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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition.

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Speaker 2: Hey, manga, welcome in your own you're doing your own

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Speaker 2: background vocals. I could have stepped in there, coach.

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Speaker 1: First of all, what is this lush green over you

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Speaker 1: in the background?

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Speaker 2: Is that that is? Yes, it's from the Amazon Rainforest? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Amazon dot com? Get it?

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Speaker 1: Are they real?

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Speaker 2: No, girl, they're not real either. Girl.

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Speaker 1: You see about lush green, it stays the same. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm in the Zenden, which only has like teeny

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Speaker 2: tiny windows. But I do have a budding plant addiction. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean I could quit anytime I want, but I

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Speaker 2: did go to town.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling yourself? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I have three I would say

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Speaker 2: like capital wait four capital p plants now like trees

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Speaker 2: with soil, and I have to furrolize them and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then I have like some I have a caterpillar.

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Speaker 1: Have I told you? You said the last time is

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Speaker 1: you shared? You told us? Well, these are plants inside.

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Speaker 1: These are not plants outside.

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Speaker 2: No, they're outside plants. Well, they're outside until the temperature

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Speaker 2: I've been watching until the temperature is below fifty degrees

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Speaker 2: and then they will be indoor plants, and I guess

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Speaker 2: husband is gonna have to sleep somewhere else because I

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Speaker 2: don't know if we're going to have space for everybody.

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Speaker 2: But it's very therapeutic to me. I'm kind of I'm

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Speaker 2: really loving, you know, having some plants to talk to.

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Speaker 2: And it's very like I washed one of the leaves

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Speaker 2: because it was dusty from where I got it, and

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Speaker 2: as soon as I washed the leaves off, it started

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Speaker 2: to thrive. And I was just like, look at me.

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Speaker 2: You know, mama has over here. They don't have names,

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Speaker 2: they don't. I did name the caterpillar Carl, which.

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Speaker 1: Is oh, like the very hungry caterpillar from Carl? Is

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Speaker 1: that where you got it from? Oh? You know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't even think.

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Speaker 2: About that, but Carl, Yeah, that's like.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are like the most famous preschool slash

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Speaker 1: kindergarten like books like ever.

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Speaker 2: Yes, my son, that's one of our favorites. No, it

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Speaker 2: just came to me. But it's going to be embarrassing

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Speaker 2: if he's I'm not going to really know the sex

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Speaker 2: until it emerges as a butterfly, and then I'm going

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Speaker 2: to look at the pattern Tiffany and then I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be able to tell.

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Speaker 1: Excuse okay, well, not to be your left but I

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Speaker 1: was on the twitters and someone attacked me in this

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Speaker 1: post and I kind of had some mixed feelings and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this would be good for us

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Speaker 1: to talk about on the brown of the ambition. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready?

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Speaker 2: I am so ready.

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Speaker 1: All right, So apparently I'm not gonna say her name is.

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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody, you know, just in case they

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Speaker 1: find it to be negative. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with Ryan sir, hand of Oh, he's like

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Speaker 1: million dollar listing Bravo. You know, Bravo has like a

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Speaker 1: series of like by these fancy house shows, so he's

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Speaker 1: one of them. He's the guy who looks very young

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Speaker 1: in the face, but he's got great hair.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so his name is ran No, but I don't

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Speaker 2: But okay, I'm following, Okay, So.

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Speaker 1: I'm good guy, yes, very very rich like so anyway,

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Speaker 1: so apparently I know that he is like an online

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Speaker 1: school and some other online offerings, as well as the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's a very very successful real estate real

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Speaker 1: you know business. He's a broker, does very very well,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about b's not M's. Okay, So apparently they

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Speaker 1: must have reached out to this young woman and we'll

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Speaker 1: call her Macy. I don't know, right, So right, so

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Speaker 1: they reached out to Macy to to do a speaking

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Speaker 1: engagement whatever, and I guess who. I guess they decided

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Speaker 1: they wasn't trying to pay Macy. So this is what

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Speaker 1: Macy wrote. So apparently, whoever this woman who works from Ryan,

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Speaker 1: her name is, her name is Sidney. So this is

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Speaker 1: Macy's email and I just would love your initial feedback. Hi, sidey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for reaching out to me. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 1: you were hoping to leverage my expertise without paying me

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Speaker 1: for it. While I'm happy to provide free workshops for

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Speaker 1: social good organizations, I do not work for free for

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Speaker 1: for profit enterprises. Your CEO, Ryan Surhand, boldly claims that

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Speaker 1: his real estate firm sold over one point five billion

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Speaker 1: dollars in real estate last year. Additionally, your company sells courses, memberships,

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Speaker 1: and consulting services for thousands of dollars. The idea that

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Speaker 1: your company cannot afford to compensate your outside speakers for

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Speaker 1: your virtual workshop series is laughable and worse, you're asking

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Speaker 1: a woman of color to add value to your company

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Speaker 1: for free. It's unethical, exploitative, and perpetuous economic disparities. I

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Speaker 1: sit over a decade developing my expertise and my method.

