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Speaker 1: Wait Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Am bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October ninth, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number fifty three. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break Guy. AM Derek Eagleton and joined by

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. We're life from the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking Cowboys football.

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Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday, it's the bye week, and so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to take a little bigger picture look today

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Speaker 1: at what's going on with this team and try to

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Speaker 1: answer some questions for you guys, with the big overall

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Speaker 1: theme being that we're gonna look at this team and

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Speaker 1: look at the things that they've done well so far,

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Speaker 1: the things they haven't done well so far, and try

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Speaker 1: to answer some questions around how they can be better

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Speaker 1: going down the stretch, how they can be better to

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Speaker 1: position themselves for playoff run. How's everybody doing this morning? Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good good, I'm great, good, awesome. It don't

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Speaker 1: I look phenomenal, really really good stuff. Thanks Dave. We

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Speaker 1: can tell thank you. All right. Let's let's jump right

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Speaker 1: in and I guess the first thing I wanted to

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Speaker 1: little bit. This NFC East after five weeks is looking,

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Speaker 1: I think, very different than probably what most people expected

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Speaker 1: it looks different than what I thought. Um I thought

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Speaker 1: of the division. Right now. The Giants are sitting at

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Speaker 1: if they haven't already. They've now lost three wide receivers

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think about this division right now? Drinking?

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Speaker 1: What do you think that we're both drinking? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: something to say. I thought he meant, like the different

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Speaker 1: They dominated an NFL team, the Giants all of their

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Speaker 1: But now do you think differently from this Giants team?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. The Cowboys played played their best game of

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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome back. It's the second second

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Speaker 1: of the Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. We're trying to fix this team. We've now

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. I think that's what we're doing. I

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Speaker 1: think here in the bye week, it's up to us

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Speaker 1: to try to figure out what's going on. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that we can come out of this show

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Speaker 1: with some good pointers that then I can take over

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Speaker 1: to Coach Garrett's office after I leave here and just

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Speaker 1: like throw him down on his desk and say, here

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Speaker 1: you go. We're trying to fix this team. Why we

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Speaker 1: spend the first part of it talking about the offense,

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Speaker 1: because well, because there's there's always whenever you whenever you

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Speaker 1: look at a particular situation, you should always look at

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Speaker 1: all the positives and the negatives on both on all

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Speaker 1: of her sides. So then you figure out what you're

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Speaker 1: doing well, keep doing that, what you're not doing well.

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Speaker 1: You always tell someone about their positives before you, before

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Speaker 1: you Yeah, I got it, all right, So let's flip that, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Since this is your area of expertise, tell me what's

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Speaker 1: going wrong with this offense? What do they not do well?

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Speaker 1: So far? My area of expertise is being negative kind

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Speaker 1: of yeah, uh okay, sure, Yeah, I mean that's fair.

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Speaker 1: You're okay with that? Yeah, their offensive line is it's

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Speaker 1: just not it's not what it was. And I think

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Speaker 1: there were there were plenty of concerns about that in

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Speaker 1: the off season, and they they have proven to be true. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're they're fine, they're fine, they run the ball, fine,

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Speaker 1: they protect Dak pretty well, as you said, I mean, okay, okay, again,

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Speaker 1: they're okay, Like they're pretty good, which is good in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but not compared to the Great Wall of Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Like this is enough, it's not, it's not again. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say this, and I just I'm sorry. I feel

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Speaker 1: like a broken record. This team has a lot of flaws,

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Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive side of the ball. You have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback who's playing damn well, but is not on

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Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers level where he can mask all kinds

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Speaker 1: of deficiencies. Your defense, Your defense was not great last year.

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Speaker 1: It's not any better this year. If this team is

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Speaker 1: going to be good, it's because the offense is going

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Speaker 1: to be a well oiled machine that just zips up

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Speaker 1: and down the field, runs the ball at will, and

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Speaker 1: scores whenever it wants to's was that not the recipe

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Speaker 1: for success last year and they're not doing it this year,

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Speaker 1: and so all those flaws come to the surface when

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Speaker 1: that's not happening. And yeah, the receivers haven't been great.

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Speaker 1: Dak has made more mistakes this year than he did

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Speaker 1: last year. But I think you can trace a lot

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Speaker 1: of that back to the offensive line. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: just dictated football games the way it did last year.

