Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition.
Speaker 2: Hey, manga, welcome in your own you're doing your own
Speaker 2: background vocals. I could have stepped in there, coach.
Speaker 1: First of all, what is this lush green over you
Speaker 1: in the background?
Speaker 2: Is that that is? Yes, it's from the Amazon Rainforest? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Amazon dot com? Get it?
Speaker 1: Are they real?
Speaker 2: No, girl, they're not real either. Girl.
Speaker 1: You see about lush green, it stays the same. Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm in the Zenden, which only has like teeny
Speaker 2: tiny windows. But I do have a budding plant addiction. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean I could quit anytime I want, but I
Speaker 2: did go to town.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling yourself? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I have three I would say
Speaker 2: like capital wait four capital p plants now like trees
Speaker 2: with soil, and I have to furrolize them and stuff.
Speaker 2: And then I have like some I have a caterpillar.
Speaker 1: Have I told you? You said the last time is
Speaker 1: you shared? You told us? Well, these are plants inside.
Speaker 1: These are not plants outside.
Speaker 2: No, they're outside plants. Well, they're outside until the temperature
Speaker 2: I've been watching until the temperature is below fifty degrees
Speaker 2: and then they will be indoor plants, and I guess
Speaker 2: husband is gonna have to sleep somewhere else because I
Speaker 2: don't know if we're going to have space for everybody.
Speaker 2: But it's very therapeutic to me. I'm kind of I'm
Speaker 2: really loving, you know, having some plants to talk to.
Speaker 2: And it's very like I washed one of the leaves
Speaker 2: because it was dusty from where I got it, and
Speaker 2: as soon as I washed the leaves off, it started
Speaker 2: to thrive. And I was just like, look at me.
Speaker 2: You know, mama has over here. They don't have names,
Speaker 2: they don't. I did name the caterpillar Carl, which.
Speaker 1: Is oh, like the very hungry caterpillar from Carl? Is
Speaker 1: that where you got it from? Oh? You know, I
Speaker 1: didn't even think.
Speaker 2: About that, but Carl, Yeah, that's like.
Speaker 1: You know, those are like the most famous preschool slash
Speaker 1: kindergarten like books like ever.
Speaker 2: Yes, my son, that's one of our favorites. No, it
Speaker 2: just came to me. But it's going to be embarrassing
Speaker 2: if he's I'm not going to really know the sex
Speaker 2: until it emerges as a butterfly, and then I'm going
Speaker 2: to look at the pattern Tiffany and then I'm going
Speaker 2: to be able to tell.
Speaker 1: Excuse okay, well, not to be your left but I
Speaker 1: was on the twitters and someone attacked me in this
Speaker 1: post and I kind of had some mixed feelings and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this would be good for us
Speaker 1: to talk about on the brown of the ambition. Are
Speaker 1: you ready?
Speaker 2: I am so ready.
Speaker 1: All right, So apparently I'm not gonna say her name is.
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody, you know, just in case they
Speaker 1: find it to be negative. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're familiar with Ryan sir, hand of Oh, he's like
Speaker 1: million dollar listing Bravo. You know, Bravo has like a
Speaker 1: series of like by these fancy house shows, so he's
Speaker 1: one of them. He's the guy who looks very young
Speaker 1: in the face, but he's got great hair.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so his name is ran No, but I don't
Speaker 1: want it.
Speaker 2: But okay, I'm following, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I'm good guy, yes, very very rich like so anyway,
Speaker 1: so apparently I know that he is like an online
Speaker 1: school and some other online offerings, as well as the
Speaker 1: fact that he's a very very successful real estate real
Speaker 1: you know business. He's a broker, does very very well,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about b's not M's. Okay, So apparently they
Speaker 1: must have reached out to this young woman and we'll
Speaker 1: call her Macy. I don't know, right, So right, so
Speaker 1: they reached out to Macy to to do a speaking
Speaker 1: engagement whatever, and I guess who. I guess they decided
Speaker 1: they wasn't trying to pay Macy. So this is what
Speaker 1: Macy wrote. So apparently, whoever this woman who works from Ryan,
Speaker 1: her name is, her name is Sidney. So this is
Speaker 1: Macy's email and I just would love your initial feedback. Hi, sidey,
Speaker 1: thanks for reaching out to me. I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: you were hoping to leverage my expertise without paying me
Speaker 1: for it. While I'm happy to provide free workshops for
Speaker 1: social good organizations, I do not work for free for
Speaker 1: for profit enterprises. Your CEO, Ryan Surhand, boldly claims that
Speaker 1: his real estate firm sold over one point five billion
Speaker 1: dollars in real estate last year. Additionally, your company sells courses, memberships,
Speaker 1: and consulting services for thousands of dollars. The idea that
Speaker 1: your company cannot afford to compensate your outside speakers for
Speaker 1: your virtual workshop series is laughable and worse, you're asking
Speaker 1: a woman of color to add value to your company
Speaker 1: for free. It's unethical, exploitative, and perpetuous economic disparities. I
Speaker 1: sit over a decade developing my expertise and my method.
Speaker 1: My rates for the firm Scratch custom workshop you've suggested
Speaker 1: is two thousand dollars with a perpetual license fee of
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty dollars. If you would like to
Speaker 1: use my expertise to make money from your audience, you're
Speaker 1: welcome to pay me for it. Macie, what is your
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction?
Speaker 2: Oh snaps. If I could stand up without getting my
Speaker 2: mic on unmuted, like mess it up my mic, I would.
Speaker 2: I love this and I love that she posted it because,
Speaker 2: and especially now that I'm writing for different outlets, people
Speaker 2: really want scripts like this. They want to see how
Speaker 2: did you handle it? What? What did you exactly say
Speaker 2: to someone when they offered you a certain amount or
Speaker 2: you wanted to negotiate or whatnot? And I think this
Speaker 2: was a really classy way for her to I mean,
Speaker 2: she did the most, Like you know, it could have
Speaker 2: been just no thank you, that's not my rate. But
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think when you're someone who you
Speaker 2: can afford to say no these opportunities, and you can
Speaker 2: also educate the person who's making that offer at the
Speaker 2: same time, then that's a that just makes it easier
Speaker 2: for the women of color coming behind you, because hopefully
Speaker 2: they won't, you know, do that again.
