WEBVTT - Return to Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us on yet another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Help I Suck At Dating. We might not be

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<v Speaker 1>a People's Choice nominee, we might not be Banner Ashley I,

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<v Speaker 1>but damn it, we're here every week and we love

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Joined in studio by my good friend Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>who was back from his honeymoon. We're gonna dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the bellows and understand exactly what you guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing for the past couple of weeks. It's been so

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<v Speaker 1>long as I've seen you. Your tan, You're all of

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<v Speaker 1>the sun kissed skin, the facial here, it's somehow got thicker.

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<v Speaker 1>You are looking fantastic. Vanessa obviously is in her apartment

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal as well. Um, and we're just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>from there. We're kind of flying from the seat of

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<v Speaker 1>our pants today. When was the last I Suck At

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<v Speaker 1>Dating podcast with Dean, Vanessa and Jared all on at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Quite a while? Yeah, the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded all together was Tahoe. Wow. Quite the extensive

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<v Speaker 1>period of was about a month and a half ago. Right, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are so j I gotta say, you look really

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<v Speaker 1>good with the ring on your finger. Thank you, Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. I know there it is shining, glimmering.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it feel listening? Feels good, it feels normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you take it off like I should be wearing

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<v Speaker 1>this ring for a while? You take it off on

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<v Speaker 1>you sleep? Yeah. I already lost it once. Well actually

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<v Speaker 1>technically I didn't lose it. I misplaced it because I

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<v Speaker 1>found it. I don't know how that one. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short. We were in New York after we

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<v Speaker 1>came back from our honeymoon. We had to be in

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<v Speaker 1>New York for a few days. Ashley was recording Almost Famous.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to go to Barnes and Noble, walked around,

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<v Speaker 1>went to go reach for a book. Noticed that my

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<v Speaker 1>ring was not there. Another thing about my ring, it's

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't It's a little loose, and when my hand gets wet,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes very slippery and falls off easily. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very aware of this on the honeymoon. I was very

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<v Speaker 1>conscious of this. So I made sure to like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just have my hand in a fist. But then so

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<v Speaker 1>I reached for a book and Barnes and Noble. My

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<v Speaker 1>ring wasn't there. I had a panic attack because we

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<v Speaker 1>were about ten blocks from the hotel, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I could have lost it within any span of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was thinking rationally and thought, okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>had to have slipped off when I was either in

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<v Speaker 1>the shower or washing my hands. So I immediately went

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<v Speaker 1>back to the hotel. Check the shower floor wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>checked the sink wasn't there. Had another mini panic attack

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<v Speaker 1>until I noticed to the right of the sink, right

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<v Speaker 1>on the counter was my wedding ring. And so housekeeping

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to nicker Barker. Nicker Barker Housekeeping for keeping

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<v Speaker 1>my ring on the counter. They must have saw it

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<v Speaker 1>either on the shower floor on the sink and took

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<v Speaker 1>it off and set it there and just forgot. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have remembered. So so when you go to

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<v Speaker 1>bed at night, you take it off and put on

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<v Speaker 1>the nights No, No, I keep it on. I just

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<v Speaker 1>keep it on. Yeah, why don't you just get a

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<v Speaker 1>size a little bit better? I'm going to Oh, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been away. That's a good point. So anyway, I never

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<v Speaker 1>take mine off. Just for the record, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why anybody takes those off. I never take mynef get

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<v Speaker 1>it dent if you don't take it off. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want that dent. That dens kind of do too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a permanent wedding ring. You know, you're so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends who are married that take theirs up

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<v Speaker 1>to like rock climb and like the things that required

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<v Speaker 1>rock climbing. You don't want to lose a finger in

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<v Speaker 1>case it gets caught. I was gonna take it off

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<v Speaker 1>while working out, or I should say attempting to work out,

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<v Speaker 1>but then gotten used to it. South Beach diet. Baby

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<v Speaker 1>always about it. So tell us about your honey when

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<v Speaker 1>you went to Positano to uh Santorini. Yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 1>left immediately after the wedding. We got married on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>left on that Monday because that's what actually always wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Left flew to And I'm sorry, I'm gonna cut you

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<v Speaker 1>off there. I just have a question. So is i've

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<v Speaker 1>an answer? Is that typical for married couples to do

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<v Speaker 1>or do you typically stay around in the venue area

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days and then leave. I think

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally you leave pretty immediately. I don't know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what Ashley wanted to do. I think traditionally usually for

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<v Speaker 1>the honeymoon pretty immediately and you know what, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>up to the couple, I think. But we left immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>flew into Naples at then went to a Malfi coast, Naples, Florida. Naples,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida was great, drove up to Orlando, went to Disney World.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been the honeymoon I wanted. No. Italy

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<v Speaker 1>was fantastic. We went to a Malfi coast, went to

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<v Speaker 1>past Toano, and then we took a ferry to Capri

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<v Speaker 1>and Capri was absolutely gorgeous, which is an island off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Italy. Uh. And then we flew to

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<v Speaker 1>uh Santorini in Greece, which was absolutely breathtaking. Spent five

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<v Speaker 1>days there staying Uh. Yeah, you know, we stayed outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Eau. We were only about a ten minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So we went to EA many times. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We had this sunset cruise that we did

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<v Speaker 1>for a day which was breathtaking. Uh, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just an incredible time. It was really nice. Um actually

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<v Speaker 1>was spot on when she said she wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>that because she wanted to feel like husband and wife,

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<v Speaker 1>like a married couple. Of she didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>married and then go immediately back home because we had

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to go on a honeymoon, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to take advantage of it. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right because it did feel different. Like yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody as soon as they find out that

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<v Speaker 1>you're on your honeymoon immediately treat you differently or give

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<v Speaker 1>you coupons for free drinks, or like, oh my god, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, just get married and let me see the rings.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so it was quite an experience and it

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<v Speaker 1>was truly, um, one of the best two weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Did you fly first class? Well, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>personal question. We we did, though, uh luckily knock on Wood. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not the entire trip, but we were able to the

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<v Speaker 1>long stretches from here over to Naples. We were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get. It's business class. It's different. The reason I

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<v Speaker 1>asked is because I just watched the Friends episode where

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<v Speaker 1>Monica and Chandler are on their honeymoon and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of them gets upgraded the first class for free

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<v Speaker 1>because they say that they're on their honeymoon. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get upgraded and we just you know, but um, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>ironically though, actually sister Lauren and her boyfriend got upgraded

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<v Speaker 1>to first class when they flew back to Los Angeles randomly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I kind of worked out for them. But the

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<v Speaker 1>honeymoon was was awesome. Uh, pictures looked amazing. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was an incredible time, and honestly, her

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<v Speaker 1>and I just really relaxed the entire time. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of sight seeing, a little bit of traveling,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we didn't want our honeymoon to be

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around from place to place and feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>had an itinerary. We really just wanted to relax and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy our time together and eat and and lay out

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<v Speaker 1>by the pool and drink and and you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>romantic and all that we have five days in Santi

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot Castor is a small island, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like you get, it's good that you can

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of relax and unlined and yeah, really unlined,

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<v Speaker 1>which was great, Uh, you know, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible time that I'll never forget. And the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>was just absolutely stunning, and the best weekend of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your first podcast episode post wedding too. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the best weekend of my life. So we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably have into that a little bit too. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the highlight of the honeymoon specifically? Though? Highlight of

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<v Speaker 1>the honeymoon? Um, while there's so many of like whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's location or dinner or like our favorite well, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite dinner, Uh, probably was this small restaurant that

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<v Speaker 1>we went to in Capri. So the hotel that we

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<v Speaker 1>stayed at was in the middle of this little village

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<v Speaker 1>where we could go and walk around. There'd be little

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<v Speaker 1>shops and coffee and espresso and restaurants and and so

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<v Speaker 1>we went to this restaurant one night that was just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a small little nook and the food was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we got two pasta dishes, and the pasta

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<v Speaker 1>there is outrageously good. Because did you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>were less bloated after you had pasta? Yeah? Actually actually

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<v Speaker 1>did some redshirts into this because you you don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you eat a huge bowl of pasta over here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your stomachs full, you feel bloated, you feel grossedy,

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to lay down over there. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel bloated at all, and it it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you ate this huge heap of pasta with sauce. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's apparently because there's no h, you know, pesticides

