WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Big Bye Week Questions

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>Wait Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Am bar Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October ninth, twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Season thirteen, episode number fifty three. Welcome to another edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Break Guy. AM Derek Eagleton and joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. We're life from the

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking Cowboys football.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Tuesday, it's the bye week, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to take a little bigger picture look today

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<v Speaker 1>at what's going on with this team and try to

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<v Speaker 1>answer some questions for you guys, with the big overall

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<v Speaker 1>theme being that we're gonna look at this team and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the things that they've done well so far,

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<v Speaker 1>the things they haven't done well so far, and try

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<v Speaker 1>to answer some questions around how they can be better

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<v Speaker 1>and once they get back from the buy and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going down the stretch, how they can be better to

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<v Speaker 1>position themselves for playoff run. How's everybody doing this morning? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good good, I'm great, good, awesome. It don't

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<v Speaker 1>look great, better than great. You're right, I don't look great.

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<v Speaker 1>I look phenomenal, really really good stuff. Thanks Dave. We

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<v Speaker 1>can tell thank you. All right. Let's let's jump right

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<v Speaker 1>in and I guess the first thing I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>just mention and then we can talk about it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. This NFC East after five weeks is looking,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, very different than probably what most people expected

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<v Speaker 1>it would look like going into the season. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it looks different than what I thought. Um I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and the Giants would be at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the division. Right now. The Giants are sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>oh and five, and it looks like they're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>in position where things are going to implode from here,

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<v Speaker 1>if they haven't already. They've now lost three wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>for the season in one game, which is remarkable, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another receiver that's gonna be out for presumably maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a week two weeks, so it just doesn't look good

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<v Speaker 1>for them at oh and five. And then the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>one peg up at two and three, then Washington second

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<v Speaker 1>place at two and two, Philly at four and one.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about this division right now? Drinking?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that we're both drinking? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something to say. I thought he meant, like the different

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<v Speaker 1>type of drinking, like, oh, drinking, After how this thing

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<v Speaker 1>started out, it might have to. I mean, I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 1>shocked that the Giants are as putrid as they are

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<v Speaker 1>because I really thought they were going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys main competition for a playoff spot. So just to

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<v Speaker 1>see them just kind of have that start from hell

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<v Speaker 1>that really, I mean, crazier things have probably happened, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you come back from an oh

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<v Speaker 1>and five start where you know, probably well definitely your

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<v Speaker 1>best players out for the year and your biggest problem,

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<v Speaker 1>you're off in the line isn't getting any better. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember when I said they didn't really play

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<v Speaker 1>that good against the Giants. Do you guys remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys think that? Do you remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>said that they didn't really play that well against the Giants?

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<v Speaker 1>They dominated an NFL team, the Giants all of their

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<v Speaker 1>losses except for the Cowboys game. Are you saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>play that well against the Giants? Is that what you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say? Yeah, I said that before the cow

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<v Speaker 1>But now do you think differently from this Giants team?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. The Cowboys played played their best game of

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<v Speaker 1>season in my opinion against the Giants. I know that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what our point is. That's not so

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<v Speaker 1>great now, but it's still an NFL team, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you allow a goal to an NFL team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean every every component of your that defense is

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<v Speaker 1>sealed that defense, right what's different about that defense? They're

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<v Speaker 1>like last in the league in rush defense right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, I get the point she's trying to make,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not right because you still dominated in NFL team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen. I mean the Giants lost on the

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<v Speaker 1>last play of the game to Okay, maybe late in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter of the charters, they gave up the

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<v Speaker 1>backbreaking touchdown of the Lions with you know, less than

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter to play, whereas really against the Cowboys, they

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<v Speaker 1>were they were hardly in the game at all. They

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<v Speaker 1>got dominated in an NFL game, which you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>happen that often, right, especially a division opponent. So they

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<v Speaker 1>still I think played fairly well. Okay, no, they did,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I don't know if this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to say or not, but I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying back then was, hey, nice win,

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Giants, the team you couldn't beat last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't signal that everything is fine. They still didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that they didn't play that well, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it. They go back the next week, they get crushed.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they beat a Cardinals team that isn't very good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, i'll give you, I'll give you beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants does not look good, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>does not look like as good of a win as

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<v Speaker 1>you probably thought it was. But I still think they

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<v Speaker 1>played overall pretty well that game, and they did, but

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<v Speaker 1>they made a lot of mistakes and it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 1>great of a win as you would think it was,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it was against the Giants, a team that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't beat and they have ish. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>beat them one time last year, but um no, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost both games. Oh yeah, that's right, duh. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why they became from last year when it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>like further than a year out of my mind, stylers

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little blurry. But that's my point. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a big win for the Cowboys because

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<v Speaker 1>it was against a team they haven't beat. So aside

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<v Speaker 1>from that, it really really wasn't a wonderful win. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way they played, Yeah, I guess the way I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it is and maybe I'm different in how

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<v Speaker 1>I look at these games. I look at him game

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and when you play a division opponent, you

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<v Speaker 1>beat a division opponent, you beat a division opponent by

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<v Speaker 1>difficultly beat them. And by the way, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>team you couldn't beat last year. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the statistics are what they are. But at

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<v Speaker 1>Week one, that defense was as strong as a defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They were missing one guy I think that was a

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<v Speaker 1>starter last year that was a significant starter, the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle that went on to We're going to Atkins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the giants, But I understand that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is most of the guys on that

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<v Speaker 1>defense that were the difference makers last year were right

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<v Speaker 1>back there and present in Week one of the season

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and the Cowboys played as good a game

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<v Speaker 1>as they've played all season. So I get your point.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, yes, the Giants aren't great. But whether

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Giants, whether that's the Cleveland Browns, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that's you, you plug in, whatever team you think is

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the league. When you go out

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<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday and a team gets win where they

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<v Speaker 1>beat up and dominate another team, that's still significant in

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<v Speaker 1>my book. And I think that still matters because, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a college team that we struggle with every body.

