Speaker 1: Is getting cold outside, and you know that is my
Speaker 1: favorite time of year.
Speaker 2: Mine too.
Speaker 1: Cuffing season, that's right, Turtle, next season the best and
Speaker 1: spooky season.
Speaker 2: Me and Zekiah find it very very early in our
Speaker 2: friendship over our love of all things spooky.
Speaker 1: That's right. We love Halloween.
Speaker 2: We love all the marathons of all the scary movies.
Speaker 2: We will watch them all and scare ourselves to the
Speaker 2: point where we can't go to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta watch them back to back to back
Speaker 1: to back back. Don't let the scariness die down. You
Speaker 1: gotta keep a high level of exactly anxiety.
Speaker 2: You watch six scary movies back to back and then
Speaker 2: a Cheerios commercial. Come on, you're still gonna be shook
Speaker 2: by that Cheerios commercial.
Speaker 1: That's what was that scared we want to be.
Speaker 2: It's just milk, those honey nut oh's. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm t T and I'm Zakiah and from Spotify Studios.
Speaker 2: This is dope laps.
Speaker 1: So I don't think we told this part of the story.
Speaker 1: But in the memory episode when you talked about dropping
Speaker 1: the rib on the floor, that's because we thought we
Speaker 1: heard something at the back door. But we had also
Speaker 1: watched two or three slasher films.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we thought he had come him the killer
Speaker 2: to get us. We ran out.
Speaker 1: No shoes are nothing, Jesus, and there was no fire,
Speaker 1: No one was there. What's your favorite scary movie.
Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of new scary movies recently,
Speaker 2: like scary movies that I have never seen before or
Speaker 2: never heard about. And one that I saw was The
Speaker 2: Bob Duke. And I actually recommended that to you because
Speaker 2: me and Jenny, our producer, had watched it and really
Speaker 2: liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could not. I was getting into it.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is gonna be good. And
Speaker 1: when they moved the refrigerator and that roche came out,
Speaker 1: I was like, I am not scouching this anymore. Scary
Speaker 1: part of the movie for as a kid, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was it. I was out.
Speaker 2: My friend, she is more scared of a shiny back
Speaker 2: beetle than she is of a man with a knife.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that meme where it was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so scared of bugs, you could rob me with a centipede.
Speaker 3: Ki.
Speaker 2: That is a kid. Don't let nothing black be on
Speaker 2: your floor? Black and round it could be what it
Speaker 2: could be a button. She is burning that house to
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 1: Walking on my toenails. Okay, getting out of there.
Speaker 2: I guy had a bug your house. I walked. I
Speaker 2: went over there to save her one time, and she
Speaker 2: was in there walking on her eyelashes. She was shook.
Speaker 2: She was so scared. I've never seen my friend like that,
Speaker 2: but I was glad I could help.
Speaker 1: So we are going to talk about everything ghosts, specifically
Speaker 1: the equipment used to track these ghosts, schools, and goblins.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this episode is going to be a lot like
Speaker 2: the Wakan Forever episode, Like we're going to be stretching
Speaker 2: some of the science just so that we can kind
Speaker 2: of explain how some of these things can work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just exploring the text. So and Wakanda we
Speaker 1: said what would the technology look like if this existed?
Speaker 1: And now we're saying, what does the technology look like
Speaker 1: that does exist? How does it work?
Speaker 2: How does it work?
Speaker 1: And most importantly, my friend, ladies in gentle can I
Speaker 1: get a drum roll, please come into the stage with
Speaker 1: physics chemistry. It's my friend TT. So TT is going
Speaker 1: to tell you guys all about everything behind the technology
Speaker 1: because you know that it's not my area but I'm
Speaker 1: here to learn with you. Let's go, so let's get
Speaker 1: into the recitation. Even though insects and bugs scare me,
Speaker 1: that's a different type of scare, the supernatural scary. I
Speaker 1: love yes.
