1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is Monday, April 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, Miles Summons across the table from De Marco 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: far and we have a RAMS twenty nineteen draft class 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: to discuss d Thank god it's over. Yes, yes, I know, 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: you know what. You know. What's funny. I enjoy the 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: process of seeing the draft picks when they're here, you 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I the lead up to 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: the draft, and we talked about this in the last 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: episode two, right, Like the lead up to the draft 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: annoys me. The draft process in itself is so very interesting, 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: especially from the perspective that I'm fortunate enough to see 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: it from being in the draft room. But it is 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: a walk, it's long days, it's long nights, it's a 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: lot of war. And then you know, once you see, 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, in this particular case, you got eight guys 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: who are going to be on the RAMS and how 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: they can affect the Rams in the future. That's the 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: cool part. But going through it, I no doubt and 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: funny as in the side you had eight picks, right, 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: and two are from the same school. I just had 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to throw that out there. Oh yeah, school, what school? 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Your school? What school? Is that Washington University of Washington. 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: What did I always say about the University of Washington. 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: We are the mortar of football, we hold everything together. 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I see, Yes, absolutely no, But I'm with you. It's uh. 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: What is the the the the headphone company of the NFL? Bows? Bows? 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: I have to put the bows on the combines important. 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: I love to see the guy's work out, and you know, 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: I don't get to see the interviews. But I love 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: that process, but I hate the noise that comes with it, 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the endless speculation. Same with the draft. Like you said, 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I love the draft, can't wait. I can't wait for 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: the draft, can't wait for Pro days, But I can't 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: stand the noise. We talked about this last BTh when 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: someone had them penciled for eleven and five and the 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: schedule just came out right, and we haven't drafted yet. 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: That's the noise I'm talking about. So when I say 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: thank God it's over, I mean that. But now you 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: know where everybody's headed, and you know how they did 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: and how replenished you're going to be going into twenty nineteen. Yeah, 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: exactly so, And that's kind of what I like about 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: this class. I think that It's a good class because 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: it's tailored specifically to the RAMS. Right. You know, you're 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: now in a place where you have to start building 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: a program, and the RAMS now can do that because 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: they have anchor points. Right. We talk about this before. 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you know where you have him, You know 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: where you have Todd Gurley. You know Jared goff is 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily signed the contract extension yet, but you're settled 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: at that spot. So you can build around these key 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: pieces at different places now, and you can also build 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: for the future. Yeah, which is something that I think 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these picks also did. How about Jared 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: goff Man, Just don't trip and you're gonna make thirty 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. Yes, yeah, you're almost there. 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: All you have to do is what win eleven more games, 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: get this team to the postseason one more time, and 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: you're there. But yeah, I mean to have the pieces 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: in place so you can build around. Like you said, 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: this is what you call a program. Now. There was 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: some hit and misses, some great hits, some missues that 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: we won't talked about, but I think they've done a 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: pretty good job of building a consistent contender and then 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: getting reinforcements you needed to through the draft, right exactly. 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: And that's what Lessoned was saying. You know, I talked 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: to him just before the start of the day two proceedings, 67 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: if you will, on Friday, And so what he was 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: saying is that, you know, we have built this thing up, 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: we have reached a certain level of success. So now 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: it's all about sustaining him and how do we get 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: these players who can do that. That's what really this 72 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: draft is all about. So to me, it's not just 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: oh well they want like then this is a media 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: creation too, right, And fans sometimes think and I get 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: these treets, so like, oh well this player what I 76 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: mean groat on, didn't they just do this? Or why 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: do they trade it up? Yeah? This guy like like 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: when you talk about everything, right, yeah, and it's not true, right, 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Like the great thing about this process right now, because 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you have a coaching staff and a personnel staff that 81 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: is in lockstep, right, and like I can tell you 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: that it's true, like I witnessed it in through these 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: three days of the draft. They are in lockstep. They 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: discuss things, the hammer things out, and they trust the 85 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: process and they trust the board. You now know, like Okay, 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: you can not only get the value in the people 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: that are the end up being the picks, but you 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: can get value from where you pick these guys. And like, 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: that's why it's so interesting where you have less need 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: making what six draft trades? Yeah, you know five of 91 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: them and through day one and day two in order 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, you trade down, you get more assets than 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: you trade up because you have a player that you 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: want and you can find a trade partner. These these 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: things they're all interconnected, and it just it makes the 96 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: rams what they are. Yeah, there's more than one way 97 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: to skin a cat. I mean, I think that's people 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: can't get beyond the traditional way. As you have picks. 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, whatever picks you have, and that's where you pick, 100 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and that's it. But if you have the stones, the 101 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: wherewithal the knowledge, the information to where you can move 102 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: around and still get the guys you want or relatively 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: close to the guys you want, then so be it. 104 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: It's it's a new NFL. Sometimes these things fail when 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: you get too cute in the draft. Um dare I 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: say New York got cute or just got cold feet? 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: To me, that's not the guy they wanted at quarterbacks 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones. Yeah, I don't personally thinking. I think 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: they just got cold feet on Haskins. Okay, I do, 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: And they went with the other guy, and we'll see 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: if that works out. Who else? I think Houston got cute, 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Seattle got cute, Bozona certainly got cute. Well, we'll see 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: what happened with quarterbacks, right, getting Murray and then having 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: to trade Rosen for a very late second round pick. True, 115 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: And it's only cute if you fail, if your team 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: doesn't improve, right that's when they it's called cute. If 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: you improve or stay the same or get a little 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: bit better than it's called being savvy. So I think 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: right now less Need is built up some savvy credit 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. But I like his picks. You know, 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: no matter where you picked him, Taylor Rapp is going 122 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: to improve your football team period. He is. He's a 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: guy that you can plug and play right now. It's 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: going to be hard for the Rams not to find 125 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: a job for him on the field on defense immediately, 126 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: just like they did at dub and on special teams. 127 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: I bet he knows as much as Bones does already. 128 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: He's that guy. And it seems like since McVeagh got here, 129 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: there's more of an emphasis on these academic, all American types, 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: smart guys that can think, you know what I mean, 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about teaching them the playbook 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: or making mental mistakes. That's the one thing I heard 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: about him coming out of you Dub. He didn't have 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: a ton of mental mistakes anywhere in practice or in games. 135 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: That seems to be what McVeagh and less Need has 136 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: been about the last two and a half seasons. Yeah, 137 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I agree with that. And what 138 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: was interesting talking to both scouts And then if you're 139 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: ever a safety's coach about Taylor Rapp, who was picked 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: at sixty one overall, the twenty ninth choice of the 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: second round, which the RAM did trade for this pick, 142 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I think is so good for what the NFL is becoming. Yeah, 143 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: you know this. You talk about a certain scheme fit. 