1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. It's a special half hour, fantastic Friday 6 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys. So Mickey, we got no time 7 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: for your Missouri talk. We're getting right to it. Okay, 8 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: tell you any stories about typing or No. Mickey's minute today. 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: You gotta have minute from No No, no, no, Mickey's sure. 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: We can't. I like that music though. It's Ken's genius 11 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Ken Garrison at the content rolls you guys. I'm Bill Jones. 12 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Rob Phillips and Mickey Spagnola and a 13 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: big day here as a press conference is set up 14 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: upstairs in the atrium area, a noon press conference where 15 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones will make a an announcement, a football related 16 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: matter will be discussed, and we're gonna talk Cowboys Titans 17 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: as we lead you up to Monday night. And Brian 18 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: brought us as his serious scouting cap on right now, 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready to roll? I am, I'm ready to roll. 20 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: So do we start with noon today? What's happening at 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: noon today? What do we think kill Brandt's going in 22 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor? There we go, all right, we 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: settled that. Now let's moving, going to began trainers singing 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving? Football related matter, Well, it's a football game. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: It's a football halftime bill. Give me the scouting report 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: of what you saw in relations to the chairs and 27 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: how they were set up. A walk through the public area, 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: which is the atrium area at the Star where the 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: press conference will be held. There are a bunch of 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: seats for the media and perhaps a VIP or two 31 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: to be seated out in front of a desk with 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: the football field the practice field in the background. There. 33 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: It's set up very meticulously. And there are two chairs 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: at the table. Oh no, it's not Wit and where 35 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: in Romo. Well, if it is, Tony is not doing 36 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: a game. If there is a seat for Jerry, and 37 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: if you're putting three in the Ring of Honor, two 38 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of them are gonna have to stand. Well wait now, 39 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: you can't rearrange the chairs by noon. You can't add 40 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: a couple. It's a pretty small. It's a pretty small 41 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: desk though. Okay, it's take it. It's about as long 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: as our football desk right here on talking Cowboys. So 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: you could definitely put four people. You could put four 44 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: chairs up there. Okay, does anybody want to guess different 45 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: than what I guessed? No, that's fine, that's that's good. 46 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not acting like I'm no at all guy, 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: But I know, and I'm just saying I think that's 48 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: the direction they're gonna go. Here. They're gonna gil Brant's 49 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: up for the Hall of Fame, isn't he? Yes? He is. 50 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: He is already a finalist on the Seniors. Let's get 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: gil Brandon the Hall of Fame. Yea. What's interesting is 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: if this is in fact that right? Yeah, Usually when 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: they when Jerry makes an announcement for the Ring of Honor, 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: it's back in training camp and they kind of use 55 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: it as a way to sell tickets. Hey, come on, 56 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: so we don't you know, if that's the case, we 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: don't know what game it would be. And it's just 58 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: a little eliminate Thanksgiving. I think it's a little later 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: in the process, but hey, he's up for Hall of 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Fame induction or election in three months. So you're shooting 61 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: holes in my argument here. No I'm not. I'm just 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: saying it's it's you want to it's different. No, I 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: mean the reports are out there. I mean we've got 64 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: one last night from the Morning News from I'm guarantee 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: you a very good source that you know who's that. 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, I trust David Moore. Was 67 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of guessing going on, though, Oh 68 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot a lot. I saw my morning newspaper had 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: like five alternatives in there, and at some point, you know, 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: which one was the best one. You're gonna have to 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: the best of the worst speculation, the best of the worst? 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Which one was the best? The best of the worst. 