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Speaker 1: roots Steve to Cleveland Brown's training camp. He'll be on

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Speaker 1: the road, but still nice enough to give us some

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Speaker 1: time on the phone in the third hour the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask him for some of his observations in the

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Speaker 1: third hour of the program. What we want to discuss

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Speaker 1: with you today, however, is first preseason game is coming

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Speaker 1: up in just five days time, Friday night at Detroit

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Speaker 1: Bill's preseason opener, one of three, as the preseason schedule

434
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Speaker 1: has been reduced to three games after no preseason games

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Speaker 1: last year. And the question on the table is as follows.

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Speaker 1: And the reason we're doing this is because I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much Steve has heard this, but just being

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Speaker 1: in and around circles in my neighborhood or hearing conversations

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Speaker 1: amongst fans, there is a debate on this, so we

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Speaker 1: thought we would bring the debate to the show to

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Speaker 1: let you voice your opinion what should be the Bills

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Speaker 1: approach to the preseason. And we really just chuck it

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Speaker 1: down to the cop here with two choices. A play

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Speaker 1: the starters, some b don't have the starters take the

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Speaker 1: field at all, So you can tweet us your comments

446
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Speaker 1: at one bills Live, or you can give us a

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Speaker 1: call eight o three oh five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. There are some people that

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Speaker 1: are of the opinion, Hey, we know these players can play,

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Speaker 1: we know we're a contending team. Put all the starters

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Speaker 1: in bubble wrap and sit them on the bench. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Just get to the season healthy at

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Speaker 1: all costs. And we're getting a ton of feedback already.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a huge amount of people who

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Speaker 1: have something to say about this, and all of us

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Speaker 1: do because this is a different year. It's so unique here,

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Speaker 1: only three preseason games, the bye week in the fourth

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Speaker 1: week of the preseason. Everybody's skipping Labor Day weekend for games,

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Speaker 1: and they're rolling right into final roster cuts and the

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Speaker 1: opening game weekend of the season without a preseason game

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Speaker 1: there at that end. So what's it gonna look like

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Speaker 1: for the starters. If you're gonna play your starters, is

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Speaker 1: that third and last preseason game the one you do

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Speaker 1: it like you did in the old days, or do

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Speaker 1: you move it up, give them more time in the

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Speaker 1: second preseason game and then let them ride it out

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Speaker 1: and start practicing, get your get your roster set, give

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Speaker 1: the last preseason game to your to the bottom half

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Speaker 1: your roster. Let those guys get one last shot at

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Speaker 1: persuading you to make the team, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: a full week to evaluate again before you have to

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Speaker 1: make the final cuts. A lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: variables in this and I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: really interesting to see how different teams handle it differently.

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Speaker 1: Because you thirty two teams, they're all going to handle

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Speaker 1: it a little bit differently. It'll be it'll be nice

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Speaker 1: and interesting to see the spectrum of how they do

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Speaker 1: charting a new course here in the preseason with just

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Speaker 1: three preseason games, and it's going to be I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to see if how offenses performed in the regular season

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Speaker 1: last year without a preseason entirely will impact the thinking

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Speaker 1: of some coaches in terms of how much they decide

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Speaker 1: to play offensive players in the preseason, because without a preseason,

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Speaker 1: there were some offenses that were off and running right

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Speaker 1: from the jump. Now, part of that was the byproduct

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Speaker 1: of the fact that the defense was woefully behind for

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Speaker 1: not playing in the preseason and not physically tackling people

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Speaker 1: to the ground in many of the training camps around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and so they just simply were not ready

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Speaker 1: to play full speed football because they had not at

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Speaker 1: any point in the offseason. So maybe the success of

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Speaker 1: those offenses drifts back a little more closer in the mean,

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Speaker 1: knowing that defenses will be able to play preseason football

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Speaker 1: and tackle people to the ground. But I still believe

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Speaker 1: there will be some instances where we see some coaches say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't get any preseason game snaps

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Speaker 1: last summer. In our offense, Week one looked like a

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Speaker 1: well oiled machine. I don't know if I need to

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Speaker 1: do that, especially if you're a veteran team, you know

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Speaker 1: what you have. For example, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, Bruce

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Speaker 1: Arians even said it today. He was giving a press

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Speaker 1: conference after practice today and with respect to their preseason

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Speaker 1: opener on Saturday against the Bengals, Arians said, everybody, everybody

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Speaker 1: will play. I don't know how much, but everybody will play.

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Speaker 1: And there were some other reports that he said Tom

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Speaker 1: may get a driver or two meaning Brady right, so

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Speaker 1: they'll play a little bit. And I would think that

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Speaker 1: for veteran players, all you need is a series or

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Speaker 1: two to kind of get readjusted to the speed of

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Speaker 1: the game and everything happening and around you, you know,

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Speaker 1: get your internal clock, you know, synchronized again with okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the speed. All right, Yeah, I'm good, and

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Speaker 1: then get them the heck out of there because you

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Speaker 1: don't want them hurt. So that is what's on the

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Speaker 1: table for you. What should the Bills approach to the

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Speaker 1: preseason be. Play the starters some or don't have the

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Speaker 1: starters take the field at all, and let us know

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Speaker 1: what you think at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: open line for you there one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty, or on the tweet sheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We will get to your tweet sheet comments

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Speaker 1: here shortly. We have to take a break here, so

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll hit that up and maybe

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Speaker 1: even hear some comments from one Harrison Phillips, who addressed

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Speaker 1: the media after practice today back in a moment here

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Speaker 1: on one Bills Live presented by Klaid to Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Here we are One Bills Live on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, another practice in the books. Out on a

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Speaker 1: steaming grass practice field today and after practice, one Harrison

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Speaker 1: Phillips was first up on the mic, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear some of Harrison's comments in response to some questions

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Speaker 1: from the media after practice today. Being back around everybody

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Speaker 1: having that entire spring period kind of get to know

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Speaker 1: new teammates and new linemates. Where do you guys feel

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Speaker 1: like you were able to start in training camp and

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Speaker 1: how it's gone early on? Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: definitely a competitive advantage going into this training camp compared

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Speaker 1: to last year with the attendance that we had in

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Speaker 1: the spring, and even if it wasn't really you know,

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Speaker 1: humming and hitting each other in collisions in the spring,

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Speaker 1: just to get that camaraderie going build that team identity

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Speaker 1: as well as um you know, the coesion that it

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Speaker 1: takes to you know up front, specifically with working offense

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Speaker 1: and defensive line, running games, timing. You know, every player

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Speaker 1: is different and so to get as many combinations as

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Speaker 1: we could earlier. UM, I think gives us a good

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Speaker 1: leg up here in training camp where you got with

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Speaker 1: the guys, you guys drapped at the top two and

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Speaker 1: stars back. How much different will the defense look this year,

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Speaker 1: do you think? Um? I mean, the turnover kind of

551
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: changes every year. You know, that's the NFL, but I

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Speaker 1: think we look a lot bigger. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of height. I know that that's a big thing that

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Speaker 1: you guys have picked up on. UM, But obviously we're

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Speaker 1: in the dog days of camp right now, so everyone's

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Speaker 1: just focused on putting your best foot for every practice. Physically,

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Speaker 1: you look different. What did you do this offseason to

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Speaker 1: kind of change the way your body shape is? Type? Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know last year I think, you know, having to

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Speaker 1: focus so much on the rehab component and getting my

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Speaker 1: lower body right kind of took time away. You can

562
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Speaker 1: spend so many hours in the gym, you need to

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Speaker 1: allocate time to recovery and sleep and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And so this offseason, feeling a lot more healthy UM

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Speaker 1: in my knees U kind of allowed me to get

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Speaker 1: my body and a place that I feel like I

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Speaker 1: can it can move a little bit better, more explosive. UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, real stout in the run. But as you

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Speaker 1: see that the game's change into everyone's got to have

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Speaker 1: a solid pass rush in order to you know, play

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Speaker 1: in this league and effect um offenses. So UM really

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Speaker 1: just focused on a lot of power stuff, Olympic style lifts,

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Speaker 1: get my lower body as strong as I possibly could.

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Speaker 1: I think I put on a couple of pounds, um

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Speaker 1: a muscle and um yeah, I just trying to give

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Speaker 1: myself the best position to help out this football team.

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Speaker 1: There was a couple of pounds. Um. I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe four pounds three four pounds heavier. Um. But

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Speaker 1: it's a lot better weight as well. So even though

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Speaker 1: the number is not that big, like body fat percentage

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Speaker 1: down and muscle mass up and stuff like that, what

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Speaker 1: are you playing at right now? He was about three

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Speaker 1: or eight, three or nine if you look at them numbers.

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Speaker 1: Just the amount of players that are here on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, you know, and the guys who can play

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Speaker 1: the inside of Note, the reality is there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some good players that could potentially get cut that can

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Speaker 1: fit this roster. Is that is that present in the

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Speaker 1: defensive line rooms minds? I mean, and can serve as

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Speaker 1: a motivator or I mean, do you guys think of that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that there's everyone understands the business

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Speaker 1: and kind of does that counting game. But we're so

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Speaker 1: early on and there's preseason games left to be played,

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Speaker 1: and um, you just gotta put your best foot forward

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Speaker 1: every day and when you get you know, the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to turn on at these preseason games. You know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta show everyone, not only just this organization, UM, but

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Speaker 1: every other organization too. UM. And so that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the benefit of having those preseason games. Let me talk

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Speaker 1: to Greg the other day. He was telling us how

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Speaker 1: he and Boogie are really comfortable asking each other questions

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Speaker 1: since they're in that same boat. But what do you

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Speaker 1: see those guys asking older guys on the team, Are

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Speaker 1: you just as they're trying to learn everything here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd say in the spring it was really remarkable to

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Speaker 1: see their effort to want to learn the playbook and

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Speaker 1: to get better. UM always kind of asking, Hey, if

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Speaker 1: they see me after practice doing something, they'll ask me,

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Speaker 1: why am I doing in that drill or what's it

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Speaker 1: supposed to to work on? UM? And so I think

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Speaker 1: that that's one of the most important things you kind

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Speaker 1: of have to have UM as a young player, is

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Speaker 1: just the drive to want to get better. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're not the big dog on campus anymore. UM. And

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Speaker 1: so I see that in both of them having star

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Speaker 1: back in the BIGS. I mean, I know you do

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00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot of different things for this defensive line. But

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Speaker 1: a guy that's been so good at his role for

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Speaker 1: so long, what's that like having that back every day

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Speaker 1: in the room just to pick his brain and just

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Speaker 1: watch him work out there. Yeah, well, number one, having

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Speaker 1: starback is good because he's a good friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: I like, you know, having my buddies around, and so

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a hell of a guy. Um, and

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Speaker 1: he does some some great leadership stuff that um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not necessarily the who raw up in leading the

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Speaker 1: group in your face type motivator, but he always is

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Speaker 1: grabbing people at one on one and kind of leads

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Speaker 1: that way. And UM, I think that's really really powerful,

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Speaker 1: especially with the younger guys that we have up front

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Speaker 1: after practice if they had a bad day or a

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Speaker 1: bad play. Um, you know, his leadership to be able

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Speaker 1: to um, you know, let them know that that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's part of the p assess, a part of the growth.

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Speaker 1: So it's great to have him around. You mentioned how

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Speaker 1: early it is in camp. Is that particularly true for

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Speaker 1: the defensive line in the sense that you know, you're

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Speaker 1: not truly able to tackle to the ground or hit

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Speaker 1: the other quarterback yet until you get to Friday night.

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Speaker 1: So is it for your group in particular, is it

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Speaker 1: a bit early to draw any kind of conclusions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I mean you hit the nail on

643
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: the head there. Everyone kind of has that threshold of

644
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: where they want to pull it back at practice, you know,

645
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: is it two yards away from the quarterback, three yards

646
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: away from the quarterback? Four? And you know, in certain

647
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: players head they say, oh, I would have got there

648
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: if we were live, and maybe coach says, no, you

649
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. And so all those kind of questions are

650
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: taken away once you are able to really go live.

651
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Even when we're in the thud period. You know, if

652
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: me specifically, I'm looking at a running back as he's running,

653
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, like a perpendicular collision, I'll never want a

654
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: thud a running back in that sense, because he could

655
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: fly hit somebody's knee, you know, that type of thing.

656
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: We're in a game, you can make it clear that

657
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: you are making those plays and vice versa. All right.

658
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: That's Harrison Phillips speaking to the media today after practice.

659
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Had some interesting things to say about Rousseau and Basham.

660
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: Just the fact that when practice is over and if

661
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: they're leaving the field and they see a veteran over

662
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: there doing a drill. They both go out, Hey, what

663
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: do you what's that drill for? Like? What are you

664
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: working on there? Like they want to learn. There's a

665
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: there's a there's a zest for learning, shall we say,

666
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: on the part of those two young players, which goes

667
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: into the DNA of the kinds of players at the

668
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Bills personnel department seeks out players that want to improve.

669
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: Had you have a genuine motivation to find different ways

670
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: to get better? Yeah? And also right at the end

671
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: there and he's talking about going live and thud and

672
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: how different, how it's different in the game. Whenever you're not,

673
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: you don't go. They're not live. They were going today.

