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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's the j n V. Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave,

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Speaker 1: so Laura l Rossa is filling in, and we got

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Speaker 1: a special guest in the building, the Icon Living. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Miss Erica, bad dude, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Peace, Peace, peace, How you feeling exquisite?

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Speaker 2: There you go?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well, I don't know if you know this.

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Speaker 1: Last time you were in here, the art wasn't up,

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Speaker 1: but you see the art now.

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Speaker 2: And look how you sent it though. You got Queen

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Speaker 2: Mother blessing the whole room.

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Speaker 3: I got to pull out the pussy in.

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Speaker 4: You got bo, you got the incense, I got it.

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Speaker 4: I've been burning.

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Speaker 5: I've been burning an incense since you dropped them. I

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Speaker 5: saw y'all two together at the awards.

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Speaker 2: Yes, congratulations on that too. Congratulations on receiving the cf

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Speaker 2: D A Fashion Icon Award.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very very much.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what that means, but I feel

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Speaker 2: like you deserve all the awards.

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Speaker 3: Congrat they say, I found out it's the Oscar of

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Speaker 3: fashion really, so that that award means a lot to

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Speaker 3: people in the fashion industry, and thank you, sir, and

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Speaker 3: to us as artists as well, you know, creators who

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Speaker 3: are I love it as well, trying to you know,

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Speaker 3: evolve our our culture, you know, so that means a

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Speaker 3: lot to be recognized.

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Speaker 2: It's always felt like you had an effortless style. Do

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Speaker 2: you really put a lot of thought.

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Speaker 3: In how you how you d sometimes? Okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: sometimes I do, and sometimes it's just grace it happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: You're not supposed to blow out instance, the old googles

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Speaker 3: don't like that?

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Speaker 6: Why you told me, I'm not But I'm not kidding, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to say it ain't on me.

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Speaker 2: We got so much of this sit the house. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you first put it out a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: After that, now you said that during your speech that

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Speaker 1: this was an award that you wanted for a long time?

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Speaker 1: Was true that long after?

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Speaker 3: Since? You know, I didn't even know that you could

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Speaker 3: get an award for that, but just wanted to be

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Speaker 3: recognized for the canvas that I create. When I go out, man,

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Speaker 3: it's really important to me. It's my therapy. You know,

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Speaker 3: I can't leave without half of mind. Like I said

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Speaker 3: in the speech, shit together. You know, it's just something

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Speaker 3: that came with my head. You know, it's a nagging thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, make sure you shit it together. And sometimes

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Speaker 3: when I don't try, it really hard and sometimes gracefully

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Speaker 3: comes together. I guess maybe because of my intention, the

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Speaker 3: fashion gods gave me the keys out here in these streets.

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Speaker 2: We get it from your mom and grandma.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely cold right. They used to call her Twiggy

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Speaker 3: in high school after the model because she was just

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Speaker 3: so original and she had bleached her hair white. She's

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Speaker 3: a really skinny kid with big eyes. It's really creative.

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Speaker 1: And how difficult is it for you to have so

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Speaker 1: much of a fashion sense?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because you travel a lot. How much luggage do you

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Speaker 1: have to carry? How much do you go shopping? I

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Speaker 1: know that's what I'm saying. You carry a lot of

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Speaker 1: freaking lug Like her luggage has her own bus.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll explain that when you're your own stylist and

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Speaker 3: your own makeup person and your own hair person. And

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Speaker 3: then I do the band's wardrobe, and you know, they're

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Speaker 3: just instruments and all kinds of things. So I'll carry

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Speaker 3: a production so I like to see the vision all

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Speaker 3: the way through and have my hands in it. There's

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Speaker 3: a word for that, an artist who has their hands

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Speaker 3: in every aspect of the work of the vision. It's

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Speaker 3: they have the ability to do that.

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Speaker 2: So you write a song and you know what the

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Speaker 2: video gonna look like, You know what you're gonna well

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Speaker 2: you okay, Wow.

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Speaker 5: You talked last night about your best friend who accompanied

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Speaker 5: you to a lot of the fashion houses and stuff

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Speaker 5: like that. Were fashion house houses always like open and

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Speaker 5: like rushing to support you in all of your creative

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Speaker 1: You know it was.