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's not. It's less process it's all organic there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pasta was so fresh and tasted amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just that was probably one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>dinners in one of the high lights. And Capri itself,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a highlight for us. Um. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>so the dinner and Capri and Capri, so all in all,

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<v Speaker 1>Capri was just that. I think Capri was our our favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Santorini was stunning though, all three past Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Multi Coast was incredible as well. But the resort that

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<v Speaker 1>we stayed at we had a room um which was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of located down by the water um and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was on a cliff, and so in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get to our room from the hotel every day,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to walk about two hundred steps. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a workout. It was a workout and they're not easy steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Those you know, each step is about awkwardly sorry, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's about three ft wide, and they're like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same size step every time. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a different size step. Yeah, you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously rocky and different levels and uh so we certainly

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<v Speaker 1>got our steps in there. Um and I felt really

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<v Speaker 1>bad because our last day. Of course, the hotel really

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take care of you, and we had two

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<v Speaker 1>suitcases with us, and so they're, yeah, the guy is

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<v Speaker 1>this This guy made like Ivan Drago from Rocky four,

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<v Speaker 1>literally throw two over his shoulder and just walking up

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<v Speaker 1>the steps. Because if he's Hercules, those guys are crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they do it every day, so like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>get used to it and then like build a tolerance

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<v Speaker 1>or for or whatever. But yeah, you always see them,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, god, that's impressive. Yeah. But I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the highlight as well as our first dinner in Amalfi,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it was our first dinner, uh on our honeymoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a breathtaking view. Um so that was probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the did you guys stop in New York

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<v Speaker 1>on the way there, on the way back or the

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<v Speaker 1>way back? Oh and you went to Jonas Brothers concert? Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>actually wanted to go to the Jones Brothers concert because

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<v Speaker 1>we had a good New York for a few days anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course she timed it perfectly where the

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<v Speaker 1>Jonas Brothers were in town that that day. So we

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Staples Center and so the Jonas Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>perform and they put on a great show. You know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they're musically talented. They put it on a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed myself. It was funny though, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by girlfriends or wives with their significant others as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who probably were in the same boat as me, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm enjoying myself. I'm having fun. They're losing

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<v Speaker 1>their sho but I'm I'm having a good time. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, do admire your willingness to go along with

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<v Speaker 1>um Ashley to those types of things. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>been to so many Rob Thomas concerts. Come on, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she likes Rob Thomas. Yeah she does. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more musical musically, he is more both

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<v Speaker 1>of our style brothers more. I mean, I very much

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy Sucker. That's a fantastic song. Obviously I couldn't name

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<v Speaker 1>a single Jonas Brothers song, but you no, sucker, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's on the radio all the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen to the radio. I don't have radio

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't see very insulting to those of us in

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<v Speaker 1>the radio industry. My heart studio right now to the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you feel like you were you had more

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<v Speaker 1>privacy while you were in Europe on your honeymoon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a couple of you came out to us

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<v Speaker 1>that were also on their honeymoon, which was really sweet. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people were saying, we know that you

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<v Speaker 1>just got married. We just got married. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>this really nice moment between us. But all and all, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was very secluded in private, which was

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. Ashley and I really had some time to

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<v Speaker 1>try to soak in every moment of the honeymoon because

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, it's never gonna happen again. We only

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<v Speaker 1>have one. Uh, so we really tried to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we enjoyed every second of it and just uh

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<v Speaker 1>collected as many memories as we possibly could and just

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<v Speaker 1>really live in the moment um. And we tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do that honestly, from the entire time. When we flew

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<v Speaker 1>into Rhode Island up until you know, when we flew

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<v Speaker 1>back to New York when it was all said and done.

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<v Speaker 1>Since he was we're gone for what to week. We

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<v Speaker 1>were doing in Europe for twelve food days. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. It was a long time. We wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure um that we you know, it's a long

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<v Speaker 1>flight to you know, it's about ten hours, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we really wanted to try to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 1>could extend it as long as possible because with such

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<v Speaker 1>a long flight, we wanted to make sure we get

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<v Speaker 1>your time's worth exactly. And also, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>only my second time to Italy. I've only been there

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<v Speaker 1>once before and that was in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley had hadn't been there and I think fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like we're able to go to Italy

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<v Speaker 1>every other weekend. So it was really kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>of those moments where we want to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>our time because we have no idea when the next

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<v Speaker 1>time we'll ever be in Italy. And it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I was ever in Greece granted to Santorini,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's the island, but I had never been in Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we're Did you fly into San three report? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you find Athens and take the boat up? No? No No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>So we flew from Capri actual excuse me, from Naples

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<v Speaker 1>right into Santorini, which a lot of people were flabbergasted by.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Santoris airport small? It's the worst airport I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been to my life. No customs either, No customs

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<v Speaker 1>I had, Like I remember what I flew out of Santorini,

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<v Speaker 1>just flew right in and walked right into the country.

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<v Speaker 1>What marks Mark laughing over there? It's so relatable. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Santorini's thet everted to you, uncultured swine. Santorini

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<v Speaker 1>is in Greece. It was just it's small. What you

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<v Speaker 1>hate about it so much? What's your with Santorini? Experience

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<v Speaker 1>with it was I had a flight out of Santorini

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<v Speaker 1>airport at three am, and I got there at one am,

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<v Speaker 1>And at one oh five am I get an email

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<v Speaker 1>saying my flight was delayed seven hours and so I

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<v Speaker 1>had to stay in the city airport for an extra

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<v Speaker 1>seven hours. I saw you post about that. I'm very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bad one. That is about how can you

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<v Speaker 1>delay a flight seven hours. I was not happy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it ended up working at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so what did you miss most while you

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<v Speaker 1>were traveling? What did I miss most? Because like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're, um, I think I missed two things. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>One I missed our dog Lois. Uh yeah, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>our child, so we really missed her. And then secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>I really missed being with my family, our family, um,

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<v Speaker 1>after the wedding, because it was such a moment and

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<v Speaker 1>a night in a weekend that I really wanted time

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<v Speaker 1>to just spend with everybody that was involved, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her parents, my parents, siblings, friends, family, and just like

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<v Speaker 1>be like and just talk about it. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be such an interesting, interesting contrast to go from

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding, which is your friends, your family and you're

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<v Speaker 1>like all spending time together consistently for the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, to then just you and actually for four

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<v Speaker 1>days in a row. Yeah, it's like you're you're surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by all of these people all the time and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's just you. And actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gotta be weird. I would imagine. Actually, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really that weird. I think I'm actually and are

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<v Speaker 1>so comfortable with each other and just being around each

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<v Speaker 1>other all the time now that it's really second nature,

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<v Speaker 1>like an adjustment I guess maybe, but yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it was weird for you, and actually just

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<v Speaker 1>like to go from the smothering and like all of

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<v Speaker 1>this attention from all the people being at your wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>which I want to let's talk about your wedding too,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously it was beautiful and it's funny. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have fun I had? Did you? Are you being sarcastic? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't really talked to you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we we've talked since, but not like I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't asked you if you had funny. I still can't

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<v Speaker 1>get over how much fun I had. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I gotta go to a wedding. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never really big fan of weddings, but then I was

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<v Speaker 1>there and I was like, holy cow, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most beautiful things I've ever been to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about it to my friends, who um like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we're removing vasterlination. One friend in particular, who was

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<v Speaker 1>like a big, big um like Disney fan, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just played a lot of Disney songs at this reception

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like losing her and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you should have seen the setup. It looked just like

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<v Speaker 1>it was straight out of Beauty and the Beast's Castle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they were playing like the Disney music on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that. I mean, I had a blast. My

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<v Speaker 1>only complaint if I if you were to come to

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<v Speaker 1>me and have like a team, give me one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you didn't like about the wedding. I'm not asking that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, okay, it just ended too early. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was it ended at uh well, we had

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<v Speaker 1>ended at midnight, so we had everybody leave at love

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<v Speaker 1>forty five, which is not early. It's not early, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I was having so much fun I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go longer. No, that was what we wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were supposed to end an hour early,

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<v Speaker 1>and that night we extended it an hour because the

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail party was going long because pictures were taking along,

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<v Speaker 1>which I feel like anybody who's ever gotten married can

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<v Speaker 1>relate to that. Of course, pictures are taking longer than

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to um, but we we extended it and

