here are hundreds and hundreds of years. 256 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: All you have to do is come back with a 257 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: single reason to listen to the Don Strock Show. I said, 258 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, You're gonna have to kill me right now. 259 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Way to promote, buddy. You listen to DFO though right. 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 6: Turn off the station, go, you know, stick things in 261 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 6: your eyes for the next hour, you know, go to sleep, 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 6: kill yourself, but come back eight o'clock. Resuscitate yourself, like 263 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 6: put to get somebody to have heard pedals. I'm telling 264 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 6: you right now that it would be better to die 265 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 6: for the next hour and just have somebody resuscitate you 266 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 6: liking the abyss? 267 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: When who was that? It was ed Wood? Edward Wood? Yes, 268 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: right at the end of that you can come back. 269 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 6: Somebody tell yourself for an hour and at the end, 270 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 6: a screaming, angry, red faced spittles viewing Edwood could be 271 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 6: above you. You're saying, grab dinner and come back at eight, 272 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: and then he would he would just yell, okay. Now 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 6: you can listen to the Defaut listen to the Defaut show. 274 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 6: You bitch, you're stronger than this. 275 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 4: You bitch. 276 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: So good. 277 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: That's how you promote baby. I mean, by the way, 278 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: Dan is totally lying he did not. 279 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: Listen to the Defaut show. 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, before I ask you my question 281 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: about that, I should probably give the answer to what 282 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: is It's so Macaroni? 283 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Who was the wood guy? He referenced? 284 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: There, I just I'm gonna take people deep inside the 285 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: radio show at just like inside of my mind. While 286 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: doing the radio show with Dan, who was the wood guy? 287 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: He referenced and asked if he starred in a certain 288 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: movie Ed Wooded, And I just said yes, having no 289 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: idea that what was that in the move on? 290 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: Yes, Well I can tell by the way It's so 291 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Macaroni if you were listening to the episode that got 292 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: shut off, Uh, it's so Macaroni. 293 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Was Kevin Rodgers doing a. 294 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Macaroni grill commercial that we were just fascinated with Kay 295 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: Rodger's delivery of It's So Macaroni that Dan and Stecotts 296 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: would play it non stop. 297 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Kro a great update anchor, by the way, I mean 298 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, one of the best. He's on sports radio. 299 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I got to be honest. 300 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I can tell listening to that clip, 301 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: you're annoyed. You're trying to get Dan just to get 302 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: through it. He's making funny content. Here's the poll. This 303 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: is what's interesting to me because the poll is and 304 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: again I'm in there, I'm watching it. But I have 305 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: a very good calculus on what it takes. 306 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I used to sell radio. 307 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: I have a very good calculus on what it takes 308 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: to put together a deal and get it sold. I 309 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: have a very good calculus on how quickly a deal 310 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: can fall apart if one of the sides feels unbelievably disrespected, 311 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: which you would imagine maybe Don Strock or FIU has 312 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: people listening at the end of the LeBatard Show to 313 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: get ready to listen to their show, which they're paying for, 314 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: called the Don Strock Show, and the host does that, 315 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: And so I wonder, because I know it was great 316 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: radio content. I remember on the other side of the glass, 317 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: I'm laughing. I was laughing then, I'm laughing now. But 318 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm also my radio brain is going, wow, this can 319 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: cause some problems for Stu Gotts and Dan has no 320 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: idea how many problems this could cause for ste Gotts, 321 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: because Dan, at that point in two thousand and four, 322 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: not having run a business at that point in two 323 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: thousand and four, is thinking to himself, Hey, FIU needs you. 324 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want. They've got nowhere else 325 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: to go. And ste Gootts is coming from this place 326 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: of I had six lunches with various people with FIU 327 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: to finally get a check cut that you know was 328 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: gonna make this deal happen. So I wonder what you're 329 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: thinking is that's going like are you getting home and 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: you're just mother fuck him over. 331 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: And over or you're thinking to yourself. 