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Speaker 1: My rates for the firm Scratch custom workshop you've suggested

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Speaker 1: is two thousand dollars with a perpetual license fee of

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty dollars. If you would like to

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Speaker 1: use my expertise to make money from your audience, you're

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Speaker 1: welcome to pay me for it. Macie, what is your

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Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction?

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Speaker 2: Oh snaps. If I could stand up without getting my

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Speaker 2: mic on unmuted, like mess it up my mic, I would.

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Speaker 2: I love this and I love that she posted it because,

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Speaker 2: and especially now that I'm writing for different outlets, people

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Speaker 2: really want scripts like this. They want to see how

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Speaker 2: did you handle it? What? What did you exactly say

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Speaker 2: to someone when they offered you a certain amount or

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Speaker 2: you wanted to negotiate or whatnot? And I think this

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Speaker 2: was a really classy way for her to I mean,

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Speaker 2: she did the most, Like you know, it could have

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Speaker 2: been just no thank you, that's not my rate. But

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think when you're someone who you

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Speaker 2: can afford to say no these opportunities, and you can

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Speaker 2: also educate the person who's making that offer at the

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Speaker 2: same time, then that's a that just makes it easier

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Speaker 2: for the women of color coming behind you, because hopefully

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Speaker 2: they won't, you know, do that again.

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Speaker 1: So I look in the comments, it's like it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of obviously most of the women are like, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely somebody who told her that she thought they

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Speaker 1: thought she was very immature. But I will say this

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Speaker 1: that Sydney from Ryan Sir hence Camp replied back positively.

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Speaker 1: She said she forwarded her feedback to the planning team

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Speaker 1: and hoped it would help her secure a speaker's budget,

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Speaker 1: you know, so basically it was to her credit. Macy

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't believe that, Sydney. You know, this

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Speaker 1: so now maybe hopefully this email will let them know

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Speaker 1: you tried it. So when also asked her did she

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Speaker 1: she said, I highly doubt that he even knows, because

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Speaker 1: And so she was like, no, I didn't think so

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Speaker 1: she did a really good job. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: do you think we should share her name? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it's I think you should.

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Speaker 2: She posted it and it's like got forty. I mean

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Speaker 2: she put her name out there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, so sorry, Phoebe. I wasn't sure. I

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Speaker 1: was like, don't let you get know. Hey, so Phoebe,

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Speaker 1: her name is, her name is Phoebe the career which

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Speaker 1: which is funny, but her this.

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Speaker 2: Is this is her name. Just saw Phoebe.

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Speaker 1: So she's a journalist turned career coach, demolishing American corporate

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Speaker 1: brainwashing one tweet at a time. I'm currently following Phoebe

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Speaker 1: is better w Phoebe? Like with Phoebe, so better W Phoebe?

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Speaker 1: Sydney has sent you, and she said Sydney sent her

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Speaker 1: something to the effect that said, our featured experts collaborate

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Speaker 1: with us on a volunteer basis at this time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do not host. I know. I'm just like, what, Wow,

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Speaker 2: It's really funny to me, not but sad to me

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Speaker 2: when it's when corporations ask women if they even read

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Speaker 2: anything that we've ever written, or what our voice is

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Speaker 2: like and what our messages to our audiences. Like to

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Speaker 2: even think that you weren't going to get that kind

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Speaker 2: you know, completely abolishing like toxic corporate mentality and helping

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Speaker 2: coach women to earn more in their careers. Like why Like,

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Speaker 2: of course, of course Phoebe was going to say no.

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Speaker 2: And I've experienced that too. In my freelance writing, I

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Speaker 2: have a minimum rate per article, and I am writing

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Speaker 2: these articles about how, you know, I negotiated my way

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask for a minimum and you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't really care if you pay so and so

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Speaker 2: two fifty for an article, like that's not my minimum rate,

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Speaker 2: and it's I think for me, it's like it's the

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Speaker 2: Sydneys who I think don't deserve. Yeah, necessarily they're the messenger,

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Speaker 2: But I do think if you can, but they are

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Speaker 1: So again, so you gotta send that message on back.

