Speaker 1: What's up, friends, and welcome in to leading off with
Speaker 1: Bogman and the Welsh. The in this League invasion rolls on,
Speaker 1: My friends, how is everybody doing? Peanuts and cracker jacks?
Speaker 1: We got Wonky in the chat and we have got
Speaker 1: the one, the only, mister Scoot Boogman. Scott Bogman at
Speaker 1: Bogman Sports on Twitter. Oh hi, Scott, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good, Wels. It's been a little bit since we talked.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, we definitely don't spend way too
Speaker 2: much time together, so that's good. But I'm excited to
Speaker 2: be back and on this show and talk to you
Speaker 2: about some baseball today. We had a good one last night.
Speaker 2: Dbacks were awesome.
Speaker 1: Dvacs were awesome, as we gonna tell them the v
Speaker 1: Backs here. What better way to start off the show
Speaker 1: than your favorite thing than talking negatively about the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers. How about that? Because Tony Gonsolyn finally took
Speaker 1: his soul. I know, he finally took his first loss
Speaker 1: of the year Monday, after allowing four runs in the
Speaker 1: six against the Nationals. He had not allowed a run
Speaker 1: more than two earned runs in a start this season.
Speaker 1: Bogman i had actually wrote up a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: prior in the Cell Them by Cell article, Tony Gonsoon
Speaker 1: was my guy. It's kind of like old hat news
Speaker 1: here at this point. It's like, you know, super super.
Speaker 2: Low expectations were looking for finally back through here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you have been spearheading this. Tony Gonsoon is
Speaker 2: going to be no good in the second half because
Speaker 2: I believe his lob was like ninety nine percent or
Speaker 2: something absurd that backup was under two hundred. He was.
Speaker 2: It was like him and one other picture in the BIGS.
Speaker 2: I know these numbers because you've repeated them so many times.
Speaker 1: You know. What was was brutal. I saw. I was
Speaker 1: like tuning into the game. I had a prop going
Speaker 1: last night. Freddy Freeman did not pay off. Brandon Jury did.
Speaker 1: For anybody that took that with me, Freddy Freeman did
Speaker 1: not pay off, unfortunately. So I was watching that game
Speaker 1: a bit to see if that prop was going to hit.
Speaker 1: And it was like early on and I'd come in
Speaker 1: for like Freddy Freeman at baths and Gonsolin was kind
Speaker 1: of dealing a little bit earlier, and I was like, sure,
Speaker 1: you use Gonsolin, like I'm like how I was actually
Speaker 1: having that question in your head where it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: we know regressions coming.
Speaker 2: But how much is it to go before whatever?
Speaker 1: The underlying things don't really matter. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: Christian Walker with the Diamondbacks. You and I have talked
Speaker 1: about second Lois, babbitb and all of baseball. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how much is it going to matter if he
Speaker 1: just carries it the whole time, like you know, a
Speaker 1: historical thing would till you, it would change Shane Bieber
Speaker 1: Tony Gonsolin. So I was, I was questioning myself last
Speaker 1: time and think.
Speaker 2: Don't every question yourself? Come on, well, what are you
Speaker 2: think in here? You were on the right path in
Speaker 2: this This result that we were waiting for finally did happen.
Speaker 2: So there it is. Yes, I mean, and handing an
Speaker 2: L to any Dodger feeds my soul.
Speaker 1: It does, It does feed your soul one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We also in uh Dodger news Walker Buehler played a
Speaker 1: played a little catch, played a little bit of throsies
Speaker 1: last time yesterday. I believe it was getting closer. Bogman,
Speaker 1: do you call it uh having a catch or having
Speaker 1: a throw? Do you know the term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say playing catch.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I see a lot of people saying like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a catch. Not well, that is like
Speaker 1: a Midwest thing because that I've never experienced.
Speaker 2: Its feel the dreams.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: When he has a catch with his dad, that's what
Speaker 2: he calls it.
Speaker 1: So everybody likes to have We're gonna we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a catch. We're gonna play some catch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're gonna we're gonna have a catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's either play catch or have a catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Gokart says it's playing catch. I say it's playing catch.
Speaker 1: But there's a catch in there. Oh, have a toss,
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 2: A toss, you know, throw some There's all kinds of
Speaker 2: different ways to say it.
Speaker 1: So you okay, you're like whatever, Just let's not keep
Speaker 1: talking about it making me feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make me feel uncomfortable. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: Walker Peeler, there are regional differences still, you know me, man,
Speaker 2: I like, guys already hurt. He's gonna be slowly baby back.
Speaker 2: They want him for the playoff. They don't want him
Speaker 2: for the end of the regular season. So you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know for fantasy. I'm not really excited. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna baby him.
Speaker 1: Look at go cards. By the way, do you guys
Speaker 1: even watch baseball? It's playing catch.