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: He fits because he's a versatile safety, right. He can 145 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: play in the box, he can play in the defensive backfield. 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: You think of him in some ways as a kind 147 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: of natural successor to Eric Weddle. But I think you're 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: right in that they're probably going to make packages that 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: get Taylor rap on the field because he is that 150 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of you know, game day ready performer at this point, now, 151 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: no doubt, more guys you can throw at Kittle. When 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: you're playing in San Francisco. You've got Baltimore coming up 153 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. You know they're going to be tight 154 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: end heavy. So another guy you can attach to one 155 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: of these hybrid tight ends and say you got him 156 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: that day, Maybe you've you've found the guy that can 157 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: cover all and he becomes a star immediately. But you 158 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: have another option on the field, so like you said, 159 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: perfect and you can plug him in on special teams 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: and you don't miss a beat there, you know. And 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the four seven forty So what four seven's fast enough? 162 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I think Jerry Rice was a four seven coming out 163 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: of the draft. That was an interesting aspect of this too, 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and part it might be part of why the Rams 165 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: were able to get him all the way at sixty 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: one overall is because he didn't necessarily test as well 167 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: as you might have liked. But I mean you think 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: about it and think lesson he brought this up too. 169 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: There are other guys who might not have tested as 170 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: well that are on this RAMS roster right now. Cooper Cup. 171 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: You know he had a what people call as a 172 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: quote unquote slow forty time, right, John Johnson another one 173 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: that you know people might think, oh, well right, yeah, exactly. 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: But what are those two guys now? You know those 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: two guys are potential All pros in twenty nineteen. They 176 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: are two guys who probably should have made the Pro 177 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty eighteen. Cup didn't make him because of injury. Obviously, 178 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: but then John Johnson, I think we can both agree 179 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl snub. Absolutely right. So that's the 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of guy I's an alternate. Yes, that's the kind 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: of guy I think you're getting in a Taylor wrap, 182 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: somebody who can grow into one of those kinds, no doubt. 183 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Two guys I played with not to go all the 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: way back, Marshall Falk and Isaac Bruce. Marshall is fast, right, 185 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: but if you test him in the forty it may 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: not show how fast he actually is. We'll put somebody 187 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: behind him. Then you'll see Isaac Bruce the same way. 188 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: He may not test out. Put somebody in pursuit. Burner. 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I think the same thing with Taylor Rap. I mean 190 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where you saw him 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: running like, Wow, he looks faster on film. So I'll 192 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: just reject what I saw here and go with the film. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: You know somebody who plays with his hair on fire. Yeah, 194 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that's what That's what the Areas scout Pieter Ganella told 195 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: me about him, that about Taylor Rap, that this is 196 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: a guy plays with his hair on fire. The NFL 197 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,479 Speaker 1: locker room is rough, man, It's it's the most judgmental 198 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: place in the world. I'm not kidding. Think about what 199 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Seattle went through with Russell Wilson, right, yeah, it could 200 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: be split down the middle. Well, this kid's got a 201 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: struggle you don't know about. Really, you have no idea 202 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: about this. Challenge him if you want a Chinese American 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: who loves football, who are his role models? Right? Okay, 204 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: he's in this because he really really really really loves 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: it and he's really really really really good. Yeah you 206 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yes, So I love that that fire, 207 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: that passion to be good and to go beyond your 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: capabilities is built in. I mean, it's it's it's a 209 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: story that we talk about through the draft every single day. 210 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Just others are commonplace. This is the same story, just 211 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Well, what is interesting is that 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: guy's brought that up too. I mean, this is a 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: guy who's a serious kid, strong willed kid, but also 214 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: because of that, because of his background. You're right, you 215 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: don't have the examples of people who look like you 216 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: doing what it is that you do. And I mean, 217 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: this is something that is being talked about in America 218 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: at large, no doubt, more and more and more. Right, 219 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and think about film and representation in film and why 220 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Black Panther was so important, why I Wonder Woman was 221 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: so important. This is somebody in Taylor Rapp, who Mina 222 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: Kimes and Pablo Torre talked about. Yeah, like you see 223 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw like the yeah that 224 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: they did for the high Noon video. I'm right there 225 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: with you. Go ahead. Yeah, It's just it's really interesting 226 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: because right when you see as Asian American who is 227 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: playing and playing at such a eye level in college, 228 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: that means something. And so I root for guys like that, 229 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be nice to kind of talk to 230 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: him about it once he gets here. And you know 231 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: see what that means, Dan, because I'm sure it means oh, 232 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: no doubt, man, just look become a pro bowler, and 233 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: your jersey is gonna sell through the roof. Think about that. So, 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's he's a top flight player. He's 235 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a great player, and he's also one of those captain 236 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: types that you like to have on your football team. 237 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: As many guys as you can get like this, the better, 238 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Ye, So if you're I 239 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: just can't stand people that are pointing to the one 240 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: thing that he didn't do well the forty time? Yeah, 241 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: did you see everything else? Did you talk to everyone 242 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: about everything else? He is? He's a great football player, 243 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: you know. And when you watch him with pads on 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: when it matters, you don't notice a four to seven 245 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: at all. You notice the guy that's playing faster than 246 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: the other twenty one on the field right exactly now. 247 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: And that to me, I what I really like just 248 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: about him in putting him in this position is that 249 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: he'll be able to learn from a guy like Eric 250 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Weddle and like, there's a lot to learn from all 251 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: of that experience. And so it's almost the Andrew Witworth 252 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: effect that you figure has happened for guys like Joe 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: nop Boom, Brian Allen. You know you're around that, you're 254 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: a sponge. You soak it in. There's so much more 255 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: that you can learn from somebody who's been in it 256 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: for so long. Yeah, and that to me is really 257 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: good and a misconception that the rookie learns from the veteran. 258 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: That does happen, But the veteran also learns from rookie 259 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: really like how not to take plays off, how not 260 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: to get rest, how to bring it everything, how to 261 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: have that passion. I mean, the longer you go in 262 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: in this game, you forget what you were like as 263 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: a rookie, and then once you see yourself come through 264 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: the door, let's either match that, exceed that, or it's 265 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: time to retire, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, 266 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's gonna help Wettal as much as 267 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Wettal's gonna help him. Yeah. Yeah. So he's listened at 268 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: six feet even two hundred and eight pounds, So I mean, 269 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: some might say he's a little bit undersized, but I don't. 270 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't see that when I watch his highlights. You know, 271 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't see that on film, And I 272 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: think that's exactly what you kind of have to do. Right, 273 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: you have to trust what you see when these guys 274 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: are playing football. When he does that, his versatility allows 275 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: him to be a guy who can sack the quarterback 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: on one play, but then be in coverage and knock 277 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: a ball down or get an interception on the next. 278 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I like it. He's a threat when he's on the field, 279 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: And like I said, I bet they find a role 280 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: from him for him on defense almost immediately. Yes, yeah, 281 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: he'll play. He'll be out there, you know, dime packages 