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Speaker 1: Cuffing season, that's right, Turtle, next season the best and

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Speaker 2: Me and Zekiah find it very very early in our

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Speaker 2: We love all the marathons of all the scary movies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta watch them back to back to back

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Speaker 2: You watch six scary movies back to back and then

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Speaker 1: That's what was that scared we want to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm t T and I'm Zakiah and from Spotify Studios.

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Speaker 2: This is dope laps.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think we told this part of the story.

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Speaker 1: But in the memory episode when you talked about dropping

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Speaker 1: No one was there. What's your favorite scary movie.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen that meme where it was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: That is a kid. Don't let nothing black be on

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Speaker 2: I guy had a bug your house. I walked. I

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Speaker 1: So we are going to talk about everything ghosts, specifically

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Speaker 1: the equipment used to track these ghosts, schools, and goblins.

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Speaker 2: So this episode is going to be a lot like

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Speaker 2: And then another question is is once you find the ghost, or.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we found the perfect people. They are the

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Speaker 1: And they're from the Travel Channels Ghost Brothers Haunted House Guests.

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Speaker 3: Dalen spread Here aka Black Chocolate, Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: You got Juwan mass here and I'm the paranormal Poppy.

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Speaker 5: And this is the Marcus Harvey, the Barber Star Ghost Tracy.

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Speaker 4: We are the Ghost Brothers from Travel Channels Ghost Brothers

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Speaker 5: If you didn't catch us when our season was on,

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Speaker 5: you might as well do it right now. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: We asked the Ghost Brothers because they really are experts

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Speaker 6: We like to categorize a ghost or a spirit. It's

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Speaker 1: I died, Okay, we know you died.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything exists in absolutes, so there has

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Speaker 2: Could be just a slightly ticked off ghost or a

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Speaker 1: So if you're trying to figure out if there's some

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Speaker 1: We understand now that this is energy, that it is transferred,

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Speaker 5: Them cards don't normally be fancy, nor houses, but they

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Speaker 1: This is great news for me. Why because you know

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Speaker 1: my go to thing for all my friends. If you're

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Speaker 1: my close friend, I've told you this. If something happens,

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Speaker 2: We can still kick it. And the ghost Brothers are

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta crawl before you ball. So if

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Speaker 1: Once you have confirmed all those things and you can

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Speaker 1: You need some real devices now. We asked Dalen, Marcus

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Speaker 6: It catches anomalies on it, so you can literally I

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Speaker 1: How does the projection part work?

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Speaker 2: So it's basically light that has a specific pattern in it,

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Speaker 5: We saw a ghost due the robot one time pop

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Speaker 4: We like to call them notorious EVP. Shout out to

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Speaker 5: But like when you play back that recording, that's when

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Speaker 5: They go still can't pronounce Dalen's name because that's a

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Speaker 1: And it also makes me think about all the times

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Speaker 1: is this podcast haunted?

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Speaker 2: Why you want to be haunted? So bad?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 2: It's exciting. I want to I will watch the Haunting.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Man, I see it go someone like follow me on

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Speaker 2: And me I'm like block. So as a kid wants

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Speaker 6: It's like a little box was programmed with every word

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Speaker 1: I wonder, like how sensitive are these things? I feel

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Speaker 2: This kid's just taking a little bit too far from me.

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Speaker 1: I want to do some experiment.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared. I'm already nervous.

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Speaker 1: We'll come to your house tomorrow. I'm going to have

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Speaker 2: If there's a ghost in this house. First of all,

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Speaker 2: When we get back, we're diving into even more ghost tech.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned and we're back. We've been talking with Daylan,

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Speaker 1: Juwan and Marcus about all the tools they use to

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Speaker 2: But we still haven't talked about one of the most

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Speaker 2: an EMF detector. An EMF detector detects electromagnetic fields, and

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Speaker 4: So if you break this plane, then essentially a spirit

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Speaker 2: So, some EMF detectors simply detect the change in electromagnetic fields,

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Speaker 2: radiating electromagnetism pod. Unlike a regular EMF detector, a rimpod

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Speaker 1: And the ghost brothers actually put rimpods inside stuffed animals

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Speaker 3: You know. Then I think a light up and sound

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Speaker 1: If I'm thinking about making an at home Ghostbusters kit,

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Speaker 1: I need an Xbox connect. What's close to an EMF?