Speaker 2: So that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1: He was saying, there another big injury starting picture news.
Speaker 1: Jacob de Grom set for triple A rehabitt assignment tomorrow
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, bogs and perceivably the last one. This will
Speaker 1: be the last dog was the last one? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be the last one. It was just
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's just getting ramped up, Bogman. Oh is
Speaker 1: that right? Yeah, don't talk negatively about Jacob de Grom.
Speaker 1: This is the last one, the last of the last ones,
Speaker 1: which would line him up probably for like a gosh.
Speaker 1: I think it was they were saying, like Monday, the
Speaker 1: first something like that would be the I don't think
Speaker 1: that lies.
Speaker 2: What they're saying, Monday, the first of September or August.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one it is for Jacob de
Speaker 2: Gram anymore so. Uh, the setbacks scared me. I was
Speaker 2: already off of Jacob de Gram. You guys know that,
Speaker 2: I you know, you talk about someone who's gonna be
Speaker 2: unbelievably babied. He already has been through the rehab process
Speaker 2: because he's still he's gonna be playing hurt. You know,
Speaker 2: torn UCLs don't go away because you you rested on
Speaker 2: them for a couple of months. So, uh, it was
Speaker 2: your dad, Homer Simpson.
Speaker 1: But that's very funny today. That's funny today. But I'm
Speaker 1: optimistic we're gonna be all eyes on it. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing this MLB. This was
Speaker 1: like whatever right before the All Star Game. They ended
Speaker 1: up broadcasting on MLB dot TV the rehab start that
Speaker 1: he had, and I don't know if they are expecting
Speaker 1: to get that going bolus.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what I said, Like, it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: We want to watch Jacob Grum and see what he's doing.
Speaker 2: But I mean there's plenty of you know, uh, there's
Speaker 2: plenty of fourteen year olds throwing against eight year olds
Speaker 2: and stuff. We could go watch on YouTube too. It
Speaker 2: looks like the same stuff because de Grom just outclasses
Speaker 2: every single level. It's not even close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a brutal experience for any
Speaker 1: of these guys.
Speaker 2: The outlasses, the big leagues. Yeah, you should be playing
Speaker 2: in the big big leagues, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is there a bigger big league?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's called like the Subway Series or you know,
Speaker 1: playing the Dodgers or something, that's the big big league. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: not playing in Toronto, Bogman is going to be Paul
Speaker 1: gold Schmith and Nolan Aernauto, who are both officially placed
Speaker 1: on the restricted list, So we don't have to go
Speaker 1: down that or abbit hall.
Speaker 2: We have to go on that hall. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say a good thing. We have it on the
Speaker 2: sheet here, let's talk about let's let's really get into it.
Speaker 2: I'm oh, yeah, it sucks. You know, you miss those
Speaker 2: guys for three games, but they'll be back after that,
Speaker 2: so at least they're not hurt.
Speaker 1: So two games, but yeah, I think it's just two
Speaker 1: games series going to be Yeah, yeah, exactly. But both
Speaker 1: placed on the restricted list. You mentioned it. Merle Kelly.
Speaker 1: Merle Meryl Kelly fired eight scoreless innings as the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: beat up on the Giants seven to nothing. And I
Speaker 1: believe they had a late switch by the way where
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be Tyler Gilbert pitching yesterday, and
Speaker 1: they put it in Kelly was going and then Gilbert
Speaker 1: is going today. I think that was maybe there's an
Speaker 1: expectation thing in there, but Meryl.
Speaker 2: That sound was awesome. He was, and in fact, he
Speaker 2: was so good that it actually led to what we're
Speaker 2: going to be doing on our down the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: over at il today because I text you in the
Speaker 2: middle of this in the fifth inning when he was
Speaker 2: perfect through five. Yeah, I text you and I said,
Speaker 2: might want to flip on, Meryl Kelly to what's what
Speaker 2: tonight on that game and first batter in the sixth
Speaker 2: inning base hit, of course, because that's just the way
Speaker 2: it works. So maybe started thinking about baseball superstitions and
Speaker 2: stuff that.
Speaker 1: So exactly is h We have a like a little
Speaker 1: comedy show of Bogman and I do, and it's going
Speaker 1: to be all about superstitions and the sports superstitions. Because
Speaker 1: I went into the game Diamondbacks, I think scored a
Speaker 1: couple runs in there, and then I think, yeah, immediately
Speaker 1: gave up the hit, and it got me thinking, as
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it, I think the acknowledging
Speaker 1: a no hitter perfect game might be the greatest sports
Speaker 1: superstition that lives. I don't think there's a bet. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd be curious about it. This is for our other show,
Speaker 1: but you know you can be here. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a bigger superstition, if you can be more
Speaker 1: stitious on anything outside of the don't call a perfect
Speaker 1: game or no hitter. I think it might be the
Speaker 1: biggest one of all. But you know what, we will
Speaker 1: discuss that later. But Merril was awesome last night. I
Speaker 1: thought this one was interesting. Jonathan India getting back to it.