Speaker 2: Because possibility, honestly, because it's like, how can we explain
Speaker 2: any this? That is the one part of like our
Speaker 2: whole world that I don't think anybody's really able to
Speaker 2: explain what happens after you die or if you don't die.
Speaker 2: I think my obsession with ghosts started with the movie
Speaker 2: Ghosts Patrick Swayz, Roopy Goldberg, give me More. That was
Speaker 2: a good movie, and also that it started my obsession
Speaker 2: with pottery.
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor that. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I would want to know, like how could I tell
Speaker 1: if there was a ghost here? Is it a friendly ghost?
Speaker 1: Is it a mean ghost?
Speaker 2: Right? Like how do you track a ghost?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I see people, you know, you think all the
Speaker 1: way back to Ghostbusters, people always carried all this equipment.
Speaker 2: But what is it exactly? And I know that you
Speaker 2: want ghosts to follow you around for whatever reason, but like,
Speaker 2: is there something that you can do as a person
Speaker 2: who is crazy? Okay, I'm gonna to get ghosts to
Speaker 2: follow you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rephrase your question, so you're saying, as someone
Speaker 1: who's interested in the paranormal, are there certain.
Speaker 2: Like interested in interacting with the paranormal?
Speaker 1: I only want to interact with a certain subset of
Speaker 1: the paranormal universe if it exists. Okay, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it exists. I need to be convinced.
Speaker 2: Do you need fancy equipment? Though? That's another good question.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's some other things that you can
Speaker 2: do because we've seen in other movies, like it was
Speaker 2: it Poltergeist where they had candles and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: Like do I need to drop one thousand dollars on
Speaker 2: a piece of equipment? Or can I walk in with
Speaker 2: dary peanut butter and draw the ghosts out in a
Speaker 2: curtain rod?
Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because I feel like all
Speaker 1: the old stories ghost stories have been around way longer
Speaker 1: than equipment has.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 1: So maybe you just are able to detect a weaker
Speaker 1: level ghost. I don't know, with more equipment.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then another question is is once you find the ghost, or.
Speaker 1: If you find the ghost, then what what's the next
Speaker 1: step get rid of it? Obviously, so let's get into
Speaker 1: the dissection. If we wanted to put ghost under the microscope,
Speaker 1: we had to call the right people.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we found the perfect people. They are the
Speaker 2: Ghost Brothers.
Speaker 1: And they're from the Travel Channels Ghost Brothers Haunted House Guests.
Speaker 3: Dalen spread Here aka Black Chocolate, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4: You got Juwan mass here and I'm the paranormal Poppy.
Speaker 5: And this is the Marcus Harvey, the Barber Star Ghost Tracy.
Speaker 4: We are the Ghost Brothers from Travel Channels Ghost Brothers
Speaker 4: Haunted House Guests.
Speaker 5: If you didn't catch us when our season was on,
Speaker 5: go catch us on Travel Channel. Go oh it's that dope. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you might as well do it right now. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: download that thing.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: We asked the Ghost Brothers because they really are experts
Speaker 1: on all things ghosts. When you watch a thousand scary movies,
Speaker 1: like you said, everything is scary. So let's just draw
Speaker 1: some parameters. Dalen, what is a ghost?
Speaker 6: We like to categorize a ghost or a spirit. It's
Speaker 6: just like an entity that you can't see, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, that's not physically here in the present,
Speaker 6: but may appear.
Speaker 5: People who are ghosts are the most petty people in
Speaker 5: the world because they can't let it go.
Speaker 1: I died, Okay, we know you died.
Speaker 2: Go on somewhere else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different type ones. They're
Speaker 6: good ones, they're bad ones. There's your homies, there's people
Speaker 6: that you had beef with in regular life. Like all
Speaker 6: types of people that were walking this earth while they
Speaker 6: were alive. They keep that same type of energy and
Speaker 6: emotions in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean all the ghosts that we see in
Speaker 2: the scary movies are usually bad ghosts, but there there
Speaker 2: should be. I think there should be some good ghosts.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything exists in absolutes, so there has
Speaker 1: to be, you know, a spectrum. Yeah, it has to
Speaker 1: be a spectrum.
