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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I've never told your production of iHeart Radio Quick Trigger Awarding.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into this episode, we are going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about issues of sexual assault and abuse. So

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Speaker 1: if that's not something that you're in a good place

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Speaker 1: for today, then let skip this one, come back to

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Speaker 1: it later. All good. Also, want to put the date

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Speaker 1: on this one because we are talking about an ongoing situation.

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Speaker 1: Today is October five one, so we wanted to do

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Speaker 1: a quick update on what's been going on with the

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Speaker 1: USA gymnastics and the female gymnast speaking out about the

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Speaker 1: FBI and how the FBI has handled the allegations that

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Speaker 1: these women made against Team USA. Dr Larry Nasser so

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Speaker 1: in NASA was charged with sexual abuse and child pornography

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Speaker 1: is now serving decades in prison. Some advocates believe he

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Speaker 1: may have abused up to one hundred and twenty athletes

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Speaker 1: during his time as doctor right so. In September of

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Speaker 1: one this year, four of Team USA's top gymnast, Maggie Nichols, MICHAELA. Moroney,

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Speaker 1: Ali Reisman, and Simone Biles testified to the Senate Judiciary

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Speaker 1: Committee about how the FBI really dropped the ball on

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Speaker 1: how they went about the investigation because there was very

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Speaker 1: little and it was really emotional. In heartbreaking testimony, Simone

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Speaker 1: Biles said she blamed Nasser and quote an entire system

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Speaker 1: that allowed his abuse and that the scars of this

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Speaker 1: horrific abuse continues. And Biles testified saying that the impact

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Speaker 1: of this man's abuse will never be over and I

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Speaker 1: think that could be said for a lot of victims

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Speaker 1: of sexual abuse when we know this to be true. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. And Maroney labeled Nasser as more of a

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Speaker 1: pedophile than a doctor and described recounting the abuse she'd

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Speaker 1: gone through a while with Team USA on the phone

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Speaker 1: with the FBI, and she said she gave them clear

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Speaker 1: details about the instances of abuse and molestation, including incidents

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Speaker 1: that happened right before the twenty twelve London Olympics. Um quote,

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Speaker 1: I cried and there was just silence after that, she

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Speaker 1: says the FBI falsified her statement. She argued that the

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Speaker 1: agents involved should be indicted and angrily pointed out that

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Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco did not even appear at

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Speaker 1: the meeting, saying, I am tired of waiting for people

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Speaker 1: to do the right thing, and Ali Risman echoed the sentiments,

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Speaker 1: saying that the FBI treated her and other dimness like adversaries,

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Speaker 1: that they've been a victim shamed over and over, that

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Speaker 1: they made her feel like the abuse didn't count, that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad, that it took quote years of

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Speaker 1: therapy to realize my abuse was bad. That it does matter,

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Speaker 1: going on to say all we needed was for one

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Speaker 1: adult to do the right thing. Um and FBI Director

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Speaker 1: should never have happened and that he was deeply sorry

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Speaker 1: that so many repeatedly let down these women. The Senate

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Chairman Richard Durbin said in the fifteen month period

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Speaker 1: that the FBI officials assured their responsibility, NASA abused at

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Speaker 1: least seventy young athletes. For many of them, this was

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Speaker 1: a continuation, but for others, they were abused for the

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Speaker 1: first time while the FBI sat on the case. So far,

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Speaker 1: the FBI has impressoned charges. Special Agent Michael Langman was

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Speaker 1: fired in the weeks leading up to his hearing, and

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Speaker 1: his supervisor, Jay Abbott had earlier resigned. But that's where

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Speaker 1: we are now there's been a lot of like angry statements,

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Speaker 1: but not so much actions throughout I can see, and

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Speaker 1: that there was at one point the conversation that the

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Speaker 1: Bolence Against Women Act had been pretty much taken down,

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Speaker 1: pretty much rescinded by the previous administration when the investigation