Speaker 1: Bogman launched his first career Grand Slam Monday as the
Speaker 1: Red beat up on the Marlins. He was hitting two
Speaker 1: oh five July fifth, which was my daughter and life's birthday.
Speaker 1: He is now up to two forty. We had let go.
Speaker 1: We've completely let go of Jonathan India. People are ready
Speaker 1: to cut him. I actually turned down a trade earlier
Speaker 1: in the years of Points League though, so India for
Speaker 1: Max Meyer and I'm just curious, are you back on
Speaker 1: the Jonathan India train. He's hit around two sixty in
Speaker 1: the month of July. He had a horrific previous month.
Speaker 1: Injuries have been there, but looks like he's he's getting
Speaker 1: back and has raised his batting average almost forty points
Speaker 1: since July fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm in on Jonathan India and I
Speaker 2: think it's one of those cases and you've seen it
Speaker 2: many many times. I feel like ti Oscar Hernandez had
Speaker 2: it earlier in this season as well, where the guy
Speaker 2: just came back too early, you know, and it was
Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't bothering him, maybe it just threw him
Speaker 2: into a funk, you could. It's hard to tell with
Speaker 2: that stuff because you know, we're not talking to these
Speaker 2: guys every single day. But it's like, is this still
Speaker 2: hampering you and bothering you or are you just out
Speaker 2: of your rhythm because you didn't play for X amount days.
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell which one is which, But I
Speaker 2: kind of think that's what was going on with India.
Speaker 2: Had happened to ti Oscar earlier in the season as well,
Speaker 2: and now he's been crushing it. It was like it's
Speaker 2: like three weeks after he came back and then he
Speaker 2: started crushing, and I believe the same thing is going
Speaker 2: on here with India. So happy to see him hitting again,
Speaker 2: and it's all like if you're a Reds fan, it's
Speaker 2: always so much fun to see a player hit their
Speaker 2: first career Grand Slam. You know, per Domo for the
Speaker 2: d Backs first homer was a Grand Slam. I remember
Speaker 2: Justin Upton's first Grand Slam as a Diamondback. Welsh was
Speaker 2: against the Dodgers and we choked the lead away and lost,
Speaker 2: and I remember being very angry about it. So there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: Looking over at India too, it's been fastballs that have
Speaker 1: destroyed him this year. Last year he hit three to
Speaker 1: oh one against fastballs, but he had an XBA of
Speaker 1: two seventy eight. So again you can see an obvious decline,
Speaker 1: like playing over his head down to two fifteen two
Speaker 1: fifteen versus fastballs. This year he's hitting breaking pitches better.
Speaker 1: Off speed is still kind of you know, the crap
Speaker 1: hole that he's going to be dealing with. But two
Speaker 1: fifteen to three zero one, huge, huge differential, and Berreling
Speaker 1: has been an issue. It's cut in half from last year.
Speaker 1: Ex velocity, way down. His average you know you want
Speaker 1: to be careful about like average TVs and stuff, eighty
Speaker 1: four point five. It was eighty seven point six last year.
Speaker 1: So there's obviously you can't go and look at like
Speaker 1: the entirety of the season, because it's starting to piece
Speaker 1: itself into different seasons. But I think this is like
Speaker 1: a really good by time on Jonathan India. You know,
Speaker 1: a couple of the guys, the Fantasy pros, guys I
Speaker 1: Seewonkee and looks like Mayor both mentioned the head and
Speaker 1: let go of India. I would not be letting go
Speaker 1: of India. But you've seen him be let go. You
Speaker 1: see people want to rid themselves of India, and if
Speaker 1: the cost is nice and cheap, I think it's not
Speaker 1: a bad time. So it's nice to see that happen.
Speaker 1: And bagman, he will never go away. He is the
Speaker 1: roach of Major League Baseball. Just had to put this
Speaker 1: in here. Dallas Kikol is back and he's signed a deal,
Speaker 1: minor league deal with the Rangers and this would be
Speaker 1: his third team this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as he's not in Arizona, that's all
Speaker 2: I care about. So you know, look, I understand keeping
Speaker 2: the dream alive and everything, but at home for Dallas,
Speaker 2: kaykle Is, Kelly Nash, go home, Bud. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, send him off, Just send him off like
Speaker 1: it'll be okay, Dallas.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine. You did a great job. You
Speaker 2: worked real hard. I mean he was. He was awesome
Speaker 2: for a big stretch.