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Speaker 3: I was out since nineteen ninety seven, and social media

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Speaker 3: was really the opening to a lot of these relationships

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Speaker 3: because they could now directly get to the artists where

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Speaker 3: they probably didn't know how to get to the ones

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Speaker 3: that they wanted to feature before. But the first person

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Speaker 3: that reached out to me was Tom Ford. Tom Ford

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Speaker 3: wanted me to do a perfume at White Patuli, which

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Speaker 3: was his natural innocense flavors. This was two thousand and two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's tom Ford and tom Ford's from Texas as well,

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Speaker 3: so we kind of formed a bond. And I guess

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Speaker 3: as I evolved my style other houses or artists, because

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Speaker 3: it's really the creative directors the person he is the

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Speaker 3: and that was my first full campaign and he let

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Speaker 3: I think it just after that I was kind of,

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Speaker 3: Definitely the page to go to if you want to

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Speaker 5: You pick, Like last night you were in Tom Brown

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Speaker 5: or the other day at the CFDA Wards you were

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Speaker 5: in Tom Brown, how do you pick which designers in

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Speaker 5: which houses now you want to work with?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm sure they're all banging. You can do anything

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Speaker 3: And I picked Tom specifically for this event because he's

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Speaker 3: the chairman of the event. Yes, and he's he's also

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Speaker 3: a very very good friend of mine and his art

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Speaker 3: is just so amazing. So I thought, since I was

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Speaker 3: and a really beautiful architectural shape, really pretty. And I said,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I saw this AI. I think he

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Speaker 3: saw this post this morning. I'm not sure, but I

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Speaker 3: this is really beautiful. I would love to challenge a

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Speaker 3: So I called a friend, Chris Habana, who does a

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Speaker 3: and he had three days, and he pulled the team

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Speaker 1: What do you call it, some renderings?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did some put it in a machine. It's plastic.

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Speaker 3: You can make a gun with it, you can make

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Speaker 3: a house, right, Yeah. They did some three D printing

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Speaker 3: to try to really is it's amazing, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were at when you got

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Speaker 2: the call that you was getting the c FDA.

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Speaker 3: I was at home, h and my agency, uh Forward

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Speaker 3: forwarded me the email. I was like, wow, okay, it's good. Good,

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Speaker 3: that's good stuff. That's good.

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Speaker 2: Did you immediately know what you was going with? Did

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? Okay, absolutely not. This thing was three weeks away. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know I was gonna wear it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You've done capsules before with people and collaborated.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about just you trying to talk

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Speaker 2: low and soft just because everybody you don't even talk

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Speaker 4: You know, calm down every time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was an ass.

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Speaker 4: You know, I will never blow the incident again either.

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Speaker 1: When it comes. You ever thought about doing your whole line,

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Speaker 1: like a full clothing line for America? I do from

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Speaker 3: Between, and I have thought about that. I had a

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Speaker 3: chance to practice that with Marnie and French Francesco Riso.

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Speaker 3: Uh we did a collapse Marnie and last year a

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Speaker 3: lot of things happened for me in fashion last year,

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Speaker 3: you know, there was the last two years. It was

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Speaker 3: my first fashion week. So that's when I really started

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Speaker 5: The collab was everywhere. It was, Yes, everybody was in

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Speaker 5: y'all collab in Marnie. That was your first fashion week? Yes,

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Speaker 5: like you attending or like what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 3: It was my first fashion week in twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 5: Yeah wow, And that was so during that time that

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Speaker 5: collab is now two? Is that collab the collab when

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Speaker 5: you got to work with your daughter Puma two with

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Speaker 5: Marnie or was it a difference?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Okay, yes, And how did that feel because it's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: like you know, but like this is your lane and

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Speaker 5: now your daughter's coming into it and y'all are working

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Speaker 4: How did you feel just doing that with her?

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Speaker 3: Oh? It was surreal. It was a dream, you know,

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Speaker 3: because Puma is such an individual person that I didn't

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Speaker 3: still don't. You know, she's she's twenty, so she's kind

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Speaker 3: of finding her way. And sometimes when your kid is

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Speaker 3: want to find their own thing, you know. But she

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Speaker 3: was cool with supporting me and standing beside me, and

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Speaker 3: she's like, Mom, I don't care, this is for you,

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Speaker 3: you know, So.

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Speaker 1: Dress if they tried, like what happened with the line?

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Speaker 3: Because you what they got to do with what we're

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Speaker 3: talking about?

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Speaker 2: Because even I feel like I feel like, I feel

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Speaker 2: like everything you do is spirit art, even down in

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Speaker 2: your fashion. So I don't know if you don't embody

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Speaker 2: that spirit, I don't even know how that would even.

