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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Naked Sports, we have television genius

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Speaker 2: catch up with executive producer of the show, Jesse Collins. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: So the icons are amazing. We're checking incredible boxes. First

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Speaker 1: one is Jamie Fox. The tribute to Jamie's gonna be insane.

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Speaker 1: Mariah Carey is going to be amazing performance, like unbelievable

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Speaker 1: gonna close with God's Boy Kirk Franklin, so we'll be

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Speaker 1: getting honored as well. So it's like a great mix

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at

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Speaker 2: the intersection of sports, politics and culture. Our purpose reveal

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Speaker 2: the comedyds them all right now, is what.

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Speaker 1: We've been trying to get to for almost thirty years.

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Speaker 2: From the stadiums where athletes single game assists record this

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Speaker 2: is crazy for rookies to be doing. Our discussions will

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Speaker 2: uncover the vital connections between these realms and the community

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Speaker 2: we create. In each episode, we'll sit down with athletes,

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Speaker 2: it all, how we see one issue shines the light

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Speaker 2: on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Carrie Champion. I want to tell you that I'm very

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Speaker 2: proud of you. First of all, let me give you

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Speaker 1: Friend. I'm in the service industry. Everything to me is

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Speaker 1: about service service, the network or studio service, the artist service.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, Okay, well yeah, whatever it takes, like

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Speaker 2: few moments. Why did you transition from being in front

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Speaker 2: live events as well as scripted and unscripted events, how

433
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Speaker 2: much writing do you participate in now or do you

434
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: just not as much? Yeah?

435
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: You overseeed every now and then I try to jam

436
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: a joke in just because I want to. I don't know,

437
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: they don't always get in. I'm not as sharp as

438
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: I used to be. But like he still is still

439
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: a love that I have, and so I'll be pitching

440
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: BG awatch. I'm pitching Kevin every day. He ain't gonna

441
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: use any of it, but I still like I'm pitching

442
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: every day on a group text with him and sheets

443
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, did you say this? And he's like,

444
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: doesn't respond.

445
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds sounds great. Not this here, just man,

446
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: he think he funny. Just pushed the button or pushed

447
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: the bke just pushed the button when I rehearsed, yeah,

448
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: that's it. I do. You mentioned BT and I and

449
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: for me, BT is this. It's the culture generational. It's

450
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: something that my mom, noh, my mother and my mother's

451
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: mother and you talk to anybody to this day. It

452
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have the same obviously impact for in social worlds,

453
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: but when you produce these live shows, it does really

454
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: live in a very special social space. Not twenty four

455
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: to seven, but it does live in a very social space,

456
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: and it is b ET and it does make especially

457
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: us for the culture makes you stop and say, okay,

458
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Speaker 2: I'm listening, what's going on. I'm really really curious. When

459
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: was your very first BEET Awards, your very first live

460
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Speaker 2: BT Award that you actually produced.

461
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: The twentieth anniversary of BET. Jamie Fox was the host,

462
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Speaker 1: and then that was the pilot for the first BET Awards.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh so you okay, So what year was that?

464
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: Twenty or twenty? That was twenty. I think it was

465
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Speaker 1: twenty six years ago, because twenty fifth anniversary of the show.

466
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: So I did the twentieth anniversary of BET.

467
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: So I want to say nineteen ninety nine, two thousand,

468
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Speaker 2: maybe a two.

469
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Speaker 1: Thousand life something like that, something like that. And so

470
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Speaker 1: that was my first I went in to get the

471
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Speaker 1: writer job and I walked out writer and producer, how sir,

472
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Speaker 1: Because I was sitting there halfway through the meeting and

473
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Speaker 1: I realized that the producer, John Cassette, ma, may you

474
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Speaker 1: rest in peace, didn't really know be Et, you know.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, Cosat Productions produced the Grammys.

476
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Speaker 1: They are the company that put the took the Grammys

477
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: from a dinner party to a television show. Originally it

478
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: was a dinner party and Pierre Cossette went to the Academy.