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<v Speaker 1>we really that's awesome that you said that. And probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best comments that anybody paid to me

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire night was that so many people came

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<v Speaker 1>up and said, this is the most Ashley and Jarard

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<v Speaker 1>wedding we could have possibly imagined, which really felt the

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<v Speaker 1>world to me because Ashley and I worked so hard

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the past year with our wedding planner, Troy Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>whose company is called Simply Troy, which I find fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>you you met him. He's a bald gay man who's

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<v Speaker 1>just the most fantastic human being you'll ever meet in

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<v Speaker 1>your entire life. And he um, his company is called

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<v Speaker 1>simply Troy because everything simply like He's just simply grateful,

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<v Speaker 1>which I find hysterical. A great job, Oh, he was incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and his entire wedding team was just phenomenal and and

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<v Speaker 1>he did such a good job of letting Ashley and

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<v Speaker 1>I really incorporate our personalities at this wedding. Uh. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even like you talk about the music, every song that

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<v Speaker 1>played was was picked up by Ashley and I and

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<v Speaker 1>we just you know, had the band play um. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were just like, can you please play

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<v Speaker 1>these songs? We're like, yeah, sure, this is great. And

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<v Speaker 1>then with DJ Jack, who is laurence boyfriend, we asked

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, like he plays songs. Then he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to put the mix together. And then during the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner we had the the the string Quartet play musical

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<v Speaker 1>movie themes, which was awesome. Sounds a yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just we we we wanted to make sure we put

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<v Speaker 1>details in there that meant the world to Ashley and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Even for example, during the ceremony we had two readings,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were your traditional readings. They were movie read things,

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<v Speaker 1>and people can give us crap for that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really care because it was what Ashley and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them was so we had a one

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<v Speaker 1>bridesmaid and one groom's been go up and do a

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<v Speaker 1>reading from a movie and the first one was the

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<v Speaker 1>finale scene from Jerry McGuire where he comes in I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for my wife, and then that was fantastic, And

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<v Speaker 1>then we had to do another reading from When Harry

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<v Speaker 1>met Sally, where of course he goes to the New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve party and confesses his love for from Meg

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan's character and they did a great job with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick dominated it. It was awesome. Also, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to point out this, like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>awkward that I'm talking about the wedding because of the

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<v Speaker 1>history between Vanessa and I. Uh and Vanessa, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you don't feel awkward about talking about it, and not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I I was watching you stories and I

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<v Speaker 1>found it absolutely amazing, and like I said, it just

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<v Speaker 1>ended up happening that that weekend too, was my grandmother's funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah, I texted you. Yeah, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was just, Um, I absolutely loved watching his stories and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing you know, like watching every everyone else's reaction is

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<v Speaker 1>to your The whole experience from like even when Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>was trying on wedding dresses to seeing her final pick

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<v Speaker 1>of her wedding dress was like, oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure all the girls that were following her were so

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<v Speaker 1>amazed by her dress and like everything that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>put together. So absolutely no hard feelings at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>love hearing these stories. Um, but thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for pointing that out. No, it's weird because I just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley was Yeah, it was she looked breathtaking and and

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<v Speaker 1>just the entire day, you know, like I I think

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<v Speaker 1>back on memories. It's only been a month, but like

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<v Speaker 1>us playing football on the beach, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>you know Cupcake getting her It felt I just felt horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but like that was so much fun. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsal dinner was so much fun. And then the day

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<v Speaker 1>of just hanging out the house. I mean, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember any of that, but because I slept in until

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<v Speaker 1>like three, oh, that was fantastic. It was like four pm.

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<v Speaker 1>The ceremonies an hour and a half, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so we gotta get Dean's. It's because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the night before we went out to O'Brien's. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right, tonight's like the last

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.320
<v Speaker 1>night Jared's a single man. I'm gonna get him as

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<v Speaker 1>drunk as possible. I'm like buying shots forever. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you were taking the shots. I took two. I

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<v Speaker 1>took two shots, right, well, so my goal was to

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<v Speaker 1>get you as drunk as possible, But in reality, I

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<v Speaker 1>got myself as drunk well because you kept going and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like I'm getting another shot, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, and they're like, all right, I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, he's taking another one. Good God,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you know. I'm glad that everybody had fun. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even think back on that moment before, right

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<v Speaker 1>before we went into the church all together, when it

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<v Speaker 1>was just us Grunsman in the side room and Alan

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<v Speaker 1>was there as well, Alan Gale, who officiated at our wedding. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like moments like that, you're so nervous. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so nervos. I was just so overwhelmed with so

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<v Speaker 1>many different emotions because it's such a weird feeling and

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's been married can relate to this where everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>that room is only there for you, celebrating your love,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so many people different walks of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that it's just this like like you were there

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<v Speaker 1>with my dad and high school and stuff. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Nick was there with you know, uh yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not only my father who's my best man, but like

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>my friends from school and high school and and just

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<v Speaker 1>like it was this surreal moment where so many people

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that have been so close with me from all different

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>aspects of my life now are all together in one

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<v Speaker 1>room and it's everything I ever wanted, um, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>marrying my best friend. It was just it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. It was really cool. Man. It was cool. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I talk a lot about it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if people think that I'm talking too much

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it was just it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those one of those one of those weekends, you know,

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:40.879
<v Speaker 1>one of those days. I think it'd be weird if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't talk about it. Yeah, I guess right if

0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, it was cool, moving right along,

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>which honestly, like if and when I get married, it's

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.119
<v Speaker 1>probably I'm gonna do. Yeah, I get married, whatever's talk

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>about it anymore, that's probably gonna be an issue. So

0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it's good that you're so so jazzed about it. I

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think that's a good thing. I guess. I'm sure there's

0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of listeners who are either planning on getting married,

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 1>or there are and they are engage, or I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where like I feel like the person that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with is the person that I want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life with. What is a piece

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of advice that you can give to us listeners, to

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the listeners who are taking that extra step and if

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you were to go back and say, you know what

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I spent We spent too much time thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>for the wedding. Not not important, Like what's something that

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you can say was helpful to do? I'm sure like

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 1>having a wedding planet it was really helpful. What's something

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that you thought, well, there was no point of thinking

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 1>about this or stressing out over this. UM. I think

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<v Speaker 1>my best advice is to make it your own as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible, and don't worry about what anybody's gonna

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>think or or you know, just do what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Because Ashley and I were a little where

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<v Speaker 1>we were stressed about a lot of things because we

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<v Speaker 1>were really hard on the wedding with our with our

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<v Speaker 1>wedding planner, uh, and we spent a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and we were very stressed about that and curious,

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what is it going to be worth it? It's one

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<v Speaker 1>day of our lives and this is what we're putting

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Um And looking back on it, it was

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.919
<v Speaker 1>worth every second of effort, It was worth every dollar

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we spent because it just created a memory that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you how grateful I am for. So that

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<v Speaker 1>would be my advice is to make you know, don't

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.360
<v Speaker 1>be it's everything that you're stressing about right now during

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the wedding planning, or if you will stress, you will

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.280
<v Speaker 1>stress during wedding planning. It's all gonna be worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all gonna be worth it, you know, um and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and personalize it, you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're spending money, if you want, like, don't be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to ask. I remember when we were asking the band, uh,

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we kind of felt a little um, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say self absorbed, but awkward to say, hey, can

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you play these songs? And then we're thinking about it.

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's just do it, let's just ask, and they were like, yeah,

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of course we can play the song snores. And then

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>every song that was played there, every song that came on,

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh I love this song. I love

0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>this song. And then um, you know, and then even

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>like the movie readings, you know, we knew people are

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, oh ked, they're they're having movie lines,

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, that's what we want. And

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody seemed to really enjoy it, and it was fun

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and it was emotional, and we put so many of

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>our details into it, even like simple things like our invitations,

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the like the on the outside of the envelope it

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<v Speaker 1>was it said A and J with the Superman symbol

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<v Speaker 1>around it, which I don't think a lot of people

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>picked up on, but it was something that was so

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>meaningful to me to be like, oh, instead of the

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>S and there, it's the A and J, you know. Um.

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And so we just had a lot of fun within.

