1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: Oh here we go, Ready to roll. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: It is a Wednesday, Joel klad Mark Sanchez. We're live 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: in our snazzy new studio. We're in Los Angeles. It 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: is great to have you in today. We got all 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff, you know. Jerry Jones on Good Morning 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: America this morning. He is defending that trade of Micah 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: Parsons on every network that will have him on Jay mackin. 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff to talk about. One 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: of my favorite things came out in the Athletic. They've 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: done it two years in a row. I texted the 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: producer of the Morning at Fourfolded Coats. It's called the 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: NFL Hope oh meters. So they go and they do 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a survey. Second year for the Athletic they do a 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: survey with fans, how optimistic are you with your team? 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: So this is pre Micah trade. So Micah was still 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: a cowboy when they did this. So the teams at 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the top, they're loving life in Denver. You know it's 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Ravens, Lions, Bill's Rams, Chiefs. You would understand that 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the shocker is Look at the bottom, the least optimistic 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: teams Colts, Saints, Brown's Cowboys. Again, this is pre Micah 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Parsons trade. Second straight year, Dallas third from the bottom. 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: They have a franchise quarterback that it's at least B 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: to B plus, no state tax, free agents, decent weather, 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: great facilities, big time. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: Weappons third from the bottom. 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: That is a one hundred percent complete indictment of Jerry Jones. 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: That is an anti Jerry Jones vote. I started talking 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: about this three years ago. It maybe sounds cruel, a 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: little mean, but we got to keep it one hundred. 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: This has become old Al Davis with the Raiders. Jerry's 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: become old Al Davis with the Raiders. He keeps trying 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: to sell the fans something and they're not buying. And 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: what's amazing about this hopometer poll in the Athletic number 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: one Denver and not shocking. Twenty twenty two they got 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: a new owner. They were awful fans, Sean Payton, everybody. 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Now they're number one. They're above the Chiefs, Bills, Raven DRAMs. 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Also see where the commanders are. They flushed out awful 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder. They're a top ten optimism team. If you 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: don't think owners matter, you're not paying attention. Dallas is 49 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: in the same group as Cleveland, the Saints, the Jets, 50 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the Colts. These are teams that have chaos at quarterback. 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you the one thing because I watched 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: this documentary on Netflix with Jerry. He had a big ego. 53 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Then he's got a big ego. Now he was a 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: savvy businessman. Then he's a savvy businessman. Now. The difference 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: is when he took that job, he got the best 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: coach available on the market, Jimmy Johnson. Over the course 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: of time, as coaching has become more crucial than ever, 58 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: more important than ever, and there's more great young coaching. 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Jerry does not respect the profession. This is a quarterback 60 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: coach league, and he doesn't respect the position. Brian Schottennaimer 61 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: was on nobody's radar. I think the last time he 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: interviewed for a head coaching job was fourteen years ago. 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: He was considered an old school offensive guy. Nobody was 64 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: lined up for him forget head coach at coordinator. Maybe 65 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe he crushes it, but they could have 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: had Ben Johnson, Mike Rabel, Pete Carroll. I didn't even interview, 67 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: not even interested. So because I think Jerry looks at 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: it and thinks, I want to play with my toy. 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: And there's several things that have happened that the Cowboys 70 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: love the Cowboys. They over the last decade have more 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: starts from the players they've drafted than any other team. 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: They don't want outside influence. They want friends of the family. 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you notice it, they don't. It's very in slur. 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: This is what happened to the Lakers until they got 75 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: the new owner. And that will change. But and Jerry 76 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: is going on any network that will listen. And I 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: defended him on the Mica trade, but here he is 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: on Good Morning America defending the Micah deal. 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: We have two kinds of capital or currency in the NFL. 80 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: One of them is draft picks and the other is 81 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: the financial because every team is limited to the same 82 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: amount of resources to spend. And having said that, Mica 83 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: enabled us to have four, possibly as many as six 84 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: players for the future. That's a good trade when you 85 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: need numbers. I'll take the numbers every time. 86 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Now, I'll defend him on that. I would have done 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: it a year ago, but not right before the season. 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: But the Cowboy job should be like that line at 89 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Chick fil A or in an out burger. People should 90 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: be lined up around the block. If Ohio State or 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Penn State, Georgia have a job opening, here come the resumes. 