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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire fail? It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Monday, December second. Welcome to the month

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Speaker 2: of December. It was ushered in in the snow last

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Speaker 2: night on Sunday Night Football. The Bills roll over the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Not that interesting of a game. But we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey in a little bit. Hope everybody had a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal Thanksgiving break. Rob Gie is back in the saddle,

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Speaker 2: coming off a huge, huge couple weeks off for good news.

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Speaker 2: He'll reveal that a little later on. And my Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: was excellent. We went out to the desert, hung out

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Speaker 2: with some friends. We went to a zoo and I

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Speaker 2: got some dogs to nearly attack us. It was phenomenal,

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Speaker 2: the living desert in Palm Springs, and you know, they

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Speaker 2: had the Christmas lights up at night, and it was

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Speaker 2: kind of it's like a scene at night there and

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Speaker 2: me and you know, the kids, I'm like a kid.

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Speaker 2: I act like a kid sometimes a public we're goofing off.

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Speaker 2: We see these rabid dogs, you know, in their little exhibit,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like making noises and the dogs, three of them,

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Speaker 2: sprint over and we were all like, whoa, you know,

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Speaker 2: holy Kelly. They were like running around like they were circling,

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Speaker 2: you know. But there was a big obviously the plex

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Speaker 2: not the plexiglass, but the big glass encasement that they

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Speaker 2: were in. And it was fun.

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Speaker 2: I like a good zoo and enjoyed some turkey. We

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Speaker 2: got the Christmas trees up, got the Christmas lights, and

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Speaker 2: we're ready to rock in December. I have a super

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Speaker 2: busy couple weeks coming up, and thankfully the weekends are

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Speaker 2: consumed by football, and my gosh, we'll get to the

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Speaker 2: college football madness. This is gonna be a big, big

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Speaker 2: week in college football with the playoffs gonna get set,

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams on the brink. SEC guys are

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Speaker 2: crying already. I love it. But we got to start

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Speaker 2: with the NFL. And what I think is probably the

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Speaker 2: biggest story this Monday following Week thirteen's just an absurd

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Speaker 2: slate of games. And that's the Philadelphia Eagles. Remember when

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Speaker 2: this team headed into their bye week two and two,

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Speaker 2: when the sky was falling and Nick Sirianni was, Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's in trouble. Is Belichick going to replace him? That's

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Speaker 2: the best job.

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Speaker 3: On the market.

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Speaker 2: All these stories were emerging about how Nick Sirianni was

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Speaker 2: kind of clueless. They got spanked by Tampa. It was bad. Well, folks,

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Speaker 2: they have not lost since the bye week and in

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Speaker 2: the I think it was the most impressive victory of

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Speaker 2: the season and it not reflected in the point spread.

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Speaker 2: But the Philadelphia Eagles go into Baltimore become the first

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Speaker 2: team in what seems like eons to defeat Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: someone from the NFC, and the Eagles impressive twenty four

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Speaker 2: to nineteen win. Not only that they came from behind

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Speaker 2: to beat Baltimore. This was nine to nothing as the

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Speaker 2: Eagles off to their slow start, as they are wont

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Speaker 2: to do. Fortunately, Justin Tucker, I'm sorry, Hall of Famer

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Speaker 2: Justin Tucker, who's now washed. It's official. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: he's gonn lose his job, but the Ravens will certainly

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Speaker 2: bring in other kickers. That's gonna be a big story

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Speaker 2: this week in Baltimore. Tucker misses an extra point, misses

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Speaker 2: two field goals. It was a rough one. He's now

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Speaker 2: missed a career high eight field goals on the season.

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Speaker 2: If he makes those different game, maybe the Ravens win,

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Speaker 2: and maybe Lamar is still in discussion for the MVP.

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Speaker 2: But remember that, remember Lamar as the MVP. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: remember that warm weather September October. Lamar he's great and

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was not great. On Sunday, Ravens two for

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Speaker 2: But the big story is the Eagles have now, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, become the best team in the NFC. I

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Speaker 2: think they've surpassed the Lions. Detroit a little wonky on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: But I think the Eagles have passed the Lions for

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Speaker 2: several reasons. Number one is that defense, Folks, This kid

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Speaker 2: He is just his instincts are tremendous. The defense under

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Speaker 2: Vic Fangio totally locked up Derrick Henry, who had eighty

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Speaker 2: two yard rushing on nineteen carries. Lamar could do nothing

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Speaker 2: and this kid, Cooper Dejen. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: saw it. I thought it was one of those hits

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Speaker 2: YouTube basketball highlights, he gets his shoulder into Henry and

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Speaker 2: plants him down and the Eagles sideline explodes, and it