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Speaker 1: What do they not do so well offensively? Well, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing I haven't said already, to be honest. It goes

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Speaker 1: back to the offensive line. We talked about it again.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I would get a lot of

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Speaker 1: messages on Twitter it's like, can't you stop talking about

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Speaker 1: the offensive line? They're fine, blah blah blah throughout this

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Speaker 1: whole process. But I don't know if you guys remember

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Speaker 1: I think it was how I heard over from that

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Speaker 1: side of the building, you know, from the Cowboys side,

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Speaker 1: how that was their biggest concern this offseason was that

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Speaker 1: offensive line, the guard position and left tackle, And it

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Speaker 1: clearly has been. You know, a lot of people didn't

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Speaker 1: expect that two guys would really make a difference in

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Speaker 1: between all those older pro bowler guys, but they have

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Speaker 1: and it's shown, and thank god Dak has been able

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Speaker 1: to do what he's done to manage this game and

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Speaker 1: keep it moving. What's been a bigger hindrance for this

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Speaker 1: offensive line the guard position or the tackle position well again.

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Speaker 1: For example, Lyle Collins. I'm still not to where he's

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Speaker 1: at right now. He does good things, but it's just

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Speaker 1: not perfect just yet. And I don't blame him for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with the job he's doing so far. He's

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Speaker 1: managed well, and Chas Green is still kind of iffy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's well. I mean Jonathan Cooper also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, has played the last two games. But with him,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it really that much different than Chas Green.

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Speaker 1: They're basically very close to being the same. Chas Green

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Speaker 1: probably I don't think it would have been any different really,

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Speaker 1: I mean all training camp was kind of back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and you could ask twenty different people and you probably got,

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Speaker 1: you know, ten ten, not you know, eleven nine on

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Speaker 1: Cooper or Green. It's that close, and when we've seen it,

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Speaker 1: you know, play it play out, it hasn't been in

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Speaker 1: that much different. I don't think, I mean with Cooper

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Speaker 1: that they have scored thirty points you know, in these

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Speaker 1: in these last two games. I mean, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's with Cooper doing it. I'm just saying they've they've done,

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Speaker 1: all right, It's just sorry, it's just strange to say

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Speaker 1: because they I mean, they finished with a hundred. It's

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Speaker 1: the same thing as the Rams game. They finished one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three rushing yards. That's outstanding by NFL standards.

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Speaker 1: But you we all know that that that Zeke had

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Speaker 1: what thirty heading into the fourth quarter or something close

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Speaker 1: to that, and that's that's just not going to cut it,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. And the rushing yards too, I think

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Speaker 1: that is you know when you say with four point

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Speaker 1: seven and all that, and obviously one of those is

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Speaker 1: a really big run by by Morris, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of it too is Dak. I mean Dak's running, you know,

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Speaker 1: for ten twelve yards every time when when he breaks free,

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Speaker 1: and you know that they obviously count to the rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: but most of the time he runs, it's a breakdown

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Speaker 1: in the play. It's the receivers aren't getting open. And

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Speaker 1: whenever it's my turn to say what they do, what

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Speaker 1: they don't do poorly, I mean, what they don't do well.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be they don't they don't make plays,

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Speaker 1: they don't get open and just and really have the

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have to work for everything that they do,

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Speaker 1: it seems like even the big plays the past to Bryce,

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Speaker 1: the three passes to Bryce, the two in the Cardinal game,

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Speaker 1: and this one, I mean, it's like it's not perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's not how they're drawing it up that you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like playground football, right, and and that works. But

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Speaker 1: they just don't have these guys that they can just

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Speaker 1: you know, run away from people. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: they have dynamic players. And the best one is Zeke,

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Speaker 1: and he looks like he's you know, not he's lost

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Speaker 1: few pounds or whatever it is. He doesn't look exactly

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Speaker 1: the same. He still looks like the tough, bruising running back,

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Speaker 1: but not the guy breaking away from people. And they

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Speaker 1: definitely don't have any receivers that are just going to

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Speaker 1: just make their own play in the open field and

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Speaker 1: take a ten yard play and make it sixty five.

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Speaker 1: You know. The difference with Zeke, in my opinion is

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Speaker 1: it's not so much that I don't think he's lost

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Speaker 1: a step or anything like that. I think for him,

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Speaker 1: what I've noticed this year, it's different. Last year, I

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Speaker 1: thought he had outstanding vision. This year, I've seen a

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Speaker 1: number of plays where it's almost like the hole is

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Speaker 1: opposed to he'll just kind of run into run into

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Speaker 1: traffic as opposed to taking the hole that that seems

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Speaker 1: to be there. Now Again, sometimes when you're looking from

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Speaker 1: up high, you see things that it's not fair to

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Speaker 1: to kind of say that they should see the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing. But but that was one of the things

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Speaker 1: I saw from him last year I thought was so outstanding,

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Speaker 1: was as a vision, and he would he would see

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Speaker 1: things that even sometimes you couldn't see that he would

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Speaker 1: see at a little crease and he'd get into it.

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Speaker 1: I think this year that's been more of the thing

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Speaker 1: that I've noticed about him that seems to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. Has anybody else noticed that? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I sit right next to you in the

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Speaker 1: press box. I see when we both are like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, why do you go that way? So you're right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there has been some of that. Some of

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Speaker 1: that might be the coaching of hey, run the play,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is where it's supposed to go.