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: The Yankees of the Dodgers have an opening. Here come 93 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the resumes. Kansas basketball Duke Carolina Yukon, Dallas Cowboys. Look 94 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: at who's applying for that thing. I mean, it is 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: that vote. The Cowboys are in the class of the Browns. 96 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: That is a one hundred percent anti Jerry vote. 97 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: So you know what we were saying that yesterday. 98 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: It's not that Bill Belichick lost to TCU, it's how 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: they lost. I turned it off mid third quarter. They 100 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: were cumiliated. They were bad at everything. After that first 101 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: opening drive, I think they went the next six drives, 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: didn't complete a pass. It was really bad. So you 103 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: think Bill's got his guys. Mike Rabel's one of his guys. 104 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: Right. 105 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Here's Vrabel on WEEI radio talking about Bill's opener with 106 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: the tar Heels. 107 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, you've coached in college. 108 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: It takes a while, don't you think to get a 109 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: program going in there like that? 110 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: I don't know everymer won twelve of the first twelve 111 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 5: games in Ohio States. It didn't take him long. 112 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: I'm just that's my experience college football. 113 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Ouch for the record. Lincoln Riley first year at Oklahoma 114 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: twelve wins. First year at USC eleven wins. And you 115 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: guys don't like Lincoln Riley Meyer. Remember he took over 116 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: for Ron Zook. It was a mess. First year nine 117 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: wins in the SEC at Ohio State twelve wins. Jim 118 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Harbaugh Michigan took over Brady Hoak, a disaster. 119 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: They didn't have. 120 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't getting guys drafted in the first 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: couple of rounds. 122 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Ten wins. 123 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I was there for the opener. Kurt Signetti at Indiana 124 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Basketball School year one, eleven wins. Sunny Dyke's TCU first 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: year thirteen wins. It's not like Carolina. I mean they 126 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: went to a bowl game last year. So, as I 127 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: said yesterday, I'm absolutely convinced the number one problem with 128 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: Belichick when it's coaching staffs or players, he just is 129 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: seeking comfort. He just wants to coach and work with 130 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: people that he's comfortable with. But the other thing I 131 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: think is interesting is like, if you're a great actor, 132 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: You're Tom Cruise, CARLN. Brando, You're Samuel L. Jackson, Anthony Hopkins, 133 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: whoever you are. If you have two or three duds 134 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: in your career, I do not hold it against you. 135 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: You're still a great artist. You're still a great actor. 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Right If you're you're a great athlete Michael Jordan and 137 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: it ends ugly with the Wizards, or your shack and 138 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: you bounce around the league, or you're Patrick Ewing and 139 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: it ends with a lot of turbulence and a lot 140 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: of losses, I don't hold it against you. It just 141 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: disappears into the ether. But I no longer can look 142 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: at Belichick the same because without Brady and Cleveland, without 143 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Brady in college, without Brady and New England, he won 144 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: forty four percent of his games, he averages nineteen points 145 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: a game. It would be as if Phil Jackson left 146 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Michael and could never win again. But Phil proved in 147 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Albany of the CEA Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson. If you 148 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: gave him the pieces, he would dominate the league. Wasn't 149 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: a great GM, he was older, whatever, some next, James Dolan, whatever. 150 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: But it is different like when it does in my opinion, 151 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: it does affect how I view Belichick. 152 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: I can't. 153 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I watched that nothing works. Nothing 154 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: worked early in New England, nothing worked late. I'm not 155 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: saying Belichick didn't help with Dante Skarnek. It didn't help 156 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Brady early, but by the end I felt like Belichick 157 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: was getting in the way of Brady. He got in 158 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: the way in that Super Bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles. 159 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Wouldn't play Darius Butler got in the way. Won that 160 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: did New England even punt in that game. He got 161 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: in the way with personnality, could not draft receivers or 162 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: tight ends or Pro bowlers offensively. I think he he 163 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: carried Tom in the first couple Super bowls last eight 164 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: ten years. I'll make the argument just as often felt 165 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: like he got in the way. And you can be 166 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: an actor, you can be an athlete, you can be 167 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: an artist, you can deliver clunkers. But there is something 168 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: about what I'm watching. It's got a Bobby Knightfield, the 169 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: late Bobby knight that so many people told Bill how 170 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: brilliant he was. He bought the sauce and I what 171 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: I watched the other night, Mike Frable, that's an ouch. Yeah, 172 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: urban Meyer went twelve to zero first year taking over 173 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: for a six and seventeen. That is a big Ouch's 174 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: that's keeping it. 175 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: One hundred j Mac. 176 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: There are all sorts of funny things in this hopometer poll. 177 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: Should I ask where the Jets were or not even 178 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: worth it? 179 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, my jets hope right now like eleven percent. 