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Speaker 1: What can a microwave? Is that create its own electric

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Speaker 2: I'll come to your house. We will not be doing

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Speaker 1: Ooh what else around the house could I use?

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Speaker 6: in there.

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Speaker 1: We need some controls because we all know candles still

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Speaker 1: will flicker regardless, and you know we can't lose that

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Speaker 1: scientific integrity. I'm like, I need to see the candle

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Speaker 1: pattern for thirty seconds before and after, plus our mind

449
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Speaker 1: is three seconds. You know what I think you could

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Speaker 1: really use And I saw this a little bit in

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Speaker 1: paranormal activity, But all of these at home security systems

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Speaker 1: and Nest doorbells. You set up a Nest doorbell or

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Speaker 1: a ring doorbell right in your living room if you

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Speaker 1: think something is going on, put it in the corner,

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Speaker 1: see what you can see what's happening all night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it has like night vision technology, so you'd

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Speaker 2: be able to illuminate things.

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Speaker 1: You have one of those kind of doorbells, Does it

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Speaker 1: ever go off and you don't see anybody out there? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Is it just when? What kind of how is it activated?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes? I think it's like when a large truck goes by,

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Speaker 2: it triggers it. Sometimes if it's like a super sunny

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Speaker 2: day and we have some trees in the front and

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Speaker 2: the shadows are like moving a bunch, it'll trigger it.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's a spirit trying to get inside.

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Speaker 1: I feel you, and I want to say, yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a shadow too, But you know often in the movies,

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Speaker 1: a shadow is number one sign.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we've gone through all this equipment and

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Speaker 2: we're ready to find some ghosts. We ask the ghost

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Speaker 2: Brothers to walk us through a typical investigation. What is

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Speaker 2: the very first thing that they do when they enter

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Speaker 2: into a space that might have some type of paranormal entity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people have reported spooky things happening.

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Speaker 3: The very first thing.

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Speaker 4: It's probably pray, be honest, Like, the very first thing

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Speaker 4: is prayer, and we're looking for strength. We're looking for guidance,

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Speaker 4: we're looking for protection, right, and then, like Dayalen mentioned

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Speaker 4: earlier in an interview, the number one tool is yourself.

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Speaker 4: So when you walk into these places, you're immediately trying

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Speaker 4: to see if you can feel the energy shift.

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Speaker 6: But we also asked a whole lot of questions because

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Speaker 6: people miscing through like a leaky plumbing or you know

484
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Speaker 6: what I mean, the wind hitting upgainst their window. Like

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Speaker 6: everybody thinks everything is paranormal once they're scared. So we

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Speaker 6: try to come in and debunk things too off the gate,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like maybe your foster is leaking,

488
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Speaker 6: or maybe you ain't shut your door all the way

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Speaker 6: like it's little things like that can be responsible for

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Speaker 6: a lot of the claims that people have.

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Speaker 2: The Ghost Brothers are really really cool. I really love Daylan,

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Speaker 2: Juwan and Marcus. They were so much fun, and we

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Speaker 2: just really wanted to know how the three of them

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Speaker 2: got into all of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we couldn't leave without asking that question.

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Speaker 6: I was literally watching up late one night watching one

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Speaker 6: of those ghost hunter shows on television, and I just

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Speaker 6: realized that I didn't see any representation on myself on

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Speaker 6: any of these TV shows, there was no black people,

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Speaker 6: there was no minorities, there was no young folks. Like

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Speaker 6: my voice just wasn't being heard. I remember me and

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Speaker 6: Juwan was roommates at the time, so I literally ran

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Speaker 6: across his room. Mind just three o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 6: I kicked in this door.