479
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: I was like, this should be on TV and they

480
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: were like, oh shit, it should be. And so when

481
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm in the meeting to write the big so Anyway,

482
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Bob Johnson called Cosat Productions. He saw the logo and

483
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Speaker 1: was like, I want you to do the twentieth Anniverse

484
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Street of Bet. They said yes, and then they were like,

485
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Speaker 1: we need black people. So then I went in to

486
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Speaker 1: be the writer. And as I'm talking to him about oh,

487
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: you got to do video Soul and you got to

488
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Speaker 1: make sure that this and that and rap City and

489
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Speaker 1: I'm going through all the things teen Summit that were BET.

490
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Speaker 1: At that point I realized that he didn't catch any

491
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Speaker 1: of these things. But he was like yeah, yeah, yeah.

492
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and you should make me

493
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: a producer too, and he laughed and he said why.

494
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I said, well, I know Snoop and you can't do

495
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: the show without Snoop. I just made that shit, and

496
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: so he was he started laughing. He goes, well, we

497
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: are going to need Snoop, okay, And so they made

498
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Speaker 1: me a co producer. So that was my first producer credit.

499
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Speaker 1: I Snoop did the.

500
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Speaker 2: Show Graduate and you got Snoop to do the show

501
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 2: on top of that.

502
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: We did that was the Up and Snoop tour, so

503
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: we had Dre Snoop. Nobody knew Eminem like Cube like

504
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: everybody that was on that up and Smoke tour performed

505
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: and then eminem came out at the end.

506
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: Yo, this is a movie. This is a docuseries. I

507
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: hope as you document it while you don't like to

508
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: do interviews anymore, this is such a movie. This moment,

509
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: I'm watching you in real life as you tell the

510
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: story in the meeting, having the conversation, blowing them away,

511
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: and you've mentioned so many like these are what I

512
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: call luminary moments. For Beet, what was teen Summit to you?

513
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: If you had to describe teen Summit? Take you back

514
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: to that meeting? What does teen Summit mean for the culture?

515
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: And for Beet, I think teen Summit was. It's funny.

516
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: I was just watching Forever this weekend, mar Brockakeel's new show,

517
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: and it's like teen Summit was that for us back then,

518
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: because there was no Forever. There wasn't anything showing what

519
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: young black kids were going through socially and politically, and

520
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: just nothing. There was nothing. I mean, you had, you

521
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: had The Cosby Show, but that was a sitcom, so

522
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't like getting into the weeds of it. Teen

523
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Summit was that, you know, this is the era of

524
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: parents who really weren't like so tell me about your feelings,

525
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about Like then there was

526
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: none of that.

527
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 2: There was like goch clean room, nothing else matters.

528
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Do you choors, do you chores? Do you homework? Have

529
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: you asked in the house before the sun comes in?

530
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: And that's it for streetlight.

531
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Speaker 1: Yes, teen Summit was a place where you could discuss

532
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: that and see people talk about that and really like

533
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: think about what your point of view is on things

534
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: and make it make you understand that you're supposed to

535
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: have a point of view on things.

536
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no rumor today on teen somemmit, we've got

537
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: some great surprises.

538
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Coming your waist. Let's talk about the.

539
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: Controversy that recently happened in Florida.

540
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I believe with two Life Crew.

541
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: So that that, to me was what was important about

542
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: that show.

543
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Donnie Simpson hosted the Caribbean What is this the Vibe Show?

544
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Speaker 2: To help me with the name, there was like a

545
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: career Yes, okay, Donnie Simpson didn't hosta that. It was

546
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: with Rachel Caribbean Rhythms where they played Caribbean songs right

547
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: and videos of that nature like to me be Et

548
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: was so far ahead and with the culture at that time,

549
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: there's really nothing like that that where you gonna say,

550
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: this is what it's dedicated for. There's nothing. They had

551
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: be Et News with Jackie Reid, which was also just

552
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: signature programming for the culture. And to me, I you know,

553
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: I wonder, I always wonder, I wonder can we bring

554
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: all that back? Is there an audience for that? I,

555
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: especially in cable, Do you think there's still an audience

556
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: for those type of programs?

557
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: We absolutely, especially now as you talk about news, as

558
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: news has gotten so fragmented, you know, now more than ever,

559
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: we probably need and I think I think our voice,

560
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: need to see our voice and all the colors of

561
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: our voice. People think that we black people just think

562
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: in one bucket, and that is not the case anymore.