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Speculation was that the Jerry stepping down, that there was 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: a trio going into the Ring of Honor, they'll be 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: inducted on Monday night, which I heard on a local 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: radio station this morning. They didn't they didn't say it 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. They were speculating. That's not a station 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that Mickey and I work on. I thought that was 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the first alternative offered in the Morning News. The second 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: one was gil By the Way, Yeah, I guess this 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: is one of those things where we're trying not to 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: be if we're the morning news, we're trying not to 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: be the smartest guy in the room. Well, because for 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: what it's worth up there, that's a morning news play upstairs. 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's telling us anything. No, they're all dressed. I thinks 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: it's Jimmy, Well that Jimmy grow was that mind? Where 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: was that speculation? It was Sean threw it out to 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: me just now on the fan. And it's not a 89 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: bad one, not at all. It's speculated it in my 90 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: head that the timing of it. It's a Friday and 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy is lives in Florida and he's makes it to 92 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: La This is would be a dice pit stop all 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the way. So just trying to come up with every 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: theory possible. So you don't think Jason's getting fired or anything. 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: An extension or an extension and somebody threw out an 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: extension for Dak and look, you can't do that. You 97 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: know he's not eligible until after the season to do that, right, 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: So and you don't throw that up. You don't set 99 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: up in the atrium area where all of the Ring 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: of Honor people are on the floor on the floor. Yeah, 101 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: and theirs are on the floor in the marble, in 102 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the marble, on the floor the atrium area. This would 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: be good. I should be able to book some people 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: for the Legend show if they just walk in the door. Yeah, 105 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: just have your business. Hey, you gotta think ahead. Yeah. 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: Well that's good. We got tooth Wednesday night. All right, 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: So we've got four votes for Gil Brand. I'm I'm 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm if I was a betting man, which I will 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: at the the not the dog track, the horse, the 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: horst track. Mickey's the horse the dog track guy, I'll 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: bet the I will bet on Gil Brand. That would 112 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: be my my That's that's a popular one on Twitter too, 113 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: right now, so I'll go with that too. I'm going 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: with Megan Trainers singing, right all right? Are you really 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: know he's not? We haven't had that announcement. I just 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: read that Charlotte Charlie like a press conference or something, 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen any mention of it. I will 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: say this, I would like to see if and I 119 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: do think it's it's probably Gil And I would like 120 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: to see Gil go in with a couple of players 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: from his era. Harvey Martin would be my first one 122 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: and my and it would be I would like to 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: see Ed two Tall Jones, Harvey Martin, and Gil Brandt 124 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: go in. I'm not saying that's gonna happen. And then 125 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I would, And then I would like to have a 126 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: combo platter of now we're sounding like the Buffalo Bills 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: defensive backs, okay, where everybody gets in but they're all right. 128 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Then I'm going with a combo platter from the sixties, 129 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties of Cornell Green, Charlie Waters and Everson Walls, 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: and then you take care of that era the Cowboys, 131 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: and you can focus on the I'm just gonna be 132 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm grateful that the fact that they're 133 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: acknowledging Gil Brandt. Yes, how about that? Yes? And I 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: will say I'm glad that they keep it exclusive and 135 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: that you don't walk into at and T Stadium and 136 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: you look up there and you go, who's that? Yeah, 137 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: because I can't tell you how many stadis. Oh, Saint 138 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Louis is famous for that Saint Louis rams. Back of 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: the day they had Saint Louis Cardinals. Well, the Redskins 140 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: are pretty famous for it. And a bunch. So that 141 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned, would you look at the stadium and say, 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: who's that two tall jos? No? No, no, no, you 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: would if you were my h R. L. Green Are 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: your age? Were drops generation of folk? Probably? Yeah, Well 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I've learned about it, just so we need to educate 146 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: people what these people look now. And I absolutely agree 147 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: with you. I think the average fan that's twenty years 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: old has no idea exactly the seven hill comes walking 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: through here. But you know mentioned Mickey mentioned the exclusivity 150 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: of it. Is there a single member of the Ring 151 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: of Honor that was not part of a championship team? 152 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Don Perkins? Is that the Meredith? Meredith? Yeah, Perkins. Yeah, 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: those are the two out of twenty. However many are 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: in it, Okay, depending on when you get to this 155 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: next crop of romos. And well, I'm just saying to 156 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: this point, I mean that shows you how exclusive this 157 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: thing is. They were part of championship games, not winning games. 