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Speaker 3: I was like, apro, wake up, get get up. He

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Speaker 3: and a roof. You don't get out of my room. Man.

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Speaker 6: I was like, nah, bro, think about it, but we

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Speaker 6: should really consider hunting ghosts. When I tell you, I've

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Speaker 6: never been cussed out by Juwan fast, and I was

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Speaker 6: cussed out by him that day.

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Speaker 3: He literally he thought about it.

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Speaker 6: And he came to me the next morning and he

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Speaker 6: was just like, Bro, you might be onto something.

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Speaker 3: Man. We have nothing to lose but to try it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much science was behind all of this.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should start a side business where we make

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Speaker 2: ghost hunting tools.

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Speaker 1: You would do all the work. All I would do

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Speaker 1: is put labels on the box.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that would be perfect because you could test it

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Speaker 2: all out and you would be the most adventurous one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's all been so informative for me. This

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Speaker 1: explains all these tools from a physics perspective. That's my

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Speaker 1: weak spot and that's your strong spot, and that's why

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Speaker 1: we make a good team. Yes, we call the ghost Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Would like system, Yeah, let us know. This makes me

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Speaker 1: think of all the scary movies that I've seen. I

528
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Speaker 1: need to go back and rewatch them because a lot

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Speaker 1: of them have equipment where they pick up some kind

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Speaker 1: of noise, or they look at radio signals, or they're

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Speaker 1: drawing stuff from what they hear playing back in a

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Speaker 1: tape recorder. I think I could understand it a little

533
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Speaker 1: bit differently now. I hope there's science holds up though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and poke holes in it, right, You're like, Nope,

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Speaker 2: that's not how that works. Am I gonna come to

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Speaker 2: your house this week and see you over there with

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Speaker 2: baby powder all over the place and candles in every corner.

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Speaker 1: The candles will burn, Okay, I will have the candles

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Speaker 1: in just because it's spooky season. I'm gonna get those

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Speaker 1: taper candles, you know, the tall ones. I'm into that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sprinkling baby powder on the floor, because who

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Speaker 1: is gonna sweep it up?

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Speaker 2: Who baby powter gets in every nook and cranny your

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Speaker 2: house will be completely different.

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Speaker 1: I don't need those troubles gray floors. I've really been

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out why I'm so into this, and

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because I love Goosebumps books as

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Speaker 1: a kid.

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Speaker 2: Is this rile Stein's fault for you? I think so. Well,

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Speaker 2: lucky for you and anyone else interested in paranol investigation.

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Speaker 2: There are some apps you can download, like straight onto

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Speaker 2: your iPhone or Android. It's in your app store.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I've been downloading Candy Crush and all these restaurant

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Speaker 1: games where.

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Speaker 2: You serve it up to the person and loves the

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Speaker 2: restaurant cat.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole dark side, the whole spooky side of

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Speaker 1: the app store.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let us and out these apps. Let you detect

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Speaker 2: entities like there's a spirit box app. Listen when y'all

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Speaker 2: do it, just don't come and be in our dms

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Speaker 2: talking about it, because I feel like these new age

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Speaker 2: ghosts they probably have smartphones.

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Speaker 1: You think they can get through to us? Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: tag me, I'd like to see what you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Do with you.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to our guest today Dalan Spratt, Juwan Mass

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Speaker 1: and Marcus Harvey the Ghost Brothers, and they have something

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Speaker 4: We got some ghost walks. We're doing a meet and

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Speaker 1: Shadia and Zakiah Wattley. Now if you have confirmed, yes,

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Speaker 1: my head is hurting. Yes, these hairs are standing up

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Speaker 1: on my arms. Oh I feel this lady breathing over me.

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Speaker 2: Scared. I got scared just sitting here. Oh man, I

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Speaker 2: don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but also I'm ready to run out

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Speaker 2: here screaming