Speaker 1: You know what they should do I haven't. I got
Speaker 1: a great idea for the All Star Game. They should
Speaker 1: do like an elimination match in wrestling. Our buddy Joe
Speaker 1: is gone today. I forgot to mention that at the
Speaker 1: top Joe was out seeing WWE and I think he
Speaker 1: was in New York, so he just didn't make it
Speaker 1: back in time. He'll tell us all about it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But they should do at the All Star Game an
Speaker 1: elimination pitch match, and it's Patrick Corbyn versus Dallas Kiko
Speaker 1: and a hitch off and the one loser retires match
Speaker 1: los loser loser leaves losers out. So it's a like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a literal like a it's a career
Speaker 1: retirement match, and they just do that. Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be awesome? Like two worst pitchers in baseball,
Speaker 1: it's a pitch off to see who's going to get
Speaker 1: kicked out of there forever.
Speaker 2: I mean, we say that, but one of them has
Speaker 2: been in the Major leagues in the same team all
Speaker 2: year and the other guy has been on three teams.
Speaker 2: I you know, well that Patrick Corbyn is definitely going
Speaker 2: to win. But Patrick Corbin is definitely gonna win.
Speaker 1: That's I think that would be a great but you
Speaker 1: know what, then let's build the legend. You also build
Speaker 1: the legend of what would then be the worst pitcher
Speaker 1: in baseball. You build the legend because they beat the
Speaker 1: other guy. I think it's a great move. I think
Speaker 1: it's that's one of my cures.
Speaker 2: To uh that both worst pitchers in baseball had to
Speaker 2: be involved with the Diamondbacks at some point. Just that's
Speaker 2: the way it is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And Dallas wister.
Speaker 1: Buster said, or have Kyle and Corbyn just pitch regularly
Speaker 1: for the home run derby, you know, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: very very good idea. A couple of injuries. Chris Bryant
Speaker 1: is going to visit a specialist today in Denver. He
Speaker 1: was not in the lineup because of some sore foot
Speaker 1: seats he had.
Speaker 2: Finally starting to come back. I think he fouled them
Speaker 2: off his foot or something like. He was finally starting
Speaker 2: to hit again and drop some bombs and stuff and
Speaker 2: it's gone avantage, of course, and it's gone moved back line.
Speaker 2: No more Chris Brian here, goodbye.
Speaker 1: Nope, I'm really really getting over it the whole like
Speaker 1: injury first half, not being able to hit in cores,
Speaker 1: not hitting homers. Then you start to pick it up,
Speaker 1: and then more injuries rampants at thirty. I'll tell you man,
Speaker 1: as someone that has experienced a couple of those different
Speaker 1: markers of like you go from your twenties to your thirties,
Speaker 1: and you hit your mid thirties and then you're going
Speaker 1: to close to pushing your forties. Brian's not doing well
Speaker 1: with that transition from thirty twenties to thirties because it
Speaker 1: has been a rough rough go this year and I'm
Speaker 1: relatively out and speaking about Mackenzie Gore was removed from
Speaker 1: his start on Monday or his relief appearance on Monday
Speaker 1: versus the Tigers with left elbow soreness.
Speaker 2: I probably should have went ahead and let him not
Speaker 2: start while you're trying to acquire Juan Soto, but okay, sucks,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: That actually leads us to a very very interesting question
Speaker 1: with Mackenzie Gore where he's tied Jim Bowden, So can
Speaker 1: we talk about this tweet? Bogs. We all know the
Speaker 1: Wan Soto stuff is out there. We all know the
Speaker 1: Wan soda trade rumors. Everyone's talking about it. I saw
Speaker 1: this tweet and I was fascinated. Jim Boden tweets, the
Speaker 1: Wan Soto trade market is like the present housing market.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a way to get I bet this.
Speaker 2: Everything is way too expensive. I bet this.
Speaker 1: Everybody else are incredible. So he says it's like the
Speaker 1: present housing market. The nationals are not only going to
Speaker 1: get their asking price, but might even get more. Interest
Speaker 1: is from all market sizes and is robust. Here's the
Speaker 1: one that really stood out. Expect the biggest hall in
Speaker 1: MLB history. And he said there is no front runner
Speaker 1: as of this morning. And this tweet was I think today.
Speaker 1: I think it was this morning here. So there's a
Speaker 1: couple of things I would love to know. First off,
Speaker 1: can you recall what was the biggest trade in MLB history? So, like,
Speaker 1: if we're saying this will be the biggest hall, what
Speaker 1: would you say the biggest trade is? Does anything come
Speaker 1: to mind? Uh?
Speaker 2: There have been so many trades, dude, I just can't
Speaker 2: think of one that was unbelievable. I remember I remember
Speaker 2: the Braves getting a lot for uh to share or
Speaker 2: the Rangers getting a lot for to share it from
Speaker 2: the Braves. I remember the d Backs gave everything in
Speaker 2: the world up for Richie Sexton.