158 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: And that is the knock against Everson Walls as far 159 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: as his Cowboy career is concerned, and where Everson is 160 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: a better candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 161 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: than the Cowboys Ring of Honor because he played for 162 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion with the Giants. Nothing wrong with that, 163 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: but I'll throw out on Cornell Green, all right, he 164 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: was a five time Pro bowler and he played on 165 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: those Super Bowl teams. Whatever. I think he's been overlooked 166 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: throughout time. You look at Charlie Waters him or Harvey Martin, 167 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: and I like Harvey Martin. I mean, I got those 168 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: all in the same group, and I got two Tall 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Jones in the same group. He's up there, who's up there? 170 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: That's why I said I got two tall and Harvey 171 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: going in first if I was doing it, you know, 172 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: and then I would do the dbs after that. So 173 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing us off top of my head, and I 174 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: may be wrong. Twenty one of those gentlemen, right, Okay, 175 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: there's twenty one of them, right. Who's got stats up 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: there that'll never be matched? Emmett Smith besides Emmett granted, right, yeah, 177 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's Tom Landry's twenty consecutive winning seasons. 178 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: What's fellow check at right now? He's yeah? But after that, 179 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: has anybody got stats up there that would match Everson 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Wall's interceptions? And how many does he have? He had 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: forty six with the Cowboys in over like fifty some 182 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: in his career. And think about this, Who's going to 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: lead to Cowboys with interceptions this year? And how many? 184 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: And a lot of that is it's a different game 185 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: now that I understand, and they're not getting and they're 186 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: not getting interceptions. Right, if somebody gets three this year, 187 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: we'll sit there and go, oh, that guy deserves an extension. Right. 188 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Everson had fifty seven interceptions in his NFL career, all right. 189 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Eleven in his rookie year though, well and nine, and 190 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: he had nine and eight and seven, and he led 191 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: him in interceptions like three times. And one of those 192 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: years was the strike season in eighty two when they 193 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: only played nine games, and with the Cowboys he had 194 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: forty four interceptions. Now, let me throw close. Let me 195 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: throw Charlie Waters out there, all right, Charlie Waters, And 196 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: I think this is great. Charlie Waters had forty one 197 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: interceptions in the regular season with the Cowboys, and of 198 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: course he wore number forty one. He also had nine 199 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: interceptions in the postseasonson for fifty interceptions in his career 200 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: if you count postseason I think he was a better 201 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: player him or Cliff Harris Well Cliff Harris, So I 202 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: clearly was on the All Decade team in the seventies 203 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, but and if if you're basing us on numbers, 204 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Cliff got the accolades. Yeah, I'm just saying, though, when 205 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: you're looking at stats, you know people will have more 206 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: already more receptions than Michael Irvin, not more Super Bowl titles, Right, 207 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna end up. Well, I don't remember where Romo's 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: passing yards are compared to Aikman's, but from the stats, damnpoint. 209 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if somebody gets three interceptions this year, 210 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna say, oh, sign that guy to an extension. 211 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: And look at Everson Walls what he did. Can I 212 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: take it a step beyond stats in the field with 213 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, Mickey talks about like the story, the stories 214 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: is important to Hall of Fame Pro Football Hall of 215 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: Fame is the field a lot of it. Kurt Warner 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: is an amazing story. Whateverson Walls did for Ron Springs, 217 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: his Cowboys teammate, to me, is one of the best 218 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: teammate stories I've ever heard. Donating a kidney that's huge. 219 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me, that's one of the best 220 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: stories I've heard since I've worked here and been a 221 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: part of you know, and I think that that kind 222 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: of tells you about what kind of guy he was, 223 