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Speaker 1: Can't coach a guy like that, A guy like that

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Speaker 1: that's that dynamic. You don't coach him by saying just

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Speaker 1: run the play like you. You want him to be

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Speaker 1: able to see things and be able to make adjustments. Right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's his advisor. Maybe we're that during game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he needs it. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 1: it's and that's you know. I've argued with with Brian

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Speaker 1: about this. I watch I watched the tape with him

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Speaker 1: every Monday. I come here earlier than I need to

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Speaker 1: to make sure that I can see it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any one thing you can point it

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Speaker 1: on it. I've seen Zeke misreads from time to time.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him stops for a three yard game because

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Speaker 1: Lyle's guide got a hand on him, or the you know,

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Speaker 1: the whole collapsed because they just didn't get enough push. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think, And that's the thing with the

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Speaker 1: perfectly for you to get the result you want. That's

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Speaker 1: why I mean, it's incredibly rare to see NFL teams

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Speaker 1: break runs of more than about twenty five yards. This

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Speaker 1: number of plays there's just enough things that aren't happening perfectly,

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Speaker 1: and if anything, that's kind of gives me confidence that

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Speaker 1: this thing can still get better because the only the

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Speaker 1: only thing that simulates this is playing games. And I

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Speaker 1: and Zeke, to his credit, he's twenty two years old.

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Speaker 1: I was so impressed when he said that. He's like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this takes time. You want to be peeking toward mid

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Speaker 1: to late season anyway, and obviously nobody wants to be

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Speaker 1: two and three. But if we're sitting here calling one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three yards against a playoff team a

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Speaker 1: bad day, that gives me confidence that it can get better.

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Speaker 1: And I think it looks it clearly has looked better

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Speaker 1: over the last three weeks than it did in the

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Speaker 1: first two even I think against the Giants, what Zeke's

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Speaker 1: longest run in that game was eight yards, I think.

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Speaker 1: And so you've seen again, you've seen those flashes. You

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00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: just haven't seen them put it together over a substantial

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00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: period of time. But I do have confidence that they

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00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: can still get it on the level they want it.

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Speaker 1: So on the topic of the offensive line, and just

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Speaker 1: from what you've seen on film, Nick, from what you've seen,

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: number what you've seen in games. Is it also, I

646
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: know no one talks about this all the easy target

647
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: is left guard, right tackle. Is it also a part

648
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: of this that other guys I'm talking about, your all

649
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: pro guys haven't had haven't had their best five games

650
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: here either, And that's part of what's happening with this

651
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: offensive line. It's not just those other two positions. It's

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00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: that the offensive line as a whole. You know, Fred

653
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: Frederick has had some costly penalties at times. I know

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: there have been moments. I've seen some moments when when

655
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Zack Martins had some struggles, particularly when they played the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So have there been some of the guys that you

657
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: rely on to be great that haven't quite been great?

658
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: And that also has affected how good this offensive line is.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jason Witten has been a really good He's

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Speaker 1: been a good blocker over the course of his career

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Speaker 1: based on the fact that he has been an outstanding

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Speaker 1: receiver and standing tight end. You know, we call him

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Speaker 1: a complete tight end because he's great at getting open,

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Speaker 1: great at catching the ball. He's reliable there and he's

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Speaker 1: been a good blocker. Will that's a good thing, but

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Speaker 1: he's not But he has never been dominant, and that's

667
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: not been his thing. And there's not many great wide

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Speaker 1: receiving you know, or receiving tight ends that are great

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Speaker 1: at blocking. That's what makes him so good and so special.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen years into his career. Does he does he have

671
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: some issues sometimes blocking? Yeah? Does he have penalties? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He does. And you know, do we give him a passport? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because because we know that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you do. Von Miller leads

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Speaker 1: the league I think in all sides. But you live

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Speaker 1: with that because of what he can do, and for

677
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Speaker 1: the most part, you know, that's what you expect at

678
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Speaker 1: a Witten. But he hasn't been catching the ball as much,

679
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's a product of it's too easy.

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00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's not you know, like they're thinking, we got

681
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Speaker 1: all these plays that we draw up during the week

682
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Speaker 1: that can get this, we can go this. But Witten

683
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: going seven yards turned around, clapping his hands and I'm

684
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: right here, it's pretty easy. And you could just go

685
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: up and down the field when you want to. And

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00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: that's why there's no secret that when when they're down

687
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: by ten points in the fourth quarter and they don't

688
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: just need to get a drive going that it's just

689
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Witting for twelve, Witten for six, Witten for eight. Because

690
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: it's open. Why why why wait till you need it

691
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: to go? Do it? And that's what they kind of

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: did last week. They just started moving the ball with him.