180 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't think there's I will say, big injury 181 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: this morning? 182 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Oh what was that? Dear Tucker significant army. He gets 183 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: hurt a lot. 184 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he has been a really good interior alignment, 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: but he has struggled with health. 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: We're not gonna be good this year. We by the way, 187 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 188 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: I you know, you've been very critical of Charles Barkley 189 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: through the years. Yeah, I mean you you you you've 190 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: been very critical of him. 191 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: This morning. 192 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: I'll take a shot because I don't. I don't buy 193 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: what he's selling me. I don't buy what Charles Barkley 194 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: on a podcast or something. 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The 213 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: fan base in the NFL that was the most optimistic. 214 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: Was not the Chiefs, Ravens or Bills or Eagles reliance. 215 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: It was the Denver Broncos. They are opening against the 216 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. It's in the Mile Haig City and Mark 217 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Sanchez is joining us. He'll be broadcasting the game. 218 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: Everybody talking. 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: We said this a couple times during preseason, is that Denver, 220 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: from the reporters who bounce around the league at camps unanimously, 221 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: had an amazing camp. And I want to ask you 222 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: about that, because you know the starters don't play as much. 223 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: They're seventeen games. You're not going to play veteran offensive 224 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: lineman does camp. Did you ever come out of a 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: camp and feel good or bad that it have a 226 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: direct launch on outcomes? 227 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 4: Oh? 228 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: I think it. Camp. You need it to one. Physically 229 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: harden the body. Oh you got to. You got to 230 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: take those blows. 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 7: You got to practice hard against other teams or against 232 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 7: your team, and truly scrimmage to get ready for week one, 233 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 7: just to get your body ready for what it's about 234 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 7: to endure. And then the mental side, it's lock in. 235 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 7: It's full focus. This is all we got, you know, 236 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 7: fifty three against the world. When we go on the road, 237 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 7: this is what we do. So I felt like you 238 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 7: needed to check that box, get over that hurdle, you know, 239 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 7: reach that wrung on the ladder, to feel like, okay, 240 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 7: it's time for Week one. And still in week one 241 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 7: we're gonna get unscouted. Looks we're gonna get way more 242 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 7: turnovers week one. Especially guys tackling full speed, tackling to 243 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 7: the ground. 244 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: People forget. 245 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 7: You know, guys are going to really try and knock 246 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 7: your head off and there goes to football. So I 247 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 7: think a lot of that has to do with how 248 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 7: your camp goes, how you approach it, and how you 249 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 7: come out of it hopeful, the injury free. 250 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Now I picked Denver to win their division. It's not 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: a knock year high on I am, but I don't 252 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: like the fact that Kansas City lost Tooney and as 253 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: a rookie left tackle, I think this division is going 254 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: to be twelve wins, eleven wins, ten wins, and I 255 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: think Denver bo Nick should be better. I think their 256 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is so trusted by those players in Denver. 257 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: They add who fun dream Law and they've had a 258 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: very good camp. Are we a little hot on Denver 259 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: because everybody loved their camp. 260 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 7: Well, it's hard for them to be this dark horse 261 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 7: sleeper pick because of all the positive pr this offseason. 262 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: They're not sneaking up on anybody. 263 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 7: And I think every you mentioned the division, every game 264 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 7: in that division is going to be a street fight. 265 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 7: I mean Pete Carroll in Vegas and Chip Kelly, they're 266 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 7: going to want to run the. 267 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: Ballids almost beat the Chiefs Plice. 268 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's going to be 269 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 7: a more physical division. What does Jim Harbaugh want to do? 270 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 7: He wants to run the ball, so as you know, 271 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 7: tough as this Denver defense wants to be. They're going 272 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 7: to show me through those division games and he can't 273 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 7: be too beat up from those division games to then 274 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 7: lay an egg in some non division games. But you 275 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 7: nailed it's it's the consistency that they got the coaching 276 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 7: staff and the players. They got sixteen offensive and defensive 277 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 7: lineman on the roster, fifteen of them were there together 278 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 7: last year. That kind of consistency, same coaches, same defense. 