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my, oh, my goodness. Is this is

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Speaker 2: a physical Eagles defense. And what they changed during a

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Speaker 2: NFL Network is that during the bye week it seems

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Speaker 2: like Hurtz and Sirianna got on the same page. No

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Speaker 2: more of this, Let's throw the ball. They are a physical,

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Speaker 3: From the run. A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've gone back to it. They are now the

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Speaker 2: most physical team in the league. Hurts is not turning

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Speaker 2: red zone. Since the bye week, Hurts on fire ten

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Speaker 2: touchdown passes, one interception, He's got nine rushing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 2: most importantly, my man Saquon Barkley one of the best

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Speaker 2: running backs this league has seen in the last five years.

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Speaker 2: The Giants didn't want him. Sekwon Barkley goes to the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: If you roll the tape, you go back and listen, guys,

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Speaker 2: I said almost the exact words that Barkley can have

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Speaker 2: a Christian McCaffrey type impact on this Eagles offense. McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: these stats? He leads the NFL with fourth quarter rushing

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter touchdowns six, and he's averaging a staggering seven

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Speaker 2: we could get to Baltimore in a minute. But this

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Speaker 2: terrible and they have turned it around have not lost since.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll catch Detroit for the number

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Speaker 2: More than anything, Detroit has to hold on to it

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Speaker 2: because I don't know that they can play outdoors in

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They're doing this without Devonte Smith, who missed another game.

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown was solid again, He's a horse. But Saquon

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear this. Kansas City Chiefs nonsense.

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Speaker 2: They got lucky as hell again to win their thirteenth

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Speaker 2: straight one possession game, which is laughable. So Eagles beat

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Speaker 2: the Ravens on the road. Remember, no NFC teams beat Lamar.

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Speaker 2: He was like twenty three and one against the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Eagles went to Baltimore, beat Lamar, and Serve noticed that

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Speaker 2: they're the best team in the NFL. They're the team

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Speaker 2: to beat right now. Rob And I know you agree

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Speaker 3: Ooh, I'm not ready to go that far yet, Jason.

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Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I have a really close

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Speaker 3: they are currently playing like they are the best or

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Speaker 3: to go back to what you said about we were

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Speaker 3: talking on this podcast another show. We're talking about it

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Speaker 3: that they were in trouble. Nick Siiranni might get fired.

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Speaker 3: They had just lost. Coming to the by or going

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Speaker 3: to the bye week, everybody was concern Jalen Hurts was

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Speaker 3: giving these really awkward press conferences. He doesn't really say

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts wanting to prove that he's worth the massive

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Speaker 3: And Nick Sirianni, God save him because I've given him

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Speaker 3: a lot of shit on the air, off the air,

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, so on and so forth. He was right,

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Speaker 3: Like what they are is a physical, smash mouth team

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Speaker 3: that is gonna live and die with their running game.

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Speaker 3: They have a great running back and a fantastic offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They are gonna wear you down. As you mentioned in

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Speaker 3: people do not want to tackle Sakwon Barkley. They do

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Speaker 3: not want to see that offensive line guard trap over

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Speaker 3: the left edge. And now what you're seeing with this

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Speaker 3: more running game, less Jalen hurts. You're seeing the fully

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Speaker 3: formed version of the Philadelphia Eagles. And to your point,

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Speaker 3: if it comes down to a playoff game with them

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Speaker 3: But again, if it gets to a point where they're

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Speaker 3: playing outdoors and they have to go to Philadelphia, that's

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Speaker 3: a totally different conversation right there.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you mentioned that. I just looked at the schedule,

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Speaker 2: and we all know that the Lions played a million

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Speaker 2: Listen. Sometimes you know you take a lot of swings,

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Speaker 3: Why are you so late to get on this train? Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you make up, when you make a prediction,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna travel cold weather, warm weather, it doesn't matter,

430
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: and an offense that it can be plucky in the

431
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: right situation. I think that their floor is right there,

432
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: and I think they are the most complete team in

433
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: the AFC. We'll see if that ends up playing out

434
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: though in the postseason.

435
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: Now that's a hot take. I need to let it marinate.

436
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: Because I think Baltimore their peak is better than everybody.

437
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: The problem is they have so many just bad performance,

438
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: like they are their own worst enemy way too often.

439
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: What about the Bills.

440
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: I know something again, I everyone remember Sunday Night because

441
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: you know what they did is the Niners. I understand

442
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: that part. But yes, I think they're number one in

443
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: point differential in the AFC. My only concern with them

444
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 3: is I don't think that they have enough weapons outside

445
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 3: of Josh Allen that their offense is just Josh Allen

446
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: is going to have to be incredible in the postseason

447
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: against the better teams.