332 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: Man, that is funny though, So I'm so torn because 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: when he did it. There are so many examples of 334 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: this over the course of time where Dan is doing 335 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: what Dan does and the things that make him and 336 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: our show great, but at the same time, as a 337 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: person who's running the station, I'm like. 338 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: You fucking piece of shit. What are you doing? You're 339 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: costing us money. 340 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: But so that's what I was thinking then, like I 341 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: was thinking, God, this is funny. 342 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: We have a good show. Dan's a good host. 343 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: He's exactly what I thought he would be if we 344 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: hired him and put behind the microphone. This is the 345 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: stuff I hired Dan to do, but don't do it 346 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: sitting next. 347 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: To me with Tom Shrock coming up and by you listening. 348 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: And then so now but now you know, hearing it back, 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: I have different thoughts. And my thoughts are, how the 350 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: fuck did FIU rake me over the coal so badly 351 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: that they got a Don Strock show on the station 352 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: in the first place? 353 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I seriously so. 354 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: But it came about at seven o'clock, right, we got 355 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: off the air at seven. 356 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was once a week seven o'clock. It was 357 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: once a week seven o'clock the Don Strock Show because 358 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 3: we were the home of FIU Golden pantherm football on 359 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: the weekends, because they were buying time. That was just 360 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: it was a regular occurrence, almost almost an hourly occurrence 361 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: with Dan where he would do something. I knew what 362 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: we were doing was great, but it was also impacting 363 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: the overall. 364 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Economics of the radio station. So yeah, like what would happen? 365 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: Would would Joel call you and say, hey I heard Dan, 366 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: he'd e didn't care? 367 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Or maybe Howard Davis, Hey I heard Dan. Can't he just. 368 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: Promote this is and this was always the pull right, 369 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: it was always the pull up, Well can't he just 370 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: do this? And it was like, well, if you want 371 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: him to just do that, then you're not really getting 372 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 2: Dan like you have. You have a commodity here that's 373 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: so unique to the market and so unique to radio, 374 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: but there are business realities as well. 375 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: And so when I was going back in audio clips 376 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: and I was listening. 377 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: To that, I'm like, man, there has to be just 378 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: such a tug of war going on inside your head 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: as that's going on. 380 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, everyone's laughing the studio. 381 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: You know, me, Mike Ryan, Dan, Stu Gott's, Andy King, 382 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: whoever's back there, like we're laughing because it's great radio. 383 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: But the only one. 384 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: Fu Pe Gonzales is Mezales. 385 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: There's one guy who's gonna have to answer for it all, 386 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: and it's Stu Gotts. 387 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: Yes. Did that ever get back to Don Struck? Oh? Yeah, 388 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how could it not, I I. 389 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: Believe because there is another one. I don't know if 390 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: I would have to go back and look for the clip. 391 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: Do you remember the Dolphins used to have Jimmy Cephalo 392 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: on after us once a week. 393 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Was Italo or the Uh there. 394 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Was there was the president. I want to say Eddie Jones, 395 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: but I don't think it was Eddie. 396 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: Eddie Jones was the president before Eddie Jones uh stepped 397 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: out as president of the Dolphins. And I can't remember 398 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: the name of the guy they hired, but he was 399 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: a recruiter supposed to find Eddie. Eddie Jones ended up 400 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: looking in the mirror and decided he was the guy. 401 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: The Dolphins paid this guy a ton of money to 402 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: find their next team president. 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Joe by guy found himself. Yes, what was his name? 404 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Joe Balley was the name, Joe Bailey. The guy was 405 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: a recruiter. He found himself. 406 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Yes, So not only did he get paid for the 407 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: recruiting fee, he got the Dolphins president's salary. 