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Speaker 3: Man, you are such a wise person, you really are.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I met you. You tap into things so well, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I approach everything the same way. It's a feeling I feel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So would you do your own line? Do

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Speaker 1: you want to do your line. I know that's not

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Speaker 1: something that's in your cost right now.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, would you have the time for it? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would make time.

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Speaker 4: This is my last fashion question.

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Speaker 2: Fashion awards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like if it's eating if it's

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Speaker 3: ah kindness. Kindness seems kind of boring to people, you

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Speaker 1: Does that make you hesitant to release music? No?

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Speaker 2: Not me, But you haven't dropped in fourteen years?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen years, fifteen, I can make you put your phone down, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Only put out albums when I have something to say.

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Speaker 3: But I'm I am. I have more than enough space

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just love to see the like the

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Speaker 3: M hmm, me too. I mean I'm writing right now.

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Speaker 2: Out soon, a full album.

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Speaker 3: But I can't tell y'all.

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Speaker 4: How soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an important one. It's a collapse album.

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Speaker 4: You can Andre three thousand again.

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Speaker 5: I say, is this gonna be the colab album that

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Speaker 2: And your best friend. You got to talk to people.

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Speaker 3: what I was doing in the past as an artist.

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Speaker 1: When did you realize that you didn't say that you

443
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck. Can you say You're going to

444
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: do what you want to do. You're going to put

445
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: out what you want to put out. You don't necessarily

446
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: have to fit in the box of every artist. You

447
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: don't have to follow the platform and say this is it,

448
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: taken leave it?

449
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: When did you get to that point in the contract

450
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: negotiation in nineteen ninety seven? It was never a felim

451
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean I didn't have to do it,

452
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: you know, and they didn't have to.

453
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 6: You know.

454
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: I figured it was a partnership and I was doing

455
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: the record label of Favor. I knew who I was,

456
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: I knew what I was getting ready to do. I

457
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: had a mission, and nothing was going to infiltrate it,

458
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: not even my own fear and doubts, and I'm still

459
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: on mission. Best work is still in me and I

460
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: have not accomplished whatever that is yet, because there's still

461
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: this feeling of abuse and greenness and gross.

462
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: When did you realize it was on divine assignment in

463
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: your life?

464
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 3: Little?

465
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

466
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: I always thought I was very very special, very annoyingted

467
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: or a narcissistic one because I just believed it. I

468
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: always have. Nobody can tell me that that it's not true.

469
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: That I have a mission and I am. I am annointed,

470
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: and I am special and I am blessed. And that's

471
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 3: why I choose service over anything, because I know things.

472
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: Some things come easier to me than they will to

473
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: someone else. So I already know.

474
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Speaker 1: When you look at other artists without saying names, do

475
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: you see it in them like they're selling themselves out?

476
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: I know they're different. Do you see that? And a

477
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: lot of artists like they're selling themselves out for a

478
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: check or selling themselves out for a label where you

479
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: see they can go something different? Do you see that

480
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot?

481
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: And be I don't know, I don't ever look at that, Yeah,

482
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: selling themselves out for I don't know. People do what

483
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: they have to do. You know, and it's not a race.

484
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: We don't all have to be at the same understanding

485
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: at the same time. You know, everybody, our artists don't

486
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: have to be responsible for your kids, you know. Yeah,

487
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 3: so I don't know. I mean people doing what they

488
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: have to do. I remember needing money too and doing things.

489
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: It's strange things with a piece of change, you know,

490
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: like performing and venues I didn't want to perform in

491
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: or h Yeah, so I don't know. I can't judge that.

492
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: But what do you think about that?

493
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I think sometimes they got to realize their assignment. And

494
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: I think we all go through that sometimes realize while

495
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: we're there, you know. And what made me think about

496
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: it is, you know, when j Cole jumped into that beef,

497
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: he came back and said this is not for me,

498
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: and you know, people ished on them and said this,

499
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: that and the other. But that was his assignment and

500
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: you can't be mad as assignment, and even me as

501
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: a fan, was kind of he was on a mission.

502
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: Realize.

503
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: I understand that sometimes I believe that, you know, being

504
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: a mission or your assignment is not always to do

505
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: something heavenly and great and good. Sometimes it's to create

506
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: some chaos so that you may shake things up. Fertilizer

507
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: is put into a pot to disturb the roots. It's

508
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: poisoning them so they have to move. So yeah, I

509
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: can't really judge it. You don't know what somebody's mission

510
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: is because it all counts, it's all.

511
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: Matter, and you don't know what journey God got them

512
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: more you don't. You don't get Michael Max without Malcolm Little.