Speaker 2: Could be just a slightly ticked off ghost or a
Speaker 2: sweetest pot ghost. What like Casper m.
Speaker 1: H he was a coward? Oh no, I don't mean that.
Speaker 2: She means it.
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to figure out if there's some
Speaker 1: supernatural force, what do you look for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into the we have to determine
Speaker 2: what exactly we're detecting. So what is a ghost made of?
Speaker 2: This is what Marcus said.
Speaker 5: I don't even have the answer to that, I would
Speaker 5: just say energy like ales, uh, I didn't even study
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 3: I just studied that. No.
Speaker 5: But what we have come to find out is just
Speaker 5: that with the tools that we use, they're typically off
Speaker 5: of like electromagnetic you know fields. So typically the way
Speaker 5: that we kind of like know entity is there is
Speaker 5: just by the energy that it kind of collects in
Speaker 5: that one space. But I would say it's pretty much
Speaker 5: electromagnetic type situations like atoms, you know, energy doesn't go anywhere,
Speaker 5: It just split transferred, transferred.
Speaker 3: Did that?
Speaker 4: Did I pass that test?
Speaker 3: That get that? I get it?
Speaker 2: A on that one. Marcus is actually spot on. That
Speaker 2: is actually the first law thermodynamics, also known as the
Speaker 2: conservation of energy law, which says that energy can't be
Speaker 2: created or destroyed, it can only be transferred. We talked
Speaker 2: about that a little bit in the Wakanda episode. So
Speaker 2: what the ghost Brothers are saying is that entities work
Speaker 2: and exact same way our bodies have energy, and when
Speaker 2: we die, if we become a ghost, that energy is
Speaker 2: transformed from our human body into our ghost state.
Speaker 1: We understand now that this is energy, that it is transferred,
Speaker 1: but is it stuck in the one place or can
Speaker 1: it move around? Are they free to move about the cabin? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean in a lot of scary movies, they always
Speaker 2: are saying, Oh, this old woman died in this house,
Speaker 2: and so she haunts this house. But I don't know.
Speaker 6: We find that these goats definitely do travel. Like we've
Speaker 6: interviewed some people, they feel like ghosts have attached to
Speaker 6: them and they've literally moved from house to house with
Speaker 6: these families. So these girls be getting a free ride
Speaker 6: in a fancy car. Man, in my opinion, I mean we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna say fancy car.
Speaker 5: Them cards don't normally be fancy, nor houses, but they
Speaker 5: can get.
Speaker 3: Some free rides.
Speaker 1: This is great news for me. Why because you know
Speaker 1: my go to thing for all my friends. If you're
Speaker 1: my close friend, I've told you this. If something happens,
Speaker 1: come back and haunt me. I if you're gonna keep the
Speaker 1: same energy, I like you as a friend. I like
Speaker 1: you in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: We can still kick it. And the ghost Brothers are
Speaker 2: saying that you be able to like take them with
Speaker 2: you to work. Yes, bring your ghost to work there.
Speaker 1: Let's dive into the tech. According to the Ghost Brothers,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have a fancy kit. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta crawl before you ball. So if
Speaker 1: you start crawling, you have just what you need your body.
Speaker 2: Daylan says, you don't have to break the bank and
Speaker 2: go and buy all this equipment. You can walk in
Speaker 2: there ten toes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know.
Speaker 6: When we first started trying to do Ghost Brothers, we
Speaker 6: didn't understand any of the technology that we had on hand,
Speaker 6: and we didn't want to use it because we didn't
Speaker 6: want to look dumb on television. So we try to
Speaker 6: go in with just your natural body as you know,
Speaker 6: as as a barometer. So like literally your body can
Speaker 6: feel heat changes, you know, it can feel it getting cool,
Speaker 6: you can start feeling nauseated, your head can start hurting.