408 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes. 409 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: Wayne Heizinger, who was the owner at the time, Uh, 410 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: he told him okay, he said, listen, go out and 411 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: find me a new CEO. And Joe Balley came back 412 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: to Wayne Heisenger after a two week search and said, hey, 413 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: I found the guy. 414 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: And Wayne was like, well, where is he. 415 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: He's like standing right in front of you. 416 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: No, Joe, No, Joe. Some CEOs. 417 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: So we used to have we had the Dolphins rights 418 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: at that point, and the radio station had certainly overpaid. 419 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: That can be another segment head over people. 420 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: I want to take people inside those negotiations hoc. 421 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: But it really puts seven ninety the ticket on the map, 422 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: like there. 423 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: You know. 424 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: It was one of those crazy like a Fox deals 425 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: where all of a sudden, all these people in the 426 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: advertising industry who thought seven ninety would fail realized this 427 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: station's a player, Like they just got the Dolphins rights. 428 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: So Joe was his name, Joe Bailey, Joe Bailey was 429 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: his name. Yes, Joe Bailey as part of the Dolphins rights, Yes, 430 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: gets one hour after us every week to host the 431 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: Joe Bailey Show to. 432 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: Talk whatever he wants to talk about and promote whatever 433 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: he wants to promote about the Miami Dolphins and himself. 434 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what we did, right. 435 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: But there was also an hour called I Believe the 436 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: Dolphins Hour and Jimmy Cephalo would host it, and I 437 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: remember they were this was like the beginning of maybe 438 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: attaching video. I think you could go to like Dolphins 439 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: dot com and watch the video of Jimmy Ceffalo hosting 440 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: this hour. I remember him doing something with guess what's 441 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: in my hand? Which imagine this on radio. So now Dan. 442 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Gets off the air at seven o'clock. This is this 443 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: is true story. 444 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: Dan gets off the air at seven o'clock, gets in 445 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: his car, guessing it was the convertible Lexus. At this 446 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: point Matt finished, I don't know. Yeah, he's got a 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: convertible Mercedes right gets yeah, so it gets it, gets 448 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: in his car. He tunes on seven ninety the ticket 449 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: to hear Jimmy Cefalo talking about dolphins, and Jimmy Cephalo 450 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: is doing guess What's in my hand? 451 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: Great care? So now I. 452 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Remember the next day, Dan tell me you got to 453 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: get that audio. I probably have it somewhere and it's 454 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Sefalo. We must have played this. I believe it 455 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: became part of the closing montage of the show of 456 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Seffalo just saying guess what's in my hand? 457 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Something like that. It was just but it was just again. 458 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 3: He had a magical radio voice, Jimmy and I should 459 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: say it like he said, he's still doing it. 460 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It was like that very sing song GI 461 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: he guess What's in my hand? 462 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: Jimmy Ceffalo told me that he invented the live read 463 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: in radio. 464 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm gonna I'm gonna take issue with that. 465 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: It was Joe rose Man that was. 466 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 2: But that was like another example of where you had 467 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: a big time partner with the radio station and then 468 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: you have the afternoon drive guy Dan making fun of 469 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: the Dolphins show. 470 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind is this is not just the 471 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: afternoon drive guy Hawk. This is not just the afternoon 472 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: drive guy. This is a guy who had been a 473 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: journalist in this market for many, many years before he 474 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: had Cashe Dan was the biggest media member in our 475 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: market at the time. 476 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: It's why I wanted to hire him to do afternoon drive. 477 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: What I didn't realize was that Dan he just I 478 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: don't want to say he was a corporate rebel. 479 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: He just didn't care about anything other than our four hours. 480 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: That's it. He wanted those four hours. No, he was 481 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: a rebel though. 482 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: If I mean, he was one of those guys where 483 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: if you told him, hey, read this liner, his natural 484 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: inclination is. 485 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: You just told me to do something. Can't tell me 486 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: to do something. 