279 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 7: We're going to add two key veterans on defense, two 280 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: key veterans on offense. You mentioned the safety, bring him 281 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 7: over from San Francisco. Tough as nails. That guy's just 282 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 7: a heat seeking missile. And then you get Dre Greenlaw. 283 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 7: Similar type of mentality, similar type of play production. I mean, 284 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 7: that guy's an assassin, and then you go on offense, 285 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: it's JK. Dobbins and it's Evan Ingram the tight end. 286 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 7: So you get the running back and the tight end 287 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 7: to help out Courtland Sutton and your year two quarterback. 288 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: I think they've done a lot of the right things, 289 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 7: and the consistency is the key. 290 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, that data on the O and d Lineman 291 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: ch Oh, it's huge. I don't know if I've ever 292 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: heard of that. Listen one of the things we talked 293 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: about cam Ward, I don't remember a number one quarterback 294 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: pick that was more under the radar, just so quiet. 295 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, generally it's a hype fest, right we're still 296 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: talking about Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and Bo Nicks. 297 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: I like what I see of his leadership style. 298 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: We obviously he was a good college player, but I 299 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: just kind of love that nobody's talking about. 300 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 7: I think that's, you know, a luxury you have in 301 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 7: a market like Nashville, not the biggest market. Sure they 302 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 7: love their football, but it's not you know, New York. 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 7: It's not Chicago. It's just a different place to be 304 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 7: and you get a little more leniency. I guess we 305 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 7: could call it. And bottom line is he can spin 306 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 7: the ball. And you know, it didn't look perfect in preseason, 307 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 7: but I did see some flashes and that's kind of 308 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 7: what I want to see. I did see the pre 309 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 7: snap process that you want to pay attention to. Is 310 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 7: this too big for this guy? It sure doesn't seem 311 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: like it. You know, he doesn't seem panic a lot 312 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 7: like Jackson Dart, you know. And with the Giants, you 313 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 7: see some guys play their first couple game James and 314 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 7: it's a deer in headlights kind of deal. 315 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: So I think they like where they're at. 316 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 7: I just, you know, I'm curious about that offensive line 317 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 7: they're moving Latham. He was formerly at Alabama right tackle, 318 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 7: played the left tackles rookie year. Now he's going to 319 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 7: the right side where he wants to be. And then 320 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 7: Bill Callahan and his son obviously coaching that offense and 321 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 7: offensive line. That's an interesting dynamic. They go pick up 322 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 7: more the left tackle from Pittsburgh Pittsburgh. So that was 323 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 7: a huge signing, four years, eighty two million bucks. I 324 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 7: mean that's they're investing in that offensive line to protect 325 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 7: this quarterback. And this is year two in a row 326 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: that they're trotting out, you know, a high draft pick 327 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 7: or somebody who they imagine is going to be the 328 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 7: face of the franchise. 329 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: So they want to get it right. 330 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez joining us Fox Sports NFL analyst. We got 331 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: two segments, so a lot of Mark and we love 332 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: this and there's always tape, so I said, there are 333 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you get a coordinator or a coach. Offensively and stylistically, 334 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: he helps the player, but he's not a perfect fit. 335 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Ben Jumps to me, is a little bit. He's a 336 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: little bit like a Shanahan or a Kevin O'Connell. Here's 337 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: the player, run it. He'll give you some freedom. Sure 338 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Caleb is. I mean he's an artist. I mean he 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: is a stocky, powerful player. And I know Caleb will 340 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: be better. I know that Mark, But sometimes I wonder 341 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: if stylistically they're not they're not a perfect fit. What 342 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: is a realistic expectation in your opinion? 343 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Year two? 344 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 7: Well, I think number one is his process approach in 345 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 7: philosophy is probably really taking a shift. And you know 346 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 7: he's had different types of coordinators, whether it's in college 347 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 7: or even his rookie year where he could kind of 348 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 7: add lib. 349 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 5: Kind of at will. 350 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 7: I think exactly what you said, there's going to be 351 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 7: some more structure we're going to develop, you know, a 352 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 7: kind of a one two three plan. This is kind 353 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 7: of what it feels like. If it doesn't, we're getting 354 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 7: the two. If not, we're getting the three, and let's 355 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: speed that process up. I know from everybody you talked 356 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 7: to about Ben Jonson, he's a no nonsense guy. He 357 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 7: has a picture and a vision of what is supposed 358 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 7: to look like and if it don't look like that, 359 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 7: get the hell out of my way. 360 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 5: I'll find a guy that can do it. 361 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 7: So that kind of attitude I think might be just 362 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 7: what Caleb needs and we'll see it in the production 363 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 7: once again, that process, the pre snat process, and then 364 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 7: he's got to eliminate some of those sacks, and I 365 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: think naturally Ben Johnson's going to put him in some 366 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 7: great spots, give him some breather place where he just 367 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 7: I know where the ball's going. I'm spitting it out quick. 