Speaker 1: So I look in the comments, it's like it's a
Speaker 1: lot of obviously most of the women are like, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there's definitely somebody who told her that she thought they
Speaker 1: thought she was very immature. But I will say this
Speaker 1: that Sydney from Ryan Sir hence Camp replied back positively.
Speaker 1: She said she forwarded her feedback to the planning team
Speaker 1: and hoped it would help her secure a speaker's budget,
Speaker 1: you know, so basically it was to her credit. Macy
Speaker 1: was like, I don't believe that, Sydney. You know, this
Speaker 1: was her choice. This is her job to reach out
Speaker 1: to people, and Sydney probably was like, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to tell them we need to get money for people,
Speaker 1: so now maybe hopefully this email will let them know
Speaker 1: you tried it. So when also asked her did she
Speaker 1: think that Ryan was like trying to take advantage of her,
Speaker 1: she said, I highly doubt that he even knows, because
Speaker 1: you know, this is what you have a team for.
Speaker 1: And so she was like, no, I didn't think so
Speaker 1: she did a really good job. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: do you think we should share her name? I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's I think you should.
Speaker 2: She posted it and it's like got forty. I mean
Speaker 2: she put her name out there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, so sorry, Phoebe. I wasn't sure. I
Speaker 1: was like, don't let you get know. Hey, so Phoebe,
Speaker 1: her name is, her name is Phoebe the career which
Speaker 1: which is funny, but her this.
Speaker 2: Is this is her name. Just saw Phoebe.
Speaker 1: So she's a journalist turned career coach, demolishing American corporate
Speaker 1: brainwashing one tweet at a time. I'm currently following Phoebe
Speaker 1: a girl. So Phoebe, her her act on on Twitter
Speaker 1: is better w Phoebe? Like with Phoebe, so better W Phoebe?
Speaker 1: P h O E b E. So go ahead and
Speaker 1: follow him, take a look. And so I would say,
Speaker 1: obviously the large majority of the comments from women are
Speaker 1: like this is great and so yeah, so someone asked, like,
Speaker 1: you know, can you give us a context of what
Speaker 1: Sydney has sent you, and she said Sydney sent her
Speaker 1: something to the effect that said, our featured experts collaborate
Speaker 1: with us on a volunteer basis at this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do not host. I know. I'm just like, what, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's your basis.
Speaker 2: It's really funny to me, not but sad to me
Speaker 2: when it's when corporations ask women if they even read
Speaker 2: anything that we've ever written, or what our voice is
Speaker 2: like and what our messages to our audiences. Like to
Speaker 2: even think that you weren't going to get that kind
Speaker 2: of feedback or that you could ask for a woman
Speaker 2: to work for free when her like her platform is
Speaker 2: you know, completely abolishing like toxic corporate mentality and helping
Speaker 2: coach women to earn more in their careers. Like why Like,
Speaker 2: of course, of course Phoebe was going to say no.
Speaker 2: And I've experienced that too. In my freelance writing, I
Speaker 2: have a minimum rate per article, and I am writing
Speaker 2: these articles about how, you know, I negotiated my way
Speaker 2: to x percent more in salary, or I built my
Speaker 2: wealth or I quit jobs and things like that. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask for a minimum and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't really care if you pay so and so
Speaker 2: two fifty for an article, like that's not my minimum rate,
Speaker 2: and it's I think for me, it's like it's the
Speaker 2: Sydneys who I think don't deserve. Yeah, necessarily they're the messenger,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They don't deserve the They
Speaker 2: don't deserve to be talk too rudely or be snipped at.
Speaker 2: But I do think if you can, but they are
Speaker 2: the messenger, right.
Speaker 1: So again, so you gotta send that message on back.
Speaker 2: You have to send the message back, but acknowledge that
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily their decision.
Speaker 1: Yes, she re has a boss.
Speaker 2: They can ask for, you know, clearance for additional fees.
Speaker 2: And I know that, and I think you have to
Speaker 2: sort of stand in that. That's why negotiating can be
Speaker 2: a little bit uncomfortable. But you have to be patient
Speaker 2: and know if they are doing their job right, they're
Speaker 2: going to go to their higher up, they're going to
Speaker 2: get it approved, and you just gotta wait.
Speaker 1: I will say, someone toldally, someone is in the comments
Speaker 1: and said to all the Sydneys out there, start telling
Speaker 1: your higher ups that you refuse to request free labor
Speaker 1: from people, especially women of color, you know, and so
Speaker 1: like that's something that you can certainly be like, I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with doing this. One thing I did love,
Speaker 1: honestly more than anything with how many women in the
Speaker 1: comments said, hey girl, you know, I think that this
Speaker 1: is awesome, but you're actually that twenty five hundred that
Speaker 1: you're quoting too low. So people are giving her feedback
Speaker 1: about like, you know, you should be asking for even
Speaker 1: more money. You know, you should be asking to do
Speaker 1: a whole workshop. You should be asking for ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and to negotiate there. And so I just love
Speaker 1: that she's even getting and she's really receptive. I have
Speaker 1: to say that Phoebe has been really awesome in the comments,
Speaker 1: receptive to the critique and criticism which has been very little,
Speaker 1: but also really receptive to people who are like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, here's how you could you know, ask for
Speaker 1: you know, even more because I think that you're still
Speaker 1: are low balling yourself. So I just you know, this
Speaker 1: is yeah, so this is this is I was I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie my my. The person in me that
Speaker 1: doesn't like conflict was like, oh my gosh, the sassiness.
Speaker 1: But you know, but I was like, I'm the type
Speaker 1: behind this curtain. Who's like, oh, girl, girl as I
Speaker 1: hide behind the curtain. So there certainly was like, see.
Speaker 2: Although I do think people it's very easy to discount
Speaker 2: confidence and strength of voice in women, especially black women.
Speaker 2: So you know, I commenced, I don't commend Sydney for
Speaker 2: just being a decent human because it's like that's the
Speaker 2: least she could do was respond thoughtfully. But I do
Speaker 2: see like, and I have been on the other side
Speaker 2: of that where it's like you're asking you, yes, you
Speaker 2: think you're worth that? Yeah, you know, and it really
Speaker 2: I'm like mm hmm. And I think some people just
Speaker 2: don't have the they don't think women are.
Speaker 1: Worth that, and especially women of color.