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: or something that I think of, you know immediately because 283 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: you saw last year the Rams use Marquis Christian in 284 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: that kind of role as sort of that extra dime 285 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: linebacker in those situations. I think that's someplace where you 286 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: might see Taylor app. I'm glad you brought him up. 287 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Don't forget about Marquis Christian. I mean, draft picks like 288 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: this at your position, it does change your present, but 289 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: it also it definitely alters your future because the future 290 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: is here. But you can still compete and win against 291 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: a draft pick. Yeah, just because he's here doesn't mean 292 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: you have to like give up your job. There's going 293 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: to be competition, but at safety, that's kind of what 294 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: I want right, Yeah, yes, it's it's different for and 295 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily planning to have this conversation. But quarterbacks, 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: right when you get a guy like Kyler Murray, and 297 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Steve Smith comments right now, we 298 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: can go into this a little bit because Josh Rosen 299 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: is now in Miami and he had his press comment 300 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: there this morning that Steve Smith rant did not age Well, well, no, 301 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: but it didn't. It didn't make sense much sense in 302 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: the first place. Well, it makes sense if you understand 303 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: Steve Smith. I mean, I, yeah, you know how Steve is. 304 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: I know, and I enjoy watching Steve I do. Yeah, 305 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the things he says 306 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: a verse. I didn't think that what he said about 307 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was accurate or smart. I just didn't because 308 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: when you I thought it was a little reactionary, it 309 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: was extra Well, if it was that when you draft 310 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback number one overall, you don't compete with that guy, Well, 311 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: was anybody telling case Keen him to compete with Jared Goff? No, 312 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: you're a placeholder at best when somebody gets chosen number 313 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: one overall, until number one overall gets to pick when 314 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: he's ready, he's in no matter how you're doing. Right. Yeah, 315 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: that's what that means. That's how that goes exactly. A quarterback. 316 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: It's not like a defensive deck where you can have 317 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: two on the field at the same time. It's not 318 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You're gonna have two on the field at 319 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: the same time. Even at running back, well you can 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: have two unless you're the Saints, then you do have 321 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks on the field at the same time. Yeah. 322 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm still shocked that they sold that to Drew Brees. Wow, 323 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: they somehow did. Yeah, you're gonna line up at receiver 324 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: and he's gonna take the snap. Okay, you're a Hall 325 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback, but lineup at receiver. Yeah, it worked. 326 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: It worked when that's trust. Yes, yeah, exactly, when you've 327 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: been with somebody for ten years, I guess that's the 328 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of relationship you have. I'm gonna leave that right there. 329 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: But the point is, I mean, even in running back, 330 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: you can at least have two players on the field 331 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: at the same time, which leads us into our next pick, 332 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: which was seventieth overall Darrell Henderson out of Memphis burn 333 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: or big play guy, loose play specialist. You know, it's 334 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: what the NFL had become. And I don't want to 335 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: say the guy's name in Kansas City, the guy that 336 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: lit it up. We always talk about Mahomes, but who 337 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: was on the other end of some of those wild plays. 338 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: That guy. So that ability going into the postseason. You know, 339 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick doesn't say much, but the only guy he 340 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: talked about when he was getting ready to play Kansas 341 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: City was that guy because of how special he is. 342 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: So same sort of situation. You always want to add 343 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: these guys. And let me just add this, even if 344 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: December through February had worked out differently for number thirty here, 345 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I still think you make this pick. I do too. Yeah, yes, 346 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: because this is something that the Rams did want to 347 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: address at this kind of position, this change of pace 348 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: back position. They wanted to address it last year, but 349 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: they weren't able to because there were some guys that 350 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: came off the board before they were able to pick them. 351 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Said less Sneed said this the other day. So this 352 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: is something that I agree with you, DeMarco. Regardless of 353 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: whatever Todd Gurley's status is, and as of right now 354 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: he is still the starting running back, is still somebody 355 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: that they're planning on utilizing as much as they can. Yeah, 356 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: you still want this guy to get on the field 357 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: because he allows you to do some different things, allows 358 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: you to play in some different personnel grouping some different packages. 359 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: And what I thought was really interesting was that Sean 360 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: mcvas said on draft night that when you pick this guy, 361 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: it's not that you're trying to say there's something wrong 362 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: with what you've been doing in terms of being an 363 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: eleven personnel and whatnot. But you don't necessarily want to 364 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: ask your Robert Woods of the world Old you know, 365 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Cooper Cup Josh Reynolds. You don't want to 366 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: ask them to be on the field one hundred percent 367 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: of the time. Right, Basically what you were doing by 368 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: being an eleven personnel so much so now maybe you 369 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: utilize more tight ends, you know some twelve They didn't 370 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: mix that in a little bit toward the end of 371 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: the season. But also you could use two running backs 372 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: on at the same time and add that kind of 373 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: different dimension to your offense because Henderson is somebody you 374 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: can split out. Because they were really touting his hands too, 375 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: and said that he has good hands and can catch, 376 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: just different ways to move the ball down the field. 377 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Like you said, it gives a defense something else to 378 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: worry about. I mean when he gets the ball in 379 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: his hands. While in college he was explosive almost nine 380 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: yards per carry, not touch? Is it carry? Right? Oh? Yes? Yeah, 381 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: cars so ridiculous it is. I was talking to Area 382 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Scott Billy Johnson about this and he was one of 383 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: the ones who initially scotted Henderson and he said that 384 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: to me. And you know I've been a register, right 385 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Well I looked at him, like you and you know 386 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the meme with the guy who like blinks like yeah 387 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: times in three seconds, right, Like that was me because 388 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: when I hear eight point nine, he said he was 389 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: averaging nearly nine yards at carry. I know, I'm like, what, 390 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: that's Reggie bush Land from way back in the end, 391 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: when Reggie bush was averaging over ten yards per touch. 392 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: That's a first down to touch, that's officially unstoppable. Well, 393 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: this guy's nine, you know what I mean? Yes, I 394 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: think you can pick up the other yard. I hope, yeah, 395 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you would like to think so, yeah, stay on the 396 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: field more right, nine yards per carry over his last 397 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: two seasons at Memphis, and he was getting a lot 398 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: of touches too. It's not like this was just one 399 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: off and then no that story and you made fun 400 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: of me on the phone. We were at some hotel, 401 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: at some hotel bar, getting ready to go out. This 402 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: is what we do. We talk about the game, we 403 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: get off the plane, we put our bags down. Yeah, 404 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: we go to the bar, we talk about the game 405 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. And where we're going. Yes, And it 406 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: had to be Tennessee because you had the ESPN games on, 407 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: but local TV was all this kid, and I remember 408 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: it because it was right over your head. You were 409 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: looking at me, and I was looking at the TV 410 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: and it was all breakaways, and I kept saying, is 411 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: this one game? You know? Wow? Is this one freaking game? 412 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: This kid is good? And I was looking down at 413 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: my phone because I can't remember the guy's name that 414 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: was up in Seattle. I want to say. His name 415 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: is like McKittrick, and it's the last couple of years 416 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: he was McKinnon. McKinnon when Pete Carroll used to bring 417 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: him in in those certain situations, same formation, same everything, 418 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: but the play was just a little bit different because 419 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: of his ability. Yeah, that's what I see with Henderson. Yeah, yeah, 420 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's the same offense you see, same everything 421 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: eleven personnel, except with this guy, it's going to be 422 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: a little bit different and you have to play it 423 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: a little bit different or he's going to run by, 424 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean that sort of ability. Yes, 425 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: and so it brings that different dimension to the running 426 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: backs room. And the name they brought up a couple 427 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: of times a couple of different guys did actually was 428 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Lance Dunbar. This was kind of the role that Lance 429 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Dunbar that they envisioned for a Lance Dunbar back in 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and that needed really work out, and that's 431 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: why that whole situation didn't work. He's the broken Christmas present. 