448
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. If you remove that Raiders game,

449
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: their their loss is to the Texans. Now, Allen was putrid.

450
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: He was nine of thirty in that game. Maybe he

451
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: was nursing an injury or something.

452
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he may have gotten concussed in that game,

453
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: if you remember, that's right.

454
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: He was a good memory. He was concussed. They didn't

455
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: have Amari Cooper at that time, and they were much

456
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: more limited. I don't think they've lost Cincia Maari Cooper

457
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: trade I could. Yeah, no, they haven't, and they basically

458
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: scored thirty plus points in I think every game with Coop.

459
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: Well, Cope hasn't really played where either because he's been

460
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: in and out of the lineup.

461
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: It's fair. He did have the nice shovel pass to

462
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: Josh Allen on the hook and ladder creative creative play

463
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday, But like I would not discount. I mean,

464
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is playing like Superman at this tame.

465
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: He's awesome.

466
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen, I just wonder, like, is he is

467
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: he gonna be like what Patrick Mahomes done the last

468
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: couple years. Just the team. I'm not letting my team lose,

469
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, We're not. We're not gonna lose. And Milano

470
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: will be coming back from injury, like that's gonna be interesting.

471
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: I just I don't know something about Russell Wilson. How

472
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: bad he's been the last couple of years. I can't

473
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm having a problem disassociating that with just this nine

474
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: game sample size of like or not even nine sorry,

475
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: because Justin Fields it's like six games. Yeah, it's like, oh,

476
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: he's been hot, wonderful. And by the way, the Bengals, Like,

477
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: if you want to wonder why the Bengals should be

478
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: firing their entire defensive staff, it's like ball game on

479
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: the line, Justin Fields comes in. It's like, oh, Justin

480
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: Fields is on the field. He's running the football and

481
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: they couldn't even contain him, and he gets the yardage

482
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: and neel downs and it's over. But yeah, Steelers are

483
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: a really really interesting story. I I hate being so

484
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: wrong about them. I well, let me, let me just

485
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: check the schedule on them, rob something's just telling me

486
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: that they're a little fugazi.

487
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: I mean, they have a Gottley coming. I know they

488
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: got Philadelphia. I think they have Baltimore again.

489
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: I mean, so their first clean at home against Cleveland,

490
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: which they just lost to, so a great revenge spot

491
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: for them at Philly at Baltimore back to back. And

492
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: the Baltimore is a short week ooh, that's rough, and

493
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: then versus Casey at home, so they could take three

494
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: l's in a row. And then I guess week eighteen,

495
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: maybe Burrow's not gonna be playing. I don't know what

496
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: the Bengal status is gonna be, but there's a world

497
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: where Tomlin's probably got Rookie of the year, sorry, coach

498
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: of the year locked up. I guess we should probably

499
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: last topic before we get to college, because there is

500
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: some good college football stuff on the horizon. Let me

501
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: just say a couple of words about the Kansas City Chiefs.

502
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: Rob I saw an incredible stat that I think it

503
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: was from Shale. He's been on the podcast Capatia Cho

504
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: Capatia had a stat that there's been twenty one, I

505
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: think twenty one teams that have got eleven wins through

506
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: thirteen weeks or something something to that effect since two

507
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: thousand and the Chiefs have by far, by far, the

508
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: lowest point differential of any eleven win team through thirteen weeks.

509
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: And if you again, I know they have Patrick Mahomes

510
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: and Andy Reid, and we could keep saying that until

511
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: we're blue in the face and that that's like the

512
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: mic drop. Well, we've got Andy Reid and we've got

513
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Okay, they struggle to beat your Raiders, which

514
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: I think you called that game. I was a more

515
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row. I thought I thought Casey

516
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: would open it up, you know, like Pacheco's coming back,

517
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: and it's late season Chiefs and the rebounding from the

518
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: lost to Buffalo. But they looked ordinary against Buffalo. They

519
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: beat Carolina by three on a late field goal. They

520
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: survive your Raiders on a totally botched effort by the

521
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Raiders offensive line and the quarterback and everything, the Denver

522
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: blocked kick. They needed overtime to beat Tampa when Tampa

523
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: had no receivers on Monday night football. They beat the

524
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Raiders by seven. The best win I guess you could

525
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: call it was against the Chiefs when the Chiefs got

526
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: hurt and the Chiefs were off. I'm sorry, not the

527
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs got hurt. That was the game. I think you

528
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: got hurt. Chiefs were coming off a bye. Great spot

529
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: for them. The one win that the other double digit

530
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: win was against the Saints. The game against the Chargers.