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<v Speaker 1>So to go out and dominate a team that still

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<v Speaker 1>matters the Giant thought about that your colleges team, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about that from last year. Remember they go

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<v Speaker 1>and they beat Notre Dame and overtime and it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. Texas football is back. You know. Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame is not very good. And I think the point

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<v Speaker 1>is is that, like what looked good in Week one

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<v Speaker 1>is it doesn't look as good anymore. Yeah, that's that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>What they played well in the game. But now you're

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that I think Auburn could beat them. Maybe. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, oh, the Giants are bad though, Giants, Giant,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be even worse now because of those three

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<v Speaker 1>guys being but they one of them was gone when

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<v Speaker 1>they played the Cowboys, and it was noticeable. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York's margin of defeat so far this season is five, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen and sixteen. I'm just saying, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Is one of those games is without

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<v Speaker 1>their best player. And we'll see moving forward without their

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<v Speaker 1>best player how they are. Oh, it's gonna get worse now,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely, I'm just and theydn't play. They structure that team,

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<v Speaker 1>no running game, no offensive line. That's fine, we got Beckham.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we're arguing about at this point anymore. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either. Fact is when they play at night,

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. When they play in the day, they haven't won.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Yeah, night day, It's a night and day

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<v Speaker 1>difference of this team. It might be a headline on Arst. No, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't control that the Giants. Giants being the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>being terrible is certainly pretty surprising. Um, giants break nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else really stunted me. I think the Eagles had the

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<v Speaker 1>defense that I thought that they would be a competitive team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have said, however, good they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>probably rests on how well Carson Wentz plays, and so

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<v Speaker 1>far he's playing really, really well. Did you expect their

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<v Speaker 1>offense to be as good as it's been, because their

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<v Speaker 1>offense has been really Yeah, no, I didn't. I'm you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they signed al Shan Jeffrey and Tory Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>had moments in Baltimore, not really so much in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>um and and they lost Aaron Sprowls, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot there that made me think they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a Jugger not But again, if your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is playing at an amazing level, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>matter who's around him. Ask Aaron Rodgers. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprising that their offense has looked as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it has, But overall, I think that had the makings

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<v Speaker 1>of a competitive team. And then it always surprised me

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<v Speaker 1>that people were so eager to write off the Redskins,

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<v Speaker 1>like they didn't make a playoff push of their own

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I mean, they were up, they were in

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<v Speaker 1>the wildcard race up until late December, and they took

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<v Speaker 1>the week off, so it's kind of hard to judge,

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<v Speaker 1>but they gave the Chiefs everything they could handle on

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<v Speaker 1>the road on Monday night two weeks ago and just

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<v Speaker 1>and beat the crap out of Oakland when Derek Carr

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<v Speaker 1>was still playing. So they look formidable. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's I think this division is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a dogfight all the way. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if Philly runs away with this thing one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other. They haven't really beaten anyone yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Eagles, oh the Eagles, and like you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the rest of their schedule, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that much worse for them. So they're in They're

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<v Speaker 1>in a good situation because they are beating well. They

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Redskins on the road, which is that was

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<v Speaker 1>a big win, you know, on the road obviously, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost to the Chiefs. They beat the Giants by three,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really close game. Uh. They beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers by two on the road, and they beat the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all three of those teams are really are

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<v Speaker 1>struggling right now. They'll face the Panthers on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to push this week forward, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not going that fast. I actually this morning kind of thought,

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<v Speaker 1>is it is it Friday? And it was Tuesday. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really the worst thing to think is it's Friday and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tuesday. Anyways, they play the Redskins again forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>Ers Broncos Cowboys. I mean, that's the thing. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>down two games to the a team that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>face twice. So yeah, I agree, day they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to run away with anything, but they are playing pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they they're doing it with receivers that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't expect to be that great. I mean, Alshan

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffreys good, but you know, they're finally getting that some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out out of call learn and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>key of there is is the tight end and they

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<v Speaker 1>just move the ball with the tight end there nerds.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, let's um, let's bring I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to hit a bigger topic today, Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to kind of look at what this team does

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<v Speaker 1>well and what the team does they haven't done so well,

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<v Speaker 1>and see if we can figure out, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>they need to progress down the stretch in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get themselves into position to make a play to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the playoffs number one, but then be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make a push in the playoffs So I started

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<v Speaker 1>looking at some of the numbers and I found a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things that are that are kind of trends

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll be interested to see if you guys agree

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<v Speaker 1>with these things. These are things that the Cowboys do well.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at them statistically and how they rank to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the league. Scoring, Uh, they are right now

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<v Speaker 1>ranked in points per game ninth in the league with

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, doing pretty well there. They are limiting the

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<v Speaker 1>number of turnovers. They have zero fumble, which is always

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. They only have a few interceptions, but

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<v Speaker 1>again nothing that's alarming. So they're limiting the number of

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers that they're having. And they're running the ball. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the yards per carry, they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>third in the league with four point seven yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't feel like that though, as you're watching the game,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that that number can probably be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit misleading. So I'll ask this question, based up

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<v Speaker 1>on those things and any other things you guys can

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<v Speaker 1>think of, what do you think is the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys do right now? Based on the first five games? First,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think is the best thing that they do?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we talking offense? Offense? Just on offense right now. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing the Cowboys do what Dad does. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, play quarterback, just whatever goes along with that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's He's the best thing about this team right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. I actually looked at this. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't take out I know you can't take out

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<v Speaker 1>the bad stuff and only look at the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was He was pretty mediocre to bad by

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<v Speaker 1>his standards in the first two weeks of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>even against the Giants, to Amber's point. Since then, in

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<v Speaker 1>the three games since then, his average pass rating is

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<v Speaker 1>one thirteen point five, which would put him in the

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<v Speaker 1>top five in the league. He's been outstanding. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason why the Rams game was even as close

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<v Speaker 1>as it was, and he certainly gave them every opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>you could want to beat the Packers as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they run the ball all right, but again, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not what it was, which is disheartening because

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<v Speaker 1>that was I think that was the key to everything

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<v Speaker 1>last year. So it's weird. I mean, they I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the stats off him, but they probably run the

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<v Speaker 1>ball better than two thirds of the league. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like it. Well, it's very obvious that the

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<v Speaker 1>teams have decided that Dak Prescott has to beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, right now he's two and three, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean as great as as we think that he

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<v Speaker 1>is playing, and he has played well, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>the this is the game plan, this is what teams