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: what kind is what kind of teammate he was, So 224 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: I think you factor that into for some trying to 225 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: get him in at some point. How about a hometown 226 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: kid factor that in Harvey Martin the same right, right, yeah, right, See, 227 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Harvey Morton played in an error where they didn't keep 228 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: totals on sacks, right, so they weren't official official. Yeah, 229 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: so unfortunately for him. The way that Mickey just argued 230 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: correctly for Everson Walls is you know you could you 231 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: could try and do that with Harvey Martin, but then 232 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: someone will say, well, where what are the numbers? Where 233 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: are the numbers? You know, I just knew from watching 234 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: my own two eyes what a special player he was, 235 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,479 Speaker 1: so you know, I'll always fight for him. I appreciate 236 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Mickey fighting for Walls, but I would absolutely fight for 237 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Harvey Martin, just for what if Harvey Martin played in 238 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: this day and age, he would be a he'd be 239 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: a seventeen eighteen million dollar player here to your easily 240 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: to your point, you know this wikipedia age, Yeah, Okay, 241 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you look at Wikipedia and you get everything you need 242 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: to know about a person. Sure, how many sacks do 243 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: you think they've gotten down for Harvey Martin his career 244 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: NFL statistics on Wikipedia twenty eight ten. Yeah, I got 245 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: it down for ten sex. Yeah. The gas didn't become 246 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: an official statistic until the last year basically of his career. 247 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: He had that in a game I'm thirty seven game, 248 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years old, Brian, And like, I don't 249 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: know any really much about out Harvey Martin. I don't 250 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, beautiful Harvey Martin, you take it back, 251 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, to people in college. That's the problem. That's 252 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the problem. That's the problem. And this this this franchise 253 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: has had such a great history, but it's been with 254 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: two different at two different times. You look at what 255 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: happened from nineteen sixty until really nineteen eighty eight, and 256 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: then you have a new era from nineteen eighty nine 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: to today before Jerrea, after Jerry. Yeah. Yeah, And I 258 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: applaud ownership for trying to get guys in like Gil 259 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Brand and people like that. I mean that that was 260 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: such a huge part of my life. I'm so happy 261 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: And again it's gil Brand. There's no question in my 262 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: mind it's gonna be gil Brand today. But I'm happy 263 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: that that someone is recognized. It helped build that my 264 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: childhood of watching football, all those years of winning in 265 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: playoff games and Super Bowls and that stuff. I appreciate 266 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: that Jones is acknowledging that somebody before they owned the 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: team and this is the just is the struggle that 268 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: we're going to have with these other guys. This is 269 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: going to be the struggle, you know, because if you 270 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: compare the other guys to the guys that currently, the 271 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: other guys were better players. I understand this about Harvey 272 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Martin and this is on his Wikipedia page. By the way, 273 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: he was the NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Yes okay, 274 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy seven Super Bowl MVP Super Bowl, and 275 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: along with Randy White, there was a first ballot Hall 276 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: of Famer and first ballot Ring of Honor basically, if 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: you wanted to phrase it that way. In that season, 278 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: fourteen games season as a defensive end, he had eighty 279 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: five tackles and a league leading twenty three sacks. Of course, 280 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: that is more than Michael Strahan's twenty two and a 281 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: half in a sixteen game season, but the NFL doesn't 282 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: recognize that because that status was it was just a 283 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: team stat that was taken by the team just over 284 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: a fourteen game season in nineteen seventy seven. That gives 285 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: you an idea what kind of player Harvey Martin was. Yeah, see, 286 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: and that's weird that it was kept by the team, right, Well, 287 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: sacks Now it's kept by whoever gets hired to be 288 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: the official scorekeeper or whatever. So it's still kind of 289 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the team I wish. And he followed up in nineteen 290 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: seventy eighty had sixteen sacks, and in seventy ninety had 291 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: ten sacks. In nineteen eighty twelve sacks in nineteen eighty 292 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: one ten sacks in eight and eighty two and eighty 293 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: two was the strike season exactly, so it was nine 294 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: game season. Yeah, but that's when the official status and 295 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: that's when this again, yeah, and so that's why he's 296 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: only he's only got officially credited with ten sacks in 297 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: his NFL career. That's crazy, crazy, So don't believe everything 298 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: on Wikipedia, right, although that was on Wikipedia. Do you 299 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: have to read the story though, You gotta read the 300 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. I believe my own eyes when I saw 301 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: him play. That's right. So we've cleared that up. Now 302 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: we move on to glad we figured Irving got hurt yesterday. 