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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and

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Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's

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Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear

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Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we come.

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Speaker 1: I love that intro. It's what he likes to do,

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Speaker 1: what he likes to say, what he's like the comment

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Speaker 1: on that's true. I like to comment on a lot

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Speaker 1: of things in my life and the life and things

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Speaker 1: I see in your life, and things I see o television,

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Speaker 1: things I read, and as I travel, you get to

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Speaker 1: experience a lot of different situations that allows you either

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Speaker 1: issues at hand. I'm a confronter. Something bothers me. I

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Speaker 1: That's what animating conversation is all about information and how

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Speaker 1: to how to react to the information financially, socially, educationally,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, if you're trying to change your life

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Speaker 1: through your dreams, through gold setting. One of one of

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Speaker 1: the key roles in my interview that I'm about to

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Speaker 1: go into is that the family experience. One of the

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Speaker 1: key roles that we live in our lives as entrepreneurs

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Speaker 1: or small business owners is the amount of time that

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Speaker 1: you place with your family. Who are what is first

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Speaker 1: in your life? Is that your family? Where is your faith?

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Speaker 1: How about work? Your business? What is first? Where are

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Speaker 1: your spiritual beliefs aligned? In this emotional countdown, that's what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today's small business owners, people, gold setters, dreamers.

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Speaker 1: We ever talk, We ever talked a lot of We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about a lot of things with my next

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Speaker 1: two guests. One is the CEO and founder. Jamestown Music

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Speaker 1: is a Grammy nominated Billboard Music Art Award artists two

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Speaker 1: time Stellar Award artists J Harrison and Youthful Praise going

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Speaker 1: to their first ever number one Billboard Top Gospel Airplay

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Speaker 1: chart hit with their single You deserve it. In He's

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Speaker 1: John on the show today with his wife to discuss

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Speaker 1: their book A Miracle Marriage. I Forgive You, I trust you,

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Speaker 1: I Believe You, Volume one, they state that marriage is sacred,

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Speaker 1: marriage is powerful. For marriage has also been under attack

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Speaker 1: for quite some time. So on Money Making Conversations today,

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Speaker 1: we would discuss these things I mentioned in many upmore things.

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Speaker 1: Please working the Money Making Conversations JJ and Trina Hashton,

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Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? My friend? Pretty good? Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm

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Speaker 1: always whether you are well, trainer, you're there, Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having your Absolutely as you saw, I

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Speaker 1: made some comments about myself and uh, the family and

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Speaker 1: uh and a lot of people when you're I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to two entrepreneurs there, small business owners. People are living

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Speaker 1: their dreams and their dreams are being put in place

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Speaker 1: through their goal setting into their consistency. Where is put

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Speaker 1: in perspective before we actually get into into the book,

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Speaker 1: the role of the family and uh, and it's in

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Speaker 1: your role of being successful as entrepreneurs. We we we

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Speaker 1: honestly believe that your family comes first. You believe families

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Speaker 1: is your first ministry. And now often say that God

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Speaker 1: does things in order. He's not gonna bless you with

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Speaker 1: But we believe that God there's things in order, so

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Speaker 1: If you if you've read our book, and I believe

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Speaker 1: When things were not in order in our household, Uh,

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Speaker 1: things were not in order for nother one of our careers.

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Speaker 1: That did not happen until we got our family together. JJ,

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Speaker 1: we've gotten some moderate success, but things didn't change for

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Speaker 1: What You Guys, was talking on the phone having time

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Speaker 1: with an engineering degree, and it's the same line that

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Speaker 1: I have in math, and I'm hearing a person talked

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Speaker 1: similar to me. Because it's a plan through the whole process.

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Speaker 1: The plan I went out there I had. I would

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Speaker 1: go into the clubs and give people like, uh, can

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Speaker 1: you evaluate by comedy performance? And I was putting in

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Speaker 1: the folder, Yo, get my sheet. They look at me, going,

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, saying, it's a it's a form.