432 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: When you were a kid, you had the toy that 433 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't wait to open, and you open it and 434 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: you broke it the first day and then it just 435 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: sat there in the corner, you know what I mean. 436 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: In this case, I feel like it kind of came 437 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: from the manufacturer like broken. Yeah, like it just didn't 438 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: work and then yeah, you just never really had time 439 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: to take it back and like the arm broke and 440 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: it never worked, and this like it's all it's got 441 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: glue and tape and you tried and it just doesn't work. Yes, yeah, dang, yes, yeah. 442 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: So now the Rams do have that position and they 443 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: can fill it. Yeah. I think that's going to be 444 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: interesting to see. Uh, you know, for the end of 445 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: the running back room, guys like John Kelly, Justin Davis. 446 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: I think, Malcolm's fine. Malcolm's Malcolm, you know what I mean. 447 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: And Todd's Todd. But I mean for the guys that 448 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: were fighting for reps last season that didn't get the 449 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: look the reason that C. J. Anderson showed up here, 450 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: those guys, it gets interesting for those two guys at 451 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: the end of the running back room, so to speak. 452 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: No doubt, yeah, no, no doubt about it. Next pick 453 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: was the seventy ninth overall, again in the third round, 454 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: cornerback David Long out of Michigan. I like Michigan defensive players. 455 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: I do. For some reason, those guys come out of 456 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: Michigan pro ready, especially at that spot, steady, if not spectacular, 457 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yes, they come out with 458 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: guys that they may give up catches, but no yak, 459 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: you know, um, they give up a lot of catches, 460 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: but no touchdowns. Sure, they're always third or fourth on 461 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: their team in tackles. So they do the skill position 462 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: stuff and they do the tough guy stuff as well. 463 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, he embodies that to me. Yeah, you know 464 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: what was interesting? So this came from Pro Football Focus 465 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: and they said on Long's five huninety five coverage snaps, 466 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: he allowed just eighteen receptions on sixty targets for one 467 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards. Of the eighteen receptions, only three 468 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: resulted in first downs and just one resulted in a touchdown. Smart, intelligent. 469 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, um, well, I wish I could 470 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: really tell you what they used to say about kids 471 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: that go to Michigan and UCLA, but we would get 472 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: in trouble. But it's the truth there. It seems like 473 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: they target certain guys for those positions and they look 474 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: for certain things because of the responsibility, you know what 475 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you can't really be a maverick 476 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: or a gambler and play corner there right. Yeah. You 477 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: have to play it the right way every single time, 478 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: and that's tough to do well. You have to be disciplined. 479 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: It's interesting. I mean, you're saying this about you know, 480 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: you guys who can come to UCLA, Michigan. Those are programs, right, 481 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: and again it's it's different for colleges because a, I mean, 482 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: you're replenishing things every four years, and you have to 483 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: because there's a certain shelf life with college football players 484 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: that's just inherent. But when you talk about successful programs, 485 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: what are they able to do. They're able to continue 486 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: to get guys in who fit what they need. They're 487 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: able to recruit guys who fit their systems very well. 488 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: That's what you try to build in the NFL. Right, 489 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: That's what the Pittsburgh's have done, Baltimore has been able 490 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: to do, you know, since they've been there. In New 491 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: England obviously does it extremely well. Green Bay traditionally has 492 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: done it, especially with Iron. That's what you have to 493 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: do in order to sustain success in the NFL. So 494 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: when you're talking about somebody like that, who's disciplined, who 495 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, who knows how to cover guys, 496 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: you bring him in now and you say, all right, well, 497 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 1: we're at a situation where we've got two cornerbacks who 498 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: are going to have expiring contracts at the end of 499 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. Well, how do you build a program. 500 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: You replenish that by having somebody in there a year 501 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: early that can learn from these guys and then boom, 502 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: at that point you can make him be a starter. Yes, 503 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the same thing you do with the offensive line. Last, 504 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: no doubt. You can never have enough good corners if 505 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: you ask, Oh yeah, you can always starting pitching. Yeah, 506 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. If you have two Pro bowlers, you 507 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: can never have enough because you know you'll lose one, 508 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: you'll lose two. And I think it happened to the 509 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: Rams a few times season you lost both corners at 510 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: the same time. So you can never have enough. Even 511 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: if this guy winds up starting three games a year, 512 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: those three games could be the most important. Yeah. So um, definitely, 513 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: um funny just off the recruiting trail, and this is 514 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: I hope this is as gentle as I can put this. 515 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: This guy would tell me when I'm recruiting this kid, 516 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: I would have to practice my handshake. Huh yeah, other 517 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: places I didn't need to. If that makes any sense. 518 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if that makes any sense, just let that 519 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: sink in for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's 520 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. So yeah, um, I love the way 521 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: he plays and like you said, it's it's good ammunition, 522 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: good to have insurance behind what you already have. Absolutely, 523 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: um and the other aspect of this. I mean, it 524 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: was interesting talking to Aubrey Pleasant about him just after 525 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: the pit came through, because Aubrey yes, all smiles, yeah, yes, 526 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: more claim. You mentioned that on the video. But it's 527 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: it's funny to be talking to these position coaches because 528 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: they see certain things out of these guys. And what 529 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Aubrey was saying was that it's great to be able 530 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: to get him basically a year early, right so that 531 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: you don't need to throw him into the fire. You 532 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: can really refine his skills that are already outstanding. I mean, 533 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: based on you know what we've just looked at from 534 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. You can refine those skills and then 535 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: you can set him up for even to be even 536 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: more successful in the future. Absolutely, I would give him 537 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: as much Young Clay as possible to mold m I 538 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: still think the best is out there for Aubrey Pleasant. 