368 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 7: It might be a third and long. Hopefully we get 369 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 7: the first out. But I don't need him to drop 370 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 7: back right here. We don't need him. What did Sean 371 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 7: Payton say? I don't need him to fly the final 372 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 7: mission for top Gun to save the planet. Every single play, 373 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 7: Let's get my quarterback into groove. And then the big 374 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 7: one for me is him understanding when to hang in 375 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 7: the pocket and trust it and win from the pocket 376 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 7: with slight movement, and then when to completely break and 377 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 7: go steal some yards, get down, get out of bounds, 378 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 7: stay healthy. I think that kind of discernment. We're going 379 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 7: to see a little more with that, because I think 380 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: it his footwork and his eyes are just going to 381 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 7: be in the right place, right timing, and if it 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 7: ain't there, I'm moving on with my life. Cut bait, 383 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 7: move on with your life and go make a play 384 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 7: like I think Ben will give him that kind of 385 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 7: that speech. Hey, get me out of a jam. Maybe 386 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 7: two to three times a game, I'm gonna put you 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 7: in really good spots, okay, but those two to three 388 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: times are critical plays. We can't turn the ball over 389 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 7: and we can't take hits. 390 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've argued this. You know Michael Jordan about twice 391 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: a game would take your breath away, but he lived 392 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: on eighteen footers and mahomes about three times a game. 393 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: You're like, what did I watch? But he never misses layups. 394 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: That's right, that's really quarterbacking. Mark Sanchez. Oh, was great, 395 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: great to have him back. We take a break, we 396 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: come back with more live in LA. It's the Herd. 397 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 398 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 399 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh, it's always great to have Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports 400 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: NFL analyst. 401 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: He will be good game. 402 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: Actually, you got to see Cam wore the number one 403 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: pick against Denver. 404 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: That's a really good game. 405 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: All right. 406 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: So one of the things you talked about with Denver 407 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: was continuity, and the Jets have none. As you well know, 408 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: you were actually with the Jets the last time they 409 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: had some continuity and you had success in the playoffs, 410 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: especially on road games and big games and pressure games. 411 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: So the Jets have all new everything. Aaron Glenn was 412 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: a great coordinator. Is he a great hit coach? We 413 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Justin fields is certainly capable. You take me 414 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: through the Jets all new stuff. 415 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 7: Well, I think you know he's going to light a 416 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 7: fire under those guys. And Aaron Glenn is that kind 417 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 7: of coach. He's former player, a Pro Bowl player, played 418 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 7: for the Jets. You know, with Parcels understands he's part 419 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 7: of that kind of tree toughness. 420 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 5: Physicality, the attitude. 421 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 7: And you know, you sit in front of him in 422 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 7: these production meetings and I want to go play defense, 423 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. He's that kind of a motivator. 424 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 7: They have plenty of weapons on defense if they're healthy, 425 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 7: If Jermaine Johnson comes back. You know they got Quinn Williams, 426 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 7: didn't do a ton in the preseason. 427 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: Is he going to be healthy? 428 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 7: You know, who's gonna rush on the other side, like 429 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 7: they There's there's plenty there on defense for this team 430 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 7: to be a defensive first team. Plenty there on offense. 431 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 7: Although it sounds like Elijah Vera Tucker got hurt, which 432 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 7: is tragic, you know, stud player and has bounced between 433 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 7: guard rey guard, right tackle, you know, playing all over 434 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 7: and now he could finally focus at guard and it 435 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 7: sounds like he has a significant injury. So that's gonna hurt. 436 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 7: But if they can run the ball, Breese Hall, Braylen Allen. 