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Speaker 1: Just check off what you think of me in and

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Speaker 1: you can mail it in later. And I'm gonna use

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Speaker 1: this to get me bookings at other clubs. They wait, oh, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: We've never had anybody do this before. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just this is how I've been trained for my

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Speaker 1: BM You do a job, you give, evaluate evaluated by,

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Speaker 1: and people will pay you based on your evaluation. And

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Speaker 1: just hearing your logic. It's all in the same place.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, here I see these layoffs. Here's an

445
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Speaker 1: opportunity to let me take this severs pay. But you

446
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Speaker 1: also know there's no guaranteed. But you also know that, hey,

447
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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta work. It's a it's a long run,

448
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Speaker 1: and that's where people start falling off. M hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's been so many comics that I know that I've

450
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Speaker 1: tried to transition, Like, you know, I knew I needed

451
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Speaker 1: to be someplace, either Los Angeles or New York if

452
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Speaker 1: you really want to be in the business. I know

453
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Speaker 1: some comics they but like, well, you know, I saved

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Speaker 1: up enough money six months and I'm gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, you're not gonna make it in

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Speaker 1: six months. You know, it's just it, don't It doesn't

457
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Speaker 1: work like that. So I tell anybody, no matter what

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Speaker 1: type of transition you're trying to make, you gotta have

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Speaker 1: a plan. You um, And there's nothing I think people

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Speaker 1: feel like, well, you know, sometimes I don't have to

461
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Speaker 1: have a security net. Nothing's wrong to me. Nothing's wrong

462
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Speaker 1: with having a security net. I knew that if it

463
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Speaker 1: didn't work. I could always do something else. I could

464
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Speaker 1: teach after that, And that's another thing. And you have

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Speaker 1: your plan. But also having like a little backup plan.

466
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Speaker 1: And the backup plan doesn't mean that you're gonna fails.

467
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Speaker 1: To me, it's just something in your subconscious that you

468
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Speaker 1: know you'll be all right, you know, instead of having

469
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Speaker 1: nothing at all, you know, you know, have a plan.

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Speaker 1: This is a great thing about this, you know I'm

471
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Speaker 1: talking about because I gotta I gotta make this. I

472
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Speaker 1: made an announcement in your credits about hosting Essence music

473
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Speaker 1: festivals called Estance Festival. Now and walking on the stage,

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Speaker 1: you know it can be as a minute, seventy thousand

475
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Speaker 1: people in front of you, okay, well, and then knowing

476
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: where you started. You know, you knowing because when you

477
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: when you start making these transition, telling people, you're telling jokes.

478
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Speaker 1: They wait, girl, don't you have to a degree in engineering?

479
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Speaker 1: The people are doubt. You know, your family members of

480
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Speaker 1: question you. We are you gonna get paid? How are

481
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Speaker 1: you gonna get paid? Well? Where's the regular check at? Now?

482
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Speaker 1: You you're leaving something good here? You sure you sure?

483
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Speaker 1: You sure? So in that transition, you have to start

484
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Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with people who think like you and have

485
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Speaker 1: your same passion, Otherwise you won't make it through the

486
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Speaker 1: whole process and to go and they go from that

487
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Speaker 1: to being on the stage walking out there. Talk talk

488
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Speaker 1: about first of all getting the opportunity, to getting the

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Speaker 1: call to do that, and then walking out on stage

490
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Speaker 1: the first time at Essence Festival. Well, the thing is

491
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Speaker 1: what people have to realize is number one, a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, everybody's not gonna be happy for you. A

493
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Speaker 1: lot of that doubt that they that they that they sincerely,

494
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Speaker 1: they're they're trying to act like they're sincere and they're

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Speaker 1: worrying and caring out you is their own fear is

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Speaker 1: that they don't believe that you can do what you

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Speaker 1: say you're out to do. Um So I tell people

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Speaker 1: that you have to believe in yourself with nobody else believes,

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Speaker 1: and you believe in yourself. You know. I love you

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Speaker 1: because I love you because of who you represent. I

501
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Speaker 1: love you because of the authenticity of what you do

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Speaker 1: on television, and you stay true to who you are.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. Okay, please and thank you for calling my show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Rashan, take care, Okay, happy holiday, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, bye bye. We'll be right back with more