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<v Speaker 1>are betting on, is that we're gonna we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>it in Dak's hands and see if he can get

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<v Speaker 1>it to the receivers who don't scare us and the

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<v Speaker 1>tight end who doesn't scare us. You know, they're letting

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<v Speaker 1>those guys try to beat them, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe that that's so far is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>work that they have three losses this year, three losses

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<v Speaker 1>last year, so they're not letting them run the ball

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<v Speaker 1>like they did last year. But Dak is playing well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean they're it's not resulting in victories, not many.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's the best thing they do is

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<v Speaker 1>Dak in the passing game? The best thing. Sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>this looks a lot like it did three or four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago when Tony. When Tony was the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they did, and sometimes it was good enough. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't And you know what, did you just finish

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight? And this is the path that this

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<v Speaker 1>team is on. I mean they're gonna finish eight and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>nine and seven, just depending on how things go. If

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't change, if they don't start dictating what they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do and say, now we're gonna run it regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what you think, we're gonna run it. And but

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's the best thing they do? Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott in the passing game, yeah, I said a Dak,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I mean for the running game again, the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dave said, it's not too bad, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's because we were spoiled from last year that

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<v Speaker 1>we expected to be a certain way and we just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it be that way. So aside from that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think every other area. There's an issue in every

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<v Speaker 1>other area, aside from quarterback and even quarterback. But it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what the offensive line is doing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak has been doing a phenomenal job just making sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's not sacked or he's been under pressure a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So defensive line, there are some issues there. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>issues at the wide receiver position again, tight end some white.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we barely start seeing Jason Winn doing some things,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a problem in every area. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about it because we talked about the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. But the first drive of the game

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<v Speaker 1>he made to Bryce Butler give him getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the sack, and it felt like or it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were on his legs like trying to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him down and he still had enough arm string to

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<v Speaker 1>get it out there to Bryce. I thought that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just another example that this guy, like you said, Embert,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's getting harassed on every play. The things that

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing is because of him. And you said the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing him in the passing game. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the passing game. It's just like, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>moving the change and he's moving them. He's doing a

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<v Speaker 1>great job with that. And it's interesting you say that

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<v Speaker 1>because right now the Cowboys are ranked six in the

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<v Speaker 1>number of sacks loud with only seven. But as you

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<v Speaker 1>watch the game, you know, you know, sometimes that's a

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<v Speaker 1>number that you look at the offensive line, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the games, you know that he's he should

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<v Speaker 1>have been sacked way more than that it's his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to escape pressure and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make plays that's allowing this team to not have as

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<v Speaker 1>many statistical sacks, although he's being pressured a ton and

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of flirting with danger on interceptions too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's had probably five or six that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wha. I mean, he's's kind of gotten lucky that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been picked out. Unlucky with the Terrence pick

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<v Speaker 1>six that lost the game for him, But for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, he's had a lot that should have been picked.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the nature of it though. I mean his first

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<v Speaker 1>pick in Denver was was on Dez, and his pick

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<v Speaker 1>against the Packers was on Terrence. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you think the Rams game, he had to throw to

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence that probably should have been picked a play action.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence was coming across and he just didn't throw it

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<v Speaker 1>the right way. Guy got a hand on it. Happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it happened on a throw to Witton in

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<v Speaker 1>this last game, where you know, the defender had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good beat on it and it got batted away.

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<v Speaker 1>So des leads the league and pass breakups. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing some good corner He tried to throw that one

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<v Speaker 1>on Alfred Morris. Hit Alfred Morrison the head and the

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<v Speaker 1>head and bounced up and he could have been I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's he's doing a good job of avoiding sacks, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get more interceptions doing it that way. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a frustrating question to answer, like the more I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking about it, because you know, the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>against the Packers is best rush offense in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing whatever they wanted to. I mean, you're running

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<v Speaker 1>the crack sweep and Zeke's just plowing through guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've seen some electric passing plays You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in every game except Denver. You've seen flashes of what

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<v Speaker 1>we know that they can be. And again they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to sustain it for a whole game. And

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<v Speaker 1>you keep thinking this will be the week when they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get it on track, and they still haven't

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<v Speaker 1>quite gotten everything flowing the way that you expect it

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<v Speaker 1>to flow. And I'll cater, you know, to the fan

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<v Speaker 1>who's about to throw his iPad out the window at

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<v Speaker 1>me right now. I mean, it's very easy to argue that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I said the opposite yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel that way, but it's hard to It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to reasonably demand much more from your offense than

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw in that Green Bay game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty three rushing yards, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty passing yards, three touchdowns, an interception that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback's fault. Thirty one points should win you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football game. You would think, you would think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of footballs too. This season that they've had, we've

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<v Speaker 1>scored plus thirty and have won. So maybe just well

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<v Speaker 1>that other ono it was on them rather than the

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<v Speaker 1>opposing team. Well, either whoever you want to give, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say was at fault. The point is,

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<v Speaker 1>you score thirty plus points in the NFL at home,

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<v Speaker 1>you would you would think in most circumstances, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the statistic is, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>if you look across the league, the percentage probably is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely high that you win those games. So um, it

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<v Speaker 1>still does point to the fact that offense just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>seeming to be enough at this point for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>to get wins, even when they score an inordinately large

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<v Speaker 1>number of points. All right, let's take our first break

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. I want to talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about what this offense doesn't do so well, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll get over to the defense. And we got

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of things to talk about there. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the Break, Welcome back. It's the second second

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<v Speaker 1>of the Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star. We're trying to fix this team. We've now

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing. I think that's what we're doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think here in the bye week, it's up to us

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<v Speaker 1>to try to figure out what's going on. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful that we can come out of this show

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<v Speaker 1>with some good pointers that then I can take over

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<v Speaker 1>to Coach Garrett's office after I leave here and just

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<v Speaker 1>like throw him down on his desk and say, here

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<v Speaker 1>you go. We're trying to fix this team. Why we

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<v Speaker 1>spend the first part of it talking about the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, because there's there's always whenever you whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a particular situation, you should always look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the positives and the negatives on both on all

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<v Speaker 1>of her sides. So then you figure out what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing well, keep doing that, what you're not doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>You always tell someone about their positives before you, before

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<v Speaker 1>you Yeah, I got it, all right, So let's flip that, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Since this is your area of expertise, tell me what's

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<v Speaker 1>going wrong with this offense? What do they not do well?