437 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: I mean you should see Braylen Allen. This guy trains 438 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 7: with Dereck Henry Wisconsin. Holy smokes. I mean this guy 439 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 7: is just a first off the bus kind of player, 440 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 7: just so the other people can look at him like, 441 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 7: good luck, dude, good good luck tackling this guy. So 442 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 7: I think that's going to be their approach. And if 443 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 7: it's defense, Aaron Glenn's going to take care of that, 444 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 7: right That's that's where he's. 445 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: Going to really make his mark. 446 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 7: And his team has to be tough defensively and stingy 447 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: opportunistics take the ball away. 448 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: That got to be better on special teams. Colum. 449 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 7: They lost like three games, just gave him away last 450 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 7: year because of the kicking game return game. I mean, 451 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 7: something went wrong. They got to get that tightened up. 452 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 7: And then, you know, for me, justin fields, he's an 453 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 7: able runner. He's got to be a willing runner in 454 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 7: this offense. Yeah, it's got to be movement throws. It's 455 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 7: got to be stuff that he's really really comfortable with. 456 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 7: And he's got to add you know, five hundred yards 457 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 7: with his legs. I mean, bo Nicks ran for four 458 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 7: hundred plus last year, so I got to see that 459 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 7: kind of production. 460 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: Are more from Justin Fields. 461 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 7: If this team wants to to, you know, really take 462 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 7: a step in the right direction, and let Erin Glenn 463 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 7: put his stamp on this franchise. 464 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I remember you saying this once when 465 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: you were in New York. Because of the media and 466 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: the talk shows, they brought Tim Tebowan and you're like, he. 467 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: Was clearly a backup. 468 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: But it's just a relentless, never ending drama every time 469 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: in the media. So here you have the Giants where 470 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart has a good preseason, the schedule's tough. Brian 471 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Dable and the general manager feel if it went sideways 472 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: in the first six weeks, they could be in trouble. 473 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I like a lot about the Giants. I love neighbors, 474 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: I love their left tackle, I like their coach. I 475 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: think their front defensively is unbelievable. Abdull Carter is going 476 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: to be in that Rookie of the Year category stuff, 477 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: I think. But that quarterback Jackson Dart Russell, what do 478 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: you make of that? 479 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: I think it's a similar situation to the Jets, where 480 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 7: it's going to be a defensive focus team. You mentioned 481 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 7: the guys they have up front. I mean that Bobby 482 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 7: Ocake is an excellent linebacker and he came over from 483 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 7: Indy and he's played really well in multiple systems there, 484 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 7: even with Wing Marndale, with you know all their guys 485 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 7: now Shane Bowen. 486 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: I mean, they got some serious talent. 487 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 7: Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Thibodeau, and Carter's stack. 488 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's one thing to be. 489 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 7: A really good rusher as a rookie and you're kind 490 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 7: of on your own and looking for other guys to 491 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: kind of chip in. 492 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: I mean, you might not even notice. 493 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: Carter because you can't see past Dexter Lawrence, you know 494 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 7: what I mean. So this team is loaded and there'll 495 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 7: be a defensive first team. The quarterback position is a 496 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: noisy media and a loud market. It is hard to 497 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 7: manage those expectations. I think he got a guy in 498 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson who's steady, and I think that's what is 499 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 7: attractive about him for Dable at the head coach. 500 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 5: But you see Jackson Darr every opportunity he got, he. 501 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 7: I mean, he lit it up. He did everything he 502 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 7: wanted to do. He checked every box. I wanted to see. 503 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 7: The spotlight wasn't too big. He hit the go ball 504 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 7: when he needed to. He handled two minute drives, sometimes 505 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 7: against the two, sometimes against the starter. He looked great 506 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 7: in the Jets Giants, you know, dual practice, joint practice. 507 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 7: He looked incredible. But so did Russ. So you have 508 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 7: someone there. You have this potential backup plan future. It's 509 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 7: just a timing thing. How long is the leash? You know, 510 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 7: those kind of questions show up when you have that 511 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 7: much talent. I guess it's a good problem to have 512 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 7: because you have so much talent, but managing that talent 513 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 7: is going to be a bumpy road. 514 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, you went your year one with the Jets, you 515 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. Then they went out and did they 516 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: had Braylon Edwards, the added to somebody. 517 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 5: San Antonio Holmes. 518 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: So we go into year two with all these quarterbacks. 