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Speaker 2: You have to send the message back, but acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: it's not necessarily their decision.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she re has a boss.

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Speaker 2: They can ask for, you know, clearance for additional fees.

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Speaker 2: a little bit uncomfortable. But you have to be patient

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Speaker 2: and know if they are doing their job right, they're

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Speaker 1: I will say, someone toldally, someone is in the comments

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Speaker 1: and said to all the Sydneys out there, start telling

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Speaker 1: your higher ups that you refuse to request free labor

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Speaker 1: from people, especially women of color, you know, and so

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Speaker 1: like that's something that you can certainly be like, I

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Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with doing this. One thing I did love,

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Speaker 1: honestly more than anything with how many women in the

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Speaker 1: comments said, hey girl, you know, I think that this

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Speaker 1: is awesome, but you're actually that twenty five hundred that

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Speaker 1: you're quoting too low. So people are giving her feedback

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Speaker 1: about like, you know, you should be asking for even

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Speaker 1: more money. You know, you should be asking to do

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Speaker 1: a whole workshop. You should be asking for ten thousand

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Speaker 1: that she's even getting and she's really receptive. I have

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Speaker 1: to say that Phoebe has been really awesome in the comments,

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Speaker 1: receptive to the critique and criticism which has been very little,

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Speaker 1: no baby can do that, and that's like I know.

429
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: I told her, I'm like, I know, it just feels uncomfortable,

430
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: but she said no, But you don't understand, Tiffany. Your

431
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: ownership gives the rest of us hope, the hope and

432
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: the possibility of obtaining it too. And so she's right,

433
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to retire that phrase. I

434
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: only say it because I felt uncomfortable with saying I'm

435
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: a straight up millionaire because it sounds so strange to say.

436
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: But what's a baby millionaire? Like you're new to it? Yeah,

437
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: only one million versus a million million?

438
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Yes, well, like you know, like

439
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: I have like I'm like, I'm like, so to me,

440
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: a baby millionaire is like between one million to maybe

441
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: five million, right, So I loan her of your cult.

442
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: That's your dad's voice in your head, babe, Like you

443
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: have such outside expectations for yourself, Tiffany. You know, it's

444
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 2: crazy because you get to relax and just be happy

445
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: with I know, you know you're happy, but like, yeah.

446
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: Because it's so it's such a foreign it's like who

447
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: is she? You know, it's such a foreign thing to

448
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: lean into. I really. I mean, I know preschool teacher Tiffany.

449
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: I know hard working Tiffany. You know, I even know

450
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: business owner Tiffany. But CEO Tiffany is hard to get

451
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: to know millionaire Tiffany. It sounds so strange because it

452
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: just sounds like someone who could not possibly be me,

453
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm just talking about like to

454
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: be all the way candidate, if you know, because sometimes

455
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: you can be a millionaire in assets and I'm not

456
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: talking about non cash access, so meaning like you're out

457
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: of your homes, you out of your businesses. So yes,

458
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: if I do those things, like it's you know, we

459
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: way past what I would say traditional baby millionaire. But

460
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: if I were just to look at my my like

461
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: hardcore like cash assets, no, like I am, you know,

462
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: like I'm a millionaire in these other assets, but I'm

463
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: also a millionaire in bank account, you know, and so

464
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I just say that, it's to almost like

465
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: to not be offensive, like, oh, you know, I'm just

466
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: a baby millionaire. It's like, no sense, It's okay. It's

467
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: okay to say that your net worth is you know,

468
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: quite honestly eight figures probably if you were to add

469
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: in your businesses, but you know, high mid sevens if

470
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: you weren't to add in your businesses, say it, Tiffany,

471
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it sounds because it just doesn't sound real.

472
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Target sweatshirt that says blessed.

473
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: Well. The thing is like and having been someone I

474
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: mean like people love the headline and I you know

475
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: of how much you're worth or how much you saved,

476
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: and it's almost like, at the end of the day,

477
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the number. For me, it doesn't matter.