Speaker 1: Once you have confirmed all those things and you can
Speaker 1: check the boxes, you pretty much have a ghost. Now
Speaker 1: it's time. Now it's time to upgrade the deluxe package.
Speaker 1: You need some real devices now. We asked Dalen, Marcus
Speaker 1: and Juwan about their favorite pieces of equipment.
Speaker 2: And one really cool piece of equipment they told us
Speaker 2: about is an SLS detector or a structured light sensor, and.
Speaker 6: It catches anomalies on it, so you can literally I
Speaker 6: can scan you and a stick figure will pop up
Speaker 6: over your body, so if you move your arm, it'll
Speaker 6: move its arm. But it gets tricky when a stick
Speaker 6: figure pops up on this iPad and no one's in
Speaker 6: the room.
Speaker 2: The technology in the SLS detector is just like the
Speaker 2: technology in the Xbox connect. So all the gaming systems
Speaker 2: where you don't have a remote control and you stand
Speaker 2: up in front of it and you can move your
Speaker 2: body and your character on the screen moves. That is
Speaker 2: SLS technology. The structure light sensor has two parts. It
Speaker 2: has the light that it projects out, and then it
Speaker 2: has the sensor part.
Speaker 1: How does the projection part work?
Speaker 2: So it's basically light that has a specific pattern in it,
Speaker 2: so it can be just like dots, it can be strips.
Speaker 1: And then how does the sensor part work or how's
Speaker 1: the part? Is the sensor of the part that will
Speaker 1: detect if there's a ghost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when the structure light comes in contact with
Speaker 2: something that distorts that pattern, which could be a body
Speaker 2: or an entity, that sensor can detect that distortion and
Speaker 2: then will show on the iPad screen that there is
Speaker 2: something there.
Speaker 1: So is it like yes and no, like something here
Speaker 1: or something's not here or is it more detailed?
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the type that you have.
Speaker 1: So you can get a budget sensor and it can
Speaker 1: say somebody's here, But a lot.
Speaker 2: Of structure life sensors can show you a shape. And
Speaker 2: so what the Ghost Brothers see on their iPad sometimes
Speaker 2: can be the outline of a human figure that they
Speaker 2: might might not necessarily be able to see with their eyes.
Speaker 1: I see an entity, I'm breaking my lease. Unless it's
Speaker 1: my friend, then you're gonna put on a pot of tea.
Speaker 1: So if your SLS does pick something up, how do
Speaker 1: you know it's a ghost?
Speaker 2: So what the Ghost Brothers do is ask it a question,
Speaker 2: so like.
Speaker 6: If this is actually a spirit in here, can you
Speaker 6: raise your left hand? And it's been actual times where
Speaker 6: this stick figure has raised his left hand and waved
Speaker 6: at us like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's literally crazy. You can't explain it.
Speaker 5: We saw a ghost due the robot one time pop
Speaker 5: lock and dropped it.
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, you twerk it out here. So
Speaker 1: they told us that you can see what's there, but
Speaker 1: what about hearing what's there? And that leads us to
Speaker 1: our next piece of equipment. The ghost brothers use digital
Speaker 1: voice recorders to detect EVP, or electronic voice phenomenon.
Speaker 4: We like to call them notorious EVP. Shout out to
Speaker 4: Biggie for the culture.
Speaker 2: Juwan says that they use this piece of equipment to
Speaker 2: pick up on voices that the human ear might not
Speaker 2: be able to detect.
Speaker 4: So essentially, we'll be having a conversation with a spirit
Speaker 4: trying to get answers, and this digital voice recorder or
Speaker 4: the EVP per se is to allow the spirit to
Speaker 4: communicate with you audibly. And it's it's crazy, like you
Speaker 4: can't hear it with your natural ear, but you play
Speaker 4: it back and it's picked up through the silence.
Speaker 5: But like when you play back that recording, that's when
Speaker 5: you really get a lot of great stuff. Like we've
Speaker 5: gotten stuff from hearing Juwan's name to hearing my name.