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's my best advice is Yep, it's definitely me

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>more expensive than you think. Uh. And there's gonna be

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>payments that you have to make at last minute that

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you're going to stress out about, and it's gonna seem

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that like nothing is coming together and is it gonna

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>be worth it? And I promise you it all will

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>be worth it because when that day comes and you're

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<v Speaker 1>with the people that you love the most, um, and

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>they're they're celebrating you and your love, there is not

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>a feeling like it in this world that I have

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>yet to experience, which, um, you know, I'm sure we'll

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>be topped if you know, Ashley and I are uh

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, lucky enough to have kids one day. Um.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>But for the moment, it was Yeah, even my dad,

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad came up to me. So I got to

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>see him before we flew out on Monday, and he said, uh,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>he said it was one of the highlights of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I mean no money

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>could ever match, you know, hearing that from your dad.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess. One final question, the one that we're all

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>dying to know. Oh good, it's not about sex, Jared,

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's where your mind going. Did Dean hook up

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>with anybody at the wedding? I kiss Nick, Yeah, to

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>apreciate kissed me on the list one time. I definitely

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>kissed you. This is something about me. When I'm drunk

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and around my friends, all I want to do is

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>kiss him. Yeah, that's not the question, right. The question

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>we're all dying to know is under your tuxedo at

0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the wedding while you were setting your vows, were you

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>wearing a love Man shirt? No, I should have. We

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to name one of the drinks love Man, but

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>then it was actually, I'll tell a quick story, So

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn came. Caitlyn and Jason and I forgot that I

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 1>had said this on my first season of Paradise, but

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we were going to name one of the drinks especially

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to drinks love Man, and then apparently my first season

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of Paradise, I said I'm not love Man anymore because

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that was for Caitlin, And then I remembered it while

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>making the drinks and I was like, well, we can't

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>name one of the drinks that anymore. Um, but but yeah.

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>One more thing about the way I was so happy

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was in Rhode Island. You know, I'm so glad that

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>people came and loved Newport beat. It's happy. Man. It

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's like the type of town like if

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you were to pull someone out of any country in

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the world and you're like, you need to show them

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a town that that mimics America, that like that shows

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you in America looks like right. I just feel like

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like a very quintessential American town where you can

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>just like be there and be like, okay, like this

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>is like a it's like the Victorian houses or whatever,

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and like the ruffles with the red, wet and blue

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on them, on the white picket fences on the top

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>floor of the house. I don't know. It was mind blowing.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Is beautiful. It is, man, It's just home, you know.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I loved I'm so happy that we

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>were able to have our wedding you know home, uh,

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad everybody loved me port and and

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. And I'm so glad the weather was nice

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and cooperated because that was really a game changer. And

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that was another thing that I loved about the entire

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>wedding process was making sure that Rhode Island, my home,

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was incorporated in it, even with uh, you know, we

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>had Dunkin Donuts there where people took Shake Jack was there,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>which is obviously West Coast, but shake Shack that we

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't know Shake Shack was coming. They surprised us, so

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>shout out to shake Shack for doing that. Uh. And

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>then like everybody took professional photos, which they all received,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but they also were I don't know how they did this.

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>They took the photos and we're able to print them

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<v Speaker 1>on donuts, and then everybody got a donut leaving the wedding,

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>which was spectacular and delicious. And then we had like

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a Dell's lemonade dessert, which is very uh quintessential in

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. The bartender Adam as one of my really

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>good friends who I used to work with at the

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Providence Oyster Bar, and he's the best bartender I ever

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have seen. And he came and bartended the wedding because

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I wanted everybody to have like a V I P

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>experience and I knew he would provide that. Um and

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>just like to have all those like little details in there,

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and they were far more than I can't remember now,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but just to really like hit home with something that

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>meant a ton to me. Well, we love it, we

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>love you. It's great that you're able to experience that.

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>We're grateful to be part of that as well. No, no,

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I know I love you both, guys, And uh, I'm

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>really glad. Yeah, you're married. Now I'm married. I'm hustitating.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>You upgraded from sucking at dating to hopefully not sucking

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>at being married. Yes, this week is your one month anniversary. Hi,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it was yesterday. Yesterday was four weeks since we got married.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>You made it a month, made it a month. That's

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I was a betting man, I know

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>anybody who lose money in this room right now, Let's

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>be honest. Easton's pulling out his wallet right now. I'm

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>happy for you guys. Anyways, will definitely be drawn back

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to this quite a bit, just because obviously it's super

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting and it's a big part of your life now.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>So UM, but before well, I guess not before anything.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>We are going to move on to the next segment. Dean.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>We need to talk about you because you've been on

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a TV show. You just came back to it. You

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>asked the woman, I don't know if you love her,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>but you really like her to leave paradise with you,

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and we find out the answer when we get back.

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I can totally relate to this. So I've recently

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.640
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0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.120
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0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to hire some interns. And let me tell you, it

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:03.080
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0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.360
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0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.800
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0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.720
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0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.280
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0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.760
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0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.800
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0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.280
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0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.520
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0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.320
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0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.720
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to help I suck a dating Vanessa Dean

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>myself all in studio and Dean, we have to talk

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about you, because now we've seen you leave Paradise, come

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>back to Paradise, asked for Kalin back after you broke

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>up with her, when you gave her the birthday cake.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things going out and a lot of

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of things happen. You have to remind

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 1>them of the birthday cake thing, the birthday break up.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Was it really a bad well, I thought it was

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>nice to give her the cake. I don't know. I

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>also think that was overblown, the whole stop stop with

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the mic thing. Yeah, sorry, I just want to get

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in position. He's getting nervous. Um. I I thought the

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>whole birthday cake was overblown, Like at least you were truthful.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you the birthday cake with the whole leaving

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on her birthday? I don't know why people, I mean,

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess it wasn't. Let me just set the record

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>straight because there seems to be a lot of miscommunication

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>about what actually happened. I dumped her at three am

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the day after her birthday. It was no longer her birthday,

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and I am so sick of being criticized for dumping

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a girl on her birthday when it wasn't even her birthday.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But I guess the question is should you have just what?

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>What would have been worse you either telling the truth

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in the moment or holding off till the next day

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and then possibly maybe not getting another chance to be

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>honest there was So I I'll say this, I think

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you did the right thing. I didn't go into the

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>night expecting to break up with Caitlin that night. I

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>think I can share that what made you want to

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>break up with her? Well, Vanessa, I'll get there. I'm

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>building it up a little bit. I'm trying. I'm trying

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to tell story here. I'm a storyteller. I went to

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that night. I guess I went into let's let's reverse

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>engineers all the way from the beginning. So I walked

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>down to paradise that I didn't want to be in

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with anyone. I was very clear about that,

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>not only with Kalin, but with everyone on the beach,

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the contestants, the producers. The entire time. I was like, yeah, like,

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just here. I'm not gonna leave as a boyfriend.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna leave with a girlfriend. So obviously it

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>begs the question why I even go to Paradise, which

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.479
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about before. I went because it was fun.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It was that fun thing to do, and there's nothing

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>wrong with doing that. For example, when you go on

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a date with someone, sometimes you always don't go into

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a date with the expectations, oh, I'm going to develop

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with this person. You go because you meet

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>someone and it's fun and you never know what's going

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>to happen. R Why would you say not to an

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>opportunity just because you like, it's silly to say no

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to things I didn't have exactly, Like, it doesn't matter.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't miss out on anything by not going, So

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>what's the point of not going? Anyways, that's the point.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a very well known fact that me being

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>on that beach was just there to have a good experience.

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And you're honest, from the very moment you walked down

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>with everyone with Kalin, with the content estence with the producers,

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>everyone knew that. And it got to a point where,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, at this point after dumping Kalin, which I

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>think we talked about it on a podcast a couple

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, was you know, I was on the

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>beach for like six days Kitlin was getting really really

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>invested in the relationship. I liked her, but I knew

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>very well that I wasn't going to leave the beach

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship with her. And because of that and knowing,

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess I sho could say this too. Was like,

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>even within the first ten minutes of meeting Kylin the

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>first time, she told me that the person she was

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>most excited to meet was Connor s. And I appreciated

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>the honesty. I appreciated her telling me that, and I

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>knew that Connor s still was slotted to come down

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to that beach at some point, And I knew that

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>if I was on the beach with her and him

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, she wouldn't be able to fully

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>explore that relationship that she's so clearly expressed that she

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>was interested in exploring. And I knew that Connor want

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>liked her, like I knew that they would have hit

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it off. Aknew that they would have got along well,

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>but they wouldn't, like I said, wouldn't have been able

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to fully explore that with my presence on the beach.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Because of that, because of my knowledge of not wanting

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to be in a relationship, I was like you know what,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense for me to stay here. It

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense for me to allow your feelings to

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>continue to grow and grow and grow for me when

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm not going to get to the

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>place that you need me to be. I know that

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna like this other guy, and I know you've

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>been wanting to meet him for a long time. So

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna bow out now allow you to explore

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>that connection. I left, uh, and then obviously I regretted it.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought about her a lot. I drove to the

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon. I reflected, I thought about things. I thought

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>about how if I want to be in a relationship,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to be good at being in a

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship until I like practice and I try and I

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>work on these things. It's a it's a muscle. If

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't work out the muscle, it's not gonna get

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>strong enough to ever right. Like I said in the show,

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>if I wait until I'm perfect to be in a relationship,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to spend the rest of my life alone.