539 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: I really totally. Yeah, he gets the right set of guys. 540 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: You're talking about maybe arguably the most disciplined corners on 541 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: the field. If he gets the right group, if you 542 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's a guy, 543 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: that's all, that's always always there, yep. And he's always 544 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: doing a good job of that. And the last day 545 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: two pick, we will go over number ninety seven. Overall, 546 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Bobby Evans from Oklahoma was left tackle there projects as 547 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: as I who will play all around at the next 548 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: level at least for now, because he's that backup and 549 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Kromer doesn't do anything if he's not cross training 550 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: these guys, no doubt, no doubt. The great Denny Green, 551 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: God rest his soul. When I was coaching, he said, look, 552 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm always taking kids from big schools, and I'm taking 553 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: my lineman from Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, I mean just a big, 554 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: big school. So I mean when you put OU next 555 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: to OT, I'm in yeah, if you know what I'm saying. So, 556 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: and when you do your research on Bobby Evans, the 557 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: first thing or the thing that jumps off is nasty 558 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: personality perfect perfect, perfect perfect. That's great even if you 559 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: don't know what to do, Just go out there and 560 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: be nasty, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, until 561 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: you learn what to do, right. Yeah. Well, what they 562 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: liked about him, according talking to scouts and then Aaron 563 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Kromer about this. They like the way he was able 564 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: to move in just as an offensive lineman, right, you know, 565 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: you have this fluid movement thing, and the Rams do 566 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: so much zone blocking. It's a big part of what 567 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: they're doing. So he was able to get up to 568 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: the second level make those blocks very well. That stood 569 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: out to them on tape and that's part of why 570 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to bring him in here. Right, you can 571 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: hear it audibly. I guess when you do make checks 572 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: or the play changes and you see all five guys 573 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 1: step in the same direction, you don't make mistakes. Well, 574 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: that's the same thing you need here. When Jared Goff 575 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: does change the play, which he frequently does, or doesn't 576 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: call it until late in the in the in the 577 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: play clock, you're going to have to retain information and 578 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: move quickly, you know, and not make a mistake because 579 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: the timing is everything with these plays. Yeah, it is 580 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: what's interesting to me, And I want to talk to 581 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: him about this. Applying for consecutive Heisman Trophy winners in 582 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and then can I make a suggestion? Yeah, 583 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: do you want on the record and one off? Oh yeah, 584 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, and then promise you'll never tell what 585 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: you heard off the record. Yes, yeah, oh yeah, yeah 586 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but it's it. I bet Heisman trophy. Canna dispoint? 587 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: They're weird, are they all? They're different? Dudes? This is 588 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: college and you're different, you know what I'm saying. Yes, yeah, yeah, 589 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: you're the guy like it's all about us in college. 590 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, they always preach us no one's different, And 591 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: then you have one guy that's on every poster and 592 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you're like, but just from a on the field standpoint, right, 593 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: like you're when you're talking about Baker Mayfield. Now, he 594 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: does move around a little bit, but he is a 595 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: pocket passer. Yeah, and Kyler Murray has the ability to 596 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: do that as well. I mean he finds passing lanes 597 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: and he throws it down the field. But Kyler Murray 598 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: is also a threat to run at any time, and 599 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: he's the fastest guy on the field right, So blocking 600 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: for him must have been interested. I've heard the way 601 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: they're taught with guys like him is you don't worry 602 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: about him, You block the assignment. Yeah, he's gonna pick 603 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: his lane, yeah, and he's gonna make himself right if 604 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: you're worried about making him right, you're gonna mess up 605 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: the play, you know what I'm saying. Right, it's the 606 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: same with Lamar, same with Cam, same back in the day. 607 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Just do what you do and let the quarterback do 608 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: what he does. But you know, it proves that he 609 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: could play with whoever you got back there, type of offense, 610 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: whatever scheme you're running, and he's still going to be affected. Right, Yes, So, 611 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: as I said, he's gonna come in. He'll play left tackle, 612 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: left guard, right guard, right tackle, and they'll cross train 613 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: him at every spot. And yeah, it's good, you know. 614 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Kromer says it's the best way. He feels like 615 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: it's the best way to come in and learn how 616 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. It's the only way, man, 617 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: it is. It's learning to play all the spot. It's 618 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: the only I love it or I hate it. I 619 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: say I love it being funny, I hate it when 620 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: you get to the NFL and you stop learning. Oh yeah, 621 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: this this isn't the end all be all. This is 622 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: just where you get paid. You should still work on 623 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: your craft. I'm being being serious. Work on your craft. 624 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: It always it makes me so mad. Miles I swear, 625 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: if these guys weren't so big and so strong, I 626 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: would like slap them. You can't play out of a 627 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: left handed stance at twenty two, Well, what have you 628 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: been doing your whole life? Okay, fair, you can't catch 629 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: a screen out of the backfield at this stage. Give 630 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: me a break. You're just a burner. Huh, that's all 631 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: you have to do. Sometimes that's what people are. But 632 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: as I think about, you know, and we play glory days, 633 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: as I was when I was in high school, like 634 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: I was the one offensive lineman who could really I 635 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: could play anywhere, Like I could play center, I could 636 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: play right tackle, I could play right guard, and I 637 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: was usually the starting left guard. But a lot of 638 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: people couldn't do that. And it like it's one of 639 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: those things where I was like, I mean, I can 640 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I understand because you have to understand what the difference 641 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: is between right and left. Yeah, right, you know, I 642 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: was one of those guys like I could figure out 643 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: what everybody was. You have to flip the play in 644 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: your head. Yes, some people cannot. Well for some people 645 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: it is unless you're right, No, you can't. It's just 646 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: like I give Shack all the credit in the world. 647 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: He's the most dominant player I've seen on the field physically, right. Yeah, 648 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: but it still bothers me that you can't shoot free throws. Yeah, 649 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: you're in the NBA, man, you have you don't have 650 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: to go to class, stay in the gym, you know 651 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? Until you figure this out, you know. Wow. 652 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, you should be well rounded. But 653 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: like Aaron Kromer funny talking to him, sitting with a 654 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: guy and asking him, what do you do best? What 655 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: side do you like? Right? Whatever? You say, well, guess 656 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: where you're going to practice right, the exact opposite. Yeah, Yeah, 657 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna work on this over here first, because as 658 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: the Rams do it, they are only seven offensive linemen 659 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: up on game day. If you have to be able 660 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: to play wherever we ask you to play, yeah, because 661 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: that you might need to. Yeah, and that that rep 662 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: you get maybe in the NFC Championship game in New 663 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Orleans when you can't hear and you've got to play 664 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: right guard for the first time in your life and 665 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: be good for three and a half quarters. You know 666 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: who knows right exactly exactly. So that's why they do that. 667 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: And so far, I mean they've had a lot of 668 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: success with it. You can see a lot of things 669 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: a better are in chromer. But I'll tell you what. 670 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: He gets that offensive line in gear. And he's been 671 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league at that coaching position. 672 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah for a while and rarely raises his voice. Yeah 673 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: funny right, Yeah. I just in the Super Bowl, like 674 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: I said, I mean, I don't want to say things 675 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: were going back, but you know, things weren't going great 676 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: for the Rams, and I remember him standing out over 677 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: his guys coaching but smiling, We're gonna get this right. 678 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna get this right. It's just wow, wow, wow, wow. 679 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: I think I told you that story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 680 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: good story. All right. Next one another husky Greg Gaines 681 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: out of Washington. Oh let me, uh well see if 682 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: I can remember I have notes big, strong, nasty, motor, 683 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: perfect henchman to Aaron Donald. Yeah, like this is the 684 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: like when you see those movies where the Mafia boss 685 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: walks in and he's got the guy to his left, 686 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: his bodyguard. Well that's him. Like, sir, what do you 687 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: want me to do? I want you to grab the 688 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: center by his neck and not let him go. Consider 689 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: it done. Sir. Yeah, right, it's perfect, perfect, perfect, and 690 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: he's got some wiggle. He is a perfect run thug. 691 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: But when it is a passing down, he's got some wiggle. 