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about the blocking. You're talking about Witting

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Speaker 1: and the other guys blocking and those tight ends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think swam in Hannah just blow

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00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: people off the ball either. You know, they're blocking tight ends.

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00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Really aren't that they're They're really not that great a

698
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: blocking tight ends. That's kind of a problem. The other thing,

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Speaker 1: And I hate to sound like I'm piling on because

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00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: again for the millionth time, I don't think Cooper Green

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00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: or Lyle Collins have been terrible. I don't think they've

702
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: been bad by any stretch. They're learning how to be

703
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: starters and hold their own. They're not all pros. That's okay.

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00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: But I think that has I mean, that has a

705
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: ripple effect, and if you watch it you can see it.

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00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, last year t Frederick is probably one hundred

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: percent confident that Ronald Learry's going to handle his business. Now,

708
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe not so much. Maybe I'm looking over here and

709
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: making sure you know, Cooper Green doesn't doesn't need help,

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00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: isn't missing his block or whatever. Same thing goes with

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: Chaz and Lyle maybe, or you know, if you see

712
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: a twist stunt and they're they're moving directions and all

713
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, you know, Jonathan Cooper is not

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: going to handle that as well as Ronald Leary does

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00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: and that has an effect on the guy that has

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: to play next to him, and you can see that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I hate to say that, you know, maybe Travis

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00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Frederick and Zach Martin aren't as good because the guys

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Speaker 1: they're working with aren't is good. But I think there's

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Speaker 1: some validity to that too. And you know, again, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it'll be this way all year, but

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Speaker 1: this is a this is a step by step process,

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Speaker 1: and I think you can go back to the summer

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00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: and listen to us say it's not as easy as

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00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: just plugging guys in when you got two thirds of

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00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: the guys different. I guess what you're saying is that

727
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: that takes some coordination and you're hopeful at least that

728
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: over the next several games they'll get better at that

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: with time and that Jael, that that line being able

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00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: to gel as a unit. I really I do feel

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Speaker 1: good that I'm beyond confident that they'll be better at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season than they are right now.

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Speaker 1: Whether that'll amount to them, you know, just tearing off

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Speaker 1: eight wins in a row, I have no idea, but

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Speaker 1: that's the way football works. If you're a good team

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Speaker 1: And how often do you not even recognize the team

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the defensive side of the ball. We

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742
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Speaker 1: take it away? Oh yeah, tell me John's mask comodos.

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. Nick, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: get back into it. We're talking about the Cowboys. We

794
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: took two segments to talk about the offense and what

795
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: they do well and what they don't do so well.

796
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Now let's flip over to the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And I could only find it personally. I could only

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Speaker 1: find one thing that I could point out that this

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Speaker 1: team does really well on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody wants to take a wild guess of what

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Speaker 1: that would be? Get like a guy named DeMarcus to

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Speaker 1: rush the quarterback in second get thing, Go get sacks

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Speaker 1: and get sacks that don't ultimately matter because that happens

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Speaker 1: we need Well, they don't matter in the in the outcome,

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00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: but they certainly matter. I think I think they've had

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Speaker 1: sacks in parts of games where they needed sacks. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's smart ass, I know, but I'm just saying.

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00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think that, and that has been a

809
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Speaker 1: criticism people have leveled against pass rushers here at the

810
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Speaker 1: Cowboys for years. But I think they are actually getting

811
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Speaker 1: sacks in meaningful moments of games. I do agree with

812
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Speaker 1: your point to some degree, even though it was kind

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Speaker 1: of facetious that you know, they it hasn't mattered getting

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00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: sacks doesn't matter at the end of the day, or

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Speaker 1: hasn't mattered at the end of the day when it

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00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: comes to wins and loss us for this team. The

817
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: best play of this pass rush has made this season

818
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: might be the one they made in Denver where they

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Speaker 1: sacked Simon and forced the fumble that led to a touchdown,

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00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: and that certainly didn't matter. Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: that if Tyron Crawford gets the football that's sitting right

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00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: down by his feet against the Rams, I mean, first

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Speaker 1: play of the third quarter, DeMarcus comes off the edge

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00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: and did that. But you know, when the game's on

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Speaker 1: the line, you're gonna in Aaron Rodgers is driving seventy

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Speaker 1: five yards. You know, that's where you wanted to beat

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Speaker 1: your guy and go and tackle them, and Vincent Mayowa

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Speaker 1: had a chance. You know, how much are we talking

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: about the pass rush if he I mean this is

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Speaker 1: an if, but he's got two hands on him. If

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Speaker 1: he can knock him down, if he if he knocked,

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Speaker 1: if he tackles him for the for the sack. Now,

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00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Bevinson Mayo was getting into the act. He got some

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Speaker 1: pressure on you know. Now they had to rush Mason

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Speaker 1: Crosby on the field for a forty something yard field

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Speaker 1: goal with time running out. Does he make it? Does

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Speaker 1: he not? Did the Cowboys go over to you know,

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00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: who knows what happens? Then Mike correct and assuming well,

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Speaker 1: they had a timeout, didn't they so? And that end

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00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: of game drive, I don't think so. I mean, I

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00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: think they used their they used it. I think they

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00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: used it after that I did. Are you talking about

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00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: the Packers the final drive? They did have a timeout,

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Speaker 1: they use the time out that they they used it.