674
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: There was a couple of times where guys hit the

675
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: ground a little bit today in a run period, but

676
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't live and live opens up an enormous gray

677
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: area for coaches, evaluations and players about how fast they're

678
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: going and when they let up. Do they let up

679
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: earlier or quicker than the offensive As a defensive lineman,

680
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: do they let up before the offensive lineman lets up

681
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: or vice versa, And who would have made the play

682
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: had it been live, and there's this big gray areabaut Okay,

683
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: he might have gotten there before the quarterback through it,

684
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: or he might not have. Is that a good play

685
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: or a bad play? And there's a huge gray area

686
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: in your evaluation. He kind of beat the guy, but

687
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: it took him a minute, right and the quarterback still

688
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: had the ball. So you know, what's that play looked

689
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: like if it was live, and how would it have

690
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: been different? It's a big gray area there in the game,

691
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: there ain't there's no gray area. You win, you lose,

692
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: and even in your one on one battles or it's

693
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: a draw, you know, it's kind of a stalemate, that

694
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So it's in practice and you're playing

695
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: against guys that are competing hard, but you're not going

696
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: live and you don't want anybody to get hurt. First

697
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: and foremost, you're not out there to end somebody's career,

698
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: even accidentally by going too hard. So there is value.

699
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: There's a huge value in these preseason games, whether where

700
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: the football people want to make a big deal out

701
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: of or not. The players. You know, the players, don't

702
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: give me another game to play because it's dangerous, you know,

703
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: just let me, you know, I'll make make do with

704
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: just practicing, but when push comes to chev, you gotta

705
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: know how valuable these games are. You really are. I

706
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: think you could argue, though, that there is more value

707
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: for the coaches and identifying who their role and niche

708
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: and depth players are in that kind of a setting.

709
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: For a team like the Bills, for example, this roster

710
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: is established enough where there is a healthy number of

711
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: starters where you know, even the casual fan knows exactly

712
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: what they're going to get out of Stefan Dix. They

713
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: know exactly what Dawson Knox, maybe he's not a great example.

714
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: They know exactly what Mitch Moore is going to do

715
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: at center or Dion Dawkins at tackle. So so if

716
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you know the casual fan knows that, well, by god,

717
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: you know the coaching staff knows even more than that

718
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: from watching him every day. So now it becomes is

719
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: there more value in identifying, Hey, this guy is a

720
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: key depth piece for us. Let's see how he does

721
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: so we know definitively if somebody goes down, we can

722
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: push this guy up to the front of the line

723
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: and he'll perform for us. Let's run him against that

724
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: other team starters this week in the preseason and see

725
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: how he handles it. I'll say this, though, I don't

726
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: want to blow that out of the water, completely out

727
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: of the water, because that's the way it is in

728
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: a lot of places. I don't know that that's the

729
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: case here in Buffalo. You think about that, and I'll

730
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: submit this to you for your consideration. Okay, we talk

731
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot about Sean McDermott's culture here and how valuable

732
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: it has been toward getting the most out of his roster.

733
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: And even though they had five guys last year who

734
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: didn't even get a chance to really take the field

735
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: together as an offensive line, I'll say this, they brought

736
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: in eleven more guys to compete to be starters. And

737
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, Dion Dawkins isn't going anywhere, maybe,

738
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: but Sean McDermott treats every position almost to a fault.

739
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: That's an open competition. You don't keep your job unless

740
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: you earn your job and continue to earn it every day.

741
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Having said that, there's a ton of guys on this

742
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: roster who if they had been if the roster had

743
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: been like from from what they did last year with

744
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: other teams, they would be the number one's guy here.

745
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: They were sixteen sixteen, like like four slamp sixteen game

746
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: starter for the Chargers last year. Now, their offensive line

747
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: by all council was kind of a mess last year,

748
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: but that guy took almost every snap. So you you

749
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: bring him in here, what are you gonna do? Just

750
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: bring him in here and let him watch. You're gonna

751
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: give him a chance to compete. Did you tell him

752
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: that you were gonna let him compete for at arting

753
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: job when you signed him. I would bet vast majority

754
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: of these guys say, yeah, they told me I was

755
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna They don't lie about that stuff. So you can

756
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: sit here, you and me and all the fans saying, ah,

757
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: you know, we got our team. I don't think that's

758
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: the case. I think there's a lot of positions out there,

759
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: not just cornerback two, not just tight end, not just

760
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: any other position you can say. I think there's a

761
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: lot of positions. Maybe all of them save what left tackle,

762
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, quarterback, right corner. Maybe the rest of them,

763
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: including your two safeties, are getting rotated out and letting

764
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: the guy come in there and see what he can do.

765
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the reasons this team

766
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: stays at the top of its potential is because they

767
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: don't let guys ride. Yeah, you got you gotta start,

768
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you got a pebble. And I don't disagree with any

769
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: of that. The only point I was making was I

770
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: think the greatest value of the preseason, when you're an

771
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: established roster like that of the Bills, is giving the

772
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff an opportunity to accurately identify who your role

773
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: and depth players are. Definitively, we think that you know,

774
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: for lack of a better example, we think that Jay

775
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Kumero can be our sixth receiver who can capably start

776
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: outside in the event of an injury. Let's see improve

777
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: it to us in the preseason. We think we're right,

778
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Let's put him on the field so we know we're

779
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: right or we're convinced we're right. That's where I think

780
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: for an established roster like the Bills, that is where

781
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: the preseason serves them best. It can also be a

782
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: young player, well, we think he's ready to take the

783
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: next step and move into a backup role where he's

784
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: first on the field in the event of an injury

785
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: at this position. But let's throw him in the deep

786
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: end let's start him this week, you know, at position

787
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: act and see how he does against this other team starters.

788
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: If he performs well, we'll do a little more next

789
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: week and he may not unsee the starter. But we

790
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: know if we need him, based on what we've seen

791
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: in the preseason, we're convinced we can trust him in

792
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: that role if we need it. And he's think that's

793
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: where the value come. Yeah, But here's the problem. So

794
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: you get a guy like like sirand Neil, who is

795
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: an athletic guy and stuff, and he's he is grinding,

796
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: he is trying to get on the field, and a

797
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: guy has establishes Micah Hyde or Jordan Poyer. They come

798
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: in and when Sorrand Neil's on the field, he's flashing

799
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: and he's playing, and he's playing better than anybody in

800
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: the secondary because you know, Davis is getting some reps

801
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: but he's not you know, he's taking some rest. But

802
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: but the two safeties are out there and they're not

803
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: and he gets a chance and he flashes. How do

804
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: you keep him off the field when he's playing better

805
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: than any But how do you keep Jake Cooper off

806
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: the field? He's playing at that level? Well, then it's

807
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: a different story. Then you have to have a difficult

808
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: conversation with your coaching staff and say, hey, this guy's

809
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: lightening it up. Is he doing enough to the starting role? Plus,

810
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: if if Jake Kumerou decide, if you decide he's your

811
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth wide receiver, fifth wide receiver, somebody used

812
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: to be that and they're they're not there. Who's that?

813
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts, Isaiah McKenzie. Which one of those guys goes

814
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: down the tettotem pull. That's all this goes into the mix.

815
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things about it, and

816
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: I think people are the fans are falling back into

817
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: the fans are almost complacent with how good the roster

818
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: has been. I don't think the coaching staff is of

819
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: that mindset. I think, and I could be completely wrong,

820
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: and it may work out the way everybody kind of

821
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: thinks and is kind of resigned to the fact that

822
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: it's going to There may be like one new starter

823
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: on this offense or defense at the top eleven, maybe

824
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: one different guy like someplace name it like a guard

825
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: or whatever. Defensive line, defensive line, may maybe the guy,

826
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: one more guy. Maybe Mario Addison's not the guy. Maybe

827
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: it's Basham or Rousseau or somebody that takes over for

828
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: Addison at the top and Jerry, Jerry Hughes comes back,

829
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: gets better room his calf, he gets plugged right in.

830
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens, or maybe there are three new guys

831
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: on the defensive line and three new guys on the

832
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: offensive line, a new corner and Jake kumro Is on

833
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: the field and four wide. I think that is just

834
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: as likely with this coaching staff and their pensiont for

835
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: making guys pedal instead of just ride. I don't think

836
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: there's any question that the way this coaching staff is

837
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna approach the preseason is everybody's gonna play. I mean

838
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna play, top to bottom of the Think about

839
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: what happens Week seventeen last year. Yeah, everybody's gonna play.

840
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna play. I think I don't think their philosophy changes,

841
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: but I still maintain that for an established roster, the

842
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: value for the coaching staff lies in confirming their suppositions

843
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: about who they feel their depth and role players are

844
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: going to be. I think it's not that it's not

845
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: that the starting lineup is subject to change. It is,

846
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: but they That's how you nail down who your backups are.

847
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Because if you can nail that down, that means you're

848
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: not looking on the street in week six or before

849
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: the trade deadline trying to acquire something that you thought

850
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: you had but now you found out you don't have it.

851
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: If you have these three games to evaluate those guys,

852
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: I think you get a better handle on having a

853
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: more accurate evaluation in identifying those role and niche players.

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Speaker 1: We gotta take a break here. When we come back,

855
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Speaker 1: we'll get to your comments on the tweet sheet as

856
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: we are asking you here what should be the Bill's

857
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: approach to the preseason play those starters? Some don't have

858
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: them take the field at all. Your It's coming up next.

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Speaker 1: You're on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health.

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00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Here we are back on One

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00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Jasker and pounding out a

862
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Monday edition of the show here and we're gonna get

863
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: right to the tweetcheet, which is brought to you by

864
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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

865
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And what should be the Bills approach to

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00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: the preseason. Scott says, in my opinion, Josh is the

867
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: only starter to worry about right now. Everyone else is

868
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: still fighting for a job, kind of in the along

869
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the lines of what Steve was talking about, you know,

870
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: you gotta earn it. Yeah, there's a couple of guys

871
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: that are in that boat. But I'm and I'm just

872
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: talking about what I've seen. It really strikes me that

873
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: that's been one of the things that sets this staff apart,

874
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott and his staff apart, because they're so

875
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: willing to give guys who are working really hard and

876
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: getting better in practice and in training camp and whatever.

877
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: During the season, they reward those guys. Why is that different?

878
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: And it's not going to be different in the preseason

879
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, If a guy comes in and it

880
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: has a fantastic training camp, well why didn't the guys

881
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: playing ahead of him have a fantastic training camp? And

882
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: if they didn't, why are they playing ahead of this

883
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: guy who did. We're not playing last year's season, we're

884
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: playing this year's season, and this guy played better in

885
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: training and so, you know, I think that's the mentality here.

886
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: We saw it early last year in the release, the

887
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: benching and then release of Quentin Spain, who had went

888
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: through the entire twenty nineteen season did not give up

889
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: a single sack, and five weeks into the twenty twenty

890
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: season he was released. They just don't play around like that.

891
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: You got to, like I keep saying that, you got

892
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: to pedal the bike with everybody else. You can't just

893
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: coast coast. So I think, yeah, I'm kind of along

894
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: the lines with Scott here on the tweet sheet. I

895
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: think all of these guys are out there and they're

896
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: trying to earn their stripes, and it starts with the

897
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: guys he mentioned seventeen. You go out there, that guy's

898
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: making throws and doing stuff on the practice field every

899
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: day that turns heads. I'm pretty sure he's gonna start

900
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: right right, despite the fact that he just signed a

901
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty eight million dollars contract extension. But

902
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: the guy is earning it every day. I just think

903
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: there is a genuine concern on the part of fans

904
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: that there's so the expectations are so high for what

905
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: this team can achieve in twenty twenty one. They perish

906
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: the thought of having to play any of their upcoming

907
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: seventeen regular season games without that guy, right, all they

908
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: say in their mind is, well, if he's not on

909
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: the field in the preseason, that removes any risk of

910
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: him not being available at the start of the season.

911
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, But I mean, and

912
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: would he be more ready if he got some preseason snaps?

913
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: Probably probably? Would he struggle to the point where he

914
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: would be rendered ineffective if he didn't, probably not. And

915
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: so I understand that argument, and I understand the concern.

916
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: I just don't know that the coaching staff sees. At

917
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the same time. There's always a risk of guys getting hurt,

918
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it, during practice, during games, preseason games,

919
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: regular season games. Is always there. So you take that

920
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: as a given and the focus of training camp becomes

921
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: just a little bit different if that's always the case

922
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: and there's no way around it. Can't fight against it.

923
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: You can take prudent measures, sure, and you don't want to,

924
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, like, dare him, dare your team to get

925
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: hurt or anything, but it will say this. It does

926
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: change it, and the top priority becomes this, not only

927
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: do you have to get to the season healthy, but

928
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and do that anyway. That's always there.

929
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: You got to find the best guys. And some of

930
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: those best guys maybe guys we don't know yet or

931
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: have never seen or don't trust yet because we haven't

932
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: seen it. But if they're out there earning it in

933
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: training camp to a point where you gotta get them

934
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: on the field. As a coaching staff, you got to

935
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: have the courage to say, you know what, that guy's

936
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: got to sit down because this guy's better. Yeah, that's right.

937
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: That's hard to say with a team that was as

938
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: good as it was last year, But if they were

939
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: that good, they got there just for the reasons we're describing,

940
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: and that's why they always leave the door open. We

941
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: have to take a break here when we come back.

942
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Our number two will include one of the more interesting

943
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: players in the minds of Bills fans this year. New

944
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: to the roster, fa Obada will hear his answers to

945
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: media questions after he addressed the media following today's practice.

946
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: That's coming your way next here on One Bill's Live

947
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

948
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

949
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: of unique he was kind of a dual role player

950
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 1: for you. Stave of a lily, Steve a blimp. We're

951
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: not even in the stratgyre of normalcy here, ah, we're

952
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: number two here on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve tasker

953
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: with you as always, and as we churned through and

954
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: begin we three of training camp, one fa Obada Steve

955
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: addressed the media. One of the newcomers to the roster,

956
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: an intriguing player to say the least, and a player

957
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: that we've heard from our own listeners is somebody they're

958
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: interested in, so we bring him to you. Now here

959
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: is one fa Obada addressing the media after practice today.

