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Speaker 2: The gas? Not no bird, no tar day No. Actually, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's not that's not bad. That's not bad. How you

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Speaker 2: spelled it? Pete?

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Speaker 3: What what you said?

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Speaker 2: I know it's it's silent.

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Speaker 4: I didn't just put that in there because I secret

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Speaker 4: you don't know how to spell it, but come.

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Speaker 2: Up with the words. You know, man, are you the

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Speaker 2: guy that came up with the words boloney, colonial pneumonia?

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Speaker 3: Card gord heyo and welcome to No Dunks, a basketball

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Speaker 3: podcast on the Athletic Podcast Network. I'm your host today

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Speaker 3: Trey Herbie and joining me here in the Classic Factory,

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Speaker 3: It's Test Melis.

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Speaker 1: Basketball lovers. You better be basketball lovers because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of basketball talking about.

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Speaker 3: This is for you, a whole lot of basketball to

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Speaker 3: talk about it and helping us make it happen. It's

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Speaker 3: the man make can the magic happen? Ashua kid Hi?

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Speaker 1: Y'all doing all right?

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Speaker 3: Asked? But we're excited because joining us live today from

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Speaker 3: Perry Says doing podcast there magnify boor skeetsoby.

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Speaker 4: Dosmellas liton how's going skis?

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Speaker 3: First things first, is that Betty boop behind you.

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Speaker 4: It is, though, that is a really weird like pillow.

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Speaker 4: I guess dull pillow that came with this room. Can

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Speaker 4: I give you a quick tour of my hotel room

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Speaker 4: here in Paris? Because yeah, yeah, guys, it's like it's

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Speaker 4: like I'm living on a cruise ship. Okay, there's the bed, Okay,

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Speaker 4: and then I'm gonna turn around. There's the weird pillow,

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Speaker 4: and there's that's it. That's right there with the cool lights.

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Speaker 2: Is my shower? This is it? Guys? Here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you wall, the wall carpeting. I think you have

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Speaker 1: It looks like skates show pity.

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Speaker 4: Now you may notice I can change the color of

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Speaker 4: the crapper and the shower, so that part's fun.

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Speaker 2: Green meats well.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I was going to ask you guys, like,

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Speaker 4: what color would you prefer to pooh in?

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Speaker 2: You know, are you a red poo? Poo poo?

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Speaker 1: Blue poo?

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Speaker 2: Are you green poo? I don't think I want to

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Speaker 3: Red would be my main concern.

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Speaker 3: Check out blue poo. I think that was a sponsor

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Speaker 3: for us once upon a time, right, blue poop from

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Speaker 3: a code no dumps, but skeets, I didn't actually know

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Speaker 3: thank you. What's going on with this yahn mahe and me?

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Speaker 3: Stuff I'm seeing on our social media?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so uh JB a fan of the show. He's

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Speaker 4: been listening for a long time. He works with Hennessy,

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Speaker 4: who's like a partner of the NBA. They were doing

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Speaker 4: some pickup run last night and he invited me out

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Speaker 4: and so I showed up, not really knowing what to expect.

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Speaker 4: It was going to be in the arena where they're

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Speaker 4: playing you know, game one of this Paris series here,

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Speaker 4: four fowls in a very low key pickup game. Now, okay,

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Speaker 4: I think I deserved one of them. But man, I

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Speaker 4: I have this weird now signed photo of jan Mihemi

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he was there. That's his story.

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Speaker 3: He was a pacer once upon a time.

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Speaker 4: He was a Spur and he was a pacer and

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Speaker 5: No one could you know, he it lose last night,

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Speaker 3: What, Yeah, he could lose. I saw I looked like

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Speaker 3: both teams were wearing Jon Maheen met Jerseys, Spurs versus Pacers.

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Speaker 4: him if he's wearing skims. Yes, j Skeats from the

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Speaker 4: Athletic are you wearing skims right now? But anyway, I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Wemby Fever for sure. I you know, talk

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Speaker 4: The guy was talking to last night was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then it converts to a Spurs home game on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so today concession stands you can get corn

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Speaker 5: But it's really it's cool that it's like in the

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Speaker 3: Very very cool. Should be an exciting game. I don't

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Speaker 4: It is weird to fire up your NBA app and

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Speaker 5: You have no shortage of topics. You should just let

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Speaker 3: Green room, all right, the green machine. Thank you, thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us. We'll hear from me a little bit

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Speaker 5: Bat Come on, come on here, guys, come on, keep.

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Speaker 3: Him going, man, keep him going. Thanks for joining us, Skates.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later. But he's right busy night

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Speaker 3: my left, I'm gonna tell you some time topics. They're

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Speaker 3: Shay's first fifty point game of his career. Meanwhile, Cad

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Speaker 3: a win over the Hawks, which moved the Pistons into

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Speaker 1: So tastic, incredible.

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Speaker 3: What's more impressive, SGA's fifty four or the Pistons being

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Pistons in six I can't believe

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Speaker 1: I'm going away from Shay, Gilgess Alexander and that magic.

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Speaker 1: Trey only had thirteen points. Other things that you don't

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Jalen Johnson. I would think if Jalen Johnson

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Speaker 1: Johnson would dunk on Isaiah Stewart. But oh no, Isaiah

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Speaker 1: a great play where Jalen Johnson was on our runway

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Speaker 1: his career, But jam Vickersoff said, you go to the

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Speaker 1: is playing extremely hard. He blocked Jalen Johnson twice. Listen

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Speaker 1: to his line. Isaiah Stewart had two points, twelve rebounds,

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Speaker 1: Asar Thompson was awesome. He had three steals himself and

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Speaker 1: a block himself. I know Kate had an incredible night.

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Speaker 1: Leak Beasley gave the too small to Tray Young after

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Speaker 1: hitting a shot over a tree. It is hilarious. Is

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Speaker 1: smaller than him? True, and it's funny. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: Poure my hand down man down scenario.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was hilarious. I think he decided

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Speaker 1: Wow, the Pacers are playing incredible ball, and the Magic

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Speaker 3: you mention bog Don Bogdanovich. He's on a terrible run

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Speaker 3: middle of December, everybody's picking the Hawks as one. They

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Speaker 3: We don't know what's going to happen, but the Hawks

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Speaker 3: much from Bogdanovich. She's definitely been superseded by DeAndre Hunter there.