303 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: How concerning is that, Well, anytime you hear a high 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: ankle sprain, it's concerning. That means several weeks, if indeed 305 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Yeah, this is that's what it is. 306 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: Isn't this just chapter seventeen of the Great Mystery Man's 307 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: what's the title of that book? And to be it's 308 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: always something, always, always something is even a better title 309 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: making that's a shame. It's a shame, and you know what. 310 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: And I but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if 311 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Sunday rolls around and we talk about him playing on Monday, 312 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: because he's just kind of a different guy, right, I mean, yeah, 313 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: kind of can just show up after not being around here, 314 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: freaking nature guy. But but but there's so many things. 315 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: There's just so many It's it's like you just you 316 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: just want to, you want to fall in love with 317 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: the player, and you can't. You can't because of his talent. 318 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: It's dominant, dominant talent. And you got this idea somebody, gosh, 319 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: how it's just gonna do the defense. And Donna don 320 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: I said he's played two games, two games. He is 321 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: a game changer, but it seems like it seems like 322 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: he's been here time well potentially potentially, yeah, potentially, because 323 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: he's not always there. That's the biggest problem. That, to me, 324 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: is the biggest problem. The reliability, the lack of the 325 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: lack of reliability there. I want to I want to 326 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: cheerlead for that guy so much. And he's a heartbreaker. 327 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: He's a heartbreaker. If I was working in personnel, he's 328 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna break my heart again. Yeah, here we go. And 329 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I and hey, he got hurt in practice, okay, and 330 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: he got carded off and you know, and he got 331 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: a concussion last Thanksgiving and the family issue he's been 332 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: dealing with. I can't help that. It's you know, it's 333 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: a tough deal and a lot of it that's out 334 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: of his control. You know that they're trying to and 335 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: they've been very supportive with him on that. But yeah, 336 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an amazing talent. He might be the 337 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: most talented guy on the team, pure talent, pureability, size, everything. 338 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: He's the one guy I'm gonna look back one day 339 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the lake on a fishing boat. It's 340 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: the best player you've ever seen that didn't didn't really 341 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: play all you know, it didn't play all them, David, 342 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: David Irving's that guy. I'll be sixty some years old 343 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: hopefully and saying that. But you know what, this has 344 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: been going on since high school. Sure it has hadn't changed, 345 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: Sure it has, Sure it has. This guy's an incredible talent, 346 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: rob You're absolutely right. He's incredibly unreliable too. The greatest 347 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: ability to have the greatest ability to have his availability, right, Yeah, 348 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: so it Parcels always says, that's what I mean. That's 349 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: what he told Witton when he broke his jaw as 350 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: a rookie sitting in the training room. Walk he did, 351 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: he said, he said, that's the key, That's that's the 352 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: line one in terms of being a good player in 353 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: this league. Just be there every week. Danny was, and 354 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: then and then be productive. Yeah, and then he didn't 355 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: miss a game after that, and he'll be calling the 356 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: game Monday. It just when I hear stuff about not 357 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: witting in Parcels. But this whole thing with David Irving 358 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: just it's irritating to me get hurt. You know, I know, 359 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: you know how much first practice back after bed all 360 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the week, or how about how about being suspended and 361 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: then coming back and then you practice and then you 362 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: can't play the game, right, right, A lot of a 363 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: lot of man and woman hours If I said that right, 364 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: it probably didn't a lot of people hours spent trying 365 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: to get this guy to get this guy to the field. 