960
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: What can you say about your journey? I mean it's

961
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been well documented. But just just what

962
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: you hope to get out of this and how much

963
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: better do you think you are after having producing what

964
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: you did last year? Um? What do I hope to

965
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: get out of my journey? Well? Well, how do you

966
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: hope to build up last year? Medias? Oh yeah, so,

967
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: um you know it's now secret I love Russi Lapasa.

968
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: So you just continue adding to that, just um, just

969
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: making them more extincial in terms of like my reaction

970
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: and things like that, and then just add to my

971
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: run game. I think that's something something that I definitely

972
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: want to add to so I can be an old

973
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: down type of playoff and just contributing every aspect that

974
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I can, you know, from where it is inside or outside.

975
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I'm developing right now with

976
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: my run game from from the outside and both inside

977
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: and then also just being it to be versatile and

978
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: just add depth and uh and value anywhere on the line.

979
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mario, just what the fact that you're reunited

980
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: with the money. This seems to be a good thing,

981
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: but there really is there. It is like Mario is

982
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: someone that, um, you know, an early stages in my career,

983
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: I kind of I read upon you know, similar backgrounds,

984
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: and you know, he got his success pray fairly late

985
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: in his career as well, like you know, started breaking

986
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: through and then kind of getting the recognition that he deserved,

987
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: um from from the league and some teams. So I

988
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: just kind of, um, you know, just and then when

989
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: we was in there, he was working together, he um,

990
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: he was a mentor to me at some stages, and

991
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: then uh and and now I'm just you know, I'm

992
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: running with it and just going on with coaches from

993
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: the from the coaching points, from Eric Washington, from you know,

994
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: other guys, and I'm just trying to, you know, do

995
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: that drills and technique check up very quickly. He's like,

996
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: you do them as well and better than him. But

997
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: you've always been there now in general, No, not really.

998
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: But my I'm I'm you know, I'm here to learn.

999
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a blank canvas and you know, and I'll

1000
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: just absorbed stuff easily. And I'm thankful I have the

1001
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: ability to be very coachable and just and to be

1002
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: able to apply to Yeah, it's still surprising to you that,

1003
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, most of these guys have a football background

1004
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: from it is and it's honestly, I commend them for, like, uh,

1005
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: for being able to stick for it for that long,

1006
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you, for the fact that would not

1007
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: be able to stick for it long. And some guys

1008
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: have been playing it from you know, from the Age

1009
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: of the five and things like that. But it just

1010
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: shows how much they love this game, and it just

1011
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: shows how much they've had to overcome and the sacrifice

1012
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: that they've had to make even to get to this point.

1013
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: And you know, and it's just, you know, I'm just

1014
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: proud of everyone, and then's just it's just I'm in

1015
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: awe and obviously just let's me know that I can't

1016
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: take this opportunity for granted because so many kids, so

1017
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: many people out there are like, you know, families as well,

1018
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: depending on some of these guys says you know, may

1019
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: you know to get to this point and obviously change

1020
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: their lives and change their families lives. For you to

1021
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: be known as just a football player and for the

1022
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: way you perform rather than listen the guy who has

1023
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: played it that long it's from overseas, and how much

1024
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: is that a driving force for you? It was huge,

1025
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: It's huge. But you know, at early stages I was

1026
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: okay with it because I really didn't know anything about

1027
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: the sports. So I did fall into that category. But

1028
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: as you know, as the years keep adding on, and

1029
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: then as I'm applying myself and going and making my

1030
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: sacrifices in order to close that gap, I definitely want

1031
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: to be known as as just a player. Now, I

1032
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: don't only want to be known as a story or

1033
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, a good time. I just want to be

1034
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: known for my work. And then what I bring to

1035
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: the team and how I can affect women. How do

1036
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: your conversations in that vein, how do you have conversations

1037
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: with Christian who still is the be any portion of

1038
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: this and maybe helping him did through this journey as

1039
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: you understand maybe more than anyone, what he's going through

1040
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: it um. So you know, it's just it's just I'm

1041
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: just saying to him what I feel like I m

1042
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: someone who should have said to me, or the things

1043
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: that I've had to learn over time. You know, like

1044
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: because coming here between tim dating you kind of think

1045
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: about you know, you have a lot of self doubt.

1046
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: You're trying to change opinions, You're trying to learn a

1047
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: new sport and new language and new game culture the

1048
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: culture um, and then you're just having to deal with

1049
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: just all the other things and also going out there

1050
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: and execute as well. And it's you can't fake this.

1051
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, you have to work, you have to put

1052
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: in the time, you have to make the sacrifices. Otherwise

1053
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: when you get out there on the field competing with

1054
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: guys that have been doing it for so some years,

1055
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: you'll get exposed. So you just trust the process, believe

1056
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: in yourself and then and make sure that you do

1057
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: extra because we're all working from a deficit from behind,

1058
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: and then in order to try and close that gap

1059
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: was washed into you early on, And how much did

1060
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: that impact your decision sign here to reunite with them?

1061
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Actually as a d Y coach, yea supposed to maybe

1062
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: defensive for Nator, the huge Like his impact and his

1063
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: import in my career and my my development was huge

1064
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: and it's dead probably one of the only reasons why

1065
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: I chose to comment because, um, you know, as a

1066
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: guy that came from London and just not being able

1067
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: to get the reps or being seen as a guy

1068
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: that could contribute immediately. You know, Eric Washington didn't take

1069
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: that approach as opposed to other coaches that I've experienced. Um,

1070
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: he treats everyone them from the highest pay, the highest

1071
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: draft to the lowest guy that probably you know anybody's

1072
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: eyes as a camp body the same. And I feel

1073
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: like that benefits them in the long run, because my

1074
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: whole aim was, you know, whatever happens, I want to

1075
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: be able to survive and whatever team might go to.

1076
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: And he he cares about your career, cares about you

1077
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: as a person, and that's really why. You know, whatever happens,

1078
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to get better from this

1079
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: experience and then no matter what happens, I'm going to

1080
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: be able to survive in this league and achieve what

1081
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I need to achieve. And that's that's really why I

1082
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: are you down when the business side of the reality,

1083
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: the NFL having to go through free agency battle for

1084
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: a job kind of thing, because the international program you

1085
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of inflates you away from it does and it did,

1086
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: and also you know the you have to you know,

1087
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: care for three accrued seasons in order for you to

1088
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of have those conversations and have a choice. Um,

1089
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: but you know, it was it was a nice It

1090
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: was a good experiences. It was nice to learn and

1091
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: understand like, Okay, you know what certain things are because

1092
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: before I never had a choice. I just had to

1093
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of deal with UM. I just had to take

1094
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: what I was given, you know, and um, but now

1095
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: now I have a choice, and it's nice and I'm

1096
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: learning as I'll go along. I'm learning the business side

1097
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: of it. I'm learning them, you know, I'm learning that

1098
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: this this stuff is good as well as the marketing side.

1099
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: Even though I don't I don't really like it, but

1100
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: I know I have to do that. But uh, admittedly,

1101
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm just focused on my development and continuity on the defense.

1102
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the starters back, even a

1103
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of the backups are back. You're new, You're kind

1104
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: of the new guy here. How has that meshed? How

1105
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: have you kind of found a way to fit in

1106
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: with everybody having this background with each other. Um, No,

1107
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of a new guy. But there's a

1108
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: lot of familiar faces and ultimately, like it's just you know,

1109
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: we were here for one goal and you know, go

1110
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: out there. We have fun, and most of the linemen

1111
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: to have similar personalities and it's just easy to kind

1112
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: of gel with. There's a lot of characters and out

1113
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: in our room, um, from the younger guys from Boogie

1114
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: to you know ed, and it's just it's just nice

1115
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: to just vibe of everybody. It's nice when you talked

1116
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: about it's being more instinctual. And is that what happened

1117
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: last year? In part? Did you find yourself making that transition?

1118
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: Like what what life went on? I guess, yeah, you know,

1119
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: it's just reps and just being able to you know,

1120
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: think less. I guess, you know, it's it's you know,

1121
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: as you're learning, you're thinking so much you don't want

1122
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: to make mistakes. You you you know, and not in

1123
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: that anxiety and that fear and that you know, learning

1124
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: CUB slows you down. And then you know, Carolina, last

1125
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: year we didn't really have a lot of debt FI

1126
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: I was able to kind of stay and get the

1127
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: reps that I needed, and then I just I just

1128
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: took ownership of that and then thank god, I got

1129
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: the production that I needed and and then which led

1130
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: to this opportunity is here. I know you said focus

1131
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: now just the foire, but these guys all played growing up,

1132
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: they probably thought about being here. Do you ever still

1133
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: think back and go like, I can't believe I'm every day,

1134
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: every absolutely every day, like every single day, like I

1135
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: drive up here, and you know, it's it's I'm lucky

1136
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: enough to be able to not be from here, so

1137
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: I can appreciate it so much more. But then that

1138
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: that's also what lights of firing me, and just because

1139
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: I know that there's no other opportunities like this out there.

1140
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: You know, regardless of where when you're a practice spot

1141
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: or not, not a lot of people are making practice

1142
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: spot money out there, so like it's like I just

1143
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it for what it is and I'm going to

1144
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: enjoy it for as long as I have it. You

1145
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: talk about right, how to say that? Oh no, what

1146
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: do you mean by that question? Again? I mean you

1147
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: talk about other players were sacrificed or I mean you

1148
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: were put in a position early in life, Mark you

1149
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: had to make certain you didn't have an easy start.

1150
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: So do you do? You must have to an appreciation

1151
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: where you were, but it twenty years ago where you

1152
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: are today? Oh for sure, Like I definitely do. Like,

1153
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: but I'm you know, things that have happened in my

1154
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: early years in the childhood's from where I'm from and

1155
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: from the people that I was around me. That stuff's like, honestly,

1156
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: very very common. Like I'm probably the glitch and a

1157
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: matrix that's able to be in the NFL and then

1158
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: have this platform to be able to share that with you.

1159
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: But most of my friends were experiencing similar things, you know,

1160
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: from we were from a from the Foster casts standpoint,

1161
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: or you know, being an immigrant or things like that.

1162
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: So it's just for me it was the norm. And

1163
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: then it's only till I started getting in the NFL

1164
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: that I started realizing that, Okay, maybe this isn't normal

1165
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: for me, but I just want to share a light

1166
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: that you know, that's that stuff goes on every day

1167
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: and it happens all the time, and I think, you know,

1168
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate and lucky to be able to have

1169
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: this platform and to be to change my life. But

1170
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: we just need to do more. I guess people need

1171
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: to do more come back to that having to learn

1172
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: the business side of things. Who did you lean on

1173
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: for that or reach out to? Oh? My wife. Definitely,

1174
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: she's the brains. I'm the braw and I'm just just

1175
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think in your towns, I'll be the

1176
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: joke and she'll be the the nerd. I guess, yeah,

1177
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: but no, she she um. She she being on her

1178
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: very heavily. Yeah. Oh, she contracts. She's bathing in all

1179
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: the all the fine prints, like you know, doing the

1180
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: research on teams, depth charts, this and that. While I

1181
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: was just, you know, just relaxing, I'm like, Oh, I

1182
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: thought my joke right, the contract she gets everything, she

1183
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: gets everything I want. I'm good. You picked up football

1184
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: pretty quickly for a guy you didn't think about other

1185
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: sports that you would have ever thought about trying to

1186
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: pick up. Um, I wanted to do UFC, but I'm

1187
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: too pretty. So just so I'm happy, I'm happy, I'll

1188
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: go NFL. Here said you want to be a football

1189
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: player now, shifting years to the football heart of the

1190
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: Brandon said when I brought you in that he liked

1191
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: your versatility. I mean a lot of your success came.

1192
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean inside last year. What's the biggest difference between

1193
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: rush of the pastor inside and versus outside And how

1194
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: hard is it to go back and forth? Um, I

1195
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: think everything happens now and inside like it's the tempost.

1196
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: It's quick up, but I have a bit more twitch

1197
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: and a bit more like I can react to it,

1198
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: um quicker than the guards inside, so I'm able to

1199
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: just beat them on the line. I think outside, you

1200
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: know you have there's more time you have to kind

1201
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: of set up your rushes, and it's um if you

1202
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: if you don't get the get offs right and if

1203
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: you you know you miss time, move your your moves,

1204
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: it's easier to get stolled. But um, inside I feel

1205
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: like it's easier because I'm quicker. But then most guards, um,

1206
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's the only see. The most different would

1207
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: have been would have been your impressions the whole defensive

1208
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: line throughout two weeks a camp. Oh, the dogs, absolute dogs.

1209
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be a it's gonna be

1210
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: a race to the quarterback. Honestly, I've got my own

1211
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: flat card for me out there. I'm very eagle. I'm

1212
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,959
Speaker 1: very eager to just hit and go against someone else.

1213
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you're aligning against someone that you

1214
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: you've seen in a quoterback, I mean in the in

1215
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: the locker room, you kind of want to you kind

1216
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: of don't want to do you don't really have it,

1217
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, bad intentions. But when you go somewhere else,

1218
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: then you know you can let loose a little bit.

1219
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: All right. Faobata is fired up for preseason game number one.

1220
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: Uh also heaped a ton of praise on his wife

1221
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: as being the brain to the operation. She was the

1222
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: one studying where the best free agent landing spots might

1223
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: be for him while he's just chilling on a chaise

1224
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: lounge somewhere. Because he said, Hey, I'm the braun cheese,

1225
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: the brain. Honey, how do you feel about Buffalo? Yeah?