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that. Um and so, I called

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the producers and I was like, hey, like

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm sad, like I don't. I don't. I think I

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>made the wrong decision, and I guess we can we

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>can actually go back a little further. That night, on

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>her birthday, I was talking to one of my friends

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about next steps. They were like, well, like,

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, Like what are you doing here? Why

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>are you here? You're making this You're you're not making

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this girl, but like this girl is like falling and

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>falling further for you and further for you. And I

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, you're right, like I can see this like

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 1>getting to the end and me like absolutely crushing her

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>because I've made it very clear don't want to be

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.959
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, and so we concluded that now would

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>be the best time for me to leave. Yeah, I

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>think going into paradise with the idea that you're not

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>going to leave in a relationship, I think is fine.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But once you're down there and you start developing a

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>relationship with someone, then it would have been wrong of

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you to stay and continue that relationship if you still

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't see you ending up in a committed relationship after

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I was so said in my conviction

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of not leaving in a relationship that I wouldn't let

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.439
<v Speaker 1>anything stand in that way like that was what UH

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>was paramount for me. I was like, I'm not leaving

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. I don't want to be in a relationship.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not leaving in a relationship no matter what my

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings developed like on the beach. And so the reason

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, But the reason I say that too that

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's bad for anyone to go and

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>not thinking they're gonna end up an relationship is be

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>is most of the time people are wrong. And I've

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>noticed that so many times, either my friends in everyday

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>life or going on the show say like, I'm never

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave in a relationship, I'm not going to date

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>this person, so on and so forth, and then they

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>go on a date with someone they're like, Wow, actually

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like this person, and they were wrong, right,

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say that, And it's better that I

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>almost prefer it to UH to meet someone that doesn't

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a relationship, because then when you

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>enter into a relationship with them, you know, like they

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be in the relationship because it's you and

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>not because they want to be in a relationship. It's

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>almost more romantic in that sense, in my opinion. Anyways,

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I fly back, I go to Sandy, I fly back

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>to San Diego. I called my producer friend. It's like, hey, hey,

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I made the wrong choice. I'm really upset.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>He says, just like, take some time to think about it.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>If you wake up tomorrow morning and you still feel

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>this way, give me a call and we'll fly you

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>back down to Mexico. So I drove to the Grand Canyon,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>spent a couple hours out there, just like thinking about things.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Driving obviously you can clear your mind. Um slept on it.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Called him up the next morning. Actually that was the

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>morning that I flew here. So I called him up

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I regret my decision and I

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>want to fly back and see if Klin will reconsider

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and take me back. And so he goes, great, I

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>got you a book on a flight. You're leaving tomorrow morning,

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>eight am, whatever it is. So I come here, record

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of podcasts with you guys, and fly back.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, it's funny to say this because it worked

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>out perfectly for me. It couldn't have worked out any

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>better for me. I missed a wedding that I, you know,

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris and Crystal are great, didn't really want to go

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>to their wedding. Not only that multiple excess of mine

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>were at that wedding that I just didn't want to see.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Kaylin at the same time, got to explore a relationship

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>with a guy that she was really interested, unencumbered of

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>my presence, so she had didn't have to like have

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>me around seeing you know, like worrying about my feelings

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.479
<v Speaker 1>while she could explore her relationship with him. I gotta

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>come back and record two episodes of our podcast. Didn't

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>miss a single week of our podcast. It just it

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>did it. It couldn't have worked out any better. Scheduling

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>was on point that way. It literally blew my mind,

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>like how the stars just aligned for all of that stuff.

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And obviously, like let's say I went back and I

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't get uh what I what I went for, which

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>was the relationship with Kalin at least. And you kind

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of uh consoled me a lot on this before I

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>left too. You were like, dude, just do it, and

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like if she says no, at least you'll know. And

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>if she says yes, then that's great because you want

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to be in a relationship but if you if she

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>says no, like you know that you put yourself out there.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>You tried your best and it didn't work out, and

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you can have no regrets about that exactly. And MY

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>big point when it was your decision, when you told

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>me this, I thought it was a great idea for

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you to go back, was that you didn't want to

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>go back into Paradise. You wanted to go and say, Kalin,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I want you to leave with me now. And I

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a big difference because if you went

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>back down there and said, hey, I want to come

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>back into Paradise and continue dating you, I don't know

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>if that would have been a good look. And if

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm being honest, I don't know if she would have

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>taken you back at that point. But I think you

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>going into Paradise and saying I don't want to be

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>back here. I just want you, and I want you

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>to leave with me so we can see if this

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>works outside of here. It was I think that made

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>her really believe that you were there only for her.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It was it was a joint decision between me and production.

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. It was one of the things where they

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>were like, this is how it should be like, this

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>is what you should do for the same reason that

0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you just stated. Like, they were like, you need to

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>add scar to leave with you on the beach. You're

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.479
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to like stay on the beach and stay

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's fine, I understand the reasoning

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for that. Let's do that. That makes a lot of sense. Obviously,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it has a lot more pressure for her because then

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>she has to leave the beach. And yeah, Kalin agreed

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to leave the beach with me. And what's funny is like,

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously I ship my mustache off. I wore all look

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>like damn stud I even I was talking to you

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 1>about this off air. When you walked down those stairs

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and you had that dark navy short sleeve button down

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>on black, it was black. Excuse me, look navy black

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>button down and just the hair slicked back long, luscious,

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it's at the perfect length, mustache shaved. You walked down

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the stairs. I was like, Dean could be coming for

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>me and I would go with him. You know, I

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was dressed for my own funeral, That's why I was

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>wearing all black. But I showed up and actually when

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I was walking down the stairs onto the sand, it

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the normal entrance, which is like basically centered on

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the beach, right, like you're familiar with the one that

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you walked down when you're entering the beach. The first time,

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it was the one all the way at the south

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the beach, and so I had to walk

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>around and I had this long, dramatic walk up to

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the bed, and like people were like pointing at me

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. And as I was walking down

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the stairs, I was like, I don't think I should

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>be doing this right now, Like this is a mistake.

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I regret being here because I was like terrified that

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I was there and she was going to say no,

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 1>and like I wanted her say yes and it would

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>just be embarrassing. But I kept reminding myself. I was like,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>this is the right thing to be doing right now. Um.

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 1>And so I talked to her, and I would say,

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately after talking to her the first time, like

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like I said on the show too, like I can

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>typically get a pretty good beat on people and I

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>have like a good way to read the room. Whatever.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But I was still pretty split. Although I was more

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>confident that she would leave with me than she wouldn't,

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>they were still like there were still doubts in my

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>mind that she would stay. And my favorite moment in

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Paradise history, I think happened on this episode. So Connor

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>is sitting on the day bed with a couple of

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>people and one of those people are Christina and this

0:40:55.880 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't this episode his last episode, and Connor was like,

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think she's gonna stay with me, like I don't

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>think she's gonna leave a Dean. And then Christina looks

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>over at Connor and says, have you met Dean? And

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>she goes and he goes no, and she goes okay,

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>And it was just like that moment where like Christina,

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>who's been through it, who has day to do in

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the past, knows how charming you are. It was just

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>like such a real moment where else like that is

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I did. I chuckled and I saw that because it

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>was just so good. Okay, as if like you're dead

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>man walking bro. I saw that. I was like, I

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of weirdly complimentary of Christine. It was

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the most It was the biggest comment anybody could possibly

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>say his Connor is a good looking guy has a

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>lot going for hims, very sweet, very nice. I like

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Connor a lot, but like in that moment, it was

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 1>liked him a lot until I started talking to about

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>my van, and then I didn't like him at all.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw that it was that there was like a

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>little twitter. I thought that was a joke, but I

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>can't tell. Well he I mean in the episode he's

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>just saying Deans a can loser. He used to be

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>like get out of here, which I'm sure like he

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.879
<v Speaker 1>was being fed those lines. Yeah, that's probably prompted too,

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so you never know if that's actually how he's feeling

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>or if he's just being prompted. What's funny is I

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>met him in person at the reunion show chairs next

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>week and he was like, dude, I want to see

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>your vein, Like it sounds so sick, like you live

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on an awesome lifestyle. I think a lot of people

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>say dumb stuff when they're angry. I egos being bruised exactly.