Speaker 5: They go still can't pronounce Dalen's name because that's a
Speaker 5: little tricky for them, But you know, it's just we've
Speaker 5: gotten a lot of things where I mean, we've had
Speaker 5: spirits literally say their actual name like I'm skipped. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So you know, we've had a lot of things happen
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: So in a digital recording, you have audio waves, so
Speaker 2: sound waves, and that's picked up by the microphone, and
Speaker 2: once it gets inside of the digital recorder, it's converted
Speaker 2: into zeros and ones, and those zeros and ones are
Speaker 2: stored in that digital recorder and when you want to
Speaker 2: play it back, it's converted back into their original waveforms.
Speaker 2: So with microphones, as we know as we talk into
Speaker 2: these microphones now, the higher quality microphone that you have,
Speaker 2: the more that you can pick up. So you remember
Speaker 2: when we were recording the Pilot, we had different mics then,
Speaker 2: and there was one microphone that we had that.
Speaker 1: We swore we could hear other noises in.
Speaker 2: I could hear my neighbor's heartbeat. So it works the
Speaker 2: same way with these EVPs. It records sound and then
Speaker 2: when you play it back, you should be able to
Speaker 2: hear things that you can't hear with your normal ear.
Speaker 1: And it also makes me think about all the times
Speaker 1: that we listen to stuff and we hear things in
Speaker 1: the background that we don't hear while we're recording. Right,
Speaker 1: is this podcast haunted?
Speaker 2: Why you want to be haunted? So bad?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 2: It's exciting. I want to I will watch the Haunting.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Man, I see it go someone like follow me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at ze sis.
Speaker 2: And me I'm like block. So as a kid wants
Speaker 2: to talk to these ghosts real bad, and one the
Speaker 2: ghost brothers said that one way she can do that
Speaker 2: is what the device called an ovelis.
Speaker 6: It's like a little box was programmed with every word
Speaker 6: in the dictionary. So you literally hold it up and
Speaker 6: it has an antenna on it, so if a spirits there,
Speaker 6: it can essentially talk to you through this box. So
Speaker 6: it spits out random words one at a time, so
Speaker 6: you can be like, you know, is there anything you
Speaker 6: want to tell us? And then it'll say a pain
Speaker 6: or you know what I mean. It might say malice
Speaker 6: or might say, you know, poultry. Guys, Like, there's no
Speaker 6: telling what word comes out of it, and you can't
Speaker 6: program it to speak any word either, so totally random.
Speaker 1: I wonder, like how sensitive are these things? I feel
Speaker 1: like we need this equipment. I know you don't.
Speaker 2: This kid's just taking a little bit too far from me.
Speaker 1: I want to do some experiment.
Speaker 2: I'm scared. I'm already nervous.
Speaker 1: We'll come to your house tomorrow. I'm going to have
Speaker 1: no I dot handheld radio a can.
Speaker 2: If there's a ghost in this house. First of all,
Speaker 2: get out a laser pointer, and second of all, hey,
Speaker 2: you could stay here rent free. Just don't touch me. Please.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're diving into even more ghost tech.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned and we're back. We've been talking with Daylan,
Speaker 1: Juwan and Marcus about all the tools they use to
Speaker 1: hunt ghosts, SLS detectors, digital voice recorders to detect EVP
Speaker 1: and ovelis.
Speaker 2: But we still haven't talked about one of the most
Speaker 2: popular things used by the Ghost Brothers and other paranormal investigators,
Speaker 2: an EMF detector. An EMF detector detects electromagnetic fields, and
Speaker 2: electromagnetic fields are the result of an electric field and
Speaker 2: a magnetic field coming into contact with each other. So
Speaker 2: these types of fields are produced by all of our
Speaker 2: electronic devices antennas, So all the towers that our cell
Speaker 2: phones ping off of, they all have electromagnetic fields associated
Speaker 2: with them. So what the Ghost Brothers are saying is
Speaker 2: that when a ghost crosses the plane from their spooky
Speaker 2: world into our human world, that it produces an electromagnetic field.