513
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: That's right. You don't get eric about without I'm trying

514
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: to think it was.

515
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: Street name.

516
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: You don't get eric about without butchery knife Betty, that's

517
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: my new monarcha.

518
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Everybody, when when you said that you was, you knew

519
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: you was of service. Did you know what that was

520
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: going to look like? Did you know it was gonna

521
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: be music?

522
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: Actually I did not, But I don't consider that the service.

523
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: I consider music my privilege because I'm using the audience

524
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: as therapists, a thousand million therapists to get my idea

525
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: of my thing out. Services are the things that I

526
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: don't charge money for that I do because I feel

527
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: like it's the right thing, not because of a promise

528
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: of heaven or or accolades or trophy, just but because

529
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: of integrity and the connection between two people. And when

530
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: people hear this, they don't believe that that nobody believes that.

531
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: It's so strange to me that people don't believe that

532
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: that kind of human can't exist, you know, they don't

533
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: believe it. Maybe it's strange. Is it strange that I

534
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: don't need anything back or I don't ask for anything

535
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: when I pray? Is it strange?

536
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so, no, because I think, to me,

537
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: prayer is for gratitude. I find myself when I'm praying,

538
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying thank you. And I guess coming from

539
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: where I come from, a dirt road and most going

540
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: to South Carolina, I'm always felt good. I feel like

541
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: whatever God has given me in that moment is what

542
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have, and I'm grateful for that.

543
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: It seems like it's becoming more of a general consensus

544
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: that we don't need anything. We're realizing that that we

545
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: don't need anything, and the biggest gift we probably need

546
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: is peace of mind, you know. And I'm rewarded with

547
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: peace of mind when I do service for others for free,

548
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: for nothing, just because right there too, peace of mind.

549
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: That's what we just what the green juice for what

550
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: the your goo force, what the music is for, with

551
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: the singing is for, the money is for bitchess is full. Yeah,

552
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: one point to kids and husband and house and cars

553
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: for we all looking for peace of mind and that's

554
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: how I get mine the most service.

555
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Do people take advantage of that though? Sometimes?

556
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, but that's none of my business.

557
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 5: Absolutely, were there points, like bag Lady, I was saying

558
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: earlier in the room that I remember when bag Lady

559
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: for me started hitting differently and I was listening to

560
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: it and it was like, Ooh, I get it now.

561
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 5: When I was younger, I was just listening to it

562
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: because it was played in my house and I loved

563
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: the song. But I literally remember that feeling for you,

564
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: were there points in your life where you had to

565
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: be like, ooh, I get it, like I felt it

566
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: bag Lady, or like was this song of service.

567
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: For someone else?

568
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: You mean feeling my own song?

569
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: You're feeling your just even before Bad Lady was created. Yeah,

570
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 5: maybe there was a time in your life that you know,

571
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 5: created or inspired the song. When did you get out

572
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 5: of the bag Lady phase? And what did that feel

573
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: like for you?

574
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: She has a lot of baggage, so she's trying to

575
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: see if did you have too or was it just

576
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: a song.

577
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is what I realized is number one.

578
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: With my mom, I always I never understood why she

579
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: couldn't be happy about certain things. And then I got

580
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 5: older and I'm like, man, you're carrying so much stuff.

581
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 5: I tell all the time, like just let that go,

582
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: like we can handle that.

583
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: Men have told Lauren that she need doing this with

584
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: a couple of men did that to Lauren. They said,

585
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: to spend the block what you need to heal, You

586
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: need to work on yourself.

587
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: Who said this first? Of all?

588
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: The two people that said it to me, they ain't

589
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: even They probably can't even spell hells.

590
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: So so what y'all think about the two guys, I

591
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: think they're right on the journey. She's on the journey.

592
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: And the two men that you respect, one of them

593
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: I respect, told you that you need to work on yourself. Yes,

594
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: as an insult or as an encouragement and love.

595
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: The second one I think it was insult and deflecting.

596
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: The first one.

597
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first one I think it was like he

598
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 5: really cares, Like that's why when he said it, I

599
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, I hear it. I'm in a point

600
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: in my life now where I can do the accountability.

601
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: Does he need to work on himself as well?

602
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: Yes he does?

603
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Does he know?

604
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: Yes he does?

605
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Okay, cool?

606
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: Second one really know, like it's you.

607
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Really know he got to work on himself.

608
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't even want nothing to do with that, like

609
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: it's bad.