478
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: And people get really caught up in the amount. And

479
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: there's lots of Internet bros who like to say, well,

480
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: that's not very impressive. You know I could have done that,

481
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: especially to me, I could have done that if I

482
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: just bought you know, I do that overnight with my

483
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: with my crypto, or you know, you could have done

484
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: that if you bought five properties ten years ago. There

485
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: are people who want to diminish the number. But if

486
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: the number, like I really don't, Tiffany, to me, the

487
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: reason why I think you're wonderful and like why I

488
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: continue to learn a lot from you, or why I

489
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: want to come to you, it's not the number associated

490
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: with your net worth. It's nice to know that you're successful,

491
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: but it's like the steps that you took. People get

492
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: so caught up in that number, and I really feel

493
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: like that shouldn't be what you're focused on is some

494
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: kind of magical number. I've never been focused on a

495
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: magical number. It's more strategies and and and building building

496
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: a business model that will you know, sustain yourself and grow,

497
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: you know how these strategic things that you can do,

498
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: and I wish people focus more on that and not

499
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: just on like it's all subjective.

500
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, one person's.

501
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: One million, another person's tenthous exactly.

502
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, literally, like it's you know, i'll, i'll. I

503
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: have a friend of mine who's business makes fifty million

504
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: dollars a year and you're just like, oh, okay, and

505
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: you know I but I remember when I hit my

506
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: first six figures. I was like, you couldn't tell me

507
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: that wasn't fifty million, because that's what I felt like

508
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: in comparison to where I was before. So to your point, yes, well,

509
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: especially once you get past a certain amount of money

510
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: made for me, it was really about providing security and

511
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: safety for my family, and so I was I've been

512
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: able to do that for a long time now, you know, relatively,

513
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, for the last like you know, like four

514
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: or five years, I'm like okay. And then when I

515
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: was able to pay off my parents' house, that kind

516
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: of like marked like, oh now we're good, good because

517
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: barring anything crazy, you know, we should be able to

518
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: handle it. That's always been a worry for me, like

519
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: if something comes up, will we be okay as a family,

520
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: And knowing that my parents have a safe place to live,

521
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: if they you know that they got you know, they

522
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about food, they don't have to

523
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: worry about bills. Knowing that we're fine here in my household.

524
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: You know that my sisters are good, the nieces and

525
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: nephew are good. You know. Once I got past that space,

526
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: then it really like the extra didn't didn't move me

527
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: because I was just like that's what it was for me.

528
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with you know, living fancy, but that's

529
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: never really been my vibe. It's like, Okay, we're good.

530
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: So now I've been really facing towards like what does

531
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: leaving a legacy and philanthropy look like? You know, like

532
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: what does what does what does that look like? Did

533
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I ever tell you about Orally Brown? Did I talk?

534
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: Did we talk about that last episode? So you know,

535
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna save her for my brown boo because

536
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: she's amazing. Because it's it's really like kind of like

537
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: where I'm turning now that my everyone is good, that

538
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: I know that's where I want to turn my attention towards.

539
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: So to your point, You're right, sometimes I don't want

540
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: to own it because I almost feel embarrassed by it,

541
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like, oh, but I still want

542
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: to sit at the table and just like you know,

543
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: have like you know, I still want to sit at

544
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: the table and where my target's best and and you know,

545
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm like, will I

546
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: not be invited to like regular functions? You know what

547
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean? Not like you know, theoretically, So that's why

548
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: I'm just like, maybe that's why I stay invited to

549
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: the cookout. Yes, I want to go invite to the cookout,

550
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: and I am bey Diddy's cookout, but it'll I want

551
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: to bring potato bread buns from from shop, right.

552
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm yeah, I'm excited that you are leaning

553
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: into that you're a millionaire millionaire.

554
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Don't come for me though, because my husband does not

555
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: play that. So just for those of.

556
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: You, I'm kidnempt tipity and hold the ransom. Is that

557
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: what you're trying to say?

558
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I stay with it. I stay with the

559
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: taser on me what the other day? Yes?

560
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: What?

561
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I stay with the taser because my husband

562
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: is crazy and hit. Every time I go for a

563
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: walk or go anywhere, he's always liked, did you bring

564
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: your taser? And if I don't, he'll send me like

565
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: a picture of it. It's like, I see it's here

566
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: on the counter, but you're not. I'm like, you know,

567
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: And at first I thought he was crazy until I

568
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: was going for my daily walk and this like loose

569
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: dog ran upon me and he was barking so aggressively

570
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: and I was so scared, and his owner was laughing,

571
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's funny. So then I

572
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: took up my taser. I did not taste the dog,

573
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: but I took up my taser and I sparked it

574
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: like not in front of the dog, but like you know,

575
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: in the air, so let his owners know. You won't

576
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: be laughing very long.