1226
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: What Buffalo? But he did say that the presence here

1227
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: of Eric Washington, the defensive line coach, was a big

1228
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: factor in deciding to sign here, obviously having had him

1229
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: as a coach and a coordinator in Carolina, and called

1230
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: him instrumental in shaping his budding pro football career. Yeah,

1231
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: he could be one of the guys who as he

1232
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: as he gets deeper into his football career. I remember,

1233
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: this guy only started playing football in twenty fifteen or something.

1234
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all the football he's played. And he's

1235
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: he got onto the practice squad in Carolina, got worked

1236
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: his way to the roster, and then he's getting better.

1237
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, you know, he could reach you know, critical

1238
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: mass where knowledge and skill come together at their highest

1239
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: point for him, and he could put together a really

1240
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: good season. He's got all the physical We've talked about

1241
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: the physical trades he possesses. You can see it there

1242
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: if you're the MSG viewers are looking at together guy.

1243
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: He's six five plus and he's thirty six. He's he's huge.

1244
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: The guys even when he out of think if it

1245
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: weren't for Greg Russou, Obada would stand out athletically on

1246
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 1: the field. He does stand out athletically but just stand

1247
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: around looking at these guys. He stands out and would

1248
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: be the tallest guy out there if it weren't for

1249
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: Greg Russo. Obada's got all the elite traits physically, and

1250
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, like you gathered in the in the interview there,

1251
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, he just lacks experience and you know, having

1252
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: not grown up playing the game. That's why I found

1253
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: it so interesting how he described the path that he

1254
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: and Christian Wade are on and what they have to

1255
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: do to make up for lost time that they just

1256
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: simply can't get back. They're competing with guys who have

1257
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: played this sport since they're about six years old, for

1258
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: seven years old, yeah, for a decade and a half

1259
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: most of them. So to come in with only a

1260
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: few years of experience, they say, well, how do you

1261
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: make up for that? He says, we have to sacrifice

1262
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: every extra waking moment we have, we have to put

1263
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: into the game if we're ever going to try to

1264
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: even somewhat close the gap that exists there, and it's

1265
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: an undeniable gap. There are going to be things that

1266
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: you're going to miss. But if you're as physically gifted

1267
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: as f A Obada, you got a pretty good chance

1268
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: to even be on a roster like this. And plus

1269
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: he's there's certain things that are that don't get in

1270
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: his way as well. For instance, there's never been a

1271
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 1: time when you know, when you're a gifted athlete, and

1272
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: like so many guys we hear about, you know, all

1273
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Speaker 1: the way for like hinz War and all these other teams,

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: other positions is like you know, even Dawson Knoxi's well,

1275
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: he played quarterback in high school. You know, guys like

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: Bryan Tannehill was a wide receiver and then got drafted

1277
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: and you got changed in hot college guys. You know,

1278
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: all these guys at some point during the career changed positions.

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: One of the things that that's not going to be

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01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: an issue for these guys. Plus, they can be so

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: specialized in their focus about how to get better and

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: where to get better. They don't get distracted by you know,

1283
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: they never had they were they've only been a professional player, right,

1284
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: So they come in and they don't know what it's

1285
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: like to have to you know, go to class and

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01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: get distracted and none of that stuff, some of that

1287
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: clutter that you bring with you from other experiences and

1288
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: other teams, and it just it gets in your way sometimes,

1289
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: so the fact that they could probably come in with

1290
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: a clean slate in some ways, other players, you know,

1291
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: a long line said, Wow, I wish I didn't have

1292
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I didn't have that in my

1293
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: past or I wish it didn't have to unlearn what

1294
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: I learned as a tight end and now can think

1295
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: about as a you know, as a wide receiver or

1296
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: vice versa a wide receiver tight end. Some of that

1297
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: stuff doesn't get in their way, but nevertheless, it is

1298
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: a vast chasm between a kid, a guy who's played

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: the game for fifteen years at four different levels, and

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: a guy who comes in and tries to jump into

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: the highest level. You can only imagine, you know, how

1302
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: deep that pool run water in. And the other comment

1303
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: that he made that kind of perked my ears up

1304
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: a little bit was when he was talking about trying

1305
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: to make up the lost ground that he has just

1306
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: by not being in this game as long as most

1307
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: of the guys he's lining up with a practice every day.

1308
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: Is the times where he would observe a player that

1309
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: he sees a similar physical stature and skill set, like

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Mario Addison is a guy that was his teammate in

1311
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: Carolina is his teammate now again here in Buffalo, and

1312
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: he was talking about how he would watch the little

1313
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: nuances of how Mario Addison executes a pass RUSS technique

1314
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: or tries to set up an offensive tackle to win

1315
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: in a one on one situation. So even when he's

1316
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 1: not taking said rep, he's trying to incorporate what he's observing,

1317
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: just from a veteran player who he thinks, well, you know,

1318
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: I can probably do a lot of the same things

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: that Mario can do physically. I just have to learn

1320
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: them number one and then perfect them number two. But

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01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: I like his chances though. I think he's I think

1322
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 1: he's got a very good chance to make this fifty

1323
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 1: three man roster if he puts together a solid preseason.

1324
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a lock, which is saying something. With

1325
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: all the talent, young talent that's been added the last

1326
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: two years. And I'll say this too, We've talked about

1327
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: it a lot. This coaching staff's gotta be looking at

1328
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: fa Obada plus given the history they have with the

1329
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: guys who have coached him in the past, Eric Washington,

1330
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: no question, and Mario Addison. This coaching staff's got to

1331
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: be looking at fa Obada thinking this is a guy

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: that could really help us on his high end. And

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: I'll bet you and a lot of coaches think this,

1334
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: but this staff has proven it true. They're gonna get

1335
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: the most we gotta. We're gonna get more out of

1336
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: them they did in Carolina. We're gonna get more out

1337
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: of him than they did because we, you know, we

1338
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: do things differently here. We're gonna be patient with him.

1339
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna start building on what he has done and

1340
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: get him there faster. Development in this building is a

1341
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: thing that they take great pride in and do really well.

1342
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: And I think their knowledge about their own ability to

1343
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: get the most out of him sets them up for

1344
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: a lot of optimism about what he's going to be

1345
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, which is why I think too. I

1346
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: think I think the guy's a shoe in for a

1347
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: rosters And if there's one place where he seems to

1348
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: have a pretty good level of confidence already, it's when

1349
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: they move him down inside. I mean, he said himself today,

1350
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I have the upper hand on most

1351
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: guards in this league. Right, He's quicker than most guards. Yeah,

1352
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: And he's probably right. And when you factor in thirty

1353
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: six inch arms in that hand fighting battle against a guard. Now,

1354
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: not a tackle who usually has comparably long arms. You're

1355
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: playing against a guard who's got thirty three inch arms.

1356
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: There's a pretty good chance you're getting into their chest

1357
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: before they're getting into yours. Yeah, you can create space

1358
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: down in there where there's usually not much space to

1359
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: be had, and that's a huge advantage. Um, yeah, that'll

1360
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: be interesting. And you could think about so, and I'm

1361
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, we can always throw this stuff out there,

1362
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: and who knows what experiment away, Steve. Let's just let's

1363
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: just hypotheticalize this, love it fa oboda. And they're long

1364
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: thirty you know, these thirty whatever inch arms, these you know, tentacles.

1365
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: He's got his arms next to Greg Russo, who kicks

1366
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: down inside. I was just thinking the same. And Jerry

1367
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 1: Hugh's on the outside and Mario Addison on the outside

1368
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: of him, or or Epinessa who's equally long on the outside,

1369
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're rushing with you know, yeah,

1370
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: you're trying to throw over an eight foot hedge. Yeah right,

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: And it's a it's an issue, particularly if those two

1372
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: guys down inside like fa Obada and Greg Russau can

1373
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: get some push up inside. And that's one of the reasons,

1374
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh, the defensive lineman from from

1375
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: La I can't think of his Aaron Aaron Donald. That's

1376
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he's so effective. Even if they're

1377
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: blocking him, they're moving backwards at a high rate of speed,

1378
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks got to get out of the way

1379
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: of the rush even if the guy's not, you know,

1380
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: coming free. And you can't play the low center of

1381
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: gravity game against Obada and Rousseau because they'll just swim

1382
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: over you. Yeah, and they're already passed you. Well, And

1383
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: then that's the thing too, And it's easy the kids

1384
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: sit and sit and not have to worry about the

1385
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: guy just clearing right over your head. They swim over

1386
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: the top of your anchor as an offensive into your

1387
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. If you anchor and get your feet on

1388
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: the ground and drop down and try and you know

1389
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: even kind of lift up. You got to brace so

1390
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: hard to do that because of their size and strength

1391
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: that you end up, you know, whiffing on an air.

1392
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: You know they're out of you know, they're so slippery.

1393
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: You just fall on your face when they get between you. Um,

1394
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's that's what rushing from the inside can

1395
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: do and what's what it can bring you. I think

1396
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: it's a really intriguing possibility. We'll probably get a chance

1397
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: to see it in the preseason. But you know, I'm

1398
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: with you. I there's so many experiments and permutations with

1399
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: the rotation that they could possibly have, and we've seen

1400
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: a lot of it in practice, so it's it's impossible

1401
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: to keep up with I don't you know, I don't

1402
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: you can't even I mean, you know, we don't talk

1403
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: about matchups and anything that's going on. But it's not

1404
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. It's like having

1405
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: sixteen It's like an science experiment. You got sixteen test

1406
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: tubes and you're trying to find the right mix to

1407
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: make some concoction. You're not quite sure what it's supposed

1408
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: to look like anyway. But they're not even just rotating

1409
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: ends in for ends. There. They've got the position flexibility

1410
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: where they're just moving people up and down, left to right.

1411
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: It's left, right and center. I mean there, I don't

1412
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: know if they're doing in this. I know they're probably

1413
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: doing it saying yes, it's there's a we have a

1414
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: systematic way, but I'm literally talking about like a spreadsheet

1415
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: for all the guys they have to rotate in at

1416
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: this spot. And now he's in this spot with this

1417
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: guy and that guy and that guy. But he's gonna

1418
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: play this spot with a different guy and two different

1419
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: guys on the outside, and he's gonna play this other

1420
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: spot with three different guys. You know, how do you

1421
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: know the best combination? It's impossible, you know, And they

1422
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: got and you've only got so many snaps to get

1423
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: that done. And you're talking about you'd have to take

1424
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: a thousand snaps to get close to having in your

1425
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: handle on that, right, you would think. I mean, it's

1426
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: just there's too many permutations of a four man rotation

1427
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: with sixteen possible guys on the roster at four different spots. Yeah,

1428
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 1: it's fascinating just because of all the options that exist

1429
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: there right now. That's why it's so fascinating. And some

1430
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,520
Speaker 1: of those guys, we don't even know what they ultimately

1431
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: could become yet, Like we don't know what the heck

1432
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: Russo is going to become. It, you know, at the

1433
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: peak of his career, bashing the same obada, I mean,

1434
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: run down the list. How versatile can they be? How

1435
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: successful can they be in a versatile type role? Like

1436
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,879
Speaker 1: it's all that on top up of the general stuff

1437
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: like how much of a jump does the pass rush take?

1438
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: Is the runde more consistent this year? There's just so

1439
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: many things variables surrounding the d line. Variables are limitless,

1440
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: and so are the possibilities and how to sort through that.

1441
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you really do like these codes. You gotta

1442
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: have a PhD In in football and evaluation and coaching.

1443
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's really rough, but it's gonna be fun.

1444
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh it's yeah, it's it's fascinating. Yeah, break time for

1445
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: us here when we come back. More of your thoughts

1446
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet is we're asking you what should

1447
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: be the Bills approach in the preseason with respect to

1448
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: playing starters. Play him some or put them in bubble

1449
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: wrap and get them out for Week one. You let

1450
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: us know what you think at eighth, three, five fifty

1451
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: or on the tweet cheat at one Bills Live. We're

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: back with more here on one Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: a Collid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio Come Back.

1454
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: Second half of the show under way. Hitting the tweet

1455
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 1: sheet now with respect to what should be the Bills

1456
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: approach to the preseason first game coming up Friday night

1457
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: in Detroit, Chris on the tweet sheet says, maybe some

1458
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: playing time, but they didn't play any games last year

1459
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: and that worked out. I really don't want injuries. I

1460
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: think that's the crux of the concern on the part

1461
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: of Bills fans. They know they have a good team.

1462
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: They don't want to see anybody subtracted from the lineup

1463
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: by playing in the preseason and being lost for several

1464
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: weeks to an injury of some kind. They want to

1465
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: upset the apple cart. Steve, Yeah, you don't want to

1466
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: roll the dice, but you still have to play the

1467
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: game and you want your guys as sharp as they

1468
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: can be. And like I said, one of the things

1469
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: that gets to be a problem when you go out

1470
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: there when you're worried about injury all of that, that

1471
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: when you start telling guys, oh, don't we don't want

1472
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: to play you too much, and they go ahead and

1473
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: go have fun, you know, go out and go out

1474
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: and play. Well, how much is not too much? And

1475
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: I've I've always been a big proponent. Just tell them

1476
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: exactly how much they're gonna play. Then they can get

1477
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: their mind around it. When the ends there, it's there.

1478
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: But they can play hard until the end. They don't

1479
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: have to, you know, play a series and then a

1480
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: second series and start saying, okay, looking at every between

1481
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: every player, you're looking at the sidelight going am I

1482
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: getting taken out now? Or do I have to play

1483
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: another play? That's no place to be on a football field.