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<v Speaker 1>So far? My area of expertise is being negative kind

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<v Speaker 1>of yeah, uh okay, sure, Yeah, I mean that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>You're okay with that? Yeah, their offensive line is it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not it's not what it was. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there were there were plenty of concerns about that in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season, and they they have proven to be true. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're fine, they're fine, they run the ball, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>they protect Dak pretty well, as you said, I mean, okay, okay, again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're okay, Like they're pretty good, which is good in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, but not compared to the Great Wall of Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is enough, it's not, it's not again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say this, and I just I'm sorry. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a broken record. This team has a lot of flaws,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly on the defensive side of the ball. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback who's playing damn well, but is not on

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<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Rodgers level where he can mask all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of deficiencies. Your defense, Your defense was not great last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not any better this year. If this team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be good, it's because the offense is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a well oiled machine that just zips up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the field, runs the ball at will, and

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<v Speaker 1>scores whenever it wants to's was that not the recipe

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<v Speaker 1>for success last year and they're not doing it this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and so all those flaws come to the surface when

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<v Speaker 1>that's not happening. And yeah, the receivers haven't been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Dak has made more mistakes this year than he did

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<v Speaker 1>last year. But I think you can trace a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that back to the offensive line. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, it's it's not the dominant unit that

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<v Speaker 1>just dictated football games the way it did last year.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they not do so well offensively? Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing I haven't said already, to be honest. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the offensive line. We talked about it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I would get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>messages on Twitter it's like, can't you stop talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line? They're fine, blah blah blah throughout this

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<v Speaker 1>whole process. But I don't know if you guys remember

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<v Speaker 1>how I mentioned to you guys back at training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was how I heard over from that

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<v Speaker 1>side of the building, you know, from the Cowboys side,

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<v Speaker 1>how that was their biggest concern this offseason was that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, the guard position and left tackle, And it

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<v Speaker 1>clearly has been. You know, a lot of people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect that two guys would really make a difference in

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<v Speaker 1>between all those older pro bowler guys, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>and it's shown, and thank god Dak has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do what he's done to manage this game and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it moving. What's been a bigger hindrance for this

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line the guard position or the tackle position well again.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Lyle Collins. I'm still not to where he's

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<v Speaker 1>at right now. He does good things, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not perfect just yet. And I don't blame him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with the job he's doing so far. He's

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<v Speaker 1>managed well, and Chas Green is still kind of iffy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it's well. I mean Jonathan Cooper also,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, has played the last two games. But with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is it really that much different than Chas Green.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically very close to being the same. Chas Green

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go up against Aaron Donald and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably I don't think it would have been any different really,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all training camp was kind of back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could ask twenty different people and you probably got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ten ten, not you know, eleven nine on

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper or Green. It's that close, and when we've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play it play out, it hasn't been in

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<v Speaker 1>that much different. I don't think, I mean with Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>that they have scored thirty points you know, in these

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<v Speaker 1>in these last two games. I mean, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's with Cooper doing it. I'm just saying they've they've done,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, It's just sorry, it's just strange to say

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<v Speaker 1>because they I mean, they finished with a hundred. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as the Rams game. They finished one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty three rushing yards. That's outstanding by NFL standards.

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<v Speaker 1>But you we all know that that that Zeke had

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<v Speaker 1>what thirty heading into the fourth quarter or something close

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<v Speaker 1>to that, and that's that's just not going to cut it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. And the rushing yards too, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is you know when you say with four point

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<v Speaker 1>seven and all that, and obviously one of those is

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<v Speaker 1>a really big run by by Morris, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it too is Dak. I mean Dak's running, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for ten twelve yards every time when when he breaks free,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that they obviously count to the rushing yards,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the time he runs, it's a breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>in the play. It's the receivers aren't getting open. And

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it's my turn to say what they do, what

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do poorly, I mean, what they don't do well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be they don't they don't make plays,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get open and just and really have the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they have to work for everything that they do,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like even the big plays the past to Bryce,

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<v Speaker 1>the three passes to Bryce, the two in the Cardinal game,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one, I mean, it's like it's not perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not how they're drawing it up that you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like playground football, right, and and that works. But

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't have these guys that they can just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, run away from people. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they have dynamic players. And the best one is Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks like he's you know, not he's lost

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a step or he's gained a

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<v Speaker 1>few pounds or whatever it is. He doesn't look exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same. He still looks like the tough, bruising running back,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the guy breaking away from people. And they

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't have any receivers that are just going to

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<v Speaker 1>just make their own play in the open field and

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<v Speaker 1>take a ten yard play and make it sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The difference with Zeke, in my opinion is

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so much that I don't think he's lost

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<v Speaker 1>a step or anything like that. I think for him,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've noticed this year, it's different. Last year, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he had outstanding vision. This year, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>number of plays where it's almost like the hole is

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<v Speaker 1>there and he decides not to take the hole as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to he'll just kind of run into run into

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<v Speaker 1>traffic as opposed to taking the hole that that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. Now Again, sometimes when you're looking from

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<v Speaker 1>up high, you see things that it's not fair to

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of say that they should see the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. But but that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I saw from him last year I thought was so outstanding,

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<v Speaker 1>was as a vision, and he would he would see

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<v Speaker 1>things that even sometimes you couldn't see that he would

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<v Speaker 1>see at a little crease and he'd get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this year that's been more of the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I've noticed about him that seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. Has anybody else noticed that? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I sit right next to you in the

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<v Speaker 1>press box. I see when we both are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why do you go that way? So you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there has been some of that. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>that might be the coaching of hey, run the play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is this is where it's supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't coach a guy like that, A guy like that

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<v Speaker 1>that's that dynamic. You don't coach him by saying just

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<v Speaker 1>run the play like you. You want him to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see things and be able to make adjustments. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's his advisor. Maybe we're that during game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe he needs it. I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it's and that's you know. I've argued with with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I watch I watched the tape with him

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<v Speaker 1>every Monday. I come here earlier than I need to

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I can see it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any one thing you can point it

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I've seen Zeke misreads from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him stops for a three yard game because