563
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: And so when you look at news in general, we

564
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of see like maybe we're one of four, and

565
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: we're one type of four, or maybe there's like and

566
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: then there's another black point of view, but it's still

567
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: one of four. You rarely get like the whole conversation

568
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: because our existence, I think, is getting more and more interesting, complicated,

569
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: all those types of things. So it needs to be

570
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: thoroughly discussed on a daily, on a daily basis, that

571
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Speaker 1: we are.

572
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I say that all the time, I think, and Jackie

573
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: hears this often because you know, I know where I

574
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: go that that was a time where I felt we

575
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: were represented and well informed in a way that mattered.

576
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: And now we have it in different spaces, especially like Look,

577
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: I do CNN, I have my podcast, I do all

578
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: of that, and I do believe that sports, culture, and

579
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: politics all intersects. But we do have such different and

580
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: varying opinions based on how we lived, how we grew up,

581
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: and it's never an I don't believe that the nuance

582
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: is there anymore because of the social media world that

583
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: we live in. And as we approach this new Beet show,

584
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: I've noticed every year that you produce it, you're able

585
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: to intersect all of those things and it's vital and

586
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: it's appointment viewing. Do you ever intentionally try to intersect

587
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: that with politics and sports and culture and social and

588
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: the new versus the old and make it wan and

589
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: make it make sense? Is that intentional as you put

590
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: the show and at things you put the show together.

591
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I think we do try to look at it

592
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: and say what's the balance and are we touching demos

593
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: and more importantly, are we touching everything that happened this

594
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: year and everything that's going on right now? And then

595
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: by default it becomes informational, It becomes educational without having

596
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: to say like and now here's a moment you know,

597
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to go like I'm thinking

598
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: it away in this movie. It's not like screaming message

599
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: at the.

600
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: End of the scene, right rights, but it.

601
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: Is like, you know, there's so much going on, and

602
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: I think we just really work hard to find ways,

603
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: whether it's who we honor, the scripts and presenters, the moments,

604
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: the performances, like how we try to touch everything even

605
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: if it's uh subtextually, which is you know, which is

606
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: the best way to do it?

607
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, you don't have to slap everybody over

608
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: head and say he lives on the nose. Here's the

609
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: message on the nose, like you know we like And

610
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: with that being said, okay, so two things that just

611
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: takes me to my next transition. But June ninth is

612
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: the BT Award show in Vegas or in Vegas, Great

613
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles.

614
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Know the Peacock, Theata.

615
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: The Peacock THEATA. Kevin Hard is the host.

616
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm hosting Coaches big As Nights to BET Awards. You

617
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: just make sure that you get there and you wear

618
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: a shirt that fits there.

619
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Do we have anybody and you do want to break

620
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: some news? Is there anybody else we need to be

621
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: paying attention to why we should be paying it? And

622
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: everyone usually everyone I told that I was interviewing you.

623
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Side note was like, why is it so early this year?

624
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that that?

625
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a that was a network thing

626
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: to move it up. I'm sure it's some kind of

627
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: scheduling thing that makes it make sense. Sure, listen, the

628
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: one thing that's going to be they got a lot

629
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: of talent that they're going to be announcing soon that

630
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: are amazing, The people, the the icon amazing. But the

631
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: other thing is, so this was all Kevin Hart. The

632
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: show is black tie, and so everybody is supposed to

633
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: be black tie, like I think Emmy's oscars. That's what

634
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be, and that's what it's going

635
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: to be. So I'm very curious, But coming off of

636
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: the met know, I feel confident people, it's gonna be dandy.

637
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing. But and it's funny because a

638
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: lot of like when we tell people that there's a

639
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: head tilt and then there's there's an excitement for it. Yeah,

640
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: so so it's gonna be a big show out it.

641
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: It always is. And the the the electricity in the

642
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: city days leading up to the award show is very special.

643
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: LA feels very special when that happens. And I you said,

644
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: you don't have to be always on the nose when

645
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: you're producing this. I have to go to your Super

646
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: Bowl shows. I just congratulations, like just that year, just

647
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: every year. I always get a surprise. It's always anticipatory.