Speaker 2: Especially women of color, and they and there's a sense
Speaker 2: of like who do you think you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually gotten that. There was a big bank
Speaker 1: and they asked me to, like, I think, write an
Speaker 1: article or whatever, but it was like literally peanuts and
Speaker 1: I said no, but here's my rates and he said
Speaker 1: he literally rolled back, we have bigger people that are
Speaker 1: making like what we just offered you. I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's the equivalent of you walking down
Speaker 1: the street and the guy I was trying to holler
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, no, I have a boyfriend. He's
Speaker 1: like you ugly anyway. I'm like, oh, sir, I wasn't
Speaker 1: ugly when you was trying to holler at me. Cirtainly
Speaker 1: mad And so I remember being like taken back because
Speaker 1: it wasn't some just popped up bank. It was one
Speaker 1: of like the big banks. I was like, wow, so
Speaker 1: you're mad because I said, hey, that's not my rate.
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I didn't. I wasn't rude. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I just said, thank you so much for the offer.
Speaker 1: Here's my rates. It's you know, that's that's below my rates.
Speaker 1: And if this is you know, if you can meet
Speaker 1: me closer, then you know we can talk or whatever.
Speaker 1: I forget what I said, but it wasn't rude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these people have never written themselves or done workshops themselves.
Speaker 2: That shit takes time time. It took me an hour
Speaker 2: to put together fact checking documents and an outline for
Speaker 2: an article, because that's like for an article, that's an hour,
Speaker 2: and I charged two hundred dollars an hour for typical work,
Speaker 2: like that's you know, half of the fee that I
Speaker 2: was getting for the article in the first place, and
Speaker 2: I think that people in those positions you need to understand.
Speaker 2: You need to like really be empathetic and ask, you know,
Speaker 2: how how much time does this take you? Or get
Speaker 2: a good sense of how much time it takes someone
Speaker 2: to do what you're asking them to do, because even
Speaker 2: though the end result might be only an eight hundred
Speaker 2: word article, or in Phoebe's case, only a thirty minute webinar,
Speaker 2: it takes time and mental capacity and you have to
Speaker 2: give up other work to do.
Speaker 1: It exactly and not just that. But people love to
Speaker 1: tell me only I'm like, well, then you do it
Speaker 1: since it's only It's so yeah, Because here's the thing too, Well,
Speaker 1: if you approach people, you're not just paying for like
Speaker 1: the thirty minutes upfront for that webinar, you're paying for
Speaker 1: her expertise. You're because like when people hit me up
Speaker 1: and they're mad that I no longer charge one thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, that was Tiffany ten years ago. You don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not Like the amount of experience, time, professionalism, all
Speaker 1: that I've gathered over the last ten years is why
Speaker 1: I can now go from one thousand dollars for one
Speaker 1: speaking engagement to fifty thousand. Yes, that's what I asked for.
Speaker 1: You could take it, to leave it, because here's the thing, like,
Speaker 1: I'm more than I'm more than okay to leave it
Speaker 1: than okay to say, well, you know, you know, if
Speaker 1: you if it's not a fit, that's fine, but guess
Speaker 1: what your price gonna go. Opsis. I've had people who like,
Speaker 1: I remember last year when I was thirty five thousand
Speaker 1: for a keynote, and people are like a gasp. As
Speaker 1: soon as I hit the New York Times Bestsellers list,
Speaker 1: I was like, price went up. Ain't the same system
Speaker 1: last year? Okay, So now I'm at fifty. And then
Speaker 1: people have come back and said, okay, fine, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: we'll do the thirty five. I'm like, you should have
Speaker 1: locked me in. Yeah, not thirty five anymore. And I'll
Speaker 1: literally tell them I'm not thirty five anymore. I'm now
Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller and these other things have happened,
Speaker 1: so you end up ACP Award winner. I mean, hey, nominee.
Speaker 1: Hey yeah. So so those are the reasons, and it's okay,
Speaker 1: And this is what you'll find for those of you
Speaker 1: whether it's career or business. When you raise your prices,
Speaker 1: there is typically there's a period of time where you
Speaker 1: haven't found the new customer or client yet, you know,
Speaker 1: so you get a little bit nervous because you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, people are not you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting you know, my raid, or I'm not getting offered
Speaker 1: my rate. Well, it's because you have shifted to a
Speaker 1: different sphere of people or or customer that you have
Speaker 1: to find. And so once you do, now I'm at
Speaker 1: a sphere now we're like I just locked in two
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars speaking engagements, but it took about six
Speaker 1: months for me to get my first one because I
Speaker 1: had to find that new customer. They had to find me.
Speaker 1: And so like the people who could afford me five
Speaker 1: years ago, you know, I don't do business with them,
Speaker 1: at least not in this traditional sense. And you know,
Speaker 1: the new people who can afford me now, it took
Speaker 1: them a little while to find me. So don't be
Speaker 1: afraid that just because right away someone has it, it's
Speaker 1: not paying your new rate or or you know, jumping
Speaker 1: to this new salary of yours. It's like, no, sometimes
Speaker 1: it just takes you a minute to find each other.
Speaker 2: I mean I would say, if it's been you know,
Speaker 2: longer than six months, probably you know.
Speaker 1: You might want to bear. You might want to and
Speaker 1: that's very valid. You might want to rethink it.
Speaker 2: I might want to rethink it. And two, I love
Speaker 2: that people are giving Feebe that feedback on her. The
Speaker 2: only way we can find out what sometimes like I
Speaker 2: can come up with what I think is my my rate,
Speaker 2: but there are people out there who may be earning
Speaker 2: less or earning more. And the only way we're going
Speaker 2: to find out is if we talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And companies are a little fearful of that, as I mean,
Speaker 2: probably because they like, you know, getting their their discounts
Speaker 2: where they can get them. But I really am excited
Speaker 2: for Phoebe and I hope especially you know people that
Speaker 2: I'm talking to every day who are trying to launch consultants,
Speaker 2: firm consultancy businesses or you know, contract work, and it's
Speaker 2: one of the first questions is like how do I
Speaker 2: figure out what to charge? And a part part of
Speaker 2: it is just asking people who are in the same space,
Speaker 2: asking the blunt question, what do you charge?