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle's guide got a hand on him, or the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole collapsed because they just didn't get enough push. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think, And that's the thing with the

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<v Speaker 1>running game. It's in the NFL. Everything has to happen

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly for you to get the result you want. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I mean, it's incredibly rare to see NFL teams

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<v Speaker 1>break runs of more than about twenty five yards. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in college. So I just think on any given

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<v Speaker 1>number of plays there's just enough things that aren't happening perfectly,

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<v Speaker 1>and if anything, that's kind of gives me confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>this thing can still get better because the only the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that simulates this is playing games. And I

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<v Speaker 1>and Zeke, to his credit, he's twenty two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so impressed when he said that. He's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this takes time. You want to be peeking toward mid

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<v Speaker 1>to late season anyway, and obviously nobody wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>two and three. But if we're sitting here calling one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty three yards against a playoff team a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day, that gives me confidence that it can get better.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it looks it clearly has looked better

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<v Speaker 1>over the last three weeks than it did in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two even I think against the Giants, what Zeke's

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<v Speaker 1>longest run in that game was eight yards, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you've seen again, you've seen those flashes. You

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't seen them put it together over a substantial

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<v Speaker 1>period of time. But I do have confidence that they

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<v Speaker 1>can still get it on the level they want it.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the topic of the offensive line, and just

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<v Speaker 1>from what you've seen on film, Nick, from what you've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>number what you've seen in games. Is it also, I

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<v Speaker 1>know no one talks about this all the easy target

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<v Speaker 1>is left guard, right tackle. Is it also a part

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<v Speaker 1>of this that other guys I'm talking about, your all

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<v Speaker 1>pro guys haven't had haven't had their best five games

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<v Speaker 1>here either, And that's part of what's happening with this

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. It's not just those other two positions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that the offensive line as a whole. You know, Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick has had some costly penalties at times. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there have been moments. I've seen some moments when when

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Martins had some struggles, particularly when they played the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>So have there been some of the guys that you

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<v Speaker 1>rely on to be great that haven't quite been great?

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<v Speaker 1>And that also has affected how good this offensive line is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Jason Witten has been a really good He's

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<v Speaker 1>been a good blocker over the course of his career

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<v Speaker 1>based on the fact that he has been an outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and standing tight end. You know, we call him

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<v Speaker 1>a complete tight end because he's great at getting open,

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<v Speaker 1>great at catching the ball. He's reliable there and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a good blocker. Will that's a good thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not But he has never been dominant, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not been his thing. And there's not many great wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiving you know, or receiving tight ends that are great

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<v Speaker 1>at blocking. That's what makes him so good and so special.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen years into his career. Does he does he have

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<v Speaker 1>some issues sometimes blocking? Yeah? Does he have penalties? Yeah?

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>He does. And you know, do we give him a passport? Yeah,

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because because we know that at the end of the day,

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's what you do. Von Miller leads

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the league I think in all sides. But you live

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>with that because of what he can do, and for

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the most part, you know, that's what you expect at

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a Witten. But he hasn't been catching the ball as much,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a product of it's too easy.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's not you know, like they're thinking, we got

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>all these plays that we draw up during the week

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that can get this, we can go this. But Witten

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>going seven yards turned around, clapping his hands and I'm

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>right here, it's pretty easy. And you could just go

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>up and down the field when you want to. And

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that's why there's no secret that when when they're down

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>by ten points in the fourth quarter and they don't

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>just need to get a drive going that it's just

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Witting for twelve, Witten for six, Witten for eight. Because

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it's open. Why why why wait till you need it

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to go? Do it? And that's what they kind of

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>did last week. They just started moving the ball with him.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>But you're talking about the blocking. You're talking about Witting

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and the other guys blocking and those tight ends. Yeah,

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think swam in Hannah just blow

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>people off the ball either. You know, they're blocking tight ends.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Really aren't that they're They're really not that great a

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>blocking tight ends. That's kind of a problem. The other thing,

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>And I hate to sound like I'm piling on because

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>again for the millionth time, I don't think Cooper Green

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 1>or Lyle Collins have been terrible. I don't think they've

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>been bad by any stretch. They're learning how to be

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>starters and hold their own. They're not all pros. That's okay.

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>But I think that has I mean, that has a

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>ripple effect, and if you watch it you can see it.

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, last year t Frederick is probably one hundred

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>percent confident that Ronald Learry's going to handle his business. Now,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so much. Maybe I'm looking over here and

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 1>making sure you know, Cooper Green doesn't doesn't need help,

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>isn't missing his block or whatever. Same thing goes with

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Chaz and Lyle maybe, or you know, if you see

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a twist stunt and they're they're moving directions and all

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff, you know, Jonathan Cooper is not

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>going to handle that as well as Ronald Leary does

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and that has an effect on the guy that has

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to play next to him, and you can see that stuff.

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So I hate to say that, you know, maybe Travis

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Frederick and Zach Martin aren't as good because the guys

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 1>they're working with aren't is good. But I think there's

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>some validity to that too. And you know, again, it

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that it'll be this way all year, but

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a step by step process,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think you can go back to the summer

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and listen to us say it's not as easy as

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>just plugging guys in when you got two thirds of

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the guys different. I guess what you're saying is that

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that takes some coordination and you're hopeful at least that

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>over the next several games they'll get better at that

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>with time and that Jael, that that line being able

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to gel as a unit. I really I do feel

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>good that I'm beyond confident that they'll be better at

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season than they are right now.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Whether that'll amount to them, you know, just tearing off

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>eight wins in a row, I have no idea, but

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the way football works. If you're a good team

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>with good players, you get better as the year goes on.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>And how often do you not even recognize the team

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you saw in September ye by you know, November December.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take our final break. We're gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the defensive side of the ball. We

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.120
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0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.719
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0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.239
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<v Speaker 1>take it away? Oh yeah, tell me John's mask comodos.