692 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: He's got some pass for rush to him. So I 693 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: love this pick. Yes, you know it was funny seeing 694 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: after the pick. You know, you post the highlights on 695 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: social media. John Johnson like quote retweeted it and was like, oh, 696 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: this dude doesn't wear sleeves, are gloves. Oh I like 697 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, Like it's just a nasty guy in 698 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: the middle. Somebody who's the fireplug, takes up the blocks, 699 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: takes up the double teams, and that allows your guys 700 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: on the edges and Aaron Donald to get the more 701 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: of those one on one. You've seen his headshot, right, Yeah, 702 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: he looks like he can take a few. He looks 703 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: like he could have been in the battle last night 704 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: on Game of Thrones. Absolutely, Yes, he's that guy, that 705 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: the one, the guy that walks out last. He is 706 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 1: that guy. But I mean, I do like the pick 707 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: because he got better every single year at dub and 708 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: that's the stuff that you have to track. He was 709 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: as physically dominant from play number one, but his last 710 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: snap at you dub. You could tell this guy had 711 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: really really taken to work, taken the reps and gotten 712 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: better every single rep. So that's not going to end 713 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: just because he got here, Right, So in two or 714 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: three years, what's he going to be? Right, He's going 715 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: to be stronger, he's gonna be faster, he's going to 716 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: be more knowledgeable. So I think this is a great pick. Look, 717 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: no tackle is an important position in this defense, right, 718 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you still need somebody to be in there 719 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: and to help improve this run defense. That's a big 720 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: part of what this pick was about, because I mean, 721 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: we know that the rams that let up over five 722 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: yards a carry last year during the regular season. Now 723 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: did that get better during the postseason? Yes, but that 724 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: was a big concern. I think you can rightfully say 725 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: of this team heading into next year, can we improve 726 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: the run defense? What are we going to do to 727 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: do that? You draft a guy like Greg Gaines, who 728 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: is really good at just creating stalemates on the line 729 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: of scrimmage to make sure that those linebackers are able 730 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: to do what they need to do and get and 731 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: get their jobs done. Another defensive lineman and guys on 732 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: the edge are also able to do those things. There's 733 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: a PAC twelve award called the Morris Trophy, right, and 734 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: I love this trophy and I want it. In ninety 735 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: three and that was the last d lineman to win 736 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: it until Vitavea and then then the next season Gains 737 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: wins it. Right. But why I like it more than 738 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: every other award, Not just because I want it. It's 739 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: voted on by the players you just played. That's why 740 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: I like it. Yes, So the guys you just won again, 741 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: So the guys that are saying this is the guy 742 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: that kicked my ass the most. Yeah, yeah, this guy 743 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: here is a monster. When couldn't we couldn't block him, 744 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: and that's exactly how he played. And going back to 745 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Rap, I love guys that stand up in the 746 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: moments that mattered for the schools. So when he's playing 747 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Wazoo Washington State, both of these guys, they stood out 748 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: more because it meant more to the school. Every game 749 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: means a lot, and they play hard, but they go 750 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: to another level when it's rivalry week. Yes, and that's 751 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: what the NFL is about. If you ask me, I 752 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree with you for sure. It 753 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: was kind of funny seeing the call and who posted 754 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: this on social and on the rams dot com, you know, 755 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: as Greg Gaines gets the call, like we drafted you, 756 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Wade Phillips gets on the phone, 757 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: He's like, hey man, yeah, we got a spot for you. 758 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: Dom consueing here no more so, we got a spot 759 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: for you. He goes big shoes to fill. But yeah, 760 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: well I'm ready to do it. I'll do it. I 761 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: would say, well, this goes all the way back to 762 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: Dan sally Amua. Does that ring a bell for you? 763 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Played for the Kansas City Chiefs. They called him the 764 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: dancing Buffalo. Okay, yeah, about the same dimensions, same thing. 765 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean, this is back when those tackles kind of 766 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 1: were the most important guys on the field at one point. 767 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I guess a more contemporary would be Kyle Williams up 768 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, compact, explosive and just refuses to move. He 769 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: is the the stump that's in the middle of the 770 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: road that you just can't pull out. Yes, yeah with 771 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: four gets so be that guy. Absolutely, That's exactly where 772 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: they got him. That's what he's here for. So I'm 773 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him in that role because I 774 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: think that he can make an impact early. Oh no, no, 775 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: no doubt. And you know what, I can't wait to 776 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: see you and I are going to be standing on 777 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: the sidelines in training camp. Thank god, thank god we're 778 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: not practicing in that heat. But you know who was 779 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna love him? Who's gonna love Greg Gaines? Is Brian Allen? 780 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's gonna be fun. Yes, let's just 781 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: stand back and watch with popcorn. Absolutely, oh yeah, infinity glove, Yes, yes, 782 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Next guy, David Edwards. He was 783 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle out of Wisconsin. Nice choice at the 784 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine overall good player. I mean, 785 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: look Wisconsin, Yeah, yeah, this is what they do. Yep, yeah, 786 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: I trust them. Breed right tackles, We already see one 787 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: on the Rams roster and Rob havenstuff. Yeah. If they 788 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: If the Badgers produce an offensive lineman, that stinks. Point 789 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: them out to me because I haven't seen that many. 790 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: Idn't really either, right, you know, based on what their 791 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: program is and what they do, they produce offensive lineman 792 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: really really well, you think about Wisconsin guys, Iowa guys, 793 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: those big ten schools that are you know in that 794 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: Midwest region and they just turn on offensive linemen. Had 795 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: a defensive line coach that tells me, like in Wisconsin, 796 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: the sled, you know the shoot that you have to 797 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: come out. Every offensive lineman has to come out of 798 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: a shoot, so you stay low. Oh yes, yeah, before 799 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: you hit the sled. Yes, they set the shoot a 800 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: couple inches lower than everyone else. Really, yeah, that's how 801 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: they're trained. They're just natural benders. They forced you to bend. 802 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: That's why they're so good. Right, Well, so this is 803 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: and David Edwards was a guy who played well in 804 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: his couple of years, but his last real good season 805 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and kind of played through 806 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: his shoulder injury. And so that's something where you know, 807 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: you talk to the scouts and I think Less Sneed 808 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: said this as well. And you look at what he 809 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: did in twenty seventeen and you see that production and 810 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: he's gotten the shoulder repaired, and you can kind of 811 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: project out what he can be in the NFL. And 812 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: that's why he's a pretty good value pick late in 813 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: the fifth round at thirty one, at the thirty first choice. 814 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: They fit. Yeah, I mean I love it when you 815 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: think guys aren't very good and then they wind up 816 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: locking you up and you don't know how, you know 817 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, and you don't know how, Like 818 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: where did this come from? I thought you were a 819 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: sixth rounder? Well, actually I was playing hurt. Yeah, now 820 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm not hurt, right exactly, and you see what happens. 821 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: He's also a converted quarterback, yeah, which I thought it's interesting. 822 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: He's like six foot seven, so we played quarterback in 823 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: high school. Went to Wisconsin initially as a tight end 824 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: and then you know, he's a big guy, so then 825 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: they moved him to the offensive line and he excelled there. 826 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: Good smart guy that can think right. Yeah, learn every 827 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: position exactly, every single one of him, just as we 828 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: said for the breakfast restaurant Bobby Evans. Yeah you like that. 829 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: I missed Bob Evans. I do. Clarence sent us on 830 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: that one. But in preseason, man, Okay, this week you're 831 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: left tackle, this week you're right guard, right, yeah, next 832 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: week you're going to be left guard. Yeah, learn everything. 