531
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Kind of luck box Falcons imploded. Somebody stitched together a

532
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: video I don't know if it was this guy NFL

533
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 2: memes maybe, but it was like, of all the wacky plays,

534
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely's toe the flag against the Bengals on fourth

535
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: and sixteen with the game on the line, the Falcons

536
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: imploding in the red zone multiple times. It was just like,

537
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, all of this has happened, and I

538
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: know sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. I

539
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: get all that, guys, I totally do, but at some

540
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: point this is going to catch.

541
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: Up with you.

542
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: You can only run so hot for so long. Rob

543
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: You've been at the craps table where you just you're

544
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: on fire. You're like, I've never been this hot. Oh

545
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: my gosh, it's unbelievable, and all of a sudden it

546
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: starts to peter out. It's gonna happen now. I don't

547
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: know if it happens this week. Chargers game is gonna

548
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: be awesome Sunday night football. I like the Chargers. We'll

549
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: see what the injuries. The Dobbins injuries brutal because that

550
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: offense is so limited. They didn't even have two hundred

551
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: yards against the freaking Falcons. So Chiefs are gonna be

552
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: considerable favorites here. At Cleveland, come on, that should be

553
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: a dub. Houston is limping, and you know, we can

554
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: have a discussion about CJ. Stroud and the sophomore slump

555
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: at Pittsburgh's interesting, and then at Denver. Denver could be

556
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: fighting for a playoff spot. So there's a chance. I

557
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: still believe Buffalo has a shot at the number one

558
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: seed in the AFC and Rob I would not be

559
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: shocked if they got it. Now, if you're a Kansas

560
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: City fan who cares the Ravens had the number one

561
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: seed last year, we had to go on the road

562
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: to beat Buffalo, and we had to go on the

563
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: road to beat the Ravens. Rob, wasn't last year's KC

564
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: team way better? They had Snead, they had a functional

565
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: left tackle, they had Rashi Rice, they had Pacheco healthy. Like,

566
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: this team's nothing like that team. Do you think they are?

567
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: No way? Yeah, no way to put in respective their

568
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: point differential I believe was plus fifty six entering Sunday's

569
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: action or as the conclusion of Sunday's action, that would

570
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: be the eleventh highest mark in the NFL. And they

571
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: have thirteen wins, Like you're not gonna get away with

572
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 3: stuff like they got away with against the Raiders. Against

573
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: the best teams in the league, the AFC is entirely

574
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: too deep, especially at the top, for you to think

575
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: you can get away with smoking mirrors like they have

576
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: basically this entire season. You might be able to beat

577
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: one of Buffalo or Pittsburgh or Baltimore or or you know,

578
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: you mentioned the Chargers, You're not gonna beat three of

579
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: them playing like that, Like, that's just not gonna happen.

580
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: So unless something can change here in the month of December.

581
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, I know, has been kind of heating up

582
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: a little bit the last few weeks. We got to

583
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: get credit on that, but the rest of their team

584
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: is following, even their vaunted defense. I think they have

585
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: a great defensive team. The last few weeks have been okay,

586
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: like they've been solid, but they can't afford to just

587
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: be solid because their offense isn't good enough to make

588
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: up the difference. They have Patrick Mahomes, they have Travis

589
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Kelcey and that's about it.

590
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, don't sleep on that other guy, Noah Gray.

591
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: I picked him up in Fantasy for the stretch run.

592
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: Dude, he's a machine. No, Yeah, he's not bad and

593
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: he all he does catch touchdowns. Yeah, but I'm not

594
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: trusting Kansas City. This is for my money. Even though

595
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: they eleven and one, this is the worst Chiefs team

596
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: of the Mahomes era.

597
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. I totally agree.

598
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Rob.

599
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, if these three quarterbacks hit

600
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: the market this offseason and you are, oh, let's just

601
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: go with your Raiders. If you're your Raiders, which of

602
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: these guys are you pursuing assuming you don't get shadur

603
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 2: in the draft Sam Darnold, Because you know Minnesota has

604
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and they just signed Daniel Jones. So we'll

605
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: see Aaron Rodgers, who the Jets should and likely we'll

606
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: cut baitwith after this season. And then your sleeper and

607
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: that would be drum roll please. Kirk Cousins. Captain Kirk

608
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: has hit a massive snag. He is one of the

609
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: coldest quarterbacks in the league right now. In the last

610
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: three games, all losses, since they were six and three,

611
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins has zero touchdowns, six picks. And this is

612
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: not against the league defenses. This is against the Saints

613
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: indoors at Denver, which was predictable disaster and then against

614
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers yesterday, and like an idiot, I was on