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00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: But I'm saying with third and eight and was on

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00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: his scramble run all right, they had they had called

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00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: their time. If they if he gets if he sacks

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Speaker 1: him there, they're gonna run their guys onto the field

849
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: with They're not gonna be You're not gonna be like

850
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: a you know, fire drill. They're going to go out

851
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: there and kick the field goal. Yeah, but you're also

852
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: still talking about a kicker that had already missed twice. Yeah.

853
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: So demarc DeMarcus has a sack in every game this season, right,

854
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: at least one. Yeah, DeMarcus is great. He's leading the

855
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: league with eight and a half. Tyrone Crawford has chipped

856
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: in a little bit. MALIEK Collins is doing his thing.

857
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: He's not getting the sacks that I would admit that

858
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: I thought he'd beginning, but I think it's fair to

859
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: say he's having an impact. But Bourbon got two in

860
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: his got back in his first game. But MALIEK Collins

861
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: is on pace for I think eight. Yeah, I mean

862
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: that's a great scene for defensive tackle. Absolutely thinks that

863
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: two and a half right, I think two of the

864
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: two and a half came in the same game, for

865
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. But I get your count account um.

866
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: The front four has been surprisingly good, I would say,

867
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's hard for me to praise

868
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: him too much though, because they they're getting pressure, but

869
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: is it amounting to anything that's and that's I mean

870
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: they get pressure and the pass is still completed, or

871
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: they get pressure and it's a delayed handoff and Aaron

872
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: Jones rips off sixteen yards. I guess it's kind of

873
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: that age old question is like what's better a better

874
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: pass rush that makes your secondary look better or a

875
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: better secondary that makes your pass rush, you know, mitigates

876
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not that good. The pass rush

877
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: is doing its job, I would say through the first

878
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: month of the season, and it doesn't. I mean the

879
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: defense is it doesn't. It's not helping, you know, it's

880
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: look any better. What's weird about this team is that

881
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: the positions that typically get covered up because you can

882
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: provide help to them are actually the positions that are

883
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: hurting this team. Usually left guard, that's not a spot

884
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: that's a big deal, but in this case, you know,

885
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: it's been a difference, and I think the guys are struggling.

886
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Right tackles another spot you can give some help to,

887
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a problem area. On defense, the

888
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: linebackers are typically a spot where you can kind of like,

889
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: as long as you cover things up, you can be

890
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: all right. Backers have been a problem, mainly with Sean

891
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: Lee's out, Jalen Smith has. You know, let's that's something

892
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: that I think needs to be said, because somebody, really,

893
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: somebody really pissed me off on a rant. No it's

894
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: it's not a ramt, but somebody pissed me off because

895
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: they said Jalen Smith is like a wasted pick. Uh.

896
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: And that's a little bit too far. I know, it's

897
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: so beyond far um And Okay, So first of all,

898
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: it's you are seeing the signs of where Jalen Smith

899
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: is at as a player. It's phenomenal the progress that

900
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: he's made and where he got to this point. And

901
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: I was saying this the other day though, I mean,

902
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: it's like it's like jumping up from from rookie level

903
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: on Madden to All Pro with the thought that he

904
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: was playing no more than like twenty snaps in the preseason,

905
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: and then he's one of your starting linebackers, looked good

906
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: doing it against the Giants, and then all of a sudden,

907
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: Sean Lee goes out, this guy's playing sixty seventy snaps

908
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: a game. And I don't mean it as and I'm

909
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: not trying to slight him when I say it just

910
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's ready to be the number thirty

911
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: four overall pick. And that's not his fault. He's recovering

912
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: from a catastrophic injury. I honestly, I'm not sure it's

913
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: fair to him to be putting him out there for

914
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: the number of snaps that he's that is that he

915
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: had done necessity and and and it's it's completely out

916
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: of necessity. Um but in past coverage you saw it

917
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: against the Rams. I mean it was out there for

918
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: everybody to see. And I don't think it's a coincidence

919
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: that with your top two linebackers being out of out

920
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: of these games, even when the offense has been playing well,

921
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: they've been getting run all over. Um. You know, no

922
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: disrespect to Aaron Jones, but I can't believe how well

923
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: the Packers ran the ball in that game. Um. So,

924
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: and so you know, I do I think Jalen Smith

925
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: is a bad player or a wasted pick. Hell No,

926
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: I think as he continues to get healthier and get

927
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: playing time, and especially looking into like twenty eighteen and beyond,

928
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: I still think he can be a really good football player.