Speaker 1: Who okay, let me, I mean that wasn't incredible. They
Speaker 1: didn't really give up a whole bunch, but they gave
Speaker 1: up like counting a lot of players, seven players I
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like top end prospects. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, So okay, So let me ask this, then, is
Speaker 1: the biggest haul dictated by the name of the player
Speaker 1: or the sheer amount of players that probably qualify as
Speaker 1: being like decent.
Speaker 2: It's the name. It's always the names, Like it's the
Speaker 2: bigger the names, and you know, when you trade big
Speaker 2: leaguers in a deal plus top end minor leaguers, that's
Speaker 2: the type of hall that we know that the Nationals
Speaker 2: are looking for here, and that that's something to me.
Speaker 2: It's always the names and not the you know, value
Speaker 2: over volume for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious of what people think the number one is.
Speaker 1: If anyone in the chat has it drop it, I'd
Speaker 1: be curious because I kind of struggled with like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if we are going to dictate this as the biggest
Speaker 1: haul in history, because that's the word.
Speaker 2: Here, it's g a ton for Randy, I remember that deal.
Speaker 1: The biggest hall, so again that that is not referring
Speaker 1: to like, hey, this would be the biggest trade ever
Speaker 1: because hey, Wan Soda is involved this. No, the biggest
Speaker 1: haul in the history of baseball is the idea for
Speaker 1: what I think probably deserves it to be. So if
Speaker 1: anybody has one, drop it. But I'll ask you, bogs,
Speaker 1: there is no front runner. Of course, that's the term
Speaker 1: right now that they're saying there's no front all the
Speaker 1: different markets we've seen everybody jump in. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you to give me. Let's start with the Cardinals. Let
Speaker 1: me just do two teams. What does the biggest haul
Speaker 1: in the history of the MLB trade market look like?
Speaker 1: For the Cardinals team if they were to acquire one Soda.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it has to be two big leaguers,
Speaker 2: you know, like Tyler O'Neill, Dylan Carlson, and then their
Speaker 2: top prospect Jordan Walker and Matt Libator and probably other
Speaker 2: pieces as well.
Speaker 1: It have to that's the biggest trade though if that,
Speaker 1: if it goes down, do you think like we're gonna
Speaker 1: go back and we're gonna like for one player?
Speaker 2: Will really too because if you trade for Soda, you
Speaker 2: have to trade Patrick Corbin, you have to take Patrick
Speaker 2: Corbin's contract as well. I think for one to get
Speaker 2: one guy that would be I mean, it has to
Speaker 2: be close. You know, you talk about two major leagues
Speaker 2: ready to go outfielders plus one of the top top
Speaker 2: ten prospect and a big time pitching prospect. You know,
Speaker 2: I feel like it has to be. It has to
Speaker 2: be close. I just don't know if any team has
Speaker 2: enough to make it the biggest deal ever.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if we're going to dictate it is
Speaker 1: the biggest deal in history, it is going to have
Speaker 1: to require more major leaguers than we're maybe ready for.
Speaker 1: So I'd start to speculate what if Flerty was involved
Speaker 1: in that. What if it was the Cardinals and it
Speaker 1: was like Flerity, Carlson Walker and then two other lower
Speaker 1: end prospects. I feel like that would look really big.
Speaker 1: Let's take the San Diego Padres, and that's why I
Speaker 1: brought them up. Mackenzie Gore was hands down had to
Speaker 1: be at the front of any deal that I still
Speaker 1: think the Padres Sneaky are like the team that is
Speaker 1: going to do this. But if Mackenzie Gore is hurting
Speaker 1: from a long term perspective, this could hurt that deal
Speaker 1: because that would have to start with Abrams and Gore.
Speaker 1: But to be the biggest haul in history has to
Speaker 1: be something beyond what we're expecting. And it makes me
Speaker 1: think a team like the Mariners, and I know this
Speaker 1: had been brought up and they wouldn't want to do it,
Speaker 1: but trading a guy like Logan Gilbert, like getting Gilbert
Speaker 1: Kelnick and Noelvie Marte. I think if we look back
Speaker 1: at that, that would look like a mass deal. That
Speaker 1: would be stupid for them to move Logan Gilbert.
Speaker 2: Something that would put Soto somewhere for the next decade,
Speaker 2: you know, assuming he signs of contract extension, and something
Speaker 2: that gives the other team four to five starting players
Speaker 2: in their lineup, you know, in on their roster. That
Speaker 2: is something that the Nationals want. And I just you
Speaker 2: can trade for four or five guys, but were the
Speaker 2: odds every single guy is gonna be in your starting
Speaker 2: lineup like three years from now? Probably just very high.