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Speaker 1: Bog might be Bogda might be injured. It's the talk

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Speaker 3: Sha fifty four points, seventeen of thirty five from the field,

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Speaker 3: this is just an awesome MVP race we got going

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Speaker 3: Jazz aren't a good defensive team. I felt bad for

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Speaker 3: whether Hippie Kessler or marking In or Philipowski, and those

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Speaker 3: He would dribble a couple of times, he would stop

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Speaker 3: easy mid range jumper. He hit seven mid rangers in

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it makes me think he's the new Paul Pierce,

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Speaker 1: But comparison, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Telling you, Paul Pierce and Shake yojis Alexander. Their games

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Speaker 3: watching Jokic, What do you think about Shaye's knight?

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Speaker 1: Shane needs to be pushed more by the NBA. It's time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's happening. But this guy who was

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the Strett Boston media mafia kept

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Speaker 1: Sure, yes, yes, okay See is a much smaller market

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Speaker 1: he is just the perfect complimentary guy to Kawhi and Harden.

431
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Speaker 1: So it's hard to say which one was more surprised,

432
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: because there's missing guys. Ugly game, Yeah.

433
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: More surprising, though, I think it's gotta be the Rockets

434
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: winning that one, just because I mean, the three point

435
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: foulow by Tarry Easton was pretty the fact that it

436
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: got called for a flagrant because he definitely landed under Garland,

437
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: that was the right call. Landing or a reckless close

438
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: out they call it. That's weird to see in the

439
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: last couple of seconds here. But then yeah, Darius Garland,

440
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: who was having a good fourth quarter, like he had

441
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 3: made some big shots at this one. I think he

442
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: was three for five in the quarter, hit some threes,

443
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: like you said, ninety percent shooter missed the first two

444
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: as well. They still had a look at it for

445
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell in the corner, but Aman Thompson was all

446
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 3: over him. Tough shot. Nice win for the Rockets, and

447
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty impressive because the Cavs definitely

448
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: had the momentum. Yeah, in the fourth quarter, they turned

449
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: around a double digit lead just like that, They went

450
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: on a nineteen to zero run. They were in zone

451
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: and it looked like Houston had no idea how to

452
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: get any shots. Dean Wade hit that corner.

453
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Speaker 1: Three.

454
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: They're forcing all these turnovers and then Fred Van Vliet

455
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: back to back jacks. He also hit a free throw,

456
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: a seven to zero run all by himself. Like you're saying,

457
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: it's not always the smoothest offense for the Houston Rockets,

458
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 3: especially during clutch time, and the zone was definitely freaking

459
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: them out. But they screw through and they may have

460
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: gotten a little bit lucky. Would you think of that

461
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 3: foul that was called on Jared Allen on the rebound?

462
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: Is what that sent Shannggun to the line to shoot

463
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: free throws ultimately ended up being the couple of points that.

464
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Speaker 1: Got them the win. Yeah, shngng Gun, who's having his

465
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: worst free throw season of his career. But he was

466
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: great in that performance. Yeah, when I looked at that one,

467
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: I think he can go either way. I was totally

468
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: fine with it being called the other one where Tary

469
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: Easton was an offense for defense substitution and then landed

470
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: underneath Darius Carland, a far more prominent clear foul rather

471
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: than the Jared Allen It was good either way. I

472
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Speaker 1: don't know, are you okay with that, Jared Allen call?

473
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I don't think they probably

474
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Speaker 3: called it if it's a playoff game. It was just

475
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: guys getting mixed up underneath, so I guess they viewed

476
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: it as well, and it still stood as a foul,

477
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Speaker 3: even though I think the Cavs like won their first

478
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 3: challenge on a Mitchell strip and then lost or that

479
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: one was upheld, but I mean they were mixing it up.

480
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the playoffs there, and you mentioned how

482
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Speaker 1: the Rockets were able to hold off or hold off

483
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: and Van Voot was able to do his thame because

484
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: it looked like the Cavs were going to take this thing.

485
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: I had, you know, maybe I'm flashing ahead, but I

486
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: saw the Cavs go on that nineteen oh run and

487
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I said, whoa, this is what a playoff team needs

488
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: to be able to do. It's a little Warriors like

489
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: And then you see the Rockets be able to fight

490
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: back and you say, wow, this is what a playoff

491
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: team needs to be able to do. And the Rockets

492
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: aren't getting a lot of credit even though they're second

493
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: in the freaking Western Conference until they actually are able

494
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: to do it in the playoffs. So the West is

495
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: going to be so fun. As we kind of say

496
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: every year, I know, I say it as months beforehand.

497
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: It just looks like these two teams are prominent and

498
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what the Rockets

499
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: do with two weeks here before the trade deadline. Are

500
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Speaker 1: going to try and you know, go go, go, go

501
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: for it. Is there somebody that they can add, But

502
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: either way, I'm looking forward to see what this team

503
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: can do in the playoffs because it does feel like

504
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: being able to hold off that win was the crazier

505
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: one because if they don't get enough credit.

506
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the last couple of weeks of the

507
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: regular season, when we get into April, is going to

508
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 3: be some straight up shenanigans going on because teams are

509
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: going to be so close in the standings and they're

510
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: going to have their eyes on which teams they want

511
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: to play, So there's gonna be a lot of schedule

512
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: rests and things like that. I've been trying to game

513
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: the system, figure out where to go. It's gonna get weird.

514
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: You're totally right. The Celtics they just couldn't stay out

515
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: of the left corner for whatever reason on their last

516
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: two possessions in regulation up to with fifteen seconds left

517
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: this Jalen Brown gets trapped in the corner. He tries

518
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: to kick it out, steal by Derek Jones Junior coast

519
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: to coast for the layup. Then their last possession in overtime,

520
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum gets trapped in the exact same spot. He

521
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: kicks it out and Derek Jones Junior blocks Derek White. Sorry,

522
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: that actually sent it into overtime. But then yeah, the

523
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: Clip or the Celtics sorry, had a seven point lead

524
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 3: with a minute and a half left in overtime and

525
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: the Clips started hitting threes getting turnovers again. But somehow

526
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: the Celtics pulled this one out. I think they were

527
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: given the game ball to Jaden Springer in his first

528
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: first three pointer of the season with three minutes left,

529
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: put the Celtics up four. Hit his second three pointer

530
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: of the season in overtime with the Celtics up five

531
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Speaker 3: with thirty four seconds. He had a lot of great

532
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: energy activity on the defensive end as well.