577
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: It was, Yes, is there footage of this?

578
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: I know, to see Tiffany with the taser, I felt

579
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: like I had a gun where I busted in the air,

580
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: like so the taste is said in the air, and

581
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I was like.

582
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: You see that would have look that would have scared me, like,

583
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's on.

584
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. He the owner was like, then he called his

585
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: dog back. I say, yeah, call fight, no back, don't

586
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: do that. I would hate to taste a dog, but

587
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this dog bite me because I thought.

588
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: I thought that was so terrible, like we're laughing that

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: your dog is aggressively running up to people and barking. All.

590
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: I know. The dog was just wanted to play, you know,

591
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I was just like, you're doing a lot.

592
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, when he saw my taser, I said, it's

593
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: not so funny now, he just looked at me. I said, yea,

594
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: So now I was like, oh, let me carry my

595
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: taser taste.

596
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: Justin well, I'm glad that you take your protection with you.

597
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: Don't tip me strap, y'all, don't run up on her

598
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: a new work trying to give her a hug.

599
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Write me and my pig taste is.

600
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to laugh, but that it's too funny. I

601
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: don't like conflict.

602
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Don't start now. No, it won't be none, no, you know.

603
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick break and we will be

604
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: right back with actual boost and breaks.

605
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: And now it's time for boost the break, Boost the break. Oh, boots, boots,

606
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: So we are gonna boost, We are gonna break? Which one?

607
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Mandy are you gonna take? We are gaged? They are

608
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna break? Mandy are you gonna take?

609
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Hashtag free Brittany. It's Brittany, bitch. I am so excited

610
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: for Britney. Yes, she has her her her daddy, her

611
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: toxic daddy, Jamie Spears has been removed as her conservator

612
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: suspended suspended, so the conservatorship still stands. But Brittany finally

613
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: spoke out this past June, and the speech that was

614
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: heard around the world. I encourage you to look it

615
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: up on YouTube. It's like eighteen minutes of glorious, caffeinated Brittany.

616
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: But it was the first time we heard her voice.

617
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: And it's insane to me that this that we all

618
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: just turned a blind eye and just and I'm included too,

619
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: accepted the fact that this woman's touring and she's on

620
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: different TV shows and yeah, she can't handle her money,

621
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: so daddy should still be in charge of that. Like yeah,

622
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: it's it says something about our society. So I am

623
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: really happy for her and especially her fans who have

624
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: been fighting to free Britany for all this time, that

625
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: she is waiting for your favor.

626
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all just out here, but those

627
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: fans were on it, like yo, they've been talking about

628
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: it for the long time.

629
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: They're like me, get law degrees because of it.

630
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: Girl, Because you're right. Here's the thing. Even if Britney's

631
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: not the best with her money, Hello, join the f

632
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: and club.

633
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: Like exactly, like a couple of bad purchases.

634
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Exactly, like like that, that's the thing, Like even if

635
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: she does it, like to me, it only makes sense

636
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: if you are in danger, you know what I mean,

637
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: meaning like before when they really thought like okay, you

638
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: know she is in physical danger or of maybe harming herself,

639
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: but like saying like she might blow some of it. Okay, everybody,

640
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: you have you have the wherewithal as an adult if

641
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Speaker 1: you want to blow your money, okay, so when not

642
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: here to stop you, that's your business. As Miss Tabitha

643
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Brown would say, I'm just.

644
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Thinking of like Johnny Depp who was constantly going broke

645
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: and spending millions and having to do another Pirates of

646
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: the Caribbean movie, and didn't nobody try to put him

647
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Speaker 2: in a conservator.

648
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Show Tony Brown, how many time does she go bankrupt? Tony? Yeah,

649
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: she went bankrup a couple of times.

650
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Oh dang, well, you know those tools are there for

651
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: a reason. Bankruptcy and all that stuff. I mean, I

652
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: don't wish her any ill will. I think what breaks

653
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: my heart the most is when I haven't watched the

654
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: most recent documentary, but I watched the one on Hulu

655
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: from over the Summer that came out, and it talked

656
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: about it kind of gave more context around how they

657
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: got her to sign over her legal rights to her fortune,

658
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: and they basically made her feel like she wasn't going

659
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: to be able to see her sons if she wasn't

660
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: in a conservatorship. And that ship pissed me off, because

661
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: how dare you can't you see in such an emotionally

662
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: fragile state, how she would have been like, I'll do anything,

663
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: don't you anyway? Boys anything and that anything has now

664
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: resulted in like not having any any agency or control

665
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: over her life or her business.