Speaker 1: What are your rates? I'll go to your website in
Speaker 1: a minute, and I'm like, who is someone who's in
Speaker 1: a similar space? And then I look, and then after
Speaker 1: a while you just have to go rogue, like literally
Speaker 1: like I'm not looking like I like, I for zay,
Speaker 1: I asked my friend lovey okay, so you know we're
Speaker 1: in similar although she's in a totally different space. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're at similar spaces and levels. And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you charging? And so that's how I kind
Speaker 1: of got like a kind of a gauge, and then
Speaker 1: I just go for it. You ask, you know, if
Speaker 1: I think I'm worth more, I might you know, every
Speaker 1: year I sawp at least ten thousand dollars onto my
Speaker 1: keynote at least every year. And then you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm someone who, depending on the agency
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, they might be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't have fifty, but we have forty five. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I I can do forty five. I'm gonna do that, right, And.
Speaker 2: So there's definitely literally what negotiation is all about, meet
Speaker 2: me somewhere higher than what you were going to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I talk about go ahead, go ahead, no, no,
Speaker 1: go ahead, no, you go ahead, and now it's just
Speaker 1: gonna say, here's the thing that you know. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of I can hear a lot of business
Speaker 1: coaches will tell you, you know, your price is your price,
Speaker 1: and I think that it's really up to you, like
Speaker 1: for me, you know, shaving, you know, five thousand dollars off,
Speaker 1: you know to me, because I always have in my
Speaker 1: head like the lowest is, I'll go here, and it's
Speaker 1: not as long as it's not below what my lowest is,
Speaker 1: I'm okay to share. I'm not gonna tell you I'm
Speaker 1: a lowest because you're not gonna be like I'm in
Speaker 1: your inbox. I was gonna offer fifty, but I heard
Speaker 1: about two on no offer me my fifty? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: are you gonna say Vandy?
Speaker 2: Oh geez, I forgot now. But I do feel like
Speaker 2: like there is that there is that magical moment when you, oh,
Speaker 2: I know what I was gonna say. I just remembered
Speaker 2: every time I tell people, and I get this from editors,
Speaker 2: especially as I'm I'm working on kind of sharing my
Speaker 2: strategies for negotiating. I think I ten years into my
Speaker 2: career when I managed to go from thirty five K
Speaker 2: to three hundred and fifty k annually in my earnings.
Speaker 2: I think I have some some expertise in the art
Speaker 2: of negotiating, and so much of it is flinging yourself
Speaker 2: off the cliff and asking for the asking for more
Speaker 2: and asking for this. I mean, but what I'm getting
Speaker 2: back from some feedback, well one from like really shitty commenters,
Speaker 2: but I don't really pay me pay them no mind,
Speaker 2: But editors are really afraid of sharing, like, well, that
Speaker 2: may not happen for everybody, or like, you know, can
Speaker 2: we really say that. I'm like, but it happened to me,
Speaker 2: It it happened to me, Like these are real. I
Speaker 2: got the facts to back it up. You know, you
Speaker 2: go in and they offer you one thing, and you,
Speaker 2: you know, ask for more, and you compound that over multiple,
Speaker 2: you know, opportunities over a decade. And you know, I've
Speaker 2: seen and I'm proof of what can happen when you
Speaker 2: ask for more just because you can and because you're
Speaker 2: not going to die if you do it, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think that it's sometimes we are uncomfortable. We
Speaker 2: are uncomfortable even entertaining that that's possible, because it would
Speaker 2: mean oh dang, I had to put myself in an
Speaker 2: uncomfortable situation, I may have to start negotiating, and I
Speaker 2: really don't want to believe that I have to do that,
Speaker 2: because that's very scary and that is not my problem,
Speaker 2: you know. It's it's expectations of other people that are
Speaker 2: like lower than what I put on myself. But it's
Speaker 2: been interesting to me that I've gotten that people that
Speaker 2: are uncomfortable almost hearing the success the success stories that
Speaker 2: I have to share. Maybe it's in my delivery. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe honestly, something emojiate at the end of it. Well,
Speaker 1: someone told me today, like literally one of my friends.
Speaker 1: She hit me on LinkedIn. It was like, Tiffany, stopped
Speaker 1: calling yourself a baby millionaire. I was like, she called
Speaker 1: me out. She said, no, honestly, stop calling yourself a
Speaker 1: baby millionaire. She's like, babies don't make millions. Well, there's
Speaker 1: some babies, but you know, the average baby's not making
Speaker 1: any millions. Babies don't make millions. What she said, what
Speaker 1: you've done is beyond what babies can do. She was like,
Speaker 1: it's I know, it's uncomfortable. She said, you're a straight
Speaker 1: up millionaire. You work too hard to get where you are,
Speaker 1: no baby can do that, and that's like I know.
Speaker 1: I told her, I'm like, I know, it just feels uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but she said no, But you don't understand, Tiffany. Your
Speaker 1: ownership gives the rest of us hope, the hope and
Speaker 1: the possibility of obtaining it too. And so she's right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to retire that phrase. I
Speaker 1: only say it because I felt uncomfortable with saying I'm
Speaker 1: a straight up millionaire because it sounds so strange to say.
Speaker 2: But what's a baby millionaire? Like you're new to it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: only one million versus a million million?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Yes, well, like you know, like
Speaker 1: I have like I'm like, I'm like, so to me,
Speaker 1: a baby millionaire is like between one million to maybe
Speaker 1: five million, right, So I loan her of your cult.
Speaker 2: That's your dad's voice in your head, babe, Like you
Speaker 2: have such outside expectations for yourself, Tiffany. You know, it's
Speaker 2: crazy because you get to relax and just be happy
Speaker 2: with I know, you know you're happy, but like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because it's so it's such a foreign it's like who
Speaker 1: is she? You know, it's such a foreign thing to
Speaker 1: lean into. I really. I mean, I know preschool teacher Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I know hard working Tiffany. You know, I even know
Speaker 1: business owner Tiffany. But CEO Tiffany is hard to get
Speaker 1: to know millionaire Tiffany. It sounds so strange because it
Speaker 1: just sounds like someone who could not possibly be me,
Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm just talking about like to
Speaker 1: be all the way candidate, if you know, because sometimes
Speaker 1: you can be a millionaire in assets and I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about non cash access, so meaning like you're out
Speaker 1: of your homes, you out of your businesses. So yes,
Speaker 1: if I do those things, like it's you know, we
Speaker 1: way past what I would say traditional baby millionaire. But
Speaker 1: if I were just to look at my my like
Speaker 1: hardcore like cash assets, no, like I am, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm a millionaire in these other assets, but I'm
Speaker 1: also a millionaire in bank account, you know, and so
Speaker 1: I'm just I just say that, it's to almost like
Speaker 1: to not be offensive, like, oh, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: a baby millionaire. It's like, no sense, It's okay. It's
Speaker 1: okay to say that your net worth is you know,
Speaker 1: quite honestly eight figures probably if you were to add
Speaker 1: in your businesses, but you know, high mid sevens if
Speaker 1: you weren't to add in your businesses, say it, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it sounds because it just doesn't sound real.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Target sweatshirt that says blessed.