533
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jaden Springer, I think we can get Esh to

534
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: chime in here. Did you expect Jaden Springer to have

535
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: his first two threes of the season? And what you

536
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: just mentioned about the steals, I think that was the

537
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: big thing. Third quarter. He comes on, I think it

538
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: was four minutes left in that third quarter and change

539
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: the game defensively. Three steals in those four minutes. It's

540
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: pretty crazy.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know who Jayden

542
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Springer is a Celtics fan. I've never even never seen

543
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: him before.

544
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Speaker 1: I don't think I seen him on two k Yeah. So, yeah,

545
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: his first threes of the season and he was acquired

546
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 1: out a trade deadline just to have another guy on

547
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: the bench and he can come through. This is sort

548
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: of what Jalen Brown was saying before the season. We're

549
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: going to have these games in the middle of the season.

550
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: Saw was going to get his thing. He's gonna go off.

551
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Peyton Pitcher is going to go off. He didn't say

552
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: Jade Springer. I guess he was surprised too that this happened.

553
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably nobody saw that one coming. But yeah,

554
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: he had an awesome game, and yeah you mentioned it.

555
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: Everybody resting for the Clippers. I think they got four

556
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: games at five nights, so they sat a whole bunch

557
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: of their starters. My last question about this game was

558
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: what did you think of the Clippers wood grain court?

559
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh? Great, call, I liked it.

560
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: It was cool.

561
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who would have said that about the Clippers

562
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: that anything's cool?

563
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, wood grain court, it was like a different grain

564
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: for the lane versus the outside parts. Yeah, and some

565
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: cool floral thing at half court as well. I thought

566
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 3: they looked great, especially with that was like it. They

567
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: almost got the robinz egg blue jerseys as well.

568
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: Going on, Oh yeah, they look good. Yeah, they're fantastic jerseys.

569
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Speaker 1: I had to look at that floor and examine it

570
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: and try to understand what the heck they're doing. But yes,

571
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: it's a different gray and a lot of different woods

572
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: out there.

573
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Speaker 3: Woo's good. A couple more games. The Timberwolves have played

574
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: the most clutch games in the league this season, had

575
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: another one last night, outlasting the Mavericks for a win

576
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: in and Now West. The Kings came back from seventeen

577
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: down at halftime to beat the Warriors past What was

578
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: the better win, Timberwolves.

579
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: With the Kings?

580
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: What you got?

581
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: Wow? I'm gonna go with the Timberwolves because I did

582
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: not expect what happened in the fourth quarter to happen.

583
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: They've got Devincenzo out, so they're playing basically seven and

584
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: a half guys. Dealingham just playing some minutes here as

585
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: he's taken the role of de Vincenzo. But to see

586
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter where Anthony Edwards had a mirror three points.

587
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: But to see all those other guys what I thought

588
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: was their best game of the season. Jaden McDaniels was

589
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: just damn good. Ten fourth quarter points. He did. He

590
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: did things that you expect Jade McDill McDaniels to do,

591
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: four steals and three blocks, but the aggressiveness, the drives

592
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: to equal twenty seven points. I thought that was his

593
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: best game. I thought this was Mike Conley's best game. Yeah,

594
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: he was coming through he's inserted into the starting lineup

595
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: now with Devincenzo out and definitely with the big toe injury.

596
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Eighteen points, eight assists, and Rudy Gobert didn't score a ton,

597
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: but I thought the effort on the defensive end was

598
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: very important. It looked like his best game for me.

599
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Nazried obviously chipping in the fourth quarter. Julius Randall doing

600
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: good things even though not a good stat line, but

601
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: on the drive and the steal in that fourth quarter.

602
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: So it's all being put together like it's a lane

603
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: with different wood grains, like this is a the puzzle

604
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: is happening there. You get to the fourth quarter every

605
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: single time and they just can't figure it out. But

606
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: I think they are all on the same page again

607
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: without the guy they just insured into the starting lineups,

608
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: which would be an excuse if they lost. But yeah,

609
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: they put the MAVs away, even though the Maps kept fighting. Man,

610
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: they keep fighting. That team is despite their injuries. They

611
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: fight hard.

612
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: Maps kept fighting. Obviously, no Luca, though Kyrie did play.

613
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: He had a great game thirty six thirty for PJ Washington,

614
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: and it did feel a little bit like an escape

615
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: here for the timber Wolves. The way they were playing.

616
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: I thought mcdonield's, like you said, was great. His activity

617
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: was awesome. Conley was exactly what they needed. Eight assists,

618
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: zero turnovers and four threes. Just looked like the steady

619
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: guy that we saw previously for the Timberwolves, maybe before

620
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: this season, So to get that from him with a

621
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: de Vincenzo out was big. I also thought it was

622
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: pretty impressive the Timberwolves blew a double digit lead in

623
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: this one. Kyrie Irving hit that pull up three from

624
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: the logo. It looked like all of the momentum was

625
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: tilting towards Dallas. But on the next possession, Ant gets

626
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: off the ball swing swing for a McDaniel's three from

627
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: the corner. That was huge. Then Ant missus a three.

628
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: Colmly dives in for an offensive rebound. They find Randall

629
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: in the post. He dishes it to Ant for a layup.

630
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: So they're getting good contributions from their role players, but

631
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: basically only seven guys played from Minnesota in this one.

632
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: I think Dillingham got like eight minutes ye something like that,

633
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: and Minnesota did have a nine point lead with two

634
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: and a half minutes left. They gave up four offensive

635
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: rebounds and two three pointers in the last two and

636
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: a half minutes. It was mostly with Randall as the

637
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: only big. No nas read out there, no go bear

638
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: out there. They got to win the twenty nine clutch games.

639
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 3: Minnesota is now thirteen and sixteen. I didn't think it

640
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: was the smoothest execution, but they got enough plays from everybody,

641
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: so a nice win. As four.

642
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a four point when Kyrie hit

643
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: that one three that didn't really matter with the last second.

644
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why I am making an

645
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: excuse for tim Wolves and making more prominent, but yeah,

646
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Speaker 1: Kyrie was just phenomenal. Really, he was just fire in

647
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a way.