833 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: Well what's interesting though, now, I mean you still have 834 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: an offensive line that is going to be young in 835 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: terms of its depth, and the Rams did that last year. 836 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: And it worked out very well. But this year, I 837 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: think it's going to be interesting because you've already got 838 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: a guy in Jamil Denby who was a pick last year, 839 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: so you, I think have to be able to count 840 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: on him to say, all right, you know these spots, 841 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: you're going to be our primary backup. Right? Does that 842 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: seem off to you? No? Not at all. Yeah, and 843 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: I mean the depth chart to start absolutely right, Yeah, 844 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: at least initially. I mean he has earned that because 845 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: Bob Evans, I think would also qualify for that as 846 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: somebody who's kind of like Joe drafted in the same 847 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: range as Joe note Boom last year. So can he 848 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: learn all those positions and set the Rams up for success? Oh? Yeah, 849 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: way that That's the way I would see it. I 850 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: mean we are on April twenty nine, so this is 851 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: a very long way away from week one at Carolina. 852 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: But the way I would think of it today, you 853 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: probably have your five starters in Whitworth, note Boom, Alan Blyth, 854 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: and Havenstein from left to right. Then Jamil Demby and 855 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: probably Bobby Evans as your two backups that would be 856 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: up with Austin Blythe as the backup center does that 857 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: sound wrong. Yeah, well you keep eight or nine and 858 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: you activate seven. Yes, yeah, I mean and that those 859 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: those other two rotate depending on how they practice that week. Absolutely, 860 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: it's depth. It's great. Yeah, you know, but just know 861 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: if you're Denbee, you're not going to see as much 862 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: attention from your coach this year as you did last year. 863 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: Well you shouldn't have to, right hopefully. Yeah. We'll see 864 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: some guys only can ride a bike with training wheels. Yeah, 865 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: that's true, That is very right. Yeah, they're great at 866 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: spring drills when the coach is standing ten yards away. 867 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: Put them in a game, they don't know what to do. 868 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: We'll see, right, training wheels, man, you gotta take those 869 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: off sometime, all right. Text pick safety Nick Scott out 870 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: of Penn State. Uh, the twenty ninth choice of the 871 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: seventh round, two hundred and forty third overall pick. To 872 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know how much about him. Yeah, 873 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: but just more depth for that room, right, Yeah, and 874 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: you're replenishing special team exactly. That's where I want to 875 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: go with it. Interesting listening to him on his conference call, 876 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: he was talking about how he was not at the 877 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: combine and so you know, special teams coordinator John Fossil 878 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: was breaking down his tape and then he calls him. 879 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: He's like, man, you should have been at the combine. 880 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: You know I'm watching you. You're good, you have really 881 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: good skills. This is a guy that Bones prioritize and 882 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: the Rams were able to get him. And this is 883 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: somebody who has a chance to become one of those 884 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: special Teams aces that we know well from you know 885 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: Bones time here with the Ring, no doubt, and not 886 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: to base everything off Bill Belichick, but why not? Right? 887 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: I think sure, I think he knows what he's doing. 888 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: If I could find a Matt Slater, I would Yeah, 889 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: Matt Slater does one thing and he does it really 890 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: really well. Right, if I could find that guy, so 891 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: be it. If I have to keep changing guys to 892 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: find that guy, then so be it. But I want 893 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: that special teams guy. Well yeah, I mean this is 894 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: this is somebody that I think of like Cody Davis, right, exactly, 895 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: perfect example. He did things very very well. The Rams 896 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: signed him to do a second contract and then let 897 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: him go in free agency last year. But you still 898 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: had somebody who was a special team's ace and was 899 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: able to come in on pretty much every team and 900 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: excel can block, get off blocks, make tackles, right, so 901 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: be it Andy smart, don't make mistakes. Yes, yeah, good stuff. Yes. 902 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: Final pick two hundred and fifty one overall, Dakota Allen 903 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: out of Texas Tech, in a name and face recognizable 904 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: from the second season of Last Chance You. I'm shocked. 905 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: This is the first guy drafted from Last Chance You. 906 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: Did you hear that I did from that program. This 907 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: is the first guy that's actually been drafted. There's been 908 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: other pros, but as far as being drafted, shocking. But 909 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: I love this. This is what I call the dented 910 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: can aisle. It's the same quality ingredients. The can is 911 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: just dented and the label is scratched, so you get 912 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: it fifteen cents cheaper once you open it. Needed who cares? 913 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: Same thing? Dented canis stopping at Aldi today instead of exactly. Yeah, 914 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: it's the same stuff, just here. It's cheaper. It's so big, 915 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: but it's it's Micah Kaiser two point zero. Another tackling machine. Yeah. 916 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: That always shows up where the ball is perfect, right, great, 917 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: more depth? Absolutely, yeah up, good replacement for Hagar. That's 918 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm sorry. No, no, don't be sorry. It's good. Yeah, 919 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: it's show synergy. Oh yeah, between the two of us 920 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: here were on the same page. Yes, No, he's somebody 921 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: that can come in and play on special teams and 922 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: then be also a backup inside linebacker. You know, somebody 923 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: that can do both of those things is what you want. 924 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: I think out of a seventh round pick. I like 925 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: him just watching going back, I watched the Netflix show 926 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: Last Chance. You got a chance to see some of 927 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: his game film and at Texas Tech, and it's the 928 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: same stuff he is. He's a ballhawk. Um, he's a 929 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: room bot. You ever seen a room botot the little 930 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: robots that vacuum your room and room roomba room bot, 931 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: same thing. You put a battery it is, but charge 932 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: it up and know what you're doing. It just does 933 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: his job. That's the same thing. I'm sorry, I just 934 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: completely derail what you were going. No, I'm just look, 935 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: if you could if he was a like, if he 936 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: was a robot, you'd program him get me football. And 937 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: that's exactly how it looks on the field. Yes, yeah, no, 938 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: it is. And I that's why I think he is 939 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: a good, solid pick at that point in the draft, right, 940 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: that's where you want that and just somebody who's got potential, 941 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: but you know that they're going to out have to 942 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: play special teams in order to really kind of make 943 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: it in the league. And you know, as far as 944 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: his story, what I thought was good that Sean McVay 945 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: said was that, you know, you we always talk about 946 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: how if you have him adversity, how do you respond 947 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: to that? And so Dakota Allen is somebody who is 948 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: taking responsibility for his actions. You know, he went to 949 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: Eastern Mississippi and my community college. And from everything I've 950 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: ever heard anybody talk about Scuba, Mississippi, that ain't a 951 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: fun place to be. Like Serena Ralis, our reporter, he 952 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: had done a story on them in one of her 953 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: previous jobs, and she said that that is at place man, 954 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: that really ain't much in Scuba. Wow. Wow. You know 955 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: I remember being like coaching in NFL Europe and we 956 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: take these guys over and the minute they hit a 957 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: foreign country, right, so Germans just saw professional football players 958 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: and they went nuts. So these NFL Europe guys started 959 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: acting like Pro bowlers here just over there, you know, 960 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: with the big heads and the swag and all this 961 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: type of stuff, and we had to get them in 962 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: the room and get honest with them and let them know. 963 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 1: You know, the NFL doesn't send their good players over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 964 