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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be getting of course, I'm working by from

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Speaker 2: guy doing it. Fucking yeah, I'm gonna go through this

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Speaker 3: Mean the sides and sounds and sounds of New York

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Speaker 3: great listen weird if anything, our pod family, our massive fanship,

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Speaker 1: Been clamoring noise for this. So hopefully despite the noise,

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Speaker 2: Life has been busy for both of us. Between you

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Speaker 1: a event you and I, but mostly you launched Ambush

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Speaker 1: Tennis with Billy Jean King with Addie Das. You were

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Speaker 1: on Good Morning America, we were on The Today Show.

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Speaker 1: You hosted a daily news live program and covered ESPN

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you blew it because we were just everywhere.

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Speaker 2: This is my favorite time of the year when it

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Speaker 2: And it's fine and I'm surviving and I survived and

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Speaker 2: we're moving on. And what a great tournament we had.

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Speaker 2: the greatest player of all time. I mean, he just

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Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Thirty six years of age, he's like everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: This guy. I mean. John McEnroe said that in our

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Speaker 1: Now, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not done up, not in some fancy outfit. She's

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If we make the Australian open like

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Speaker 1: This is what a great outcome for tennis?

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Speaker 1: the moment, and we're all better for it. We're better

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Speaker 1: for it having her. And listen, I love Seblanca. I

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Speaker 1: shattering a loss, because having an entire stadium, you know,

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Speaker 1: cheering for your mistakes is brutal. It's brutal, as you said,

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Speaker 1: and you've experienced it, and you know, I think the

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Speaker 1: some of the noise for Serena and another favorites that

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Speaker 2: Coco walked on the court. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard that scream since last year with Serena,

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Speaker 2: and so this kid, as I just I know I'm

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Speaker 2: using a lot of hyperbole here, but you can you

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Speaker 2: will not meet a nicer kid, and I can call

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Speaker 2: her kid. She's half my age, actually more than half

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Speaker 2: my age.

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Speaker 1: More than my team.

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Speaker 2: She's nineteen. But her poise, her ability to be able

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Speaker 2: to understand the moment, even on the trophy stand to say, Billy,

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Speaker 2: thank you for this, for the three million dollar prize,

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Speaker 2: money check that.

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Speaker 1: She's getting for people pay Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Everything about this this young woman. She praises Venus and

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Speaker 2: Serena every time she speaks. She said, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been here without them. She's just a credit to our sport.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that she had this success, and I

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Speaker 2: hope that she keeps running with it because there's going

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Speaker 2: to be no better top player in the world than Coco.

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Speaker 2: So we've got all these maturations of all these different

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Speaker 2: produce this incredible tennis. So you've got sabal Ancos just

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Speaker 2: like would rip your face off if you give her

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Speaker 2: some great characters at the top of the game. And

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Speaker 2: obviously with the man Novak still ruling Alcarez biting at

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Speaker 2: his heels and mentioned death, letting every know, don't forget

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Speaker 2: about me. I'm still here. But I tell you that

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Speaker 2: there were there were days that just As wasn't great,

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Speaker 2: but overall, wow, like yeah, I'm I was just it was.

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Speaker 2: It was very pleasing to be her amazing.

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Speaker 1: And we should let you go because you're very busy

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Speaker 1: because now you have some fashion week commitments and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try to uh wrap things up from our many, many,

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Speaker 1: many engagements so that I can move on with my life.

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Speaker 1: But I am thrilled to be back on the microphone

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Speaker 1: with you. Thank you for making time. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: our incredible audience for prodding, supporting, and being patient above

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Speaker 1: all us with us, because we've been extraordinarily busy with

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Speaker 1: which is great and a good good way to be.

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Speaker 1: But obviously we like to do more of these rather

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Speaker 1: than less, and we'll try to get back to you

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Speaker 1: more regularly now that the Mayhem of the summer season

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Speaker 1: and Rene doing two jobs and me doing two jobs

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Speaker 1: and everybody busting' ass is maybe.

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Speaker 2: A little calmer now on the fall.

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Speaker 1: So appreciate you guys listening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do, and hey listen. Feel free to

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Speaker 2: write us on Twitter, it'd be nice, because you know, God,

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Speaker 2: I got some hate over the last few weeks because

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Speaker 2: people are just so bored. But you know what I

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Speaker 2: do now, Caitlin, I just block. Just look great, block good, look, look, look,

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not into the fight anymore. I

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Speaker 2: say my opinions and I move on. So believe it

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Speaker 2: or not, but I will bitch to you. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: carry on, people. Thank you for hanging out, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for waiting for this. I am literally sitting in a

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Speaker 2: stairway doing this pod. I was walking the streets of

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Speaker 2: New York and now I'm handing it over to your

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening, and we'll see you soon, babe.

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