610
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 5: But I asked that because I just feel like, as

611
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: I got older and realized how much you do care,

612
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: especially emotionally, sometimes it weighs into other things and it

613
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: closes doors, or it cuts off relationships, or you just

614
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: miss out on good things. And every time I listen

615
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: to that song, I'm like, man, how does she know

616
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: that people was going to need this?

617
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I was writing what I felt,

618
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: you know, in my heart, and you know I did

619
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: hear it later And I'm talking to myself, my future self.

620
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 5: Where were you at at that time of your life

621
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: when you were talking to your future self? Like, what

622
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: was the transition as you were.

623
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: Trying to make I think I was transitioning out of

624
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: a relationship where I was not happy about it. Yeah,

625
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: and realizing that I had to leave some things behind,

626
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: some parts of me behind. So it felt like a

627
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: funeral of sorts. Yeah, like because you have a party,

628
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: you have to die every time you evolve, you got

629
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: to leave it back there. You know, you want it

630
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: because it's familiar, and a lot of times we like

631
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: to resort to the familiar, even if it's toxic. Yeah,

632
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: So you have to leave it. That corpse, that beautiful

633
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: old you has to be left, and you have to

634
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: walk forward and I look back. That's the hardest part,

635
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: not leaving the people, but it's leaving your own ways

636
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: and you.

637
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about of discipline.

638
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: It is.

639
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: It is when did you get to the point where

640
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: you knew you you had? When did you get to

641
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: the point where you loved every version of yourself? Though?

642
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: H I don't know when that happened, but I definitely do.

643
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

644
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: I look forward to waking up and getting to do things,

645
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: getting to experience, getting to test out my kindness.

646
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 6: You know.

647
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: I prayed for kindness. I was like, I wanna practice kindness,

648
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: you know, my last big whatever meltdown we were going

649
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: through twenty twenty or somewhere, I just wanted to praxe kindness.

650
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: Two or three days later, I went to the airport.

651
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: My ticket was wrong, my bags got put somewhere else.

652
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 3: They were left on the tarmac of all bags mine.

653
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: The lady was talking to me crazy, asked me, h y,

654
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: this is first class. You can't put your you know

655
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: that whole routine. It was everything that was hard. M

656
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: So I was assuming that the creator was saying, we'll

657
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: here practice on this mm if you wanna practice kindness,

658
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: p here, I'll give you some things to practice some

659
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: because you just don't get to beat that.

660
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: How did that work out?

661
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: Worked out great?

662
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: Some parts from the last time. Mama wanted to pull out.

663
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: A gun at the airport, but I just settled for

664
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: having my fist balled up like Arthur. And yeah, I

665
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: got through it because I kind of it took me

666
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: a little bit to realize what was happening, Like wait

667
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: a minute, I see what I see what this is.

668
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: I see what that said, you know, And.

669
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see you getting outside of your vibe,

670
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: your zone.

671
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: What vibe do you think I got? I'm your tell

672
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: me about it.

673
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't. But every time I see you, you just

674
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: seen mellow chill and at peace. I don't.

675
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: This is the place to be mellow chilling, at peace.

676
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: There's no reason in here to be any other kind

677
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: of way. If anybody else comes on y'all show without this,

678
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: call me just shine.

679
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: A light on that.

680
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: You're also playing Lucille in the Netflix movie The Piano Lesson.

681
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Were you a fan of the play?

682
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: I went to as HBC Grammling State University. I was

683
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: a theater major. I was a despian, So we did

684
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: a lot of August Wilson material, Lorraine's Hands, Lorraine Hansbury,

685
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: h a myriad of black artists, play rights, but we

686
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: did do that play as well. And Lucille's part is

687
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: very tiny, you know. But the most important role I

688
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: played was composing music for the for the movie. Malcolm Washington,

689
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: who is Denzel's Sun, is directing, and he called me

690
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: and asked if I would uh put together some music

691
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: for it. And I call my very good friend Daniel Jones.

692
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: Got restless, so safe journey. Daniel Jones. He came and

693
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 3: put some beautiful pieces together nineteen thirties and I wrote

694
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: lyrics over them. Wow, and they're they're used in the

695
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 3: movie The Piano Lessons on Netflix.

696
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: So before we get this collaboration album, I think November eighth,

697
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: right eight, So before we get this collaboration album. We're

698
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: getting original music on this soundtrack.

699
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, nineteen twenties, thirties, so there's an acquired taste

700
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: period piece, period piece.

701
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: Does acting? Does acting feel like restricted? Does it feel

702
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: like it's restricting you in any way?