648
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: As for the Warriors and the Kings, the Warriors had

649
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: a twelve point lead with three minutes left in the

650
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: third quarter of this one quarter ended an eighteen to

651
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: six run for Sacramento. It was a lot of Demata

652
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: Rose and he had thirty two in the game, nineteen

653
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: in the third quarter, and the Kings forced eight turnovers

654
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: off the Warriors and the third they were just selling

655
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: out on guarding Steph Curry. Curry finished with fourteen points

656
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: on just six of eleven shooting. He was one for

657
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: five with three turnovers in the second half. The Warriors

658
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: had a four point lead with four minutes left in

659
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: this game. They didn't score until there was forty seconds left.

660
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: That included three missed lamps and that's kind of been

661
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: a hallmark of the Warriors. Teams just do everything they

662
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: can to get the ball out of Steph Curry's hands

663
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: and then they say, okay, we'll take our chances with

664
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: you trying to finish inside. And the Warriors have been

665
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: the worst uh layup finishing team this season and they

666
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: never get to the free throw line as well. So

667
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: I think definitely a disappointing win or a disappointing loss

668
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: for the Warriors because they just did not play very

669
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Speaker 3: well in the second half at all. Meanwhile, Sacramento ten

670
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: and two with Doug Christy as their coach. Twenty six points,

671
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: eighteen rebounds for Demanta Sabonis in this one. He's making

672
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: an All Star case, I think, especially if they're going

673
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: to be stacking up wins here. So nice win for

674
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: the Kings getting performances from DeRozan and Demontes.

675
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Demanta Sabonis continues to just put up numbers. They're

676
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: now seventh in the Western Conference, so they are moving up.

677
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned that tight number of teams in the Eastern Conference.

678
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: It's extremely tight in the West two so tight down there.

679
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: It's going to be a teams just jumping over each

680
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: other in the play in tournament, and the Sacramento Kings

681
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: are going to be one of them. I can't help

682
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: but see Doug Christi and think defense because of the

683
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: way he played for my Toronto Raptors freaking twenty years ago.

684
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know what he said to his team

685
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: at half, but they're down seventeen and they come out

686
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, they got into the zone and defense.

687
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Doug convinced his team to play ridiculously hard. They were

688
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: playing so hard they forced the Warriors to have eight turnovers.

689
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: Was over and over and over again, and that was

690
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: a big difference in that third quarter. They got thirteen

691
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: points off those turnovers, and that's why they were able

692
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: to go into the fourth tied up, along with de

693
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Rozan's perfect third quarter both from the floor and the

694
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: free throw line. And it was at home. It's in Sacramento,

695
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: but it obviously gets more and more abysmal each and

696
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: every game this Golden State Warriors play. As they now

697
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: sit outside of the play in tournament. We got two

698
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: weeks till the trade deadline. For them, it ain't gonna

699
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: be pretty, especially with all their injuries. That's the important

700
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: part with them. We're not seeing their entire team. But

701
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I just don't see them making a major deal here

702
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: to be able to deal with all these Western Conference teams.

703
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so fricking tough, and they're in

704
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a tough position to make it.

705
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: They are definitely in a tough position to make it.

706
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: And some tough news coming out of Dallas. Derek Lively

707
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: expected to miss two to three months after he suffered

708
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: a stress fracture in his right ankle. Big loss for

709
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: the Mavericks, though they actually look pretty decent inside. I

710
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: think they outscored Minnesota and points in the paint sixty

711
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: six to fifty eight, something ridiculous like that against a

712
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: big team. But what do you think Dallas needs to

713
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: do here? Like you said, we got two weeks to

714
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: the trade deadline. As of today, Daniel Gafford was in

715
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: trade rumors. I assume he's out of trade rumors now,

716
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: but Derek Lively is done. But what do you think

717
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: Dallas's move should be here.

718
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they can make one. Really, I don't

719
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: think they have much to offer. They probably hope that

720
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: they're getting some great contributions from Omax, Olivia, Maxwam's prosper

721
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: as he participated yesterday, because if Gafford isn't around, Kliba

722
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: is their only other center. With Dwight Powell injured and

723
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Kleiba you can't play him too many minutes, so they

724
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: just got to hope. Obviously, if Luca comes back, that

725
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: helps huge. But I think this team at best is

726
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: a play in tournament team, and MAVs fans may say, well,

727
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: that's perfect. It's perfect that there's ten spots out there.

728
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: We won three series on the road last year and

729
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: went to the NBA Finals. We can do it. But

730
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty different with Derek Lively, who's going

731
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: to be out probably until the end of the regular season.

732
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: Although their announcement, their team announcement was in four weeks,

733
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: we're going to reevaluate and the report the other reports

734
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: are two to three months, so it's probably going to

735
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: be into April and foot injuries. Big guys, He's got

736
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: to get into some sort of flow. Even though he

737
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing with this team. It's all Luca

738
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: and Kyrie and you do your thing, and he's so

739
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: good at it. I still think that at best, you're

740
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: playing team this team that's three to ten over their

741
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: last thirteen games, But they do keep fighting, and I'll

742
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: continue to say that. But the top of the West

743
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: is even tougher than last year. Yeah, they won three

744
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: times on the road, but ok see who they beat

745
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs in the second round is better.

746
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just I'm just trying to look

747
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: forward with this team because it looks like the Mavericks

748
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: could be an NBA Finals team if they're all healthy.

749
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: But now with Luca coming back late here in February

750
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: ish to start February hopefully, and then this injury to

751
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Derek Lively, with all these teams and the tough schedule

752
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: they have, I think I think it's going to be

753
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: a very different start of the playoffs for this team.

754
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could definitely be coming via the play in tournament,

755
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: but I do feel like Dallas is built for the playoffs.

756
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: They're not going to play a ton of guys and

757
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: they all have we're basically together last season Klay Thompson accepted,

758
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: so as long as they can get their three starters healthy.