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Speaker 1: from Rashan McDonald The Money Making Conversations. Don't touch that down, Hi,

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Speaker 1: is one of the most popular Christian hip hop artists

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Speaker 1: in the rap industry. He has won five Grammy Awards,

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Speaker 1: including one win for the Best Gospel Album which is Awesome,

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Speaker 1: fifteen Double warves, and one Billboard Music Award. Here's a

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Speaker 1: in the rap game. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: The Craiz. What's going on? What's going on? Okay? First

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Speaker 1: of all, the Craig Houston, Texas. That's where you're born,

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Speaker 1: young man. Okay, cool, That's where I'm from. Absolutely, That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm from Fifth War, Texas. Brother, just gonna lockdowns

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Speaker 1: of information about each other. Get our gps together here, Okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: I was sir, yes, sir, right there, College Worth right

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Speaker 1: off fifty nine. Brother, right there, Russell and Bain Street.

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Speaker 1: That's where I was born. Right there. Now he is man,

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Speaker 1: My folks from Live Oak off in third ward. There

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Speaker 1: you go, there you go. Come on, Now we're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get. So we're gonna being so into you

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Speaker 1: and I. We're gonna be friends for life after this interview.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the beauty of our relationship. Okay. I was

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00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: at the Super Super Bowl Gospel Celebration taping and I

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Speaker 1: was sitting on the front row. Uh, because when you're big,

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Speaker 1: that's where they put you on the front row and

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Speaker 1: set you on the front room. And so and so

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00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: this young man came out, you know, uh because I

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Speaker 1: believe the mands were hosting. David twond Man was hosting

555
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Speaker 1: that year, and they introduced this young man called look Crazy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know his name. All I knew is

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Speaker 1: he came out and he was rapping, and I was

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00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: turning next to the person. I was saying, who is

559
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Speaker 1: that dude? Because first of all, he looked good and

560
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Speaker 1: he see here's the thing about his gifts, Because see,

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Speaker 1: gospel is rooted in you know, the traditional look, you know, singing,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you you road gotta have that choir,

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Speaker 1: gotta had a conductor. Here. He was out there on

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Speaker 1: that stage by himself rapping and he I remember, I

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Speaker 1: remember something he did. He told her about to raise

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Speaker 1: their hands and everybody and this this this performance at

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Speaker 1: Lakewood as Joel Osteen's church. Now that's that's a former

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Speaker 1: home or the Houston Rockets. You know, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: people up in that june and all of them raised

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Speaker 1: their hands. I look around, who is this dude? And

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Speaker 1: then but better than that, he's what he was saying

572
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Speaker 1: said something to me. His beat says something to me.

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Speaker 1: And I became a fan of your talents from that day.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't even know that, young man. You didn't

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Speaker 1: even know that you affected a person like me, ra

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald based on your skill set. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: you from Houston at the time. All I know is

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Speaker 1: that when you still on that stage and then you

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Speaker 1: walked off that stage and walked down those aisles, you

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Speaker 1: walk right down my aisle. I went, I wonder who

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Speaker 1: managing him? Because brother, you got it. Man, tell us

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Speaker 1: about that journey a little just just just a little

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Speaker 1: bit of that journey. Because of the fact that when

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Speaker 1: I was watching California Dreams Dreaming, it said that it

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Speaker 1: seemed to say that you grew up in California. But

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Speaker 1: then by bio, your bio says that you were born

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Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Can you help me out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So my uh, you know, I got a military family,

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Speaker 1: so of course we spend a lot of time in

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Speaker 1: different places. I was, I was my family originates in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: So that's for most of them livem that's for you know,

592
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Speaker 1: my mother's firm. That's where I was. I started out at,

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Speaker 1: but were moved around. So I spent the time in

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Speaker 1: San Diego in California, and I spent the time at

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Speaker 1: Denver and in Dallas, right, So, but but Houston has

596
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Speaker 1: always been, you know, kind of the origin the room.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that wrong? And there's nothing wrong with having Houston

