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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and we have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest, a guy that is very tough

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Speaker 1: to track down, but I'm happy to have in the

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Speaker 1: day one of the best corners in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: Dereck Stingly.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining me, brother here. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you yeah, Look, look, I I'm not gonna start

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Speaker 1: no controversy. Y'all playing some great defense right now. Y'all

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Speaker 1: playing some great defense. Uh, you had to pick last week. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna started off with that. The pick was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Why you stiff for him that man like that? I

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Speaker 1: mean I did. I thought it was just a normal

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Speaker 1: stiff for him. Apparently you know not, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know that we get stiffed through them all the time.

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Speaker 1: So right, you got to give him back a little

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Speaker 1: bit when when you can. That was that was a

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Speaker 1: great play, though, man, And what what what did you

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Speaker 1: read on that play? What did you see? Because I

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Speaker 1: mean that was incredible. A lot of your books are

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Speaker 1: really great, Joe. Your ones in the playoffs was great too.

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Speaker 1: I think your ball skills are our next level. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they said you had twenty seven of them things in

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Speaker 1: high school. I said that's just silly numbers man. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that on their play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm just looking at the vertical

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Speaker 3: and then I saw I saw the quarterback he was

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Speaker 3: looking at the that too, and then I mean I

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Speaker 3: just went to the ball, seen the ball.

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Speaker 4: Just get ball.

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Speaker 1: You you didn't, you didn't picked off the sema too

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Speaker 1: a lot. That's what I'm saying you. Maybe it might

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Speaker 1: have been your first game back from injury, like like

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. That might have been your

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Speaker 1: first or second book. They ran a scene a vertical

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Speaker 1: and you was on one. You came off of one

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Speaker 1: and book two? Do you prefer? And I know people

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Speaker 1: always argue this, you do a great job following the best,

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Speaker 1: best receiver and mirroring them. But when you in zone,

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Speaker 1: you get to play with vision and your football IQ

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Speaker 1: is so high that you can you have an incredible

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Speaker 1: feel for the zone, the space, the concepts you get

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Speaker 1: talked me through that well.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really doesn't matter, to be honest. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if I'm a man just being up there just playing

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Speaker 3: face or face, or if I'm his own just knowing

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Speaker 3: that that I'm communicating with like my teammate, my safeties

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Speaker 3: or nickels or whoever whoever is next to me, all

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Speaker 3: just going out there just whatever it is, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, just just get this job done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what makes this defense so good?

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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like y'all have a great, great

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Speaker 1: combination of incredible pass rush and a great secondary. Y'all

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Speaker 1: number one in the scoring defense. Y'all only allowed four

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Speaker 1: passing touchdowns this season, allowed fourteen point seven points per game.

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Speaker 1: And that's Look, that's giving you a chance to win

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Speaker 1: every week. Talk me through that. Y'all got a great

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Speaker 1: D line. Obviously they hunting up front, but in the

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Speaker 1: back end, y'all locked into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean you pretty much

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Speaker 3: said it all Like, you know, the front, the D line,

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Speaker 3: they they know how to work with each other, like

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Speaker 3: they know never somebody is caging and containing around and

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Speaker 3: you know, like they all working together. And then it's

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Speaker 3: the same on the back end. And then whenever we

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Speaker 3: all do that at the same time on every play,

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Speaker 3: at least we try to every play, and then it's

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Speaker 3: just a good result. So, I mean it started with

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Speaker 3: them when we say they're the engine of the defense.

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Speaker 2: So when you got to the league, Was it what

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Speaker 2: you thought it would be.

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Speaker 4: All in a sense of like business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I knew coming in that you know,

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Speaker 3: it's a job, like you're you're here doing the job.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's still fun, like it's still football

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Speaker 3: is football? Like that part didn't change either, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first coming into the league, obviously the speed

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Speaker 3: to that. But other than that, it's been pretty much

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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's one thing. Y'all got down and chat

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Speaker 1: at LSU. Man, you facing what you're gonna face. You

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Speaker 1: seeing what you're gonna see. Ain't much better. Ain't much

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Speaker 1: better than what you've been seeing. Yeah, talk me through that.

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Speaker 1: You were the number one recruit in your class coming in,

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Speaker 1: which is rare for a corner to be the number

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Speaker 2: Is it true?

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Speaker 1: They offered you in ninth grade? Yeah, and you played

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Speaker 1: on varsity in eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was possible.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I went to a small school,

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Speaker 3: so you know it was possible for us.

