WEBVTT - Chargers Weekly: Analyzing 2025 Draft’s Top WR & OL Prospects 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:12.320 Late fifteen to ten touchdown. What's up, guys, Welcome into 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.720 a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, Episode number two 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.800 from Indianapolis as always, joined by the Voice of the 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.400 Chargers Matt Muney Smith and Money another gym of a 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.040 pot ahead. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.760 Yeah. Look, there's all our friends are here and they're 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.200 kind enough to sit with us as they make the rounds. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.280 They got a lot of requests, they can't honor them all. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.519 And today three of our favorites, CD Charles Davis, just 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.720 one of the you know Tennessee cornerback when he was playing, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.640 and of course part of you know the premiere one 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.400 of the premiere productions on CBS when it comes to 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.919 college YEP games. He called the Charger Houston Texan playoff 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.160 game and does a great shot for NFL Network covering 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.720 the Senior Bowl in the draft. So he's going to 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.960 join us, our old friend Matt Harmon, who's met reception perception. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.280 So today's cool because you know, ce deal give us 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.880 the overview. And then Matt Harmon, who has has been 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.600 charting wide receivers for a decade now, is going to 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.800 just dig into the wide receiver free agency class. Some 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.760 of the options there the draft and what might be 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.720 available there. And then you know, one of my absolute 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.520 favorite people that we get to connect with whenever we 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.560 come down to the combine is Lance Airline. And Lance 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.880 is the guy that writes every single bio for the 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.880 NFL Network. And so when you're when I worked for 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.480 the NFL Network, I had seven hundred names and a 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.480 giant binder back in the day before it was digital. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.440 They would give me three binders, massive binders. And he 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.640 was all from Lance, all from Lance. He wrote every 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.880 single bio, graded every player, every comp But his dad 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.160 is you know, his dad is well known as one 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.000 of the great o line coaches in the history of 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.960 the NFL. And so Lance was kind of raised on 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.000 offensive line, and so we'll focus on that with him. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.960 He gave us some great names. Matt Harmon obviously with 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.120 the wide receivers and so much uncertainty in the Charges 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.360 wide receiver room this offseason. So we'll get to Matt, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.480 we'll get to Lance, but we're gonna kick this thing 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.720 off with Charles Davis. All right, Maddy, one of our favorites. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.160 Charles Davis joins us here on Charges Weekly, and Charles, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.640 we saw you in Houston Yeah, I'm just talking about 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.080 just the quick turnaround with the NFL. It never stops. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.040 Saw your round and you are in. You go from 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.079 NFL mode to draft mode very very quickly. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.160 Yeah, I think we all do right. If you're in 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.440 the NFL, you're making these transitions all the time, you know. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.000 And after draft mode, we'll be into OTA Mini camp mode, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.000 then we'll be into short break mode, then we'll be 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.480 we'll be intestipating in training camp, and then we're in 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.720 the preseason, and then we're into the sea. It just 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.919 keeps going. I am old enough to remember when the 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.400 pat when the newspaper would arrive, the headline at a 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.359 certain point around this time of year would be pictures 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.239 and Catchers Report, and it would be this massive headline. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.280 I remember one year it said pictures and Catchers Report. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.200 I don't you know, I've conflated things. But along that line, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:08.880 in the time frame of it, there's this blurb about 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.800 Giants draft Rocky Thompson number one. He was their first 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.400 round pick. He was a kick returner, wide receiver out 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:22.000 of North Texas State. It was three inches Pictures and 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:27.799 Catchers Report. Yeah, now it's pictures and Catchers Report. Is 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.320 the blurby and where will Aaron Rodgers go? 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:32.320 Na it right? 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:33.920 Headlines that's how we've changed. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.360 Yeah, let's go to Houston. Let's talk about that. You 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.880 called the game, and you know, one of the things 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.640 that DJ said, Uh, you know we're both fortunate enough 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.720 to work with DJ is that you know you're and 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.200 it's an old football cleahere, right, your weaknesses get exposed 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.840 in the postseason. So did you feel like that's kind 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.640 of played out for the Chargers and they kind of 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.800 have a pretty good idea of what needs to be addressed, I. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.160 Would think so. I mean it's a very smart organization, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.280 as you guys know, especially with the changes that you've 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.320 had over the last year. I mean just in last year. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.320 What's been infused there? Because I remember seeing Joe Hortiz 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.240 when he got the job and we were talking knowing 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.160 m from Baltimore, and I was like, so congratulations during 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.200 cap hell huh yeah, And he knew it when he 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:14.640 took job. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.440 He's not naive. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.240 He Jim and the rest of the organization went to 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.880 work knowing, Okay, we got to try and mitigate here, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.160 we got to go bring some and the moves they've 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.480 made let's be honest about the moves they made her 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.039 off the charts. We got to talk to JK. Dobbins 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.520 before the game. Well, the enthusiasm. He came in and 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.920 literally hugged all of us to say hello and then 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.120 hugged us all goodbye. I was like, can I just 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.560 hang with him for a while? Really like him? But 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:42.080 you're talking about you know, this was not new front line, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.960 not new defensive front, not new We've had that for 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.560 X number of years now. So here's an opportunity now 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.880 to start to make some moves that way and see 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.640 where they're gonna go. I mean, I'm looking at this. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.839 I actually did some notes last night for myself. You 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.520 know what's gonna happen? Edge rusher wise, right, because for 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.719 a long time that's been a strength. But right now 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.240 could that be beefed up? I'd say the answer is 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.800 going to be yes, you're gonna have to do that. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.840 We mentioned inside in terier when people want to run 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.400 the ball defensive front, on the offensive side of the ball. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.120 Everybody likes a good tight end. Oh yeah, right, everybody. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.520 Any quarterback I always talked about young quarterbacks love the 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.839 tight ends. Every quarterback loves a good tight end. We're 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.479 gonna do it the pivot, you know, because offensive line 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.960 really started to get a makeover, a bunch of different 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.680 places to go. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.359 But you Jo said yesterday about Zion maybe getting a 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:33.960 look at center. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.200 I did not hear that. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.479 That's an interesting that's an interesting thought because if he 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.799 can and now you're just replacing it that guard position, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.360 you've really strengthened your your offensive line. Because I think 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.120 that center has become more valuable than ever. I really do, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.599 just by the way people are doing things. Would we 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.520 say that the Super Bowl of Seattle and the Patriots 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.360 really brought into focus how big it is to have 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.760 the center. Yeah, and the interior line taken care of. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.480 And we probably missed the lesson that Sean Payton gave 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.520 us for years ago, especially if you have a smaller quarterback. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:10.080 Now you don't. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.599 You have monster a quarterback, but the smaller quarterback exists 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.520 in the league like crazy. Sean Payton got out ahead 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.320 of it because what did he have in the middle 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.240 Mammoth people, the Jarry Evans Is of the world and 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.480 what have you. Because Drew wasn't tall, but that allowed 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.400 him a cup to step up in and find sight 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.680 lines and throw the ball and networked pretty well for them. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.000 Charles, I think they've taken kind of a two step 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.960 approach with the offensive line. You get old you already 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.000 have Slater who's doing a big contract, and now it's 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.360 time to solidify the interior line. But on top of that, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.920 you mentioned what Joe did this past year has been masterful. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.120 But now I guess it's a good problem. You have 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.960 twenty six unrestricted free agents, So how do you prioritize 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:54.080 which guys come back while knowing that you have some 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.400 holes into your offensive line? And then how does the 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.679 draft come into play? How does the unrestricted free agency 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.239 dictate what they do in the draft? 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.640 The priorities are going to be who are the guys 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.120 that we feel like we have to have to play 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.880 and what's our price tag on them? Without saying, well, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.720 we really like him, so we'll go a little higher. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.800 Now you're starting to eat into your margins and you're 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.760 going to hurt yourself elsewhere. I have a pretty good 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.320 idea that Joe and crew are going to be like, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.160 this is what we value him. If we get him 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:22.560 for this. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:22.920 We're good. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.680 If not, we'll go elsewhere with luck. Yeah, right, and 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.680 go from there. And then once you're done with that, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.480 then you know what you've got to do in the draft. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.200 And because as our friend Daniel Jeremiah said, this is 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.480 a meat and potatoes draft, Yep, you're probably pretty decent 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.040 shape to go get people with whatever round you want 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.840 to the guys that have a chance to play. And 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.440 I think that's where they're good. I think that's what 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.040 they'll do. And I'd be surprised to hear that they 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.320 overpaid for anyone. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.400 I really would. I don't think that's how they operate. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.840 Those that are watching a lot of people listening right 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.880 now on the pod, but those that are watching, they 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.239 get to see the exquisite taste in headwear that CD 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.920 with his melon hat brought to the table never shows 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.480 a sweat stain. Throw them in the dishwashers. That yeah, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:07.840 we surfing. They're amazing. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.320 They're amazing, Right, how did you get turned onto it? 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.080 They sent me one. They were just like, hey, we 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.720 hear you're a surfer I was talking about on the air, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.520 and they're like, if you like, if you ever want 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.200 to wear a hat in the water, try this out, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.200 and they flipped it to me. I was like, Holy crap, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:19.600 this thing. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.440 I need to hang out with you more. No one's 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.040 ever sent me anything but. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.200 Well, since they will never se. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.960 My son turned me onto it. He said this because 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.160 I wear hats a lot, because the hair is you know, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.680 there's there's not a lot to it. So so the 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.920 so my son goes, listen, you know, you're always in 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.840 a hat. This is what I want you to try. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.840 So I always let him pick my head. And there, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.120 you know, he said. And he told me, he said, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.880 you're not gonna want to wear anything else, and he's right. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.160 I brought three with them. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.199 There we go. Your son knows. Let's let's get into 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.400 the chiefs because people are taking shots at him now, saying, lookod, 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.440 look at this. There's it's the a f C. West. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.440 It's a pain. It's been a pain for a while. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.880 So what do you think moving forward? You know, the 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.000 challengers you had Broncos and the Chargers make the playoffs, Like, yeah, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.560 how in peril do you think the throne is for 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.120 Kansas City going into twenty. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.200 Twenty the most imperil it's been under Andy Reid. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.000 And and I don't mean to be overly dramatic, it's 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:21.560 just simply you have two teams now that know that 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.640 they can do this. Like, even though you don't have 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:28.640 the actual full evidence, the idea that the Chargers lost 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.360 twice to them last year is still confounding to them. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.160 You flip it over to Denver. Was that a block 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:35.720 field goal? 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.760 Yeah? Right about that. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.880 We didn't matter, but they laid it on them anyway 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.199 because it felt good. You know, it felt good to 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.160 go ahead and let your rookie quarterback get some more 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.320 experience and beat them down like that. They still have 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.440 to go get it done. I don't think the Chiefs 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.800 are going like, oh, they're off the cliff. I don't 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.520 think they're there. But I do think that the confidence 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.440 level of everyone in the AFC West has to be 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.120 at an altar time high, Like if there's a chance 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.559 to go get this is our chance to go get 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:04.240 them right now. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:04.560 Now. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.600 We'll see what Kansay does offseason. But guys, this is 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.800 like NBA when you have the same team make deep runs. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.719 How many extra games now are on the wear and 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.280 tear of your core? Because you know the league is 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.320 the league is your core and then you build around 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.920 your core, and around your core changes all the time, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:29.000 but your core Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones, those guys, how 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.199 many extra games have they played? 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.400 Now? 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.160 It just keeps going and going and going. And I'm 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.360 telling you that Super Bowl I'm taking zero credit away 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.280 from Philadelphia. But if Kansas City didn't look like a 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.680 fighter who had gone one fight too long, I don't 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.040 know what else to do. I don't know what else 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.120 to say. That's how they look that night. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:45.360 Now. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.240 I don't expect them to be that way in next season, 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.120 but I also don't expect them to go fifteen and two. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.079 Just don't say it, you. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.920 Know, Charles, Let's go back to Houston too. I think 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.600 that that game was the perfect illustration of this Chargers 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.440 offense in what's lacking on the outside? Talk out one 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.720 hundred ninety seventy yards receiving. Nobody else really did anything 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.439 in that game. The Chargers are lacking an X A 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.520 receiver on the other side of Ladd. Can you find 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.560 it in this draft? What's the best way to approach it? 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.560 Because it sounds like t Higgins is franchised. I don't know. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.800 I don't know how you going to get him out 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.839 of Cincinnati. I don't think you are Adams an option 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.240 like what would you do me? 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:24.400 Baron comes with him. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.240 That's what it sounds like. It's a good number two, right, 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.040 good number two. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.640 It sounds to me like Devonte Adams replaced Randall cobp 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.200 as Aaron's running guy, right and and somewhere Alm those are. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.480 It's like, yo, yo, yo, what about me? Don't forget me. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.079 We'll see if they do. I think you can find 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.640 those guys. I think there's a bunch of them there. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.360 Obviously at the top of the food chain. You know, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.800 you get to Travis Hunter is the receiver, is a corner, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:48.800 you know that sort of. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.880 A deal you've got. You know what is Luther Burden 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:52.200 for you? 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:52.400 Right? 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.559 Although he kind of looks more. 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.880 Like La lad Yeah, I think right right, thank you? 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.040 Right, you have from McMillan that. But he's not gonna 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.560 I don't think he's gonna blow us away running. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:02.920 No. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.640 I think he's gonna be fine. But you're not gonna 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.000 go what did he run again? I don't think you 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.160 see that he wins with body control, going up and 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.040 getting it rout running, which I love like a Drake London, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.920 thank you, just not quite as big as Drake, right, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:23.400 Drake's monsters we saw that's a big man. It's like, damn, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.800 that's a big man. Right, So I totally get it. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:28.640 But I do think there's a bunch of them out there. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.240 It's not as sexy as we've had it before, but 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.040 I've said it before. Dj' is probably sick of me 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.079 saying it. As long as we're gonna play football the 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.800 way we're playing it, every year, you're gonna a million receivers, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.160 you are, and most of them are gonna be fairly 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.400 accomplished because they've been playing pitch and catch since seven 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:45.680 on seven in middle school. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:46.000 Yep. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.560 So it's a whole different ballgame. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.760 Last thing for you, CD, we appreciate it. You were 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.120 at the Senior Bowl. You mentioned the pivot, and you know, 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.400 I think maybe the biggest name to come out of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.080 there was Gray's Abel. Thank you so talking there we go, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:00.559 so talk to us out there. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:00.800 He is. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.080 You know, it used to be crazy to think that 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.120 you take a center, you know, but you look at 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.200 what Linderbaum's done. You look at some of these centers 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:08.679 that go and then last year Graham. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.160 Barton, remember Corey Linsley when you brought him over a 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:11.560 free agent. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.640 It's difference that it made the difference that it makes. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.360 So can you see that, Like, does that if you 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.440 have Colston Loveland, if if a Marion Hampton is there, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.640 if Tamax slides, Like, can you see Gray's able being 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.720 a realistic pick for this team or is it too rich? 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.800 I feel like I still feel like he would be 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.320 a second round guy. You know, I think if those 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.360 other guys were available, I think they'd go there. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:35.200 I just do. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.000 I think it's It's still one of those things where 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.880 can you name the rams front five? Can you name 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.720 the interior guys? Because it especially as the way, especially 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.920 the way the season went. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.720 Yah, I know what you're saying, and yet they function. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.920 So if you have the right play call or the 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.600 right system and all that, you can do it. I 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.439 think you can hide a few deficiencies there better than 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.280 because if you can get Loveland right, you gotta go exact, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.559 you gotta do it. But if I could get Gray's abel, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.920 I'm making my center like I'm not playing in MC 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.320 guard I'm putting him at center right away. You know 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.199 who if you get him later, the Monnheim kid out 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.680 of us see a heck of a week, and I 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.160 think that he can play in this league. I'd be 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.520 surprised if he can't. I need to do some more work. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.680 I've got Drew Kendall from Boston College down. I'm old 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:25.840 enough to remember his old man. And you remember not 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.000 a center, but Ozzie Trapea who was putting Trapillo Trapella, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.520 who was playing a tackle at. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.480 The Senior Bowl, big out of Boston College. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 I played in the Japan Bowl with his dad, and 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.880 his dad passed away young. He had a heart attack 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.880 and passed away by putting Japan Bowl with Steve. That's 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.480 when I go, old brothers. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.240 Get right. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.160 We were in we were in. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:51.600 Tokyo. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.320 We're in Tokyo. And I'll just leave it. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.320 This way, those old bowl games that we grew up watching, 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.760 the hull of Bowl, Japan Bowl, right, senior all those 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.880 think of it this way. Bo Jackson played in the 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:05.680 Japan Bowl. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.800 Bo Jackson played in the Japan Bowl. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.840 Pretty great. Think about that, Yeah, it's pretty great. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.000 Not in twenty twenty five. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.480 Could you imagine if he said, you know, I think 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.080 I'm playing in Japan, but and how many people have 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.280 tackled him in his camp? 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:20.480 Right? 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.520 No, no, no, absolutely not. You don't even get on the 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.200 plane Japan. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.520 I'm not even risking it, not even a tourist. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.880 But in that Japan Bowl I played in Brett Fulwan 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.600 was the first round pick for the Packers. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.280 Oh yeah, played in Japan Bowl. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.400 Look at that fantastic Charles Davis. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.000 Get for an hour, man, We can't take it for 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.640 your time to your next destination. Appreciate you, s gread 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.720 to see you. Guys. Always the best, the best man. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.920 This week is so fun. So many friends joining us 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:53.280 on Chargers Weekly. Matt Harmon in person in Indianapolis, first combine. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.440 I mean, I'm just still struck. Friend. I mean, that's 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.120 that's high bar. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:57.440 Right. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.760 I appreciate colleague, not contemporary. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:06.720 Workplace proximity is a former work worker. Absolutely, it's awesome 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.080 to be here. It's great. Peanut butter denial, Yeah, peanut 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.680 butter denial. Many many or chain out. We're chain in today. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:19.960 Yesterday was chain out. We'll see tonight though, chanin's probably 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:20.240 coming out. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:20.880 It's coming out. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:21.160 Yeah. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.600 Listen, you don't throw around weight on inclined bench and 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.640 keep your chaining. You know, Matt's remade his body. He's 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.040 all barrel chested. He's throwing around freaking plates at the 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.760 y m c A, you get your chain out. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.600 That was what I was doing, like an hour ago. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:36.360 I was up in the hotel gym, you. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.360 Know, just full at the podium. Today we are we 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:39.960 interviewing you. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.080 I think I probably should get up there and see 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.600 how long it would take for somebody be like, wait 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.840 a second, that guy, that guy's not a ball play. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:51.200 That's that guy dissects wide receivers. Now you're gonna have 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.000 to get the line plate, dude, you know, with this 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:53.880 new body of yours. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.400 It is funny. I interviewed thelak neighbors at the at 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.200 the super Bowl, and people like my podcast were just like, wow, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.800 this's got a lot of Engagemently, let's go check out 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.880 the comments. Most of it was like, does neighbors need 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.719 to hit the weight room? Was like no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.120 I'm like probably sixty pounds having that right. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.840 No, I'm I'm a big bodied white dude that lives 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.640 in Virginia. That's all I got. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.359 Hey, that's all I've got to do is lift weights. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.800 So let's tell the people about reception per se. Nobody's 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.600 better at it. We're gonna talk straight wide receivers with Matt. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.000 He does reception perception. He's done it for a long time, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.240 You're great at it. Let's go just share with the 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.600 people to kind of I think set a baseline last year, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.120 huge wide receiver class, sort of what you thought and 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.320 where Lad McConkie fit into that mix with I think 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.720 it was what the sixth pass catcher taken in the draft, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.840 So kind of how you shook how you saw last 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:40.640 year shaken out. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.439 Yeah, last year was great for business. It was a 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.240