Speaker 4: So if you break this plane, then essentially a spirit
Speaker 4: would be in that area.
Speaker 3: If you will.
Speaker 2: So, some EMF detectors simply detect the change in electromagnetic fields,
Speaker 2: but if you want to take it one step further,
Speaker 2: you could invest in something called a rampod or a
Speaker 2: radiating electromagnetism pod. Unlike a regular EMF detector, a rimpod
Speaker 2: radiates its own electromagnetic field. By doing this, it can
Speaker 2: detect more than a regular EMF detector and it makes
Speaker 2: it easy for the spirits to communicate.
Speaker 1: And the ghost brothers actually put rimpods inside stuffed animals
Speaker 1: as a decoy, and they say this works really well
Speaker 1: with kid ghosts.
Speaker 3: We have eight.
Speaker 5: Dog, which is another rimpod that's shaped like a dog.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then we have a Gangstaboo, which is also another
Speaker 5: rimpod that is shaped like a teddy bear.
Speaker 6: So if we can ever go into a location where
Speaker 6: you know, there's claims of kids hunting the place, we'll
Speaker 6: bring in a little teddy bear and then we'll be like,
Speaker 6: if there's anybody in here, do you mind touching the
Speaker 6: teddy bear? Like it's okay, it's a toy.
Speaker 3: You know. Then I think a light up and sound
Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh what am I expecting that? For real?
Speaker 4: The Teddy Bears programmed with sayings as well, So it's
Speaker 4: like sometimes you'll hear it and then the bear will
Speaker 4: be like you want to hold my hand, and you're like,
Speaker 4: whoa hold on, and it's like you're dealing with a
Speaker 4: kid entity's it gets a very it gets to be
Speaker 4: very intelligent, right like you're like, yo, how does that
Speaker 4: even happen?
Speaker 3: It's the timing.
Speaker 1: If I'm thinking about making an at home Ghostbusters kit,
Speaker 1: I need an Xbox connect. What's close to an EMF?
Speaker 1: What can a microwave? Is that create its own electric
Speaker 1: magnetic well a cell phone?
Speaker 2: A cell phone, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's a rimpot is making its on electromagnetic field. But
Speaker 1: then I don't know how I detect it. I could
Speaker 1: maybe use I could use a digital recorder on my iPhone. Possibly,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If it's strong enough, you can give it a try.
Speaker 2: I'll come to your house. We will not be doing
Speaker 2: this here.
Speaker 1: Ooh what else around the house could I use?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: There's actually there's a lot of homemade tests that you
Speaker 6: can do. So for instance, if there's little kids that
Speaker 6: you think are hunting your place. We've had people actually
Speaker 6: put baby powder on the floor in the hallway and
Speaker 6: come back and they've seen little footsteps on the floor.
Speaker 6: You can get a little ball like a basketball, put
Speaker 6: it in the center of a floor and draw a
Speaker 6: circle around it, and then when you come back, the
Speaker 6: ball may not be in the circle anymore. You can
Speaker 6: light a candle, literally light a candle, sit it in
Speaker 6: the middle of a room and have a call and response.
Speaker 6: Can you make the flame flicker if you're in here?
Speaker 3: And if that.
Speaker 6: Flame automatically starts flickering like it's little things like that,
Speaker 6: little tricks and tools that you can create at your
Speaker 6: own and your own personal space to see if something's
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 1: We need some controls because we all know candles still
Speaker 1: will flicker regardless, and you know we can't lose that
Speaker 1: scientific integrity. I'm like, I need to see the candle
Speaker 1: pattern for thirty seconds before and after, plus our mind
Speaker 1: is three seconds. You know what I think you could
Speaker 1: really use And I saw this a little bit in
Speaker 1: paranormal activity, But all of these at home security systems
Speaker 1: and Nest doorbells. You set up a Nest doorbell or
Speaker 1: a ring doorbell right in your living room if you
Speaker 1: think something is going on, put it in the corner,
Speaker 1: see what you can see what's happening all night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it has like night vision technology, so you'd
Speaker 2: be able to illuminate things.