703
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: No, it just feels like work. Okay, yeah, my touring

704
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: and music doesn't feel like work. But acting does I

705
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: feel like work?

706
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: I can't even see you on the say it feel

707
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: like you know, you don't seem like the hurry up

708
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: and wait, like you want to be doing something like Hey, yeah.

709
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: I do, I al, I got something. I'm gonna bring

710
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: an easel and some pain. I'm you know, I really

711
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: miss my kids being little. That really took up a

712
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: lot of mind playtime. I just want to play all

713
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: the time, make something, play, do something, and I have

714
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: to carry everything with me to make that happen. Like

715
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: if I'm working on a movie set, because there are

716
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: long hours and I should be reading over my lines,

717
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: but I always wait and do it the last minute. Yeah,

718
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: but no, I don't really dig that too much being

719
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: an actor in a film. I like theater though. I

720
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: think that's a wonderful place. I like the immediate connection

721
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: between you.

722
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: And the artists, and you only get like one take

723
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: to do it when you're on that stage.

724
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, that's what's beautiful about it.

725
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, one stop, he's producing the piano lesson right. Yes,

726
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: was he involved late, he was.

727
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: Around, but he stepped back and let his children work.

728
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you learn from your children now now

729
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 2: that they're grown?

730
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: Oh, so many things. Like I told you guys, they

731
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: are definitely improvements on my design. Puma is at a

732
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: place now at twenty that I was thirty before I

733
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: was at her level of understanding and emotional intelligence and

734
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: compassion for people. Integrity, yeah, discipline, Yeah, I was still

735
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: a child kind of at twenty. I learned a lot

736
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: from them. And they aren't very judgmental, you know, so

737
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: they just kind of go along with whatever I do.

738
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 3: We never had rules. Who was just do what I say?

739
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: And they did that and watched me, you know, never

740
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: hid anything from them. So yeah, they're they're turning. They're

741
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: having their turn at showing me and teaching me patience

742
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: and severity. Mama, you gotta say what you feel, feel

743
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: what you say. Tell that that's that. That's the electronic

744
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: A little good mars. Yeah, they will, They'll tell me

745
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: it can only be so kind now that.

746
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: You know.

747
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: And our first favorite saying is a couplistic saying that

748
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: severity without mercy is cruelty. Mercy without severity, it's weakness.

749
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: So we try to walk that line. You know, kindness

750
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: isn't only being, you know, appearing nice. Kindness is all

751
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: also telling somebody to beat it, count yourself.

752
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: Because you still could you write a old to hip

753
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: hop now in twenty twenty four, like, based off this

754
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: era of music, would hip hop be the love of

755
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: your life? Right now?

756
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: It still is always you only have one love. You're

757
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: lucky just to have just one mm hm.

758
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: Uh one love, one love? Yeah, Wodini? Yeah?

759
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: And who did who did it? Over?

760
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: No?

761
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: No, yeah, boys, I'm saying, I'm saying, you know, y'all

762
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: looking to be like why you're asking that? That's that's

763
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: simple arithmetic. It was.

764
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how the relationship evolved or change because relationship and

765
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: hip hop?

766
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: It has not, because hip hop is still here. It's recorded.

767
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: You can never go away. Nobody can take it away.

768
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: It has been recorded in time. Hip hop will be televised.

769
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: It is down, it's I can access it at any

770
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: point in time, So it is there. Yeah, so I

771
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: feel the same way.

772
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 5: How do you feel about people having a conversation all

773
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: about it being like the third most popular genre behind

774
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: with Latin music, I think in country music, Like, how

775
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 5: do you feel about that?

776
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: Because I think, yes, hip hop at one point, go ahead.

777
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: No, it's not third is first. I'm talking about all

778
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: over the planet everywhere I go, Gossip, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Africa, Mexico,

779
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: everywhere I go, we are praying to different gods, different

780
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: names of God. But everybody is not in their heads

781
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: in agreeance to the one kicking the snare. It's hip

782
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: hop is like, it's the religion, it's how it's what

783
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: brings us all together, the whole world. Yeah, nah, hip

784
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: hop it's the biggest They know that. Oh they're talking about.

785
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Not cult yourself.

786
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but like culture wise, they wouldn't even be

787
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 5: able to understand it, to rink it.

788
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, what made J Dillers so brilliant were gonna

789
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: get you out of here?

790
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: His approach uh to music was authenticity. He was authentic.

791
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: That's what made him different. Uh. He had a metronome

792
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: and he was true to it. He did never used

793
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: the quantization button. He never quantized. It was always his

794
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: inner metronome. So the snares were live. Usually when when

795
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: we produce, we are using a kick in the snare

796
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: button and we push a button called quantize and it

797
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: puts it on the grid on the and the four.