666
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: They literally put her on birth control your own body.

667
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let her take out her Yeah, getting a.

668
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: Baby, like all this stuff is just agregious. But so

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Speaker 1: to your point, Yay, Brittany, We're so glad that you

670
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Speaker 1: know you are on the road to freedom.

671
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: Yay Brittany. And to any woman out there who and

672
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: there's plenty of women who are under the thumb of

673
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: whether it's a parent or a partner or whoever, a job,

674
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: a boss, they will have you like it and you

675
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: can be a strong woman in all other respects. But

676
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: it is possible even for the strongest of women to

677
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: be selec but surely broken down to the point where

678
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: they think that they cannot take care of themselves and

679
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: that they need, you know, someone else. And it takes

680
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: so much time. And women in my life have had

681
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: to unlearn that type of you know, unlearned that lie,

682
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: to re to recover their own agency and their own power.

683
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: And I think that that's what we're doing. So I

684
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Speaker 2: wish Brittany all the success in the world and for

685
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: any other women. I hope that lots of women are

686
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Speaker 2: inspired by her story and her her standing in her truth.

687
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead, girl, go ahead, girul Well, I'm going

688
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: to boost. This is a throwback to ten year old Tiffany.

689
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: So when I was ten, I vaguely remember that a

690
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: teacher brought in some article about another teacher who was

691
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: paying for the college tuition of some kids, like a

692
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: classroom of kids, and I remember then saying, I want

693
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Speaker 1: to do that one day. I want to be her,

694
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: this teacher, right, And so so many years past, you know,

695
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: you remember things when you're little, and you're like, is

696
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: that real? Did I imagine that? Did I make that up?

697
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: In my head? And so for the longest time, I

698
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: was googling for this woman, but I could not find her.

699
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: So I had convinced myself that maybe I made it up,

700
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: and maybe, you know, maybe it was a story, because

701
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: it was literally thirty years ago. So I was talking

702
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Speaker 1: to a friend of mine, Catherine, who's the CEO of

703
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: the United Way, and I'm in Newark, and I was

704
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: telling her how like, you know, when I was little,

705
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, I read I remember the story about this

706
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: teacher that had, you know, paid for college for this

707
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: classroom of students, of black students in a really terrible

708
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: neighborhood in Oakland, and she was like, oh yeah, Orley Brown.

709
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm like wait what I was like, Catherine, shut up

710
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: that that that'sout her name. She's like, so, I you

711
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: have no idea if you asked me what I want

712
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: to be when I grow up, I want.

713
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: To be Aura Lee Brown. She is still in educator

714
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: so she's not even in a Jersey. She's in California.

715
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a book about her. I cannot wait

716
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: to read this book. There's a book about her called

717
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: The Promise. How one woman made good on her extraordinary

718
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: pact to send a classroom of first graders to college.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine miss Oily Brown? Because let me not

720
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Speaker 1: be disrespectful, because's a grown woman. Missus Oily Brown was

721
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: making forty five thousand dollars a year at the time,

722
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Speaker 1: and she set aside ten thousand dollars of her own

723
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Speaker 1: money to make this happen. She is goals on goals

724
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: on goals. This happened in nineteen eighty seven. That's when

725
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: she adopted a first grade class and promised that if

726
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Speaker 1: they stayed in school and got admitted to college, she

727
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: would pay for their college education. Not only did she

728
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: keep her promise to that first class of students. To date,

729
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: she has sent one hundred and thirty six students from

730
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: low income families. They've received mentoring, tutoring financial support from

731
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Speaker 1: the Orally Brown Foundation for College. First of all, I

732
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: know where I'm donating donating money, That's why did she

733
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: do that?

734
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Speaker 2: On a school teacher's salary?

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00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, I have not read the book The Promise yet.

736
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: But I fanta like that was the dollars. I mean

737
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: in the eighties, that might might could have got you

738
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Speaker 2: a couple of college educations.

739
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Speaker 1: T well, ten thousand dollars a years? What she was

740
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: setting up a year? Wow? Okay, because they were in

741
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: first grade, so you figured it for twelve years she said, aside,

742
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a year and and and issued what's

743
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: it called scholarships? So I just she's a real life superhero.

744
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I just don't know why why is there not a

745
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: movie about her? Like I for the long So I

746
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: started a nonprofit, but I could not figure out the focus.

747
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: I started it a couple of years ago, but I

748
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: was like, what is the Liverature Foundation going to actually do?