519 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: So Jaden has proven himself. Bonix was very good. Can't 520 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: wait to watch JJ and Penix. I think Drake may 521 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: looked really good down the stretch without a lot of 522 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: juice on the perimeter. What was the biggest jump for 523 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: you year one the year two where you when you 524 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: went into that camp and maybe mid season, You're like, boy, 525 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm a different player with this. 526 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 7: I felt the pressure, not just externally but internally with 527 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 7: the veterans we acquired, but Danian Thomlinson and Jason Taylor, 528 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 7: two Hall of famers, and I just felt this sense 529 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 7: of urgency. I knew how close we were the year 530 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 7: before in the championship game, and there was there was 531 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 7: just a different approach, a different makeup of that team, 532 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 7: and there was something special about it. You could feel 533 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 7: it when we talked about training cam. You can feel 534 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 7: it in training camp. Could we were hard knocks? It 535 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 7: was it was nosy knocks. And so you know what 536 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 7: I will warn people Week one. We went out Week 537 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 7: one and laid an egg and lost in the first 538 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 7: game in Met Life against the Ravens and got smacked 539 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 7: around a little bit, especially on offense defense player. Right, 540 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 7: we didn't play very well after a great training camp. 541 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 7: So it ended up being a different year than we 542 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 7: expected to start. You know, we thought this is this 543 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 7: is it. And people have to remember also, just because 544 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: you go to the championship game, you start zero and 545 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 7: zero the next year, right, you know what I mean, 546 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 7: It's not just oh we win one more game. 547 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 5: No, that was last year Bud put it to bed. 548 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 7: Move on New Year, New lifetime really of emotions and 549 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: new living, breathing thing. So that was our first year 550 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 7: that I had won a fourth quarter comeback game, two 551 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 7: minute drives, winning games. 552 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 5: We won three in a row, last play of the game. 553 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 554 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 7: And that those like three game heaters we didn't have 555 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 7: the year before like that. They didn't feel like that. 556 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 7: It didn't feel like, hey man, we got this. We 557 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 7: got some spell us here. I had never proven it. 558 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 7: I'd never won a fourth quarter comeback, so then the 559 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 7: other guy saw it, and then I'm getting tips from 560 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 7: Jason Taylor in training camp. Those one of my favorite stories. 561 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 7: Under the center, we used to take snaps under center. 562 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 7: If you didn't know that now it's all Shaka, but 563 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 7: under center, I would twitch my hand right before I 564 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 7: was going to receive the ball, when the cadence was 565 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 7: real and Jason Taylor was low on the ground looking 566 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 7: at my hand and said, hey, Rook, I got a 567 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 7: tip for you. Or he didn't call me rook because 568 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 7: I was sick here, but I got a tip for 569 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 7: you something with the snap, I got your cadence, and 570 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 7: I'm like, what's the deal. 571 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 5: Dude, you're like in. 572 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 7: The backfield as soon as I hiked the ball, you're 573 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 7: like taking the handoff going the other way. He said, 574 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 7: I'll tell you after training camp. I was like, dude, 575 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 7: but he ended up telling me, and then I would 576 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 7: use it just to make sure I would bluff it. 577 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 7: You know, so stuff like that, like you get insider 578 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 7: insight like that and knowledge from a guy like Jason Taylor. 579 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 7: I mean, you can't help but want to perform your best, 580 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 7: want to prepare your butt off because I don't want 581 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 7: to let that guy down. I don't want to miss 582 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 7: Ladanion on a checkdown. I couldn't afford to, you know 583 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 7: what I mean. That was the kind of feeling I had, 584 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 7: and I feel like if anybody's in a similar situation, 585 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 7: is Bonix, Jaydon Daniels, some of these Year two guys 586 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 7: who've been to the playoffs. This is the ultimate meritocracy. 587 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 7: What have you done for me lately? 588 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: Right? 589 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 7: Last year's over? Show me again, show me you can 590 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 7: do it again? And you know that's the position a 591 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 7: lot of these guys find themselves in. 592 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: I think it's great that you're doing. 593 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: I want to segue back to cam Ward's first game 594 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: as a pro. Your first game was in Houston, Houston. 595 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: I remember you made a big third down throw. It's 596 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: amazing what I can remember and can't. I mean, I 597 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: can't remember yesterday. 598 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 5: Sam. Sam. 599 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 600 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: So so you come out of USC were at the 601 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: time those games were sold out, you were in LA. 602 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: You didn't come from Iowa State. So but take me 603 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: to your nerves. 604 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: I want you to take me to to on the 605 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: field anthem. 