1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Hey, and this is Annie and Samantha and what good 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: to stuff I never told you production of iHeartRadio. And 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: today for this Monday Mini, we're doing kind of a 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: teaser for an episode that I do want to do. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: That was a suggestion from listener Lizzie, and Lizzie wrote 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: in I'm a longtime fan of Sminty and I'm loving 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the more personal and nerdy tone that the podcast has 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: taken since you two began to host the show. In 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: an episode from a few months ago, Annie made a 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: brief comment that she no longer drives as someone who 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: hates driving but is forced you because of work. I 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: relate to this so much. I would love to hear 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: an episode about your thoughts on driving. So much of 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the USA is car centric, and it forces the disabled 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: and those who cannot afford a car to use unreliable 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: public transit if it even exist. Biking and walking can 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: be dangerous if the infrastructure is not present, and the 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: number of pedestrian fatalities has increased a lot in the 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: past decade. The car centric infrastructure of the USA also 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: has a racist and the ablest history. So yes, I 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: do want to talk about that because I looked in 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: the archives, and we haven't done an episode on We've 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: done an episode the show is not you and I, 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: but past host have done an episode on kind of 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: stereotypes around driving. But they're all really old. One of 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: them is like from when the show first started. So 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: time for an update, but also just to look at 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: this history, I would be really really interested. And just 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: when I was like thinking about this, I've found a 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: fact that air bags are designed for men, which I 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: didn't know. Probably a lot of you already knew that, 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't know that. And so here's a quote 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: from the Guardian. When a woman is involved in a 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: car crash, she is forty seven percent more likely to 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: be seriously injured and seventy one percent more likely to 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: be moderately injured, even when researchers control for factors such 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: as height and weight, seatbelt usage and crash intensity. She's 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: also seventeen percent more likely to die. And it's all 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: to do with how the car is designed and for whom. 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: And they talk about all the reasons this is. But 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: crash chest dummies essentially, when they were first introduced in 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, they were based on men, and they 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: go into all of that and why that has led 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: to the situation we're in. But it's actually it hasn't 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: gotten that much better. 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: The crash test dummy that's based off women like this year, 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: the first one. Yeah, I just read like not too 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: long ago, as in fact, like a month ordo ago. 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: Yes, and a bunch of In this article at least, 50 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: which I think was from twenty twenty two, they were 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: talking about how a bunch of like govern ment agencies 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: were like, well, it's going to mess up everything if 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: we take that into account. They were like, well, don't 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: you think you should take into account like the population, 55 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, they don't have there's not currently any 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: testing for pregnant women, so it's even worse for pregnant people. 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to look into. This was just 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: like a cursory google and I found this, So I 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: want to come back and do a whole episode on that. 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: But for now, I'm just going to talk about what's 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: going on with me with you. You know, as I was 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: joking in a recent classic, I am getting ready to 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: dry for the first time in a while, and it 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: does make me nervous. Also, I just wanted to acknowledge 65 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: that this conversation has privileged throughout and I'm going to 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: try to highlight it every time, but it does have throughout. 67 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Because I do have a car, I also do have 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity to not drive it. So I actually have 69 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: never liked driving. I never wanted to drive. I got 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: my license a year late, and it was only after 71 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: all of my younger friends got it and I felt 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: like I should. And this was, you know, in the US, 73 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: you get it. You get your learners permit at fifteen, 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: and then your license is at sixteen, and that's kind 75 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: of around when you're looking for a job. So it 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: coincided with other things, but I definitely it definitely wasn't like, oh, 77 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get it. It was like, oh, 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: I guess I have to get it. And then I 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: was involved in a car accident that was pretty serious 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: and stuck with me, and so I just even more 81 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't like it. But I also felt like I had 82 00:04:52,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: to be the one to drive, which was strange looking back, 83 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: especially where I am now, I'm like, what was I doing? 