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Speaker 1: as your origin, my friend, Yeah, what was washed that

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Speaker 1: Reach Records your record copy Reach Records is actually a

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Speaker 1: stat just um right outside of Dallas and and then

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Speaker 1: Texas and uh, basically what it happened was a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine and I, you know, we were at the

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Speaker 1: University of North Texas UM and and that's kind of

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Speaker 1: where I had a spiritual transformation and just kind of realized, man,

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Speaker 1: I may need to use my gifts for you know,

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Speaker 1: bigger purpose and um, and so from there we began

607
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Speaker 1: to start putting out the music independently and uh, and

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Speaker 1: it you know, Texas is almost like its own country.

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Speaker 1: So just touring the state of Texas and and and

610
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Speaker 1: traveling through our Texas had had so many people supporting

611
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: the music and it just kind of spilled over from

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Speaker 1: there and and into the to the rest of the world,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, year after year, Uh, things just grew.

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Speaker 1: You know, we started off independently. I remember taking my

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Speaker 1: CD into Stories and selling them on consignment. And you

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Speaker 1: don't know what consignment is, just when you convinced the

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Speaker 1: story they need to buy some of your music. And

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Speaker 1: I was sending my friends in the store to go

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Speaker 1: buy the music that they bought, and they would buy

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Speaker 1: some more from me. And so uh only have the

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Speaker 1: trunk of my car. And we did that for years

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Speaker 1: until things just kind of group beyond having to do

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Speaker 1: it that way. Well know, look crazy, It's really a

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Speaker 1: blessing to have this conversation with you because the fact

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Speaker 1: that you affected me and it's such a positive way.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I really love about gospel music and

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Speaker 1: in your case, hip hop music and rap because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that I'm old school. You know, I tupas

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Speaker 1: my man. Okay, you know, I grew up with at

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Speaker 1: the comedy club in Houston, hip Hop Comedy, Stop Back,

631
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Speaker 1: and so my whole, my whole flavor is tied to

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Even though I'm an R and B guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm an old Jay's guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Gay, I'm all that. And so when I so

635
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Speaker 1: when I see you, I see I see a very

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Speaker 1: gifted young man that that really is kind of like

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Speaker 1: touching a person that that's in my age group, but

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Speaker 1: also younger people too. Tell me to talk to us

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Speaker 1: about the responsibility of what you're delivering with your music. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I um, you know, I spent a lot

641
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Speaker 1: of time with my grandmother, who's basically like the spiritual

642
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: matriarch of the family, and so there's a little bit

643
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: of an old soul and me as well that that

644
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: helps me to connect to people, you know, outside of

645
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: my you know, typical age range or or or you know, demographic.

646
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, you know, I was

647
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: raised in the streets and I ran ran the streets

648
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: as a as a kid, and so I was influenced

649
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: by a lot of that type stuff. And so for me,

650
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I think about how do I take the wisdom that

651
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: folks like my grandmother had instilled in me and uh

652
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: and how to apply it to folks who grow up

653
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: like me who you know, we're looking for godance and

654
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: looking for you know, different um models because I didn't

655
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: grow up having models in rowd models. By the time

656
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: I was a grown man, you know, mart Luther King

657
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: was gone and so you know, all we had was

658
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: a lot of confused individuals who were doing the best

659
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: that they could, but you know, they didn't know which

660
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: way was up. So for me, the responsibility is to

661
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: use my music and my gift as a tool to

662
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: a to help people see their guy given potential and

663
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: to understand that you know that they were created for

664
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: a bigger purpose than what they may now. You really

665
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: are are uniquely uh crafted individual and I and more

666
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: so that I when it comes to entrepreneurship, because we're

667
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk about their your involvement is in there and

668
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: some of the projects in Atlanta, I call you a

669
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: social entrepreneur because of the fact that you go in

670
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: and you're trying to change the community. You're trying to

671
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: keep the community intact, but you're also trying to bring

672
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: business and trying to upgrade because you know, once you

673
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: increase the taxes, then gets to what. Schools get better,

674
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: policing gets better, the community gets better. And that's what

675
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: social entrepreneurs do. Tell us about the English Avenue project

676
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: that you involved with in Atlanta, Yeah, so he was

677
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Avenue is uh historically being uh, you know, over the

678
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: last decade or so, it's been a very tough area.