487 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: So even if it was pretty nebulous, like oh yeah, okay, 488 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: don Strock. 489 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: Show's coming, up. 490 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: There's no no one's going to impeach Dan's integrity by 491 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: saying the Don Strock Show's coming up. But the moment 492 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: he was told, hey, here's a requirement, his natural flex was, oh, okay, 493 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: I'll take care of your requirement. Listen to the way 494 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: that I do it, and we'll see if you keep 495 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: asking me to do things, which. 496 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: Is why I ended up doing all of them. Couldn't 497 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: ask him to do anything. 498 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: So what Hawk is saying is, you hand this thing 499 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: to Joe Rose, you hand it to Defo, you had 500 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: to you hand it to k Rod, you hand it 501 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: to Hawk, you hand it to me, you hand it 502 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: to Channing. They're gonna read exactly what's on that page. 503 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: Their partners lebtard not gonna do that, so anyone else. 504 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: But so Hawk, I was so torn, and it's it's 505 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm surprised that you were thinking about this on my behalf, 506 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: because as Dan was doing the stuff that he would do, 507 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: I was thinking, this is what I hired him to do. 508 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: This is why I thought he would be a great host. 509 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: But at the same like, it was just such a 510 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 3: difficult position for me because he only worried about hour 511 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 3: four hours and I had to worry about all. 512 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours. 513 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: You know it made that That's what it really is. 514 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: Miraculous that the relationship between you two was able to 515 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: last as long as it did, or certainly through the 516 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: beginning years, because most people at some point would go, well, 517 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: I either need to do this or that, because I 518 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: can't play the middle on this. I'm trying to generate. 519 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: You gotta remember, Taylor like millions of dollars to keep 520 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: seven ninety the ticket going, He's got to generate millions 521 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: of dollars. 522 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: So every contract means. 523 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: Something, yeah, and then you when you sell something again, 524 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: it's the culmination of. 525 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: A lot of work. 526 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Very few deals are someone calling and saying I'd like 527 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: to spend three hundred thousand dollars with you. 528 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Can we get this done in the next ten minutes? 529 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: And so this is the culmination of a lot of work, 530 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: legwork and lunches and time out of your own schedule. 531 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: And then it comes to fruition finally, and that check 532 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: comes in and then all of a sudden you feel like, wow, 533 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: this guy's gonna blow it up here in two seconds. 534 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: That's a that's a really tough thing to walk into. 535 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: Every day. Yeah, live with it every day. 536 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: I've often wondered how you guys were able to get 537 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: it off the ground and get it going. But when 538 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: when you hear segments like guess what's in my hand, 539 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: it's like, no brainer. 540 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: It's tough to be stop that in radio. Guess what 541 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: was it? You remember? I'm going to go. 542 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: Back and find that audio and uh, and we'll play 543 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: it because it. 544 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Just popped into my head as we were talking, or 545 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. 546 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: So he's saying, guess what's in my hands, not giving 547 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 3: any clues, and people are just calling in and they're guessing. 548 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: I think so, I think he's off. He's trying to 549 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: drive traffic to their video stream again, which is in 550 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: its infancy at the time, and he's trying to draw 551 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: traffic to that, but at the same time he's disorienting 552 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of the people who are consuming it, which. 553 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: Is via audio the radio. It's an unfair advantage. If 554 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: you're watching, you can see what's in his hand and 555 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: guess what's in my hand? And it's just like and you. 556 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: Know, with his voice like and we'll take caller eight 557 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: to guess what's in my hand? You know, I mean, 558 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: what could what could possibly have been in Jimmy Cefalo's hand? 559 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: A glass of wine? Of course? What else? What possibly 560 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: could have been in Jimmy Seppalo's hand? I need to 561 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: find that? Can we reveal it on the next episode? 