1484
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: So as specific as you can be telling these guys

1485
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna play until this point on the on the

1486
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: clock or this many plays and that's it. So you know,

1487
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: that's when guys can play and be free and not

1488
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: worry about it. Other than that, then they go out

1489
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: there and they're kind of like they don't even play

1490
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: well because they're worried about you know, how long they're

1491
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna play and what the risk is this is my

1492
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: last series. Yeah, it's it's a problem. It's always a gamble.

1493
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, whether you're practicing or playing, and

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: whether it's you get through the preseason healthy as can be,

1495
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: three plays into your opening game, you could be hurt.

1496
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: There's no reason to think. You know that it couldn't

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01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: happen at a worse time than the preseason, or because

1498
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: it could, you know. So it's I don't know that

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: it's right or wrong to worry about it. I don't

1500
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: think you should worry about it. You can play the

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01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: percentages if you want. But if you're gonna, if you're

1502
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna get these guys ready, do what it takes to

1503
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: get them ready and then expect them to get through

1504
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: it healthy. Jay madd says, I would say don't start

1505
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: them if they've been in the league more than two years,

1506
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: they already know what's expected of them. Don't want to

1507
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: risk injury. Also, let's see what the young guys having,

1508
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: get them some experience. I think you can accomplish that

1509
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: even by playing your starters some. I mean, that's kind

1510
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: of been the formula we've seen to a great degree

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: in past years. You play your starters a little bit

1512
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: in the first preseason game, let some of the you know,

1513
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: younger players or the backup players get more of the

1514
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: playing time to demonstrate what they can do for you

1515
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: in a game like setting, and you go from there.

1516
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: But there's there are the main crux of the preseason

1517
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: is to make sure your starters are ready for the

1518
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: regular season, so you get them adjusted to the tempo again, hitting, tackling, catching, blocking, whatever,

1519
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: and then you work on getting some valuable experience for

1520
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: some of the youngest players on your roster as to

1521
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: what they're walking into when they get to the regular

1522
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: season in case they're needed, and to evaluate those players

1523
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: to see, well, what kind of a track are they on?

1524
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Are they had a fast track? This isn't too big

1525
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: for them. First preseason game, they were on it like

1526
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: they knew everything they had to do. I even saw

1527
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: some anticipatory skills in them. They were reading the game.

1528
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: They were comfortable and instinctive. Oh that's a kid we

1529
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: can probably trust come second half of the season if

1530
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: we need him. That's and that's really what the crux

1531
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: of this whole thing is about. Sean McDermott, will and

1532
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: his staff will be able to say, listen for these

1533
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: for this guy. And everybody's different, and that's one problem.

1534
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: You've got ninety of them and they're all different. But

1535
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: for God like it, Micah Hyde, you know he needs

1536
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: one series, all three games. He's ready, because that's what

1537
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: you're drying to do. You're getting him ready, you know,

1538
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: what he can do. If somebody's outperforming, that's one thing,

1539
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: and the things we've been talking about, evaluation, all that,

1540
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: but you gotta do what you can to get them

1541
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: ready to play against the Steelers on September twelfth. Do

1542
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: what it takes to get him ready. And if that

1543
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: means one guy has to play every single snap, I'm

1544
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: exaggerating obviously, but if it takes one guy to play

1545
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: every single snap of the preseason, he'll be ready. Okay,

1546
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: do it. But if somebody else says, if you know

1547
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: you're in a baseball cap for the entire preseason, that's

1548
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: what you gotta know and what you got to expect

1549
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: him to do. And that's that's because that's what it's

1550
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: all about for those guys. Now, if there's other guys,

1551
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: you say, listen, I don't know. I think this guy's

1552
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: got a chance to really play for us. You gotta

1553
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do to find that out. Forget

1554
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: about the Pittsburgh Steelers. If this guy can play for us,

1555
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: find out, give him as much as it takes until

1556
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: we know. Now, throw all that into one team and

1557
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of problems to face. You got

1558
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot of problems to solve and a lot of

1559
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: information to sort out. But that's the job. That's the job.

1560
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: And now you know, Sean McDermott doesn't do it alone.

1561
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: He's got position coaches, he's got scouts. You've got the GM,

1562
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: you've got all these guys looking at and you've got

1563
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, the wide receivers coaches watching the dbs every

1564
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: day and one on one's just like he's watching his players.

1565
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: You got the dB coach watching the wide receivers against

1566
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: his guys one on one, and you got you got

1567
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: some give and take, but all that stuff. You gotta

1568
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: find out if you know a guy can play and

1569
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: you know was top end, get him ready to play

1570
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: opening day. If you if you got a guy you

1571
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know about, do whatever it takes to find out.

1572
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: And then then I mean it's it's a it's a

1573
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: gargantuan job. Then you got to find out which guys

1574
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: play best together. Oh my gosh. I mean it's that's

1575
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: why you know, football guys drive, you know, that's why

1576
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: those guys get four hours of sleeping eye during training camp.

1577
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: There they got a lot to do. They got a

1578
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: lot to do, and a lot of players they got

1579
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: to find out about and evaluate. So it's because the

1580
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is not get a

1581
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: full evaluation on somebody. You cut him and you miss

1582
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: on him, think latch somewhere else. And they go on

1583
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: to have a very productive NFL career and you're like, man,

1584
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: how do we miss that? Think about it? And they

1585
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: traded Wyatt Teller yea and a year or four year later,

1586
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: fifteen months later, he's an All Pro guard, All Pro

1587
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: like best. Yeah, you know, he was a fifth round

1588
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: draft pick here and he was okay as good. They

1589
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: liked him, but they got a chance to bump up

1590
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: and do some things that you know, they didn't need

1591
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: him at that point, particularly the player he was then

1592
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: they didn't know. You know that It's okay, he moves

1593
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: on and then he becomes an All Pro, but it

1594
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: was you know, that kind of stuff can happen. You

1595
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: don't want that to happen every year, right, So that's

1596
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: the risk you take when you start missing on evaluations

1597
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: or a guy blossoms after the fact. That's why they

1598
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: go through it with a fine tooth call, and that's

1599
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: why they give younger players as much time on the

1600
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: field as possible. In the preseason so they can get

1601
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: as accurate a read on some of these up and

1602
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: coming players as best as possible with their coaching eye,

1603
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: Evans says, play the starters for a series or two

1604
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: just to get their sea legs, then take him out.

1605
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I think that there's a strong possibility that that's exactly

1606
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: what we'll see come Friday night. Anyway, where it could

1607
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: get different is in games two and three. What is

1608
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: the dress rehearsal game for the starters where they play

1609
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: the most. You don't have a fourth preseason game anymore.

1610
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: The third preseason game used to be the major dress

1611
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: rehearsal for most starting units. Is it's still the third

1612
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: game because you're still two weeks away from the season opener.

1613
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Or do some teams choose to make it the second

1614
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: preseason game and let the third preseason game be all

1615
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: about young guys trying to make the roster for spots

1616
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: fifty fifty one, fifty two and fifty three. Right, that's

1617
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: the question. And I think there will be different approaches

1618
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: by the thirty two teams this year, don't you if

1619
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: there will be? Because all their rosters are different, the

1620
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: strength of different priorities they've got different priorities they're trying

1621
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: to find. You know, they say, for instance, the Dolphins

1622
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: lost four or five starters, six starters over the last year.

1623
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: They got to fill those spots with guys. Other teams

1624
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: are more solidified, like Buffalo, they didn't. They're not going

1625
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: to churn the roster over, you know that much. They

1626
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: may have some, but that's not the idea. So training

1627
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: camp has a different field to it. The coaching staff

1628
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: have different priorities when they have valuate, They've got questions. Yes, certainly,

1629
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: they'll ask themselves the same questions as that like a

1630
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 1: Dolphins staff or a San Diego or LA staff or somebody,

1631
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: but the priorities are different. You know, they're not they

1632
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: don't have their feet to the fire trying to find

1633
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: a left tackle for instance. You know what I'm saying.

1634
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: So there's different priorities for all thirty two teams. And

1635
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: if you're trying to find a quarterback, that's right. So

1636
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: everything same problem, different dynamic break time for us here

1637
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more on this discussion, and

1638
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 1: we'll also knock around some other things that we have

1639
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: in the hopper for you. It's coming up next here

1640
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's

1641
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1642
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One more note on the contract

1643
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: extensions signed by Josh Allen last Friday, reported here on

1644
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Obviously, he's the first member of the

1645
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:17,440
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class to sign an extension. It's widely

1646
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: believed that Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield in due course

1647
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: here will get extensions as well. But Mayfield, when asked

1648
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: to comment on Josh Allen's two hundred and fifty eight

1649
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: million dollar contract, Baker said the following quote, very happy

1650
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: for Josh. I think Josh is a great guy. We

1651
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: went through that draft process together, and I'm very happy

1652
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: for him. He's in a tradition, rich town like Buffalo,

1653
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 1: and they're lucky to have a quarterback like him. End quote.

1654
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: I know there are people that you know, there are

1655
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: detractors to Baker Mayfield. He rubbed some people the wrong way.

1656
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's brutally honest. Sometimes he emotionally reacts and it

1657
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: rubbed people the wrong way. Um, but I think it's

1658
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: safe to say he is a competitor at the highest level.

1659
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: Um is passionate about football, and I think he has

1660
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: a great deal of respect for his peers. So I

1661
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: think he is a good person in that way. This

1662
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: is an example of that. Of course, if you want

1663
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: to be the cynic and all of this, you can say, well,

1664
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: of course he's gonna say all that for Alan because

1665
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: he knows that guy's gonna help him get paid. Right,

1666
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: So I guess there's two ways to look at it.

1667
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 1: He handed Let be honest, he handled it exactly how

1668
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: he should have handled it. Yeah, he said, Hey, Josh

1669
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: is a great quarterback. I loved getting to know him

1670
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: during the process when we were getting drafted. Um, Buffalo

1671
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: is lucky to have him. That's a bottle, that's all

1672
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: he said. You know, that's and he said a lot

1673
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: of the same things that Josh has said about his

1674
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: contract things. And I'm not thinking about that. I got

1675
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I gotta play football, you know. And so Baker's handling

1676
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: all of this exactly the way he should have. And

1677
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm I don't have any problem with what he said

1678
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: about Josh's contract. Very happy for him. I mean, that's great,

1679
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:07,440
Speaker 1: that's good stuff. You know. That's probably the least inflammatory

1680
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: thing Bakers said about anybody else in the league in

1681
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: his career. So maybe it is telling that he's said

1682
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: it about a Kai's contract. But I'll say this as

1683
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: a competitor. I know Baker's telling his his bros behind

1684
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: the scenes. If I outplay him this year, you know

1685
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get? Well, you know if we go

1686
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: further in the playoffs and Buffalo does you know what

1687
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna ask for? Yeah,

1688
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: that's the floor. Right, Who do you do you think that?

1689
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: First question, who do you believe gets an extension? Next?

1690
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Jackson or Mayfield? Second question, who do you who of

1691
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: those two do you believe wants to wait as long

1692
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: as possible to sign an extension? Like I think if

1693
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: the he's right, either one of them could sign. I think,

1694
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: But I think the way it's going to play out,

1695
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: I think Lamar will sign next, and then probably Cleveland's

1696
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: got Yeah, Cleveland has a roster that, if many people,

1697
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: is better than Buffalo's roster. Um Lamar has got an

1698
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: MVP in his pocket and has and is there. He

1699
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: is their team and they have said he's our guy

1700
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: going forward for many years to come. Awesome. So I

1701
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: think Lamar is gonna get signed next and I think

1702
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens will probably give him a contract

1703
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: that's a notch better than Josh's, just because Lamar doesn't

1704
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: have to take it. Unless he does. I wonder which

1705
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: of these teams goes the four year extension round, which

1706
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: is what a lot of the quarterbacks would prefer to have,

1707
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: know when they can come back to the table that

1708
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: much sooner. It's not like they're not gonna get generated.

1709
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Josh didn't sign a ten year Mahomes like deal, but

1710
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, this is an eight year

1711
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,440
Speaker 1: deal because it's keeping the last two years with some adjustments,

1712
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, on the books, and another six years on

1713
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: top of that. So in the grand scheme of things,

1714
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: it's eight years. I don't see Lamar Jackson doing that.

1715
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he does. And I wonder how

1716
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Mayfield's contract is structured, not only because the quarterback may

1717
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: want a shorter deal so he can come back to

1718
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 1: the table that much sooner you get fair market value again,

1719
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: but because as you mentioned, the Brown's roster is probably

1720
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: it probably does have more elite talent on it than

1721
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 1: the Bills. Are they a better team top to bottom

1722
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: than the Bills? And I don't know about that, but

1723
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: knowing you have elade players with high end contracts, are

1724
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: the brown is going to demand, Hey, we need a

1725
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: contract more like Mahomes and Allen with you, Baker, if

1726
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: you want to keep this group together. You know you've

1727
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of people on big money deals. Yeah,

1728
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, Miles garrett O, b J. They're trying to

1729
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: redo Denzel Ward. They just did uh, Chubb Chubb, So

1730
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: I mean run down the list, Jarvis Landry. I mean

1731
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: it keeps going the the the offensive alignment that Batonio

1732
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: did he sound Joe? Yeah? And they got Wyatt Teller

1733
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, I think yeah, just sounded free agency,

1734
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 1: John Johnson and all those. It's now becoming with Mahomes

1735
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: doing the deal he did, and then Josh Allen following

1736
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: suit leaving this deal open to letting the Bills have

1737
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: the financial wherewithal to put pieces around him. It's becoming

1738
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: a competition is to see who can get the most

1739
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: money and help their team out the most as well

1740
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: and leave the window open. Not you know, not because

1741
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: now a four year deal, look at Dak Prescott's deal.