84 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: But I even recently on work trips, I've been the 85 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: one that drives, even though everyone knows I hate it, 86 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: and it's because I fill out the paperwork, I'm the 87 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: one for the rental car. But I think that's shape. 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: People know I hate it enough where they're like, I'll 89 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: fill out that paperwork, don't do it. And I have 90 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: had to tire blowouts that have really stuck with me, 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: like every time I drive, I think my tires about 92 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: to blow out. I did drive three hours a day 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: to and from work for three years, so it is 94 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: funny to me now where I am where I'm like, 95 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: I I walk, I will walk. And I got my 96 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: car kind of out of spite because it was my 97 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: brother is my older brother's car, and he had had 98 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: several crashes. He didn't take care of it. They gave 99 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: it to me. So I was lucky in that way, 100 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: like I got it. I didn't have to buy it. 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: I got it. It was a great car. Eventually, my 102 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: dad was involved in a wreck in it though, and 103 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: so it got total but he was by everyone was fine. 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: It was just one of those things where the car 105 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: just completely got totaled. And then eventually I got another 106 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: car that was donated to me from my mom. So 107 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: I've never had to buy a car. It's very privileged 108 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: race to be. I also am in a very walkable space. 109 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta as a whole is not walkable at all. It's 110 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: like a joke. It's like a well known it is 111 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: not a walkable city. We do not have good public transportation. 112 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: It might take you forever to get to the public 113 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: transportation to take it. So I'm very very privileged that 114 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: i can live in a walkable space. And I'm also 115 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: very privileged that I can take something like lyft that 116 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I can afford it, and I do if it's for work. 117 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: You best believe I charge that to the company, as 118 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. But I also have really good friends like you, Samantha, 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: who are who indulged in my like I don't want 120 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: to drive, wake me up and drive me place. 121 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Some of that is monibility to get you to come out, yeah, 122 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: because I'm like I don't want to go there about myself. 123 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: You're coming with me, I'm coming back because I will 124 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: be like I'll just walk there or I'll just whatever 125 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. And You're not the only one. I totally 126 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: get that too, that like I don't want to go 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: in alone to this venue. I want a person with me. 128 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: But it does kind of crack me up when I'm 129 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: like I'll just get there and you're like, nah, I'll 130 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: see you come in. Yeah. So I have all those 131 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: things going going for me. It is kind of funny 132 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: to me because when I was first started at the job, 133 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: that was when I was doing the commute, the three 134 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: hour commute, so I would drive to our public transport 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Marta and then I would take Marta to this job. 136 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: It's changed like several times, but essentially this job. And 137 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: at that time I kind of liked like I would 138 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: listen to MPR. I sort of liked I don't know, 139 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: I would wake up three am, four am, so I 140 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: would and hit traffic, and I liked that I could 141 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: listen to things. But one time I was driving home 142 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: and I was listening to an episode of Stuff to 143 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Your Mind that I had edited, and they were talking 144 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: about driving and that one of the hosts called it 145 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: high stakes gambling, and she described all the statistics, and 146 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: I just remember getting so tense and being like, oh no, 147 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: this was a mistake to listen to this, to listen 148 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: to this, and that's you know, I find a lot 149 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: of times I don't trust other people on the road. 150 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: I don't trust me, even though there's no reason I 151 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: actually think I'm a pretty good driver, but I'm just 152 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: nervous and I don't trust my car because it's old 153 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: and I never drive it, and so when I get 154 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: in it and it shakes like this, I'm like, is 155 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: this normal? Immediately, yeah, probably that My tire thing is 156 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: always like you need new tires. I'm like, I just 157 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: got new tires anyway. I don't trust parking in Atlanta. 158 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: That's parking in the self is a scam here in Atlanta. 159 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: That is true. You are right, but yeah, I just 160 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I tried. I literally every time 161 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I get into the car, I think this might be it. 162 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: It's just such a grim thought. You're not the only 163 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: one not think that too, And I have stories of 164 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: people where they that was that was it. It's really sad. 165 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: It's like scarier than any rollercoaster to me driving, I 166 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: don't like it. I worry about other people. I worry 167 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: about myself when other people do it. I don't. I 168 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: am like the one that's like, maybe you shouldn't like 169 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: with my mom, especially, I'm maybe you shouldn't come to Atlanta. 