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>We've all been jerks in that moment, so like, doesn't

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't say those things? Like he was acting like

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a jerk in that moment. But it's understand as a

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>viewer because I've obviously never been on Paradise, but as

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>a viewer, was it only one week that you were

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>on Paradise and then you decided to leave? Because for

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>people who are watching, and really feels like an eternity

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're on the beach together. I think the first

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>time upon my first arrival of my first date with

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Kalin to me breaking up with her on her birthday

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was six days of the beach, so not very long.

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Granted you're spending every waking moment with each other because

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you have nothing really else to do. I would say

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like five to six days, maybe maybe five is more accurate.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously when I was back on the beach,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I was on the beach for like an hour. I

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>had a conversation with Kaitlin, she left, had the conversation

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>with Connor, she came back, had the conversation with me,

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>She went back and had the conversation with Connor, and

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>then she left with me. I don't remember the specific

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>logistics of that, but I do remember seeing from a

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 1>distance she was like like I talked to her, which

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of surprised she even took the time

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to come talk to me, talk with me, and she

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 1>made it clear after the fact. She was like, yeah,

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't gonna come talk to you, Like I

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even going to entertain the conversation with you because

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I was just like still piste off at you. But

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>then she said that she saw that I shaved the

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>mustache and she was like, okay, cool, I can talk

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to him. And then and then she goes back and

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 1>she like pulls Connor aside to go talk to him,

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and Connors like walking away shirtless, and I like see

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like more back muscles than I've ever seen on a

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>person in my life. And I was like, man, that

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>guy is literally a hundred yards away from him, and

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I saw his muscles so finely and so acutely. I

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, this guy is There's no way she's gonna

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>leave with me. She's gonna leave with this guy. So

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it was like this weird back and forth and I

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>was so confused and I wasn't sure what was going

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to happen, and whal Kaitlin was talking to Connor, Christina

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>came over to talk to me. And when Christina came

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>over to talk to me, I was like, just just

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you have no reason, you have no no point being here, like,

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be here talking to me right now. So

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know if you can tell

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>by watching the episode, but I was like super dismissive

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and very short with Christina being there because it just

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't make sense for I didn't involve her and she

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>was involving her. She was inserting herself and something that

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't involve her exactly. And like, yes, of course Christina

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 1>and I have dated before, so maybe she knows better

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>than anyone on that beach what it's like to date me.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>But I just didn't see the purpose of her coming over.

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And it would have been weird if she was having

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about potentially leaving with a guy and you

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>went over and talk to Christina was and started like her,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>it would it would be it would, yeah, it would.

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't like it, very weird. So if you

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>saw if you saw me being short or dismissive, that's

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>why I just like it didn't make sense to me

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>why she was there. I didn't I went there to

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to Kilin. I didn't go there and to talk

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to Christina. So I just didn't. I didn't want to

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 1>be talking to her, you know what, I mean, I

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>get what Christina was trying to do in a sense,

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, it just it wasn't her place. Um.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And then what happened. So how did it feel once

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Klin said I'll leave with you? Um? It felt obviously

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it felt great. I got I got what I wanted, uh,

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>which is always a good feeling. I think that she

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>got what she wanted, you know, going all the way back,

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin deemed me a year and a half ago to

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>try and meet up for coffee. Obviously like nothing transpired

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>between them and going to Paradise, but like she expressed

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>interest a long time ago, and so for her, I'm

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 1>not going to speak for her, but I'm I guess

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I am right now. She wanted to, she wanted to me,

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna do it anyway. Like she's getting what

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>she wanted to. And so it was like it was

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a it was a weird like fairy taleish romantic ending

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to a weird way of going about dating each other.

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And yes, like maybe being able to remove myself from

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Paradise for a couple of days and like drive and

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like explore my thoughts and like talk to my friends

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and see what they thought it allowed me to like

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>have more clarity and perspective on a situation, to let

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>me go back and be like, look, I'm not going

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to tell you that I have all the answers to

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>this relationship. It's probably gonna be difficult and we're probably

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna stumble through a lot of this stuff. We're not

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>very similar in a lot of ways, but I want

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>to try, and if you're willing to try with me,

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I think that way you should give it a go. Yeah,

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I think the biggest part about jumping

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>into a relationship is knowing that you're never going to

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have the answers. You know, a commitment is choice. You're

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>choosing to be someone, excuse me, you're choosing to be

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>with someone. And so I think a lot of people

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like yourself, Deem, sometimes when you feel like you don't

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>have all the answers, or if there is a small

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>amount of doubt in your head, that immediately makes you

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>run away because that scares you. But the fact is

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>most likely in every relationship there will be those moments.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're only human, and so I think it's

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>really I thought it was when you first told me

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 1>you were gonna do it. I loved it and I

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 1>still love it, and I think it was the right decision.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 1>And I think it was the best thing for you

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and Kalin because you never you would have never known

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>what could have possibly happened had you not gone back

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>down to Paradise. And look at you now. Now you

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>guys are together dating. It's been two months, and I

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 1>thought about it too. So a couple of my good

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>friends removed from, well, one good friend from the show,

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>one of my best friends removed from Like that doesn't

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't part the part of the show. Ever. I

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>talked to both of them for like quite a while,

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of hours while I was driving, you know,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.839
<v Speaker 1>obviously just what you do is just driving talk. And

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>both of them were like, don't go back, man, Like,

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:17.839
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense for you to go back. Why

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 1>would you go back. You can just d m her

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and talk to her when she gets off the show.

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking about I was like, well, no,

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I saw how I saw a how interested she

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was in meeting Connor the first time, like she expressed

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that to me. B I saw how quickly our relationship

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>grew over such a short amount of time, similar amount

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of similar time frame for her and him, and so

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like chance they leave the show in a relationship together.

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, yeah, I could wait until

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the show's over and done filming, but she's probably gonna

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>be dating someone. And then it's like, also, if a

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship started on TV, I think it almost kind of

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>makes more sense for me to come back and be like,

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>this is like this sort of unfinished business and we're

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna it started here, so we need to finish it

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>here as well. There'd be like a lot of unanswered

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>questions if it if it happened off, it would be

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>like a much more tricky and hairrier And so I

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, the only logical thing for me to do

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 1>right now is to go back. Yeah, and the most

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>valuable thing we have is time. Why waste it? Why

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 1>waste time in you thinking, Oh, I'll just I'll wait

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>till she gets back and see what happens, And I

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>was a lot can happen. It was it was like

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like fifty for a long time too. I

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I'll just wait. I even sent her

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a long I sent her a long message on Instagram actually,

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like that, I'm sorry language I

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>said that, and uh, and yeah, enjoyed it. I enjoyed

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.320
<v Speaker 1>when you told her that you're you wanted to stop

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 1>running away from good things in your life. And I'm like,

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>this is a side of Dean that we all love,

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that we all see and now he's starting to see

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it in him too. And I remember when we did

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that one episode when we were in San Francisco. I

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 1>had like a bunch of notes about when you left,

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god. And then for me,

0:48:54.680 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think when it stunk for me, I remember who

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 1>said it on the episode. Someone was like, oh, that's Deaned.

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>That's Dean though, like they it was like when you

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>had left and you had broke her heart and whatever.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I don't remember who had said it,

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, I was like, I hate the fact that

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you gave yourself that reputation. I hate the fact that

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you allow other people to talk about you like that

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>when we all know, the people who know you and

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>love you all know that you are so worthy of

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>this love and so worthy of a person who's going

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to stick by you and leave a dating show with

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you when you know she was interested in someone else too.