798
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: So what's the same all the time.

799
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: Yes, which gives us a certain swing depending on what

800
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: what the feel you want. But Deyler's field was his

801
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: field because it was always live. So he would do

802
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: maybe a couple of quantized things, you know, he had

803
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: a little tricks here and there with the snares, but

804
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: for the most part he was very simple and unquantized.

805
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: So for four minutes he would actually play the beat

806
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: so the snares wouldn't necessarily be on them. Yeah, which

807
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: is amazing because it's feeling not not necessarily feeling all

808
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: the time.

809
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes he would just play the play the kick and

810
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: the snare alive, or play the kick and snare live

811
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: and do the high hats live, gotcha or the shakers

812
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: because those those are laying back, so his beat's laid back.

813
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain it, but he had

814
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: a laid back. He was on his own beat rhythm,

815
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: and he brought he brought all of us to that place. Yeah,

816
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 3: it was a certain hump that he had can't be explained.

817
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: But that's what made him so special, and his choices

818
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: and samples and his collection of music. Uh. He was

819
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: a historian. M hm. He was also very You have

820
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: to be mathematical. But I told stories before how when

821
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: I opened this refrigerator, all the coke cans will be

822
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: lined up like so symmetrically. I wouldn't want to get one,

823
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: you know. But I don't drink coke nowhere. But you know,

824
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: I have to make that clear. As you said, people crazy.

825
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I've seen the behive. The behive chased you a little

826
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: bit for a little bit.

827
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: Where's the behid now?

828
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: On Twitter?

829
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: I ain't seen to be yuh a long time. And

830
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: I love bees. They don't know I like it.

831
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 7: I love bees and my totalm Yeah lately though, mm hmm,

832
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 7: they're gonna tell.

833
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: Men see them tomorrow, see him tomorrow.

834
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: I like the tweet when you said, Jay, you're gonna

835
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: let this woman needs be something. Let this woman need be.

836
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't know why people think take things so serious.

837
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: It's just my sense of humor.

838
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: I love j When you saw the cover though, knowing

839
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: that there is the inspiration, like, does do those inspiration moments?

840
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: Are you feeling like, oh my god, they saw what

841
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: I was trying to do, they love it, they still

842
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 5: doing it? Or do you feel like, oh, that was mine? Like,

843
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 5: don't bite.

844
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: I have to be very careful with this because my children,

845
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: you're not watching me, and that generation is watching. And

846
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: as much as we love our art, it doesn't belong

847
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: to us once it goes out in the world. However, though,

848
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: you can't You can't manage what people are going to

849
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: do with the art. You can't manage whether they're going

850
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: to duplicate it or do another interpretation of it, or

851
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: just enjoy it or use it as an inspiration. You

852
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: can't manage that. But you don't have to remain silent

853
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, you can. If it makes you feel

854
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: the way, you should say something about it. Yeah.

855
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: But outside of that, there are a lot of artists

856
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: that get there. You can tell their style, their approach

857
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: everything from you and you do see that. Does that

858
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: bother you or do you look at it like I

859
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: put my art out there and it is what it is?

860
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: Or do you mind it all that they don't show

861
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: you respect and love and say what it came from here?

862
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: As I'm mature, more I have less of a need

863
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: two h own own something. And the more I let

864
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: go of it, the more I am acknowledged. Isn't that something? Yeah?

865
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: The more I let go of the need of that,

866
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: then you get a call and say, hey, we want

867
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: to give.

868
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: You an award.

869
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: That's how the universe works in my world. So I

870
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: saw that, and I was very proud of that award

871
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: and proud of that moment because I had let go

872
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: of some things that were no longer evolving me thinking

873
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, and then there it comes. They give it

874
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: to you because I became it, because they don't give

875
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: you what you want, to give.

876
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: You what you are.

877
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a ball. You heard that one.

878
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

879
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Speaker 2: My last question. I feel like everything you do is

880
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: spirit all. Like I said earlier, is it even possible

881
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: for you to do any type of art without divine

882
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: energy being involved?

883
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Even if I'm not aware of it,

884
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: it's always involved. Yeah, something there's something I know what

885
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 3: it is, but there's something we floating on that's giving

886
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: us life choices of some sort. Yeah, you know, we're born,

887
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: we're told you know, once we're born, you know that

888
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: our religion was here already. What we're supposed to believe

889
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: in the tribe, the ways, the hunting ways, the what

890
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 3: we worship, how we worship, how we learn, how we cook,

891
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: how we dress. There's a tribe and you learn that.