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand that. You say you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>going uncomfortable, I think, yeah, tell me John? Uh, how

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<v Speaker 1>Ye slogan, Yeah, good slogan. There you go. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for that. Nick, all right, let's

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>get back into it. We're talking about the Cowboys. We

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>took two segments to talk about the offense and what

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>they do well and what they don't do so well.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Now let's flip over to the defensive side of the ball.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And I could only find it personally. I could only

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>find one thing that I could point out that this

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>team does really well on the defensive side of the ball.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Does anybody wants to take a wild guess of what

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that would be? Get like a guy named DeMarcus to

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>rush the quarterback in second get thing, Go get sacks

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and get sacks that don't ultimately matter because that happens

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we need Well, they don't matter in the in the outcome,

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>but they certainly matter. I think I think they've had

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>sacks in parts of games where they needed sacks. I

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's smart ass, I know, but I'm just saying.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying I think that, and that has been a

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>criticism people have leveled against pass rushers here at the

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.959
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys for years. But I think they are actually getting

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>sacks in meaningful moments of games. I do agree with

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>your point to some degree, even though it was kind

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of facetious that you know, they it hasn't mattered getting

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>sacks doesn't matter at the end of the day, or

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>hasn't mattered at the end of the day when it

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>comes to wins and loss us for this team. The

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>best play of this pass rush has made this season

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>might be the one they made in Denver where they

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>sacked Simon and forced the fumble that led to a touchdown,

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 1>and that certainly didn't matter. Yeah, I mean, I think

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that if Tyron Crawford gets the football that's sitting right

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>down by his feet against the Rams, I mean, first

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>play of the third quarter, DeMarcus comes off the edge

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and did that. But you know, when the game's on

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the line, you're gonna in Aaron Rodgers is driving seventy

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>five yards. You know, that's where you wanted to beat

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>your guy and go and tackle them, and Vincent Mayowa

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>had a chance. You know, how much are we talking

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>about the pass rush if he I mean this is

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>an if, but he's got two hands on him. If

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he can knock him down, if he if he knocked,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>if he tackles him for the for the sack. Now,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Bevinson Mayo was getting into the act. He got some

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>pressure on you know. Now they had to rush Mason

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Crosby on the field for a forty something yard field

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>goal with time running out. Does he make it? Does

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>he not? Did the Cowboys go over to you know,

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>who knows what happens? Then Mike correct and assuming well,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they had a timeout, didn't they so? And that end

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of game drive, I don't think so. I mean, I

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>think they used their they used it. I think they

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>used it after that I did. Are you talking about

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the Packers the final drive? They did have a timeout,

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>they use the time out that they they used it.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying with third and eight and was on

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>his scramble run all right, they had they had called

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>their time. If they if he gets if he sacks

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.959
<v Speaker 1>him there, they're gonna run their guys onto the field

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>with They're not gonna be You're not gonna be like

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a you know, fire drill. They're going to go out

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>there and kick the field goal. Yeah, but you're also

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>still talking about a kicker that had already missed twice. Yeah.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So demarc DeMarcus has a sack in every game this season, right,

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at least one. Yeah, DeMarcus is great. He's leading the

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>league with eight and a half. Tyrone Crawford has chipped

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>in a little bit. MALIEK Collins is doing his thing.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not getting the sacks that I would admit that

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought he'd beginning, but I think it's fair to

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>say he's having an impact. But Bourbon got two in

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>his got back in his first game. But MALIEK Collins

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>is on pace for I think eight. Yeah, I mean

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a great scene for defensive tackle. Absolutely thinks that

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>two and a half right, I think two of the

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>two and a half came in the same game, for

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever that's worth. But I get your count account um.

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>The front four has been surprisingly good, I would say,

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.959
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. It's hard for me to praise

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>him too much though, because they they're getting pressure, but

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>is it amounting to anything that's and that's I mean

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they get pressure and the pass is still completed, or

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>they get pressure and it's a delayed handoff and Aaron

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Jones rips off sixteen yards. I guess it's kind of

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that age old question is like what's better a better

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>pass rush that makes your secondary look better or a

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>better secondary that makes your pass rush, you know, mitigates

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're not that good. The pass rush

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>is doing its job, I would say through the first

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>month of the season, and it doesn't. I mean the

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>defense is it doesn't. It's not helping, you know, it's

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>look any better. What's weird about this team is that

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>the positions that typically get covered up because you can

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>provide help to them are actually the positions that are

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>hurting this team. Usually left guard, that's not a spot

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that's a big deal, but in this case, you know,

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's been a difference, and I think the guys are struggling.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Right tackles another spot you can give some help to,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's a it's a problem area. On defense, the

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>linebackers are typically a spot where you can kind of like,

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>as long as you cover things up, you can be

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>all right. Backers have been a problem, mainly with Sean

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Lee's out, Jalen Smith has. You know, let's that's something

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 1>that I think needs to be said, because somebody, really,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>somebody really pissed me off on a rant. No it's

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not a ramt, but somebody pissed me off because

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>they said Jalen Smith is like a wasted pick. Uh.

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's a little bit too far. I know, it's

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so beyond far um And Okay, So first of all,

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it's you are seeing the signs of where Jalen Smith

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is at as a player. It's phenomenal the progress that

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>he's made and where he got to this point. And

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I was saying this the other day though, I mean,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like jumping up from from rookie level

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on Madden to All Pro with the thought that he

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>was playing no more than like twenty snaps in the preseason,

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and then he's one of your starting linebackers, looked good

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>doing it against the Giants, and then all of a sudden,

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee goes out, this guy's playing sixty seventy snaps

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a game. And I don't mean it as and I'm

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>not trying to slight him when I say it just

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like he's ready to be the number thirty

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>four overall pick. And that's not his fault. He's recovering

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>from a catastrophic injury. I honestly, I'm not sure it's

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>fair to him to be putting him out there for

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the number of snaps that he's that is that he

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 1>had done necessity and and and it's it's completely out

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of necessity. Um but in past coverage you saw it

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams. I mean it was out there for

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody to see. And I don't think it's a coincidence

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that with your top two linebackers being out of out

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of these games, even when the offense has been playing well,

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>they've been getting run all over. Um. You know, no

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 1>disrespect to Aaron Jones, but I can't believe how well

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the Packers ran the ball in that game. Um. So,

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, I do I think Jalen Smith

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>is a bad player or a wasted pick. Hell No,

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I think as he continues to get healthier and get

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>playing time, and especially looking into like twenty eighteen and beyond,

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I still think he can be a really good football player.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>He's not ready for that yet, and I think these

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 1>last two games specifically have have emphasized that point. Yeah,

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, obviously, I mean, I echo everything. You're

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just saying about the great story, but he's you know,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it's hurting the team, like him being out there in

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>certain areas they figured out how they if teams are like,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's run him sideline to sideline and

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be able to catch him. And

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you were saying it earlier about the angles.