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So it like you said, everything did happen for a

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>reason and all worked out in the way that it did. Um,

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but I hope to give yeah, I know, I just

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>hope the takeaway for you was that you are deserving

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:45.839
<v Speaker 1>of this. I appreciate that, Vanessa, thank you. I don't

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 1>really know how to properly respond to that, but I

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>did make a point. I even told calin this after

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we left. I was like, honest, because we left with

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe like six or seven days of filming remaining on

0:49:56.600 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the filming schedule, and part of me was like, if

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't if she didn't want to leave the beach

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>because she wanted to stay to get more screen time

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote or whatever, you know what I mean, then

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that's all the answer that I would need anyways, because

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>she wanted more screen time, then she's not the girl

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:10.879
<v Speaker 1>that I want to be doing. Anyway. I think by

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you going in Paradise, you created so much clarity from

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the situation that would not have been there had you

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>simply sent a d M. When she got back, I'm

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 1>so surprised that production even allowed me to return, to

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>be honest, they were they were like obviously encouraging of it.

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>They're like yeah, if you like the girl, come back

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and get her. But I was like, that's crazy to

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>me that you guys are even letting me do this.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Why it's it's drama. Who are you talking about? It's

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:32.760
<v Speaker 1>good drama. But when have you ever seen a contestant

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>leave and then come back? I'm just saying it's I

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's ever really happened before. When did you

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>ever see a girl in a relationship with another girl?

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Was a lot of firsts in this uh and season.

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>We're pioneers. Um so yeah, So we left together and

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>then we got back, spent a couple of nights in

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the van, and then talk about all that stuff right now, right,

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>we can talk about whatever you want. And then we

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>traveled to the thing about me and Kitlin is like

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we're so different, we'll have some relationship. Been since you

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>left Paradise together. I mean, it's been great. So it's like,

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's been it's been turbulent at times, like she's

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>been through her fair share of the drama this season,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and that kid sucks having to be part of that

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 1>third from like a third party perspective, but obviously I'm

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>supporting her through that and I'm like trying to remind

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>her that there's a lot of good that's come from

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the season. Oh yeah, yeah, I know, we're talking about

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I got it, um, And so like it's hard to

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>see her like handle lot of stuff. And obviously I'm

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>going to bat for her because she's my girlfriend, and

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>um kind of feels like forever ago. It does feel

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like forever go. And I kept telling her. I was like,

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna forget about this in like a week

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and two weeks. I know, but in that moment, that's

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>not what you want to hear. In that moment when

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going through that drama, it's like you think everyone's

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.439
<v Speaker 1>reading about it, you think everyone's talking about you, and yeah,

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like BB five percent of the followers that are following you,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>no one talk are talking about it. But that's not

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what we want to hear. And it's tough to be

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.720
<v Speaker 1>rational in that moment because yes, I agree, everybody forgets

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>about it in two weeks, but in that moment, it's

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>your world. No, I agree, I understand, but it's not Yeah,

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>but you're right, but it's not easy. And so we've

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we've like traveled a bunch together. Individuals were pretty different,

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like she we're working on her adventurous side, you know.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's it's been great, but just as

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 1>humans were a little bit different, and so it's just

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>as like the discovery phase of like what do you like?

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>What don't you like? What can we do? What can't

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>we do? Yeah, exactly, it's fun and every couple is

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>going to have their disconnects, Like every couple is not

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>going to mesh well perfectly together and like sink right

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>into each other's lives like I like to live in

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a van and rock climb and she, you know, lives

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>in West Hollywood and likes to hang out with their friends,

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>which is great, And I just like it's a learning

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>process to learn how to be supportive and present for

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>her and vice versa her for me. Um, but things

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>are going well, Like it's it's you know, I think

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I went back to the show to basically show that

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm committed to figuring it out. Yeah, and I think

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you'll learn. I mean, trust me, you've been in relationships before.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>With committed relationships comes compromise and sacrifice. But that's not

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>necessarily I feel like there's a stigma in those two

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>words that it has to be a negative thing when

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't. And that's something I've discovered over the

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>past almost two years now, uh of really learning that

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>compromises can be a positive thing. I don't know it

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of I think it shows a different side of

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>me than I've really ever known before, if that makes sense.

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of the compromises that we've made

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 1>for each other. Well, what I'm talking about is, like

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you current, like you want to live in a van

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and travel and do all these things, but they're gonna

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>be times where she needs you to be somewhere and

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.399
<v Speaker 1>you have to be there because you're her boyfriend. And

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>so that's something to me that's a compromise. But it

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>shows stability, it shows uh responsibility, you know. And so I,

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I look at that as a positive

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>rather than a negative. Um, so hold on to clear

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the air the air for a second. So Dean air

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 1>mundy deed unclear? No it's not. But I'm gonna ask

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>you a question right now, and I just need a

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:58.280
<v Speaker 1>verbal yes or verbal note. Dean Deanie babies Dean Ungler.

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Since the beginning of this part cast help I suck

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>at dating with Dean Anglert a year and a half ago.

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You've been a single man. Are you in a relationship? Yes, yes,

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But I've been in a relationship before on this podcast, Leslie, Oh, Leslie, damnit?

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Leslie. Well, this is the last time committed.

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Still exciting, and I have a girlfriend. I will say

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>that we've I don't know if I should cheerless or not,

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but well, we've taken the biggest step I've ever taken

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>in a relation. You say that, Wait, really, and wait,

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>what's the biggest step? The biggest step I've ever taken

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. And I don't know if you don't

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 1>even know if you and actually have taken this step yet.

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can hope. So I don't think Vanessa

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and Josh have taken it either. I'm sure Mark and

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>his wife and Eastern and his wife have. But you

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>guys in a thruble or something? What's going on? Kyleen

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.919
<v Speaker 1>and I, as of yesterday are on a cell phone

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>plan together? Oh my god, Wow, commitment. It's a two

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>year commitment. Two years you signed on the dotted line. Huh,

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's uh, we're both on Verizon together, dude, that's

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a more of a commitment than proposing to someone. Yeah,

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.359
<v Speaker 1>so that's a big step, Verizon. But that's how are

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you on a plan with the I'm not. Actually, I'm

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>not on plan with my wife. You're not the heck up?

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Actually wait really wow? Wait? What how are you? How

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>are you not on the same plan? Takes care of me? Okay,

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's well, Dean, congratulations, I'm being on the same phone bill.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I keep telling it. I'm like, what happens when we

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>break up? Because that's gonna be weirds just turning on

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:50.839
<v Speaker 1>a dark mood. So yeah, I don't really know how

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>much of it I can share again because we still

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 1>have the reunion episode next week, which we're we we

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>won't talk about next week, maybe talk about in Vegas

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the following week. I don't know if maybe she's gonna

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 1>get upset with me for sharing this stuff because technically

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>we still beginning. Can you have her on and you

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 1>guys talk about it together. I'm never going to have

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>her as a guest on this podcast. She's coming on.

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 1>That's unegotiable. The clock that's non negotiable. I'll side into one.

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>If you really wanted that to happen, why would you

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:26.399
<v Speaker 1>ever say that on air, it's non negotiable. Go friends

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.440
<v Speaker 1>come in here. Yeah, exactly, and they're past Sorry language,

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not why your past girlfriends. Why would

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you not want her on here? I don't know. I

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:36.880
<v Speaker 1>just like I don't know other people from the outside

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Speaker 1>looking in judging a relationship that I'm happy, and so

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm just thinking to judge it even more

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 1>if you say on air I don't want her on

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, I don't care. I don't want her on

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. We're gonna fly actually on the podcast yet know,

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>but she's more than welcome. It's all because it's too

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>much Ashley and Jared. You know, we need some separation here.

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>The point to other story is it's non negotiable. She's

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>never going to be a guest on this podcast, and

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.439
<v Speaker 1>that will have her on when you're not on, it'll

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>be Jared and I and Kaitlin. Sure, I guess I

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.720
<v Speaker 1>don't mind that. I just don't want us to be together.

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>We just fly to Montreal and have in that room

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>with Vanessa. There's nothing you could do about one on

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 1>one girl talk. I could certainly just walk out the door. Um,

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what were we getting to there anyways. Yeah, yeah, so

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that's basically the extent of the relationship. I'm sure I

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>forgot a bunch of things. I've been working on clearly

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>communicating my thoughts and ideas more, but I still struggle

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>with it. So if you have any more questions about it,

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 1>please email us help. I suck at dating at iHeart

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>media dot com. I would love to answer questions about

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the relationship. If you have any questions about Jared and

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Ashley's wedding or honeymoon, help I suck or just our

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship as a married couple. I think that could be

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>very relatable as a newly husband and wife. I love it.