366 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Get this guy to the field, let him play, let 367 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: him be rare, let him be a freak of nature. Okay, Brian, 368 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: we need to get a report on what you saw 369 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: at practice yesterday. I'm practiced yesterday. Yeah, there's first practice 370 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: we've seen that since they were back to practice yesterday. Yeah. 371 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I think that I think that you're going to clearly 372 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: see them get that that number nineteen involved with this offense, 373 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, I don't think that's Jason Garrett. 374 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett show. I said, so, how big of an 375 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: impact can he make? Immediately in the first words out 376 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: of his mouth is we spent a first round draft 377 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: pick up. Yeah, that's this is clear. This is clear 378 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: that they're gonna they're gonna they're ramping this thing up. 379 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: There's no waiting around. Now there's you're three and four 380 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: second half of the season. You know, Mickey's gonna give 381 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: me some pass protection this week. You know, you got 382 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: to find a way to beat these guys throwing the 383 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: football a little bit. I know they don't give up 384 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: a lot of points, but they played some offensively challenged offenses. 385 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: About to play one Monday night. You know, see if 386 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: they can find a way to you know, find a 387 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: way to kind of go back to that good home 388 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: cooking that they have. But they need to get this 389 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: kid involved early and often. He can run, Yes, if 390 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: that's all you need to know. He can run, get 391 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: some separation, go snatch that football. Help this quarterback if 392 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah, the wide receivers coach said that he's 393 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: good to go. Yeah, and that didn't mean physically, and 394 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: he spent three days with him in the Bay Area 395 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, so face timing with the quarterback that 396 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, let's go. Now I'm with you and 397 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: quote yeah to throw it in the two in two 398 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: thou eighteen. Okay, yeah, chechohology is amazing thing, isn't it. 399 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: And then now you've got the rookie on the other side, 400 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop that you're starting to see progressis right. He 401 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: needs to play more two you know, I looked it up. 402 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: He's got the most snaps the last two games of 403 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: any wide receiver on the team. Keep going, Gallup, Gallup, 404 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: keep one hundred and fifteen snaps. Playing about fifty five 405 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: snaps a game should be almost the whole game. And 406 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to change, you know, with 407 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: the receiver in there. And the only and the only 408 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: problem I got with this, uh depth chart. Here is 409 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: gallup second team, and they got three wide receivers. Let's 410 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: put that first tart together. You think, well, I don't 411 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: know that Jason went over it, but all I know 412 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: who is AMRII. Cooper's on the first team at wide receiver. 413 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Keep an eye though on what's going on at right 414 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: guard though too. Yeah, right, we didn't bring that up. 415 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Jack Martin that that didn't look good yesterday, although at 416 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: least he was on the resistant chords. Yeah, I asked 417 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: it for practice. I asked him tuesday and he's, you know, 418 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can to be ready this week. 419 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: Got the extra day that helped. Yeah, and he spent 420 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the bye week. You know it took working with the 421 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: trainer show. But there's you cannot I mean, you can 422 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: do stuff, but when you sprain your mcl it's up 423 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: to mother nature, the football gods. Yeah, yep, that's the 424 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's you can do all the work 425 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: you want now you can take but up real tight 426 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: and put a brace on it. And the thing about 427 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: this guy, he's tough. We all know that. I'm not 428 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: telling you something you already don't know. And how would 429 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: you like the middle of your offensive line looking like 430 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Connor williams Uhaney. He did play through it right in 431 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the second half against Washington, Sure did so. I mean, maybe, yeah, 432 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: he did. Maybe he can strap it up. And since 433 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Adam Redman was not with the team during training camp, 434 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: a little