1742
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty million is forty million a year,

1743
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million for one hundred fifty eight

1744
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: million or whatever it is. I think it's one hundred

1745
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: and sixty million for four year extension. Well four years,

1746
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 1: he's going to take another swing at it. Yeah, they

1747
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: got to go through the whole thing again. He remember

1748
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 1: he pushed it to the limit this last time. He's

1749
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna get easier now that he's set that precedent. I

1750
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 1: just think it's becoming a point where the quarterbacks got

1751
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: to be on board with the organization. And that's kind

1752
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: of thinking like Tom Brady did all those years in

1753
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,560
Speaker 1: New England. He was getting sub sub market value in

1754
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: his quarterback contract, all of that stuff. It's gonna have

1755
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: to be an organizational decision and an organizational contract with

1756
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks as particularly in this day. It may change

1757
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: when the twenty twenty three gets here because the TV

1758
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: contracts kick in and everybody's gonna get rich fast. But

1759
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: these contracts make it possible for Mahomes and Allan to

1760
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: be on good teams throughout the length of the contract,

1761
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: and I don't know that that's possible in a contract

1762
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott right, who signed a four year deal.

1763
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: But that is Josh literally putting his money where his

1764
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: mouth is. He's basically taking this deal, which, don't get

1765
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: me wrong, it pays him handsomely, but he gave some

1766
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: concessions to keep the roster competitive because winning is important

1767
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: to him, probably even more than money. Yeah, I mean,

1768
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: it's generational wealth no matter how you slice it for

1769
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,560
Speaker 1: all of these guys. Yeah, but if you want to

1770
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: get to a point where you're this legendary, you know

1771
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: that we just finished the Hall of Fame. Se if

1772
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: you want to get like to Tom Brady, to Peyton

1773
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: Manning type of legendary status, you gotta wine, you gotta win.

1774
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: Break time for us here when we return, we'll be

1775
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 1: joined by NFL writer for the Athletic Shield Capatia, who

1776
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: was just at training camp with the Bills today. He's

1777
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: on his way to Brown's camp, but he'll be joining

1778
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: us next here on one Bill's Live Presenterbody kill Ot

1779
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker

1780
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: who has been all the fields. Kind of unique. He

1781
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role players for you, Steve,

1782
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp We're not even in the stragedyere of

1783
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: normalcy here. We are our number three on a Monday,

1784
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you one Bills lives the

1785
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: show here with you until three as we plow through

1786
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: week three of training camp, which began today, and one

1787
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,520
Speaker 1: person who was taking in the action from the sidelines

1788
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: was our next is our next guest? It is NFL

1789
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic Sille Capatia Hille. Thanks for giving

1790
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: us some time. We know you're on the road head

1791
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: and to Cleveland now, but thanks for giving us some

1792
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: of your time. What you what'd you think of practice today?

1793
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: We saw you talking to coach Pryor. How'd it go? Yeah, well,

1794
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: well yeah it was nice to uh just stop buy

1795
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo and uh and see Sean McDermott and Billy Bean

1796
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: and taking uh practice for Brandon Being, I should say,

1797
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 1: so there's a truck trying to you know, change lanes

1798
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 1: in front of me. So I was a little flustered

1799
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: there Brandon Being and the team and so, uh, you know,

1800
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm bullish on this team going into twenty twenty one.

1801
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I think their off season made a lot of sense.

1802
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I think they have a complete roster and so it

1803
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: was good, good to visit with them. So what what

1804
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: what was your give me an umbrella view of what

1805
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: your takeaway was from your time here in Buffalo today. Well,

1806
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was just looking at some of the

1807
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: areas offensively, you know, seeing a guy like Emmanuel Sanders first,

1808
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: Davious White in one on ones and just looking at

1809
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: sort of the blend of younger players and older players,

1810
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 1: and you know, in my opinion, and it just kind

1811
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: of backed up by you know, a lot of a

1812
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: lot of the analytics folks feel the same way. You

1813
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: can build an efficient offense, you can kind of figure

1814
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 1: the rest out, and you're going to be in the

1815
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: mix year in and year out. And so just seeing

1816
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: somebody like Emmanuel Sanders added to the mix at their

1817
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: wide receiving corps, you know, you wouldn't think that that

1818
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: was a huge need going into the offseason, but I

1819
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: think little moves like that around the margins are really

1820
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: going to pay off for this team. Jill. I know

1821
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: you recently put together, you know, your defensive unit rankings

1822
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: from one to thirty two for this upcoming season. You

1823
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: had to Bill seventh. Last year, you had him twelfth.

1824
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in Buffalo obviously are

1825
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: hopeful that the defense gets a little bit closer to

1826
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: what they were prior to this offense taking off, when

1827
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: they were a lockdown, stingy defense. What gives you confidence

1828
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: that they can get closer to that kind of form

1829
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: this year? Well, I think if you look at last

1830
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: year and some of the pieces that we're missing, of course,

1831
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: Matt Milano out for much of the year, are Star

1832
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Latulala opting out of course, and so if you look

1833
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: at some of those things and then just look at

1834
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,839
Speaker 1: what they did this offseason specifically, I like their talent

1835
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: up front, you know, with the draft and adding Gregory

1836
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Rousseau and Boogie Basham. My thing is they don't need

1837
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: all these guys to hit, right. They've invested heavily in

1838
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 1: the defensive line in the draft over the past few years.

1839
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: So it's not like every guy's always going to hit.

1840
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 1: Every guy's not going to always be a quality starter

1841
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: or a pro bowler. But I feel like they've given

1842
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: themselves options, but sort of a bunch of young lottery

1843
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: tickets up front, where if one or two of these

1844
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: guys pop a little bit all of a sudden, that

1845
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: defensive line. That pass rush is going to be pretty good.

1846
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: And then of course bringing at Milano back in there,

1847
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: what I've thought was a really reasonable contract in the

1848
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: smart move for them. So I think just those two

1849
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: things are really going to put them in position to succeed. Frankly,

1850
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: I just think the coaching is good, you know. I

1851
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: think between Sean McDermott and Leslie Frazier, they've got a

1852
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: sound team. They're playing a lot of different pressure looks,

1853
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the zone covers that they like to play. So I

1854
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: think the pieces are in place where you can really

1855
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: talk yourself in to this team. Bouncing back a little bit,

1856
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: when you see this Bill's team, you're right on the

1857
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 1: heels of the Josh Allen contract extension. The coaching staff

1858
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: does take kind of a center stage. But this front

1859
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 1: office of the Bills and the program that Sean McDermott

1860
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean have developed here, when you look back

1861
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: at it, it all seems a little bit, you know,

1862
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: every move seems seems common sensical, and yet they did it.

1863
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: They never straight outside the lines. I've said one of

1864
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: the most the best characteristics of Brandon Bean is they

1865
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: never waver from their plan. And you know signing Josh

1866
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 1: Allen's another example that you do it, you get it done.

1867
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 1: You you just do the right thing at every turn.

1868
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: And yet while the Bills have done that, and there's

1869
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 1: front officers taken center stage and gotten a lot of

1870
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: kudos for a lot of front officers just don't do that.

1871
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Is it that simple? Well? I think the plan is simple.

1872
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: You know. The thing that's not simple is do you

1873
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: hit on the quarterback or do you not hit on

1874
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback? It's you know, I write a lot of words,

1875
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: do you guys say a lot of words? And how

1876
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 1: often does it just come down to welcome the quarterback

1877
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: player or not? Now having said that, what I really

1878
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: like about what the Bill said is that they positioned

1879
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback to succeed and they had a plan for

1880
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: helping him succeed. Because a lot of times when you

1881
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first round, those guys are

1882
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: not going into the best situations, you know, whether it's

1883
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line, whether it's not a lot of

1884
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: weapons at wide receiver, and that can lead to struggle

1885
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: and that can lead to bad habits. So you are

1886
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 1: right right, I think Brydon being at a very smart

1887
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: plan where it was all right, we're in terrible cap space,

1888
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: and like get in. We've got to get rid of

1889
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: some of these contracts so that we just have the

1890
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: flexibility to do some of these things. We have to

1891
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: identify poor players who we want here, who are going

1892
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: to be here when we actually get good. Then we

1893
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: have to take a big swing on a quarterback, and

1894
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: then we've got to put the quarterback in position to succeed.

1895
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: So you know, when you spell it out that way, yeah,

1896
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: it shouldn't really be that complicated. But at the same time,

1897
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: the hardest piece of that is hitting on a quarterback.

1898
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: And you see it league wide where a guy's good

1899
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: one year, he's not good the next year, or someone

1900
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: comes in and everyone thinks he's a camp miss prospect

1901
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he does miss. So I

1902
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: think the fact that they identify the quarterback and then

1903
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: put him in position to succeed is probably the underrated

1904
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: aspect of that entire play. And I don't know how

1905
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: much you notice this today, but this has kind of

1906
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: been a theme through the course at Bill's Camp Shale,

1907
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: and that is that the ball rarely hits the ground

1908
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: in the Bills passing game and I understand it's the

1909
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 1: practice setting. It's a little bit different, but still in

1910
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: all the efficiency and proficiency with which the offense operates,

1911
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: particularly in the passing game, it's it's I don't know,

1912
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: it just feels uncommon to be that consistent. And we

1913
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: saw that last year. Obviously, this team was lumping people

1914
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: up in the second half of the season on offense,

1915
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: hanging thirty burghers on people, and yet there's there's this

1916
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: convincing mindset that they could probably take even another step,

1917
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 1: maybe not as big as they did from nineteen to twenty,

1918
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: but a step. Nonetheless, where do you think that step

1919
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 1: is most easily recognizable for the Bills this year? Well,

1920
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I think the area that they certainly can get better

1921
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: And this is something that I know Sean McDermott talked

1922
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: about at the end of the last season. It's become

1923
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: more efficient in the run game. You know, I think

1924
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: that they're going to be a past first team. You know,

1925
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: if you look at it really last year, if you

1926
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 1: look at some of the advanced numbers and just on

1927
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: first and second down in kind of those neutral situations

1928
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 1: where it's not a two minute drail, it's not you're

1929
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 1: trailing by a bunch of points, those neutral situations, the

1930
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Bills in the Chiefs where the most pass heavy offense

1931
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: is in the entire NFL. And you know, I think

1932
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: that is a smart way to play because you're getting

1933
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: defenses in their base defenses. You haven't unpredictability to your

1934
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: offense where you're kind of keeping the defense on their does,

1935
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: and again you're putting your quarterback in position to succeed.

1936
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to continue. But I do

1937
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said for being able to

1938
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: run the ball efficiently, and especially when you're trying to

1939
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: protect a lead, or when you're late in the game

1940
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: or in those high level situations. And I think they

1941
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 1: were probably average to below average in the run game

1942
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,719
Speaker 1: last year. And so whether it's a stuff schematically, whether

1943
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: it's some wrinkles, whether it's the offensive line playing a

1944
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: little bit better, whether it's the running backs playing a

1945
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: little bit better, I think that's an area where you

1946
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: certainly could see them take another step forward. Some of

1947
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: the stuff's still going on around the league. It was

1948
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: reported by John McClean from the Houston Chronicle today from

1949
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: his behind the scenes or whatever sources he has, he's Still,

1950
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: he says that Deshaun Watson is still never going to

1951
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: take another snap for the Houston Texans, even though the

1952
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Texans have optimism about working it out. What are the

1953
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: likely destinations if Deshaun Watson demands and will not play

1954
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: for the Texans, Where do you think he lands? What

1955
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:32,799
Speaker 1: happens in that situation, Obviously the legal ramifications set aside

1956
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 1: what happens on the football into Deshaun Watson's career. Yeah,

1957
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 1: I think it's a tricky situation. Obviously goes without saying

1958
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: right now, because there's kind of three layers to it.

1959
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: Right there's the twenty two civil lawsuits, there's the criminal

1960
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: aspect of it, and then there is the league disciplined.

1961
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: So right now we don't have resolution on any of

1962
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: those things, and all those things are ongoing. So in

1963
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 1: terms of timing, I don't know when a trade would

1964
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 1: take place. In terms of death nations, you know, Philly

1965
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: is home for me, and I think where there's smoke,

1966
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 1: there's certainly fire there where they would be a team

1967
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 1: that has the draft capital from their Carson Wentz trade,

1968
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: from the trade where they moved down in the first

1969
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 1: round of the draft, and they certainly have a need

1970
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 1: at a quarterback, so I know that's a team that

1971
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: certainly Deshaun Watson has been linked to. I think he

1972
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: can't rule out teams like the Carolina Panthers, the Miami Dolphins.

1973
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, those are teams that I think earlier this

1974
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: offseason were certainly linked to Deshaun Watson. So again, there

1975
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: are so many layers to this thing, and there's so

1976
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: many aspects to it, and so much that we don't

1977
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: know right now. It needs to get resolved before we

1978
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: know what his tuture is even going to be in

1979
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. But if you're talking about teams that could

1980
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 1: be potentially be interested, those are some that come to

1981
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: mind talking to Shilka Patti, NFL writer for The Athletic,

1982
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: and I know you just got done taking a look

1983
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: at Ravens camp. And obviously Lamar Jackson's absence was a

1984
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: big headline and out of there the first week or so,

1985
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: and people were scratching their heads because this is a

1986
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 1: guy who missed a game last year because of COVID,

1987
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: And you know, all indications are, although I don't know

1988
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: that it's been corroborated officially by the team, that he's

1989
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 1: still not vaccinated now after missing the time that he did,

1990
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: what is it? What's the view from the raven side

1991
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: of the ledger here? Obviously they have to be very

1992
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: careful and not say they gotta you know, they can't

1993
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: mandate anything, obviously, but that's got to be frustrating. Like

1994
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: you're starting training camp and your franchise quarterbacks on the shelf.