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating at iHeartMedia dot com. The same

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.919
<v Speaker 1>thing with Vanessa to Vanessa is currently in relationship. We're

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>all in relationships, yeah the relationships. Only one of them

0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 1>has a shared cell phone plan. I wonder what I'm

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 1>just kid anyway, Yeah, if you have if you have

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>any questions about Vanessa and Josh's relationship, what it's like

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>dating Canada, Canada, Verse America. What could be the differences

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 1>in dating? You know, some eat poot tine, some eat

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>ptch up on their French fries. I Suck a Dating

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>at iHeart Media dot com. We want your questions. We

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to answer them, and you know,

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we sometimes pull those over things like unintentionally, but like

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if you have a thought or an idea that we

0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about that you want us to expand upon. I

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Suck a Dating at iHeart Media dot com, email us

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and will answer them on air. Yeah, we always love feedback.

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>We love the Facebook group Helped by Second Dating podcast.

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.959
<v Speaker 1>You can follow us on social media on Instagram, Help

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I Second d Jared recently took over the reins for

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the help I SUCU Dating Instagram page and it's been

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>doing very well. I think I gained a couple hundred followers. Um.

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>But I thought that was a great post because I

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 1>found him and his Broncos and then me and my Patriots,

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, or are you like Vanessa

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and you can give a rats ask and you just

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>live your best life. And then it was a picture

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>with you in the red nose. Yeah, that was amazing.

0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 1>You're doing a great job of manzing. I I need

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that more support. I'm not gonna lie. Um, okay, so

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna answer one email above via listener but before

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>we do that, we're gonna take one quick break and

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>diveright into it. I should probably go all right, we

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>are back and we have a listener email that our

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>beloved Mark is going to read for us. So nice.

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It's anonymous. She says, I've been dating my boyfriend for

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a few months now. He won't say I love you

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>over text message. He was the first to say it

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>out loud, and when he first said it, I felt

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it might have been too soon, but I said it

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>back anyway. I'm comfortable saying it now. He has no

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>problem saying it's me. We're together, but apparently he has

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>an issue with typing it out over a text. Do

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you think this is something I should do up? Or

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>should I let this go? Hi, I'm a red flag.

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>It's very nice to meet you. What do you think

0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it is? Do you think he's hiding or yes, I

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's hiding something, Vanessa. Imagine Josh coming up to

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you every day and saying I love you, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and then you go to text and

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<v Speaker 1>saying I love you, and he's like, well, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>write it in text message. She's not saying that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the conversation is like this he just

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<v Speaker 1>not saying and she never approached him about and it

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<v Speaker 1>never brought it up, or he just I think she

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<v Speaker 1>should bring it up. I don't think she should bring

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is fine. Honestly. Well, it says that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he has an issue with typing it over text.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming she's saying that because they have talked about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird. No, I don't think so. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just judging by how it was read. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he just says it in person and he doesn't type it,

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<v Speaker 1>And because of that, I don't think there's really any

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<v Speaker 1>harm and be like, hey, like why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>say you love me on text but you say it

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<v Speaker 1>in person? Right? Yeah, I don't mind her saying that

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<v Speaker 1>she has to sorry. I assume they already had this conversation. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe they did. I just from reading it,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't it doesn't sound like it to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that she has anything about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking for our advice. First look. At the very end,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, do you think this is something I should

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<v Speaker 1>bring up with him? Okay, so maybe bring up Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason. Maybe maybe his el button is broken

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<v Speaker 1>on his phone or something, probably a really silly thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is a major red flag. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't If he's telling you he loves you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. I don't think he's worried about other people

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it in his phone. I think that's a stress.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Well. The only reason I initially thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad sign is if she if he verbally said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tough time texting it, because then you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want any ink, you know, which makes me question,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you not want anybody to see that? I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bet you when you bring it up with the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna be like, I didn't even realize. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't even realize that I was probably saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm a schmuck. I think he's might just make

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<v Speaker 1>him uncomfortable. There's something the sweetness to it that he

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<v Speaker 1>might not be cool with. I don't know. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be a stupid reason, and I don't think I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's totally oblivious to the fact that he's not even

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. Maybe a text message, and once you bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up with him, he'll be like, oh more cognizant

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea and say I love you via text. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's a real quick Laura has

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<v Speaker 1>a question for Dean. She has a thirty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old son who is interested in pursuing a nomadic life.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem is he has trouble getting off the hamster We

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<v Speaker 1>love working a full time job all day, pettycabbing in

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<v Speaker 1>Boston at night. There you go, Jared to make ends

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<v Speaker 1>meet in an expensive city. Plus he has to pay

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<v Speaker 1>off his college loans. How can you launch a nomadic

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle and still make ends meet? I got the I

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<v Speaker 1>got the reason, I got the secret sauce right here. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>just go on a bachelorette, simple as that. Uh. I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have any advice for him, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>honestly the only reason I was able to do it

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<v Speaker 1>is because I was always kind of stuck on that

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<v Speaker 1>hamster wheel as well, living paycheck to paycheck. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I went on the bachelorette, and I swear to god,

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<v Speaker 1>I hit the lottery and started to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do things that I wanted to do, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>those was moving too evanful time. I know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of an un uh conventional way of doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and like there really isn't much advice to be It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I hit the lottery, basically, you can't give it

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<v Speaker 1>some of advice on how to hit the lottery. You know, lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I got very very lucky. Um. And it sucks because

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask that question often, like via Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and stuff, and they're like, hey, like, I'm this

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<v Speaker 1>is my lifestyle. I want to live more like you.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I do it? And I can't really answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and just because I don't really have an answer for them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean it sucks

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<v Speaker 1>that you gotta kind of prioritize things and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what you want in life. Because if you do want

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make ends meet and save up and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially buy a house one day, then you might have

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<v Speaker 1>to continue what you're doing. But if you really don't

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<v Speaker 1>see that as a priority in your main priority is

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<v Speaker 1>living your life right now and traveling and see all

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<v Speaker 1>the places that you want to see, then you might

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<v Speaker 1>not make as much money as you hope. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the best way I could best advice I

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<v Speaker 1>could give you right now is to try to Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what your end goal is and work towards

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<v Speaker 1>that because unfortunately, we're all going to leave this earth

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. So you want to make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>do the things that you want most because I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully, many many many many many many years

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<v Speaker 1>from now, Uh, when you're on your deathbed and looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on your life, I don't think, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pettycabbing and Boston is probably gonna be the first one

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind. So, you know, money is very

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<v Speaker 1>important in this life, but it is. But also we

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<v Speaker 1>all have a different definition of what successes. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>success for him is his level of happiness and freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe he just needs a break a one year

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<v Speaker 1>or two year thing and then get back into the

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<v Speaker 1>hustle and bustle of a nine to five jobs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good advice. We're gonna end this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna end up a quote one that I

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<v Speaker 1>found just the other day that my friend posts on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram, and I think it's appropriate view this email

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<v Speaker 1>that we just received. It is short. It says, one life,

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<v Speaker 1>just one. Why aren't we running like we are on

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<v Speaker 1>fire towards our wildest dreams? And so for Laura to

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<v Speaker 1>your son, I think you should tell him that to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, look, if you want to do this, do

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<v Speaker 1>it because you only get one life. As Dared said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be here forever. And if you fail,

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<v Speaker 1>then you fail, and there's nothing wrong with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, failure is it's looked upon in different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go after the things you want in life

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't achieve them, that's not failure. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>failure would be not trying that all. That'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>For this week's episode of Help to Practice What I preach,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for skyping all the way in from Montreal.

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<v Speaker 1>And big thank you to me for being so vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and just wondering, looking and funny. Next week we have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of great guests. We got Nieve Shulman from

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<v Speaker 1>Empty Fish. We have Nicole Lappin, who is an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>author and she will be talking about her new book,

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<v Speaker 1>Becoming Superwoman. Um. And then after that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be head into Vegas and we're gonna be recording life

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<v Speaker 1>from there the Blackjack Table, so be sure to tune.

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