759
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Luca's out right now. Kyrie's been battling back

760
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: problems for the last month and a half of the season,

761
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: and then Lively down right now only a game and

762
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: a half out of the sixth seed. Obviously, that's going

763
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: to be the goal for a lot of Western Conference

764
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: teams is to get in the top six, because otherwise

765
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: the play in tournament is going to be tough. And

766
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: other news. Last night, the Suns crushed the Nets day round,

767
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Sharp dunked on the wrong basket for Brooklyn tough stuff,

768
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: and the Grizzlies had a highlight fest against the Hornets,

769
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: including on Luke Canard dunk. Luke Canard got a dunk

770
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: in this game. Not really sure we're gonna put this

771
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: one no task, but the Heat are suspending Jimmy Butler

772
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: for the next two games after Jimmy missed the team's

773
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: flight to Milwaukee. Jimmy obviously suspended for seven games, came back,

774
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: played three games, then tripled down on his trade request.

775
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: What's going on here? We're gonna see Jimmy Butler play

776
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 3: again for the Miami Heat. They've got five games before

777
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: the trade deadline. After Tonight's game against the Bucks the

778
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: Jimmy suspended four, they play Saturday against Brooklyn, then five

779
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: more games before the trade deadline. Will Jimmy ever be

780
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: in Miami Heat again.

781
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I think they will put him out there just to

782
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: play him, I suppose, But no, I say that, and

783
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I take it back, and I think he will be

784
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: traded before this end of suspension. This is amazing that

785
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: we're thirty minutes into the show and we're talking about

786
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat suspending Jimmy Butler because they just suspended

787
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: him because he doesn't really want to play with the team.

788
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: I watched that Phoenix Suns beat the Brooklyn Nets yesterday.

789
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: I watched that game and I thought, oh, the Sons

790
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: are playing inspired Baul ready for Jimmy Butler to come.

791
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: At the same time, Brooklyn were missing both their cams

792
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: in Cam Johnson Camp Thomas No Ben. They weren't starting,

793
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: and they weren't playing a lot of their guys, and

794
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: so they won. No big deal. But this Jimmy Butler

795
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: thing is it's happening. The trade. The trade is happening

796
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: because I don't think you're pat Riley and say, you

797
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: know what, if we're gonna suspend this guy because he's

798
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: just not very nice to us, if there's no if

799
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: there's no possible trade out there, I just think you

800
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that if the trade wasn't imminent. But again,

801
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: pat Riley is just a badass. He's extremely hardheaded. So

802
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I guess there's a world where there isn't a trade happening,

803
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: but I don't see it happening. I think this trade

804
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: is it's gotta be gotta be. I hope they trade him.

805
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: I hope they trade him, because otherwise we're going to

806
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: get another two months of Jimmy Butler saga because he's

807
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: still gonna want to be traded in the off season

808
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: if he ends up in Miami, and it'll just be

809
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: like such passive aggressive stuff like this.

810
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: It's just it's.

811
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: Already getting weary. I'm already weary from the Jimmy Butler

812
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: trade saga. And this is a guy I usually support it,

813
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 3: even his antics and stuff like this, but uh.

814
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's so he missed a flight on purpose,

815
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: and then the heat have to let it be known

816
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: that you're just you're just not a franchise to mess

817
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: around with. I guess that's what they're they're saying. But

818
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: this is also something that it's not a headline that

819
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: NBA player misses flight. They could have just, you know,

820
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: let it swept it under the rug type of thing.

821
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: I mean, the Pelicans just suspended Zion yeah for being

822
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: late to a flight yeah, which was happening over and

823
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: over and over probably for years where he was he

824
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: was missing.

825
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is on on the Phoenix side,

826
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: it just works out perfectly for Mattishia. I'm you know,

827
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm predicting that it is going to

828
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: happen that It just sure feels that way. But it

829
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: feels like the Phoenix Suns want to pay Jimmy Butler

830
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: for a long time. It feels like the Phoenix Suns

831
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: are ready to pay Jimmy until he's forty five. I

832
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: don't know until he's forty I guess. I mean, this

833
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: guy who's going to be turning thirty six, has got

834
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: a year left on his contract that he may or

835
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: may not opt into, but they're willing to pay him.

836
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see if it'll pay off.

837
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Because this team with Jimmy as we talked about on

838
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: yesterday yesterday's show, it feels like at best a second

839
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: round team and Jimmy's only getting older. This is Katie.

840
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: They are not able to play much longer at a

841
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: good rate, and he could help a team this year

842
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs for sure, but it doesn't feel like

843
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all that good.

844
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. But we still got two weeks

845
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: and they haven't traded him yet with Jimmy still got

846
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: two weeks. Yeah, because it slop seas and we got

847
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: passes and brief and rumors from people I've never even

848
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: heard of. Pass Let's tackle them all in the up

849
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: down report. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I love slop season

850
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: and have something like a tweet that says, who's getting

851
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: involved in the Patrick Williams sweepstakes? WHOA Yeah, you'll see.

852
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: You'll see sweepstakes attached to players that you never would

853
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: have thought would have a.

854
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: Sweepstakes because they just signed them to an extension.

855
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: There's as who wants some who wants them eight points

856
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: a game, come and get it. But Shawn's is reporting

857
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 3: over at ESPN that Lebron and ad are quote growing

858
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: concerned about the Lakers' ability to make significant roster upgrades

859
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: and they want the franchise to make moves to contend

860
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: for a championship, but the co stars believing the Lakers

861
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: are potentially a piece or two away. To ask you

862
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: up or down on the Lakers getting help at the

863
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: trade deadline going for a championship.

864
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm down on it. I do not think that it happens.

865
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick is doing the right thing as

866
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: the head coach and talking about his roster as currently

867
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: constructed and will improve internally as Jared Vanderbilt comes out

868
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: and plays this weekend. He said, bad teams reject their roles.

869
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Good teams accept the roles. Great teams embrace the roles,

870
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: and we are verging as he said into that great

871
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: teams embrace the roles. And I think the only thing

872
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: that's going to happen is Jared Vanderbilt coming out and

873
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: performing for this team because he is such a good

874
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: player and like JJ Reddick, talks a great game and

875
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: does the right things that this team needs. When he

876
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: was interviewed, he said, I wanted to rebound, defend, be vocal.

877
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: That guy is a perfect switchable defender around Anthony Davis

878
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: and Lebron. The other part of that starting lineup is

879
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Reachmer. Big question why that's not working

880
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: all that Well, I say that's the starting lineup. JJ

881
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: is going to play around with it. I think Dorian

882
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Finney Smith has played extremely well for them closing games

883
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: even though he's not starting. But I say Jared Vanderbolt

884
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy. I mean when he

885
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: started last year six games, he averaged ten and a

886
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: half points on sixty six percent shooting, five boards, almost

887
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: two and a half steals. He's part of the plan.