Speaker 1: I've just been I've been similar on that the biggest
Speaker 1: haul in history, it's gonna be really really fascinating. Teams
Speaker 1: like the Mets are out there, the Yankees, the Yankees
Speaker 1: have the ability to do that. I think from a
Speaker 1: name perspective that.
Speaker 2: Do you think that being said, do you think the
Speaker 2: biggest haul in MLB history? It's obviously hyperbole, but do
Speaker 2: you think that makes it easier for this trade to
Speaker 2: get done because there's gonna be so many bidders that
Speaker 2: Washington is definitely going to take a deal or does
Speaker 2: it make it harder because who is actually going to
Speaker 2: pony up enough?
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be easier. I think teams ponying up.
Speaker 1: I think all that's happening is you're gonna have I means,
Speaker 1: as the report has been, they're not negotiating, they're just
Speaker 1: taking offers and they're gonna take the absolute best one
Speaker 1: that comes out. And I think teams are they're dropping
Speaker 1: the bank. But there are a couple teams that seem
Speaker 1: to not. You know, if the Yankees are not going
Speaker 1: to give up Volpi, you're not going to give up
Speaker 1: Volpi and Domingos. That might be the thing but it's
Speaker 1: got to be names. That's the more I've thought about
Speaker 1: it is it might not even be the size of
Speaker 1: a trade. It might be the pure names that we
Speaker 1: throw out there. But see, like Mayor, you just put O'Neill, Carlson, Libertor,
Speaker 1: Ivan Herrera. I'd even include Jordan Walker. I posted something
Speaker 1: like that a week and a half ago, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't like well received that that was a big trade.
Speaker 1: Does that look here's my question, does that look O'Neil, Carlson,
Speaker 1: Libertor Herrera and Walker like the biggest haul in the
Speaker 1: history of MLB trades? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I mean that four starters at least. I don't know
Speaker 2: how far away is Ivan Herrera. I don't know much
Speaker 2: about him, but.
Speaker 1: No, he's a good catch. I mean those are like like,
Speaker 1: you've got three major leaguers, you've got a good catching prospect,
Speaker 1: and Jordan Walker is the top five overall prospect in baseball.
Speaker 1: It's a great haul, But.
Speaker 2: Does it look like the biggest?
Speaker 1: We don't have to keep going on it, but it
Speaker 1: just keep thinking about that as the trade rumors go on.
Speaker 1: This was a fascinating thing. I wish I could put
Speaker 1: the video up on I can't I just wanted to
Speaker 1: share it. Yesterday caught if I they shared this POGs
Speaker 1: Juan Soto hit a ball seven feet in front of him.
Speaker 1: It ended up as a three hundred and thirty foot
Speaker 1: triple seven feet A grounder ball, just a grounder. You
Speaker 1: can click on the link if you want. I think
Speaker 1: I put the tweet in there if you want to
Speaker 1: take a.
Speaker 2: Look at it and just beat it into the ground.
Speaker 1: Beat it into the ground, went all the way to
Speaker 1: the wall, had a three hundred and thirty foot triple.
Speaker 1: I went and looked over on Baseball's Savant to see, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was like a hundred ninety three
Speaker 1: miles an hour. That's just it's wild. Just go look
Speaker 1: at the video. It looks like most innocuous play in
Speaker 1: baseball you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It's got to look like one of those glitches from
Speaker 2: MLB the show.
Speaker 1: Totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It looks like you hit it far and he's
Speaker 2: like admiring it, and then it's like rolling towards the
Speaker 2: second base and you're like, what the hell just happened?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: Ah? This is funny.
Speaker 1: Mayor three thirty is actually the upper deck in Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: That's very funny, all right, burning through here this day
Speaker 1: in baseball nineteen forty eight, Babe Ruth made his last
Speaker 1: public appearance Bogs at the New York premiere of the
Speaker 1: film The Babe Ruth Story, and he died three weeks later.
Speaker 1: I wanted to share that because you know, you're a
Speaker 1: big Baby.
Speaker 2: Ruth guy, your big Yeah. Yeah, thanks for sharing this
Speaker 2: weird history here.
Speaker 1: Do you think baby to get the biggest haul in
Speaker 1: history if he was a current player right now?
Speaker 2: Well, not only did he get a haul, but he
Speaker 2: also put a curse on a team for over one
Speaker 2: hundred years. So worst trade in MLB history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be true. Let's go through some stat heroes. Meryl.
Speaker 1: We talked about eight striking out seven only give out
Speaker 1: three hits. Kyle Freelan seven innings pitch seven strikeouts, only
Speaker 1: giving up four hits. Aaron Ashby seven, nine strikeouts, a
Speaker 1: couple earned runs. Aaron Ashby been money in a Zach ranking. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean we don't care about the lost. Wins and
Speaker 1: losses don't matter, right box, Remember, I mean those don't.