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what you think you can get because you

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>did it two years ago. There's a guy running, I

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>can go, you know, I can take this angle and

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>tackle him. Well that's not the case anymore because you know,

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.720
<v Speaker 1>he's never played at one hundred percent in the NFL,

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>so speed is still something he's having to adjust to.

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:49.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know, all right, maybe this is a little

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of a rant. That's That's something that aggravates me that,

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, people seem like they're incapable of seeing things

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in shades of gray, like it's always got to be

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>black or white. Jalen Smith has to be an injured

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>guy who can't contribute, or an all pro like as

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>soon as he gets the green light to play, that

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>means he's ready to be that beast that we all

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>saw on tape at Notre Dame. That's not how this works.

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you're great, he's got the green light to play.

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 1>He looked good in the preseason. Him and Sean Lee,

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be all pros side by side. We got

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the best linebacker corp in the NFL. That's not the

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>way this works. And it's a lengthy process to come

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>back from something like that, even when you are capable

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of playing so and he's not all the way completely bad.

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>That's even at the beginning of the season. The person

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.720
<v Speaker 1>they even said like, he still doesn't have complete feeling

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>in that exactly. And when he's trying to take an

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>angle on a running back hitting the corner, you can

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>see it. And again, I'm not trying to hate on

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy. That's just the reality of the situation. I

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>still think he can be a damn good player. I

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>still think all of the you know, all of these

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>things considered, I think he's he's been pretty impressive just

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in what he's been able to do from not playing

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>for a year and a half. And for people to

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>kill him for not being ready to play at a

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl level right off the bat, that's bs and

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>stupid and you need to have a more nuanced view

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of the way these things work well. I think that

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you also got to remember that what the fans have

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to go off of, that's he's a draft pick from

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>last year's class, where those two guys who were playing

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>around at the Pro Bowl last year, Zeke and Dak

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>first year to come in, you know, they're they're all World,

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 1>All Pro and they make it to the Pro Bowl.

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I'm not saying it's fair, but I'm

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that's what that's what the people were thinking. MALIEK. Collins,

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>third round pick, you know what, didn't even play in

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the offseason, had a great season. Same with Anthony and

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, respecting that our show shouldn't but

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they are our show and our other shows, and really

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 1>any reputable source of Cowboys information is way more likely

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to give you this you know, wait and see, patient,

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>step by step approach, which maybe that's frustrating to hear,

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 1>but but that's the way this thing works. So you know,

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to immediately heap those type of expectations on the guy

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just because you know what he was at Notre Dame,

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>it's not fair to him. It's really it's not fair

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to anybody in the situation. It goes back to the coaching, then,

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, if he's not ready to play right now,

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>then he shouldn't have to play. He's clearly ready to play,

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but not at that but not at that level right

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>at that at that at that amount or that level

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>to be I mean he playing, like you said, playing

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty seventy plays a game. He's not ready for that.

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that the Cowboys are feel like they're

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in a position based upon personnel that they have, based

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>upon injuries, whatever, they feel like they have to put

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 1>him out there, that says to me that that's a

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that's an issue of the front office and coaching, whether

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it is an issue Jay Smith, and you're playing the Rams,

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they underestimated the Rams, but they went into

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the game with four linebackers, which no one does that,

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and around the league they have four because they had

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>two guys hurt. But they should have gotten some help

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in here. Because of those four, one of them should

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>not be playing. Sixties seventy snaps. He's coming off an

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>injury that many people thought he would never play again.

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Another guy didn't even play all of the offseason. He retired.

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Now he's not retired. That's justin Durant anytime you do.

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You're dealing with a guy like that. I means he's

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna play a ton of snaps. Kyle wilbur has

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>never been a guy that's played a lot. He's been

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>more of a special teams guy. And then you've got

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Damien Wilson who's still kind of you know, he's playing well,

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but he's kind of learning how to do that. Those

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>are your four linebackers. And then he got gashed by

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley in the passing game, in the running game,

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're surprised by it. I mean, get some help

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if these guys aren't ready. It's the same reminds me

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Bears right now, the Bears fans, Is this

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>as good as Trubisky is gonna be? No, that he's

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 1>a young guy. Okay, that was pretty good. You gotta

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 1>be patient with him. But they even got some help

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>with a backup quarterback to say we'll ease him into

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. And you just can't. Like you said,

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you saying about the gray area. There's

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 1>no gray area there. There should be with Jalen Smith.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>But the Cowboys, they don't have to throw him out there.

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>There's guys out there. You can sign. I guess you

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 1>can get the linebacker you could have made. You could

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>have kept Nazaci on the team if you wanted to,

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you'd have to cut him. So I agree with everything

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you just said, but basically, and that's not going to

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>be a cure all. But this defense needs Sean Lee

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>and Anthony Hitchins to both be healthy and playing to

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>resemble the and again they weren't world beaters last year,

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>but to resemble that average average unit. Thank you. I

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.399
<v Speaker 1>couldn't think of the right word if if they want

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>to be average too above average, they need those two

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.359
<v Speaker 1>guys there. And that's weird to say because I think

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in this day and age, with the way the NFL

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is linebackers the least important position on the defense. But

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think back to the fourth and two

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>fake handoff crack toss that the Packers converted. Sean Lee

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is there. I don't know if he gets the stop,

0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>but like it's got a chance instead of going for

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 1>six yards the way it did. So those guys can

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 1>help you clean up a lot of mistakes. When you

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>look at all the all the things a defense does

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're not doing well. The one that I look

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>at that, I think could have as big of an

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.760
<v Speaker 1>impact as anything else outside of points per game obviously,

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:20.240
<v Speaker 1>because that's winning and losing, right, But their turnover differential

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.760
<v Speaker 1>right now, they're negative three. They're twenty sixth in the NFL.