capsule on him in case we see Adam 435 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: Redman and you have him in your big book there 436 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: I do. Oh yeah, I think I think I got 437 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Xavier sue Philo too, I think, yeah, I think that 438 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: to me Adam Redmond. I think Adam and Redman is 439 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: probably a better center than he is a guard, which 440 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: makes me interested about sue Philo. Why they're not going 441 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: that direction. But it was with the Titans by the 442 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: way so absolutely was and a veteran guy Texas before that. Yeah, 443 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: but I think this, I think Redman's a little bit 444 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: better center than he is a guard. But what you 445 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: need in there that that position, to me is you 446 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: need a guy that has some athletic ability and you 447 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: have the you know, the way their offense is and 448 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: the way they like the pull and trap and get 449 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: guys on the second level in space and screens and 450 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: things like that. I think that that Redman's a better 451 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: fit for that than what Sue of Philo is. So 452 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: that's probably why you have him going in and getting 453 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: the first look at the reps for Zach Martin. He 454 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: would be the first backup that you know you're gonna have. 455 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: It just occurred to me, do we have a show 456 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: Monday morning? No? Got a Monday night game? We got 457 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: to know on that for sure. I heard no yesterday. 458 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: So do we need to make a pick here? Yeah? 459 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: We got a three minutes left here? That's it? Oh, 460 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: it saw a half hour show. Didn't I pick the dub? 461 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Like on Monday? You went, you went right in on 462 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: the dub. I'm going with them how to use what 463 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: the pro seas exactly I'm going with the Cowboys at 464 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: home until proven otherwise. They've they've been a different team 465 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: at home, and uh protection they got to be able 466 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: to do that. We're gonna see how they how they 467 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: functioned under Mark Colombo coaching that unit. But I've got Dallas. Uh, 468 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: we'll see how Mark Cooper plays. I think they're just 469 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a fishing offensively as usual at home at home. 470 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Twenty seven to nineteen Cowboys. Strange number. Give me, Give 471 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: me the Cowboys to cover the point spread? Cowboys cover? 472 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: What's the six and a half? Six? All right? Are 473 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: you not giving a score? I hadn't thought about it. Okay, 474 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty six twenty That doesn't cover, does it? Six team? 475 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'll take the Cowboys at home as well. 476 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Been on an Owen two run here the last couple 477 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: of weeks. I need to get back on the good 478 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: side of that and try to catch you. Yeah, Cowboys, 479 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: they're playing this team, Like I say, Tennessee is offensively challenged. 480 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that if you had to pick between the 481 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: two offenses, who would you trust the most of offensively 482 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: challenge offenses. Dallas's offense, well, it should prevail here. Their 483 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: defense will do a good job against this Tennessee front. 484 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: And but if if they if they block, like I say, block, 485 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: there's plays down the field. Mark my words. Block the front, 486 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: you've got chance for plays down the field. They've given 487 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: up some big plays. Dallas wins this one. This is 488 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: gonna be a twenty three thirteen game. Twenty three thirteen game. Okay. 489 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: The last time the Cowboys played at AT and T Stadium, 490 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: they beat Jacksonville forty two seven forty seven. So I'm 491 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: gonna have cut that score in half and make it 492 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty to three and a half. Dallas wins. There you go. 493 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Bill's picks are always a bit. There's always a bit 494 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: that covers. I thought you're gonna say something else about 495 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Bill when I picked to click one pick to click, 496 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: we got a tight end. I gotta pick to click. 497 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: We got a tight end up in the broadcast booth. 498 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: My pick to click is another bit rico. Yeah, sure, sure, 499 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: why not? Dalton Schultz, Dalton Schultz, all right, good for 500 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: you control the middle of this front. Go get him. 501 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: Uh Antoine Woods all right, Mary Cooper, Michael Gallup, all right, 502 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: there you have it. The break is coming up next. 503 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: And of course at noon today, the big announcement. This 504 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: has been a production Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 505 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club