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Speaker 2: So did you did you did you get any did

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Speaker 2: you get any?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah in eighth grade?

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Speaker 1: Ye, Bro, that's like legendary stuff you tell as like

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Speaker 1: a folk tale, like you know, you tell your grandkids like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: when I was in eighth grade playing varsity.

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Speaker 3: About five eight and one, I don't even know, like

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I was small out there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, good, Yeah, you got a good feel. So

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Speaker 2: what what what helped you?

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Speaker 1: Was? It was it just you know, having a hav

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Speaker 2: Round you, you know, family members.

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Speaker 1: Obviously your pops uh played pro baseball and and uh

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Speaker 1: and and played some some arena football. Is it was

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Speaker 1: it just that that helped your mentality because obviously every

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Speaker 1: level it seems like you've dominated and been the most mature.

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Speaker 1: You came to the league. It didn't it didn't seem

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Speaker 1: like it surprised you. As soon as you got your reps,

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Speaker 1: you got in there, you you were picking stuff off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your first time in the playoffs you're picking stuff. Well,

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Speaker 1: not your first time in the playoffs. But last year

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Speaker 1: was one of the most dominant playoff runs for a dB.

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Speaker 1: I thought y'all had a really great chance. But tell

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Speaker 1: me what what really moded your mentality coming up?

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Speaker 4: I mean it was really you know, being around my pops.

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Speaker 3: He played and he he also coached in the Arena

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Speaker 3: Football League, and I mean it's just a little kid.

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Speaker 3: I would be doing DV drills with like the players

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Speaker 3: like against his DB's practice all and just I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean just being around him. Without him, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: sitting right here talking to you at all, which is

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Speaker 3: crazy about it, but you know, just he molded me

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Speaker 4: So I mean, you gotta keep it going.

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Speaker 1: No question, you're doing a great job keeping it going.

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Speaker 1: You got eleven interceptions already. You you in your class,

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Speaker 1: I would I would assume you got the most by

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Speaker 1: far and away. Not a lot of them getting books

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Speaker 1: right now, but you you're definitely hunting them. Uh, who's

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Speaker 1: been the like? Have you had your welcome to the

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Speaker 1: NFL moment? You know, sometimes guys have them. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. It happened in practice. I'm

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Speaker 3: going against Brandon Cooks, obviously, my rookie year. I'm covering

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Speaker 3: and he also got his hands on the ball and

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Speaker 3: he ripped it away. Now, that was like the first

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Speaker 4: Away from me in the air. And I was looking

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Speaker 3: Like Brandon Cooks, like you know, he cold, Like I

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Speaker 3: of the he's one of the great receivers to be

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Speaker 3: And I was just looking around like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: Yeah for show NFL now. But Cooks don't ever get

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Speaker 1: enough credit. You get you get in front of Cooks,

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Speaker 1: you be slouching if.

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Speaker 4: You want to cook your bits for real, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who you who?

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Speaker 1: I can't really talk to you about who the best

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Speaker 1: went against them in college and you probably see him

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Speaker 2: I mean, they still el he can't not say that.

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Speaker 1: But outside of Justin and and Jamar, who are you

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Speaker 1: feeling like, are some of the best receivers in the

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well outside yeah, outside of Justin Jefferson and Jamoar Chase

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Speaker 4: Oh, Mike Evans is up there.

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Speaker 1: Oh, people don't give Mike Kevis the credit. Is Mike

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Speaker 1: Evins handful?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who as Uh, Davantae Adams is always gonna be

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Speaker 4: All. I can't even think of people right now for uh.

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Speaker 1: Something you you probably played against tarrenk. You probably played

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Speaker 1: against Davante's split release stuff and how he moved his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, He's always up there. Uh would

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Speaker 2: A lot of people saying pooker right now. J Brown.

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Speaker 3: See that's the differ, you know, like people be ranking

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Speaker 3: and doing all that. Like everybody is great at something

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Like like everybody that you just said is

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Speaker 3: phenomenal at a specific thing and that's how they get

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Speaker 3: they touched down. So I don't know, It's it's hard

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Speaker 3: to rank people with any position.