Speaker 1: You have one of those kind of doorbells, Does it
Speaker 1: ever go off and you don't see anybody out there? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is it just when? What kind of how is it activated?
Speaker 2: Sometimes? I think it's like when a large truck goes by,
Speaker 2: it triggers it. Sometimes if it's like a super sunny
Speaker 2: day and we have some trees in the front and
Speaker 2: the shadows are like moving a bunch, it'll trigger it.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it's a spirit trying to get inside.
Speaker 1: I feel you, and I want to say, yes, it's
Speaker 1: a shadow too, But you know often in the movies,
Speaker 1: a shadow is number one sign.
Speaker 2: All right, So we've gone through all this equipment and
Speaker 2: we're ready to find some ghosts. We ask the ghost
Speaker 2: Brothers to walk us through a typical investigation. What is
Speaker 2: the very first thing that they do when they enter
Speaker 2: into a space that might have some type of paranormal entity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people have reported spooky things happening.
Speaker 3: The very first thing.
Speaker 4: It's probably pray, be honest, Like, the very first thing
Speaker 4: is prayer, and we're looking for strength. We're looking for guidance,
Speaker 4: we're looking for protection, right, and then, like Dayalen mentioned
Speaker 4: earlier in an interview, the number one tool is yourself.
Speaker 4: So when you walk into these places, you're immediately trying
Speaker 4: to see if you can feel the energy shift.
Speaker 6: But we also asked a whole lot of questions because
Speaker 6: people miscing through like a leaky plumbing or you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, the wind hitting upgainst their window. Like
Speaker 6: everybody thinks everything is paranormal once they're scared. So we
Speaker 6: try to come in and debunk things too off the gate,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like maybe your foster is leaking,
Speaker 6: or maybe you ain't shut your door all the way
Speaker 6: like it's little things like that can be responsible for
Speaker 6: a lot of the claims that people have.
Speaker 2: The Ghost Brothers are really really cool. I really love Daylan,
Speaker 2: Juwan and Marcus. They were so much fun, and we
Speaker 2: just really wanted to know how the three of them
Speaker 2: got into all of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we couldn't leave without asking that question.
Speaker 6: I was literally watching up late one night watching one
Speaker 6: of those ghost hunter shows on television, and I just
Speaker 6: realized that I didn't see any representation on myself on
Speaker 6: any of these TV shows, there was no black people,
Speaker 6: there was no minorities, there was no young folks. Like
Speaker 6: my voice just wasn't being heard. I remember me and
Speaker 6: Juwan was roommates at the time, so I literally ran
Speaker 6: across his room. Mind just three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 6: I kicked in this door.
Speaker 3: I was like, apro, wake up, get get up. He
Speaker 3: and a roof. You don't get out of my room. Man.
Speaker 6: I was like, nah, bro, think about it, but we
Speaker 6: should really consider hunting ghosts. When I tell you, I've
Speaker 6: never been cussed out by Juwan fast, and I was
Speaker 6: cussed out by him that day.
Speaker 3: He literally he thought about it.
Speaker 6: And he came to me the next morning and he
Speaker 6: was just like, Bro, you might be onto something.
Speaker 3: Man. We have nothing to lose but to try it.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much science was behind all of this.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should start a side business where we make
Speaker 2: ghost hunting tools.
Speaker 1: You would do all the work. All I would do
Speaker 1: is put labels on the box.
Speaker 2: Okay, that would be perfect because you could test it
Speaker 2: all out and you would be the most adventurous one.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all been so informative for me. This
Speaker 1: explains all these tools from a physics perspective. That's my
Speaker 1: weak spot and that's your strong spot, and that's why
Speaker 1: we make a good team. Yes, we call the ghost Brothers.