888
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Like Pat Williams in Chicago. They just signed him to

889
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: a deal basically it was twenty twenty three. They sign

890
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: him to a four year deal. So there's two and

891
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: a half years remaining on Vanderbilt. So all that to

892
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: be said. Would they want another guard, Yeah, he'd want

893
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: another ball handler. But do they have enough to get

894
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: a ball handler? That's my question.

895
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: Maybe, really, maybe they've got two tradable first round picks.

896
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: They've got their twenty twenty nine pick and twenty thirty one.

897
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: Then they've got their two second round picks as well.

898
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: I think both Theirs and the Clippers in this twenty

899
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: twenty five draft, so you know those are probably going

900
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: to be in the forties or fifties or something like that.

901
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Apparently they are open to using these picks to go

902
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: and get somebody. But it's like, if you wanted Zach Lavine,

903
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: you could have had them at any point right in

904
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: the summer or last year's trade deadline. So maybe they're

905
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: just not interested. I do think Vanderbilt will help, but

906
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: just like Pat Williams, he can't score one way player,

907
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: and the Lakers need guys who can play on both

908
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: ends of the court. I think they needed another big guy,

909
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: so Valanciunas. You could probably get Valentiunis for a second

910
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: round pick, if we're being honest, and they should look

911
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: at like Jovan Buja has been reporting, they should look

912
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: at Lonzo Ball from the Bulls. Lonzo is still a

913
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: really good player. He's kind of got a big contract.

914
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Twenty million. Might be tough for them to match now

915
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: the d lo's not around. I guess they'd probably be

916
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: Hatchamura involved. But Lonzo handles the ball, shoots threes, and

917
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: he's a great defensive playmaker. Obviously has Lakers connections, LA

918
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: connections as well, so that's a guy that I think

919
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: that they should be interested in. Yeah, but they made

920
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: no trades last year. Rob Polinka was saying, you can't

921
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: buy a house that's not for sale. They made no

922
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: trades in twenty twenty two when they were kind of

923
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: out of it and it didn't look like it. So

924
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: the question is do the Lakers actually have a chance

925
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: to make a run here Because there's a quote from

926
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: a high ranking team official this piece that says Boston,

927
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 3: OKAC and Cleveland are who they are, that the best

928
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: three teams in the league, but this is wide open.

929
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: Do you agree? Does this feel wide open even in

930
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: the Western Conference for the LA Lakers?

931
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean to sound agree, Yes, I do feel it's

932
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: wide opens. No, No, I mean it's somewhat open. Okay,

933
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: See has never won before as the prominent team, and

934
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: then there's a fall off after that. We haven't seen

935
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves anywhere close to what they were last year.

936
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: Dallas is banged up. Denver I think is part of

937
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: that contender list. But I think you look at it

938
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: and I sale those teams. You could look at that,

939
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: look at that lineup of teams and say, yeah, we

940
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: could get there. Sure, so I do think yes as

941
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: one of those you know, second tier teams behind Okay,

942
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: so you think, yeah, we could do this, and because

943
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: okay see hasn't won yet, Yeah, yeah you can. You

944
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: can do it. But Alonzo Ball, I read y Ovambuja's

945
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: piece I heard, I listen to him on the pods,

946
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: and then you start to look at Lunzo Ball, extremely

947
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: talented guy playing under a minute restriction though, and he

948
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: would be be cool for him to go back to

949
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: La where he first started that thing and Magic said

950
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be here, We're gonna hang up your jersey.

951
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: That was cool. It would be it would be awesome

952
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: to see that again. At the same time, you mentioned

953
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: that Rob Plinka hasn't made the trades into the last

954
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: three years, and it feels like, would you be willing

955
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: if it feels like they would not be willing to say, hey, Lonzo,

956
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: you know we're going for it man, because it doesn't

957
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: feel like that his his body's not allowing him them

958
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I mean?

959
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: So you can play Gabe Vincent's Minutes and a hartbeat.

960
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: He could play Gabes Yeah he got.

961
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, no offense. He's better he's better than Gay. Yeah. Game,

962
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: But the Lakers aren't close to a championship. That's why

963
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: they're not going to trade first round picks, because they

964
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: know they're not actually close. They have won one playoff

965
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: game against the Denver Nuggets in the past two years.

966
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: The Nuggets are a little bit down this year, but

967
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: they're still the second best team probably in the Western Conference.

968
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it's wide open in the Western Conference.

969
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: I think that maybe if the Lakers get lucky, they

970
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: could make it to a conference finals, if they get

971
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: good matchups.

972
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's about it. Well, yeah, Lonzo Ball ain't

973
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: changing it anyways. As solid as he's been, he's not

974
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: taking them there. But I do think we don't know

975
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: who's making the NBA Finals from the Western Conference. I

976
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: mean I mentioned those teams. I could see Denver doing it.

977
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: You could see Okay See doing it. I don't think

978
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota is dead yet.

979
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

980
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: And then there's there's some other teams. So it's yeah,

981
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: wide open. I don't know what's wide open? Mean like

982
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: ten spots.

983
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: I think at best, the Lakers could be the fourth

984
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: best team in the conference. Like playoff wise, I would

985
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: take the Thunder the Nuggets and a healthy Maps. I

986
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: would take them over La right away. Yeah, not even

987
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: a thought really.

988
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the Maps kind of opens it up

989
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: a little bit because it doesn't seem like they're going

990
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: to be anywhere close to healthy. But yeah, I definitely

991
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: would pick those other teams, and I'd throw the Wolves

992
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: in there just because they have been their ish together,

993
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll be fun.

994
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: Sean's also reports that My Week Bulls have been getting

995
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: calls on zak Lavine and Nicola Vujevic. The Warriors particularly

996
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: interested in big Vouchie baby tas. Are you up or down?

997
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: Please be up on the Bulls trading Zach Lavine and

998
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: or Nikola Vujovich.