648
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: It is always even in my world. You know, I

649
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: do my show, I'm like, who do you think is

650
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: gonna perform? Who do you think it's It's really it's

651
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: the show that people show up for. As you well know,

652
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: there's a game that's happening. That's fine, but then there's

653
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: also the show that we show up for. The game

654
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: was great. But when you gave us our West Coast tribute,

655
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: and obviously being born and raised in La, it was

656
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: it felt big, It felt special, it felt monumental, it

657
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: felt overdue, and then it also felt to me like, Wow,

658
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: what a what an honor to be a part of something,

659
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: And by that I mean just growing up listening to

660
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: West Coast Rap. Why I really identified with it, why

661
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: it made sense, why it felt like home. You were

662
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: able to really encapsulate all of that in that show.

663
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: And then there was the entertainment of it all, Like

664
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: you don't know what the memes are going to be.

665
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: You don't know that everybody thinks fifty gain too much

666
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: weight and he upside down like that. You don't know that.

667
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, why is he doing these things? Why is

668
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: fifty still so big? Why?

669
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: What?

670
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Who swallowed fifty? You didn't know that that was gonna happen.

671
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: You had no idea, did you.

672
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: No? But you know, don't should get credit for hanging

673
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: upside down? You know that's the thing. That was the thing,

674
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: and he was game for it from the beginning. The

675
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: first zoom, I was like, you know, we kind of

676
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: want you to hang upside down.

677
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: You wait a second, Jesse, that was your choice. Tell

678
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: me why why him in that way?

679
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: Because that's the record, think about the video.

680
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: I yeah, but you saw him beforehand, No.

681
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I had total faith he could do it.

682
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: He did it in every rehearsal. Now listen, I'm just

683
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: beating fool stiff killed it, that's all. I know.

684
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: He did a great job. But my best part is

685
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: that the man who teases everybody got teased. That's why

686
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: I love that that. That was just a joy for me.

687
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is so cute.

688
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he rolled with it too. You know, it was

689
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: all history.

690
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break because we have to

691
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: pay some bills. We'll be right back in just a

692
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: few moments. When you're watching this in the control room,

693
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: are you understanding what's happening? Is it a is it?

694
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: Or are you not? Because when I'm working, I'm working,

695
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's happening. Were you aware special it was?

696
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: I know you saw or I think the emotional moment

697
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: for us came in rehearsal, and then when it was

698
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: game day, it was game day. It was just like

699
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: in rehearsals seeing all of those artists work together, see

700
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: it all come together. I'm thinking of ninety four, you know,

701
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: meet you Snoop and Dre and like seeing the ninety

702
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: four version of them and now where they where they

703
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: were in that moment and having that conversation of like,

704
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, how how this even happened? Would this ever happen?

705
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: You know? It was it was. It was unbelievable. It

706
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: was unbelievable to be there for that I knew. And

707
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: that's when that's when it was like emotional. I had

708
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: that conversation with Snoop about like, did you ever think

709
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: that just because you have to look at it this way.

710
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: Remember in ninety four, you know, the government was, you know,

711
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: like Gore, like it was about hitting Snoop and Dre

712
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: off the radio they were destroying. It was all it

713
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: was all bad. It was all bad, right, and you

714
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: have to think about what halftime shows were then. So

715
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: now fast forward to that moment Jay Z makes the decision,

716
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: makes it all West Coast performance with Dray and Snoop

717
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: and Mary and em and so it's not always but

718
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like in fifty like for

719
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Jay to make that decision and have the power to

720
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: make that decision at the NFL, and then Drey to

721
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: pull all these people together and then everybody to do

722
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: this performance and at the time, it's the most watched

723
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime show in the history and the only

724
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: one to ever win an Emmy. Todate.

725
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: That's congratulations, by the way. Congratulations. By the way, look

726
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: at that humble brag. The only Super Bowl halftime show

727
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: to win an Emmy to date was done by my

728
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: friend Jesse Collins. Congratulations. Just let that else.

729
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: You know. It was the first one there on game day,

730
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: Snoop Doggie dog I bet professional, like nine thirty in

731
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: the morning. He was there, professional, ready to go.

732
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: He understood the moment. He understood the moment, like he

733
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: knew this was massive. Then we have Rihanna, you come back.