1995
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: But the same problem that he missed a game with

1996
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: last year. So I'm just kind of curious what the

1997
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: vibe was there when you were on hand. Yeah, I

1998
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: know he returned the second day. I was there on Saturday,

1999
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: and you know, no one has said this to me

2000
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: or set it out loud, But of course they've got

2001
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: to be frustrated. And you know, I don't think it's

2002
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: limited to them, obviously. I think coaches around the league

2003
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: are frustrated that, you know, they can't get all of

2004
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: their players vaccinated and put everyone kind of in the

2005
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: same position where they can be as normal as possible

2006
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 1: with their travel, with their practice, with their meetings, and

2007
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a sort of a thing where

2008
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 1: they can't force players to do anything they don't want

2009
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 1: to do. You know, some of the conversations with force

2010
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Mike Zimmer and Kurt Cousins. You know, I

2011
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: think that's probably the best reflection we have of it

2012
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: league wide, and so we'll see how the season goes.

2013
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be an ongoing talking point

2014
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 1: for sure with players who don't don't get the vaccine,

2015
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: and certainly franchise quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson. I mean, if

2016
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: he misses time, that can just have a you know,

2017
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: goes with out saying that can have a monsterous impact

2018
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: on your entire season, whether it's playoff seating, whether it's

2019
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: getting into the playoffs, whether it's getting a buy in

2020
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, there are so many different

2021
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: layers to it, but it's a situation where you can't

2022
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 1: really force people to do something. I think the NFL

2023
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: actually has done a good job of putting guidelines in

2024
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: place and really making it so that players should be

2025
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: very encouraged. They know they're going to kind of live

2026
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: a different life in the vaccinated players this season. But

2027
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, those guys make their decisions.

2028
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: And as you know, as this training camp takes place

2029
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson in and out of the lineup with

2030
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: COVID and all that. Perhaps it's too early to tell,

2031
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 1: but is there going to be any sort of transformational

2032
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: transformational occurrence about their offense, what it's going to look like.

2033
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly Lamar Jackson's going to be the engine

2034
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: that runs it. But they're you know, with Sammy Watkins

2035
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: at it and all the new weapons they've got on

2036
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: the outside, are they going to be able to look

2037
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: different than they have in the past two years? Yeah,

2038
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm curious to see that, because if you

2039
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,879
Speaker 1: look at it, they made the determination that their issues

2040
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: were more upfront on the offensive line than at wide receiver.

2041
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: Now they're looking at i think three new stars on

2042
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: their offensive line, and then they go out they again

2043
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: Sammy Watchtons, they draft the wide receiver Rashod Bateman in

2044
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: the first round. But you know, my conversation with John

2045
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,759
Speaker 1: Harbaugh there, you know, I kind of tried to touch

2046
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: on that, like are we wanting to see some major

2047
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: schematic changes with the passing game? And you know, he

2048
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 1: seemed to think it was more a matter of execution

2049
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 1: and they don't need to rip up the playbook and

2050
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: start starting new or anything like that. So we know

2051
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: they're a team that wants to get ahead, they want

2052
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: to run the ball. They're going to be very blitz

2053
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: heavy on defense. But to me, their whole ceiling comes

2054
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: down to can you find answers in the passing game

2055
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 1: when you have to move the football through the air.

2056
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: That's something they were not able to do last year.

2057
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the numbers, they were

2058
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: probably the middle of the pack in terms of passing efficiency.

2059
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 1: But I think we all watch games where you think,

2060
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: man is the quarterback, just meet the wide receiver. It's

2061
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: like five minutes before kickoffs because it looked so disjointed.

2062
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: So that's what their season is going to come down to,

2063
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: is whether they can find those answers in the passing

2064
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: game when they need to pass the football. Last one

2065
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 1: for me, Sheel. You know you went to the Ravens camp,

2066
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: You've been to Bill's camp. Now you're headed to the

2067
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 1: Browns camp. Twenty eighteen quarterback class Josh now under a

2068
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: new contract extension. If you gotta lay odds here, who's next?

2069
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of us feels going to

2070
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 1: be either Jackson or Mayfield. But which franchise do you

2071
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: think is apt to get this done sooner rather than later?

2072
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: And which quarterback camp may be inclined to wait for

2073
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 1: another year of productivity we put out there before they

2074
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: start talking turkey. Yeah, I mean, I think that Jackson

2075
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: contract should be easier to get done. You know, they've

2076
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: built the whole operation around him. Now you have the

2077
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen contract, a sort of a very recent comp

2078
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: and so that to me seems like the one that

2079
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 1: would make the most sense. If I'm the Browns, you know,

2080
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,719
Speaker 1: I might want to see another year of Baker Mayfield

2081
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: and you see, is there another level he can get

2082
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: to internally? How much of it is us helping him

2083
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,799
Speaker 1: with our offensive line, our scheme, our supporting cast, who

2084
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, can we build the same type of roster

2085
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: if he's making forty million dollars a year? And the

2086
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: other thing is how many years are these quarterbacks willing

2087
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: to sign for? Because this was a big, big with

2088
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen contract. You know some quarterbacks. He saw

2089
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: it with Dak Prescott, he saw it previously with Kirk Cousins.

2090
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: They want the three or four year deals and then

2091
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: they say, you know, we're gonna have leverage at the

2092
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 1: end of that. We'll see what the cat looks like,

2093
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to maximize our earning potential by hitting

2094
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 1: the market again or forcing our team to write up

2095
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: a new contract for us. Well, they didn't. The Bill

2096
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that. With Josh Allen, you know,

2097
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: he was willing to sign a flag flog extension there,

2098
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: a six year extension. So I think that's another point

2099
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: where you have to see, well, this is Lamar Jackson

2100
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 1: want to do that, or from mar Jackson want to

2101
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 1: go the route of Dak Prescott, in which case it

2102
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: could complicate things a little bit more. Hill is always

2103
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. When can we expect to see

2104
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: the write up with some of those McDermott quotes you

2105
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: got today? Yeah, you know, I'm hoping to write something

2106
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: up on the bills later this week, so let's hope

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Speaker 1: before that first the season game, there will be something

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Speaker 1: up there on the Athletic And there's also a long

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Speaker 1: guide I put out you can get at the athletic

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Speaker 1: dot com slash NFL playbook and that's got a big,

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Speaker 1: big right up on the Buffalo Bills, the scheme, analytics,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things kind of woven in there as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety seven pages NFL preview Guide NFL

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Speaker 1: A section, individual section or all thirty two teams. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: on plowing through that ship. We appreciate it. Thank yeah,

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01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Either you'll really enjoy it, or if

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01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: you've got like a new born at home, you read

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01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: that to them and they'll fall. They'll fall asleep in

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Speaker 1: a matter of minute. So it'll serve its purpose one

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Speaker 1: way or the other. Thanks guys, good enough, shield drive safe.

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Speaker 1: That's Shiel Capatia from the NF from NFL writer for

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Speaker 1: the Athletic joining us here on the show. Is at

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Speaker 1: Bills camp here today, headed to Brown's camp right now.

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Speaker 1: I for your day. He's covered all three from the

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class figure. I asked him question who

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01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 1: he thinks might sign next. He thinks it's gonna be Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Not really one hundred percent sure if it'll be of

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01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: the shorter Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson variety, or if he

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Speaker 1: goes the route that Josh Allen took. Don't know if

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01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: it's if it's relevant or not, certainly Deshaun or Lamar.

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: Jackson's a different kind of quarterback. They run the football

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01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: with him. He's a big part of their running game.

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01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 1: He's setting all kinds of quarterback records for career numbers

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01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 1: and running and he's a unicorn. The guy's phenomenal. Do

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01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 1: you want to sign him to a long term deal

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01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 1: if you're the Baltimore Ravens knowing that at some point

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01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: he may get nicked? Well, not only that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's think about this too. He's a dynamic player, we know,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, he's like lightning in a body. Yeah,

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01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: he's sensational. But I found the comment that she'll reveal

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01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: to us from John Harbaugh pretty interesting, which was, we

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: don't feel you have to tear up the playbook with

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: the passing game. We just fit. We just it was

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01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: a lack of execution more than anything else. Who's that on?

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01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's on the receivers, and it's

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Speaker 1: on Jackson, who still isn't wildly accurate outside the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Well there there. They revamped their wide receiving corps again

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01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: for the shod Bateman in the first round. For the

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Speaker 1: third year in a row they've revamped it. Remember John

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Speaker 1: Brown was there the first year when Joe Flacco and

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01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson were kind of splitting time, Flacco was on

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Speaker 1: his way out. He you know, he's struggling to play

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Speaker 1: well at a high level. Lamar was a number one

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Speaker 1: draft pick. They were going to bring him in see

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Speaker 1: if he could do something. They kind of mixed it

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Speaker 1: up and it was kind of an offensive roster that

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01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: was built around Flacco's skills. Right. Then the next year

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Speaker 1: they brought all these guys back and said, we want

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Speaker 1: guys that can run block. That's when John Brown left

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and their receivers became, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of like wearing neck rolls out there. Right they're running

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Speaker 1: blocking in the running game. And Lamar was an MVP.

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Speaker 1: And then last year they said, okay, we gotta get you.

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Speaker 1: Gonna try and do a little better. They couldn't get

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Speaker 1: it done. It's the third year to row. They've significantly

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Speaker 1: retooled their wide receivers. You know, you got to start

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01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 1: wondering if that's the problem or not. Yeah, they also

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Speaker 1: retooled their defensive line. They said goodbye to Matthew Judean

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Speaker 1: who went to New England in free agency, but they

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Speaker 1: drafted right before the Bills picked Rousseau. They took Jason Away,

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01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,919
Speaker 1: who now wants to be referred by his given first name, Otafe,

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01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 1: so Otafeway, at least by Shiel's report, has made the

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Speaker 1: pass rush look pretty good. So you combine him with

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Speaker 1: Calais Campbell and the veteran Justin Houston who you just signed,

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Speaker 1: you knew a lot worse than those three. Always got

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01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: to prove it, of course, and you know that was

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Speaker 1: another guy who only had one year of starting experience,

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Speaker 1: much like Greg Rousseau, and didn't have any secs. So

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um. We're also getting a

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Speaker 1: lengthy injury report from Bill's practice today. So Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, did not participate today. That's due to

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Speaker 1: a knee ailment. So it wasn't a rest day, no, Um.

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, who we said left the field early, has

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Speaker 1: a mouth injury. Maybe he got hit under his mask

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Speaker 1: or something on the practice field today, or you know,

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Speaker 1: I know there's times where if your chin strap comes

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Speaker 1: loose and you get a hand to the face or

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01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: an arm shoves the mask right into your mug, right,

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Speaker 1: the worst it could be is maybe what a broken jaw? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't Hopefully it's not anything like that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking I'm hoping for a fat lip and maybe

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Speaker 1: a bust of tooth. You know, Oh you're hoping for that. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot better than what you said, is it not?

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Speaker 1: Got a lot better what you said? Um. Feliciano has

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01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: a non COVID illness, so he was out sick today.

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01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: Same thing with Tommy Doyle. Mitch Morse had a rest day,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, because he was out there watching practice.

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Speaker 1: Vernon Butler diagnosed with a concussion. It looks like far

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Speaker 1: As Lamp with a calf injury. He's missed a couple

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Speaker 1: of days. And Christian Wade still battling a shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, he needs as much time on the

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Speaker 1: field as possible and he's been out on the sidelines there.

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Speaker 1: Eight with an arm in a sling. Eight guys on

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Speaker 1: the injury list today for the Buffalo Bills, well, actually seven.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is a rest day. So seven guys on

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Speaker 1: the injury list. Tough one. Yeah, that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: first sign that start to be a grind. Didn't make

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Speaker 1: you feel any differently about preseason game number one. No,

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Speaker 1: get the guys ready. Injuries are part of it. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: got to deal with it. Do what your program and

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: your process worked last year and the year before, it'll

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Speaker 1: work again. You're always trying to make it better. They'll

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Speaker 1: have guys ready to play as fast as faster, faster

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Speaker 1: than anybody. And you know you don't have to you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to think the sky is falling because

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01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: you had a bad day of training camp, or because

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01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 1: you get a rash of injuries, and it's just that

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01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: it's a part of the game. So just keep rolling

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01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: and trust that you've got a roster deep enough to

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01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 1: compensate for any major problems that it might get you.

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Speaker 1: We take a break here. When we come back, some

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Speaker 1: of your final thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we

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Speaker 1: also have a little NFL True false to play when

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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live, presented by Colloid

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Speaker 1: of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you an

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Speaker 1: update on the Bills preseason opponent Week one, which is

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. We've been talking about playing time for

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Speaker 1: the starters in the preseason. Today, Dan Campbell, head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Lions, has apparently told the Detroit media what

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Speaker 1: his plans are for his starters. This from Benjamin Raven

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Speaker 1: who unfortunately covers the Lions instead of the Ravens from

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Speaker 1: mlive dot Com says Dan Campbell has saying Lions starters

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Speaker 1: are looking at playing about a quarter this Friday against

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Speaker 1: Buffalo in the preseason opener, which it is probably part

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Speaker 1: for the course. That's normal, that's not a surprise. That's good,

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Speaker 1: all right, Fine, so there's that the opponents will be

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Speaker 1: having their starters out on the field. Of course, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot they have to still learn about Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: with the talent around him, so you can understand that,

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Speaker 1: holy and completely. We'll go back to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: quickly here for a few more comments from you, and

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Speaker 1: we are up to Jason, who says, play the starters side.