615
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: the Falcons thinking, oh, hey, great spot for them. The

616
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: Chargers had the Hardbowl, short week, go East, and then oh,

617
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: by the way, after that, they have Sunday night football

618
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, who they're trying to

619
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: catch in the AFC. So yeah, there'll be a letdown

620
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: from the Chargers. No, Kirk Cousins said, I'll just throw

621
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: four frickin' interceptions, all of them in Chargers territory. One

622
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: in the end zone, won a pick six that I

623
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: think was seventy one yards. He threw two inside the

624
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: Chargers thirty yard I mean, kirk Cousins imploded. I'm shocked

625
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: they didn't bench him. There will be talk about going

626
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: to Michael Pennox this week. That's gonna be a storyline

627
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. But what's even spicier is if somehow Tampa

628
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: is able to snag that playoff spot and the Falcons

629
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: miss rob. Do you think Atlanta says, hell, let's just

630
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: take the dead cap hit. And I'm on spot track

631
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: right now and I see that the dead cap hit

632
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: next year for kirk Cousins is only forty million dollars.

633
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: That's not that bad. And I know it sounds bad,

634
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: but it's not. Russell Wilson had a big dead cap

635
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: hit number. I think it was Matt Ryan had a

636
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: big one back in the day. It can be overcome,

637
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: right now, Okay, move on. You got the quarterback on

638
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: the rookie deal. Of those three Cousins, Donald and Rogers,

639
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: which which of those guys appeals to you most?

640
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: Gosh darn it, I guess Sam Darnald. But I don't

641
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: feel good about any of those three guys right now,

642
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: not at all. And again, if Rodgers right, definitely not.

643
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Speaker 3: Rogers is a distant third for me. He's just been terrible.

644
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Speaker 3: And not even when they're talking about the New York

645
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: Jets entering Monday morning, the idea they're not shooting down entirely,

646
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: the idea of benching Aaron Rodgers, that's a lot about

647
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: where they're at. But with Kirk Cousins, and I know

648
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: it seems crazy to move off of him after you

649
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: just signed it this massive deal, but to your point,

650
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: you drafted the quarterback already, he's on a rookie deal,

651
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: so he's ready to go. The rest of your great

652
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: playmakers are also on their rookie deal, but Jean Robinson,

653
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: Drake London, and I don't think Darnell Mooney cost you anything.

654
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: I don't think Tyler algieer is going to cost you anything.

655
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: And I know that Algier might still be on his

656
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: rookie deal for all I know. But they are in

657
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: one of those unique positions where if they really wanted

658
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: to move off of him, they could do it and

659
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 3: absorb the cap hit and it wouldn't really materially impact

660
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: their team moving forward because the rest of their core

661
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: is so young. So Atlanta, I don't think they're going

662
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: to make the move this week, but I also wouldn't

663
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Speaker 3: be shocked they did either because coming into the draft,

664
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Speaker 3: and you and I both love the Pennix pick because

665
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: we both really high him as a player, But coming

666
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: in he was viewed as the most pro ready prospect

667
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. So that's why I was so

668
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Speaker 3: surprising that Atlanta would take him, because they just signed

669
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Speaker 3: a quarterback to be their stopgap starter. You would think

670
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Speaker 3: you go to a tea where, hey, we're gonna throw

671
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: him to the fire immediately and see what happens. Well,

672
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Speaker 3: that might happen much sooner than anybody anticipated.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix. I'm looking him up, the guy who was,

674
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Speaker 2: as you said, the most pro ready quarterback. He turns

675
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Speaker 2: twenty five in May. So this isn't some like young

676
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: kid getting tossed into the fire. If you give him

677
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: the reins and frankly, you know, you make Pennix your guy,

678
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: and you've got some wiggle room pretty instantly to be good.

679
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: B Jhon Robinson was solid. I think Drake London's emerging

680
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: as a really nice player. Kirk Cousins just it looks washed.

681
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to pile on Aaron Rodgers. Rob you

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: said it pretty well, but I have a stat here

683
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Speaker 2: that's staggering. So on passes over ten air yards against

684
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Seattle Sunday, Rogers was two of fourteen. That's like my

685
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: shooting in a men's league in a big spot. I

686
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: mean he was two or fourteen for the season on

687
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: passes over ten are yards. That means, you know, it's

688
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: not checked down. Charlie, he's thirty eight percent. Thirty eight Like,

689
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's like Anthony richardson territory. It's just unbelievable

690
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: how bad Rogers has become.

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695
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Speaker 2: But let's move to college football real quick. Rob. I

696
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: know you, you know you have the new baby arrived.