892
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: Hopefully you go outside of that once you are of

893
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: age to explore other things, because you want to see

894
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: if that is true. Yeah, then you explore even further.

895
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: You want to go outside of that and see how

896
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: you feel being entangled with another person, another human, and

897
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: then after.

898
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: That you go like entangled, entangled and entanglement.

899
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 3: Entanglement is when two cells meet and become something. Yeah,

900
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: so you become entangled with another human in the next

901
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: phase of your life. Then hopefully you learn that and

902
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: learn some boundaries. And then now you're an individual human

903
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: which creative in spirit, and then you have to learn

904
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: how to walk in that humanness, in that spiritualness. I

905
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: don't know what I was saying or how we got

906
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 3: to this, but because I asked.

907
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 2: You, is it possible for you to make art without

908
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: that divine in?

909
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: No, not for me.

910
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: Because I believe that. I believe that. Yeah, do you

911
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: think it's possible to do anything without.

912
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: Not anything meaningful?

913
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: Not anything meaning So you so you think or you

914
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: feel that there's an opposite of the BT.

915
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I feel like there's just I think

916
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: that you know, you have your divine and then you

917
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: just have your human right. So we're all spiritual beings

918
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: living in human existence. So you can do all types

919
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: of things in the human existence right, and you may

920
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: think they feel good in the moment, and they may just,

921
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: but it's not lasting, it's not fulfilling. You can you

922
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: know when you're doing something divine, you know when God is.

923
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, and you don't have to do much, it's

924
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 3: just your body feeling.

925
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 4: You just show up and do what you do, and

926
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: everything around you just move.

927
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: That's how music and performing is to me. It's the

928
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: only thing in my life that is like that. Yeah,

929
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: when I get up there, I'm not wrong, I'm not

930
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: too skinny, I'm not too ugly, I'm not too anything.

931
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: Everything is right.

932
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: You got some shows coming up.

933
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Maryland this weekend, Yes, d C First and second, Brazil

934
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: on the sixth, that's right in San Francisco on the sixteenth,

935
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: and also you can check out do worldmarket dot com

936
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: if you want to get all types of things like

937
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: the order.

938
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: There.

939
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: I know I've been waiting even we don't realize how

940
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: big the fan base is, the reach is, but it's amazing.

941
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: Because it's always so out.

942
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: I bought you guys from Funko. You do, y'all gotta

943
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: cut it open if you want to see it.

944
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

945
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 4: Oh, this is the figure that you've created.

946
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: This is the this is the Buncle Buncle pop is

947
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: just collected.

948
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Look at the email. Look at this afford this to

949
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: my wife. I like this. She sent me back this morning.

950
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: It's so cute.

951
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: Now we got one.

952
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: So they're pop culture Vinyl Toy Collective and and they

953
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: specialized in artists are icons.

954
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they specialized and not doing it.

955
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: You need to put a shelf up there.

956
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: You'll get it before okay, okay, And she's cute man.

957
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: Yes.

958
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: So this first one they did is the call Tyrone video,

959
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: so that we I actually reached out to Funko to

960
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: do this because I thought it was important for my

961
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 3: kids to have these. They love Funkos, and I surprised

962
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: them one day and said I have a funk go

963
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: so like your own funk you Yeah, yeah, you.

964
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: That's dope. Thank you again for joining us. We always

965
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

966
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I appreciate you too.

967
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: No, we do, definitely do.

968
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: We love you, value you, appreciate you. I literally just

969
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: told somebody last week, I said, I don't play about er.

970
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: Didn't have a conversation either or envy there you go

971
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: at all and I don't play about you.

972
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: Thank you.

973
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: And if something happened, you called me. I got you.

974
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you. Yeah, because may be acting up

975
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: in here. Honestly, that's not true.

976
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't believe it.

977
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: I might need to leave.

978
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Nothing like that. Don't do that.

979
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: It'd be hard.

980
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

981
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: It'd be tough.

982
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: He'd be tough, just like.

983
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Some incentse he'll calm down.

984
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 4: Now we got the puts in here. Maybe he'll relax.

985
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: Everybody. Everybody gonna relax, thank you. Yeah, within a thirty

986
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: miles ready, everybody, they're gonna be relaxed. I appreciate y'all

987
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: always porting me.

988
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Eric Abdu sister, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, thanks,

989
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.

990
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: The Breakfast clubh