749
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: And you know, just most recently I was I was

750
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: I remembered her. I didn't remember her name, obviously, but

751
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: I said, I want to do that that. I want

752
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: to create a foundation where you know, I raise money

753
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: and you know I am able to not just send

754
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: kids to school, but whatever post high school looks like.

755
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: So maybe you want to go to trade school, maybe

756
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: you want to start a business, maybe you want to

757
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: go to college. Whatever, that lump sum of funding will

758
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: be set aside for you. I said, I want to

759
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: adopt a preschool or kindergarten classroom in Newark and start

760
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: there and then collect adopt as many classrooms in low

761
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: income neighborhoods as possible over the next hopefully forty years

762
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: of my life. That that was one of my goals.

763
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Speaker 1: But it was spawned in part because of her, in

764
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: part because of miss Oorly. I am a teacher, in

765
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: part because of Miss Orly. Philanthropy has always been a

766
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: part of my mission. And to see that she's still here,

767
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: so I'm totally like going to email her today with

768
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: shaking hands, like Miss Horley, I just don't want to.

769
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Say I know, yeah, I was just looking up she

770
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: was like, there's a Glamour article on here from last year,

771
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: oh where yeah, she was honored in two thousand and

772
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: two as one of the Women of the Year, and

773
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: I just said, like an updated article. Look, she just looks.

774
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: And then if you go to her website or so

775
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: like you know orl to toothbrush like your mouth O

776
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Speaker 1: R A.

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00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: L Lee L E. E.

778
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Brown so Oral Lee Brownfoundation dot org, you can see

779
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: all these beautiful babies that she has helped. One you

780
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: see the pictures. Two you get to see the videos.

781
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: This is awesome video that I watched of her that

782
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: the News had did where this young man was like

783
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I call her Mama, Like I still come back for advice,

784
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: she still guides me. So I just I just say

785
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: all that to say that you think people are not

786
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: listening and watching that this woman, you know, not only

787
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: does she change the lives of those children that she

788
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: she she made the pack them to promise to and helped.

789
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: She changed my life as well. I was ten years

790
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: old and moved by her story and kept it with

791
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: me for thirty years until I'm now in a position

792
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: to extend her legacy and to continue the work that

793
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: she started. And so I'm just grateful for that.

794
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: That is beautiful. That's a name that we should all know.

795
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Or or Lee Brown.

796
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: That's beautiful and I did read. I wonder if she

797
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: like did it through investing. But also I'm curious too,

798
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: was she the inspiration for that really cringe worthy episode

799
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: of the Office where Michael Scott do you not watch

800
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: the Office? You don't watch the Office? To you? Oh, Tiff? Anyway,

801
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: there's a real he's like a he's a he's a

802
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: terrible manager, mediocre white man. You know if that was

803
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: in the definition to be Michael Scott's picture. Anyway, he

804
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: he adopts a class. It's a really cringey episode. I

805
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: don't know that it holds up very well from a

806
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: decade ago when it first aired. But he adopts a

807
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: class of black students at a high school and he

808
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: calls them Scott's Tots, and he promises them when they're

809
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: first graders to pay for their college education. And then

810
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: he shows up later their senior year and he's reminded

811
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: of his promise and they have they put on a

812
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: performance for him. They make up a song, a rap

813
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: song to his you know, donation, and he has to

814
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: tell them, my bad, I did not actually do what

815
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: I said I was going to do. So shout out

816
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: to orly once again, a black woman proven it can

817
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 2: be done.

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00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: She is just like like, if you I love to

819
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: see what I love to because here's what happens when.

820
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Why this type of work is so important is that

821
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: if you've ever like grown up or spent an extended

822
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: amount of time in economically depressed environments, there is a

823
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: sine of sadness, dismay, and lack of belief that there's

824
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: more than this. You might see it on TikTok, on

825
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: social media, whatever, but in your neighborhood you don't see it,

826
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: And so what do you reach for? And so parents

827
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: will literally raise their children differently if there is a

828
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed at the end of the road. Like my husband

829
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: was telling me because he grew in New York's whole

830
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: life like you know, projects, all of that, and he

831
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: said that he can remember as a kid that if

832
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: there were kids who showed an acumen, especially in sports,

833
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: they would send them home. So let's just say you

834
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: were really good at basketball middle school, especially high school,

835
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: and you're on the team and you're trying to hang

836
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: out on the block like the block boys do what

837
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: block boys do. They would literally say, no, man, you

838
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: got to go home. We gotta win the game tomorrow.