734
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: You have Rihanna, and it's like we haven't seen her,

735
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: and everyone's waiting and we can't believe. And what is

736
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: she going to start with? And is she bringing anybody out?

737
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: And not only does she bring somebody out, she brought

738
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: out the most precious gifts you can ever bring out.

739
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: She brought out a baby. She was like, hey, y'all,

740
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: guess what. Guess what? Like another iconic moment in the

741
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: books for us in music. And then I just want

742
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: to fast work because we got to wrap. But I

743
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: want to fast forward to last year. I was at

744
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I was in the suite and I

745
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: was watching and my mouth was just open. It was

746
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: surprise after surprise after surprise. It was storytelling at its height,

747
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: and I was just like WHOA. I was like, I'm

748
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: going to go back and watch this twenty times so

749
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: I can really understand what this means. I was so proud,

750
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: like it was because it was for us. And I wonder,

751
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: when you think about that performance, and I know you

752
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: say it's in rehearsal when you understand the gravity of it,

753
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: but when you found out the current administration would be attending,

754
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts?

755
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, when I found out that the administration was attending,

756
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I got into like, okay, how does that affect us?

757
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: How do we move? Are they shutting down the tusawit?

758
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, they shut the tunnels down? Like I'm like, gosh,

759
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: this just got harder. I knew the show was going

760
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: to be the show, and I knew the show was

761
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: going to like I said it. I remember, I thought,

762
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: right when I really knew what the creative was, I

763
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: was like, this is going to be the highest rated,

764
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: but more also like the most meaned the most active

765
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: on social media because there were just so many elements

766
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: for the culture to go crazy on. And so when

767
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: I heard that the administrator's going to be there. I

768
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we got a lot to get

769
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: on and a lot to get off, and I really

770
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: hope that this isn't going to affect it. And I

771
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: think the NFL did a great job of managing everything

772
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: so that we were able to do the show without

773
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: adjusting it at all.

774
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting at. It stayed true to the

775
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: message and it wasn't so obvious, but the message was clear.

776
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: And did you feel or did Kendrick feel like, should

777
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: we alter our message or stay on course?

778
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Now? I never heard not one possible thing of altering

779
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: not one element of it, regardless of who was going

780
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: to be there. I mean, that's just not what That's

781
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: not how Rock Nations built, That's not how Kendrick is built.

782
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: That's not how we're built. Like we are like this

783
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: is the creative vision, and everybody lines up and we

784
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: we do everything we can to make it happen. And

785
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I would say, also, the NFL was from day one

786
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: like they loved it and this is what this is

787
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: what we're doing.

788
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Surprising, that's great.

789
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, those everybody can watch it.

790
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, let's go and let's go now. I also heard.

791
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: You can sift through the if you know this is

792
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: true that there was a hint that you all knew

793
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: in fact that he that that the president would come,

794
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: and that's why the message was so still very clear.

795
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: Is that true.

796
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I didn't find out that the president was coming until

797
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe two days three days before. Okay,

798
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: so we was locked and loaded and it wasn't it.

799
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: Was just can walk it.

800
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: It was it was the same show that it was

801
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: over Christmas when we were you know, during rehearsals in

802
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.

803
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: You have a staff I believe of twenty eight maybe

804
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: a little more. How do you all do all the

805
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: shows consistently, all the time with excellence.

806
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody's in here just grinding. It's like, you know,

807
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: Deon Harmon's our president, She's deep into everything. Madison Merritt

808
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: with our unscripted shows, Janey Roseanne Clay with the specials,

809
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: and Sam Klin we got some scripted things. Varnel Hill

810
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: coming with Martin Lawrence, who are very excited, and it's

811
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: like we're just we're all just all working together to

812
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: make this, to make this thing work. You know, we

813
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: all got bills, bills, we all got bills. We all

814
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: got bills.

815
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Last, but not least. I read in a Variety article

816
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: that you said you love to work. Yes, this is

817
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: a booming season and a booming time for you, but

818
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: you love to work. And just based on your reputation, God,

819
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: you have the personality for this. I mv your personality.

820
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: I am be how easy you are because you always

821
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: know that at the end of the day, you're going

822
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: to bring yourself. And there are so many of us

823
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: in different spaces in front of the cameras, behind the scenes.