697
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you were watching a lot of football on

698
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Speaker 2: the couch. Did you see Michigan Ohio State at the ending?

699
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

700
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Speaker 2: And I'm just curious you played football at a high

701
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: level in high school. Ok, I denied, I did not

702
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: play in high school. I did, I did try out orde.

703
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: But I am curious if some like give me the

704
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: mindset of why planting a flag would make somebody so upset,

705
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: especially after you got your butt kicked as a twenty

706
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Speaker 2: point favorite.

707
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Speaker 3: Well that the second part is why this is such

708
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: an absurd story, Because if this is any other game,

709
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: if this was last year or even the year before,

710
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: where these teams are reasonably evenly matched and they're both

711
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: playing for something like a playoff berth or the Big

712
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: Ten championships on the line, with one of these two teams,

713
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: then sure I could see how emotions run hot. You

714
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: get a little upset, you can thinks get a little

715
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: spicy and it leads to that kind of confrontation. But

716
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: for Ohio State in the situation, you had sixty minutes

717
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: to punch these guys in the mouth. This Michigan team

718
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: is not good, point blank period. They're just not a

719
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: good football team. And you tricked away this game over

720
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: and over and over, both with you know, special teams

721
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Speaker 3: play and the quarterback, which I can imagine if you're

722
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 3: an Ohio State booster, you're like, why are we giving

723
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: out millions of dollars to a guy who can't beat

724
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: a mediocre Michigan team? Like what are we doing here?

725
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: But for them to get that upset when as you

726
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: alluded to, they were the heavy favorites coming in, they

727
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: should have bludgeoned Michigan. They went down meekly, and it

728
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: wasn't until after the game that you saw a little

729
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: bit of fire from Ohio State. That was so disappointing

730
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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so that was not the only one, apparently, And

732
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: I watched we were traveling on Saturday, but I was

733
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: I had the game cueued up. The technology these days

734
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: is awesome. So you have like cable so you can

735
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: get the app for your cable provider and you can

736
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: just watch the game in the car, but I'm driving,

737
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: so my daughter was kind of give me the play

738
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Speaker 2: by play, and I was just I was stunned, you know,

739
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: I had I thought Ohio date was a lock. I've

740
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: got Ohio State to win the National Championship, like feeling great,

741
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: and this loss was just stunned. I was similar to

742
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Ryan day ill prepared without a handle any thinking Ohio

743
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: State related. I just I'm not ready for this. But

744
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: the flag planting was just minumbingly stupid. And it happened

745
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: also in Florida. FSU is terrible. I don't know why

746
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: they would care about anything. They didn't care about their

747
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: season NC NC State and then Arizona State Arizona And

748
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: my only conclusion is that there's gonna be a rule

749
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: this offseason about this dumb flag planting, like you're just

750
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: not allowed to do that.

751
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: Now.

752
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Somebody, when I put this on social media, somebody counted, well,

753
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna make it like storming the field where

754
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: you get fined every time, and I that's different. Storming

755
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: the field is different than teams fighting and the police

756
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: eating pepper spray to secuate them. That's a bad look,

757
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: that's horrible. For college football. It's like, what that just

758
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: marred the entire game. The story wasn't how did Michigan win.

759
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: Nobody's really articulated that. It's all why were they fighting?

760
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: Because the video of teams fighting over a flag being

761
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: planted and Rob wisely called it the Baker Mayfield rule

762
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: because he, of course at Oklahoma planted a flag back before.

763
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Speaker 3: It was cool.

764
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: Now everybody now, all the kids are doing it, and

765
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: it just let's just get that rule out there and

766
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: get it done. Like, let's focus on the football now.

767
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: The football is not great. I mean Mimiami Hurricanes. I

768
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: like that team a lot. I like cam Ward. They

769
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: lose to Syracuse. I don't think Miami's gonna make the playoff.

770
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: But the college football playoff rankings Tuesday for the first time,

771
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be fascinating because it's like, is anybody good?

772
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: Remember when Penn State, like two weeks ago, everybody's like, oh,

773
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: they're not good.

774
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: Who have they beat?

775
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: Why they deserve a spot? Penn State's now playing for

776
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship if they somehow beat Oregon, and

777
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, Texas loses the SEC title game, it's

778
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Penn State. The number one.

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00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: See.

780
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it doesn't make sense. I

781
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: don't think it should be like that, but it could.

782
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: And Penn State's not very good. I mean, they didn't

783
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: need an overtime against USC, And I mean Penn State's

784
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: got some good players. I like their coach, but I

785
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: don't know. Tennessee are they good? Is Ohio State good?