Speaker 2: Matter, they don't. It's just weird to see in a loss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach Grank probably going to be his best performance
Speaker 1: of the year, hopefully his last five innings, three hits,
Speaker 1: five strikeouts. Nickolodolo, You know, I mean, I don't like granky.
Speaker 1: Six innings for Nick Loodolo, nine strikeouts, did not give
Speaker 1: up any earned runs. Pretty solid performance from Lodolo. His
Speaker 1: k PROP I think was five and a half yesterday,
Speaker 1: maybe six, but it doesn't matter. He obviously hit over
Speaker 1: that over on the hitters. Imer Candelario two homers, went
Speaker 1: three for four with three RB eyes. We talked about
Speaker 1: Jonathan India going three for four with the grand Slam.
Speaker 1: Ty Frantz perfect three for three with a homer and
Speaker 1: rb I and two runs. Bryson Stott. Did you see
Speaker 1: that homer? Bryson Stott? Five rbiys just absolutely crushed it.
Speaker 1: Just gave me vibes back of the Arizona Fall League.
Speaker 1: Bogs just absolutely turned on it. Up to seven homers. Now,
Speaker 1: little Sneaky Sneaky not gonna be right. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know he doesn't. He doesn't throw ninety eight to the
Speaker 1: first basement, so he can.
Speaker 2: How do we talk about Stott and you find a
Speaker 2: way to throw shadeed Oneo Cruz. I didn't sit on
Speaker 2: the bomb the other day. By the way, did anyone
Speaker 2: let him know? I'm sure you guys let him know. Right.
Speaker 1: So now it's tough. He's in a weird spot here
Speaker 1: for everybody because every time he hits a bomb, I
Speaker 1: would think people want to hit me up. But then
Speaker 1: it's like I could just scoreboard his batting average too,
Speaker 1: so it's like he's fine. He's totally playing fine. Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year, I don't know, but just pointing that out.
Speaker 1: Some others. Tony Kemp homer and three RBI, Jeremy Panea
Speaker 1: had a bomb with two runs, sky Bolt little Combo
Speaker 1: meal homer, stolen base, Eric Cossa the homer, Josh Rojas
Speaker 1: one RBI with three stolen bases.
Speaker 2: Bob did Joey bart cannot hold guys on it is?
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: You see that pop up too, is right behind the
Speaker 1: plate and he just absolutely dropped it if Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. As a catcher, he's a great hitter, That's what
Speaker 2: Bob Brentley would say. As a catcher, he's a great hitter.
Speaker 1: Chess McCormick also had a homer, a couple of Staton Zero's.
Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers six earned runs and three and two thirds
Speaker 1: of an inning, give up seven hits. Send him awful.
Speaker 2: What is happening with this guys? Awful? Awful dude.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why the Brandon Drury was such a
Speaker 1: play yesterday. Two total bases. Uh, he crushed it, hit
Speaker 1: a bomb, Sean and I ah though awful nine runs,
Speaker 1: he gave up only four earned eight hits and three
Speaker 1: and a third of an inning, four strikeouts on the
Speaker 1: hitter side, a couple of big duds. Dylan Moore OH
Speaker 1: for four only Golden so prayer of the night with
Speaker 1: four strikeouts, Mokie Bets was OH for five with two strikeouts,
Speaker 1: and Marcus Simeon had an OH for five day. The
Speaker 1: OH for four two strikeout club went to Hazus Aguilar,
Speaker 1: Charlie Blackman, Reye Hoskins, Niki Lopez, Manny Machado, Matt Olsen,
Speaker 1: and Dansby Swanson. Mister Bogman, so some big old duddy performances. Uh, Bogman,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have been taking part in
Speaker 1: the home run leader board as of I'm too far back,
Speaker 1: too far back then, too far back. I'm not here
Speaker 1: every day, you know, I know, well you can put
Speaker 1: it on there. I just want to point out it
Speaker 1: looks like the leaderboard has relatively stayed unphased here. We
Speaker 1: had three we called three homers correctly yesterday. That was it,
Speaker 1: so it was a brutal home run call day. So
Speaker 1: no major changes whatsoever if anybody is looking at it.
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Speaker 1: like I did yesterday, and I have got a couple
Speaker 1: for you bogs up on the list. This is pure lockdown.
Speaker 1: Always bet at Shaane McClanahan. Except the numbers already moved
Speaker 1: up on some places, so FanDuel currently has it at
Speaker 1: six six and a half. At least early morning it
Speaker 1: was minus one thirty. I absolutely love that bet, but
Speaker 1: it's up to seven and a half on DraftKings, So
Speaker 1: just pointing that out, Seae McClanahan, that's an appe money.
Speaker 1: Also Spencer Streider at six and a half on FanDuel.