999
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm up on Vouch being traded. It sure seems like

1000
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Booch is the one that would be dealt, But are

1001
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: the Warriors willing to do it? It seemed like they were

1002
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when they were healthy and and

1003
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: Draymond and Kuminga were there. It felt like Vouch could

1004
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: come in and be their starting center and it would

1005
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: be very workable for them for him to be there

1006
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: and play basically first and third quarter minutes and Draymond

1007
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Green to close games at center, because that is what

1008
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: their best lineup is. It would be you know, Steph

1009
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: and Shruder at the guard spot, Kaminga and Wigans at

1010
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the forwards spot, and Draymond Green and so Vouch would

1011
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: be a nice filler. There's some faith in Trace Jackson Davis,

1012
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's preventing them from going to

1013
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: get Vouch. I think what's preventing them from going to

1014
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: get Booch is that Kamega and healthy things are falling

1015
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: up heart a little bit. And so I'm not sure

1016
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: Mike Dunlevy is willing to give up much for this

1017
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: team that doesn't seem like it's it's going anywhere right now.

1018
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Vooch is the more tradable dude.

1019
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sideways on this one because I think Booch

1020
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: will get traded. I think it will be probably to

1021
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: the Warriors. It's not going to cost much to get him, Yeah,

1022
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: salary second round picks, and he's a guy that obviously

1023
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: helps their team. He can rebound, he's shooting the three

1024
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: well this season. Steph Curry has literally never played with

1025
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: a stretch five like David West is kind of the

1026
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: closest that he's ever had, so I think that that

1027
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: makes sense. They're hilarious. To imagine Draymond Green watching Nikola

1028
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: Vucevic's defensive rotations. That will be very funny to watch.

1029
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: Levine's a little bit more uncertain. I'm seeing a lot

1030
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: of Bucks rumors with zach Lavine right now. I think

1031
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: they're realizing he's better than Bradley Beal, and he doesn't

1032
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: have a no trade clause, and he's younger, and he

1033
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 3: might actually be healthier. I don't know about that one,

1034
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: but it seems like the Bulls might be able to

1035
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: get a better return for him in the summer. And

1036
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: they got to be loving it right now. Zach Lavine

1037
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: playing well, get to have their cake and eat it too,

1038
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: because they're gonna be the tenth seed in the Eastern Conference.

1039
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: The Bulls are going to do that unless somehow the

1040
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: Sixers get healthy and start winning games, which I don't

1041
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: know if they want to. But because the Bulls are

1042
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: still so bad, they're ninth, they have the ninth worst

1043
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: overall record in the league, and they needed to finish

1044
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: in the bottom ten to keep their pick. Otherwise it

1045
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: goes to the San Antonio Spurs. It's just hard to

1046
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 3: see the teams that are below them, or I guess

1047
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: above them on Tankathon having better second halfs to the

1048
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: season than the Bulls do. So they might be able

1049
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: to keep Levine, make the play in tournament and keep

1050
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: their pick, which is like the perfect threading of the

1051
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: absolute middle in the NBA that teams love to do.

1052
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: No team loves it more than the Bulls than staying

1053
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: in the middle.

1054
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could emulate what the Dallas Mavericks did a

1055
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and just tank it baby and

1056
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: go get. They were able to get Casey Wallace out

1057
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: of that, which turned it out Derek Lively as they

1058
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: made the NBA Draft trade, So you could see the

1059
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Bulls doing that for sure. I do love the idea

1060
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: of opening the floor for staff intruder with Vos shooting threes.

1061
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: Of course it makes sense. Yeah, I just don't know

1062
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: which which team if they if they feel like they

1063
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: could do it, that's the question. If they feel like

1064
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: they could trade for him. But you're right, it doesn't

1065
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: cost a lot, because it hasn't cost it a lot

1066
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of players here in the last couple

1067
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: of months.

1068
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like Jory and Phinney Smith going for second

1069
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: round picks, Nick Richards going for second round picks. Butovich

1070
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: is probably higher in the pecking order than those guys,

1071
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: at least he's got a little bit of a pedigree.

1072
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: But still it could be an incremental improvement for the Warriors.

1073
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: I think getting Vovich like if they want to make

1074
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: a run at the championship, getting it done, but it

1075
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 3: makes them a better team, gets them a better chance

1076
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: of getting into the playoffs and locking it down. Our

1077
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: final piece of slot from Sean's the Pistons are quote

1078
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: expected to be significant players to take in salary along

1079
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 3: with an asset, or to utilize that space for an

1080
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: upgrade ahead of the deadline. So tasks are you up

1081
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: or down on the Pistons upgrading at the trade deadline?

1082
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: I gotta say him down. I don't think the Pistons

1083
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: are going for it. They just see this young core,

1084
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: all these number five draft picks, and I think Tradan Landon,

1085
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: who leads that front office, who is with David Griffin

1086
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and seeing what's happening there, probably says

1087
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: to himself, let's play it. So let's not go for

1088
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: it right here and right now. Although you can see,

1089
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, beyond their core of Kid J and Ivy

1090
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: sar Thompson, Ron Holland even though there's the younger guys,

1091
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: they do need something. There's no doubt that it would

1092
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: be it would be beneficial for them. So I'm sure

1093
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: they're calling Sean Marks and saying what about Cam Johnson

1094
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: as everybody is. Everybody's talking about Cam Johnson. Cam Johnson

1095
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: would be perfect on this team, as he would be

1096
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: perfect on basically every team. And I don't think he's

1097
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: too old like other stars would be to fit in

1098
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: with the Pistons. Timeline Cam Johnson, he's in his prime.

1099
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: Hees turning twenty nine soon. He's having a ridiculously good year.

1100
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: Nineteen points, shooting forty nine percent from the field, forty

1101
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: two percent from three and sixty six percent true shooting percent.

1102
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: That's great because he is such a high option there,

1103
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, depending on the night, he's the

1104
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: number one or number two option. But I don't think

1105
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: you push too fast if you're the Pistons. It just

1106
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: it a I don't know what Cam Johnson will get

1107
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: from other teams, but it's probably more than what the

1108
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Pistons should offer even though they have their entire cupboard

1109
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: of picks like every single season. They could take one

1110
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: of those pics sure and Tim Hardaway. Sure, I think

1111
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: that's that's acceptable. Draft or trade one of your draft

1112
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: picks plus a Tim Hardaway. I put it into sport

1113
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Tac to see if it worked. It works fine, But

1114
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: I do think Sean Marks is waiting for more than

1115
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: a pick and a decent player. The rumors are the

1116
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: he wants two draft picks and a good young player.