839
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: So when there is a specified future set aside for you,

840
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: the community responds differently and they say, no, there's a

841
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: future set aside for you. You can't be out here

842
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: with us. And so I wonder, how can you do

843
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: that for these kids where it's not sports, it's not

844
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: anything other than there is a future set aside for

845
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: your child.

846
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: So just miss Johnson, you deserve a future yep, exactly,

847
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: still have a talent.

848
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: Exactly, So Miss Johnson, be mindful, like the way you

849
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: raise your son, no matter what, know that he has it.

850
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: Just help us to get him there. And So for me,

851
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: what I want my foundation to do, and I'm curious

852
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: to I can't wait to connect with her, is what

853
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: I want to do is figure out between that kindergarten

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Speaker 1: and twelfth grade, what resources does that student need, like,

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00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: what social work resources, housing resources, food resources, tutoring, what

856
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: does that look like? Because what's so great is through

857
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: that one child you can really help affect the family,

858
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, because there might be more than one child

859
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: in that family, but they all get to benefit from

860
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: knowing that these resources exist and having access to these resources.

861
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: So for me, I really want to make sure that

862
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: we give the family the tools they need to make

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: sure and ensure that their child makes it to twelfth grade.

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Like I'm so like, I mean, over overcome with like

865
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: how amazing she is. I think it was like twenty

866
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: three students in that first grade class, nineteen went to college.

867
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Like that's insane, you know what I mean? Nineteen went

868
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to college as a result. That's crazy. Yeah, So go

869
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: ahead to her, you know, if you need some inspiration,

870
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: go ahead to oral Lee Brownfoundation dot org. You can

871
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: look literally she if you help her over the students button,

872
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you can see students from like nineteen eighty seven, ninety nine,

873
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. You get to literally see students from she's

874
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: up to phase seven, from each of her phases of

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: when she set aside money for them and to see

876
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: how like, you know, these students of what they're doing now.

877
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: It's just really amazing to see. And you can see

878
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: the original picture of heart with all these black babies.

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00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: It just it just warms my heart because I have

880
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: pictures like this surrounded by black babies as well, where

881
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: they're all just like, you know, smiling and not realizing

882
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: just what an amazing feature that you know that awaits them.

883
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it the one thing that I do.

884
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: Maybe people think I'm creepy, and maybe it's just because

885
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm a mom now, but I look when I pass

886
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: my school the school bus up of my neighborhood, I

887
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: try and roll the window down and talk to all

888
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: the kids and learn to know their names. I just

889
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: feel like not enough people look into the faces of

890
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: black and brown children and just make them feel special

891
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: and heard. And it's not unless you have a talent,

892
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: if you're a singer or you're athletic, like you were saying,

893
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: where you get that extra you get that extra attention

894
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: and like get the sense from society that you are

895
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: special or valued, and even in small ways, I feel

896
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: like if you can do that for us kids, and obviously, Tiff,

897
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: you've been doing it since you were a preschool teacher,

898
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: but I think that's such an amazing story. And the

899
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: fact that it's a woman of color, like a black

900
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: woman from that area who's doing it that is you

901
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: just don't hear enough stories like that, So thank you.

902
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: I will never forget her name.

903
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Porly Brown really makes.

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00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: Me proud to be in a mandally.

905
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say that sounds very southern.

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00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: A mandally All right, y'all, well until next week, we

907
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: will bid you ado stay tuned. It's officially October. It's

908
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: officially Pumpkin Spice season and also Breast cancer Awareness month.

909
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah and October, and in all serious since we have

910
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: a very special guest coming up this month that you're

911
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: gonna hear from. And I got to talk the chance

912
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: to talk to a wonderful woman earlier this week named

913
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Marina Franklin. She's a comedian and an actress and a

914
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: writer and all those things, and she's gonna open up

915
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: about her story. And we're going to be reminding you

916
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: finger Wag and including you, Tiffany, to go and get

917
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: those breast exams.

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00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, it's true. I have to thank you

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00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: for reminding me because actually, now that I'm forty, like

920
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: they have not. I've never gotten a mammogram before and

921
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: now it's time and they keep like pinging me. So

922
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: thank you for let me make I'm gonna make myself

923
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: a little sticky. Go get my mamogran, Yeah it's a

924
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: little sticky. Get my my ties checked, take care of

925
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: those top doas.

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00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: There was no way for me to say that wasn't creepy.

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00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: We should go down, Bye bye.