Speaker 2: Well. The thing is like and having been someone I
Speaker 2: mean like people love the headline and I you know
Speaker 2: of how much you're worth or how much you saved,
Speaker 2: and it's almost like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the number. For me, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: And people get really caught up in the amount. And
Speaker 2: there's lots of Internet bros who like to say, well,
Speaker 2: that's not very impressive. You know I could have done that,
Speaker 2: especially to me, I could have done that if I
Speaker 2: just bought you know, I do that overnight with my
Speaker 2: with my crypto, or you know, you could have done
Speaker 2: that if you bought five properties ten years ago. There
Speaker 2: are people who want to diminish the number. But if
Speaker 2: the number, like I really don't, Tiffany, to me, the
Speaker 2: reason why I think you're wonderful and like why I
Speaker 2: continue to learn a lot from you, or why I
Speaker 2: want to come to you, it's not the number associated
Speaker 2: with your net worth. It's nice to know that you're successful,
Speaker 2: but it's like the steps that you took. People get
Speaker 2: so caught up in that number, and I really feel
Speaker 2: like that shouldn't be what you're focused on is some
Speaker 2: kind of magical number. I've never been focused on a
Speaker 2: magical number. It's more strategies and and and building building
Speaker 2: a business model that will you know, sustain yourself and grow,
Speaker 2: you know how these strategic things that you can do,
Speaker 2: and I wish people focus more on that and not
Speaker 2: just on like it's all subjective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one person's.
Speaker 2: One million, another person's tenthous exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, literally, like it's you know, i'll, i'll. I
Speaker 1: have a friend of mine who's business makes fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year and you're just like, oh, okay, and
Speaker 1: you know I but I remember when I hit my
Speaker 1: first six figures. I was like, you couldn't tell me
Speaker 1: that wasn't fifty million, because that's what I felt like
Speaker 1: in comparison to where I was before. So to your point, yes, well,
Speaker 1: especially once you get past a certain amount of money
Speaker 1: made for me, it was really about providing security and
Speaker 1: safety for my family, and so I was I've been
Speaker 1: able to do that for a long time now, you know, relatively,
Speaker 1: you know, for the last like you know, like four
Speaker 1: or five years, I'm like okay. And then when I
Speaker 1: was able to pay off my parents' house, that kind
Speaker 1: of like marked like, oh now we're good, good because
Speaker 1: barring anything crazy, you know, we should be able to
Speaker 1: handle it. That's always been a worry for me, like
Speaker 1: if something comes up, will we be okay as a family,
Speaker 1: And knowing that my parents have a safe place to live,
Speaker 1: if they you know that they got you know, they
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about food, they don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about bills. Knowing that we're fine here in my household.
Speaker 1: You know that my sisters are good, the nieces and
Speaker 1: nephew are good. You know. Once I got past that space,
Speaker 1: then it really like the extra didn't didn't move me
Speaker 1: because I was just like that's what it was for me.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with you know, living fancy, but that's
Speaker 1: never really been my vibe. It's like, Okay, we're good.
Speaker 1: So now I've been really facing towards like what does
Speaker 1: leaving a legacy and philanthropy look like? You know, like
Speaker 1: what does what does what does that look like? Did
Speaker 1: I ever tell you about Orally Brown? Did I talk?
Speaker 1: Did we talk about that last episode? So you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna save her for my brown boo because
Speaker 1: she's amazing. Because it's it's really like kind of like
Speaker 1: where I'm turning now that my everyone is good, that
Speaker 1: I know that's where I want to turn my attention towards.
Speaker 1: So to your point, You're right, sometimes I don't want
Speaker 1: to own it because I almost feel embarrassed by it,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like, oh, but I still want
Speaker 1: to sit at the table and just like you know,
Speaker 1: have like you know, I still want to sit at
Speaker 1: the table and where my target's best and and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm like, will I
Speaker 1: not be invited to like regular functions? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Not like you know, theoretically, So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm just like, maybe that's why I stay invited to
Speaker 1: the cookout. Yes, I want to go invite to the cookout,
Speaker 1: and I am bey Diddy's cookout, but it'll I want
Speaker 1: to bring potato bread buns from from shop, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm yeah, I'm excited that you are leaning
Speaker 2: into that you're a millionaire millionaire.
Speaker 1: Don't come for me though, because my husband does not
Speaker 1: play that. So just for those of.
Speaker 2: You, I'm kidnempt tipity and hold the ransom. Is that
Speaker 2: what you're trying to say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I stay with it. I stay with the
Speaker 1: taser on me what the other day? Yes?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I stay with the taser because my husband
Speaker 1: is crazy and hit. Every time I go for a
Speaker 1: walk or go anywhere, he's always liked, did you bring
Speaker 1: your taser? And if I don't, he'll send me like
Speaker 1: a picture of it. It's like, I see it's here
Speaker 1: on the counter, but you're not. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: And at first I thought he was crazy until I
Speaker 1: was going for my daily walk and this like loose
Speaker 1: dog ran upon me and he was barking so aggressively
Speaker 1: and I was so scared, and his owner was laughing,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's funny. So then I
Speaker 1: took up my taser. I did not taste the dog,
Speaker 1: but I took up my taser and I sparked it
Speaker 1: like not in front of the dog, but like you know,
Speaker 1: in the air, so let his owners know. You won't
Speaker 1: be laughing very long.
Speaker 2: It was, Yes, is there footage of this?
Speaker 1: I know, to see Tiffany with the taser, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had a gun where I busted in the air,
Speaker 1: like so the taste is said in the air, and
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: You see that would have look that would have scared me, like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He the owner was like, then he called his
Speaker 1: dog back. I say, yeah, call fight, no back, don't
Speaker 1: do that. I would hate to taste a dog, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this dog bite me because I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought that was so terrible, like we're laughing that
Speaker 1: your dog is aggressively running up to people and barking. All.