606 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 7: That's what cam Ward's going through feels. It feels like 607 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 7: a blur. You're on the road, it's loud. Joe Namath 608 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 7: is on the sidelines talking with my dad and my 609 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 7: high school coach before the game. I'm just like, oh 610 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 7: my god. I literally I told this story the other day. 611 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 7: But I went inside to go get ready for the game. 612 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 7: I didn't even take my ankles. I've taped my ankles 613 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 7: for every game I've ever played, and just forgot just 614 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: walked right out on the field. But it might clean something, 615 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: let's go, and was just so hyper focused on everything 616 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 7: else that you know, it's an absolute blur and you'll 617 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 7: look back and have fun if you'll look back and 618 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 7: remember what an amazing time it was. But in that 619 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 7: moment it is, you know, just tunnel vision and he'll 620 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 7: be locked in, ready to go. The first thing I 621 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 7: wanted to do was just get a completion, and I 622 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 7: wanted to get knocked down just one time. 623 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: Get my jersey a little bit dirty. Yeah, just get 624 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: my jersey a little bit dirty. 625 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 7: Not a hard hit, nothing to stop the game and 626 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: get walked off the field or anything, but just something 627 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 7: to remind me, Okay, I'm in games started. Let's rock 628 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 7: and get through our process. Great footwork, great eyes, great accuracy. 629 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez is joining us, when you know, I do 630 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: think we're gonna go to eighteen games potentially by next 631 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: year or at seventeen. When I grew up, it was fourteen, 632 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: then we went to sixteen. Uh, we're gonna have probably 633 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: shrinkage in the preseason. There's joint practices. We know that 634 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: you joint practices I think have some impact. But when you, 635 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: even as a veteran Joe Burrows struggled in September, what 636 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: is the difference of speed. Yeah, intense joint practice, preseason, 637 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: real snaps and the first series of the season, is 638 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: it a noticeable difference in speed? 639 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: There's a difference. 640 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 7: I feel like the joint practices though it's you know, 641 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 7: controlled chaos. You know, it's it's managing the amount of 642 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 7: reps that you're getting and quality reps. Think more like 643 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 7: farmers market as opposed to you know, you know, grocery store, 644 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 7: Superstar chain. Right, so you get quality reps in a 645 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 7: controlled environment, and it's at times it feels more real 646 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: than the preseason. And then Week one hits and that's legit. 647 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 7: Then you play your first divisional game and you're like, ooh, yeah, 648 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 7: we really don't like each other. 649 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 5: Okay, got it. 650 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 7: It's gonna be like, you know, the personnel, you know, 651 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 7: the coaches go back and forth, like you just know 652 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 7: a lot about that team, they know a lot about you. 653 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 7: Those are street fights, and that feels a little different. 654 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 7: And then you get to a playoff game, Holy smoke, 655 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 7: each each one that you get to experience Wildcard Divisional 656 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 7: and then the farthest we got was the championship game. 657 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 5: Buddy, it's like a different world. 658 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 7: And these kids, I mean everybody when the playoffs are 659 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 7: everybody's playing essentially for the same amount of money, right right, 660 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 7: your contracts expired, boom, You're just playing to win these games, 661 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: and nobody wants to go home. 662 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 5: Nobody's making vacation plans. Forget all that. 663 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 7: We're getting a Lombardi Trophy and that's all we know, 664 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, And very few players get 665 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 7: to actually realize that. So it is it's a step 666 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 7: up as you go each once again, each wrong on 667 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 7: the ladder. 668 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 5: You can feel it. And Week one, I'm excited for him. 669 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 7: I'm gonna sit here next week and we're gonna have 670 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 7: all the answers about the entire league in just one week. 671 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 7: But we can't forget Week one is a dirty little 672 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 7: liar like your ex right, that was screaming with j Mac. Yeah, 673 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 7: so let's just not you know, let's not go crazy. 674 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 7: Let's not go crazy. It's gonna be impossible. I'll be 675 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 7: right there with you. 676 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: So, Titans Broncos this Sunday for Eastern on Fox. You 677 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: get into town, what Saturday morning, I'll be there tomorrow. 678 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 7: Shoot, well we go to the practice on Friday. Let's 679 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 7: go baby. That's fun, right, Oh, it's the best. Champaign 680 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 7: is a great interview too. Yeah, he does a great Joe, 681 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 7: we'll talk. Oh he's great. 682 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: I mean he was here. 683 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 7: I mean, he's got nuggets for days Man. 684 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Great scene again. Appreciate you Mark Sanchez all year. How 685 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: lucky you're week. First things First is around the corner. 686 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: It still hurt.