170 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay. But 171 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm nervous about it. I'm the person who's like, tell 172 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: me when you got home. I need to know. It's 173 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: strange to me that driving is the thing where people 174 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: literally will say, like, please drive safe, as like we're 175 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: all acknowledging that maybe something will happen. And it's funny 176 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: because I used to be, like I said, the person 177 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: who drove. I was the one did the road trips 178 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: well to like well, because I actually did do a 179 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: huge road trip. Not on that trip I didn't, but 180 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm like to like Orlando or something like that, I 181 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: would be the one that did that. But now my 182 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: anxiety and people like know how much I hate it. 183 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: People don't want me to drive, which I actually appreciate, 184 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: but I also feel bad about I'm also my car 185 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: is old. It is old. You've never driven me. Ever, 186 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't think no, I, like I said, I think 187 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm a good driver. My car is suspect. And when 188 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I was dating my ex who I dated for three years, 189 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: I used to like make a point that we would 190 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: drive equal amounts, like it wouldn't be him all the 191 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: time and it wouldn't be me all the time. And 192 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: now that's out the window for me. I'm like no, no, oh, 193 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: and there's a whole drop. I won't go into it, 194 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: but Savannah's heerd all about it about where my car 195 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: is parked and landlords and getting reported as abandoned and 196 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. Again, a scam. It is, it 197 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: really really is. So yeah, happy holidays, stay safe. I'm nervous, 198 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: Like I I drove home for my mom's birthday in 199 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: September and it was okay. But I get home and 200 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, which is already stressful. Going home is 201 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: already stressful. We're gonna into up driving. But I know 202 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: people who love it, Like I had a brief time 203 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: where I liked like it's the highway was just completely empty. 204 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I liked that, right, but it was a very brief 205 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: period of time. I did like especially as a high schooler. 206 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I do get the independence part of it of like, Okay, 207 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: I can go to the movies or I can go 208 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: to the mall or whatever. I totally get it. It's 209 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: just I am not that point in my life anymore. 210 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there is a lot to talk 211 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: about in this conversation, and I'm excited to do that 212 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: episode because I think a bunch of people don't realize it, 213 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: especially because we are such a car centric nation. If 214 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: you can't afford a car, you can't drive a car 215 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. That was one of the things when 216 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: they were like, come back to work at our office, 217 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you're paying from my lift right, 218 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: which is not a sponsored by the way, You're paying 219 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: because I'm not driving, so it's gonna be expensive right 220 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: for you to do it. And then they kind of 221 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: backed up, not because of me, but in general. I 222 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: think I'm backed off of that whole thing. But yeah, 223 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta is not a good city for not having a 224 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: car in a lot of ways. Yeah. Oh and also 225 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I I'm fine, but I have been hit as a 226 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: pedestrian five times by car. So your point, your point, 227 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Lizzie has heard and you've seen me. I won't cross 228 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: the I am like, look at every which way. I 229 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: don't like to cross the street unless I know for sure. 230 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: Again, I'm trying to think of how many times we 231 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: might have crossed the street together. I don't think that 232 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: often because you often arrive in a've left in that 233 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: area so. 234 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, you used to, because I would at your old apartment. 235 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: I would come down the street, turn around, and come 236 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: back around so I could park on so I wouldn't 237 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: have to cry the street. I did used to drive 238 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: a bit more back, yeah, but not anymore. It's gotten 239 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: more worse now. I take my car out like a 240 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: like it's a pet. I'm like, okay, make sure you 241 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: still start. We'll go on a little taunt together and. 242 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: They come back for that one spot. 243 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Then come back to that one spot that my landlord 244 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: does instruct me. He wants me to park in, so 245 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can do. Yeah. So that's just 246 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: some of my thoughts, my experience around it. Why I 247 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: don't like to drive, why I try not to drive. 248 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, it does come from a big place of privilege, 249 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: and we are going to come back into you an episode. 250 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I am excited about it. But in the meantime, thank 251 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: you so much for listening. 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