679
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, no as the heroine capital of the Southeast

680
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: and um, a lot of traffickings, a lot of you know,

681
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: just uh tough activity going on over there. Hadn't been

682
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: a school there, uh in years since a matter of fact,

683
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety six. So there's more grocery stores. I

684
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: mean there's not even there's there's no grocery stores. You know,

685
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: it's just there's it's a food desert, it's a school desert,

686
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: and UM, it's very unfortunate situation. And so a good

687
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Benjamin Wills, had a vision to uh

688
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: to see some change in that community, and you know,

689
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: I came alongside Benjamin Wills and um and we worked

690
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: hard to put a school in that community, and so

691
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Peace Preparatory Academy is in this fourth year now, um,

692
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: adding in grade every year. So it's the first school

693
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: has been in the neighborhood uh since ninety six. I

694
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: also took it upon myself to uh to you know,

695
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: uh take ownership over some of the properties down there,

696
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: because it's you know, as a black man, I wanted

697
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that the community was owned by somebody

698
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: who cares about the community. And so instead of just

699
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: putting up, you know, random things that are not helpful

700
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: for the community and just trying to profit off of them,

701
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking through, how can we do something that is

702
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: profitable uh as a business, but then also uh you know, sustainable,

703
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: but it also helps the community. So things like that

704
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: are you know, um, places that can house folks and

705
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: they can pay rent at a lower at a lower price,

706
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: but they can also work in the storefront and so

707
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: you just get different um circumstances and different things along

708
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: those lines. So you know, there's, um, there's there's stores

709
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: storefronts that provide healthier options for people, but that provide

710
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: them at at a at a cost that they can afford.

711
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: You hire people from within the community, and that that

712
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: becomes a part of the process of getting English as umar.

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00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: That's what the Hoodie Awards was all about, when I

714
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: would it for sixties straight years about and that's that's

715
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: there's two stars of the community. There's the stars are

716
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: built within the community. We're gonna bring them outside that

717
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: they're they're gifted people within the community. We just got

718
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: to shine a stronger light on it. I'll be remiss

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: if I don't talk about it. Your music as we

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: close out is California Dreaming. Is that's your new yest

721
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: single video out? A new single out? Or or it's

722
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: one that's come out after that? No, yeah, that's the

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: latest one. We we we put that out as a

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00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: summer project, you know, just something for the summer, playing

725
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: playing ding ding ten speed bias, riding a little the

726
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: little banana bikes. Okay, now, all right, what you know

727
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: about dominoes? Don't look crazy? That's what I'm lying to you.

728
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Are you just are you just faking like you're playing dominoes?

729
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Or you really know how to play dominoes? Don't look

730
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: they don't want it with me? Okay, now I would

731
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: say so is the it's the real deal with my

732
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: brother because I'm I'm I'm on Thursday, I'm a post

733
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: college were on the dreaming on my social media, okay

734
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm I'm gonna posting them on so

735
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: your media. I'm gonna tell you this. I live in Atlanta.

736
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: I also have a home in Houston, so you have

737
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: two places you can you can you can knock me out. Okay,

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00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: you can knock me out. Mr Bones, don't want none

739
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: of me, Okay, don't want none of meat. I'm talking

740
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: to me, not you met because because you're a special talent,

741
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: You're special talent. Man. I want to thank you for

742
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: coming on my show La Craze and as you can see, man,

743
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to let you know that I am a fan.