786
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. They don't seem like they're built for

787
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: cold weather. They've got if you could run the football,

788
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: they're in trouble. But this flag planting thing kind of

789
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: flip the whole weekend. By the way, Oregon's number one

790
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: rob and you watch a lot of West Coast football.

791
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: Is Oregon that good?

792
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: No? But I think they're easily the best team in

793
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: the country. And then I think this is one of

794
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: those situations where the playoffs is actually hurting them because

795
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: if this was any other year, you know, they're already

796
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: the national champions. If this was two years ago, they

797
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: got to win two games and it's it's a rap. Yeah,

798
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: now you got a twelve team playoff and you know,

799
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. I will say, bad job by

800
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: you for not acknowledging that a flag planting also took

801
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: place at UNLV, but because nobody got upset about it,

802
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: nobody talked about it because I don't think anyone in

803
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Nevada cares that the UNLV planned a flag and then

804
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: then you know there's no fights. But this is It's

805
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: What also is disappointing is I know Ohio State lost,

806
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: and that's it's a stories, not these stories you mentioned.

807
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: It was the brawl. That's not going to impact them

808
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: in the playoff. They're going to be in the playoff

809
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: even still, even after a debacle of a loss like that,

810
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: they're still was going to be seven eight.

811
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Speaker 2: Thinks I think so are we sure about that?

812
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: Though? I'm almost positive Ohio State will get in, just

813
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: like I'm almost positive that Alabama's gonna get in, because

814
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: even Lane Kiffin put out this really bizarre posting on

815
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: social media breaking down the difference between South Carolina, Ole Miss,

816
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: and Alabama, and according to his you know, statistics, it's

817
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: clear that ole Miss was the best team of the

818
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: three and they deserved the twelfth spot or whatever it was,

819
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: but he put at the end because it's Alabama and

820
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: they're a brand name, Alabama's gonna get in. Overall, miss

821
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: so Ohio State is gonna get in.

822
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: I would largely agree. Real quick, I'm looking up some

823
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: stats because I have a question you're not going to

824
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: be prepared for, but I don't care. I think it's

825
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: a good topic. So the leader in the country in

826
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: passing yards is this guy named Kyle McCord at Syracuse, Rob,

827
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: do you know where Kyle McCord played.

828
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: Last year the Ohio State Yeah, I did.

829
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 2: Not even know that. Unbelievable. Okay, now the other question

830
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: and we can we can wrap up with this a

831
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: huge Heisman Trophy guy. But if I asked you, who

832
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: would your high school? First of all, no, no, I'm not

833
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: gonna ask you your votes for first what is your

834
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: criteria for the Heisman Trophy?

835
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I mean it's the problem is it

836
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: changes year to year. Usually you gotta be the most

837
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: outstanding player on a national championship.

838
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: Contending Okay, what does outstanding mean?

839
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: The best player? Statistically? One of the best players.

840
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: Okay, statistically that's the word. I was gonna keep browbeating

841
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: you until young gave it to me. So I'm just

842
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: looking at stats, and I'm looking at like receiving leaders

843
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: and h Travis Hunter's fifth A bunch of guys call

844
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: it more passes than him in yards and touchdowns. I'm

845
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: looking at the running backs, and this fellow by the

846
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: name of Ashton Genty at Boise State has six hundred

847
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: more yards than anyone else. He is trending toward Barry

848
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: Sanders territory. Ashton Genty is an amazing player. I think

849
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a first round pick, and he is

850
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: having one of the greatest seasons any running back is

851
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: ever had in college football. He has twenty eight touchdowns

852
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: twenty two hundred yards. I mean, this is a historic stuff.

853
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: And I'm being told that the Heisman Trophy is going

854
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: to go to Travis Hunter and he is the heavy favorite.

855
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: Can you just explain it? I mean, now, gent's played

856
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: a week schedule, I get it. But when he faced Oregon,

857
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: which is number one, he had twenty five carries for

858
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety two yards and three touchdowns. So

859
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: decent effort against the number one team in the country.

860
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: Why are people voting Travis Hunter again?

861
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Well, and Boise State is going to be in the playoff,

862
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: it looks like all most likely it's trending that way. Yeah,

863
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: so for my criteria, he checks all the boxes. He's

864
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: having a statistically incredible season. He is easily one of

865
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: the best players in the country regardless of position, and

866
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: last but not least, he's playing for a national title

867
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: contender in Boys States. Now, they're going to be down

868
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: on the list of contender, but they're gonna be in

869
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: the mix. Colorado, lest we forget gagged away a game

870
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: against Kansas a couple of weeks ago or else, they

871
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: could have been in that conversation and they're not. I

872
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: made this joke on the radio last week when it

873
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: was my first time back. I wasn't here on this podcast,

874
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: but I was on the radio, and I joked that

875
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is gonna win the Heisman because he's a

876
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: snap merchant, because he plays one hundred plus chet snaps,

877
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: and people can't seem to get over that fact that

878
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: he is. He's a very good player. I'm not saying

879
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: he's a great an excellent player. Is he the best

880
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 3: wide receiver in the country.