Speaker 1: I know. The dog was just wanted to play, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, I was just like, you're doing a lot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when he saw my taser, I said, it's
Speaker 1: not so funny now, he just looked at me. I said, yea,
Speaker 1: So now I was like, oh, let me carry my
Speaker 1: taser taste.
Speaker 2: Justin well, I'm glad that you take your protection with you.
Speaker 2: Don't tip me strap, y'all, don't run up on her
Speaker 2: a new work trying to give her a hug.
Speaker 1: Write me and my pig taste is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to laugh, but that it's too funny. I
Speaker 2: don't like conflict.
Speaker 1: Don't start now. No, it won't be none, no, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick break and we will be
Speaker 2: right back with actual boost and breaks.
Speaker 1: And now it's time for boost the break, Boost the break. Oh, boots, boots,
Speaker 1: So we are gonna boost, We are gonna break? Which one?
Speaker 1: Mandy are you gonna take? We are gaged? They are
Speaker 1: gonna break? Mandy are you gonna take?
Speaker 2: Hashtag free Brittany. It's Brittany, bitch. I am so excited
Speaker 2: for Britney. Yes, she has her her her daddy, her
Speaker 2: toxic daddy, Jamie Spears has been removed as her conservator
Speaker 2: suspended suspended, so the conservatorship still stands. But Brittany finally
Speaker 2: spoke out this past June, and the speech that was
Speaker 2: heard around the world. I encourage you to look it
Speaker 2: up on YouTube. It's like eighteen minutes of glorious, caffeinated Brittany.
Speaker 2: But it was the first time we heard her voice.
Speaker 2: And it's insane to me that this that we all
Speaker 2: just turned a blind eye and just and I'm included too,
Speaker 2: accepted the fact that this woman's touring and she's on
Speaker 2: different TV shows and yeah, she can't handle her money,
Speaker 2: so daddy should still be in charge of that. Like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it says something about our society. So I am
Speaker 2: really happy for her and especially her fans who have
Speaker 2: been fighting to free Britany for all this time, that
Speaker 2: she is waiting for your favor.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all just out here, but those
Speaker 1: fans were on it, like yo, they've been talking about
Speaker 1: it for the long time.
Speaker 2: They're like me, get law degrees because of it.
Speaker 1: Girl, Because you're right. Here's the thing. Even if Britney's
Speaker 1: not the best with her money, Hello, join the f
Speaker 1: and club.
Speaker 2: Like exactly, like a couple of bad purchases.
Speaker 1: Exactly, like like that, that's the thing, Like even if
Speaker 1: she does it, like to me, it only makes sense
Speaker 1: if you are in danger, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: meaning like before when they really thought like okay, you
Speaker 1: know she is in physical danger or of maybe harming herself,
Speaker 1: but like saying like she might blow some of it. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: you have you have the wherewithal as an adult if
Speaker 1: you want to blow your money, okay, so when not
Speaker 1: here to stop you, that's your business. As Miss Tabitha
Speaker 1: Brown would say, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Thinking of like Johnny Depp who was constantly going broke
Speaker 2: and spending millions and having to do another Pirates of
Speaker 2: the Caribbean movie, and didn't nobody try to put him
Speaker 2: in a conservator.
Speaker 1: Show Tony Brown, how many time does she go bankrupt? Tony? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she went bankrup a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Oh dang, well, you know those tools are there for
Speaker 2: a reason. Bankruptcy and all that stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't wish her any ill will. I think what breaks
Speaker 2: my heart the most is when I haven't watched the
Speaker 2: most recent documentary, but I watched the one on Hulu
Speaker 2: from over the Summer that came out, and it talked
Speaker 2: about it kind of gave more context around how they
Speaker 2: got her to sign over her legal rights to her fortune,
Speaker 2: and they basically made her feel like she wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be able to see her sons if she wasn't
Speaker 2: in a conservatorship. And that ship pissed me off, because
Speaker 2: how dare you can't you see in such an emotionally
Speaker 2: fragile state, how she would have been like, I'll do anything,
Speaker 2: don't you anyway? Boys anything and that anything has now
Speaker 2: resulted in like not having any any agency or control
Speaker 2: over her life or her business.
Speaker 1: They literally put her on birth control your own body.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let her take out her Yeah, getting a.
Speaker 1: Baby, like all this stuff is just agregious. But so
Speaker 1: to your point, Yay, Brittany, We're so glad that you
Speaker 1: know you are on the road to freedom.
Speaker 2: Yay Brittany. And to any woman out there who and
Speaker 2: there's plenty of women who are under the thumb of
Speaker 2: whether it's a parent or a partner or whoever, a job,
Speaker 2: a boss, they will have you like it and you
Speaker 2: can be a strong woman in all other respects. But
Speaker 2: it is possible even for the strongest of women to
Speaker 2: be selec but surely broken down to the point where
Speaker 2: they think that they cannot take care of themselves and
Speaker 2: that they need, you know, someone else. And it takes
Speaker 2: so much time. And women in my life have had
Speaker 2: to unlearn that type of you know, unlearned that lie,
Speaker 2: to re to recover their own agency and their own power.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's what we're doing. So I
Speaker 2: wish Brittany all the success in the world and for
Speaker 2: any other women. I hope that lots of women are
Speaker 2: inspired by her story and her her standing in her truth.
Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, girl, go ahead, girul Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to boost. This is a throwback to ten year old Tiffany.
Speaker 1: So when I was ten, I vaguely remember that a
Speaker 1: teacher brought in some article about another teacher who was
Speaker 1: paying for the college tuition of some kids, like a
Speaker 1: classroom of kids, and I remember then saying, I want
Speaker 1: to do that one day. I want to be her,
Speaker 1: this teacher, right, And so so many years past, you know,
Speaker 1: you remember things when you're little, and you're like, is
Speaker 1: that real? Did I imagine that? Did I make that up?
Speaker 1: In my head? And so for the longest time, I
Speaker 1: was googling for this woman, but I could not find her.