562 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: Do they have a winner yet? That's the question. I'm 563 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: going to text Jimmy Seppalo? Have they gotten a winner 564 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: in two thousand and five? For guess what's in my hand? 565 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: Jes Listen Hockey would agree as a programmer, perhaps I 566 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: let FIU go too far with the show. 567 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: Well again again though, I'm giving you the benefit of 568 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: the doubt. But I'm time at seven o'clock at. 569 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: Night, Yes, yeah, I mean, what else are you gonna 570 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: put there? What's the difference? And and and back in 571 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: those days? I'm guessing what do you think that they 572 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: were paying to have their games on the station for 573 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: a year. They obviously were picking up all the production costs, right, 574 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: So no producer has to be paid by seven to 575 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: ninety the ticket, no traveling engineer has to be paid, 576 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: no play by play announcer has to be paid. It's 577 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: all going to be covered. So again, FIU, not only 578 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: are they paying over the airtime, but they're paying personnel 579 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: to fill those hours that are normally dead hours. 580 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: So if it was a six figure deal, you know, 581 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. 582 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: So if it's a six figure deal and they say, hey, 583 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: you got to give an hour once a week to 584 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: Dom's Trock, not the worst. 585 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: Beat at seven o'clock at night, you do it, even 586 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: if it's gonna piss off Dan. It is hard, as 587 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: you pointed out, to close six figure deals when someone 588 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: calls you up and says. 589 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Here, here is six figures. 590 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna fill your weekends, we're gonna fill some nights, 591 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: and you have no expenses. That's a deal I'm going 592 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: to take. It's those deals don't come every day in radio, 593 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: as you know. So that was like it was like 594 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: a sweetheart deal. And I think it was somewhere in 595 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: the neighborhood hawk a four hundred thousand dollars something like 596 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: that to air you know, eleven football games. 597 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: So to put on Dom's Trock like play, we got 598 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: to wrap up the segment, but play at the end 599 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: of this play the Dan promo again one more time 600 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: so people can can enjoy it and really now break 601 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: it down like game film where just listen to the ink. 602 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: Stugatts is trying to get Dan to end that bit. 603 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Do we have the ability? Yes? Do we have the abilities? 604 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: And having fun? He knows he's annoying you and so 605 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: he's taking it further and you are trying to get 606 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: him out of it. 607 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: It was a great setup. Hawk. 608 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut you off there, but I am 609 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: wondering do we have the ability to start and stop? 610 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Because I would like to dissect these almost by every word, 611 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: like by every three words. I want to dissect What can. 612 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: You do that, Taylor right now? No, we can't. We'll 613 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: do it. 614 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: We'll give it as the show aggress as as with 615 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: Stu Gotts and Hawkman progresses a couple notes. Yeah, what 616 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: a great holiday gift. A cameo with me and Stu 617 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: Gotts would make for the Levotard Show fan in your life. 618 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Just go to the cameo app. This is good. This 619 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: is going to annoy Stugotts. 620 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: More than Dan promoting the Don Strock Show because it's 621 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: my cameo account and I'm forcing him to do these 622 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: cameos with me. 623 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: It's brilliant on my part, Taylor. He facetied me. I 624 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: had to do a cameo with him. 625 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: I had the person a twenty four hour turnaround on 626 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: cameo and I'm in the studio in Miami and I'm like, 627 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: I just have to hold up the phone with Stu Gotts. 628 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, so there's cameos available. What a great Honukkah 629 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: or Christmas gift. Go to cameo and search Mark Hawkman 630 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: and you can order yourself a hawk and Stu Gotts 631 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: cameo for everyone. 632 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: On your list. That would be delightful. 633 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: Imagine ask me Dan to do that second, that promo. 634 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: Second note. That's what makes Crowder so good. Crowder could 635 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: be doing his own cameos for hundreds. He just lets 636 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: me use him whenever I want. I'm like, hey, we're 637 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: doing this cameo for so and so, and he just 638 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: he's just so good with all that stuff. 