744
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to do research in the brain. I wanted

745
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: to tell some of your story. And it's not enough

746
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: enough time to tell you how great and it changes

747
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: you're making in the community. Just do me a favorite though, change,

748
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: stay strong and keep being you. Okay, We'll be right

749
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: back with more from Marsan McDonald The Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Don't touch that dial. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the

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00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: host of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself who

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00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: calls rushan shell. Please walk on the Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: La La Anthony. We met you know used always can

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Speaker 1: you give? I always talk to you about everything, everything

755
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: and looking at you and Steve Harvey. You know that

756
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: motivated me too because I would see all the amazing

757
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: things you guys are doing. It not just being on

758
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: the radio at that time, and even now, you know

759
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: people want to put people in boxes. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. The incredible Nick Cannon. You truly one

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Speaker 1: of them our mentors and one of the people that

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Speaker 1: showed me that you can be multi fascinating. You know

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Speaker 1: for a fact, now that you're about the Captain audience,

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Speaker 1: it's going to have a spending power for at least

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Speaker 1: another twenty years, three years. Like my happiness and money

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Speaker 1: Queen Sugar series on the Oprah win For Network. She

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Speaker 1: has also recognized playwright and CEO of the Inner Fitness

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Speaker 1: product Jack. She is on the show today discussed her

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Speaker 1: new book Hard came out November nineteen. Uh, The Little

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Speaker 1: Book of Big Lives, A Journey into into Inner Fitness. Please,

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00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation, Tina Lifford. Hi, son, it's

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00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: so nice to be here. First time we talked on

776
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: the phone and you was coming through Atlanta in the

777
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: event here. I was not able to make it because

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00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: I travel a lot and I try to get back

779
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: in town and sometimes I'm kidding my life. But the

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00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: beauty of it. I'm watching you now, I'm joined the

781
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: relationship I'm creating with you because I feel your relationship

782
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: driven person and reading your book, The Little Book of

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00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Big Lives, A Journey into Inner Fitness. Okay, let's let's

784
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: start right there. Okay, UM, what is the Inner Fitness Project?

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00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: So first, let me define interfitness. Inter Fitness is literally

786
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: being fit on the inside, absolutely developing the mental, emotional,

787
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: and spiritual skills and practices that can help us reduce stress,

788
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: be strong on the inside, feel resilient, and more than anything,

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: to begin to thrive instead of just merely survive in

790
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: our lives. You know. Uh, my aim, my personal aim

791
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: is to be fully alive when I die, you know. Um.

792
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: And so the Inner Fitness Project recognized that you know,

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00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: there's all this emphasis on physical fitness and literally no

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00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: emphasis on inner fitness, and we really have to address

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00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: the fact that we have there is a self inside

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00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: of us, that self has needs, and we must become

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00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: as familiar and practice in dealing with that self as

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00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: we are the physical body. Because so when you say

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Speaker 1: that is can I say right when I say, therapy

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00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: is something especially within the in the community of color,

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: therapy is something like a word that's like, oh, you

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00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: have something really wrong with you, and and and so

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00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. Being able to to heal,

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00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: to be able to grow, to develop the internal, the

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00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: mental structure, the emotional structure will guide you through your

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00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: daily life, which sometimes is way more important than your

807
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: your outside, which is your physical being. Absolutely well, your

808
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: physical being can't help you resolve those hurts, dramas, traumas,

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00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: upsets and disappointments that you carry. And we all have

810
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: unresolved hurts, drama's, traumas, upsets and disappointments. It's not our fault.

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Speaker 1: It's by nature of our nervous system. When we have

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00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: experiences and they are not properly processed, those experiences hang

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00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: on inside as an emotional reaction. Cool. Now, before we

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00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: get in detail about the book, which I really enjoyed.

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00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Um there because you're sharing I guess, the emotional slices

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00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: of your life, some of them very personal and something.

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00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: So when you start writing a book like that, how

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Speaker 1: do you make the decision that I can I'm gonna

819
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: be honest here. You know, we're talking about your dad's

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00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: relationship with your mom, with your mom, what is abusive

821
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: at times? And talk about the story when you know

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00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: when your dad got out of the car and you

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00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: got locked the door and your mom drove home and

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00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: your dad had to walk in later, you know, and

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00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: that that that those type of personal experience you talk

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Speaker 1: about when you when you know when you the little

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Speaker 1: boy Jeffrey and your best friend, you know, he told

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Speaker 1: you he loved you and you was a cloud nine

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: and realized that was a joke, but that was those

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Speaker 1: Those are those what you're saying is like, these are

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00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: different moments and there are more moments. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to reveal the entire book because I want you to

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00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: buy the book, but those are these are some of

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00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: the key moments that you're talking about in your past.