Speaker 1: So I had convinced myself that maybe I made it up,
Speaker 1: and maybe, you know, maybe it was a story, because
Speaker 1: it was literally thirty years ago. So I was talking
Speaker 1: to a friend of mine, Catherine, who's the CEO of
Speaker 1: the United Way, and I'm in Newark, and I was
Speaker 1: telling her how like, you know, when I was little,
Speaker 1: you know, I read I remember the story about this
Speaker 1: teacher that had, you know, paid for college for this
Speaker 1: classroom of students, of black students in a really terrible
Speaker 1: neighborhood in Oakland, and she was like, oh yeah, Orley Brown.
Speaker 1: I'm like wait what I was like, Catherine, shut up
Speaker 1: that that that'sout her name. She's like, so, I you
Speaker 1: have no idea if you asked me what I want
Speaker 1: to be when I grow up, I want.
Speaker 2: To be Aura Lee Brown. She is still in educator
Speaker 2: so she's not even in a Jersey. She's in California.
Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a book about her. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to read this book. There's a book about her called
Speaker 1: The Promise. How one woman made good on her extraordinary
Speaker 1: pact to send a classroom of first graders to college.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine miss Oily Brown? Because let me not
Speaker 1: be disrespectful, because's a grown woman. Missus Oily Brown was
Speaker 1: making forty five thousand dollars a year at the time,
Speaker 1: and she set aside ten thousand dollars of her own
Speaker 1: money to make this happen. She is goals on goals
Speaker 1: on goals. This happened in nineteen eighty seven. That's when
Speaker 1: she adopted a first grade class and promised that if
Speaker 1: they stayed in school and got admitted to college, she
Speaker 1: would pay for their college education. Not only did she
Speaker 1: keep her promise to that first class of students. To date,
Speaker 1: she has sent one hundred and thirty six students from
Speaker 1: low income families. They've received mentoring, tutoring financial support from
Speaker 1: the Orally Brown Foundation for College. First of all, I
Speaker 1: know where I'm donating donating money, That's why did she
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: On a school teacher's salary?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I have not read the book The Promise yet.
Speaker 2: But I fanta like that was the dollars. I mean
Speaker 2: in the eighties, that might might could have got you
Speaker 2: a couple of college educations.
Speaker 1: T well, ten thousand dollars a years? What she was
Speaker 1: setting up a year? Wow? Okay, because they were in
Speaker 1: first grade, so you figured it for twelve years she said, aside,
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a year and and and issued what's
Speaker 1: it called scholarships? So I just she's a real life superhero.
Speaker 1: I just don't know why why is there not a
Speaker 1: movie about her? Like I for the long So I
Speaker 1: started a nonprofit, but I could not figure out the focus.
Speaker 1: I started it a couple of years ago, but I
Speaker 1: was like, what is the Liverature Foundation going to actually do?
Speaker 1: And you know, just most recently I was I was
Speaker 1: I remembered her. I didn't remember her name, obviously, but
Speaker 1: I said, I want to do that that. I want
Speaker 1: to create a foundation where you know, I raise money
Speaker 1: and you know I am able to not just send
Speaker 1: kids to school, but whatever post high school looks like.
Speaker 1: So maybe you want to go to trade school, maybe
Speaker 1: you want to start a business, maybe you want to
Speaker 1: go to college. Whatever, that lump sum of funding will
Speaker 1: be set aside for you. I said, I want to
Speaker 1: adopt a preschool or kindergarten classroom in Newark and start
Speaker 1: there and then collect adopt as many classrooms in low
Speaker 1: income neighborhoods as possible over the next hopefully forty years
Speaker 1: of my life. That that was one of my goals.
Speaker 1: But it was spawned in part because of her, in
Speaker 1: part because of miss Oorly. I am a teacher, in
Speaker 1: part because of Miss Orly. Philanthropy has always been a
Speaker 1: part of my mission. And to see that she's still here,
Speaker 1: so I'm totally like going to email her today with
Speaker 1: shaking hands, like Miss Horley, I just don't want to.
Speaker 2: Say I know, yeah, I was just looking up she
Speaker 2: was like, there's a Glamour article on here from last year,
Speaker 2: oh where yeah, she was honored in two thousand and
Speaker 2: two as one of the Women of the Year, and
Speaker 2: I just said, like an updated article. Look, she just looks.
Speaker 1: And then if you go to her website or so
Speaker 1: like you know orl to toothbrush like your mouth O
Speaker 1: R A.
Speaker 2: L Lee L E. E.
Speaker 1: Brown so Oral Lee Brownfoundation dot org, you can see
Speaker 1: all these beautiful babies that she has helped. One you
Speaker 1: see the pictures. Two you get to see the videos.
Speaker 1: This is awesome video that I watched of her that
Speaker 1: the News had did where this young man was like
Speaker 1: I call her Mama, Like I still come back for advice,
Speaker 1: she still guides me. So I just I just say
Speaker 1: all that to say that you think people are not
Speaker 1: listening and watching that this woman, you know, not only
Speaker 1: does she change the lives of those children that she
Speaker 1: she she made the pack them to promise to and helped.
Speaker 1: She changed my life as well. I was ten years
Speaker 1: old and moved by her story and kept it with
Speaker 1: me for thirty years until I'm now in a position
Speaker 1: to extend her legacy and to continue the work that
Speaker 1: she started. And so I'm just grateful for that.
Speaker 2: That is beautiful. That's a name that we should all know.
Speaker 1: Or or Lee Brown.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful and I did read. I wonder if she
Speaker 2: like did it through investing. But also I'm curious too,
Speaker 2: was she the inspiration for that really cringe worthy episode
Speaker 2: of the Office where Michael Scott do you not watch
Speaker 2: the Office? You don't watch the Office? To you? Oh, Tiff? Anyway,
Speaker 2: there's a real he's like a he's a he's a
Speaker 2: terrible manager, mediocre white man. You know if that was
Speaker 2: in the definition to be Michael Scott's picture. Anyway, he
Speaker 2: he adopts a class. It's a really cringey episode. I
Speaker 2: don't know that it holds up very well from a
Speaker 2: decade ago when it first aired. But he adopts a
Speaker 2: class of black students at a high school and he
Speaker 2: calls them Scott's Tots, and he promises them when they're
Speaker 2: first graders to pay for their college education. And then
Speaker 2: he shows up later their senior year and he's reminded
Speaker 2: of his promise and they have they put on a
Speaker 2: performance for him. They make up a song, a rap
Speaker 2: song to his you know, donation, and he has to
Speaker 2: tell them, my bad, I did not actually do what
Speaker 2: I said I was going to do. So shout out
Speaker 2: to orly once again, a black woman proven it can
Speaker 2: be done.