639 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: Yes, nothing drove Dan more insane than when I would 640 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: go in studios, start a cameo. 641 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: And include him. Hey, Dan, say hi. 642 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: Stu, wasn't your problem on cameo that you priced it 643 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: too low? So when you got like a in Flux, 644 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: you could keep it twenty. 645 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Five dollars to start. 646 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have these are only priced at twenty five bucks. 647 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: These are twenty five dollars. You can now get Stu Gotts. 648 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: Not only for the twenty five dollars price that was 649 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: too low. 650 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: My whole game. I can get zero of it. That's 651 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: the best part. I'm getting it all, I know. 652 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: But if you get a cameo from me, now, Taylor 653 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: is right. I said it to twenty five dollars. Too 654 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: many were pouring in. I couldn't keep up with all 655 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: of them, and I didn't know how to set like 656 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: a day range where I like I could do it 657 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: within seven days. I had to do like a million 658 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: inside of twenty four hours. So what I decided to 659 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: do was raise the price from twenty five to one 660 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty and extend it out to seven days 661 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: for me to fulfill. But now what you're doing is 662 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: circumventing all of that hot because they don't need to 663 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: get a cameo from me from one to fifty. They're 664 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: gonna get it from you for twenty five bucks. 665 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: And if you're clear in the cameo directions and you 666 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: only want Stu Gotts on it, that's fine. I'll hold 667 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: my self off camera. Stu Gotts won't even know it's 668 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: just him that's. 669 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: Delivering you the cameo. Very kind of you. 670 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: The other thing is follow me or direct message me 671 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: on Instagram if there's stuff you want to hear on 672 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: the podcast. People are doing this. It's radio. Mark Hakman 673 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: on Instagram. After we did a small episode last week, 674 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: I got a DM. It says request for Stug Gotts 675 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Hawk podcast. I would genuinely love to hear the two 676 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: of you devote an episode to Uncut Gems. The challenge, 677 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: of course, we'll be getting Stu Gotts to actually watch 678 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: the movie. It's like me trying to get my parents 679 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: to watch a movie made in the twenty first century. 680 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: It's impossible, but that movie is literally the story of 681 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: an alternate universe version of Stu Gootts, and I know 682 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: he would enjoy it. Please and thank you. Okay, now 683 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: I was shocked you had never seen Uncut Gems. I 684 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: believe it's a version of Sid Rosenberg, not Stu Gotts. 685 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: Really want you to watch the movie. I want to 686 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: talk about that movie with you and Francis. 687 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Isn't it right? Yes? Done? 688 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: Got another DM Reallystagram. There was one episode I'm guessing 689 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago where Stu had to host the final 690 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: hour alone and he was taking vicodin. It was the 691 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: funniest goddamn thing I've ever heard on radio. Nearly drove 692 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: my car off the road. If by some miracle you 693 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: have that audio, I would love to hear it. I 694 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: don't remember that, you no, I know, I have no idea. 695 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember a day where I did it the 696 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: final hour on Viking It. 697 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Now. 698 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: I do remember radio run with Dan left and I 699 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: was left alone with Michael Strahan that much. 700 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: I remember the Viking. It might be why you don't 701 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: remember it. I do think it's. 702 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: Funny that there is a possibility he did a full 703 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: hour on Viking It, you know what I mean? 704 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Like most people can just discount that and go, no, 705 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: that never happened. Whatever. I do find it funny that 706 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: there is a possibility he did. 707 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: An hour while taking In fact, if you had the 708 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: bet right now, you would probably bet yes. 709 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: I did. 710 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: Got another DM hawk looking forward to your upcoming pods 711 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 2: with Stu. I started listening to the original show day one. 712 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: Can you discuss what happened to Mike from Nature Be 713 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: That's Mike Buck. My dude was a regular on air 714 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: advertiser on the show and then just disappeared. Did he 715 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: go into witness protection? And don't know if you'd discuss this, 716 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: but I was always curious Dan never participated in on 717 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: air ad reads, but the rest of you did. Why 718 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: did Dan refuse to do those? Aren't the ad reads 719 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: lucrative for the rest of you? Always wondered how much 720 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: a company has to pay you guys to rep their products. 