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02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 1: I think it's important to get some live reps against

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Speaker 1: another team. I wouldn't go crazy with the snaps and

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Speaker 1: maybe play them for a couple of series each game

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Speaker 1: or a quarter for the first two games and take

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Speaker 1: the third game off completely. One way to do it. Yeah, where, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can do it. You can mix it up, certainly.

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Speaker 1: I think most people, probably I can't speak for you,

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Speaker 1: I guess we've been talking to circles around this. You

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02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: need to play them. You need to get particularly the

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02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: defenders right. Those guys need to get used to going up,

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02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 1: coming up and taking somebody on and tackling them. Offensive

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Speaker 1: players may be the same thing, but the game is,

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Speaker 1: it's fast and it's a physical game. You've got to get,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of hardened to that way of life

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Speaker 1: of playing, because nobody gets to do that in the preseason,

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02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, just in practice and stuff. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's probably a good thing to have these guys play

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Speaker 1: some I don't think you should even set Josh Allen

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02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 1: off on a shelf. He's I don't think he's there

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Speaker 1: his fourth year for him, I think you treat him

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02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: like a like an established guy. Give him a quarter

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Speaker 1: a couple of series. Sit him down in one of

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Speaker 1: these games, either the second or third nor the first one,

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Speaker 1: whichever having go past halftime, get used to that. I

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Speaker 1: imagine what will happen one of the last two preseason games,

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Speaker 1: the Chicago game or the Green Bay here game here

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Speaker 1: at home. They're both at one o'clock in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very telling for what the Bills want

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Speaker 1: to do with their game day preparation. Those games are

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Speaker 1: going to be dress rehearsals for what an actual game

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Speaker 1: is going to be. Like day schedule, one o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon. Get you get your routine together, guys. This

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Speaker 1: is how it's gonna be. Josh starts. You guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna play the whole first half, gonna come out after

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Speaker 1: halftime at one o'clock on a September afternoon, smoking hot.

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Speaker 1: Get it together, get your stuff. This is how it's

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02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,160
Speaker 1: going to be. I think that's really really smart for

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff to do. It. Used to never happen

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02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: in the pre season. This year they got two games

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02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the afternoon. Smart Jack says, wrap

2284
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 1: the main guys in bubble rap and keep them off

2285
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: the field and away away from rubber mats, an homage

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02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 1: to Kevin Cobb. I don't want our main guys getting

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02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 1: dinged up. They get enough work in practice. See last

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02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 1: season's results. With no practice, with no preseason games, play

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02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 1: the young guys and backups to battle out roster spots

2290
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: and experience. Here's the only problem I see with that, brownie,

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Speaker 1: And see if you agree. What thanks? They get enough

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02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 1: work in practice. All right, Fine, so you're going against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh gets through the preseason really healthy and they

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Speaker 1: played their guys a ton. Now they come in hardened,

2295
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: ready and they jump out and they hit in a

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02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,879
Speaker 1: mouth when your guys haven't played it down in the preseason.

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02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my, oh my, gosh, I forgot about this.

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02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, wow, you don't want to get

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02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: caught like that, right, Yes, that's what you're running. That's

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Speaker 1: the risk. Not about your team then, and it's about

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Speaker 1: the other team doing it better than you. What about

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Speaker 1: this argument from John wherever? This Detroit Lyons coach is

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02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 1: advocating violence and unnecessary hits taken out, kneecaps and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. So I wouldn't play the starters at all,

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Speaker 1: especially against this team and this ridiculous head coach. That's

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Speaker 1: overblown a little bit, I think. Yeah, Dan Campbell has

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Speaker 1: a has been a head coach an interim head coach

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Speaker 1: for the Dolphins before him, and he's making a lot

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Speaker 1: of he's a lot of bluster, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But i'd yeah, I would not. Yeah, he's not advocating

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Speaker 1: unnecessary or as something he talks a good game. But

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Speaker 1: that's it's hyperbole and it's bluster. Are rhetoric? Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised by the level of concern on the part of

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02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:52,919
Speaker 1: Bills fans for important players getting injured in the preseason?

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02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 1: This is the loudest I've heard of this concern. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long time, so we've had

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Speaker 1: people valuable. It's likely in the expectations for the team,

2318
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 1: and not that other players in the past weren't valuable.

2319
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I mean, you've got players that

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Speaker 1: are would be valuable on any team they played on

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean they're good. They've got some

2322
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 1: really really good players, and you feel, like rightfully so

2323
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 1: that in order for this team to reach its objectives,

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02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: you need those guys on the field. So there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of angst about starting a season without Tradavious

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Speaker 1: White or Tremaine Edmonds or Josh or any of those.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned you know whoever poorer and hide you

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02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 1: know whoever, name it, Milana whatever. Yeah, so there's a

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02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: whole list of guys like that. But the simple fact

2330
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Speaker 1: of the matter is they're gonna have to play. You

2331
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,839
Speaker 1: want them ready to play, and that means getting them

2332
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: in an live action preseason games to get there, get

2333
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: acclimated to the physicality of the NFL in twenty twenty one.

2334
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. You just have to do it

2335
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: because if you're not, If you don't, you run the risk.

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Speaker 1: All these other teams are gonna be doing it. They're

2337
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna have their guys ready. They're gonna come in there

2338
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be two weeks into the regular season

2339
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 1: of last year because I have three weeks. They're gonna

2340
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 1: be a month into the regular season because I got

2341
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 1: three preseason games under their belt. You don't want to

2342
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: walk in there like you did in twenty twenty thinking,

2343
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, we'll just work our way into it, because

2344
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hit in the mouth, right. I think

2345
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 1: some people are giving a false sense of security by

2346
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 1: last year's lack of a preseason and how good the

2347
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 1: offense has looked at the start of the year, and

2348
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: people are like, ah, were any preseason four Why I

2349
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 1: even take the risk? Well, it's because none of them

2350
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:42,680
Speaker 1: had it. Yeah, So everybody's in the same boat now.

2351
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: You run the risk. If you don't want a preseason,

2352
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 1: you sit at home. Everybody else had a preseason. Well,

2353
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: you're behind and you know it's quite You can't let

2354
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: that happen. Let's do a little NFL true falls, Steve,

2355
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 1: what do you say? Okay? NFL True False as always

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artistan Cheese

2357
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Speaker 1: and number one on the NFL True False List. Today,

2358
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: Steelers defensive end and slash outside linebacker TJ. Watt will

2359
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 1: become the first thirty million dollars per year non QB

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Speaker 1: player in the NFL. What say you to this? I

2361
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:38,919
Speaker 1: say false is a huge jump, huge jump. Yeah, Boses

2362
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, Joey Boses at twenty seven. He is

2363
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 1: the highest paid defensive end on an average annual value.

2364
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: I think he's also highest in total value because he

2365
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 1: signed like one hundred thirty five mill. Think. I don't

2366
02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 1: think that's no. I don't think that's in the cards. Especially,

2367
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers can do that right now.

2368
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 1: Well they could next, they could kick it in. They've

2369
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 1: got the they've got the they have the money next year,

2370
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 1: no question. That's why the Steelers. They also have a

2371
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 1: few more spots they're gonna have to fill. Besides defensive end.

2372
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: That's why the Steelers have been rumored to say, hey,

2373
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: when when Aaron Rodgers is up in Green Bay that

2374
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: after the season, well we'll trade for him. We got

2375
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 1: the cash to sign him to a new deal, and

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02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: we'll make it worth it for him. And we got

2377
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 1: the you know, and Ben Roethlisberg will be gone, and yeah, YadA, YadA, YadA.

2378
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of money. So we'll see. They're

2379
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to be competitive. I mean it's gonna have

2380
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: to be at least twenty I mean probably more than that, right,

2381
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be at least where Bosa

2382
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett aren't think five to twenty seven. I

2383
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: don't think thirty thirty million a year though. And I

2384
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:53,120
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know. Maybe I guess I

2385
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 1: think it's crazy talk. Yeah, I think it's false. That's

2386
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 1: a little Pittsburgh doesn't usually operate that way where they

2387
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 1: set the market with agent deals. They're just they're not

2388
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: known for that, right, So I would be inclined to

2389
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 1: see him somewhere between Garrett and Bosa, maybe like twenty

2390
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: six a year. Um, I can't see him resetting the

2391
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 1: market even though he's a fantastic player. I just that's

2392
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 1: just not the way Pittsburgh has done business historically. Yeah, yeah,

2393
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: I agree, NFL true false number two quickly, Steve, because

2394
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 1: we gotta jump the Browns have a top five offense

2395
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:34,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. False false. Yeah, okay, it'll be a

2396
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: top ten. I don't think it's top five. I don't

2397
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 1: think it's top five either. It's good. It'll be good,

2398
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 1: no question, but I just don't think I say false

2399
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 1: as well. Break time for us here when we come

2400
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: back a very special what have we Learned from today's show?

2401
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: Because it involves Peyton Manning and his Pro Football Hall

2402
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 1: of Fame speech will tell you exactly what we're talking about.

2403
02:09:54,160 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 1: Next you're on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned for What

2404
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 1: Have We Learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official

2405
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. And there

2406
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: were a lot of good speeches over the weekend at

2407
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Heck Charles Woodson even

2408
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 1: saying to his mother using a Boys to Mend's song

2409
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: at the start of his speech, which was very touching.

2410
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 1: But it was Peyton Manning, not surprisingly, whose speech resonated

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02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 1: probably with most people, especially people like yourself, Steve, who

2412
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: put a lot of hard work in time into their

2413
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 1: respective playing careers, and he struck the right notes. I

2414
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 1: know you wanted to, you know, get to this final

2415
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: comment that he made, so maybe just set it up

2416
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:48,040
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah. And this is something he said right

2417
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 1: at the end of his Hall of Fame speech about

2418
02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 1: what the game is going forward, what it means, and

2419
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 1: what our responsibility is his former players and for him

2420
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, and what it means going forward.

2421
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 1: This is Peyton Manning at the end of his Hall

2422
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 1: of Fame speach this last weekend. When we leave this

2423
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 1: stage tonight, it is no longer about us. It is

2424
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,920
Speaker 1: about cultivating the game that has given so much to us.

2425
02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: It's about nurturing football to live and thrive another day,

2426
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 1: another year, decade, and another generation. It's about daring team

2427
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: that kids everywhere can learn, bond, grow and have fun with.

2428
02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Every flag pulled, every type were made, every pass throne,

2429
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:32,040
Speaker 1: every run, block, sack and touchdown scored. The audience here

2430
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: tonight is made up of diehard fans who field football

2431
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: deep in your bones. Now we may have ignited the

2432
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 1: fire but you have fanned the flames. Inevitably, those flames

2433
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: will be whipped by the winds of change, but they

2434
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,920
Speaker 1: don't need to smolder. The future of this game is

2435
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 1: ours to shape. We just need to take tomorrow on

2436
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 1: our shoulders as readily as we donned our paths before

2437
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 1: each game. Let this moment become a cherished memory, and

2438
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 1: then remember, a legacy is only worthwhile when there is

2439
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 1: a future to fuel. God bless you, and God bless football.

2440
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 1: God Bless football. Peyton Manning. That sounded like it was

2441
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 1: right out of Park Avenues marketing team, that speech. And

2442
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I and he's, yeah, he's a unique guy, and we

2443
02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 1: all know that. We all watched him play and I

2444
02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: covered him for a lot of years. He's a special individual.

2445
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those guys, special individuals, a lot

2446
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 1: of them going in the Hall of Fame. They're scattered

2447
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,760
Speaker 1: throughout the game. And to see him, you know, give

2448
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:39,520
Speaker 1: a heartfelt shout out to the sport they played so well,

2449
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 1: it's pretty inspiring for a lot of people. I thought

2450
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:43,800
Speaker 1: that was a pretty poignant moment for the weekend to

2451
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 1: hear a guy like him speak that way about the

2452
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: sport in general, and going forward, right, And I think

2453
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,120
Speaker 1: he will be an ambassador for this game a long

2454
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: time coming going forward. Sure, he's got the Monday Night

2455
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:00,400
Speaker 1: Football alternative broadcast he's gonna be doing with his brother,

2456
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 1: and they'll have fun doing that. But I think there'll

2457
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 1: be a lot of other ways that he serves as,

2458
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, an ambassador for this game, not only here

2459
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 1: but probably abroad. I mean, he's internationally recognizable, and I

2460
02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:18,320
Speaker 1: think he's the kind of guy that will be able to,

2461
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: much like he was as a player and a leader,

2462
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,720
Speaker 1: pull other retired players along with him to do the

2463
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of work he feels as necessary to continue to

2464
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,680
Speaker 1: grow this game as it morphson changes. I mean, you

2465
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 1: think about when he first got into the league. You

2466
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:34,240
Speaker 1: can do an awful lot to quarterbacks. You can't do

2467
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 1: that anymore. Yeah, he's I don't think he's done with

2468
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 1: the game. Certainly, this alternate broadcast is something to start with.

2469
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: But I had said this earlier. If I was an owner,

2470
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 1: just got a team or whatever, I would talk to

2471
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 1: him about just handing him the key all of John

2472
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:50,320
Speaker 1: Elway in Denver. He seems like he would be able

2473
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:52,800
Speaker 1: up to that. We'll see what the future holds. For him.

2474
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 1: More training camp coverage here on our show tomorrow, One

2475
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 1: Bills live, more players sound for you. Don't you dare

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Speaker 1: miss it. We'll see you tomorrow them fl