Speaker 1: That is plus money he's going up against Philly. Those
Speaker 1: two I would love to even parlay on a little
Speaker 1: small amount of if I'm looking for some funzies. The
Speaker 1: other two are the early game Wilson Contreras. I've got
Speaker 1: on total bases up against Bryce Wilson and he's going
Speaker 1: to be hitting two. Give me that all day. I
Speaker 1: think he's got three straight games with extra base hits,
Speaker 1: three straight games with doubles, and it is plus one
Speaker 1: ten on the over. And then Keegan Thompson strikeouts four
Speaker 1: and a half. He has struck out the Pirates I
Speaker 1: think seven or more in his last two appearances up
Speaker 1: against him. So those are four of my bets. Do
Speaker 1: you have when you love?
Speaker 2: I do actually Luis Garcia. I don't think it's on
Speaker 2: the list here, but Luis Garcia's k prop is five
Speaker 2: and a half. A's are currently two for twenty seven
Speaker 2: against him, and he's been over five six keys or
Speaker 2: more in his last four starts as well. So give me.
Speaker 2: Let's rock the baby with Luis Garcia.
Speaker 1: Let's do that one rocket de baby, rocket de baby.
Speaker 1: Over on the DFS side, don't have a lot for
Speaker 1: you A couple of stacks. If I was playing around
Speaker 1: San Diego, Seattle, Cleveland, those will probably be my place
Speaker 1: that I'm jumping in on stacks. Box. You got a
Speaker 1: little bit of BVP though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got of course, Luis Garcia, the one
Speaker 2: I just said in terms of looking for pictures for hitters,
Speaker 2: Ronald Acunia eleven for twenty nine three serventy nine, three
Speaker 2: bombs versus Nola Yulie eleven for thirty three sixty seven
Speaker 2: average against Montos Lindor five for nine with a bomb
Speaker 2: versus Montgomery Rickerson five for eleven with a bomb, versus
Speaker 2: Barrios five for fourteen with a bomb for Cedric Mullins
Speaker 2: versus McClanahan and Profar four for nine with two bombs
Speaker 2: versus Taiwan Walker in his career.
Speaker 1: So a little bit of PvP, yeah, a little bit
Speaker 1: of action, all right. So let's get to it. Home run,
Speaker 1: Calls of the night. What do you got for today?
Speaker 1: Get back on the board, Bog and start a streak.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well then I'll just take Judge. So
Speaker 2: how about Judge.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna go in Judge. That's an easy way.
Speaker 1: I think Joe is like in like forever gonna be
Speaker 1: having Austin Riley. He has not changed off of Austin
Speaker 1: Riley for the last I don't even know if if
Speaker 1: Austin Riley's at a homer in the last like ten days,
Speaker 1: I think he actually might be cursing him. If you're
Speaker 1: a Braves fan, you might want to scream at Joe
Speaker 1: to make him stop picking him. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: my total bas call on Wilson Contreras. I just like
Speaker 1: the matchup. He's got a career homer off of Wilson,
Speaker 1: He's hitting two, so I'm gonna get a few more chances.
Speaker 2: Give me.
Speaker 1: Contrell's on the early run, and Mike Mayer is going
Speaker 1: with Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Very very nice, laid judge. Mine's
Speaker 1: a little bit further off. Friends, That is it? Bugman?
Speaker 1: You did well like that Fantasy Pros hat there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Looking style, yeah baby, look Yeah. What's your net? Do
Speaker 1: you have something coming up on Fantasy Pros? You and
Speaker 1: Pat doing a football podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pat and I are going to be looking at
Speaker 2: the big storylines that impact dynasty for fantasy football. So
Speaker 2: that is what we got coming up. Of course, you
Speaker 2: and I will be doing live stuff about thirty minutes
Speaker 2: from now over on ITL as well and all the good.
Speaker 2: Just follow me at Bogman Sports and you can find
Speaker 2: all the stuff that I do there on a regular base.
Speaker 1: Boom perfect stuff you have, Bagman. I'll be over on
Speaker 1: our twitch Twitch dot tv slash in this league in
Speaker 1: about thirty minutes doing our fantasy predictors, so people can
Speaker 1: come and hang out with us. But that is it.
Speaker 2: That is all that we have.
Speaker 1: Friends. Joe will be back tomorrow. It's me and Joe,
Speaker 1: probably talking WrestleMania or wrestling or wrest Probably not WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's until April. But we'll be hearing
Speaker 1: all about the Monday Night Raw in New York and
Speaker 1: how Triple H has taken over, so expect that and
Speaker 1: a whole bunch more or Bogman. I'm Welsh. It's leading off.
Speaker 1: I love you guys, have a great day. Talk to
Speaker 1: you again tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Peace.
Speaker 1: Say you