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is not a team. Sometimes turnover differentials about

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the offense giving the ball away too much. As we

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>taught here earlier, they haven't had a bunch of turnovers

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side of the ball. It means that

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the defense is not pulling their their weight. They're not

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball back to the offense with short yardage

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>by turnovers. This twenty fifteen or twenty thirteen. But that's

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>my point, and so I want to ask you guys,

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like how important is that? And is this defense never

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to be good enough if they

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>can't get to the point where they can get turnovers consistently. Yeah,

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>because they're not going to really just go out and

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>stop people. So yeah, you got to get the football

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>out and it's not I think all of their turnovers

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:04.240
<v Speaker 1>are interceptions, right, I mean they had a Fumbel recovery

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in Denver. Oh, yes, yeah, Marcus, that's right. I was

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>let's say I mean they're not getting the ball out.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's they're not though, I mean not especially

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>when they practice it as much as they like. It

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>seems like every play in training camp, it's like it

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>seems they forced more funnels in practice in training camp

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>than I've seen them do in games. It seems with

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the way the pass rush has gotten home so far

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>this year, you'd think they'd be and and they did.

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>They got the ball out against the Rams. They didn't

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.879
<v Speaker 1>recover it. They did it against Denver, but even still,

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you think they could do it more. And they haven't

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>had a pick since Week two, which was just a

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 1>nice catch by Jordan Lewis on a drastic overthrow. I'll

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>take it. I'm at this point you will. But if

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you think back, you think back to Week one, Anthony

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Brown made a really nice read on a play and

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 1>made a really nice interception, and I we even said,

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we were like, that's the type of pick this defense

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>hasn't gotten in years, because usually when the Dallas Cowboys

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>get a pick, the quarterback threw it right to them.

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't see guys routes or diagnosed plays. And

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually think it even goes to and I'll talk

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 1>to you about this yesterday, Nick. I think one of

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the biggest problems for this defense is a safety position.

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:11.280
<v Speaker 1>And think about how many times you watch other games

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>teams around the league where you see safeties patrolling the

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>back end that run over, they diagnose a play, they

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>run over, they jump right in front of the receiver

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 1>at the right moment and get the interception. Yeah. I

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.959
<v Speaker 1>can't even tell you the last time I've seen those

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of plays on this team. I can, and it's well,

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it's perfectly indicative of the Cowboys. I've talked about it

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Jeff, he did it in Arizona.

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>He dropped the ball and Orlando Scanderd got flagged, so

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:36.919
<v Speaker 1>it didn't even count and count right, let's talk about

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>when it counting. That's just not sounded. That's not something

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that this team has. And that goes back to last

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>year too, like they had. I thought the safety position

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>played really well, but that wasn't something you used to

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<v Speaker 1>sing this team do. Is safeties just being able to

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<v Speaker 1>patrol the field and get those kinds of picks when

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<v Speaker 1>when their opportunities to diagnose a play, get in position

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<v Speaker 1>and make the play. It's just not something they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think until they get a safety that really

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<v Speaker 1>has that ability on the back end, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>hard for this defense to be able to get the

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers that they need. Yeah, we thought Jeff Heath would

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<v Speaker 1>be better through five games. We thought Byron Jones would

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<v Speaker 1>be better. And now I'm starting to think Byron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is more of a of a corner I mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've for three years, I've been saying he's safety, he's safety,

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<v Speaker 1>and they moved him to safety. I was like, yeah, safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now every time he gets pushed around by tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, maybe he should just be a corner

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<v Speaker 1>iron kind of something. Byron confounds me because through this

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<v Speaker 1>point in the season last year, he had racked up

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<v Speaker 1>four or five really badass plays like the play he

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<v Speaker 1>made against the Bengals in Week five last year where

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<v Speaker 1>he just kind of poked that, I mean, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did that three or four times. Really nice plays. You

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<v Speaker 1>haven't you haven't seen it this year, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't know why I might come out Ah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tongue tied just trying to talk about it. I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>a loss for why it hasn't why he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to take another step forward because I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would and his play through. You know, people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of roll their eyes at us for talking about training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>like we watched this stuff every day and he looked

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing stuff like that. He was diagnosing plays

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<v Speaker 1>and picking off Dak in the end zone and coming

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<v Speaker 1>across the field to help out with the corners. And

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<v Speaker 1>you just haven't seen it translate to the games. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't at this point. I don't really know. The

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<v Speaker 1>other Sorry, one more thing I'll throw out is hey

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<v Speaker 1>against you know a lot like MALIEK. Collins last year,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of wrote off MALIEK. Collins like, well, he

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<v Speaker 1>broke his foot, he won't be able to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Way wrong about that. Jordan Lewis didn't practice all through

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. You think that's going to set him back

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<v Speaker 1>his rookie season, Not at all. I don't care that's

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<v Speaker 1>when they got out there. I don't care that he

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<v Speaker 1>gave up that touchdown. He's been phenomenal. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>sky's the limit for that guy. Cheeto hasn't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to get in on that conversation because he can't get

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<v Speaker 1>his hamstring right and so that's potentially half of your secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think Cheetos good enough to claim a starting

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<v Speaker 1>spot somewhere, that's two of your four dbs that could

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully help you revamp this thing, and one of them

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to get on the field, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really disappointing. But to me, until the safeties, until you

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<v Speaker 1>get better, more consistent play from the safeties, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this thing can get better because that that's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be not only in the passing game, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the running game. Every been just as many times

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen those two guys either make bad take bad angles,

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<v Speaker 1>or slip it fall miss a tackle. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reminded of the play where Byron kind of got the

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<v Speaker 1>guy running at him and he kind of takes on

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<v Speaker 1>the defender as opposed to heading toward the guy bit

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the ball. I mean, it's it's those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>moments where it's just like, until they get more consistent play,

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<v Speaker 1>more consistently good play from their safety position, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to continue to be a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>for the defense of them being able to get stops regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not an all pro, but I think Barry Church

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<v Speaker 1>is so early missed around he is now. I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>to be very optimistic throughout this whole time, but at

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<v Speaker 1>this point I just don't have anything nice to say,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I kept my mouth shut right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll go off and lose it. But aside from

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith and the pass rush everyone else, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything nice to say. All right, We'll go back

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<v Speaker 1>and correct, Thank you, apprecis you guys Jonas. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back tomorrow morning. Nine thirty are normal time till then

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