929
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: He's not ready for that yet, and I think these

930
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: last two games specifically have have emphasized that point. Yeah,

931
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously, I mean, I echo everything. You're

932
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: just saying about the great story, but he's you know,

933
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: it's hurting the team, like him being out there in

934
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: certain areas they figured out how they if teams are like,

935
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: you know what, let's run him sideline to sideline and

936
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to catch him. And

937
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I think you were saying it earlier about the angles.

938
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: You know what you think you can get because you

939
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: did it two years ago. There's a guy running, I

940
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: can go, you know, I can take this angle and

941
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: tackle him. Well that's not the case anymore because you know,

942
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: he's never played at one hundred percent in the NFL,

943
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: so speed is still something he's having to adjust to.

944
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: And you know, all right, maybe this is a little

945
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: bit of a rant. That's That's something that aggravates me that,

946
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, people seem like they're incapable of seeing things

947
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: in shades of gray, like it's always got to be

948
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: black or white. Jalen Smith has to be an injured

949
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: guy who can't contribute, or an all pro like as

950
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: soon as he gets the green light to play, that

951
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: means he's ready to be that beast that we all

952
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: saw on tape at Notre Dame. That's not how this works.

953
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: And so you're great, he's got the green light to play.

954
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: He looked good in the preseason. Him and Sean Lee,

955
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all pros side by side. We got

956
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: the best linebacker corp in the NFL. That's not the

957
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: way this works. And it's a lengthy process to come

958
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: back from something like that, even when you are capable

959
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: of playing so and he's not all the way completely bad.

960
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: That's even at the beginning of the season. The person

961
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: they even said like, he still doesn't have complete feeling

962
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: in that exactly. And when he's trying to take an

963
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: angle on a running back hitting the corner, you can

964
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: see it. And again, I'm not trying to hate on

965
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: the guy. That's just the reality of the situation. I

966
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: still think he can be a damn good player. I

967
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: still think all of the you know, all of these

968
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: things considered, I think he's he's been pretty impressive just

969
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: in what he's been able to do from not playing

970
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: for a year and a half. And for people to

971
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: kill him for not being ready to play at a

972
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level right off the bat, that's bs and

973
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: stupid and you need to have a more nuanced view

974
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: of the way these things work well. I think that

975
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: you also got to remember that what the fans have

976
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: to go off of, that's he's a draft pick from

977
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: last year's class, where those two guys who were playing

978
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: around at the Pro Bowl last year, Zeke and Dak

979
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: first year to come in, you know, they're they're all World,

980
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: All Pro and they make it to the Pro Bowl.

981
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not saying it's fair, but I'm

982
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: saying that's what that's what the people were thinking. MALIEK. Collins,

983
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: third round pick, you know what, didn't even play in

984
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: the offseason, had a great season. Same with Anthony and

985
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, respecting that our show shouldn't but

986
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: they are our show and our other shows, and really

987
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: any reputable source of Cowboys information is way more likely

988
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: to give you this you know, wait and see, patient,

989
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: step by step approach, which maybe that's frustrating to hear,

990
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: but but that's the way this thing works. So you know,

991
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: to immediately heap those type of expectations on the guy

992
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: just because you know what he was at Notre Dame,

993
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: it's not fair to him. It's really it's not fair

994
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: to anybody in the situation. It goes back to the coaching, then,

995
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if he's not ready to play right now,

996
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: then he shouldn't have to play. He's clearly ready to play,

997
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: but not at that but not at that level right

998
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: at that at that at that amount or that level

999
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: to be I mean he playing, like you said, playing

1000
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: sixty seventy plays a game. He's not ready for that.

1001
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: So the fact that the Cowboys are feel like they're

1002
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: in a position based upon personnel that they have, based

1003
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: upon injuries, whatever, they feel like they have to put

1004
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: him out there, that says to me that that's a

1005
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: that's an issue of the front office and coaching, whether

1006
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: it is an issue Jay Smith, and you're playing the Rams,

1007
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: and maybe they underestimated the Rams, but they went into

1008
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: the game with four linebackers, which no one does that,

1009
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: and around the league they have four because they had

1010
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: two guys hurt. But they should have gotten some help

1011
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: in here. Because of those four, one of them should

1012
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: not be playing. Sixties seventy snaps. He's coming off an

1013
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: injury that many people thought he would never play again.

1014
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Another guy didn't even play all of the offseason. He retired.

1015
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Now he's not retired. That's justin Durant anytime you do.