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Speaker 1: was happening. Some of the arguments for the FBI, which no,

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Speaker 1: this does not you know, like it's not giving them

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Speaker 1: any excuses, but what they're saying is under that being

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Speaker 1: resented that they did not have actual any law in

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Speaker 1: order to proceed as a federal case. So what we

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Speaker 1: talked about, if you look at some of the charges,

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Speaker 1: they are directly linked to specific states instead of doing

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Speaker 1: federal level. Because of that and because of those statutes

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Speaker 1: being limited, it really really hurt the investigation. And of

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Speaker 1: course that could be a cause as to why this

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Speaker 1: act is so important um and the Biden administration has

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Speaker 1: brought it back. I don't know if it is fully

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Speaker 1: functioning as the entirety of the Act was intended to

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Speaker 1: begin with, but it has come back since the last administration.

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Speaker 1: But that has cost a lot of conversation about why

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Speaker 1: these things are not a part of the judicial process. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: in any way, why a law enforcement would allow this

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Speaker 1: kind of gray area when obviously there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: victims and victimization that's been happening. But yeah, we don't

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Speaker 1: call him a predator. So the actual charges from what

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Speaker 1: I remember, is because of the porn and not necessarily

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Speaker 1: actually because of the abuse, which is another just disgusting

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Speaker 1: back to this case. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of very heartbreaking things about all of this, and it

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Speaker 1: is a reminder of why laws like that matter and

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Speaker 1: why we need to keep an eye on them. And

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Speaker 1: it just makes me so angry as someone as we

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Speaker 1: talked about, I was a young girl who wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a gymnast, and I was like love watching gymnastics,

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Speaker 1: that this was happening for so long, and that people

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Speaker 1: were speaking up about it and it was not being

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Speaker 1: treated with the urgency it deserved, or even outright dismissed

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Speaker 1: or even flipped that they weren't being abused at all

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Speaker 1: or it didn't matter, and then expecting them to perform

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Speaker 1: and like these high stakes athletics as if nothing is wrong,

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Speaker 1: like forget all of that, just shut up and go

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Speaker 1: do your gymnastics, like that's it. Makes me so angry, right,

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Speaker 1: and these young women who are supposed to be protected,

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Speaker 1: if they are truly representative of this country, they should

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Speaker 1: be one of the people who are actually protected, and

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Speaker 1: they weren't, and they're not um. And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: that conversation is even after the fact, even after so

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Speaker 1: many of these women have left that specific competition field,

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Speaker 1: they're still not being represented in any least way, They're

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Speaker 1: still not getting any type of justice, They're still not

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Speaker 1: being listened to. It's just such a heartbreaking situation all around.

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Speaker 1: And then that kind of comes back to the fact,

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Speaker 1: you know, it speaks to other victims. If these women

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Speaker 1: who are famous, who are again supposed to be protected

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Speaker 1: and are being dismissed, why would they listen to me

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Speaker 1: an individual who is not a part of that world

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Speaker 1: in any least way, or who may not quote unquote

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Speaker 1: in their minds matter because they're not representing the U

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Speaker 1: S and Olympics. You know, it's kind of like, how

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Speaker 1: do it's normal person get any justice if they can't, Right,

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Speaker 1: It's a it's an awful dangerous message to send, and

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Speaker 1: it is I think very telling that it is representative

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Speaker 1: that we have and it's playing out on the stage

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Speaker 1: and it's just so infuriating. But I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's very I wish it wasn't the case and it

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Speaker 1: didn't have to be. But do you know the strength

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Speaker 1: of these women for speaking out and for continuing to say, like, no,

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Speaker 1: this was mishandled and we deserve justice and you need

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Speaker 1: to know what happened, does and fix it so it

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen to other people. That is inspiring and even

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Speaker 1: though it does break my heart that it is having

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Speaker 1: happened at all, But yeah, we're going to continue to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this and see see what happens

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