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00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: You're inner fitness that you have to cre or admit

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00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: has happened in your journey in order for you to

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00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: move forward. That's exactly right. Talk to us about that. Okay,

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00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: So we we all have experiences, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: one experience can't be compared to the other if it

840
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: left you feeling less than, not good enough or disconnected

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00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: from yourself in any way. It is an experience that

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00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: you can rewire your relationship. Yes, and until we rewire

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: our relationship to those experiences, those experiences live inside and

844
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: they actually dictate our behavior. You know, if in fact

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00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: you had uh, you know, like Jeffrey in the book.

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00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: You know, if in fact your first experience with love

847
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: was as disappointing and um shameful as mine, then you

848
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: can make decisions about love that aren't going to be

849
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: supportive of what you really really want because you should

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Speaker 1: telling was a lie, you just went, oh yeah, but

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Speaker 1: isn't that that the natural response is to is to

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Speaker 1: shield yourself from pain. Well, that that maybe the reaction

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Speaker 1: that's the surviving self reaction. But the I talked about

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Speaker 1: the three selves in the book, the surviving self, the

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Speaker 1: thriving self in the infinite self, and the surviving self.

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Speaker 1: It's its job is to help us feel safe, but

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes is helping us feel safe in ways that

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Speaker 1: no longer actually support our life. You know, if, in fact,

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Speaker 1: I made a decision as a you know, seven year

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Speaker 1: old or or seventeen year old, and now I'm still

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Speaker 1: living by that decision and I'm not free enough to

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Speaker 1: to see that I've grown beyond that hurt, then I'm

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Speaker 1: being held hostage by the past, right, And we don't

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Speaker 1: want to be held hostage, and we don't have to

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Speaker 1: be held hostage. I'm going to tell you that everyone

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Speaker 1: listening has some secret, you know, some fear something that

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Speaker 1: they feel that if if other people knew it, would

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Speaker 1: you know, in somehow um uh deflate their reputation, it

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Speaker 1: would uh make them seem less then, And so you

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Speaker 1: don't reveal that, but you carry it around as a

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Speaker 1: secret and you hope that people don't come anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to uh that area of your life. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with your book, because you revealed secrets.

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Speaker 1: You revealed moments in your life that thought were very important.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that when I look

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Speaker 1: back in my life, I can I loved your book

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that I can clearly remember moments

881
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Speaker 1: in my life. I can remember in the fifth grade

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Speaker 1: with my my teacher stopped me from running around the school.

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Speaker 1: So you can do better than this. Stop, You're not

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Speaker 1: like every other student here stopped. I can remember when

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Speaker 1: the little boy patted me down and took my money

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Speaker 1: every day, every day, you know, and I couldn't. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how could I get past this kid?

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Speaker 1: And I know that had to reflect on me. So

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Speaker 1: a reflection on me, and I can remember those those

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Speaker 1: moments like that. It's such an early age. And also

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Speaker 1: when I became up in middle school, I remember this

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Speaker 1: young lady. My teacher asked me to read, and because

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Speaker 1: I was a very good reader, and this this young

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Speaker 1: lady said, why is he reading all the time? I

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Speaker 1: caused you to um uh dim your light. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: caused you wanted to self conscious speaking yes, and and

899
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm a person who people deemed successful.

902
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Speaker 1: People come to me for advice all the time. I

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Speaker 1: motivate people. But then we have all these little layers

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905
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906
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Speaker 1: of your life. That's what I took from your book.

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Speaker 1: And I'm and I am recommending people by This book

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Speaker 1: able to get to their better life faster. I used

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921
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923
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Speaker 1: you can do. And that was my frustration is that,

926
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927
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928
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929
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Speaker 1: what did I need to do inside of myself so

931
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932
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933
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935
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938
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939
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941
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942
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943
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944
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