Speaker 1: Would like system, Yeah, let us know. This makes me
Speaker 1: think of all the scary movies that I've seen. I
Speaker 1: need to go back and rewatch them because a lot
Speaker 1: of them have equipment where they pick up some kind
Speaker 1: of noise, or they look at radio signals, or they're
Speaker 1: drawing stuff from what they hear playing back in a
Speaker 1: tape recorder. I think I could understand it a little
Speaker 1: bit differently now. I hope there's science holds up though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and poke holes in it, right, You're like, Nope,
Speaker 2: that's not how that works. Am I gonna come to
Speaker 2: your house this week and see you over there with
Speaker 2: baby powder all over the place and candles in every corner.
Speaker 1: The candles will burn, Okay, I will have the candles
Speaker 1: in just because it's spooky season. I'm gonna get those
Speaker 1: taper candles, you know, the tall ones. I'm into that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sprinkling baby powder on the floor, because who
Speaker 1: is gonna sweep it up?
Speaker 2: Who baby powter gets in every nook and cranny your
Speaker 2: house will be completely different.
Speaker 1: I don't need those troubles gray floors. I've really been
Speaker 1: trying to figure out why I'm so into this, and
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because I love Goosebumps books as
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 2: Is this rile Stein's fault for you? I think so. Well,
Speaker 2: lucky for you and anyone else interested in paranol investigation.
Speaker 2: There are some apps you can download, like straight onto
Speaker 2: your iPhone or Android. It's in your app store.
Speaker 1: Listen, I've been downloading Candy Crush and all these restaurant
Speaker 1: games where.
Speaker 2: You serve it up to the person and loves the
Speaker 2: restaurant cat.
Speaker 1: It's a whole dark side, the whole spooky side of
Speaker 1: the app store.
Speaker 2: Yes, let us and out these apps. Let you detect
Speaker 2: entities like there's a spirit box app. Listen when y'all
Speaker 2: do it, just don't come and be in our dms
Speaker 2: talking about it, because I feel like these new age
Speaker 2: ghosts they probably have smartphones.
Speaker 1: You think they can get through to us? Yes, well,
Speaker 1: tag me, I'd like to see what you gotta.
Speaker 3: Do with you.
Speaker 2: Tag me, I'm a block. You don't forget to check
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Speaker 1: Special thanks to our guest today Dalan Spratt, Juwan Mass
Speaker 1: and Marcus Harvey the Ghost Brothers, and they have something
Speaker 1: they want to tell you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need you guys to come support the Ghost
Speaker 4: Brothers for the straight Ghosting Weekend. It's Savannah Takeover in Savannah, Georgia,
Speaker 4: October twenty fifth, twenty six is going down. We're actually
Speaker 4: doing a haunted pub crawl. We're doing a paranormal investigation.
Speaker 4: We got some ghost walks. We're doing a meet and
Speaker 4: greet at the Ghost Coast Distillery. So let's everything ghost
Speaker 4: Savannah take Over with the Ghost Brothers October twenty fifth,
Speaker 4: twenty sixth.
Speaker 3: We'd love to see you there.
Speaker 4: Tickets are available on straightghosting dot Com.
Speaker 1: Our producer is Jenny Radlet Maass of WaveRunner Studios. Mixing
Speaker 1: and sound design by Hannis Brown.
Speaker 2: Special thanks to Christina Martinez.
Speaker 1: And Malinka Goompeg Kum.
Speaker 2: Original theme music is by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugi Eurra,
Speaker 2: with additional music by Elijah Alex Harvey.
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Speaker 1: Shadia and Zakiah Wattley. Now if you have confirmed, yes,
Speaker 1: my head is hurting. Yes, these hairs are standing up
Speaker 1: on my arms. Oh I feel this lady breathing over me.
Speaker 2: Scared. I got scared just sitting here. Oh man, I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it, but also I'm ready to run out
Speaker 2: here screaming