721 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in an upcoming episode, because there 722 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: was a moment where I was getting heat when I 723 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: was the program director of like, Hey, you're friends with Dan. 724 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: You gotta get them to do live spots, And I'm like, 725 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: it ain't gonna happen. 726 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: So you had a guy in afternoon, immensely talented, but 727 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: unwilling to do all this. 728 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Stuff that radio requires you to do, like promote and 729 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: make us money. 730 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, an interesting time anyway, DM me Radio, Mark Hawkman 731 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 2: on Instagram, DM me what you want to hear cameo? 732 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: Mark Hawkman, Let's put Stu Gotts to work for some 733 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: holiday cameos and anything else before we wrap it up. 734 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: It seems like I'm doing all that. I have to 735 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: watch a fucking movie. I do cameos for free. 736 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: I mean what is happening here? Who knew what this 737 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: was going to entail for you? 738 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: I kind of did Taylor play the sound again to 739 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: end the show. This is again Dan trying to promote 740 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 2: the Don Struck Show just coming up after the Dan 741 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: Levotard Show with Stu Gotts, and we will speak with 742 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: you on the next podcast of with Stu Gotts and Hawkman. 743 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 5: I could spend the rest of my life and several 744 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 5: other lives over the next one hundred and ninety years searching, 745 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 5: scouring all over the earth with an army of helpers 746 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 5: for a single reason for you to listen to the 747 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 5: Don Strock Show coming up, and I would not return 748 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: with a single one. The Don Strock Show up at 749 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 5: seven o'clock from seven d eights. 750 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: You didn't know where he was going when I started. 751 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 6: The show eight to nine and after that, and Duke, 752 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 6: I'm just saying for the next I could spend the 753 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 6: rest I could spend if you gave me, If you 754 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 6: gave me several lives, if you said it, opened up 755 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 6: a Genie bottle and said here are hundreds and hundreds 756 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 6: of years. 757 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: All you have to do is. 758 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: Come back with a single reason to listen to the 759 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 5: Don Strock Show. I said, I'm sorry, you're gonna have 760 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 5: to kill me right now. 761 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Way to promote, buddy. 762 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 6: You listen to though right, turn off the station, go, 763 00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: you know, spend, but come back at eight o'clock. Resuscitate 764 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 6: yourself like put to get somebody to have heart pedals. 765 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now that it would be better 766 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 6: to die for the next hour and just have somebody 767 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 6: resuscitate you, like in the Abyss when who was that? 768 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: It was ed Wood? Edward d Wood. Yes, right, that's 769 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: the end of that. 770 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 6: You can come back like somebody, kill yourself for an 771 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 6: hour and at the end, a screaming, angry, red faced, 772 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 6: spittle spewing Edwood could be above you. 773 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: You're saying, grab dinner and come back at eighty. 774 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 6: And then he would he would just yell, okay, now 775 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 6: you can listen to the Defaut listen to the Defaut show. 776 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: You bitch, You're stronger than this, you bitch, Oh my god. Hack. 777 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: The problem was when I because he was done. He 778 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: had he had said what he needed to say, he 779 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: made the jokes he needed to make, and then he 780 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: was getting into promo mode. He was actually doing it 781 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 3: like a professional and I had to say, what's the 782 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 3: matter with you? And that spurred him on. Y spurred 783 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: him on. 784 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: To embarrass me even further, and get what if? Are 785 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: you even more angry with me? Think about that? 786 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 2: You've cut a four hundred thousand dollars check to an 787 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: AM radio station to carry your games, and the guy 788 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: who's promoting it says you'd be better off killing yourself 789 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: than listening to Don Strock For an hour 790 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: With Stu Gotts and Hawkman