1117
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the Pistons should even do a good

1118
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: pick in one of their guys that they've put so

1119
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: much time into. I don't think that's the move.

1120
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see them making a move for Cam Johnson.

1121
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: He's literally the only guy that he can see making sense.

1122
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: Like you said, it will be twenty nine once they

1123
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 3: go into the playoffs. He's signed through twenty twenty seven,

1124
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: so you get to keep him around a little bit.

1125
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: But it's probably gonna cost a little bit too much

1126
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: to get Cam Johnson and they don't need to do that

1127
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: kind of move at this point. They also do oh

1128
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: a first round pick two Minnesota. It's top thirteen protected

1129
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five. Top eleven next season twenty twenty six,

1130
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: and then top nine twenty twenty seven. Right now, currently

1131
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Detroit would have the seventeenth pick, which would mean they

1132
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: would lose their draft pick to the Timberwolves, but they're

1133
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: only two wins up on the twelfth place team, which

1134
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 3: they would keep their pick. Pistons also have a ton

1135
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: of extra second round picks that they got from like

1136
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: facilitating trades for the New York Knicks, so they could

1137
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: come off their seconds. They could be another Lonzo ball

1138
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: team as well, fall handler, three point shooter. They've got

1139
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: the cap space that it could work easily. So I

1140
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: would do a smaller move using one of those extra

1141
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: second round picks, and then see what you need after,

1142
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: whether it be the play in tournament or even making

1143
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 3: the actual playoffs, see if you need anything else, because

1144
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: this has already been a win of a season for Detroit,

1145
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: and they could send themselves up for a nice little run.

1146
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 3: Because other than that Minnesota pick, which you probably wanted

1147
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: to convey right away, like get that obligation out of here,

1148
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: then you can trade picks, or you can actually use

1149
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 3: your draft picks to get somebody later in the first round.

1150
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: Maybe that works out. For Detroit, but we shall see.

1151
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: I think they'll probably stand pad except for something minor.

1152
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: The pick them payoff test, the pick them payoff.

1153
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's get to it, Boston LAC.

1154
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: Last night it was me and you had the Clippers

1155
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: plus nine and a half and they pulled it out

1156
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: in overtime. So that's a win for me and you

1157
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: a loss and for Skeets. Skets had the Clippers. Well,

1158
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: loss for Eshua unfortunately. Tell me about our pickup game today.

1159
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that lost for esh and win for Skeets makes

1160
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: this just a two game, right. I don't know how

1161
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: you feel, Ash. You're leading by two games, so you

1162
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: should feel good going here towards the end of January.

1163
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Like I said yesterday, not actually confident.

1164
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: But if I can stay right in the middle, Yeah,

1165
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: if I can just stay right in the middle, then

1166
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: everything will be fine.

1167
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm still just kind of aiming for there. Yeah,

1168
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: you got your Atlanta Hawks hat on. We have been

1169
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta very much in the middle for several years.

1170
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Always that's what's going on here. But tonight we're going

1171
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: to Paris. I decided we just should do this team.

1172
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: We should do this game Spurs visiting the Indiana Pacers

1173
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: in Paris? Why is Indiana the home team? Who knows

1174
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: they're the two and a half point favorite. Indiana is

1175
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: as the home team, So I guess when it goes

1176
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: to Saturday and the Spurs are the home team there

1177
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: two and a half point favorites, I guess for some

1178
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: weird reason. I don't know how Vegas works it, but

1179
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. I think the Pacers are looking

1180
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: feeling great. You mentioned Tyrese Haliburton's hamstring injury. That's actually

1181
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: a groin injury that he's recovered from. Everybody was worried

1182
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: about the hamstring. Yeah, being a prominent injury with him

1183
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: going back to last year, but it wasn't a hamstring.

1184
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I heard my man Jared Greenberg be the first to

1185
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: say it's a groin injury. So all good, and he

1186
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: came back and he looks great. So that's why I'm

1187
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: comfortable taking the Pacers as his skeets. But you guys

1188
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: are thinking Trey Ash, Yeah, Webby's at home. That's right,

1189
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: this is actually a home game for that guy.

1190
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: Wenby doesn't lose in Paris unless it's the team USA.

1191
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he didn't lose with the seventy two's.

1192
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean I think they had an undefeated season two

1193
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: lottery picks man, him and Bill all together. You know

1194
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 3: who's a guy I like watching play for the Pacers

1195
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: right now?

1196
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 2: Jaris Walker.

1197
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing good right now. He is really good.

1198
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. It should be entertaining though. Spurs Pacers two pm

1199
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: Eastern on NBA TV.

1200
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: J E.

1201
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: Skeets and J D Doyle Jason Doyle in attendance for

1202
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: that one, and I can't wait to hear their reports,

1203
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: and then we'll hear from them later on this week

1204
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: after they play that second game. We're back tomorrow. Got

1205
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: a new episode of The Drop with some special guests

1206
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: in town. Should be pretty fun.

1207
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that that one. I gotta talk

1208
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: to JD as well about the video he just edited

1209
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: put on the instagrams of Skeets playing ball. Yes, I

1210
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,959
Speaker 1: didn't know Number one Skeets had that French vocab. I wonder,

1211
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: I wonder how much he prepared, but he probably just

1212
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of like the term that he said,

1213
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: I just got pancaked, then he converted to I just

1214
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: got craped. Very good, very good. But JD also very good.

1215
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: He put an excellent circlem flex like the like the

1216
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: the triangle sort of hat on the on the e

1217
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: of crape. I mean, how do you do that? How

1218
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: do you do well? Espy? That impressed. Anyways, that's pretty cool,

1219
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: pretty pretty cool that it's on social media.

1220
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 3: If you are on social media, go check it out

1221
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: at No Dunk Sinc. Everywhere. Clipper Bros. You heard it

1222
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: here first, have a great time, turn up, love you guys. Awesome.

1223
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to uh our guests coming in. Gonna

1224
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: do a podcast with them, But first I'm gonna take

1225
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: a nap because I think they're at the atl Airport

1226
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: and it's taking a long time, so I'm gonna I'm

1227
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a little yawn MAHEMI first get out of here, boy,

1228
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Embrace the Day.