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: there's a reason you are here. So you still have 965 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: an opportunity, right, Yes, It's all about how you handle it. So, 966 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I thought that last chance you 967 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: was about. You don't really want to be here. It's 968 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: not about how many championships they win. This is your 969 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: last chance. This is where you don't want to be 970 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: right yeah. Yes, And so it's good that he has 971 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: been able to take that opportunity to run with it, 972 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: go back to Texas Tech, become a captain and do 973 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: what he did there. But I think his first team 974 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: All Big twelve at linebacker this past season, second team 975 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. So when you look at that, yeah, 976 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: to me, that says something about his character. And that's 977 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: something about the guy. And so you somebody that you 978 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: like to root for, and we'll see what happens once 979 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: you get here. Now I'm not saying I would do this. 980 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: If I was a coach, I' damn sure do this. 981 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: If I was a player, I'd sit next to him 982 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: at lunch and ask me, Hey, yeah, what's Kingsbury like? 983 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: Does he like to do? What does this mean? Yes? Absolutely, 984 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: I would download information from him about who you were 985 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: about to play. Yeah, no doubt. What is what's interesting 986 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: about Kingsbury and that the draft and getting Kyler Murray 987 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: number one overall? The Rams won't have to face them 988 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: until December, So there's going to be at least a 989 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: good amount of tape on Kyler Murray that you can 990 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: study in that offense. Yeah, but I know you still 991 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: have to go out. You can study it. It don't matter, 992 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Let me tell you my Michael Vick story. 993 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: Have I told you my Michael no a friend that 994 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: played receiver in Atlanta when Michael Vick burst showed up. Okay, now, 995 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: he was telling me about the struggles of breaking in 996 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: a rookie and then learning to play with a guy 997 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: like Michael Vick. Right, So it was a second and 998 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: seventeen and he was running an eighteen yard comeback. Right, 999 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: So he's driving the corner off and then coming back 1000 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: on the ball is gonna be right there, chup the 1001 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: first down, Right, he gets to the top of his route, 1002 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: which is at eighteen takes a step, comes in, has 1003 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: his hands up for the football and Michael Vick runs 1004 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: right by him. And he just said he just stood 1005 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 1: there with his hands up and just watched the play 1006 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: like was he offsides. But that's what it's like playing 1007 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: with guys like that. I mean, when they see it, 1008 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: they can break it and they can run, and it's 1009 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: you have to be ready for the jazz session, like 1010 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: you have to run routes like the balls coming. But 1011 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: just no, this guy could run by it any second. Yeah, yeah, 1012 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: that's that's really eighteen yards And as soon as he 1013 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: turned around, Vic was behind him right, amazing that he 1014 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: was able to Vic was able to run that far. 1015 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean, was fast. A shotgun miles. That's what it's 1016 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna be like with Kyler Murray. Yes, they're gonna be 1017 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: They're gonna be a primarily a shotgun team. And he 1018 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: was primarily shotgun at at not Arizona. He's going to Arizona, 1019 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: but at Oklahoma. Yeah, and I mean think about what 1020 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's offense is a but also I mean you 1021 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: look at it a guy like Russell Wilson too, they're 1022 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: mostly in shotguns. So that he can see yeah. Yeah, 1023 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to be able to let Kyler Murray 1024 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: see beyond the line of scrimmage. Do you remember the 1025 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: video was it? It was Tom Petty. It was some 1026 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: show where Prince was doing the solo. Oh, this is 1027 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 1: must be the Hall of Fame, the Hall of Fame day. Yeah. 1028 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: You don't tell Prince what to play. He just let 1029 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 1: him play. Yeah. Yeah, and if he wants to go longer, 1030 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: you just the drummer keeps going. Huh. Let Kyler Murray 1031 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: do what he does. Don't try to rein him in. 1032 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: Let him play how he plays. Yeah, I'm sure that 1033 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: that's exactly when he asked you how I how I 1034 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,919 Speaker 1: can get better than you, coach. Yeah, just let him play. 1035 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 1: That's that's something on him. What about Nick Bosa going 1036 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers interesting but not for football reasons. 1037 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm being serious. It's that's interesting. That is really really interesting. 1038 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how this goes. Yeah, but 1039 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 1: football wise, Oh yeah, another Bosa is loose in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, 1040 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: good luck. You couldn't block the other one. Yeah, and 1041 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: this one has a chance to be better. That's what 1042 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: That's what Joey says. That Nick has is probably better 1043 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: than him. I remember way back when when the Williams 1044 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: sisters were young and they had the little thing. Yeah, 1045 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: they had the beads in their hair, and we used 1046 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 1: to laugh at Richard Williams the father, like wait until 1047 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: you see Serena, Like Menis is like the best. You 1048 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: can't wait wait until you see Serena. Will wait until 1049 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: you see this Bosa. Yeah yeah, this guy's just as good, 1050 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: if not better. Yeah. Yeah, that's really interesting. And also 1051 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: as we would take you, I would have before you 1052 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: sign the contract, I would say you can't have a 1053 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 1: cell phone. You can't, You're going back to a pager. Yeah, yeah, 1054 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: don't say anything, don't tweet anything, just just play. That 1055 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: would be ideal. Um. Also, do you see at a 1056 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: Seattle the whole peak Carroll DK metcalf thing. Yeah, interesting, interesting, interesting, 1057 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: it's like USC in Seattle again. Um, SC when he 1058 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: was here was the most dominant team on the field, 1059 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: but they were also scary getting off the bus. This 1060 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: dude fits in. He's good. Lord. Yeah, yeah, I don't 1061 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: know how good of a football player he is. I 1062 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: don't either, but if they ever teach him, what's what 1063 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: you've got? A problem. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you look scary. 1064 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: Think about this dude coming up like on a crossing 1065 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: route and you're the backside safety that's got to come 1066 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: up and hit this dude. Yeah, you better come do 1067 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: it and enjoy it. As Aaron Donald likes to say, 1068 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: you better bring your big boy pads. You better go 1069 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:24,959 Speaker 1: for the ankles. Yeah, any parting shots, uh? Endgame? Oh yes, 1070 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: Avengers endgame. Shout out to Marvel for Traffic, a very 1071 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: very good film, and all you idiots and jerks that 1072 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: keep leaking things, let people go see the movie. We 1073 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: will not we will not spoil anything on that. Yes, 1074 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: but it was awesome. It was great, It was fun. 1075 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: I had a great time. I thoroughly enjoyed it too. 1076 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: I saw it at like I think my showing started 1077 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock on Thursday night. Yeah, so like that. 1078 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: And I did it because I did not want to 1079 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: be spoiled, right and I but I'll tell you, I 1080 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: was kind of hurting on Friday, Like, thank goodness, the 1081 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: traffic didn't start until you know, four o'clock, so I 1082 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to come to work. Better. It was worth it. 1083 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: It was absolutely worth it because I wanted to see 1084 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: the story. I want to see it again. If this 1085 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: was back in the day before you could buy tickets online, no, no, Lie, 1086 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: this would have been a movie that I would have 1087 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: camped out for. Really, I would have brought the pup 1088 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: tent right in front of the movie theater and slept 1089 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: there overnight and got the ticket in the morning. That's 1090 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: how excited I was. And it was everything that it 1091 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: should have been. When did you see it? Ten o'clock 1092 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: Friday morning? Okay, yeah, so I didn't get the spoilers. Yes, yes, yes, awesome, awesome, awesome. 1093 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Go see it and maybe we'll talk 1094 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: about it with spoilers next week, but yeah, I won't 1095 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: do that right now. All right, everybody, Thank you so 1096 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 1: much for tuning into this edition of Between the Horns 1097 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: for DeMarco Farm Miles Simmons. For all of your RAMS 1098 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: offseason program coverage, keep it locked on the RAMS dot com.