824
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: We want to make sure that we stay even and

825
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: balance so that we can continue to do what we

826
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: love and still be in service. What is it about

827
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: you that loves to work so much? Is it the

828
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: idea that perhaps maybe it'll go away, or is it

829
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: the ideas that you want so much more? And so

830
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: you're going to try new things and do new.

831
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: Things, trying new things, and like the fear thing was

832
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: an earlier thing, and I've like a lot of therapy,

833
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I've worked my way out of the fear of it

834
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: all and gotten into like wanting to be a part

835
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: of history, wanting to build build this thing out. And

836
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: I also love being a part of other others like Rise,

837
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: like just thinking about Kendrick. I mean I've known day

838
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Free for just the beginning of Kendrick, Him and Kendrick

839
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: since the beginning of like first TV thing on like

840
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: the Hip Hop Awards or something, and I've watched them

841
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: from bet Awards to Grammys to now this and with

842
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Mike Carson, I've watched them become like some of the

843
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: best to ever do it. And just watching that as

844
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: has just been like a joy. And so that's work,

845
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: being around younger people that are just taking the torch

846
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: and really doing incredible things. And any chance I can

847
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: do that, I'm all the way into.

848
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: All right, I am so impressed by you. I thank

849
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: you for being the same as from the day we

850
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: met to now. I only wish you nothing but the best, not.

851
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: The chance that no, since that's soho has breakfast.

852
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, give me a job, which cool dude still to

853
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: this day, Give me a job, Jesse, give me a chop.

854
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: And we won't get We're gonna get something. This hard

855
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: to get you though you're never available.

856
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's not true, you know, you know. Listen that

857
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: one last show we were working on who Shall Not

858
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: be Mentioned, that you that we auditioned for. I was like,

859
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but okay, go ahead and do that.

860
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: Then let me go talk. Let me stop being so

861
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: shady on camera. No, but no, honestly, the time will come,

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Speaker 2: it will make perfect sense. I'm gonna text you about

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Speaker 2: something right now. You are amazing BT Awards June night.

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Speaker 2: If you guys check it out. Jesse, tell me who

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Speaker 2: will be honored this year at the BT Awards. Some

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Speaker 2: of the icons.

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Speaker 1: So the icons are amazing, we're checking incredible boxes. First

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Speaker 1: one is Jamie Fox. The tribute to Jamie's gonna be insane.

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Speaker 1: Mariah Carey is gonna be amazing performance, like unbelievable for you,

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Speaker 1: the West Coast Snoop Dogg. And then we're gonna close

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Speaker 1: with God's Boy Kirk Franklin, so we'll be getting honored

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Speaker 1: as well. So it's like a great mix of people.

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Speaker 1: They're all legends, they are all icons, and they all

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Speaker 1: deserve their flowers, and we are so excited to celebrate them.

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Speaker 2: We do know is that it's black tie, and so

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Speaker 2: they go show up right off the heels of the

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Speaker 2: meg Gala. Everybody's gonna be dandy, is what you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna be dandy.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that is breaking news. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: tune in, Like, let me just see okay, just see

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Speaker 1: what everybody listen.

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Speaker 2: We always I'm on the red carpet.

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Speaker 1: We always.

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Speaker 2: We know, we know how to show up. I have

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Speaker 2: a feeling that that folks will be best dressed better

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Speaker 2: than they were than the meg Gala because we show

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Speaker 2: up and show out when it's like time time. Absolutely, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we show up, we show out.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be a movie. It's gonna be a movie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love it so much. Thank you for being

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Speaker 2: so generous. I am, and everyone make sure you tune

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Speaker 2: in and support our good friend Jesse Collins and everything

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Speaker 2: that he's doing over there, Jesse Collins Entertainment. You are

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Speaker 2: a true, true treasure. I am in awe and I'm

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Speaker 2: only wishing you nothing but the best good people deserve

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Speaker 2: to win.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it all right, talk to you later.

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Speaker 2: Naked Sports written and executive produced by me Kerrie Champion,

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Speaker 2: produced by Jacquees Thomas, sound designed and mastered by Dwayne Crawford.

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Speaker 2: Naked Sports is a part of the Black Effect podcast

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