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Speaker 1: Right right right, because it's it's just depend on any

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Speaker 1: given day. Like I give a lot of respect sometimes

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Speaker 1: to receivers people don't like Stevie Johnson was an issue

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Speaker 1: for me, and and we've talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: I had to figure that out, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: went against him once in Toronto and it was a

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Speaker 1: long day. We won by like thirty, but you know

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Speaker 1: one of them days where you you didn't have a

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Speaker 2: The team had a great day. Day wasn't great, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and then we he got signed by San Francisco

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Speaker 1: and I went against him again and that much different,

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Speaker 1: much different kind of day. I had two books on

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Speaker 1: the day. It was Thanksgiving. I was eating turkey on

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Speaker 1: the field after the game. Sometimes you get back, yeah,

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Speaker 1: living right, Uh, yes, sir, living living good. So who

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Speaker 1: did you look look up to outside of your pops

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Speaker 1: and you know as a as a dB as a

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Speaker 1: corner that you know you tried to emulate Chimp Bailey.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he was just all somebody that that I always see.

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Speaker 3: He would number twenty four. He got the interceptions, he

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Speaker 3: he was he was able to cover like press off

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Speaker 3: like you know, he did everything and he Yeah, since

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Speaker 3: I was the kid Champ Bailey being over.

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Speaker 1: No no question about it, y'all. L s U was

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Speaker 1: DBU and they've put put out some of the best.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have like a good relationship with like

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Speaker 1: Tyron and Pat p and those guys, I mean, two

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Speaker 1: of the best to play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Pat, he would come back and work

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Speaker 3: Matthew will come back and like talk to us before

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Speaker 4: Who else? I mean, it's uh.

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Speaker 1: Right right, talk about uh one of another good corner.

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Speaker 4: He you know, he doing what he's doing now.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's about towing somebody in our position,

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Speaker 3: I mean just kind of like what they always teach

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Speaker 4: Hopefully the rest wouldn't throw nothing.

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Speaker 4: And you don't really need to use your hands for.

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Speaker 4: The money, gotta get it, yep, they got to.

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Speaker 1: So do you like to step kick or do you

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I was total step kick. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: So I start doing that side shuffle stuff, and we

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Speaker 2: I'm tough to deal with.

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Speaker 1: But I I really see a lot of that in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes it you know, isn't good,

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Speaker 1: How much how much of what you do is is

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Speaker 3: Drop, I feel like I mean, of course, during the week,

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Speaker 4: Do a whole bunch of that. But then you get

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just gotta know when you just got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way. How is Demiko?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I know Demiko, we were in San

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Speaker 2: But how was he as a head coach? I've never

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, he's a great coach. He

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Speaker 3: you know, he's always smiling. He's gonna be smiling anytime

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Speaker 3: You know, he played defense or he played linebacker, so

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Speaker 2: Right right, speaking of that, how long how long you

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Speaker 4: I'll try to play it on about fifty.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that boy come from baton ruge about to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't make this more conversational. Allow you

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Speaker 3: Uh, I mean, I mean, so halftime you talked about

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Speaker 4: At halftime, what you was thinking? Like, like what you

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Speaker 1: So that that was that's a great question. So he

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Speaker 2: They're about to run.

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Speaker 1: And this boy was breaking my rules, like he's supposed to.

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Speaker 1: He'll see me sitting inside the boy stutter stutter, stutter,

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Speaker 4: You know? What I mean.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm like, okay, now he feeling me for go route.

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Speaker 1: He give me inside release, and I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 1: My feet were good, my eyes were good, my tech

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Speaker 2: I wasn't letting.

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Speaker 1: What I would say is it humbled me enough to

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Speaker 1: because you know, you start feeling yourself, you get sloppy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was.

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Speaker 2: I was grateful.

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Speaker 1: So at halftime, I really just was telling myself, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's really just about patience what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's about patience and trust. And you know

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Speaker 1: you grow so much when you have a great game. No,

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Speaker 1: And so the great ones like like you you can

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Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about to win this game just

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Speaker 1: answer when the when the when the ball finally come

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Speaker 1: your way again, and be able to change the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, won't play at a time.

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Speaker 2: One play at the.

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Speaker 4: Time, is it?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Huh? You got anything else? That's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, you crazy, you crazy, bro.

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Speaker 1: I been a big fan of your game, bro, one

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Speaker 1: of the best. You wanted the best doing it in college,

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Speaker 1: you wanted the best doing it now you obviously it

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Speaker 1: was one of the best doing it in high school.

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Speaker 1: Big fan of your game. And if you ever need

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Speaker 1: anything from me, don't hesitate to reach out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, appreciate you, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: Call love