Speaker 1: She is just like like, if you I love to
Speaker 1: see what I love to because here's what happens when.
Speaker 1: Why this type of work is so important is that
Speaker 1: if you've ever like grown up or spent an extended
Speaker 1: amount of time in economically depressed environments, there is a
Speaker 1: sine of sadness, dismay, and lack of belief that there's
Speaker 1: more than this. You might see it on TikTok, on
Speaker 1: social media, whatever, but in your neighborhood you don't see it,
Speaker 1: And so what do you reach for? And so parents
Speaker 1: will literally raise their children differently if there is a
Speaker 1: guaranteed at the end of the road. Like my husband
Speaker 1: was telling me because he grew in New York's whole
Speaker 1: life like you know, projects, all of that, and he
Speaker 1: said that he can remember as a kid that if
Speaker 1: there were kids who showed an acumen, especially in sports,
Speaker 1: they would send them home. So let's just say you
Speaker 1: were really good at basketball middle school, especially high school,
Speaker 1: and you're on the team and you're trying to hang
Speaker 1: out on the block like the block boys do what
Speaker 1: block boys do. They would literally say, no, man, you
Speaker 1: got to go home. We gotta win the game tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So when there is a specified future set aside for you,
Speaker 1: the community responds differently and they say, no, there's a
Speaker 1: future set aside for you. You can't be out here
Speaker 1: with us. And so I wonder, how can you do
Speaker 1: that for these kids where it's not sports, it's not
Speaker 1: anything other than there is a future set aside for
Speaker 1: your child.
Speaker 2: So just miss Johnson, you deserve a future yep, exactly,
Speaker 2: still have a talent.
Speaker 1: Exactly, So Miss Johnson, be mindful, like the way you
Speaker 1: raise your son, no matter what, know that he has it.
Speaker 1: Just help us to get him there. And So for me,
Speaker 1: what I want my foundation to do, and I'm curious
Speaker 1: to I can't wait to connect with her, is what
Speaker 1: I want to do is figure out between that kindergarten
Speaker 1: and twelfth grade, what resources does that student need, like,
Speaker 1: what social work resources, housing resources, food resources, tutoring, what
Speaker 1: does that look like? Because what's so great is through
Speaker 1: that one child you can really help affect the family,
Speaker 1: you know, because there might be more than one child
Speaker 1: in that family, but they all get to benefit from
Speaker 1: knowing that these resources exist and having access to these resources.
Speaker 1: So for me, I really want to make sure that
Speaker 1: we give the family the tools they need to make
Speaker 1: sure and ensure that their child makes it to twelfth grade.
Speaker 1: Like I'm so like, I mean, over overcome with like
Speaker 1: how amazing she is. I think it was like twenty
Speaker 1: three students in that first grade class, nineteen went to college.
Speaker 1: Like that's insane, you know what I mean? Nineteen went
Speaker 1: to college as a result. That's crazy. Yeah, So go
Speaker 1: ahead to her, you know, if you need some inspiration,
Speaker 1: go ahead to oral Lee Brownfoundation dot org. You can
Speaker 1: look literally she if you help her over the students button,
Speaker 1: you can see students from like nineteen eighty seven, ninety nine,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. You get to literally see students from she's
Speaker 1: up to phase seven, from each of her phases of
Speaker 1: when she set aside money for them and to see
Speaker 1: how like, you know, these students of what they're doing now.
Speaker 1: It's just really amazing to see. And you can see
Speaker 1: the original picture of heart with all these black babies.
Speaker 1: It just it just warms my heart because I have
Speaker 1: pictures like this surrounded by black babies as well, where
Speaker 1: they're all just like, you know, smiling and not realizing
Speaker 1: just what an amazing feature that you know that awaits them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it the one thing that I do.
Speaker 2: Maybe people think I'm creepy, and maybe it's just because
Speaker 2: I'm a mom now, but I look when I pass
Speaker 2: my school the school bus up of my neighborhood, I
Speaker 2: try and roll the window down and talk to all
Speaker 2: the kids and learn to know their names. I just
Speaker 2: feel like not enough people look into the faces of
Speaker 2: black and brown children and just make them feel special
Speaker 2: and heard. And it's not unless you have a talent,
Speaker 2: if you're a singer or you're athletic, like you were saying,
Speaker 2: where you get that extra you get that extra attention
Speaker 2: and like get the sense from society that you are
Speaker 2: special or valued, and even in small ways, I feel
Speaker 2: like if you can do that for us kids, and obviously, Tiff,
Speaker 2: you've been doing it since you were a preschool teacher,
Speaker 2: but I think that's such an amazing story. And the
Speaker 2: fact that it's a woman of color, like a black
Speaker 2: woman from that area who's doing it that is you
Speaker 2: just don't hear enough stories like that, So thank you.
Speaker 2: I will never forget her name.
Speaker 1: Porly Brown really makes.
Speaker 2: Me proud to be in a mandally.
Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say that sounds very southern.
Speaker 2: A mandally All right, y'all, well until next week, we
Speaker 2: will bid you ado stay tuned. It's officially October. It's
Speaker 2: officially Pumpkin Spice season and also Breast cancer Awareness month.
Speaker 2: Yeah and October, and in all serious since we have
Speaker 2: a very special guest coming up this month that you're
Speaker 2: gonna hear from. And I got to talk the chance
Speaker 2: to talk to a wonderful woman earlier this week named
Speaker 2: Marina Franklin. She's a comedian and an actress and a
Speaker 2: writer and all those things, and she's gonna open up
Speaker 2: about her story. And we're going to be reminding you
Speaker 2: finger Wag and including you, Tiffany, to go and get
Speaker 2: those breast exams.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, it's true. I have to thank you
Speaker 1: for reminding me because actually, now that I'm forty, like
Speaker 1: they have not. I've never gotten a mammogram before and
Speaker 1: now it's time and they keep like pinging me. So
Speaker 1: thank you for let me make I'm gonna make myself
Speaker 1: a little sticky. Go get my mamogran, Yeah it's a
Speaker 1: little sticky. Get my my ties checked, take care of
Speaker 1: those top doas.
Speaker 2: There was no way for me to say that wasn't creepy.
Speaker 2: We should go down, Bye bye.