1016
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: You're dealing with a guy like that. I means he's

1017
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: not gonna play a ton of snaps. Kyle wilbur has

1018
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: never been a guy that's played a lot. He's been

1019
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: more of a special teams guy. And then you've got

1020
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Damien Wilson who's still kind of you know, he's playing well,

1021
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: but he's kind of learning how to do that. Those

1022
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: are your four linebackers. And then he got gashed by

1023
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley in the passing game, in the running game,

1024
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: and you're surprised by it. I mean, get some help

1025
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: if these guys aren't ready. It's the same reminds me

1026
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: of the Bears right now, the Bears fans, Is this

1027
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: as good as Trubisky is gonna be? No, that he's

1028
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: a young guy. Okay, that was pretty good. You gotta

1029
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: be patient with him. But they even got some help

1030
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback to say we'll ease him into

1031
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: it a little bit. And you just can't. Like you said,

1032
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: I agree with you saying about the gray area. There's

1033
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: no gray area there. There should be with Jalen Smith.

1034
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, they don't have to throw him out there.

1035
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: There's guys out there. You can sign. I guess you

1036
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: can get the linebacker you could have made. You could

1037
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: have kept Nazaci on the team if you wanted to,

1038
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: you'd have to cut him. So I agree with everything

1039
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: you just said, but basically, and that's not going to

1040
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: be a cure all. But this defense needs Sean Lee

1041
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: and Anthony Hitchins to both be healthy and playing to

1042
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: resemble the and again they weren't world beaters last year,

1043
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: but to resemble that average average unit. Thank you. I

1044
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: couldn't think of the right word if if they want

1045
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: to be average too above average, they need those two

1046
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: guys there. And that's weird to say because I think

1047
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: in this day and age, with the way the NFL

1048
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: is linebackers the least important position on the defense. But

1049
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think back to the fourth and two

1050
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: fake handoff crack toss that the Packers converted. Sean Lee

1051
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: is there. I don't know if he gets the stop,

1052
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: but like it's got a chance instead of going for

1053
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: six yards the way it did. So those guys can

1054
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: help you clean up a lot of mistakes. When you

1055
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: look at all the all the things a defense does

1056
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: that they're not doing well. The one that I look

1057
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: at that, I think could have as big of an

1058
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: impact as anything else outside of points per game obviously,

1059
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: because that's winning and losing, right, But their turnover differential

1060
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: right now, they're negative three. They're twenty sixth in the NFL.

1061
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: And this is not a team. Sometimes turnover differentials about

1062
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: the offense giving the ball away too much. As we

1063
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: taught here earlier, they haven't had a bunch of turnovers

1064
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. It means that

1065
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: the defense is not pulling their their weight. They're not

1066
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: getting the ball back to the offense with short yardage

1067
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: by turnovers. This twenty fifteen or twenty thirteen. But that's

1068
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: my point, and so I want to ask you guys,

1069
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: like how important is that? And is this defense never

1070
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: going to be able to be good enough if they

1071
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: can't get to the point where they can get turnovers consistently. Yeah,

1072
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: because they're not going to really just go out and

1073
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: stop people. So yeah, you got to get the football

1074
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: out and it's not I think all of their turnovers

1075
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: are interceptions, right, I mean they had a Fumbel recovery

1076
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: in Denver. Oh, yes, yeah, Marcus, that's right. I was

1077
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: let's say I mean they're not getting the ball out.

1078
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's they're not though, I mean not especially

1079
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: when they practice it as much as they like. It

1080
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: seems like every play in training camp, it's like it

1081
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: seems they forced more funnels in practice in training camp

1082
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: than I've seen them do in games. It seems with

1083
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: the way the pass rush has gotten home so far

1084
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: this year, you'd think they'd be and and they did.

1085
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: They got the ball out against the Rams. They didn't

1086
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: recover it. They did it against Denver, but even still,

1087
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: you think they could do it more. And they haven't

1088
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: had a pick since Week two, which was just a

1089
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: nice catch by Jordan Lewis on a drastic overthrow. I'll

1090
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: take it. I'm at this point you will. But if

1091
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: you think back, you think back to Week one, Anthony

1092
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: Brown made a really nice read on a play and

1093
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: made a really nice interception, and I we even said,

1094
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: we were like, that's the type of pick this defense

1095
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten in years, because usually when the Dallas Cowboys

1096
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: get a pick, the quarterback threw it right to them.

1097
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: Like you don't see guys routes or diagnosed plays. And

1098
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: I actually think it even goes to and I'll talk

1099
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: to you about this yesterday, Nick. I think one of

1100
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: the biggest problems for this defense is a safety position.