881
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: No.

882
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: Is he the top five receivering I don't think so.

883
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: Is he the best cornerback in the country, I don't

884
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: think so. He's very good. He's very good at both.

885
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: But Ashton Genty is by far the best running back

886
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: in the country. He is arguably the best running back

887
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: we've seen in a decade in college. So I'm voted

888
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: for that guy.

889
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it. I get the whole most

890
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: talented whatever that means. That's like if you ask to

891
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: people who's the most talented player where you could just

892
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: go to like the Bruce Feldman list of the freaks

893
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: and then find that person and say they're there. But

894
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: like Travis Hunter, yes, I get it, he's super talented.

895
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna go top ten. I, by the way,

896
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't draft a defensive back in the

897
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: top five. You know, Sauce Gardner by the way, he's

898
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: starting to look ordinary. Stingley was clearly overdrafted. Like I'm not.

899
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm not rocking with getting a defensive back that early

900
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: in the draft. I just don't think it pays off.

901
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: All I know is Ashton Genty is the most productive

902
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: college football player. Now, this isn't what Ron Daye. You

903
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: remember Ron Daye, the big kid from Wisconsin. He got

904
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: like the it was like the Lifetime Achievement Award where

905
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: he was he didn't he had a good season, but

906
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: it was more like, oh, this guy started for like

907
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: three plus years. Look at all the stats he accumulated.

908
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: We got to give him the award, and they gave it

909
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: to him. Fine. I forget who he beat out. It

910
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: might have been like Tiki Barber or something, but.

911
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: I think he beat out Cade mcdown.

912
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Was it Cade mcdown?

913
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: I think so the quarterback?

914
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: What U c l A U CLA Yeah, okay, And

915
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: I was like, that's not a lifetime and cheaping a word.

916
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: But in one season, like Ashton Jenty's been incredible, so

917
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: I know. Listen, people love Dion and Dion's a Carnival Barker.

918
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: By the way, it sounds like people think he's staying now.

919
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: He's signed a bunch of high profile recruits over the

920
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving break and everybody's like, would you be signing with

921
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: him if you think he's leaving. I'm like, well, just

922
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: know that players could change their mind at the drop

923
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: of a hat. You can decommit any time. But that

924
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean anything. I need to see what jobs

925
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: are open. I'm just we'll talk about it later, Rob,

926
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: we gotta wrap up here. But I think that Chicago

927
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Bears job is the best job that's open in the NFL.

928
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Jacksonville is gonna be good because you got

929
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and my gosh, I'm glad he's okay. But

930
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: that Bears team, they got some talent.

931
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: Man.

932
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: I think there's something there.

933
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: No love for the blank Slate Raiders. It's okay, I

934
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: get it.

935
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, wait do you think Pierce is what he's gone?

936
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's gonna fire him as soon as he can

937
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: shoot him into the sun.

938
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: All right, that's a lengthy Monday pod at football. Not

939
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: even a great game, So I have zero dollars on

940
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: this game. If anything, I would probably lean Browns thanks

941
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: to my guy cleave Ta, who likes the Browns. I

942
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: think he took him on the contest here just because

943
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: again it's bo Nick's high profile game, a smart defensive

944
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: coach in Schwartz. I think the Browns can cook stuff

945
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: up and keep it close. And also, by the way,

946
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm rooting Browns because I have a like a ten

947
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: point lead in fantasy and I'm facing Bo Nicks and

948
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Jo Judy. Not great, but I've been first, so I'll

949
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: be tied for first after that. It's a pretty good

950
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: weekend at Fantasy. I hit unbelievably two five team teasers

951
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Those were great contests, only three to two.

952
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: But anyways, all right, we are back tomorrow. College football

953
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: heating up, NBA, rob G. How about your Lakers?

954
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're back.

955
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: You feeling good after that went over the Jazz?

956
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: Of course not, but we're back. Don't worry about it.

957
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the injuries mounting. But how about Dalton Connect? Dude,

958
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: when are we gonna do? Could we get him on

959
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: the potter? Is he too big of a deal now?

960
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: Would get him now? Would definitely gang get him after

961
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: the All Star break because he's You're taking.

962
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: Over Connect for baby. All right, talk to you tomorrow,

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00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: seem