1101
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: And think about how many times you watch other games

1102
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: teams around the league where you see safeties patrolling the

1103
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: back end that run over, they diagnose a play, they

1104
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: run over, they jump right in front of the receiver

1105
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: at the right moment and get the interception. Yeah. I

1106
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: can't even tell you the last time I've seen those

1107
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: kind of plays on this team. I can, and it's well,

1108
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: it's perfectly indicative of the Cowboys. I've talked about it

1109
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: over and over again. Jeff, he did it in Arizona.

1110
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: He dropped the ball and Orlando Scanderd got flagged, so

1111
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: it didn't even count and count right, let's talk about

1112
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: when it counting. That's just not sounded. That's not something

1113
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that this team has. And that goes back to last

1114
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: year too, like they had. I thought the safety position

1115
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: played really well, but that wasn't something you used to

1116
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: sing this team do. Is safeties just being able to

1117
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: patrol the field and get those kinds of picks when

1118
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: when their opportunities to diagnose a play, get in position

1119
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: and make the play. It's just not something they do,

1120
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and I think until they get a safety that really

1121
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: has that ability on the back end, it's gonna be

1122
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: hard for this defense to be able to get the

1123
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: turnovers that they need. Yeah, we thought Jeff Heath would

1124
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: be better through five games. We thought Byron Jones would

1125
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: be better. And now I'm starting to think Byron Jones

1126
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: is more of a of a corner I mean, because

1127
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I've for three years, I've been saying he's safety, he's safety,

1128
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: and they moved him to safety. I was like, yeah, safety.

1129
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: Now every time he gets pushed around by tight ends,

1130
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: I think, well, maybe he should just be a corner

1131
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: iron kind of something. Byron confounds me because through this

1132
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: point in the season last year, he had racked up

1133
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: four or five really badass plays like the play he

1134
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: made against the Bengals in Week five last year where

1135
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: he just kind of poked that, I mean, and he

1136
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: did that three or four times. Really nice plays. You

1137
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: haven't you haven't seen it this year, And I don't know.

1138
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know why I might come out Ah yeah,

1139
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: tongue tied just trying to talk about it. I'm at

1140
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: a loss for why it hasn't why he hasn't been

1141
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: able to take another step forward because I really thought

1142
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: he would and his play through. You know, people kind

1143
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: of roll their eyes at us for talking about training camp,

1144
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: like we watched this stuff every day and he looked

1145
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: he was doing stuff like that. He was diagnosing plays

1146
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: and picking off Dak in the end zone and coming

1147
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: across the field to help out with the corners. And

1148
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: you just haven't seen it translate to the games. It's tough.

1149
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't at this point. I don't really know. The

1150
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: other Sorry, one more thing I'll throw out is hey

1151
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: against you know a lot like MALIEK. Collins last year,

1152
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: you kind of wrote off MALIEK. Collins like, well, he

1153
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: broke his foot, he won't be able to do anything.

1154
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Way wrong about that. Jordan Lewis didn't practice all through

1155
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: training camp. You think that's going to set him back

1156
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: his rookie season, Not at all. I don't care that's

1157
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: when they got out there. I don't care that he

1158
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: gave up that touchdown. He's been phenomenal. I think the

1159
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: sky's the limit for that guy. Cheeto hasn't been able

1160
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: to get in on that conversation because he can't get

1161
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: his hamstring right and so that's potentially half of your secondary.

1162
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: If you think Cheetos good enough to claim a starting

1163
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: spot somewhere, that's two of your four dbs that could

1164
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: hopefully help you revamp this thing, and one of them

1165
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get on the field, and that's

1166
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: really disappointing. But to me, until the safeties, until you

1167
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: get better, more consistent play from the safeties, I don't

1168
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: know this thing can get better because that that's still

1169
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: going to be not only in the passing game, but

1170
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: in the running game. Every been just as many times

1171
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: we've seen those two guys either make bad take bad angles,

1172
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: or slip it fall miss a tackle. I mean, I'm

1173
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: reminded of the play where Byron kind of got the

1174
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: guy running at him and he kind of takes on

1175
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: the defender as opposed to heading toward the guy bit

1176
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: carrying the ball. I mean, it's it's those kind of

1177
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: moments where it's just like, until they get more consistent play,

1178
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: more consistently good play from their safety position, I think

1179
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: this is going to continue to be a problem with

1180
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: for the defense of them being able to get stops regularly.

1181
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 1: He's not an all pro, but I think Barry Church

1182
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: is so early missed around he is now. I've tried

1183
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: to be very optimistic throughout this whole time, but at

1184
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: this point I just don't have anything nice to say,

1185
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: which is why I kept my mouth shut right now,

1186
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: so I'll go off and lose it. But aside from

1187
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and the pass rush everyone else, I don't

1188
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: have anything nice to say. All right, We'll go back

1189
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: and correct, Thank you, apprecis you guys Jonas. We'll be

1190
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: back tomorrow morning. Nine thirty are normal time till then

1191
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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